Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / The United Nations votes to adopt a new map that shows Africa's true scale
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The United Nations has passed a resolution to adopt a
- 0:03Speaker 1: new version of the world map. The new map aims
- 0:06Speaker 1: to better represent the true size of the globe's continents.
- 0:10Speaker 1: The old Mercator or Mercator originated back in 1569 and
- 0:16Speaker 1: distorts the size of countries and continents around the equator
- 0:20Speaker 1: and in the polar regions. The correct the map resolution
- 0:24Speaker 1: was put forth.
- 0:25Speaker 2: By the African Union.
- 0:27Speaker 1: 164 members of the UN voted in favor. only the
- 0:30Speaker 1: United States voted against. The resolution was spearheaded by the
- 0:37Speaker 1: African country Togo. Its foreign minister outlined the point of
- 0:41Speaker 1: changing the map.
- 0:42Speaker 3: First is a symbolic significance for us. It's very important.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Second is the historical significance. Third point is also a
- 0:54Speaker 3: cultural significance for us because we said now After the resolution,
- 1:02Speaker 3: we can know exactly, and we can know, we can share,
- 1:07Speaker 3: and we can talk about the real size of African continent.
- 1:16Speaker 3: We need to see, we need to see, and we
- 1:18Speaker 3: need to work for the better, what we say.
- 1:20Speaker 2: A fair world begins with a fair map. All right,
- 1:25Speaker 2: I want to pull in now Farah India.
- 1:27Speaker 1: She is a leading African advocate who works to Ensure
- 1:30Speaker 1: the continent's voice is heard in global debates on development, health,
- 1:34Speaker 1: and policy. Tonight, she joins us as the world rethinks
- 1:37Speaker 1: one of the most familiar images, and that is the
- 1:40Speaker 1: map of the world.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Farah, it's good to have you with us.
- 1:43Speaker 1: For many viewers, this sounds like a debate about maps.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Tell me why it is more than that.
- 1:54Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. Yes, it's a lot more
- 1:56Speaker 4: than that, because a map is never just a drawing.
- 1:59Speaker 4: It's a story about who matters. It's the first image
- 2:04Speaker 4: of the world a child sees, and it stays with
- 2:06Speaker 4: them for life. So when the map most of us
- 2:09Speaker 4: grew up with shows Africa the size of Greenland, when
- 2:13Speaker 4: in reality, Africa is 14 times larger, the message is quiet,
- 2:17Speaker 4: but still very clear that our African continent is smaller
- 2:21Speaker 4: and it matters less. So we know that physical maps
- 2:25Speaker 4: shape mental maps. Mental maps influence diplomacy. They influence investment
- 2:31Speaker 4: decisions and global priorities. So a continent that looks small
- 2:36Speaker 4: is more easily sidelined in negotiations or treated as less
- 2:40Speaker 4: central to global affairs. So this was never just about geography.
- 2:44Speaker 4: It's really truly about perception and perception is power.
- 2:48Speaker 1: So how significant then is this UN vote? I mean,
- 2:52Speaker 1: I'm I'm assuming you think it's going to have real
- 2:55Speaker 1: world impacts.
- 2:59Speaker 4: It is very significant because for almost 500 years, the
- 3:03Speaker 4: Mercator projection has been the default picture of the planet
- 3:06Speaker 4: and no one ever chose it. Today, 164 countries chose
- 3:12Speaker 4: something and they chose accuracy that has never happened before.
- 3:16Speaker 4: And I really want to give credit to Professor Robert
- 3:20Speaker 4: Ducey of Togo, who carried this personally to the General
- 3:24Speaker 4: Assembly and to the African Union, which stood behind him.
- 3:28Speaker 4: So this is really Africa setting the agenda on how
- 3:31Speaker 4: the continent really is seen and not asking for permission.
- 3:35Speaker 4: But we also have to be realistic because the resolution
- 3:39Speaker 4: is not binding, right? So nobody's atlas is going to
- 3:42Speaker 4: change overnight. What changes is really... that every ministry of education,
- 3:48Speaker 4: every publisher, every tech company now has the official reference
- 3:53Speaker 4: point that they did not have yesterday. So a teacher
- 3:56Speaker 4: who wants to use an accurate map no longer has
- 3:59Speaker 4: to justify it. So the burden of proof has now
- 4:02Speaker 4: moved to those who want to keep using a distorted map. And,
- 4:07Speaker 4: you know, that's really what the UN resolution did today.
- 4:11Speaker 4: It really changed the norms. And now our job is
- 4:14Speaker 4: really to turn that norm into practice.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you said that this vote is not binding,
- 4:19Speaker 1: but it certainly makes a statement in the fact that,
- 4:22Speaker 1: you know, you had almost all members of the UN
- 4:25Speaker 1: voting for it.
- 4:27Speaker 2: What's the next step here?
- 4:28Speaker 1: Do you think it will be in classrooms around the world,
- 4:31Speaker 1: simply having an accurate portrayal of the continents around the
- 4:36Speaker 1: world there for children to see?
- 4:40Speaker 4: That's our ambition and that's what we're going to work towards. Ideally,
- 4:46Speaker 4: we want three things. The first is that the UN
- 4:48Speaker 4: system itself should apply the resolution and its report, its
- 4:52Speaker 4: public materials, so that member states have a model to follow. Second,
- 4:57Speaker 4: we want ministries of education, starting with African Union members,
- 5:02Speaker 4: to bring accurate maps into curricula, textbooks, classroom materials. And
- 5:08Speaker 4: this is really, we know that classrooms is where perceptions
- 5:11Speaker 4: are formed, and it's really something that a government can
- 5:15Speaker 4: have an impact on within the school year. So this
- 5:18Speaker 4: is really quite important for us. And third, we want
- 5:21Speaker 4: tech companies as well, because now most people know the
- 5:25Speaker 4: world through their phone and they meet the world through
- 5:27Speaker 4: their screen. So the default has always been the Mercator projection.
- 5:32Speaker 4: We want to make sure that we set a new
- 5:35Speaker 4: standard and really show that the relative size of continents
- 5:39Speaker 4: actually matter. So with Speak of Africa and Africa and
- 5:44Speaker 4: our partners, Africa No Filter, what we're going to really
- 5:47Speaker 4: focus on is ensuring that we're following on who acts
- 5:50Speaker 4: and who does not. And we'll make sure to say
- 5:53Speaker 4: so publicly as well.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Before we run out of time, I want to ask you,
- 5:57Speaker 1: You know, there are some critics who say that changing
- 5:59Speaker 1: maps will not create jobs. It will not reduce poverty.
- 6:03Speaker 1: They say maps at the end of the day don't matter.
- 6:06Speaker 1: What do you say to that?
- 6:09Speaker 4: Well, I couldn't disagree any more than that. I think
- 6:13Speaker 4: we're entering a century in which by 2050, one person
- 6:17Speaker 4: in Africa will be one person in the world, sorry,
- 6:21Speaker 4: will be from from Africa. The continent is central to climate, energy, trade,
- 6:26Speaker 4: security issues as well. We have the largest population on Earth.
- 6:31Speaker 4: We're the second largest continent by population and by land
- 6:34Speaker 4: as well. So for us, it's really important to be
- 6:38Speaker 4: seen for what we are and for how large we
- 6:42Speaker 4: are as well. And it's really an issue I think
- 6:45Speaker 4: that should matter to the global audience because we're all
- 6:48Speaker 4: looking at the same wrong map. It's not just an
- 6:51Speaker 4: African issue.
- 6:52Speaker 2: That's right.
- 6:53Speaker 4: The Mercator production shrinks the entire equatorial belt. So South America,
- 6:57Speaker 4: South Asia, Southeast Asia. And when people really outside of
- 7:02Speaker 4: Africa grew up with a distorted picture, they carry a
- 7:04Speaker 4: distorted understanding of the world's economy. And when these accurate
- 7:10Speaker 4: maps actually does not take anything from anyone, they don't
- 7:14Speaker 4: make anyone smaller. They just really show everyone in their
- 7:18Speaker 4: true size.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we're out of time. Farah, NDI, good talking with you, though.
- 7:23Speaker 1: And I am sure people will be looking twice at
- 7:26Speaker 1: their maps now.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Thank you.