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What Is Happening In the NFL? (PST Episode 635) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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  Speaker 1: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, twelve
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  Speaker 1: years strong. We got a great show coming to you
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  Speaker 1: this week, our regular show where I've got one of
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  Speaker 1: my co hosts with us. We've got Len Hunsicker here, Buddy.
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  Speaker 1: How are you man?
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you doing good. Hopefully everybody's having a
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  Speaker 2: good week out there.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, the world of Philly sports is so very interesting
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  Speaker 1: at this particular point in time, as we are closing
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  Speaker 1: out September looking to October, we got a great agenda
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  Speaker 1: coming your way this week as we dive into the
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  Speaker 1: world of Philly sports. First, we're gonna get into the Phillies,
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  Speaker 1: specifically this outfield rotation that has been working as we're
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to red October and what's going to be
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  Speaker 1: coming to this Phillies team during the postseason. We're then
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  Speaker 1: going to get into some Philadelphia Union talk. Only a
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  Speaker 1: few games left of the season and it's been quite
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  Speaker 1: a season for the Philadelphia Union. Certainly going to be
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  Speaker 1: getting into some Flyers talk because the preseason has started.
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  Speaker 1: Hockey in the NHL right around the corner that season starting,
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  Speaker 1: can't wait, and of course we're going to get into
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. We're gonna talk about Saquon Barkley because
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  Speaker 1: he is certainly not having the type of season a
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  Speaker 1: lot of us thought that he was going to have.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean for the offense? And then what
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  Speaker 1: we are thrown down on the table this week, our
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  Speaker 1: good friend Mark Schofield from SB Nation. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: join us to get into some NFL, NFC East and
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  Speaker 1: just you know, some general storylines that's going on in
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  Speaker 1: professional football right now. That is going to be a great,
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  Speaker 1: great discussion with Mark. So then, without any further ado,
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  Speaker 1: why don't we just get into this show. I know
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  Speaker 1: we usually like to get some band turned stuff going on,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't want you to fall asleep right in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the show because you've been working your
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  Speaker 1: tail off, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I work four days a week, twelve hour days,
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  Speaker 2: and the days that I work, I usually maybe get
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  Speaker 2: three or four hours of sleep per night. So I
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  Speaker 2: just got done with my work week and I've, as
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  Speaker 2: I told Jeff in a text message, maybe if I'm lucky,
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  Speaker 2: I've had twelve hours sleep over the past four nights combined. God,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm pretty beat.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody needs Betty Betty time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a freaking zombie at this point.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well let's get into the show here, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because Phillies are heading to the postseason, as we know,
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  Speaker 1: like I mentioned Red October right around the corner here, Len.
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  Speaker 1: But most interestingly enough about this team, and really this
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  Speaker 1: goes again to like what people were talking about with
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  Speaker 1: Rob Thompson over the past season, maybe two seasons. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: the guy stinks. I cannot stand it when I hear
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  Speaker 1: that or see it on social media. It's been a
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  Speaker 1: little over a month since Rob Rob Thompson geez sorry,
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  Speaker 1: officially declared that the Phillies were gonna use an outfield rotation.
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  Speaker 1: He declared that on August twentieth, And what that actually
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  Speaker 1: meant was that the lines of the team were no
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  Speaker 1: longer you know, going to be starting. They weren't gonna
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  Speaker 1: start in at Castianos every day. Instead, the plan going
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  Speaker 1: forward just gonna sit Ham, allow Brandon marsh Max Kepler
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  Speaker 1: to get some playing time without taking Harrison Bader out
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  Speaker 1: of the lineup. Essentially you know him be the everyday
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  Speaker 1: center fielder Westden Wilson. He'd also get the occasional start
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  Speaker 1: against the tough left handed pitcher or so. Since that time, Len,
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  Speaker 1: the Phillies have had the best record in the National League,
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  Speaker 1: fourth best overall at nineteen and almost twenty and eleven.
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  Speaker 1: I think at this point as we are recording this,
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  Speaker 1: because they are beating the Marlins as we're recording this
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night, and I mean much of the outfield's resurgence
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  Speaker 1: it has to go to Harrison Bader for sure, but
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  Speaker 1: Brandon marsh has also seen an uptick in his production
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  Speaker 1: since the rotation became official. Rob Thompson knew what he
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  Speaker 1: was doing here. It was a great decision and it's
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  Speaker 1: been paying off here. I love what we're seeing from
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  Speaker 1: this team in the outfield has consistently been a question
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  Speaker 1: mark in so many different areas, and things just seem
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  Speaker 1: like they've been coming together here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everything is working right now, and you
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  Speaker 2: know that's kind of a fragile thing. It's not always sustainable,
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  Speaker 2: but for right now, I mean, you can not like
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  Speaker 2: Rob Thompson all you want, but what he's doing right
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  Speaker 2: now is one hundred percent working a lot. I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the for that should go to Harrison Bader,
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  Speaker 2: who I remember last time I was on the show
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  Speaker 2: just mentioning that he's been so much better than I
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  Speaker 2: ever thought he would be. And he's a guy now, like,
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  Speaker 2: how do you not put him in center field every night?
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  Speaker 2: And that's caused a bit of a shake up with
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  Speaker 2: everybody else because now you don't really worry about Marsh
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  Speaker 2: playing and center anymore, you know, so you can kind
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  Speaker 2: of move stuff around and mix and match a little
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  Speaker 2: bit better. So yeah, and I don't know some of
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  Speaker 2: those guys like I don't know Marsh, you know, kepler
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  Speaker 2: guys like that. You're you kind of thought like, is
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  Speaker 2: this a guy you really want to see getting five
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty at bats a year, maybe in a
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  Speaker 2: bigger sample size, to get exposed a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: So this is kind of preventing that from happening. You
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  Speaker 2: can work matchups a little bit righty versus lefty when
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  Speaker 2: you have guys that you're confident in spreading stuff out
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  Speaker 2: in smaller doses with them. Yeah, So I think it works,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, and yeah, you're gonna have some bumps
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  Speaker 2: in the road. Obviously, Nick Castianos has not been happy
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  Speaker 2: about his playing time, which I don't think that from
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  Speaker 2: the clips I've heard. I didn't think anything he said
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  Speaker 2: was that necessarily objectionable? Yeah, and look, no offense. But
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  Speaker 2: I want a guy that wants to be out there.
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  Speaker 2: I want a guy that you know that these guys
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  Speaker 2: are professional athletes, they they want to be out there.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it was more with the reporter that
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  Speaker 2: was just like a few days because he wouldn't let
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  Speaker 2: it go.
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  Speaker 1: He just kept pounding and pounded. It's like, because then.
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  Speaker 2: That reporter had an agenda and had a story he
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  Speaker 2: was damn sure going to try to get and you know,
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  Speaker 2: and it eventually happened. You know, there's only so many
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  Speaker 2: ways you can answer the same question, and.
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  Speaker 1: I have, Yeah, I know what reporters have to do
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  Speaker 1: at times, what they need to do. But after after
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  Speaker 1: a couple questions, you're like, okay, maybe I should stop,
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  Speaker 1: And he just wasn't. It was relentless, but really quickly
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  Speaker 1: and before we, you know, move on from this particular
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  Speaker 1: story here. I just want to mention Max Kepler really
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  Speaker 1: quick because he looked to be a failed signing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just destined to be dfa'd once the deadline came to
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  Speaker 1: pass and stuff. But because look his splits, his splits
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  Speaker 1: before August two oh three, two ninety seven, three fifty seven, right,
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  Speaker 1: the first four months of the season just not going well.
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  Speaker 1: He has been hitting two point fifty seven with a
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  Speaker 1: seven ninety seven ops since August first. I mean, it's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: What's happened with him? I just I just have to
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  Speaker 1: say it, Rob Thomas, Rob Thompson. Wh Why do I
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  Speaker 1: keep messing up his last name? What the hell is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Have you been listening to a lot of Matchbox twenty?
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  Speaker 2: Match Box? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I know what the hell's going on with me? Anyway?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the skipper you know he did? There
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  Speaker 1: you go, Yeah, there you go. In all honesty, Rob,
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  Speaker 1: he needs to be commended for this, the type of
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  Speaker 1: manager that he is, and the people who have crapped
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  Speaker 1: on him continuously need to shut the hell up. This
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  Speaker 1: has been a great decision. Even somebody like Max Kepler's
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  Speaker 1: been able to benefit from this. I think it needs
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 2: Said, and you know, maybe it's something that you know,
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  Speaker 2: can carry into the playoffs a little bit in terms
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  Speaker 2: from in terms of a management style. Yeah, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. The playoffs just feel like it's a
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  Speaker 2: shorter leash and you're you're going with the hot hand
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  Speaker 2: and you're you're you're really playing matchups and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 2: and it seems like they've been doing more of match
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  Speaker 2: up baseball, you know, and they've had to due to
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  Speaker 2: injuries with Boem going down, Trey Turner going down. I
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  Speaker 2: know they've been resting you know, Harper recently, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: he they've already kind of been doing that, So maybe
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  Speaker 2: it won't really be a you know, a you know,
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  Speaker 2: new thing for Thompson have to do once they actually
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  Speaker 2: get into the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, we'd love to hear what you think about
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  Speaker 1: this particular field rotation and just what's happening with this
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies team. Reach out to Philadelphia Sports Table at
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  Speaker 1: on the show and respond to it. In fact, I'm
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  Speaker 1: remembering now that we had a couple of emails come
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  Speaker 1: forgot to put them on our agenda. Oh sorry, folks,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. It's been a little busy it's
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  Speaker 1: we got to talk about the Philadelphia Union two here, Lenn,
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  Speaker 1: because this is a team as we are recording this here,
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  Speaker 1: they're doing pretty well and they have been doing pretty
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  Speaker 1: well for most of the season. They pulled out a
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  Speaker 1: win against the New England Revolution this past weekend after
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  Speaker 1: after tough outings against Nashville Vancouver. Those two matchups, you'll
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  Speaker 1: watch them and you think to yourself, oh boy, they
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  Speaker 1: just lose in steam. But they pulled out a one
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  Speaker 1: to nothing victory over New England this past weekend. So
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to give our thoughts here as we're almost
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  Speaker 1: at the end of this season. And look, they are
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the supporters Shield by three points here,
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  Speaker 1: so it's it has been a fun season. And they
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  Speaker 1: faced DC United this coming Saturday, seven thirty pm start.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the matchup against New England performance was a
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  Speaker 1: bit a bit uneven, but I think the Union showed
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  Speaker 1: us that they can really step up when it matters,
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  Speaker 1: and they've done it a number of times so far
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  Speaker 1: this year, and they certainly need to clean some things
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  Speaker 1: up offensively again. Three more games to do it, Lend,
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  Speaker 1: but the team is looking pretty good here at this point,
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  Speaker 1: you know, towards this latter part of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the matchup against New England, it's I think it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of rare that maybe you have the mindset of well,
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  Speaker 2: the results more important in the performance, because you always
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  Speaker 2: want your team to be performing well and firing on
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  Speaker 2: all cylinders, because if you're doing that, winning should take
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  Speaker 2: care of itself. In this case, I just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: see them get the win against New England because they
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  Speaker 2: were in a bit of a tail spin. They went
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  Speaker 2: out to Vancouver and absolutely got pantsed. I get why
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  Speaker 2: they were resting a lot of people because they had
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  Speaker 2: the US Open Cup match up a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: later versus Nashville, which they went and lost. Anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: you've got two big losses back to back, so just
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  Speaker 2: to be able to pull out of that tail spin,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you want them to look good all
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  Speaker 2: the time, but at that point, it's just get a win,
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  Speaker 2: Just pull up out of this funk that you're in.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what they did.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, they were pretty solid defensively against New England,
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  Speaker 1: which was great to see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shutout, so it's you know, you can't
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  Speaker 2: ask for much more than that. But yeah, so, I
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  Speaker 2: mean that was a it was a win that they
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  Speaker 2: kind of had to have just to kind of get
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  Speaker 2: back on the right side of things. And as you said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they have a matchup against DC United coming up here
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday, and then two more games after that. They
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  Speaker 2: have one at home against NYCFC and then they finished
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  Speaker 2: the season in Charlotte. So yeah, they three more games
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  Speaker 2: left in the regular season games by the way, Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: these are opponents that that they should kind of I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Charlotte's a decent team this year. They're they're fourth in
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  Speaker 2: the East. NYCFC is fifth in the East. So these
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  Speaker 2: aren't pushovers by any stretch. But listen, they're phillies at
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  Speaker 2: the top of the standing. So they should be taking
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: care of business against these teams. If you can win
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  Speaker 2: two out of three of those, I think you're in
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  Speaker 2: good shape. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, we are going to be taking a
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break and when we come back,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get some Flyers talk and some Eagles talk.
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  Speaker 1: Stick with us, all right, We are back and the
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  Speaker 1: Flyer season is like right around the corner here, Lynn,
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into some of the preseason action
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  Speaker 1: that we have seen thus far, be remissed if we
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  Speaker 1: didn't mention that Flyer's legend Bernie parent passes away at
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  Speaker 1: the age of eighty this past week here. As many
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  Speaker 1: of us known know our Flyers history, Bernie Parent was
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  Speaker 1: He had two separate stints with the Flyers back in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven to nineteen sixty eight, but it was
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  Speaker 1: his second run with the team that really would be
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  Speaker 1: remembered most. The nineteen seventy three seventy four season a
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  Speaker 1: very strong case to be remembered as one of the
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  Speaker 1: best goaltending seasons of all time. In seventy three games,
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  Speaker 1: Bernie parent shouldered that twenty eighth highest minutes workload in
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  Speaker 1: recorded NHL history, posted a league high nine thirty two
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  Speaker 1: save percentage with twelve shutouts. So just an incredible season
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  Speaker 1: he had and a legend, you know, and then we're
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  Speaker 1: getting to that age where the legends are going away.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of sad to see, but boy, he left
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  Speaker 1: his mark on this team. And it'd be nice if
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  Speaker 1: we got a goalie like him at some point down
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  Speaker 1: the road for this flying current flys.
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  Speaker 2: I mean a little bit to ask there, I mean, yeah, prompt.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he he he lived to be eighty, so
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's, you know, a full life. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: when he was at his best, Uh, those those two
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  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup years in particular seventy three seventy four or
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  Speaker 2: seventy four seventy five, just the numbers are or otherworldly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's laughable. Yeah, I mean how good these
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  Speaker 2: numbers are leading the league in seventy three seventy four,
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  Speaker 2: particularly say, percentage goals against average shots, you know, taking saves,
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  Speaker 2: basically any metric you wanted that year, he led the
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  Speaker 2: league in it. And something that you know, just just
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  Speaker 2: from reading you know various things. You know, something that
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  Speaker 2: you kind of forget is the fact that you know
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  Speaker 2: he played for the most infamous style wise team of
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  Speaker 2: all time. Have you know, a punishing team, a team
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  Speaker 2: that had a lot of guys spend a lot of
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  Speaker 2: time in the penal box. So you when you think
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  Speaker 2: about his stats, also think about the fact that how
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  Speaker 2: much of that time was spent probably shorthanded on the
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  Speaker 2: penalty kill because of all those penalties that those Broad
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  Speaker 2: Street Bully teams took on. It takes those numbers and
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  Speaker 2: puts them in a different context and and makes them
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  Speaker 2: even greater. I mean so, and Bobby Clark said it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when when he had his his uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: comments on the on the passing of Bernie Prompt. We
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  Speaker 2: he's the one guy on that team that if he's
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  Speaker 2: not there, there's no way we win. And he's right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's hard because I mean those
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  Speaker 2: those two years stand out. I mean, he was great otherwise,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: but those two years particularly stand out. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know, when you think of, okay, who is the
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: greatest flyer of all time? I think most people would
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  Speaker 2: probably say Bobby Clark. But if you wanted to make
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  Speaker 2: a case for Bernie Prompt as the greatest flyer of
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  Speaker 2: all time, I I could not come await saying, oh
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  Speaker 2: no way, Ye, you know, he's he's very very very
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  Speaker 2: much should be in that conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So I wish I wish we could bring him back
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  Speaker 1: and just put him in front of the net. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, as a young man, that would.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the current situation is a little scared.
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  Speaker 1: It does it does it does things. So let's get
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  Speaker 1: into this Flyers preseason here. I mean, just you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: there have been a couple of games thus far. They
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: ended up they ended up beating the Islanders and their
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  Speaker 1: preseason opener, and and in that particular game, Len I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: thought it was really great to see matt Vey, Mitchkoff
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  Speaker 1: and the Trevor Zegris line. I mean, they were really
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  Speaker 1: they were really humming along and it was really great
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  Speaker 1: to see, I'll be honest with you too, And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's by any stretch going to be on
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  Speaker 1: the opening night roster, but Jack Nesbit man he was.
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  Speaker 1: He consistently was standing out. Aside from his sometimes ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: looking skating style, he just always seemed to be in
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  Speaker 1: the right place, disrupting plays, just pouncing on those loose pucks.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: It was really nice to see Jack Nesbitt out there
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: really making a contribution in the very first game of
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the season. I mean that that's one of the things
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I really took away from the very first Flyers preseason game.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know what, what were you thinking right out
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: of the gate? Anybody in particular really stand out to you?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, Nesbit is kind of maybe the headliner. I
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: didn't actually get to see the game, but the fact that,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: you know, this is a guy that was taking twelfth overall,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: higher than pretty much any mock had drafted, Yeah, higher
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: than anybody thought. You know, when when the Flyers you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: trade up to get that pick, Oh, who's it going
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to be. The fact that it was Nesbit was like
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: pretty surprising to me just because he wasn't you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I knew they liked him, but I didn't know that
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: they liked him that high, So he's obviously going to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: be somebody that you have to look at, and the
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: skating is something that they're going to have to figure out.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: But you know, they they seem everything I've read about
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: him so far, as far as like the rookie camps
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Anything in the mini camps has
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: talked about, you know, the hockey IQ and how it's
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you know, I've heard more than a few things mentioned
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: reminiscent of a young Sean Couturier and hockey IQ. So
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: you know, yes, the skating has to improve because it
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: is clunky, but if it does, and the Flyers have
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: had a couple guys over the past couple of years
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: where the skating was a little scary at first and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: then it turned out to be that they were able
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: to work with it to the point where it was
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: at least passable at least average, if not to above
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: average with certain guys. So if they can do that
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: with Nesbit, then they may have a guy that you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: is a lot more than any of us thought that
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: he would he would be maybe in those pre draft rankings. Yeah,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: it's an exciting thing to think about. It's not something
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: you know, I want to bank on because there there's
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: such a I mean, unless you're one of these guys
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that comes into the NHL as one of the first
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: couple picks and you start as an eighteen year old, Yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: there's such a growth card that still needs to happen
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: from like the age of eighteen until maybe twenty two
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: when you break into the league. That has to happen.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think he's just starting down that path. Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I think what's interesting is I read I subscribe to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: phl Y and our good friend of the show, Charlie
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: O'Connor wrote a piece and within that he was talking
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: about Jack Nesbitt and he said that his skating looked
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: improved even from where he was at in development camp
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: back in July. All right, that's that's like too. That's
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: actually less than two months, like a month and a
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: half at this point, and Charlie is already seeing improved skating.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Leads me to believe that, you know what, this kid
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: is coachable. This man is going to be able to
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: develop and I I think things are going to be
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: really really nice.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: He's coachable, and he's now in a professional organization where
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: you know, all of these organizations are able to hire,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: you know, the best of the best in terms of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: like the skating coaches and things of that nature. So
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: you're gonna, if you're a prospect of any kind of work,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: you're gonna pick up a couple of things in there,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and hopefully he can take that back with him the juniors,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: because I think that's where he's gonna end up and
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: kind of see what happens there. So, yeah, he's an
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: interesting guy to me. Gent Luchanco is for a different reason.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: It's very interesting just because of the situation. He's a
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: guy that he's either going to make the team because
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: of the HL role for one more year where the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: age limit is twenty and he's not quite there yet,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So he either makes the Flyers or he goes back
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: to his team and juniors, which isn't really that good.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: So he's kind of the standout guy on that team.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: So if he goes back there, how much is it
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: helping him development playing on that team, So you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: we'll have to see what happens there. I have a
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: feeling that they would like for him to make the
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: team so that he can, you know, just iron sharpens
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: iron and he can continue to get better every night
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: rather than be the best player on a bad team
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: in juniors. So we'll have to see what happens there.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm actually going tomorrow night. The Flyers are
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: playing the Caps in the Giant Center in Hershey, So
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to that game. So I want to see
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: just from a like a standpoint of who they're going
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to because you know, you want to get your veteran
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: got people in there some and get them some reps,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: but you want to really see the young guys. So
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I want to see the mix. I want to see
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: who's playing, who's sitting, and just kind of get a
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: sense of you know, maybe maybe get to see some
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: guys that I haven't seen yet and maybe make them
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll get my own eyes on them and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: be able to you know, get my own thoughts on them.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: So that I'm excited about that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Very nice, very good. Let's talk about that on the show.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: If we remember, if we remember, I to hear what
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you saw there. Specifically, look, Flyers lost to Montreal in
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: their second game of second preseason game, and you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: we go back to you know, I know we were
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: talking about Bernie and and you know, we'd love to
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: have him in front of the net, but boy, Sam Ersen.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Man, yeah, he got pretty bad.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And look, it's a preseason game. It's just you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: they're just getting into quote, you know, the hockey shape
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: here during preseason. But it's just it's a concern and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it's the one area on this team that I'm not
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent confident and in terms of the in
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: terms of the rebuild, in terms of the plan of action,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: that we really know what's going to be going on
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: with this particular position that's so critical in the future.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Lenn Yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting to see how
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: it all shakes out. I mean, you know, unless he
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: completely just dive bombs off the face of the earth,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be Arson and Vlad and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you know, then you're gonna have you know, koll Usov
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: in the HL with Lehigh Valley Ivan Fidodov having been
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: traded to Columbus, He's now no longer part of the
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: picture there, so you know, there's a little bit more
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: defined roles. There's not as many, you know, not as
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: many you know, people that you got to get reps
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: to and things like that. So I think that hierarchy
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: as far as the goalies between the NHL and the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: HL is relatively set. So now it's up to you
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: know Urson too, you know, having what we think is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: going to be a more capable backup this year in Bladar.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: It's incumbent upon him, like show us that you are
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the number one guy or at least one A in
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a one A one B tandem. You know, now's the chance. Yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: so see what he does.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, let us know what you're thinking about this
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Flyers preseason, the goalie situation, Philadelphia Sports Table at gmail
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: dot com. But love to read your email here on
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the show and respond to it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Len.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Before I let you go, let's get into some Eagles
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: talk here, because while this season has been good in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: terms of a three to zero record, at this point,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: we first wanted to talk about just Saquon Barkley and
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: what we should be making of his season. He's certainly
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: not replicating what he did last year. After three games,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: he's had fifty eight carries, which is tied for second
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: in the league, one hundred and ninety four yards, which
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: is twelfth in the league, two touchdowns, tied for eleventh,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and he's averaging only three point three yards per carry,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: which is one hundred and twenty first in the league here,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily think we need to be panicking
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: by any stretch. I think so many of these players
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: that don't play in the preseason, like we're just talking
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: about with the Flyers getting into the hockey shape, A
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys are still I think, you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I think Week four is going to be a defining
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: moment here for this Eagles team. A lot of these
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: guys getting into football shape that really weren't playing a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: lot in the preseason, just trying to get back in
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the swing of things here. I don't think there's a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl hangover by any stretch. I mean this as
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a team that's three and zero, but the offense having
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: some issues, Saquon Barkley in particular, I'm a bit baffled
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: by it. Maybe it's just the defenses that have been
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: able to hone in on him, because this offensive line
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: is still pretty damn good. So I don't know what
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts here about Saquon Barkley, what we've seen
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: from him thus far here.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I think that just you know, I think the league
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: saw in the Super Bowl they're like, Okay, the Chief said,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, you got to beat us because we're shut
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: We're focusing all of our efforts on Saquon and we're
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: shutting that part of the game down. And to his credit,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts did exactly that. But I think the rest
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: of the league is kind of maybe still on that motive. Okay,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: continue to show us. We're going to continue to dare
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: you guys to use Jalen Hurts abuse because we are
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: going to focus our efforts on stopping Saquon Barkley. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: think that is still where almost the entirety of the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: defensive game plan against the Philadelphia Eagles goes to. As
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: far as attention, I think it goes to Saquon Barkley,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and I think it's going to continue to go to
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley until Parts is just throwing the ball all
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: over the field and A. J. Brown and DeVante Smith
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: are just racking up huge numbers. Right then maybe they're like, Okay,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: we got to pick our poison here and we got
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: to spread out a little bit more, and maybe at
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that point things loosen up for Saquon Barkley. I also
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: just have a feeling okay. New offensive coordinator Kevin Botulo.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I think they're still I'm not so thinking it's like
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the physical aspect of needing to get into football shape,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: because to be honest, these guys should already be there.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: But I think it is the thing of like, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: you have a I know he was with the team
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: last year, but he is a new offensive coordinator, so
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: you're you're still maybe trying to get some concepts down
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and maybe it's not gelling and maybe Batullo has not
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: found his footing yet as a play caller. That's very
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: possible in my mind.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Think it's I think at this point it's a combination
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: of three things of Saquon being keyed on by opposing defenses,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you have a new play card that maybe isn't you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: fully comfortable yet, or it's not fully clicking yet, whatever
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the plan is. And then third is something that we
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: talked about going in the season, which is our own
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: expectations in that like he was never gonna be another
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: two thousand yard season. I'm sorry, They're just not gonna
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: let that happen two years in a row. Well, yeah,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I think I think people are getting a little. You know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you're you're expecting too much. If you're
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: expecting that, I'm sorry.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean, regardless of the trials and tribulations,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the offense has been through the honing in on Saquon
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Barkley that opposing defenses are really having success with. Even
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: though he's not having a dominant year, the Eagles are
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: still a top three power ranked team in this league.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Land In fact, they're first. They're number one in the
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Athletics Power rankings for this week. So where this team
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: is at, they're not in a bad place right now.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want people thinking, Okay, we're complaining. No, no,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: it's not that. It's not we're complaining about any stretch.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I'll take three and oh any day of the week here, yea.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But I mean I'm happy. I'm not gonna see Yeah. Yeah,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think they look great, But okay, you're the
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: defending champion. You're three and oh so and you can
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: continue to not look great. But until you get knocked
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: off your perch a little bit, how do you not
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: put them as number one exactly? I mean, yeah, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could take a look at who their
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl opponents were the Kansas City Chiefs and Mark
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Scofield and I are going to get it Chiefs in
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, like like this is is it
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: just the injuries with the Chiefs and the receiving corps
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: or is it just Patrick Mahomes can't do it himself anymore?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Like he's been doing it for so long, you know
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the time may be coming for him perhaps, And just
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: they can't they can't run the ball. So I think
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: gets still early. There's no need for anybody in Eagles
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Nation to panic about this team and what they are
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: able to do. They got a lot of talent and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to continue to grow as a
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: team as well. And that, but I gotta say lend
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: cornerback two position, as we've talked about before. Oh holy shishka,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Bob Dori Jackson stinks. He is not good.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to keep the mindset of last year they
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: were two and two. I specifically remember at one point
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: we had a a thing after a bad Eagles game,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: a postgame show where I think that the that the
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: thought of do they need to fire Siriani two and
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: two star? Yeah, that that I remember that topic being
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: broached on our show, yes, and they went on to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: just you know, obliterate. So I think you got to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: give them some rope here and and find their footing.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: And you know, hey, they're three and oh we're not
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: talking about a two and two seasons. Oh five, they're undefeated,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: So you know, I think you can afford to give
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: them a little bit of rope. And eventually, as you
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: get deeper into the season, you know, provided that they
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: people don't get hurt, I think eventually things will start
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: to click a little bit. And once they do, then
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: you're in a lot better.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, look, I didn't have it on the agenda
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: simply because I got you the agenda before we got
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the news. But I did want to just mention Nolan
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Smith going to injured reserve and that hurts. That is
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: gonna hurt this defense big time. It's his injury is
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: not expected to require surgery, but he's expected to be
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: out throughout the bye week, which is week nine. Perhaps
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he comes back week ten. Len, It's it's gonna be hurt.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: It's gonna that's gonna hurt, you know. I mean, guess
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: he had six and a half seasons last year during
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the regular season, but just blossomed in the preseason. I'm sorry,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the postseason with a franchise record for sacks. He doesn't
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: have any sacks this year thus far. Then again, I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: think the Eagles total only have three sacks I think
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: off the top of my head. But losing him is
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: rough because he's really been set in the edge. He's
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: been getting in the backfield, he's been disruptive, and uh,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see some guys step up, like
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: a ziz O je Lowry. He's gonna need to step
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: up big time. So it's it's gonna be it's gonna
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: be tough over these next couple weeks.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, absolutely, I mean this, They have Tampa
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: this week, right, I mean in Tampa, so that that
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: game legitimately, I mean, I know Mike Evans is out
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, right, Oh yeah, yep, So
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that helps in terms of the Eagles, But it's still
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: that game doesn't make me feel entirely comfortable. I mean,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: that is a game that you know, Yeah, I think
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: they're gonna win, But if they don't, would I be shocked. No.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Eagles have lost three out of four the last the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: three out of four down at Raymond James Stadium.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's entirely possible. Absolutely, But you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and and maybe that is a thing of like you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: we talked about just get the win, doesn't matter how
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: you look. Maybe that is a thing of like, yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: it kind of with the way things are going so far,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: and you want to see the offense start to click
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and you want to see, okay defensively, how do we
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: bounce back from an injury? Maybe this is a situation
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: where it kind of does matter how you look.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, folks, we are going to take
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: a break. Buddy, I'm gonna let you go here just
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: because gotta you gotta get that sweet head on a
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: pillow there, my friend.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: At this point, beauty, sleep isn't a thing. This is
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: what it is. It's not gonna get any better, but yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I need to get some sleep.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, folks. We're gonna take a break
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: when we come back. More NFL talks, some Eagles talk,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: NFC talk with our good friend Mark Scofield. Stick with us.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: And now on the team.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back, folks, getting into this NFL season.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: After three weeks, what have we seen from specific teams.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Are certainly gonna be discussing the Philadelphia Eagles a little
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: bit more here as Lennon and I were just talking
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: about our Philly teams and we got a great guest
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: from sp Nation. He's been a great friend of the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: podcast for so long, mister Mark Schofield, Buddy, how are you,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: my friend?
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I'm doing well, Jeff. It is great to be back here.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I can't believe we look ahead all basically spring, summer
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: to football. We can't wait for it to get here.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It's already week four. I know, like once the game start, like,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: it's good to have that rhyme and rhythm of the
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: football season, right. You got you know, Monday through Wednesday,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: we're talking about what just happened Thursday, Friday, Saturday, we
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: started thinking about what's gonna happen. We get games and
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: then we're into that routine and you know, you and
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I think we're similarly with sort of creatures have happened? Right,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: We need to have that structure back. But it flies four.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I mean I get some teams that have already been
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: eliminated from playoff contention, I know to October. Yeah, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: it's flying.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: It really is I think the like, I'm so glad
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: it's here, So glad we have the NFL. I'm so
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: glad we have college football. Even even high school football
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: around in my area is really huge. But one of
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: my daughters is a cheerleader, so I'm going to a
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: lot of high school football games. But with the NFL,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I think the most disappointing part. I don't mean just
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: like start off negative, but it's just the injuries. My gosh,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the amount of injuries this season. And I know we
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: see this every single year, but that's been kind of
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: disappointing because you know that certain teams could be capable
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: of more. We're certainly going to be getting into some
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: of those teams probably here in just a bit. But
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the injury bug that has been going around twenty twenty
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: five here is really prevalent.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't want to man, we're gonna be
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: on a real doub note here at a sessions.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: It almost makes it harder and harder to enjoy it
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: in a way, because there's the human element of seeing
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: what these athletes put themselves through to get here, to
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: get to, you know, in some cases, to make an
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: NFL roster in some cases to earn a started spot
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: or you know, a premium backup spot where you're playing
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: a lot, and then that gets taken away from you,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: whether it's for a series, a game, a season. Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: you know, that's hard. There's the acknowledgment that you know,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: these for the most part athletes don't have lawn shelf lines.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know the Brady's that stick around for
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: say twenty three years, they're not the norm, right, you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the average career is three four years now, And so
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: there's that element too. And then there's the fact that
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: you know, if you want to get into the more
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: of the toll it takes on a team, on a
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: team's potential, you know, you think about a position like
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: offensive line, right, and we've we've talked about this idea
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: for a while now, where it's a weak link position group. Yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: and got four good offensive linemen and one bad one.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: You don't have a good offensive line. Well, you can
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: have a very good offensive line to start the year.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: You could have five great offensive lineman. One gets hurt.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Now you've got four great offensive linemen and one average backup,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: you're in trouble. Yeah, you know, and I think you
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: know you saw Lane Johnson go out. I can have
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: on an offensive line, yeah, by on a on a team,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: on an offense, on a quarterback, if you have the
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: injury bugget so, yeah, it's and maybe this is me
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: getting older, Maybe this is me getting gray er. Maybe
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: this is me even the reading glasses more. But it's
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: sometimes hard to see, like the human toll, the human
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: side of it. You know, you don't want to see injuries.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: You hate seeing injuries. It doesn't matter if it's your team,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: another team, arrival team. You still hate that part of
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the sport. But it's unfortunately a part of the sport
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and teams have to play. Next man has to step
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: up and you have to move on and go ahead
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: the next week and try to win a football game.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, the NFL doesn't stop because of injuries, not by
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: any story at Yeah. So look to start us off
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: with the discussion of where the NFL is at right
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: now with specific teams after three weeks of play, where
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: a Philly sports podcast shows. So let's get into the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. I mean you mentioned them with Lane Johnson
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: going out this past week. If Matt Pryor come in
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: for a quarter and a half did not look great.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: They put Fred Johnson in things stabilized, the offense looked
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. But look this Eagles team, they
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: are certainly not playing their best football at all. In fact,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: my co host Len and I are just talking about
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: how Saquon Barkley has been bottled up by opposing defenses
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: so far this season, and it took two and a
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: half games before the passing attack finally came alive. Mark,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts here on what's been happening or
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: what you think has happened with this Eagles offense? You
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: know the ins and outs of it. Yet the fact
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that they're still pulling out wins and they are three
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and zero and in a lot of power rankings right
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: at the top of this league, and what are your
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: thoughts here about the Eagles offense?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: The three now? I mean, I think that's where you
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: start this conversation. And Jeff, you and I have talked
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: for years about the idea of context, right, we put
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: it into so many conversations, whether it's about draft prospects,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: whether it's about college teams, pro teams, et cetera, et cetera.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I think they're three games need some context. You know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: the season opener, the kickoff game, handing the banner, Dallas
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Cowboys come up to town, game gets interrupted by whether lightning,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: lawn delay, a weird set of circumstances. Week two, Super
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Bowl rematch in Kansas City Chiefs only one is the
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: sky falling in Kansas City. You win that game, and yes,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe the offense doesn't look great, maybe the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: passing game doesn't look great, and you come home in
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the Rams playoff rematch and you're down before you know it,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: nineteen seven at the half, twenty six seven, the Boo
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Birds are out. How do you come back and win
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: that game? I think you're three and zero.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Take that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: You don't apologize for winning games in the National Football League,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Like we just talked about it. So many fins can happen, injuries, contact,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: all of that. I think what's interesting, and I kind
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: of wrote this on Monday. You think about last year,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: you know, November December, the run into the playoffs, at
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: the run to the NFC Championship game. There is a
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: lot rit it's said about is this Eagles passing game
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: good enough?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: They need to throw more, They need to be better
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: throw in the football I mean I remember that Panthers
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: game late in the season. There was a lot of questions, Man,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts just isn't where it eas to be. I
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: remember saying things like, well, they don't need to throw
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: because that running game is so good. But then the
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: counter to that was, can they throw themselves back into
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: a game if they have to? They never really needed
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: to do that last year, right, they had to do
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: it on Sunday. Yeah, they had to do it on
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Sunday at a big way. You're down twenty sixth seven
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: or a third quarter. You're a one dimensional offense at
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: that point, right, I mean you were made one dimensional
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: because of what teams have been doing. Slow and take
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: one Barkley. Now you absolutely have to be one dimensional.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: And what do they do. They throw themselves back in
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: and they win a football game largely on the back
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: of Jalen Hurts in the passing game. Who I thought, Yes,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: passing game wasn't great first half. Maybe it wasn't great
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: for the first like you said, two and a half quarters,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I mean two enough games of this season. Yeah, it
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: was great in the third or fourth quarter. He was
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: great in the third or fourth quarter doing some things
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: hit in the backside, dig and all that fun stuff.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: And he said it after the game, he said, look,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: this show we get another way we can win a
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: football game. And so I think, more than anything else,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: that's my takeaway right now. I love when teams have five, six,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: ten different ways they can win a football game. The
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: ego show, they go, we got one more. All the
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: questions about, hey, can they throw themselves back at a
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: game if they have to, they just answered it against
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: a team that is a playoff caliber team, a team
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: that they played in the playoffs last year. I mean
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I went back before we hopped on. I googled, you know,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Eagles passing game not good enough twenty twenty four, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: story after story, maybe one or two that I even wrote.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: We're in there saying is this passing game good enough?
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: It wasn't really answered, given the run to the Super
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Bowl and the way those games unfolded. It was answered
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: in a big one Sunday, and I think that's a
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: huge takeaway for this team.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: It's interesting how we talk about one dimensional teams. You know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: folks thought that that was the Philadelphia Eagles, and maybe
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: it still is to a certain extent. After only three
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: weeks of play this year, but we did see something.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: We did see Jalen Hurts come alive with the passing game.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: As an Eagles fan, I hold out hope that this
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: team is going to from an offensive standpoint, that they
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: will be able to find the run game a little more,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: that they will be able to get the ball down
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the field when they need to. But it leads me
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: to another team that I think is really interesting so
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: far this NFL season, and that's the Washington Commanders within
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: this NFC East Division. Before the season started, Mark, I
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: had a feeling we would see this team take some
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: steps back this year. But look, they're two and one
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: after facing a number of injuries early this season, and
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the one word that I would use for the Commanders
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: thus far early on is resilient. They have been a
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: very resilient team. I'm wondering, what are you what's your
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: take on how the Commanders have looked facing the injury
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: adversity that they have been going through early on. How
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: do you assess the Commanders as one of the quote,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you know, top teams in the NFC.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think resilient is a good way
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: to describe them. Through three games and similar to what
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: we just said, you don't apologize for winning games. However,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: the wins come in the National Football League, they're two
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: and one. You know, I think that's a good place
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: to be. Obviously, you'd like to be three to zero,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: but they're two and one, and they deserve some credit
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: for you know, being without Jayden Daniels, being without some guys,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: so some of their top flight players and get into
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: two and one, and I think a solid win against
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: the Raiders this past week. I also think, look, they
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: need some context too. You know, your Week one win
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: is over the New York Giants, a team that is
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: now turned into their backup quarterback. Yeah, you know, you
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: lose on a short week on the road against the
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers. You know, I think that's a potential
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: playoff preview there. So you would have liked to get
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: that game. You don't get it on the road, don't
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: get on our short week. Okay, you come back and
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: you win without your starting quarterback, but it's against the
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Raiders team that is coming east. We often see those
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: teams West coast teams come east and struggle, not that
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: early window, and you know, maybe some of that was
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: at work and I think we're going to return to
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the Raiders in a moment, because I don't think they've
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: been as good as perhaps some people might have thought
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: they were going to be. But look, you're two and one.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: You've done it without injury, with some injuries. You did
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: it in week three without your starting quarterback. You've got
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: to Terry McLaurin situation now where he apparently has a
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: quad injury. But if people have found out that he
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: was actually going to a doctor that specializes in core injuries,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: so maybe there's two injuries now at play with one
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: of your best players. That's why I think Washington deserves
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: some credit for being where they are at two and one.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: And you know, again, you don't apologize for wins in
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: the National Football League. They have been resilient. But will
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: the injuries catch up with them? How long does the
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Daniels injury linger? How long does this Terry McLaurin situation lingker? Right,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: You know, there are some things that they have overcome
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: so far, but you think about them. You think about
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, for example, a team that has
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: so many injuries right now, at some point the injuries
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: are just too much to overcome, right and if you're
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: a Commander's fan, I think that's where your fear is
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: right now. At some with these injuries are just going
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: to be too much.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, look there's another team that I want
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: to dive into. That is I genuinely have some I'm
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: surprised at where they're at, and maybe other people are,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: maybe some people aren't. But moving over to the AFC,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I never really thought i'd see the day where the
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs were in last place in their division
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: after three weeks. I mean, they haven't been able to
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: get the rushing game going this year, and Patrick Mahomes
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: is trying to put the entire team on his back,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and we've seen him do this a number of times
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: in the past. He's been successful doing that, but as
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: time goes on, I'm really not sure he can do
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that anymore. It's something we talked about on our pregame
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: preview show before the Eagles and Chiefs game. I talked
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: about it with my guest at the time. Can Mahomes
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: continue to do this? Because I thought that he may
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: have to do that during the Eagles game, and he did,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: but he was not able to get it done. Yes,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: their two top receivers are out and they haven't been
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: on the field this season, and perhaps their fortune and
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: change when those two receivers are back on the field, Mark,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts about the Chiefs here the
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: chief struggles as we head into week four, because it's
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: been it's been kind of fascinating to watch. I'm wondering
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: if the dominance of that team within that division is
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: we're starting to see the downslide of it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's fascinating. Again. We're sitting here on the
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: cusp of week four, you know, last weekend of games
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: in September, and one week four comes to a close,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: either the Kansas City Chiefs or the Baltimore Ravens, barring
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: some sort of tie scenario, are gonna be one and four. Yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: one at three, Like, that's not what we expected those
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: teams to be. And yet they play each other this
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: week in a game we're all looking forward to, or
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: at least we're really looking forward to. You know this,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: when the schedule was announce says, hey, this my pr
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: You know, early season crown in the AFC is the
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: winner of that game. Now it's you win this game.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Your playoff hopes are still a lot. Yeah, you know,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: it's almost like it's a de facto playoff game. So
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I think that's sort of a fascinating end. Go to
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: week four here as to the Chiefs in particular, No,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: it's interesting. I had this conversation yesterday on the radio Tuesday,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: on the radio, recording this on Wednesday about what's going
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: on in Kansas City, and you know, brought up this
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: idea of look, you know, if your receivers aren't separated,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: as long as you've got a decent enough offensive line
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: to buy you time, you can create time and create
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: separation artificially. If your receiver separate but you can't get
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: blocks in front of you and you're under pressure all
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: the time, that's okay because you just quick game it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: You get the ball out quickly, you do things schematically,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: you can get around that. When you can't get consistent
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: separation from your receivers and you can't get protection up front, like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: you can't make it work in that scenario, right, you
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: look at you know the fact, like you said, they're
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: down some of their top receivers. According to next Gen
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: stats against the Giants in Week three, the top receiver
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: in terms of getting separation was Travis Kelce with three
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: point two yards of average separation from Kansas City. When
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: it's your tight end that's tough, then it's Taekwon Thornton.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Then it's no a Gray and other sort of tight
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: end and tight player. And they were all near the
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: bottom of the list league wide in Week three. That's
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: not good. And then you look at what's happening from
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: a protection standpoint, and Mahomes is getting pressured. They give
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: it up pressure sometimes when it's just four Eagles, fans
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: know exactly what that looks like. You guys saw that
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: a lot back in February, getting pressure with four against Mahomes.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: That's what they're dealing with right now. On the offensive
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: side of the ball. Patrick Mahomes as good as he is,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: like he can overcome one. Guys aren't getting separation, Well,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: he can overcome that, not getting protection, not getting time.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: He can overcome that, not getting separation and not getting
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: time in the pocket. You can't overcome that for the
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: most part as a quarterback, even if you're one of
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the game's great That's where they find themselves right now
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: and they figure it out. I think maybe you know,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: if there's a group that can quote figure it out.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: It's Andy Reid, it's Patrick Mahomes, it's the people in
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: that building. They've shown an ability to do stuff like
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: that before. But it's getting late early, yeah, you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: and when you're talking about they might be one in
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: three come October, that's a very scary place. They could
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: be three games back in the division, you know when
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: we absolutely wake up Wednesday morning, depending on what the
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Chargers doing this week. Again, not a good place to
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: be and not any place where you used to see
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: in the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, boy, great discussion here, and again folks, we're talking
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: to Mark Scofield from SB Nation. Mark, let folks know
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: before we go to break here where they can find
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: you on the interwebs out there if they want to
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: catch what you're writing about in terms of football, in
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: terms of what you're writing about when it comes to
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: F one, let folks know where they can find you
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, the easiest places espimation dot com. But you know,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: we're also sort of fractured. But at Mark Schoolfield on
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Blue Sky, that's where I'm doing most of my stuff
• 49:49
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• 50:10
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• 50:16
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• 50:22
  Speaker 1: All right, fantastic folks. We're gonna take a break when
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: we get back. More NFL talk coming your way. All right,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: we are back again with Mark Schofield from ESB nation
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: dot com. Great content, great sports content all the time
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: over there. I'm want to stick with the AFC West
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Division here, Mark. We were talking about the Chiefs right
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: before break, but the the Los Angeles Chargers here are
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: three and zero, and man, they have been pulling out
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: all the stops and the narrative really is right now.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Can Justin Herbert actually get this done this year and
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: prove that he can take this team deep into the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: playoffs here, he's playing some pretty good football thus far.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: But you know, as somebody who has assessed quarterbacks and
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: you are a student of the game, my friend, are
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you seeing anything different with Justin Herbert this season? And
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: what are your overall thoughts on the Chargers moving forward here?
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: You know, I think it's it's stunning to consider this.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: And I put this question to my son and my
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: wife on Monday. Last time the Chargers were three and oh,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: do you know who their starting quarterback was?
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Oh? My god? What was it was? This?
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Stan Humphries.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Is Drew Brees?
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Was it Drew Brees?
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: It was Drew Brees. Okay, And you know what I
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: was doing the last time lost the Chargers franchise was
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: three and oh I was in my final year of
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: law school.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was twenty wow, two thousand and two. It
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: was two thousand and two, the last year. It was
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: the first year of realignment, and by going to three
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: to zero and winning three games over division opponents, they're
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: the first team to do that since realigned.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm was forgot Drewearies was on the Chargers, by
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the way, I almost forgot.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: That right, Like, like you know, you might have thought
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: that maybe it was Philip Rivers, Stan Humphrey's great guest,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: great guest there. I love that call back. Now it
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: was Drew Brees back when you know the last time
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: the Chargers were three and oh and look as somebody
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: that loved Herbert coming out that that loves watching him
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: play and the way he plays the position. You know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: I mentioned that radio spot I do every Tuesday I'm
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: on in Vancouver every Tuesday afternoon. I've been doing that
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: radio spot for nine years now. Again reference to the
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: readers and the gray Hairs, and every every week they
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: asked me to kick off the set the spot. You know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: my throw of the week and his touchdown to Keenan Allen,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: you know, late fourth quarter, one of the best throws
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: you will ever see from climb in the pocket, shrug
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: it off and defender to well to his left. These
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: are the types of things he can do. That being said,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: we've been here before with the Chargers, right, every summer,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: every fall it's Lucy with the football and I'm Charlie
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Brown and I'm sprinted towards it. And in the back
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: of my mind, Jeff, there's just that fear that Lucy's
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: gonna pull it away again. That this team that we
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: love to hype off us in the media. And I
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: put myself firmly at the forefront of this because I
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: feel like every year I'm out there saying, yeah, this
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: is the year. You know, hardballs come in, it's gonna
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: be great. Yeah, but they do look very good right now.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: And you know you talk about context, Well, you beat
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: the AFC champs in week one, ye, you win another
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: division game in week two. You know it's the Raiders,
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: but it's Monday night. Who In week three, you have
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: this comeback against a defense in Denver last year was
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: one of the best defenses in the league, and people
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: think is going to when all of siden don't be
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: one of the league's premier defenses yet again, you know,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: maybe that hasn't fully born itself out through three weeks here,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: but I think that Denver defense could still be good.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: And they're three it.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Oh and again, you don't apologize for winning games, but
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: it's just in the back of my mind, there's that
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: fear that we've been here before. And whether it's you
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: know that they have a bad game down the stretch
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: or a couple bad games down the stretch, or like
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: they did a couple of years ago, they have that
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: dramatic loss in the playoffs where they blow a big
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: lead that they had in the first half to Jacksonville,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: that at some point the other shoe is going to
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: drop with the team. But right now they look like
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: one of the best teams in the AFC. Will that continue?
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because again we've been here beforeward.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: That absolutely absolutely all right, Well, I wanted to get
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: into some teams that are just really bad, quite frankly,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: some teams that really just stink and that are continually
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: putting a bad product on the field. And I got
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: to tell you, Mark, every single year when I'm gonna
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: mention these three teams that we're going to go through
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: really quick here, every year I look at them and say,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm looking forward to seeing what they
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: do this year. I'm looking forward to seeing what changes
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: they've made, how they're going to remain at least consist
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: during part of a season. But they've remained consistently bad.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: That's the one thing they've remained consistently with in terms
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: of these three teams. So I just want to get
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: your quick thoughts on these following teams, and you know
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: why they just continue to be so bad year after year.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Let's start off with the New York Jets. I mean,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: it's just seems to be a perpetual storyline with them.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Bad team, bad organization, bad front office. What are your
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: thoughts here on the Jets and why they just continue
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: to think so much?
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna cheat here, okay, Okay, because you know,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: as we've done these shows over the years, you're always
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: so kind to sort of, you know, send over the
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: talking points, the questions you're going to ask. So I
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: got some time to sort of formulate things, and I
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: know the teams you're going to ask. Yes, the Jets,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: the Saints, the Titans, Right, those are the three teams
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: you want to talk about it. Yes, there's a common
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: thread here. Okay, it's the quarterback position. Okay, it's the quarterback.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Think about the Jets. When was the last time they
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: really had stability at the quarterback position?
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: General Chad Pennington? Probably maybe Titans.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Titans. Maybe maybe you'd say Tannehill, that
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: maybe Steve McNair McNair. And with the Saints, it's a
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: guy we just talked about Drew Brees again as we're
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: sitting here today on Wednesday, he's one of the first
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: time nominees up for ensrinment in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: this year, next year's class. When you miss at the
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: quarterback position in a draft, like say, you know, the
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe you might say that the Jets did that.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: You know, maybe you might with Zach Wilson. I think
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: that'd be a fair assistment. You might say that the
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Titans did that with Marcus Mariota. You know, you're hoping
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: they don't do that, you know here with cam Ward
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: with just a couple of games in when you swit
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: did miss on a free agent, like it looks like
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: the Saints might have done with Derek Carr. When you're
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out the quarterback and now you're trying
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: to like race against time to bootstrapping QB after missing
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: a free agency it's going to take you some time
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: to get it right as organization. And so I know
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: I sort of cheated there, jumped ahead of you a bit.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: But I think there's a common element here, which is
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: the importance of the quarterback position. That is interesting. There's
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: a fascinating story done. I think today or yesterday in
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: the athletic about you know, best frontal offices, and you know,
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: teams you kind of thought would be up there. Yeah,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: you know, like Baltimore and certainly Philadelphia. A common threat
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: there is they figured quarterback out right, yep, you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: because the sort of thesis of the of the you know,
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: the genesis question of that piece was, you know, who
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: is the best roster? Those are the teams that are
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: up there. A very good quarterback can hide some holes
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: on a roster, right, you know, and there were you
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: know there Ryan McCrystal, I believe his name. He's a
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Browns affiliated typewriters a lot of draft stuff. He's saying, Look,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Browns have a great roster, but they don't have a quarterback.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: That's why they're buried at the bottom of this list. Yeah,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: you can build a great roster, but if you miss
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: on quarterback, it's going to be hard to overcome that.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: And so I think with these three teams, the Saints,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: the Jets, the Titans, they've missed on quarterback a couple
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: of different times. Now, whether it's draft, free agency, trades,
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: whatever the case may be, they haven't gotten those right.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: They're still looking forward that answer at the game's biggest,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: most important position, and all three teams are struggling. Yeah, now,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: maybe cam Ward figures it out. Maybe he ends up
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: being the guy so that maybe Tennessee they come off
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: this list eventually, you know, New Orleans, maybe they figure
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: it out. Next year, the Jets, maybe they figure But
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: it's that importance of this position where if you don't
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: get it right, you're going to struggle, and you might
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: struggle for a couple of years until you fix it absolutely.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: And I don't know why people just don't listen to
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: our friend Matt Waldman more. I'm not even kidding these
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: front offices. I remember Zach Wilson coming out. I remember
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: having Matt on the show and we specifically were talking
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: about the intricacies of Zach Wilson's footwork. I remember that.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I remember talking to my best friend who's a Jets fan,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, you gotta watch this year and even
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: in subsequent years Zack Wilson's footwork and consistently it was trendous.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: He just wasn't able to get it done for whatever reason.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for him. It just didn't work out.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Didn't work out for the Jets. More people need to
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: listen to our friend Matt Wolden than I think at
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if Matt would want to
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: do it. I don't know if Matt would want to
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: do it, but it bog was my mind that a
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: team hasn't backed up the Brinks truck to Matt's house
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: and said, look, just scout for us, Yes, ynestly right,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: look and Matt will tell you, yes, he's got something's wrong. Yeah,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: nobody like you talk about Russell Wilson like he was
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: one of the first, if not the only one pre draft. Is, Look,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: this guy's going to be something. I still remember the
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: show that Matt and I did on Patrick Maholmes. I
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: everybody thought it would never work in the NFL, and
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: he and I, you can watch this film, just giggled
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: for like ninety minutes straight on how like special this
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: kid could be in the National Football League. Matt does
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: a very very very good jobs, done a very very
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: very good job scout in the quarterback decision. And look,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: he's not perfect, right, but I'd put his record up
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: against the NFL's writ.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Large, absolutely absolutely. That's why I brought it up. I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: didn't even think I would. But in talking about this,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, the quarterback position is just so so important
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: as we know, but it, you know, it just goes
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: to show that, you know, you could. You have these
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: guys who are in these positions in the front office,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: you have scouting departments as well. There's some teams that
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: just don't know how to properly evaluate talent at times
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: or they're.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Just NFL teams have the resources to hire people to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: talk to your kindergarten teacher. Yeah, they will hire people
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: to follow you on flights, to visit other teams or
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: team facilities to see how you behave with gate agents
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: and ticket counter agents, to see what kind of person
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: you're like when the bright lights are on or when
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: you don't think you're being They have the resources to
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: do whatever they want to do when it comes to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: a value in quarterbacks, and they still, armed with all
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: this information, don't get it right, Yeah, because it's so hard.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: I mean I talk with other people in the industry
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: all the time, Like you know, I'm known for quarterback
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: evaluation or all that. I always don't want to do
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: it anymore, especially when it comes to the draft, because
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: it's just so hard, and the teams get it wrong,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: and ultimately what decides it are you know, the ten
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: inches between a person's you know, one side of the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: head to the other, like that individual's like brain and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: how they acclimate and all of that stuff. I can't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: get in there. NFL teams sometimes can't get in there.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: It's just sometimes you might have all the ability in
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: the world that it just doesn't click for whatever reason.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you might need a couple of years and then
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: you find yourself in the right spot. Like it's just
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: so hard to get the quarterback evaluation couldp on it right.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: And if you don't get it right, these teams like
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: the Jets, the Saints, Titans, you might be foundering.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: For a while.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, buddy. Well, before I let you go,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: want to talk about which teams have been the biggest
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: disappointments thus far here as we're heading into week four,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: and also the team that's been the biggest surprise for you.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: So let's start off with team that has been the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: biggest disappointment for you. I can tell you. For me,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: it's been the Raiders. It was between Raider Raiders and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: the Broncos. I really thought the Broncos were going to
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: show us a lot more right out of the gate
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: this season. Also thought the Raiders were going to do
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the same. What are your thoughts on the biggest disappointment
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: out of the gate this season?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I mean you picked it at the Raiders.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: For me, Yeah, I wrote in our we had like
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: a fifty story NFL preview at Aspenation dot com and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: one of the stories I wrote was why I'm buying
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: the Raiders. I was all in on this team. I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: was all in on everything they did, the culture change.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: I wrote about culture shifts and business decisions, Parngino and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Pete again. And look they're one and two and they
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: look lost right now. Yeah, and I'm very you know,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: disappointed in the Raiders. I thought they might contend in
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: the division. That's how high I was on them. Now
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: maybe it's just I was wildly wrong, and through three
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: games it looks like I was wildly wrong. But yeah,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: it's the Raiders for me. I mean you can say
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Kansas City hasn't been you know where they're staring at
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: one and three like that's certainly disappointed. You know, Denver
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: hasn't been as good as we thought they were going
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: to be perhaps, But for me it's the Raiders because
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: I was all in on everything they did this offseason.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I was totally buyed into it. Maybe you know I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: fell for hook Cloude and Sinker.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: All Right, Well, what's the team that's been the biggest
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: surprise for you this far?
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: This is Indianapolis, right, Yeah, there you go.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I Daniel Jones man Indiana Jones.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: I mean it's I mean, it's a great nickname. It's fantastic.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: I love to see it. And look, I'm happy for
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: him because obviously did it and the way he would
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: have liked in New York. And I think it's sustainable.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: I really do. I I know a lot of people
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: are starting to look at their schedules saying, well, can
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: are we going to see a drop off? They got
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of winnable games coming up. He's played extremely
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: well from the pocket. He's playing extremely well under pressure
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: in the pocket, which I think was part of his
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: game that wasn't always there for him. And it's not
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: just running around and trying to make plays. It's like
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: under pressure in the pocket itself is making some big plays.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: And so I've been very surprised by them. And ya. Look,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: you beat Miami, maybe that doesn't carry a lot of weight.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: You beat Tennessee, maybe doesn't carry a lot of weight.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: You beat Denver, that was an impressive one. You beat
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: the teams in fel you know you beat and again
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: it's a theme of the show, right, you don't apologize
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: for winning games. Right, you beat the teams that are
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: on your schedule. You're three to zero for a reason.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Your quarterback's playing well. Is it sustainable?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it is.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I think I think this NFL season we're gonna see
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: some good things, interesting things, surprises, disappointments before it's all
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: said and done. For sure again, folks, he is Mark
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Schofield from ESB Nation espnation dot com. My friend, Always
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: great having you on, Love our discussions, always in depth,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: just always heartfelt. Always great to see you come back
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: and join us down the road, my friend.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, you know you know what I find mean. Jeff
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  Speaker 3: will be back before you know. You're probably sticking me already.
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