Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #1217 - The Doctor's Desk: What Makes a ‘Favourite' Child?
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- 0:05Speaker 1: What makes a favorite child? Do you have a favorite child?
- 0:08Speaker 1: Are you were allowed to say that you have a
- 0:09Speaker 1: favorite child? What would happen if one of the children
- 0:12Speaker 1: found out that they were or were not the favorite child.
- 0:17Speaker 1: We're tackling the big issues in today's Doctor's Desk episode
- 0:19Speaker 1: of The Happy Family's podcast, We're So Glad You're joining
- 0:21Speaker 1: us Real parenting Solutions every day on Australia's most downloaded
- 0:25Speaker 1: parenting podcast, we are Justin and Kylie Coulson. Kylie, were
- 0:29Speaker 1: you the favorite child and your family?
- 0:31Speaker 2: I can't answer that will incriminate me.
- 0:33Speaker 1: No, but really were you? Do you think you were?
- 0:35Speaker 1: You're one of three sisters. Well, you've got an older
- 0:37Speaker 1: half sister as well.
- 0:39Speaker 2: My sisters would all say that I was.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Really do do you believe that? Did you feel that?
- 0:44Speaker 2: I'm going to push back really hard on this whole
- 0:46Speaker 2: favoritism thing because I don't think it's about favoritism. But
- 0:49Speaker 2: I think that I think that we have individual relationships
- 0:54Speaker 2: with people, whether it's our children or whether it's our
- 0:58Speaker 2: friends or acquaintances, doesn't mean that we favorite like I
- 1:03Speaker 2: just I push against it.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Ask me, were you the favorite? I have no idea
- 1:09Speaker 1: and I think that's how it should be. What I
- 1:11Speaker 1: would hope is that everyone I'm the oldest of six kids,
- 1:14Speaker 1: and I would just hope that all of my siblings
- 1:17Speaker 1: feel like they were the favorite child. I don't necessarily
- 1:20Speaker 1: feel that I am the favorite, but I certainly don't
- 1:23Speaker 1: feel like I'm not the favorite. Does that make sense.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, But you can talk to pretty much anyone and
- 1:29Speaker 2: at some point in their lives they felt like they
- 1:31Speaker 2: weren't the favorite.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Though I was sixteen of being really rude to my parents,
- 1:34Speaker 1: I was definitely not the favorite at that point.
- 1:37Speaker 2: So this is why I push against it, because when
- 1:40Speaker 2: I look at the dynamics in our home, at different times,
- 1:42Speaker 2: different children have needed more of us. And it's very
- 1:46Speaker 2: easy to look from the outside and say, oh, she's
- 1:50Speaker 2: your favorite because you're giving her all the time and attention.
- 1:52Speaker 2: But it's got nothing to do with that. It's got
- 1:54Speaker 2: everything to do with having a needs based approach, and
- 1:59Speaker 2: at this point in time, whether it be health or
- 2:01Speaker 2: emotions or just time, this child needs more.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Whenever really cool research lands on my desk, we talk
- 2:10Speaker 1: about it on the Happy Families podcast. There's a brand
- 2:13Speaker 1: new study just published in the last month or so.
- 2:15Speaker 1: In a Psychological Bulletin. Psychological Bulletin is a highly regarded
- 2:20Speaker 1: psychological journal, and this one is called Parents Favor Daughters
- 2:25Speaker 1: a meta Analysis of Gender and Other Predictors of Parental
- 2:28Speaker 1: differential treatment meta analysis. It's a study of all the studies.
- 2:33Speaker 2: So well, that means we've got six favorites.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Then we have six daughters, so therefore they're all the
- 2:39Speaker 1: favorite I know. The researchers had to look at thirty
- 2:42Speaker 1: peer review journal articles and dissertations and theses and fourteen
- 2:45Speaker 1: other databases. In all, they looked at nearly twenty thousand
- 2:49Speaker 1: unique participants in all these studies about favoritism, talking to
- 2:52Speaker 1: the kids, talking to the parents, the studies, trying to
- 2:55Speaker 1: work out how favoritism works. Here's the very short version
- 2:59Speaker 1: of a very big and very carefully conducted study in
- 3:03Speaker 1: a highly regarded journal. Results showed that when favoritism was
- 3:07Speaker 1: based on autonomy and control, that is, a parents able
- 3:11Speaker 1: to sort of just enjoy the kids without having to
- 3:15Speaker 1: be heavily involved in their lives, then parents tended to
- 3:18Speaker 1: favor older siblings, which makes sense.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Right, It's almost hands off parenting.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Yeah, when you've got an eight year old middle childhood
- 3:24Speaker 1: doing pretty well, and then you've got a three year
- 3:28Speaker 1: old who is tearing the house apart and you've got
- 3:29Speaker 1: to lift everything up up high and put it on
- 3:31Speaker 1: the high shelves. Well, maybe that's an eighteen month old,
- 3:34Speaker 1: but you kind of you love that eighteen month old.
- 3:36Speaker 1: But they're really needy, they're really whiny, they always want
- 3:38Speaker 1: to be picked up and carried. And you've got this
- 3:40Speaker 1: eight year old who's just nailing nailing life. It's like,
- 3:44Speaker 1: you get it, you're raizing. I mean, it's going to
- 3:46Speaker 1: get worse than a few years. And then you're like
- 3:48Speaker 1: the younger one because the But essentially, we really like
- 3:51Speaker 1: it when the kids can function autonomously, when we don't
- 3:55Speaker 1: have to be too controlling over their lives. I should
- 3:57Speaker 1: share this with my mom. I'm turning fifty this year.
- 4:00Speaker 1: You're still trying to tell me what to do. Maybe
- 4:02Speaker 1: I'm not the favorite after all. So here's where it
- 4:05Speaker 1: gets really interesting. The research showed that parents tend to
- 4:08Speaker 1: report favoring daughters. And I think that's because there's a
- 4:12Speaker 1: general rule. I mean, I'm writing this book, I'm finishing
- 4:14Speaker 1: my book about boys at the moment, and there's there's
- 4:17Speaker 1: a heaviness when people comment on social media about their
- 4:20Speaker 1: sons versus their daughters. Parents generally worry about their kids,
- 4:24Speaker 1: but when I talk to parents about their sons, there's
- 4:28Speaker 1: I don't know what the word is, Kylie, there's genuine concern.
- 4:32Speaker 1: There's but what if my son X, Y or Z
- 4:35Speaker 1: in a way that parents don't worry about their daughters.
- 4:38Speaker 1: It's it's tangible, it's it's palpable. Can you can feel
- 4:42Speaker 1: it in the discussions. So the research showed that our
- 4:45Speaker 1: parents are favoring their daughters more than their sons. And
- 4:48Speaker 1: here it is in terms of personality attributes. Conscientious kids
- 4:53Speaker 1: and agreeable kids definitely receiving more of the favored treatment.
- 5:00Speaker 1: And I think that's probably why you were the favorite,
- 5:02Speaker 1: because you were always a conscientious contributor to the home.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Conscientiousness is this character trait of doing the things that
- 5:12Speaker 1: you say you're going to do. It's just being around
- 5:15Speaker 1: and being present. Agreeableness it means that you're not creating
- 5:17Speaker 1: fights and contention. Now that makes sense that these are
- 5:20Speaker 1: the kids that parents like more than the slightly neurotic children,
- 5:26Speaker 1: the slightly extroverted and over the top kids.
- 5:31Speaker 2: This is where I push back again because that's such
- 5:34Speaker 2: a shallow perception. Oh really, I honestly, I feel like
- 5:41Speaker 2: just because your child is challenging and just because there's
- 5:48Speaker 2: a lot of pushback, doesn't.
- 5:50Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that they're not your favorite.
- 5:52Speaker 2: No.
- 5:53Speaker 1: No, I like my kids that I fight with the most.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying.
- 5:56Speaker 2: No, that's not what I'm saying. But I'm not saying.
- 5:58Speaker 2: I'm also not saying that because my kids agreeable, they're
- 6:01Speaker 2: my favorite, they're easier to spend time with.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Yeah, more conscientious children had relatively less conflict with their parents,
- 6:08Speaker 1: so therefore they were perceived either by the parents or
- 6:10Speaker 1: the child as being the more preferred child as a
- 6:13Speaker 1: result of the reduced conflict. That's really what the researchers
- 6:16Speaker 1: are getting up there. That's what the findings are. So
- 6:20Speaker 1: the short version is this, kids that are conscientious, kids
- 6:23Speaker 1: that are agreeable, kids that are female who do often
- 6:25Speaker 1: tend to be conscientious and agreeable relative to males anyway,
- 6:29Speaker 1: And kids who are older tend to be more favored
- 6:31Speaker 1: than kids who are younger. After the break, we're going
- 6:33Speaker 1: to tell you how to not fall into the favoritism trap,
- 6:35Speaker 1: because research is pretty clear that if you are a
- 6:39Speaker 1: non favored child, that there are all kinds of social,
- 6:43Speaker 1: psychological and self esteem issues that can follow. All right, Kylie,
- 6:54Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of ideas for how we can
- 6:56Speaker 1: help parents to not esteem one child more highly than
- 6:59Speaker 1: the other. I have this activity that I do with educators.
- 7:03Speaker 1: I do an emotional intelligence workshop. It's probably my most
- 7:06Speaker 1: popular workshop. And around about sort of forty five to
- 7:10Speaker 1: fifty minutes in we're talking about the idea of self awareness,
- 7:13Speaker 1: and I ask a question, Think about the students that
- 7:17Speaker 1: you understand the least. Think about the students that you
- 7:21Speaker 1: understand the most. How do you respond to them differently?
- 7:24Speaker 1: What's your body language? How do you treat them differently?
- 7:26Speaker 1: Think about the things that you talk to them about
- 7:28Speaker 1: and how much you talk to them, all that kind
- 7:30Speaker 1: of stuff. What's the difference between the students that you
- 7:32Speaker 1: understand the most and the ones you understand the least.
- 7:34Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. I used to have the word
- 7:37Speaker 1: like the most and like the least, but a bunch
- 7:39Speaker 1: of teachers said, oh no, no, we like them all, We
- 7:41Speaker 1: really really truly like them all. And I'm like, yeah, whatever,
- 7:44Speaker 1: because some kids are really really tricky in a class
- 7:46Speaker 1: of thirty. But I change the word from like to understand,
- 7:50Speaker 1: and I feel like this is a critical contributor to
- 7:54Speaker 1: our conversation about favoritism. You're just much more likely to
- 7:58Speaker 1: get along better with the kids that you understand. And
- 8:01Speaker 1: studies show that when you understand someone, slash like them.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Your body language, your posture, you're like contact. You're totally you,
- 8:10Speaker 1: completely open, Your sentences are longer less clipped, you're less
- 8:14Speaker 1: direct and abrupt, less directive and corrective, and more.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Times than not, you're actually you actually look for opportunities
- 8:21Speaker 2: to connect.
- 8:22Speaker 1: So I guess my first major point here is that
- 8:26Speaker 1: if you're concerned that you could be slipping into a
- 8:28Speaker 1: I prefer this child over that child trap, which does
- 8:31Speaker 1: have tremendously big impacts on their self esteem across across
- 8:36Speaker 1: time and throughout life. Start to wonder about look at
- 8:40Speaker 1: how you understand them differently, which one do you understand
- 8:42Speaker 1: better and which one less? And lean into the one
- 8:45Speaker 1: that you understand least. Find ways to understand them better.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I think it'll make a difference. The way I would
- 8:51Speaker 1: say it is see their hearts.
- 8:53Speaker 2: What's your second suggestion?
- 8:55Speaker 1: Times and seasons? So we're currently raising our fifteen year
- 9:01Speaker 1: old daughter. Well, she turns fifteen in a couple of weeks,
- 9:03Speaker 1: but it feels like she's been fifteen throughout the last
- 9:05Speaker 1: three years now. And the reality is that there are
- 9:11Speaker 1: some times in life that are just harder than others.
- 9:14Speaker 1: So most people would generally agree that the toddle years
- 9:16Speaker 1: are tricky, And most people would generally agree that that
- 9:20Speaker 1: time frame from around fourteen through fifteen, maybe even sixteen, I.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Reckon I'd take toddlerhood over teenagehood.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Sure, But if you haven't had teams before and you're
- 9:31Speaker 1: dealing with your first toddler, I think it's really really hard. Right.
- 9:35Speaker 1: So the second thing that I want to emphasize is
- 9:38Speaker 1: just that you might understand them better at sometimes than others.
- 9:41Speaker 1: They might be more agreeable at sometimes than others. They
- 9:44Speaker 1: might be just more inclined to get along a little
- 9:48Speaker 1: more at sometimes over others. So Times and Seasons is
- 9:52Speaker 1: my second one, and I only have one more idea.
- 9:55Speaker 1: The idea is this, we need to find joy. We
- 9:58Speaker 1: need to find ways to experience joy. Pleasant conversation is fun, activities, laughter, delight,
- 10:05Speaker 1: time to look into one another's eyes, the opportunity to
- 10:08Speaker 1: really understand one another. We need to find joy in
- 10:11Speaker 1: our relationships, and that means time time together. And when
- 10:16Speaker 1: you spend that time, it's really hard for kids to
- 10:18Speaker 1: feel like they're not the favorite because you're spending time
- 10:21Speaker 1: with them.
- 10:22Speaker 2: For a parent who's really struggling with a child, the idea.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Of it, I love how you said, a parent who's
- 10:26Speaker 1: really struggling with a chore. That's what it sounds like.
- 10:29Speaker 1: You're about to say, sorry, chaut child almost the same,
- 10:32Speaker 1: not quite.
- 10:34Speaker 2: The concept of finding joy with that child feels burdensome.
- 10:40Speaker 2: The reality is it really is about finding opportunities to
- 10:45Speaker 2: connect because joy will come with connection. But if we
- 10:50Speaker 2: make joy the focus, we might feel like we're failing miserably. Yeah.
- 10:54Speaker 1: I think that if you chase the happiness, if you're
- 10:56Speaker 1: really trying to make it happen, it doesn't tend to
- 10:59Speaker 1: happen that way. It feels here.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
- 11:01Speaker 1: But if you can just find a way to enjoy
- 11:05Speaker 1: time together or just be together, be together and do
- 11:09Speaker 1: things there are things that they want to do, they're
- 11:10Speaker 1: going to feel like they're the favorite because you're making
- 11:13Speaker 1: time in your day to spend that time with them.
- 11:16Speaker 1: So favoritism. It is a thing. It does have negative impacts.
- 11:19Speaker 1: We can overcome it if it's happening in our lives,
- 11:22Speaker 1: especially if we've got daughters who are definitely winning the
- 11:27Speaker 1: favoritism game. If you'd like more information about this particular
- 11:30Speaker 1: study will linked to it in the show notes. The
- 11:32Speaker 1: Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin Ruland from Bridge Media.
- 11:35Speaker 1: If you'd like a lot more info about how your
- 11:37Speaker 1: family can be happier, we've got all the resources you
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