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*Bonus Episode* Slow It Down With PJ Harding · Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, podcast listeners, it's John a been a Meghan here
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  Speaker 1: right now, a special podcast, a brand new podcast. You're
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  Speaker 1: about to hear the first episode on our podcast feed
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  Speaker 1: and I could man spin it. I could tell you
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  Speaker 1: more about it, but I'm not going.
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  Speaker 2: To because he doesn't know enough about it. Exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the start of the podcast, you know, from
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  Speaker 1: Meddi and PJ in the afternoons on the Hits, it's
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  Speaker 1: pe J harding.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Heye, thank you guys. Well I think you could come
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  Speaker 4: on Ben, give it your bescuy, Like, what do you
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  Speaker 4: think the podcast is about.
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  Speaker 2: It's about it down, It's about slowing it down.
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  Speaker 1: It's about you know, life is busy, Peach. It's hard,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and it's nice to take a moment for
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  Speaker 1: yourself and to appreciate the things because it's moving fast
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't you don't know the good old
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  Speaker 1: days until they're gone. I think Cash is saying about
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  Speaker 1: that with Macklamore.
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  Speaker 5: You absolutely not, No, that's exactly it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing this probably from a selfish perspect of I
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  Speaker 4: feel like life has been particularly busy this year, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be that person who always gives
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  Speaker 4: the copper answer of being busy. So it's literally dedicating
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  Speaker 4: just under an hour every week.
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  Speaker 2: Talking to people on how they slow it down.
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  Speaker 4: I find peace the chaos and the magic moments from
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  Speaker 4: the mundane and basically reconnecting with what it means to
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  Speaker 4: be human, which, like it all sounds where she was
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  Speaker 4: she talked, But I think more than even we need
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  Speaker 4: this kind of chat. People thrust out life as hers
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  Speaker 4: and I just want to have like a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of a zen kind of retreat vibe for Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Oh God, that's a great idea for them, and so
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  Speaker 1: people can listen to it right now, right in our
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  Speaker 1: first episode, and then of course you can subscribe to
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  Speaker 1: Slow It Down with PJ Harding on iHeartRadio, where you
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  Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Episodes out every Sunday, Peach.
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  Speaker 4: That's every Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: With the Heads podcast Network.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Slow It Down. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 3: PJ Harding, and I've started this podcast because, well, pretty selfishly, really,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like life is so busy, even though I
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  Speaker 3: live literally in the middle of nowhere, off.
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  Speaker 2: Grid, surrounded by bosh.
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  Speaker 3: You'd think that you could just quiet in the noise,
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  Speaker 3: but I still feel stressed. I still feel overwhelmed. I
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  Speaker 3: still feel that pressure of keeping up with what everyone
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  Speaker 3: else is doing. And I want to carve out some
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  Speaker 3: time every week to sit down and have really conscious
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  Speaker 3: conversations with people who are also living busy lives. And
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  Speaker 3: I want to pick their brains and work out how
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  Speaker 3: they find peace and the chaos and what.
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  Speaker 2: Rituals they do to stay sane. It's that simple.
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  Speaker 3: Every week I'll have a new guest and hopefully we
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  Speaker 3: can be inspired together. I don't want this to be
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  Speaker 3: a judgmental zone. I want it to be a placed
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  Speaker 3: you can chill out and listen to over the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: And I am so excited to introduce my first guest
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  Speaker 3: on the show, Zoe Marshall. We actually briefly work together
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  Speaker 3: back in the day when she was working on ZDM
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  Speaker 3: and Auckland. She worked on a show there for a while,
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  Speaker 3: and then we've sort of just kept in touch over
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  Speaker 3: the years, and she's gone.
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  Speaker 2: On to create some amazing podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: She created The Deep and then started a subscription called
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  Speaker 3: The Deeper, and the conversations that she has had on
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  Speaker 3: that podcast have been pretty heavy. She's talked to people
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  Speaker 3: will parents that have been given a terminal diagnosis. She's
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  Speaker 3: talked to istics, conscious sex workers, the list goes on.
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  Speaker 3: She's not afraid to tackle a taboo topic, and more recently,
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  Speaker 3: she's gone on to create a new platform called Rise,
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  Speaker 3: which helps people create the life they deserve. And it's
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  Speaker 3: all about manifestation, but as it's manifestation a bit better,
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  Speaker 3: and she talks about her through so much more to
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  Speaker 3: it than just at being woo. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: science to back up some of this stuff. So I
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  Speaker 3: can't wait to pick her brain this episode. And I
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  Speaker 3: really hope you enjoying my chat with Sally. Oh sorry,
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  Speaker 3: I've been so excited to catch up with you.
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  Speaker 2: It has been a while. I think the last time
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  Speaker 2: we talked, i'd just.
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  Speaker 3: Given birth and I went through like a step by
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  Speaker 3: step harrowing encounter of what happens.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you were there was a little bit of PTSD.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So it's really nice to see your beautiful
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  Speaker 3: face again and you howl'd the baby he's just gone.
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  Speaker 5: To Wow, two years since I spoke to you, it's crazy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you were living in the bush.
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  Speaker 2: I am kind pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, though I work in the nearest town now,
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  Speaker 3: so I actually do a radio show out of the
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  Speaker 3: local rural tarmag is a twenty.
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  Speaker 5: Minute drive look at you all set up?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I'll run through what slow It Down
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  Speaker 3: is and kind of the premise of this podcast and
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  Speaker 3: why I thought you'd be a perfect fat So basically,
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  Speaker 3: I think since to the middle of nowhere, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I had this expectation that life becomes slow and relaxed
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  Speaker 3: and I'd be grounded. And the reality is, I'm still stressed.
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  Speaker 3: Life still feels chaotic, and I have a beautiful life,
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  Speaker 3: but it's so easy to not appreciate everything beautiful in
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  Speaker 3: front of you. So I want to talk about tips
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  Speaker 3: and tricks and ways to really feel like you can
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  Speaker 3: make the most of the golden years.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, are we in the golden years?
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  Speaker 2: I know? I know for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like this is so aligned with where I
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  Speaker 5: am at because I am very literally in a metamorphosis
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  Speaker 5: of wanting to have the experiences and wisdom of like
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  Speaker 5: being an elder on a rocking chair, you know, yep,
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  Speaker 5: but like doing all of that now, like the pace,
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  Speaker 5: the presence, the appreciation now. So I am I'm just
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  Speaker 5: I want to get rid of everything. I want to
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  Speaker 5: get rid of like a lot of my belongings. I
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  Speaker 5: want to downsize everything in my life. I want to
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  Speaker 5: just have my needs met and then be able to.
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  Speaker 2: Do less.
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  Speaker 5: And I am like it already is happening. And I
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  Speaker 5: think it all started with like I had a quite
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  Speaker 5: quite a scary breast scare in June, and that just
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  Speaker 5: shifts everything. And it's such a shame that human beings
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  Speaker 5: need such a dire situation to wake them up, but
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  Speaker 5: I did. And I just got back from two and
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  Speaker 5: a half weeks in Europe and Dubai and literally just
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  Speaker 5: sitting in the sun eating bread and butter and olive oil.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, this is living. Obviously, it's very different circumstances,
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  Speaker 5: but what if we could bring that level. I like
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  Speaker 5: to call it like the magic in the mundane, like
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  Speaker 5: finding the miracles.
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  Speaker 2: Stop it there.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally like one of my objectives, well objectives of
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  Speaker 3: this podcast is finding magic in the mundane, or like
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  Speaker 3: finding meaning in the mundane, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I find like being in awe of everything
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  Speaker 5: around us. So I think we have just been really
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  Speaker 5: stripped of so much importance because of you know, how
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  Speaker 5: distracted we are, how we've got these kind of really
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  Speaker 5: quick dopamine hits all the time. We're not able to
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  Speaker 5: focus in and slow down and appreciate the things that
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  Speaker 5: we have. I created a whole new business. I got
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  Speaker 5: rid of slowed down one side of my business and
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  Speaker 5: started a new one which is all around this and
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  Speaker 5: it's around manifestation, co creation mindset. But truly, like it
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  Speaker 5: sounds like a riddle, but everything that we want, if
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  Speaker 5: you are living as if you already have that thing,
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  Speaker 5: and you're already feeling the way it would feel to
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  Speaker 5: have the thing, then you already have the feeling you
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  Speaker 5: would have it even if you got it. So it's
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  Speaker 5: kind of like once you get all the stuff right,
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  Speaker 5: Like I went really hard in my career and I
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  Speaker 5: got the accolades, and I got the fancy car, and
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  Speaker 5: I got the fancy house, and I got the fancy things,
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  Speaker 5: and then you're like, oh fuck, I didn't need any
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  Speaker 5: of the fancy things, any of them. Yes, right, but
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  Speaker 5: now shut down all those businesses. Start something that feels
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  Speaker 5: like in true service, which will also keep me accountable
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  Speaker 5: every single day and just be able to meet life
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  Speaker 5: where it's at and be able to practice in real time.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's okay, to become heady about all of this
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  Speaker 5: and get into the education and do the YouTube and
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  Speaker 5: be in the tutorials and join the courses. But unless
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  Speaker 5: you're in complete chaotic insanity and you don't start to
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  Speaker 5: bring the stuff in, there's no point. Like you're just
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  Speaker 5: on the kind of little rat wheel. What do you
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  Speaker 5: call it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thats the rat race.
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  Speaker 3: That's also another reason why I wanted to do this,
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  Speaker 3: because I've bought so many self help books of my life,
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  Speaker 3: and I know all the shit to do, but just
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  Speaker 3: sometimes implementing it is kind of hard. And you're right,
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  Speaker 3: it's so sad that we have to have like these
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  Speaker 3: life awakening moments, you know, whether it's a family member
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  Speaker 3: getting really unwell.
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  Speaker 2: Or you lose your house or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: When people are really stared with what reality is, that's
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  Speaker 3: when they're like, oh, fuck, I don't have long to
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  Speaker 3: live and I mean to live and.
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  Speaker 2: I can't waste another second.
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  Speaker 5: And like what am I doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: And how am I eating? And how am I moving?
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  Speaker 5: And how am I turning up for my family? And
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  Speaker 5: how am I working? And like like we are just
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  Speaker 5: in this autopilot of life happening to us, and no
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  Speaker 5: one actually stops until you're forced to stop, which is
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  Speaker 5: a health scare or a death or like a crumbling
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  Speaker 5: and you're like, oh my god, I have to change.
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  Speaker 5: I can't smoke anymore, I can't drink like I like
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  Speaker 5: all of the things. But really, I guess what I'm
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  Speaker 5: trying to teach my community at a RISE is like,
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  Speaker 5: we don't need to get to breaking point to change, Like,
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  Speaker 5: we can bring in really incredible mini habits to change
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  Speaker 5: your life, and it will change your life and you
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  Speaker 5: can have these realizations now and not at seventy, you know,
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  Speaker 5: on the rocking chair. I feel like I'm very aligned
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  Speaker 5: with your podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was looking at some of your videos on
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  Speaker 3: the Rise page today and there was that caught my eye,
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  Speaker 3: and it was so funny because this woman was talking
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  Speaker 3: to you about the importance of starting your day with
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  Speaker 3: something positive and how that will set you up for
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  Speaker 3: a more positive experience.
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  Speaker 2: Not necessarily bring you more.
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  Speaker 3: Positivity, but you'll be more aware of the positive things
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  Speaker 3: that happened to you. So I watched that video and
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  Speaker 3: then that second I've got it into practice, right, And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, okay, you're right, because wake up
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  Speaker 3: in like a stressed mode, right, and I know I
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  Speaker 3: should be more mindful.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna say the mantra,
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  Speaker 2: what if everything.
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  Speaker 3: Just wiked out? What if everything just wicks out? What
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  Speaker 3: if everything just wixs at? And I keep saying that
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  Speaker 3: and then no shits away. I walk outside the house
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  Speaker 3: and there was this rainbow just going over our house,
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  Speaker 3: like it was the perfect rainbow.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I got a chill zoeing that,
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  Speaker 2: and then it just stayed.
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  Speaker 3: There for our ages and I was like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 3: that in itself is just one of those moments.
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  Speaker 5: And so there is science behind this, because my program
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  Speaker 5: is backed by neuroscience. There's science behind starting your day
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  Speaker 5: with a declaration, an affirmation, a positive headspace like it.
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  Speaker 2: It it's not just wore woolshit, No.
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  Speaker 5: It like impacts your RAS system. Your RA system is
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  Speaker 5: your rearticular activation system. And what that does is we
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  Speaker 5: are consuming so much information all the time as humans.
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  Speaker 5: We are always scanning for information that makes us true
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  Speaker 5: or safe. So if you wake up and you're like
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  Speaker 5: life is hard, things are hard, and nothing works out
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  Speaker 5: for me, your RAP system is figuring out, Like I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure there was something underneath that rainbow, like there was
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  Speaker 5: a traffic jam or there was this, or that was that,
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  Speaker 5: and you were like, okay, but I see the rainbow
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  Speaker 5: in the traffic jem and I see the rainbow.
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  Speaker 3: And then moment I was like, oh my god, because
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  Speaker 3: I'm so guilty of just like back in the day,
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  Speaker 3: I felt like I was bitter at embodying all these
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  Speaker 3: things that I believed, like having all these retchalks.
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  Speaker 2: But it's so easy to get caught back.
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  Speaker 3: Up and that like we as you talk about, and
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  Speaker 3: I know there's so many beautiful things that I miss
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  Speaker 3: out on. So it was it was quite like a
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  Speaker 3: powerful moment where I was like, you cannot afford to
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  Speaker 3: miss all of this beauty and magic, because that's what
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  Speaker 3: it's all about.
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  Speaker 5: And we do become addicted very immediately to our to
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  Speaker 5: do lists and our needs and our children's needs and
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  Speaker 5: the work and like. But the thing is, which is
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  Speaker 5: so funny and very humbling, is the world doesn't end
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  Speaker 5: if you didn't do the grocery shop, or if the
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  Speaker 5: child is like the school, or if you didn't have
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  Speaker 5: as many talking points for the radio show, like it
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  Speaker 5: just doesn't like maybe eventually you'll lose your job if
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  Speaker 5: you don't keep.
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  Speaker 2: Doing it over and over.
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  Speaker 5: But I think we start to lose. We are putting
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  Speaker 5: things in a very important category that aren't and we're
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  Speaker 5: putting ourselves and our mental health and our move movement
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  Speaker 5: and our conversations as like something at the bottom of
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  Speaker 5: the barrels too. When I've put the kids to bed
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  Speaker 5: and I lay on the couch and I'm scrolling on
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  Speaker 5: TikTok and watching a show at the same time, like
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  Speaker 5: it just we're responsible, And I don't think that anyone
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  Speaker 5: can like victimize themselves because we all have the ability,
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  Speaker 5: like we really do.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so give me some really great ways things that
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  Speaker 3: we can do to weave into our day to encourage
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  Speaker 3: that presence.
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  Speaker 5: I think firstly, this isn't like a quick hit. This
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  Speaker 5: isn't like winning the lotto. This isn't like a pyramid
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  Speaker 5: scheme marketing thing where you may keeps of money, and like,
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  Speaker 5: no one is going to do this for you, and
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  Speaker 5: it is going to require commitment to yourself. But I
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  Speaker 5: can tell you the people that we look up to,
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  Speaker 5: the celebrities or the entrepreneurs or the billion dollar business people,
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  Speaker 5: have such integrity with their routines to themselves. So I
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  Speaker 5: say to everyone in the course, especially when you're starting,
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  Speaker 5: get up thirty minutes before you usually do right, And
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  Speaker 5: that's really hard if you've got kids and you're getting
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  Speaker 5: up at five instead of five thirty, right, but go
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  Speaker 5: to bed earlier and in that thirty minutes you have
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  Speaker 5: the ability to create a declaration when you're in an
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  Speaker 5: alpha state, that awake state, right to program your rust system.
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  Speaker 5: You can do some some I want to say human users.
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  Speaker 5: I want to say it's called like horizon gazing, but
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  Speaker 5: it's when you look out and you're kind of balancing
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  Speaker 5: your circadian rhythm, which is going to really support your sleep.
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  Speaker 5: You can either journal or meditate, whichever feels better for you.
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  Speaker 5: Move and stretch, eat, Like if you do like two
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  Speaker 5: of those six things, you're already setting yourself up right.
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  Speaker 5: So when the kids get up, they're like on, they're
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  Speaker 5: like ready, and you're gonna be a better parent. You're
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  Speaker 5: going to be more patient, You're gonna be able to
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  Speaker 5: listen to them. They're having a tantrum because they want
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  Speaker 5: the blue cup not the red cup. You're like, I
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  Speaker 5: really understand, I get it. Fuck, I really like the
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  Speaker 5: red cup too, But you won't be just like pulling
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  Speaker 5: them out the door. Oh maybe you will, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But I think that starting your day for yourself and
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  Speaker 5: allowing yourself to set intentions rather than the day catch
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  Speaker 5: you up is really important. And then there are a
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  Speaker 5: million other things that we can bring in, Like you
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  Speaker 5: really got to be serious about what you're consuming, how
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  Speaker 5: much water you're drinking. Are you a caffeinated person and
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  Speaker 5: you're relying on stimulants? Are you getting your nourishment in
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  Speaker 5: like where little like organisms we need to be bed
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  Speaker 5: and watered and s And I think it's like looking
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  Speaker 5: at basics, are you moving every day? And then like
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  Speaker 5: how do you see the world and what are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: So co creation, how I teach it isn't wish for
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  Speaker 5: thinking that a ferrari is going to end up at
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  Speaker 5: your doorstep just because you put it on your vision board.
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  Speaker 5: It's like what am I doing today? What actions am
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  Speaker 5: I taking to be magnetic to what I want? And
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  Speaker 5: so like I had a real doozy of a day
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  Speaker 5: on Thursday. It was like our fucking doozy, horrendous jet lag.
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  Speaker 5: I hadn't slept at all, bench had food poisoning. My
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: nanny was off. One of my favorite favorite teammates within
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  Speaker 5: my business resigned. A lawyer needed a very specific information
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  Speaker 5: from me, my account wanted to have a really hard conversation.
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  Speaker 5: My dog vomited. I couldn't. I couldn't. My daughter was like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like at me. And so it was a
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  Speaker 5: real moment of like, that doesn't just kick a person
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  Speaker 5: into doing that, kicks you into like safety seeking, behavior
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  Speaker 5: finding security. And I went into my my autopilot, which
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  Speaker 5: is like fix everything now, like blinkers on, don't talk
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  Speaker 5: to me. I'm going to solve all the world's problems
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  Speaker 5: in this moment. And then my husband was like, you're
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  Speaker 5: not okay. I was like, I'm really not okay. Like
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  Speaker 5: a lot is happening, and we have this beautiful session.
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  Speaker 5: We had this workshop within the community that night, which
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: was such perfect timing, and within this workshop, I was
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: able to explore what it would look like if I
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: did things differently like that way of like tunnel vision,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: getting a everything done, fixing it all in one day
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: and stressing myself out. I've done for forty years, So
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: what would the other way look like. I saw benj
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: my husband, downstairs, after this workshop, and I said listen.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: I know I was in a wild state when you
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: saw me. I need you to know that I'm going
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: to practice something and tomorrow I am not going to
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: do anything about those things I've already like literally shot off.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: I've taken so much action today to put out ten fires.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: But tomorrow I'm not going to chase like the fire engine.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to allow the action that I've taken
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: to simmer and connect. I'm going to go to the beach,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: nice beach. I take my daughter to the beach, and
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: I am physically going to take myself out of where
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: I want to be with fixing. And it was in
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: those moments, and that's what I said at the beginning
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: of this, which was when the shit hits the fan,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: what learnings and what practices are you putting into place?
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Because we go to the place we feel the safest,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: we don't go to the place which we have the
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: greatest growth. And so I took my own advice and
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I went to the beach and I did that stuff,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: and then I realized, with a bit of space, you
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: have a bit of clarity that I was like, oh
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: my god, this colleague leaving is the best thing for
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: us and it hurts because I love them, but you
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: would never have let them go. You would never and
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: this is holding the business back. What are you going
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: to do? And so now on Monday morning, I have
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: three incredible business strategists that are like the whole thing
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: has just come together because there's been space and I've
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: done something implemented the growth without kind of that habitual.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: You know, I wanted wine. I wanted heaps of wine.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: I wanted to eat heaps of chips, and I wanted to.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Did you do any of that or did you just
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: go to the beach?
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I just went to the beach and then I went
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: for a walk and it was like this is so
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: fucked being woke, Like how boring. And then on the
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: weekend I definitely had two glasses of red wine. That's
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: me being really wild. And I've woken up today no
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: jet lag and just like I just am excited, like
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: I did all my practices this morning.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I'm back.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And only it doesn't have to You don't have
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: to spial for six months, like you can like do
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: this in a day.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: With manifestations, people often talk about not forcing, not forcing,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: not forcing. You took a step back from there, and
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you just allowed, and then all of a sudden it
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: was yeah, in.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Mantra, it was like, let go let God, you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: trust trust for us. But that's really hard for like
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: a control freak. Even as a manifestation master like you,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: still it's just a humbling experience because you never graduate
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: from this stuff. Your life is just impacted by different
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: situations and circumstances where you just keep leveling up and
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: it's a beautiful life, like it's an extraordinary life. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: what you see a success and what I see a
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: success and the person listening are so vastly different. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not playing the game anymore for whatever anybody else
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: thinks is successful.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: For me, God, I get so caught up in there,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And I think that I'm bigger than that, or you know,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: mature enough to like see past it. But I still
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: compare myself to so many people, and I'm like, why
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the hell am I comparing myself to her? I don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: actually want to be like her, but I'm still comparing myself.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: But if you didn't want what she had, why you
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: compare exactly?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but because there must be an answer.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: There's got to be something I don't know, because I
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: feel like they've got more success than me, and I
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: feel like I could be doing that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: But then I'm like, no, but I don't want to
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: be doing that. Do you know what I mean?
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: But do you think that their peers are looking at
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: them like, oh, they're more successful than Polly.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: No one, No one's looking at it like that my brain,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: or like.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Are they thinking, you know, Polly chose to live out
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: in the wilderness and chose peace, and I'm still here
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: doing the rat race thing like Polly's got success. I
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: don't I want that. Do you know what I mean?
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's the rose ten of glasses, It's the grass
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: is always greener mentality. And I want to know do
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: you have an answer on how to get out of it?
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: I think we need to get really really clear on
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: what we want and why we want it. And if
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: you come from a place of ego where I want
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: what she has or I want that job, because then
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: my peers think, or my mum think, or I'll drive
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: a Lamborghini and hot chicks will like me. Versus I
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: want to do work that I feel passionate and purposeful,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: and I want to be living a life in integrity
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: and of service to others are two very different things.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Like it's okay to want fancy shit because our ego
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: is always running in the background and we want people
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: to give us a compliment or acknowledge us or make
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: us seen like it's very human. But that's fine on
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: like a superficial level when we're talking about like our
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: life path and our purpose, like get really clear on why.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Because when we go back to that whole point of
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: like feeling the feeling of being the most successful version
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: of yourself, right, if you're living that feeling, walking as
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: if you're that person, talking as if you're that person,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: you're going to be a t tracting so many opportunities
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: and people and places and things and serendipitous moments that
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: meet you there when it's in truth versus ego. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: so it's like you can keep trying to out smart
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: yourself or you can just like surrender your options.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, And when you get into those mindset's this such
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: roadblocks and obstacles to actually getting what you want, Like
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: they're just fucking waste of time, waste.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Of time, And you think you want the push right, yes,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: and then you get it and you realize no one
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: is looking at you in your push, no one gives
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: a shit about you and your push, like they really don't,
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: and the people that do, like, you know what I mean.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I remember when I was in Australia and I was
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: on billboards and I was like, really good work, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I just remember going, as I say, I was like
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I find o this river, this is not going to
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: be this, Like there was such a big part of
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: me that didn't feel that deep sense of fulfillment, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: like that was confronting to a lot of people. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: think they were like, why would you step away when
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: you're in you know, this position? And I was like,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I can't really explain it, but I just got to
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: go home and I got to ground my roads. And
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: you're like, you've got to follow those nudges.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: And I think that people see that as successful when
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: you're not being dictated to by what society is you
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: should have and you're following your truth, even if that
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: looks crazy, like like living in this beautiful home and
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: not wanting it anymore because it's too much, and you
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: don't know it's too much, but until you're in it
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: and going like I want something that is enough not
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: too much, like it's weird for people are not okay,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: and that's okay because they're not in the same place
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: as you, and you just have to be like you
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: will be confront for people because they are being mirrored
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: what is actually drinking back to them And that's not
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: your problem. You just have to be in your truth.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So you're going to get a tiny home and like
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to rural New Zealand.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Next to you fighting for your radio job.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: So I've seen you talk about the importance of boundaries,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: particularly over the last couple of years.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Can you talk through that, like, how does that look
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: for you? Saying no? As a former people pleaser.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Oh my god. Like I had Terry Cole, who is
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: like the boundary master, come on board and take us
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: through it. And I think it's just such an interesting thing,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: especially raising a little girl to you know, what we're
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: like as women and how we were raised as children
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: in the eighties and nineties is such a impact on
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: our boundaries sexually, with consent, with work, with like signing
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: off your email's kiss kiss, like like all of the
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: stuff as a woman and boundaries versus even bringing in
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: you know, men into the equation and how they do
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: boundaries that just seem so much more adequate than we are.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: But boundaries. So I'm writing a book. It's in its
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: almost at its final edit and hard it's my first deal.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so great.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Congratulations, thank you. It's such a wonderful experience. But this,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: this whole I have this whole chapter around boundaries because
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: it's almost like, and I explain it like this, like
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: having a door, bitch right to your energy and to yourself.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: And you are a exquisite like very very elevated club.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: You know, like we're talking, you just can't get in.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: You need like a membership, you need who's who, like
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: it is like the Kram Dela Cram. And then you've
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: got drunks out in the middle of the night trying
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: to get into your club. It's like, no, they're going
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: to come in, piss on the walls, have punch up,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: smash all the glasses, like absolutely not, Like this is
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: a sacred place. Boundaries are for us. It looks like
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: we're putting a boundary there for somebody else, but they
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: are for us. And when we say unfortunately, I'm out
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: of office from three pm every day and the emails
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: keep coming and you get back to them on a
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Monday and they're like, hey, you didn't get back to
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: my emails. Yeah, it really clearly states that I'm out
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: of office from three pm without an explanation. When a
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: family member wants to come over and see your newborn
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: baby but they're sick, and you're like, sorry, we're not
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: having visitors for this week and next, and i'd really
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: appreciate it if you could let me know when you're
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: well and then we'll organize a time that suits us.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: You know, like all of these things, it's not people
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: see it as being rude. It's not being rude. It's
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: allowing people to understand your standards and what you require
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: in life. People think that I am very particular neurotic,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: and some of those things are true, but I also
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: have exceptional standards for myself and then for everybody else.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: If you're in my orbit, and if you're not, like
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: I don't mind, but if you're working with me or
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: if we're friends, there is a quality that I expect
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: and that I will return in favor. And I think
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: the boundaries help that. And I'm really willing, like I
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: love other people's boundaries. When I see someone like set
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: a boundary. I'm like, fuck, that's hot. I'm so sexy
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: for them, Like I like respect, you have self respect,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: So I mean you want more information. The whole workshop
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: gives you like play by play on how to set
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: a boundary. But this also will come up in moments
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: that feel deeply uncomfortable, where you will people please when
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: you really should set a boundary.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: And so how do you how do you prevent that?
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Like when it is an in this like spur of
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: the moment kind of thing and someone's there and you're
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: like not prepared for it, because I guess with boundaries,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: sometimes people can be ready to reply with an email
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: or whatever. But if someone comes up and they ask
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: something in your face and you're like, like the people
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: pleaser might want to come out.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: But of course I would say, like, if we're going
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: from full on people pleasing to boundaries, there's like an evolution.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: I would ask for time. I would say like, oh,
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: that's a really interesting question. Could I get back to
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: you on that, not in a in five minutes or
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: in a day. Can I get back to you on that.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: That's a really kind way to pause yourself. Then you
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: could reflect and go like oh, no, I could have
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: said thank you so much for the opportunity, it just
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: doesn't fit for me. Or unfortunately I can't stay back
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: today I have some commitments, you know. Or unfortunately my
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: contracts I end every day five o'clock. I won't be
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: staying back. But we can negotiate if you wanted to
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: explore something further. So I think to start with us
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: for time and then reflect on what you really wanted
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: to say, and then always lead with kindness. It's like
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: being really firm but being really kind.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: And how has life changed since you've been better at
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: sitting these boundaries?
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Like you just have so much more time you can't
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: like life is too short to do things you feel
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: obligated to do unless you're in a contract.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't really get out of that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Look, I'm really in this transitional evolution even with friendships
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: with family members, Like, really, I'm doing some big stuff,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: ending some big relationships that have required endings for a
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: long time that I haven't been able to do out
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: of obligation. And you don't. No one deserves anything from
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: you if they're not meeting you. And it feels so good.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that there are parts of me like
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: the shadowy parts of myself that don't miss them, you know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: and the comfort of certain parts of the relationship. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: the commitment to myself is more important than that.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: M I love that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: So how would you describe how life feels right now
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: for you?
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Really exciting? Thursday wasn't so exciting. Today is really exciting.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: There is a lot of movement, there's a lot of change,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: but I am so willing to evolve, and just I
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: think I've had that weird, you know, society impact on
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: me where I have to keep scaling and growing and scaling,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: and now I'm just like, no, no, I'm just.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Gonna I'm going to downsize.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, the quality of what I've got out there is
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: so high, it's ever green. We don't I don't need
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: need to do more without that happening really organically.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Or if there was a quote that you live by,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: or you think there's a quote that is such a
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: good mantra for one's life, does one pop to the
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: top of your head.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: I've got one. We had to we did this for
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: the book, and I was like, asking you shall receive
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: and it's actually that quote is actually in the Bible,
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: And so we had to like reference the Bible, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: then they were like, you're definitely setting the wrong tone
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: the book. So I removed asking you shah receive to
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: whether you think it's true or not? Hang on, it's
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: oh my god, where do you think it? What do
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: you think it's true or not?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: You're right right?
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is some of one like that, like whether
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: you think you can or not, you're right right as well.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I love that because it's the same thing.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: There's too many like I love let go or be dragged.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: That's one of my favoritess therapist because she's my therapist,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: is like a psychologist, but she's definitely spiritually inclined. We
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: had this real we had an amazing session and we
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: kind of I guess I said that and she's kept
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: it forever as a reminder to me. Is like, you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: you can choose the hard way or the easy way,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: it's still going to be the way.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Oh that's good.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Good for someone who's in a bit of a rut
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: at the moment, feeling like they're not loving their best
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: life and there's so much more that they want to
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: be achieving.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: They just feel like they're kind of stuck. Do you
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: have any advice to get out of that rut?
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, join the membership, use me to your disposus,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: come in something really seriously though, within that community is
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: having people around you to inspire you. We call them rises,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and they're people that show, like you know how you
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: were like comparing yourself to the girl at the radio station,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: being able to transform her into if you wanted that
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: you didn't want that, right, but say that you did.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Transforming that envy into someone that stretches you, that you
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: can talk to, that you're inspired by, is such an
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: amazing way. And within the community, you have all these
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: people every day going, oh my god, I'm stuck, I'm
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: in a rut, and you have someone else coming up
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: with this helped me? Or did you try this or
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: this meditation is amazing? Or did you do the Inner
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Child workshop? And then you've got people that are there
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: to champion you. You've got people there that can help
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: you do priming phone calls. Like I think staying accountable
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: is the biggest thing. It's kind of like a gym
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: work membership or losing weight or doing something new. You
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: have to have accountability. And that's why I created the
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: community is because and I'm talking about the Arise community
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: is because when I was in this ten years ago
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: and there was no one doing it, it's so hard
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: to stay committed and to believe. And even when you've
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: called in everything and you've taken the aligned action and
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: you've done everything, and you're in the abyss, which is
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: the time where we wait for the manifestation to occur,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: it's hard. Bit I hate the most, and so having
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: being in a space that's safe and you can just
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: be like, I am dying here, like my patience is
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: running out what I do and they're like, go back
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: to trust, go back to gratitude, do like, go back
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: to the work. It's such a help helpful thing because
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: when you're out on your loan like an Island and
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  Speaker 5: you're in the abuse, You're like, it doesn't work. Fuck
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: this ship. I'm going back to my old job that
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I hate. So yeah, I've created the thing I needed
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: the most, and it's it's very impactful.
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  Speaker 3: So people can find that just if we want to
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  Speaker 3: do a little fluggy blood plug.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's I think, oh my gosh, I should notice.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a rise dot com dot a U
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  Speaker 5: A R double I S E or on Instagram, it's
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: a rise A RI I double A S E Underscore
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  Speaker 5: Underscot underscore because I fucked up the first did you
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  Speaker 5: charge of that?
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  Speaker 3: Come on, guys, guys, that's why you act like you're
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: terrible and then no one asks you to do things.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: It's a good, good technician, accomplishent woman.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm going to wrap this podcast up with
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: some advice that you would give to your younger self. Say, Zoe,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: is it early twenties, she's just finding her.
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  Speaker 2: Way through life. What would be the biggest.
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  Speaker 3: Negative wisdom that you would in part on younger Zo.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to get really really bad and then it's
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: going to get really really good. So just have faith
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  Speaker 5: when you want to give up, but it gets really good.
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  Speaker 5: Like just trust.
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  Speaker 3: So beautiful, Zoe, and so nice to reconnect with you today.
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  Speaker 2: I just love because you talk about.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Evolving and how you love growth and all of that,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: and I just feel like every time I see you,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: you're like an upgraded version of yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 5: That'd be terrible if I'd like gone backwards, right, You'd
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: be like, what a disappointment, No, but.
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  Speaker 2: You are, But like you grow.
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  Speaker 3: You're just constantly shifting with putting a challenge is to
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  Speaker 3: throw in your way, and I always look at you
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  Speaker 3: as an inspiration. So thank you so much for coming
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  Speaker 3: on the podcas Us today.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, beautiful girl. I can't wait to see you
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  Speaker 5: in real life one day. Ah.
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  Speaker 2: That was my chat with Zolley.
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  Speaker 3: I really hope you enjoyed it. Love to know what
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: you got out of that conversation the most. I think
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: some of my big takeaways were they're getting up thirty
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: minutes earlier. It sounds like such a simple one, but
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  Speaker 3: even when she put it like, oh, if you've got
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: to be tired, got to be thirty minutes earlier.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you have to be.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Strict on sleep. Like sleep at the end of the
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: day is it runs us like honestly, we have to
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: get strict on it. And I I'm, for one, am
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: very guilty at staying up too late watching TV, particularly lately,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: So that was a really good reminder for me. And
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: also I loved when she was talking about being the
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: gatekeeper for your energy and being ruthless and really setting
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the boundaries of who gets to come into your life, which,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: as she said, it sounds you know it can sound
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: quite brash and rude and brutal, but I mean, if
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: you want to give the best version of yourself, you
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: have to get really clear on who you want to
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: bring into your world. And then finally, I really liked
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: that story when she hit that really shitty day and
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: just letting go when she hits the fan, instead of
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: trying to fix everything and going into just the biggest
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: state of overwhelm, actually removing yourself from that situation and
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: going to the beach, going for a walk, whatever it is,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: just getting out of that moment where the world feels
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: like it's falling in or the sky feels like it's
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: falling in, and actually stepping back gives.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: You the other perspective.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: So I really liked that not trying to push it
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: in those situations and just taking a deep breath and
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: realizing it's actually not the end of the world. But
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I would love to know what you got out of
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the chat this week, and you can help me up
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: on Instagram PJDJ see me a little message. I'd love
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: to know of any other people you think would be
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: great to get on for Slow It Down. Thank you
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: so much for joining me for my first episode. I
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: really appreciate it, and I'll see you next week.