Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Ghislaine Maxwell's Application For Bail (Part 2) (5/3/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
- 0:06left off with the Galaine Maxwell bail application. One. The
- 0:11conditions created by COVID nineteen pandemic mandate the release of
- 0:16Miss Maxwell. Impact of COVID nineteen on the prison population.
- 0:20We submit that the conditions created by the COVID nineteen
- 0:24pandemic canpel Miss Maxwell's release pursue into appropriate Belle conditions.
- 0:29Four months ago, this Court held in United States vs.
- 0:32Stevens fifteen Dash CR DASH ninety five AGN twenty twenty
- 0:38WL one two nine five to one five five SDNY
- 0:42March nineteenth, twenty twenty, that COVID nineteen is an unprecedented
- 0:47and extraordinarily dangerous threat that justifies release on bell. In
- 0:52that case, the defendant, who had no underlying medical conditions,
- 0:56filed an emergency motion for reconsideration of the Court's detention order,
- 1:01based in part on the risks brought by COVID nineteen.
- 1:05At the time, COVID nineteen had only begun to take
- 1:08its devastating toll on New York and there was no
- 1:11known outbreak in the prison population. Nevertheless, the Court noted
- 1:15that inmates maybe at a heightened risk of contracting COVID
- 1:18nineteen should an outbreak develop, and based in part on
- 1:22this change circumstance, ordered the defendant released. Since the court
- 1:27issued its opinion in Stevens, the COVID nineteen risks to
- 1:30inmates have increased dramatically, as there have been significant outbreaks
- 1:35of COVID nineteen in correctional facilities. In the last month alone,
- 1:39the number of prison inmates known to have COVID nineteen
- 1:42has doubled the sixty eight thousand, and the prison death
- 1:45tied to COVID nineteen have risen by seventy three percent. Indeed,
- 1:50as of July second, twenty twenty, nine of the ten
- 1:53largest known clusters of the coronavirus in the United States
- 1:57are in federal prisons and county jail. As this Court
- 2:01noted last month, the inability of individuals to socially distance
- 2:05shared communal spaces and limited access to hygiene products in
- 2:09correctional facilities makes community spread all but unavoidable. United States
- 2:14versus William's Bathea number eighteen CR seventy eight, AJN twenty
- 2:20twenty WL two eighty four eight oh nine eight at
- 2:24five sdn Y June second, twenty twenty. The risks are
- 2:29further enhanced by the possibility of a second wave of coronavirus.
- 2:34In particular, COVID nineteen has begun to spread through the
- 2:37Metropolitan Detention Center where Miss Maxwell has been housed since
- 2:41the Bureau of Prisons transferred are there on July sixth
- 2:44of twenty twenty. According to the NDC statistics, as of
- 2:48April third, twenty twenty, two inmates and five staff had
- 2:52tested positive. By June thirtieth, twenty twenty, those numbers had
- 2:56risen to fourteen and forty one, respectively. The increased spread
- 3:01among prisons means that the COVID nineteen risks that were
- 3:04present in the Stephens case four months ago are far
- 3:08more serious for Miss Maxwell now and mandate her release.
- 3:12Impact of COVID nineteen on the ability to prepare the
- 3:15defense the Stephens opinion provides yet another independent basis that
- 3:20we submit requires Miss Maxwell's release. If she has detained,
- 3:25her ability to meet with her attorneys and prepare for
- 3:27her defense will be significantly impaired, and she will not
- 3:30be able to meaningfully participate in the preparation of her defense.
- 3:35In Stevens. The court found that this factor required the
- 3:39defendant's release under US Code eighteen, Section three forty two I,
- 3:43which provides for temporary release based on a determination that
- 3:47such a release is necessary for the preparation of the
- 3:51person's defense. Stevens, twenty twenty, w L one, twenty nine,
- 3:55five to one, five five at three. The Court noted
- 3:59that the spread of COVID nineteen had compelled the GOP
- 4:03to suspend all in person visits, including legal visits, except
- 4:07as allowed on a case by case basis. That suspension
- 4:11persists to this day. In a case such as this,
- 4:14which will require assessing evidence relating to events that occurred
- 4:18approximately twenty five years ago, including documents and personal recollections,
- 4:23numerous in person meetings between Council and Miss Maxwell will
- 4:27be critical to the preparation of the defense. The recent
- 4:31resurgence of the pandemic calls into question whether these meetings
- 4:35will ever be able to happen in advance of her trial.
- 4:39As in Stevens, Miss Maxwell and her inability to meet
- 4:42with her attorneys while this policy is in effect, constitutes
- 4:46a compelling reason requiring her release. Stevens, twenty twenty WL
- 4:51one twenty nine, five to one five five at three.
- 4:55Even speaking by phone with Miss Maxwell presents daunting challenges
- 4:59due to COVID ninete teen related protocols requiring at least
- 5:02seventy two hours notice to schedule a call unless it's urgent,
- 5:06in which case Council can email a request to the MDC.
- 5:10As Council is learned in the past week, however, even
- 5:13an urgent call request does not mean the call will
- 5:16take place in the time required. At approximately five thirty
- 5:20pm on July sixth, twenty twenty, the court ordered us
- 5:23to confer with Maxwell about waiving her physical presence at
- 5:27the arraignment, initial appearance and bail hearing, and ordered Council
- 5:31for both sides to jointly report back by nine pm
- 5:34that night with a reposed date and time for these proceedings.
- 5:38We promptly emailed the MDC to request an urgent call,
- 5:42making specific reference to the court's order, but were not
- 5:45connected with Miss Maxwell until nine pm. There will, no
- 5:50doubt be other orders of the court with no guarantees
- 5:53we will be able to reach our client in time
- 5:56if she is detained. In addition, during this past week,
- 6:00Miss Maxwell has not been able to physically review documents,
- 6:03and has had limited access to writing materials. The prohibition
- 6:07on in person visits means we need to retour any
- 6:10documents requiring her review, and she has virtually no ability
- 6:14to take notes. The age of allegations in this case
- 6:17can pound these problems. Under these circumstances, Miss Maxwell cannot
- 6:22review documents and other evidence from approximately twenty five years
- 6:26ago and meaningfully assist in the preparation of her defense.
- 6:30These restrictions are additional compelling reasons justifying her release. Part two.
- 6:37The government has not carried its burden under US Code
- 6:41eighteen thirty one forty two the grave concerns raised by
- 6:45the current COVID nineteen crisis notwithstanding, Miss Maxwell must be
- 6:49released because she has met her limited burden of production
- 6:52showing that she does not pose a flight risk, and
- 6:55the government has entirely failed to demonstrate that no release
- 6:59condition or a combination of conditions exist that will reasonably
- 7:03assure Miss Maxwell's presence in court. A applicable law as
- 7:08the Supreme Court is recognized. In our society, liberty is
- 7:11the norm, and detention prior to trial or without trial
- 7:15is the carefully limited exception. United States vers. Salerno for
- 7:19eighty one US seven thirty nine seven fifty five nineteen
- 7:23eighty seven. Pre trial detention is appropriate only where no
- 7:27condition or a combination of conditions will reasonably assure the
- 7:31appearance of the defendant. United States vers. Saphani, four ninety
- 7:36three f. Dot three D. Sixty three seventy five, Second Circuit,
- 7:40two thousand and seven. Quoting US Code eighteen, section thirty one,
- 7:45forty two E, the Bail Reform Act provides that a
- 7:48court shall order the pre trial release of the defendant
- 7:52US Code eighteen thirty one forty two B, but may
- 7:56impose belle conditions if such release will not reasonably assure
- 8:00or the appearance of the defendant in court. US Code
- 8:03eighteen thirty one forty two. Where conditions are necessary, such
- 8:07release shall be subject to the least restrictive set of
- 8:10conditions that the court determines will reasonably assure the appearance
- 8:14of the person as required. US Code eighteen, section thirty
- 8:18one forty two, C. One and B emphasis added. Consequently,
- 8:23under this statutory scheme, it is only a limited group
- 8:26of offenders who should be denied bail pending trial. Sapani,
- 8:30four ninety three F. Dot three d at seventy five.
- 8:34The government bears a dual burden in seeking pre trial detention. First,
- 8:39the government must show by a preponderance of the evidence
- 8:43that the defendant presents an actual risk of flight Sapani
- 8:46four ninety three f. Dot three d at seventy five.
- 8:49Emphasis added. If the government is able to satisfy this burden,
- 8:54it must then demonstrate by a preponderance of evidence that
- 8:57no condition or a combination of conditions could be imposed
- 9:01on the defendant that would reasonably assure his presence in court.
- 9:05In determining whether there are conditions of release that will
- 9:08reasonably assure the appearance of the defendant, the court must
- 9:12consider one the nature and circumstances of the offense charged,
- 9:16two weight of the evidence against the person, three the
- 9:19history and characteristics of the person, and four the nature
- 9:24and seriousness of the danger to any person or the
- 9:27community that would be posed by the person's release. US
- 9:31Code eighteen thirty one forty two G. In this case,
- 9:35unlike in the Epstein case, the government does not contend
- 9:38that miss Maxwell poses any danger to the community, and
- 9:42therefore the fourth factor does not apply. The bail reformat
- 9:46contains a rebuttable presumption applicable based on certain of the
- 9:50crimes charged here, that no conditions will reasonably assure against
- 9:54flight see US Code Section thirty one forty two E
- 9:58three and e Z. In cases where this presumption applies,
- 10:03the defendant bears a limited burden on production, not a
- 10:06burden of persuasion to rebut that presumption by coming forward
- 10:10with evidence that she does not pose a risk of flight.
- 10:13See United States verse English six twenty nine F dot
- 10:17three D three eleven three nineteen second Circuit twenty eleven.
- 10:21This rebuttal presumption can be readily satisfied. United States versus.
- 10:26Conway number four Dash eleven DASH seven zero seven five
- 10:30six m A G DMR twenty eleven, w L thirty
- 10:34four twenty one three twenty one at two, Northern District, California,
- 10:40August three, twenty eleven. And any evidence favorable to a
- 10:44defendant that comes within a category listed in thirty one
- 10:48forty two G can affect the operation of the presumption.
- 10:52United States versus Domingues seven eighty three F dot two
- 10:55D seven O two seven oh seven seven Circuit nineteen
- 10:59eighty six. See also United States versus. Mattis number twenty
- 11:04Dash seventeen DASH thirteen twenty twenty, w L thirty five
- 11:09thirty six two seventy seven at four and five Second Circuit,
- 11:13June thirtieth, twenty twenty. Although the presumption remains a factor
- 11:17to be considered even after the defendant has met her
- 11:20burden of production, at all times, the government retains the
- 11:24ultimate burden of persuasion by preponderance of the evidence that
- 11:28the defendant poses a flight risk that cannot be addressed
- 11:31by any bail conditions. English six twenty nine f Dot
- 11:35three d at three nineteen Citation and eternal quotation marks omitted.
- 11:41See also United States versus Deutsch number eighteen dash CR
- 11:44Dash five oh two FB twenty twenty, w L thirty
- 11:48five seventy seven three ninety eight at five ed n
- 11:53Y July one, twenty twenty. And regardless of the presence
- 11:57and the presumption or the nature of the charges alleged,
- 12:00nothing in this section thirty one forty two shall be
- 12:03construed as modifying or limiting the presumption of innocence. US
- 12:07Code eighteen, Section thirty one forty two JAY. See also
- 12:11United States versus Kroll zero six dot CR Dot two
- 12:15ninety one EF two thousand and six WL thirty five
- 12:19forty one seven thirty six at three WDNY, December seventh,
- 12:24two thousand and six. Those charged with crimes involving minors
- 12:27continue to enjoy the presumption of innocence in setting conditions
- 12:31of release. All right, folks, that's going to wrap up
- 12:35Part two, and in the next episode we'll pick up
- 12:37where we left off with Part three. All of the
- 12:40information that goes with this episode can be found in
- 12:44the description box.