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Lori Reising · Postcards to the Universe

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do
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  Speaker 1: you believe in magic? What if you were told that
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  Speaker 1: all you had to do was get a little creative
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  Speaker 1: and work a magic spell to bring anything you can
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  Speaker 1: imagine into your life. Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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  Speaker 1: we will share manifesting tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Melissa Capria.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everybody, how are you doing? Welcome to Postcards to
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  Speaker 2: the Universe with Melissa creating the life you create. It's Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: If you're watching live on July fifteenth, Welcome, If not,
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  Speaker 2: time you're joining me, I really appreciate it. I want
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  Speaker 2: to do shout out to all my regulars who watch
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  Speaker 2: my show. I so appreciate you so much. I get
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  Speaker 2: your emails and that you like my guests, and today
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna like my guests. I have a really cool guest.
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  Speaker 2: Her name is Laurie Rising. She's a spiritual mentor and
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  Speaker 2: she's gonna come and join me in just a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I love to have guests on because I like to
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  Speaker 2: have conversations. That works for my Gemini brain. My mercury
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  Speaker 2: is in Gemini. It's all about communication. I talk to
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  Speaker 2: myself all the time, and if you could live in
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  Speaker 2: my head for a day, you would be exhausted for
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  Speaker 2: as much as the way that my brain goes. So
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  Speaker 2: for me, having conversations is the best way to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the things that I love, which we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be talking about today. Just so you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: don't know who I am, I'm an author. You can
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  Speaker 2: see my book behind my Head, Postcards to the Universe,
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  Speaker 2: Harness the univers's power and manifest your dreams. It's all
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  Speaker 2: about making manifesting postcards. And that's kind of like making
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  Speaker 2: a little mini vision board. But the twist on it
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  Speaker 2: is you you put on your postcard what it is
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  Speaker 2: that you want to bring into your life, what you
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  Speaker 2: want to show up physical and physical format. It could
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  Speaker 2: be it doesn't have to be It could be your health,
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  Speaker 2: it could be you know, anything like that. But what
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  Speaker 2: you want to manifest, You make a postcard, you send
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  Speaker 2: it to me, and I photograph it, I take it,
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  Speaker 2: I do my interpretation of it. I set the space
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  Speaker 2: I do. I usually stage. I like candles, I put
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  Speaker 2: on high frequency music. I just kind of get into
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  Speaker 2: the energy of whatever the affirmation is. And then I
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  Speaker 2: photographed the postcard, and that is basically what the book
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  Speaker 2: is about. And of course people are still sending me
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  Speaker 2: postcards and I'm still photographing them. I love doing it.
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  Speaker 2: And I made an oracle deck. So I am working
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  Speaker 2: this Mercury retrograde, going back over the cards and making
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  Speaker 2: my selections because I'm getting closer and closer to actually
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  Speaker 2: making a deck that people can purchase. Right now, this
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  Speaker 2: is a homemade deck just for me, and I pull
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  Speaker 2: cards and I read them on my postcards to the
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  Speaker 2: Universe YouTube channel, So if you go there, you'll see
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  Speaker 2: me reading my oracle cards. You'll see me reading tarot cards.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see me giving short talks about, you know, whatever's
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  Speaker 2: on my mind, usually something inspirational. I try to keep
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  Speaker 2: it very centered on, you know, how we can create
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  Speaker 2: the best life for ourself, right because I believe that
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  Speaker 2: has a ripple effect going out into the universe. I
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  Speaker 2: do do stranger card readings though, on what's going on collectively,
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  Speaker 2: so those have a little bit of the upside down
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  Speaker 2: world that we're living in if you're interested in that.
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  Speaker 2: So today's card, I pulled, which I thought was really
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  Speaker 2: a great card for the conversation today because LORI does
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  Speaker 2: some real interesting things. Is I am in charge of
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  Speaker 2: the direction of my life? And I think if you
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  Speaker 2: think about that, we think a lot of times so
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  Speaker 2: that we are in charge of the direction of our lives.
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  Speaker 2: But we're not really living that, right, We're not living
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  Speaker 2: that at all. We're living by what everybody else is
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  Speaker 2: telling us what we're supposed to be doing. We're taking
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  Speaker 2: care of everybody else, We're not taking care of ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we're doing what we know our career is what
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  Speaker 2: our parents wanted us to do, but that's not our passion.
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  Speaker 2: We're not living our passion. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: interesting having Laurie talk about her work because I think
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  Speaker 2: that she is really living the direction her life was
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  Speaker 2: meant to take. And on that note, let's bring Laurie
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  Speaker 2: Rising out so that you can meet her. She is
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  Speaker 2: an author, speaker, psychosomatic guide, and spiritual mentor who catalyzes
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  Speaker 2: deep cellular liberation and those that are ready to exit
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  Speaker 2: the healing loop and embody their divine brilliance now. And
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  Speaker 2: she's the founder of the Frequency Foundation method, which is
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  Speaker 2: a radical departure from traditional healing and personal development work,
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  Speaker 2: and you can find out so much more about her.
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  Speaker 2: Her whole bio is listed below, so you can read
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  Speaker 2: all about her, and you can go to her website
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  Speaker 2: and you can find out more about her. Which is
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  Speaker 2: They're a wind. What is it, Laurie? There, They're a wind.
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  Speaker 2: They're a wind wild Hearts. Wait, I'm like getting tongue.
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  Speaker 3: By super fun. It's the name of my podcast, The
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  Speaker 3: Raw and Wild Hearts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm reading it like there, but the
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  Speaker 2: Raw and Wildhearts. I should have put a capital like
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  Speaker 2: tea and then the R so that I see it,
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  Speaker 2: the Raw and Wildhearts. That comment, But guys, it's linked
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  Speaker 2: in the bio. So welcome, Laurie. Thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for being here with me today.
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  Speaker 3: Hi Melissa, thank you so much for having me. Hello
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  Speaker 3: to everybody out there for this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I love this, So of course I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to ask how does one get into Well, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, let's before we do that. Many people might
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  Speaker 2: not know what a somatic guide is, So why don't
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  Speaker 2: you start there and then tell us how you got
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  Speaker 2: into the kind of healing work that you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, So a psychosomatic guide is body mind, right,
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  Speaker 3: body mind mind, the somatic is the body. And when
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  Speaker 3: we really start to merge the two of them, realizing
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  Speaker 3: that what we feel in the mind is actually a
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  Speaker 3: response from what's living in the body, we get more
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  Speaker 3: to the root, right, We get to the of what's
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  Speaker 3: showing up or reacting into the mind instead of trying
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  Speaker 3: to control from the mind down. And so that's where
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  Speaker 3: the psychosomatic came in. I've always, you know, been interested
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  Speaker 3: in I guess mind, body health, but this food has
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  Speaker 3: always been in that realm as well. I think did
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  Speaker 3: you ask me like how I got into it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like was there like a catalyst, Like were you
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  Speaker 2: on a certain path or was this something that you
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  Speaker 2: were always connected to even when you were little. Because
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  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people who will come on
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  Speaker 2: my show. They'll maybe have been going a completely different
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  Speaker 2: direction and then something happens, usually a trauma, and it
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  Speaker 2: takes them on a new trajectory and then they start
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  Speaker 2: doing their own healing and then they come to this work.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm always curious how somebody gets into that this
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  Speaker 2: kind of healing work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So my experience is like a little bit flipped
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  Speaker 3: from that. Okay, So I came in as a star set.
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  Speaker 3: I came in just knowing I knew how divine we were.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have to learn it or feeling I was.
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  Speaker 3: I came in awake. I guess yes. I remember when
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  Speaker 3: I was in the church view, right. I was in
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  Speaker 3: a small conservative town, religious town, and I was in
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  Speaker 3: the church view, and I was trying hard because faith
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  Speaker 3: lives in me, like the finding, So I was looking
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  Speaker 3: for that outside of myself. And I still remember that
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  Speaker 3: moment where I was looking around. I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't get it. This isn't this isn't the truth because.
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  Speaker 2: I know the truth.
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  Speaker 3: And what I didn't get was like all the hypocrisy,
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  Speaker 3: all the anger, all the violence, like none of that me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, why aren't we levitating? I know that, I'm
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  Speaker 3: I know we're the miracles and I just have to
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  Speaker 3: learn that. I just knew it. And so that has
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  Speaker 3: always been my north star, my north star of knowing
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  Speaker 3: that like what we're capable of and the potential of
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  Speaker 3: us as the divine beings, that we are the ones
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  Speaker 3: that hold the God spark or the God energy within us.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just inside of us. And so then I
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  Speaker 3: went on to have a massive human awakening, that's what
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  Speaker 3: I like to say. And I went through a lot
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  Speaker 3: to like I went through a dark decade of the
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  Speaker 3: soul where you know, I got a little bit lost
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  Speaker 3: in that. Even in that space and that very dark,
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  Speaker 3: very grief stricken experience, I held that north star of
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  Speaker 3: knowing it was like it was always somewhere where I
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  Speaker 3: was going. Soul growth was always my path, like I
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  Speaker 3: was always going to be led to the moment that
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  Speaker 3: I actually did levitate, right Like, so my path wanted
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  Speaker 3: to move me to what I knew as truth. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, it was through the other side of that
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  Speaker 3: dark decade of my soul and having to really reconcile
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  Speaker 3: and come back to a life that I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: that I was ever going to want to come back to.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that I would ever find happiness or
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  Speaker 3: peace or like you know, my own spirituality again. And
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  Speaker 3: so when I finally did come back and I did
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  Speaker 3: that work, it was some of the most brutal, intense
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  Speaker 3: work of my life. And I now live completely free,
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  Speaker 3: like I have the inner freedom, I have the natural ecstasy,
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  Speaker 3: like I have the alignment and the balance that's continuing.
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  Speaker 3: I get the channeled life right. Yeah, I'm in that
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  Speaker 3: space where I'm not being I don't know, pulled in
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  Speaker 3: different directions of the mind and the beliefs and the
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  Speaker 3: worries and the stories and the suffering anymore. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: got myself through it. I walked my talk and now
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  Speaker 3: I share it my soul medicine.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's I think the thing. It's like when people
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  Speaker 2: come to you, you know, they want to come to
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's sort of been in it, right, Like when
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  Speaker 2: you listen to experts and whatever they're an expert in
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  Speaker 2: and if somebody just is like, you know, talking but
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  Speaker 2: they haven't actually had the experience, there's almost there's a
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  Speaker 2: disconnect like, well, how can you tell me or help
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  Speaker 2: me when tell me what I should be doing here
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  Speaker 2: when you've never experienced it yourself, but you've obviously went
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  Speaker 2: deep into the muck, you know, the human god, it
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  Speaker 2: could be so painful of the stuff that we go
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  Speaker 2: through to deal with the healings. So talking about tell
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  Speaker 2: us a little bit about body mind connection, because I
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  Speaker 2: think more people are now starting to realize that our emotions,
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  Speaker 2: what we think about, how we talk to our bodies,
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  Speaker 2: how we talk to ourselves has a physical manifestation, you know,
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  Speaker 2: where people before never would have thought that that was true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the first thing that I want to say,
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  Speaker 3: because you were speaking about astrology before, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: I just want to drop a little something in there,
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  Speaker 3: because I came in and was literally abandoned, like I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't held, I didn't get to say hello to my mother.
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  Speaker 3: I was taken right out of the room. And so
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  Speaker 3: you know, that started such a deep lineage wound that
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  Speaker 3: I have spent my whole life in and now I'm opting.
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  Speaker 3: It's like this deep matriarchal experience, and it all began
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  Speaker 3: with the way that I entered into this world. And
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  Speaker 3: so at that moment when I got that divine snapshot,
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  Speaker 3: because I'm also an astrologer, I use the lens of
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  Speaker 3: evolutionary astrology. I have a Chiron Kasimi. So if anybody
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  Speaker 3: knows what that is is, it means the wounded healer
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  Speaker 3: is in the heart of my son. And I used
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  Speaker 3: to resist this. I used to hate it, just.
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  Speaker 2: Like I used to what house is it in? I'm
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  Speaker 2: just curious my first Oh my god, yeah, yeah, see
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  Speaker 2: Myirn's in my ninth it's not a Kasini, but.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so this is in my house of self. And
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing. When I used to resist all of this,
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  Speaker 3: I saw it as like happening to me, and I
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  Speaker 3: was a victim of this even just sure I've always
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  Speaker 3: been psychic, and so knowing what people thought and then
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  Speaker 3: having their actions be different than what they thought, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: lighting comes in because we're all energy workers and we
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  Speaker 3: feel energy first. That's our first language. But then we're
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  Speaker 3: being told words and we're being told that it's our
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  Speaker 3: word language that's what creates are the environment around us,
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  Speaker 3: or creates our reality, and that's not true at all.
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  Speaker 3: And so once I started to reconcile those things and
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  Speaker 3: started to see them as my superpower, they became my superpower.
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  Speaker 3: But it's that struggle that so many of us are
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  Speaker 3: in for so much of our life against who we
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  Speaker 3: actually are, what our soul medicine is, and who like
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  Speaker 3: how we show up in the world in that place
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  Speaker 3: of alignment. And once we start to get to the
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  Speaker 3: energy and the root of that, that changes everything. It
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  Speaker 3: changes all the symptoms in our life that we're trying
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  Speaker 3: to roll from the outside in. But when we work
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  Speaker 3: from the inside out, everything else falls into alignment and
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  Speaker 3: it becomes those new paths and portals for us in ease.
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  Speaker 3: So I just wanted to speak a little bit to
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  Speaker 3: the Chiron Kasimi because I always think that that's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's a very big that's that's a that's a
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  Speaker 2: huge that's a huge wound to come in with. Actually, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that you're right, and you're so, you're what is your
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  Speaker 2: sun sign aries aries? Same same? Wow, and then and
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  Speaker 2: then so and then just so for those and what's
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  Speaker 2: your north note?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just curious sedge stage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting. How how
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  Speaker 2: you're That screenshot at birth is such a it's like
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  Speaker 2: a soul chart, right, it's just amazing my design.
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  Speaker 3: And it's the answers to the map, but most of
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  Speaker 3: us are using it as a crutch instead of seeing
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  Speaker 3: it as the answers. But we still have to move
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  Speaker 3: through the map. We have to take us, we have
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  Speaker 3: to be in the journey and we have to participate
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  Speaker 3: in it. So it's really easy if you understand your astrology,
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  Speaker 3: it's easy to sit in the shadow aspect of any
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  Speaker 3: energy that's the default, right, because that's been the default
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  Speaker 3: of our collective for a very long time. Now we're
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  Speaker 3: starting to reconcile it that that gap is closing and
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  Speaker 3: we're starting to become the wholeness as we are, which
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  Speaker 3: is what you were asking about. Right. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: just work with body mind. I work with body mind,
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  Speaker 3: spirit energy, and that's what most people aren't doing. So
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  Speaker 3: I address all of them because that's every realm of us,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what creates the wholeness this experience. Right, But
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  Speaker 3: you learn to be separate. You know, religion got our soul,
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  Speaker 3: medicine got our body, you know, education got our mind,
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  Speaker 3: and science got our energy. And we've been cycloning our
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  Speaker 3: power out to every one of those systems. And then
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  Speaker 3: we're trying to go through life when we're fractured, and
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  Speaker 3: then we're just hitting ourselves from the inside, and then
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  Speaker 3: we're trying to force a life on top of that,
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  Speaker 3: and we are working way too hard, Like we're just
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  Speaker 3: working too hard. For example, with that Chiron Kazimi. I've
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  Speaker 3: always been really I'm going to quote this, but really
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  Speaker 3: confronting to people because I am so true to myself.
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  Speaker 3: I got all that aries energy.
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  Speaker 2: I just yeah, I was gonna say that's so I
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  Speaker 2: am I am here, I am right here. You're not
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  Speaker 2: going to ignore me.
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  Speaker 3: It's so true, So goodness, this is such a mercury
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  Speaker 3: retrograde moment. And I know we're live and there's nothing
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  Speaker 3: else I can do about this, but my battery is
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  Speaker 3: about to die and I don't have the chord, and
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  Speaker 3: I have to go grab the cord.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So what we're gonna do is in how many
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  Speaker 2: how long do you think you have because we're going
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  Speaker 2: to take a break unless we take our commercial break
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  Speaker 2: now and then you can go get your cord.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, take a commercial break now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Chris, why don't we take our commercial break early
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  Speaker 2: so she can go get her cord?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody? Well, well we go, go ahead, you go, don't
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  Speaker 2: worry about it, you go, you go. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: and a force for positive change. Own Times. Open yourself
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  Speaker 1: to the possibilities.
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  Speaker 4: If I could be you could be me just one hour,
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  Speaker 4: if we could find a way to get inside each
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  Speaker 4: other's mine. Welcome in my shoes, Welcome all in my shoes.
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  Speaker 3: Well before you.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Abuse griticie and accused, welcome all in the shoes.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. So did you find your court? It's so
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: mercury retrograde. This mercury retrograde has been like, oh my god,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and it's in cancer. So I know, for a lot
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of people have been very emotional. For me, it's been
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of technical stuff. But that could be because
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I'm a Gemini and mercury is in you Geminis. I
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: don't know, so I yeah, it hasn't been that emotional
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: for me. I'm glad you found it. Yeah, So, I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: don't remember what we were talking about before.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: We were talking about being like working with the wholeness
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: of us.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thank you.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: We've been so separated, and so we've actually normalized that separation. Right,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: So most people when they feel overwhelmed, it's not because
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: you're actually overwhelmed. You're doing things that aren't in a
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: lightning soul and that's the information, right, you're getting the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: invitation to change it. But we're overriding the invitation because
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: when we're living solely from the mind, the control, the expectation,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: and the force, then we just try to keep staying
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: on that one trajectory that we think will be successful,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: and then we're creating a lot more freaking work for ourselves, right,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: And it's becoming so much it creates more time, more challenge,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: and just more effort and energy in general.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's so true. And when you said something
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: before about how you know, religions taking you know, our
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: spirit and medicine is it's just so interesting. I never
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: thought about it like that. And I remember as I
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: was a kid, you know, we are not we're reformed Catholic,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: we're not Catholic. But you know, I went to Catholic
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: school as a little little girl in elementary school, and
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I remember ever feeling that that was right. I didn't
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: understand what I what was, but I didn't feel what
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: they were teaching me sounded right. The God that they
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: were describing it didn't. It didn't feel right to me,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you know. So it's really interesting. So so I want
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to ask, So somebody comes to you, like, give me
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: an example of like the kind of clients that come
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: to you, Like, what's happening to them? What are they experiencing?
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: What are they looking for?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: So typically a lot of women enter my world when
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: they're they're on the verge of their next level, Like
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: they know that change is imminent, they know something is
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: calling them, but yet they keep finding themselves in the
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: old life, in the good enough, the waiting, right, Like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: we get really well versed in waiting. We wait for
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: the conditions to change around us, to signal the safety
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: in order to make it move or to do the thing,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: or to evolve out, to let go of what's no
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: longer for us. And that again is the long route.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: It holds us back, and a lot of times it
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: can hold you back for a lifetime or lifetime. And
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: so ultimately, at the heart of it, people that come
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: into my world, they feel stuck. They know there's something more,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and they feel stuck. The people that are stuck that
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: don't know there's something more don't usually approach because when
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: you approach me, like I said, with this Chiron Kazimi
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: and all this Aris energy, you know that something is
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: going to change because in Aris will be your cheerleader
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: forever and always. But there's also a level of intensity.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: And now that I have the Chiron Kazimi, I bring
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: up people's triggers and wounds pretty yeah. And I never
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: understood that, and it was always so isolating and sad.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: It was like a sad existence to live because I
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: just didn't feel like anybody could get me and I
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: didn't know why. It was like so reactive in my space.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: And then once I saw it as a superpower and
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: it became my soul's medicine and work, I was like, oh,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I get it now. I can actually hold them while
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: they're moving through the wound instead of showing it to them,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I can hold them through it because I don't take
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: it on right. So it's women. I mean, actually there's men,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: there's conscious men that are trickling into my world now,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: but it's that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always women are always the four always there first,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: just are.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've got the divine feminine energy, like it's
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: built in, and so we already know how to receive,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: We know how to it, we know how to be
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: connected beyond the words and the mind, and so you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I think that we're just much more easy to like
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: be in that communal space and let ourselves be more
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: vulnerable in our feelings personality. On top of it, the
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: collective narrative was very different for women growing up than
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: if it's right. But I love happening. I love that
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: the conscious men are starting to pop up and they're
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: me too, causing the power in their vulnerability, the power
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and their emotions and feelings, because that's always the beginning, right,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: The beginning of anything is the feminine. Always, it takes
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the masculine to create it, right, part in the scene, right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, And it's interesting too that the actual bravery
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: comes from the vulnerability, not from the physic the force, right,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: because usually when there's bullying and it's forceful, it's because
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: they're really afraid inside. If you can be vulnerable, that's
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: where the real strength comes in, right, That's where it
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: comes in. So so people will say, like listen, Laurie,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I am stuck. I can't. I don't know what to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: do right, Like I started this business and it's not
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: going anywhere, you know, Like what do I? What do
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I do? It's something I always wanted to do. I
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: thought it was going to look like this, but you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I'm strung to get it, get it off the ground.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: What would you kind of where would we start if
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: that's what I came to you with.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Where would we start with that? So you know, the
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: thing in my world is there's always going to be somatics,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: There's always going to be embodiment practices. Right. So, I'm
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: a master EFT tapper, I do EMDR. I'm a transpersonal hypnotherapist.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I have a degree in psychology. I have studied so
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: many different energy medicines. I've studied under John Barnes for
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: over twenty years, which is very much a somatic experience
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: in the cells. So, you know, it depends on where
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: you come into my world. But basically, we're going to
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: start excavating. We're going to start looking at your stories,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: because once you start to look at the mind, it
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: comes down to all the stories, the beliefs that you're
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: holding and then that leads to the thoughts and the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: inner dialogue that you're having every day, which is going
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: to create it's a delayed effect, but that creates the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: reality that you're observing.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And then we've got to look at how are you
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: working with energy? What's the frequency that's living at the foundation.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: But have you become a master of the energy because
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: energy needs to move. Most of us have gotten really
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: hypnotized into like stagnating energy. We're really blocking energy, right
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and not living in the moment. So you know the
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: way that I because my program is called Channel, I
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: teach channeling and it's not ever going to be like
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: a course of channeling. It's actually removing all of the
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: blocks that are suppressing your channel because we're all a channel, right, We're.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: All a channel. So you help people remove whatever is
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: blocking the messages that you know, spirit, your guides, to
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: your angels, whatever you want to think. The universe is
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: trying to get to you that you are blacking for
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: whatever reason. And usually we're blacking it because of old
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: stories we tell ourselves, old wounds, fears, you know, beliefs,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Right, we're blocking it because we're not in harmony. Right,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: you don't have the body mind's soul and energy and harmony. Right,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: So we're somehow separate or we're having a deep energetic struggle.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: At any point when you're in that, like your nervous
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: system is disregulated, right, you're in an energetic struggle, you're
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: in a battle. Whenever that's happening. If you can imagine, like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: let me just show it to you like this, right,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: So let's say like this is your inner being and
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: it's like this because it's disregulated. There's no portal there.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: But when you come down and you are in complete
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: alignment with yourself, then that's the access. That's the ultimate portal.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: That's where every all of life is. It begins, it happens,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: and it's created there and so you've really there. It
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: becomes layered. But at the same time, what most people
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: are doing is they're looking at the symptom and trying
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: to work with the symptom rather than going to the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: root that's going to create that symptom in various ways.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So it can be tricky, right, because it shows up
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: to the relationship and then it shows up in our business.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: But we don't equate those because.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: They're different areas. So then it's like, what do I
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: have to do to take care of the relationship, What
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: do I have to do to take care of the business.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I just need it to get back into balance. And
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: then we'll do like the bare minimum just to get
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: the reprieve and then it's like, oh, okay, it's working enough.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: It's okay for now, so I'm just going to keep going.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: But we don't go to the full vulnerability. We don't
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: go to the full I mean, this takes the ultimate
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: confrontation with yourself.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And the thing that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Will stop you from confronting yourself in any of these
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: spaces is one thing. You know what it is?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Ego? Yeah, mm hmmm.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Let's get clear on the ego. Right, there's a healthy
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: ego and then there's a learned ego, and the learned
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: ego will actually push away the healthy ego because in
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: the learned ego space, which is all about judgment control, comparison,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: we don't have any self love. So now the healthy
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: ego is negated and the learned ego is trying to
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: drive everything, and then that becomes an offense defense. It
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: becomes a battle with most things that are that are
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: happening in life, and then we can start to see
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: them as happening to us instead of happening from us
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and offering us deep places of information and invitation at
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: any given moment. That's the master right there.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because anything that's happening people think if you're
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: playing things, or why does this keep happening to me?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: It's well, it's think of it as happening for you,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: because what it's forcing you is trying to force you
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to go in a little bit deeper to get that healing.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Because once you get it, like like gaus, like once
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: you once you ring that bell and you get it,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: you can't unget it. Like once it's there, it's you
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: have it. Now. Do you know what I'm trying to say.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: It's like you can't go to see it. When you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: see it, you can't to unsee it. So so the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: ego I can see stopping us because it forces us
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: to look at certain things about ourselves that we may
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: not like. And usually when we're highly triggered by somebody
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: telling us something about ourselves, that is a clue of
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: an area we should look at.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: So there's yeah, there's one let's go like one step deeper, okay,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: deeper as life is happening from you.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I love it from you, actually, yeah, from you, because it's.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: A frequency and energy that you're running, and it's called
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: a nervous system. Stetpoint. Your nervous system has set itself
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: around the reality that you keep observing, and then you
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: keep magnetizing more of it because you keep your inner thoughts,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: your dialogue, beliefs, and your stories running in that and
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: it just becomes like the self fulfilling prophecy. But then
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: we were blaming life for happening or life for doing
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: this to us. But in actuality, we're very comfortable in it,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: even though consciously we don't want it anymore and we
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: don't like it. Our nervous system knows what to expect,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: it knows how to react to it, and knows how
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: to move you through it. So you've mastered it. So
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: it's getting out of that, which is where I want
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: to go to with what you just said about the ego,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: is it's it's the environment. Yeah, the environment is everything
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: because most of us are trying to work out our
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you can swear on here, but
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: you you're trying to work out our shit on victments
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: that can't hold it. So when I realized, like, oh
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I can hold this and not take it on, that's
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: like goal. That's where the secret stuff like really lives.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: And so most people aren't investing in environments that can
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: hold them in witness, that can hold them in love
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: while they confront themselves, while they get really honest about
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: what the ego has been doing and how it's been
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: defending and pushing and reacting in the store because we
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: don't want to believe that there was another way, right,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: The ego doesn't want to believe that, because then that
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: means that we just had however many years of our
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: life that it could have been a different way, but
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: it wasn't, so of the ego against it, right, And
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: you see.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you see it playing out on the global
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: spec You see it playing out like so vividly in
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the world, like acknowledging that you may have been conned,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: you may have been you know, lied to, you may
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: have believed something that was never true, and it's really
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: hard to say, wow, that did happen to me and
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: kind of own that, you know for yourself. Yeah, well, and.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I think that that's like some of the most powerful
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: points of astrology, and whenever I'm giving an astrology reading,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: when we start talking about this, and if people start
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: to understand, like okay, so I can see where I
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: magnetize these experiences into my life, right, my mother, my father,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Like those are typically what I'm working on immediately with people. Yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: and then there's an anger about that, like I'm pissed that,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I had to go through all of this
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: and it's something that like is literally living in my chart.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: And it's like, Okay, let yourself feel that. But if
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: you get stuck in it, then that's going to be
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: your reality forever. Right, what kind of reality do you
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: want to have? So you're going to have to find
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: that kind of momentum and desire in your life to
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: like own it and find power in it. And that's
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: really what I help people do, is I help them
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: find the power in every one of their experiences and
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: no longer let their experiences have power over them.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Right, So you change their thought of well, this was
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a bad experience and this was a terrible experience. To
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: know this was an experience and let's go from what
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: we can make this experience be now, right, And it's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: kind of like helping us get out of victimhood because
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I think, and I'm sure you've seen this, I've seen that,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and I know now well enough to know that people
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: who love to be the victim, and they may say
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they hate being the victim, but no, no, no, being
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: the victim serves them very very well. The attention that
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: they're they're getting that maybe that they didn't get at
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: another time. You know, it puts them center stage. So
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: it's really kind of interesting when you see how this
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: work really is confronting. Like everybody's like telling you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, you do all that, wu will work. No,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I make the fun creative part, making the postcards, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: that's all the fun part, and that's all part of it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: But you got to get into the muck if you
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: really want to do the changing and the frequency work
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: and the energy work. You know, you you got to
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: really go deep if you want to make those changes stick.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: And then you know, you can make some fun postcards
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: and you say your affirmations and you add that to
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: your toolbox. Right, yeah, absolutely.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I mean there are so many unfortunately, there are so
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: many little spaces in the spiritual world that even though
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: they have good intention, there's a level of bypassing that
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: can't and then people get disillusioned, right, or they get frustrated,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: and then they're like, no, it doesn't work. I don't
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: believe it. Right, And then time comes into play, like,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: for example, let me give you a big one. I
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: feel like this is going to be really helpful for
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: so many people. We have this belief that in order
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: to heal, we have to forgive the people who have
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: have like wronged.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Us, right, that is I've heard that many times, yes, and.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: So people are trying everything they can to forgive someone
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: and it's it's causing a lot of pain and stress,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: and they're they and then it becomes this self judgment
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: like oh my god, why can't I forgive them? Like
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I need to forgive them that I'm going to be healed. Right,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: here's the reality. You're already healed. You just got to
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: recalibrate to it. But we believe healing is like go
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: our way out there. It's not like it out or
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: learn it. And that alone, it creates a separation between
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: us and the ultimate divine that we are. Like I said,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: we are made of God creation energy, where the God spark.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: We're the divine within. We can levitate if you believe it, right,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: which is why idicated in my twenties, because I never
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: stopped believing it. I've levitated since then as well.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: That I've seen people do it. And I'm always like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you know, because I'll sometimes I'll be just have I'm
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt, but i just have to say this.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll be sitting on my couch in the morning
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm like looking at my coffee cup and I'm
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: just like, come on, come come here, you know, like
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: just come to me, you know what I mean, Like
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: like I want to do it, like, come on, come on.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: So it's so cool. I've seen people. I've seen videos
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: where people levitated. That's really interesting. All Right, I'm sorry,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean it interrupt.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I know, let's let's all do it. But that's it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: got to be clear, yeah, right, if we're holding anything
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: else in the field, that's probably gonna take price over
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: that clarity and that focus and that belief. Right. I
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: think we believe it, but we believe it up here.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: We don't believe it down here.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: That's a huge difference. And that's where people give up
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: because they think they believe it up here, and then
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: it doesn't happen. They're like, oh, it's not for me.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, anything.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: That you want is for you, But you've got to
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: believe it here, and then you've got to like take
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: those big risks and those actions once you start receiving
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: the new paths for it. Yeah.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: But and that's the big thing for manifesting. It's not
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: just thinking, oh, I want something and it's going to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: show up. It's you have to believe that, first off,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: you deserve to have what you're asking for, and that
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you're an energetic match for what you're asking for. So
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: if you're asking for abundance, but every time you look
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: at yourself in the mirror, you call yourself a worthless
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: piece of shit? Why why would the universe give you abundance?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: You're only going to have a reality that keeps repeating that. Okay,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: well that's what you're feeling, you're a worthless piece of shit.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: That I'm going to keep giving you those experiences because
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: that is what you are magnifying out there, right, Yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how That's actually kind of how simple it is.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: But we've overcomplicated it so much. And I love that
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: you brought that up, because that's another one of those
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: spiritual things that's like, wait, it's a little bit bypassing
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: because it's like people out here trying to teach manifestation
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: and the reality is you're manifesting twenty four hours a day.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: You're never not manifesting. It's just what energy are you
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: manifesting from? That's it. But now we've over complicated and
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh no, I'm not good enough because I
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: got to take this class and then I it's a
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: pass or fail and I fail to manifest.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: The boat right right, right, right.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: It's so much more nuanced, right, this is text.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: So much more, so much more. It's so text shired,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and so there's so many layers. You have your own,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: your own experiences growing up, and then if you even
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: bring in who knows what we brought in and past
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: lives the other thing, right, like we're bringing things through
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: from other lifetimes do so it's it is, it's I'm
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: very much even though you know, I love the way
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: that I do it is in a creative format because
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: that's what lights me up. But that's just one little
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: aspect of it that is not the full picture. And
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I don't like when people say, oh, well, you always
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: have to be walking around feeling happy and joy if
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: something traumatic has happened to you, because then you're not
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: honoring yourself. You're not honoring those feelings and whatever happened
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and processing that so that you can get to that
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: place of joy again, you know.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Right. But it's the like what you're saying right now
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: is when you have the the life experiences happened, or
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: the contrasts of life happening, you actually going into the
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: feeling and the emotion is the portal. If we all
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: believe that manifestation only happens when we're enjoy we're like
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: cutting ourself off like big time there, right.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: So if you actually.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Shift the belief of like, oh wait, when I can
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: be in my vulnerability and I can fully feel this
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: and I can let the feelings and the emotion guide me.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: It's funny. I was just talking about this on my
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: call in my program today. It's like your feeling is
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: giving you information all the time. Most of us are
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: so used to self sacrificing and just like pushing through
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: the feeling that we move beyond all of the information
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: and the invitation that it's offering us, and that level
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: of awareness. This is where this life is. If you
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: want to be in alignment in this life, you've got
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: to be in an intentional life. It's a way of life.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: It's not I go take a class and then it's happened,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: like or I go take a test and then it's happened.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: How do you refine your everyday moments? How do you
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: show up for your everyday moments? Because they're all the
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: invitation and they're going to take you either into expansion
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: or they're going to take you into contract. And which
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: one are you repeating more and more and more because
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: that's going to be the fault. That's the one that
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: you just slide into.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: So how would you How do you help somebody who
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: can't quite define what the problem is? They just know
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: they're not happy. Nothing's working for them, Their relationships aren't healthy,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: you know, they don't have maybe they're struggling financially, but
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: they can't really pinpoint anything, you know, like, well, what
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: is actually the problem? How how do you approach that?
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I just start talking to them and I can I
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: can pick it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: You can pick it. And what do you find is
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: a collective? I don't know, story be the right one
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: that we a lot of us carry, would that be
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the right term? Story or energy that we carry what
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: seems to be like a collective thing. But yeah, yeah,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: that's easy scarcity. M.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Everybody in scarcity. They don't believe they are tough. They
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: think they're in lack. You know, it's like doubt, lack,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: scarcity that all leads to the fear, That all leads
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: to the clenching, the constriction and the stress and the control.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: And you cannot be in trust when you're in control.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: No way that you can actually live in the ease
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: and the innate guidance is through that space of trust.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: So if you're in chronic stress and you're in control,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: that's another collective narrative. Chronic stress is normal, it's not.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: I call it the gateway drug. Other people are calling
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: drugs the gateway drug. I'm like, no. The chronic stress
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: is what continues to separate you out from your soul's
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: truth and it continues to put that overwhelm. Right, that
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: that place of depressed energy into your life is when
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you're not living in your soul's truth, when you're living
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: for your parents, for others, for the stories or the
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: suffering of your past. It's all going to depressed energy
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: in you when you continue to self sacrifice. I mean,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: there's so many ways to talk about this, but those
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: are the two things. Chronic stress and scarcity, Like those
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: run rampant, and we continue to get them on a
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: daily basis.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Like how Yeah, a.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Fear based media, and it drives off of you being
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: in fear. It drives off of your reaction, right. It
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: wants you to like be shocked so that you find
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: out more.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that moment.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Of adrenaline for you. Yeah, and your world it becomes
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: your beliefs. That's what pungs.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's so true. And in social media, with
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the marketing and the algorithms, everything they're selling you just
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: is perpetuating the idea that you're not good enough without
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: this product that I have for you.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, well, and this is what's interesting, you know.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: And this really shifted on my own entrepreneurial journey, Melissa.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know how this is for you, but when
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: I began, I was in all of that like, oh
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: my gosh, how do you create an online business? How
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: do you sell how? Blah blah blah. Right, So I
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: was in that like like am I going to say
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: it right? Am I going to do it right? And
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: then that energy it's never right. No, there's no trust
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: in that energy. It doesn't flow. But you can try
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: to push hard enough to like keep the business calling.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: And so when I really dropped into this, like, oh,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I mean when I remember when I shifted out of
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: scarcity into abundance freedom, Like that is ultimate freedom, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: that's what we want to We want that to be
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: emanating out into the field. That's how we're going to
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: change the collective. But if we keep plugging into the
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: scarcity systems, then that's going to keep me warm. So
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: when I shifted into the abundance, I remember when I
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: finally I was like, oh my gosh, when I show
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: up with people, I don't want to work with everyone. Yeah,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: not for everyone, Like it's so operating to be in
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: that space. And now if you have a call with me,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: at the end of the call, I'm like, look, I
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: love your empowered yes, and I love your empowered no.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: And most people have no idea how to be in
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: alignment with an empowered no because they have all the
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: stories about selling or pressure, the distrust or whatever, so
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: they can't even be in the space where they can
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: actually receive from somebody and stay in their self integrity
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: and that empowered. No, and that will take you so
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: far in life when you can be in that space.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes so much sense to me. No, I
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: think I'm going I'm more and more in that. Like
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I started the YouTube channel. I mean I've had it
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: for years, but I hadn't really done anything with it
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: until last and when last year and I started, and
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I'm like just gonna do what
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: i want. I'm gonna talk about what I want. I'm
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: going to share what I learned to I'm learning to
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: row just like just and whoever shows up shows up,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: you know, Like I can't and I don't. I don't
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: spend time on social media scrolling and scrolling and scrolling
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: and scrolling through these stories. Like I watch a lot
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: of YouTubers that are talking about well conversations we're having.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of astrologers, Like like I've
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: totally tapped out of the news. I'm at the marketing
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: like I'm not interested anymore. Like I want authenticity. That's
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: what I'm looking for, and that's what I'm hoping that
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I am portraying. And that's why I love having guests on.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I love having conversations like this because I think more
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: people hearing this is like, well, yeah, it kind of
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: feels the same way, like don't sell to me, don't
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: don't you know, tell me that everything's going to be
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: all right if I take your program and then I
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: spend thousands of dollars and then it's not you know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: like I want like like like I think collectively, we're
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: coming to this more and more. Do you see that
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: like happening more and more.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The reality is the higher our consciousness rises, the
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: less we're available for any untruths, right, because you can
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: we feel the truth now. Before we could kind of
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: snowball us. We just kind of went with like that
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: scarcity selling and that feeling, and it's like okay, I
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: need that, I need that. Well, now we have more sovereignty,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: we have more discernment. It's happening at a cellular level, right.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: The more that we hear these generational patterns, the stories,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: the limiting beliefs, we cleared it out of the cells.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Now your cells are open and available to alchemize the light,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: the plasmic light, the light codes that are always all
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: around us. The more you do that, the more you
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: have that ultimate discernment from within. And you know, the
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: reality is selling is serving. Everybody who's selling is serving
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: in some way. Maybe they're serving themselves. You're gonna discern
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: when the person who is selling to you is serving
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: from a heart based place.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, that's it. That's it. It's like, yeah, from
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: a heart heart based place, which feels much different than
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: very when it's not predatory. I don't like it when
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: it feels very predatory, like where they're going off your
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: insecurities and like you need this because if you don't
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: have that, then you're going to be left out from
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine percent of the population. You know.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Like that to me is like I'm like, shut up.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: You know, well, so.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: This is where we have to decide as a collective
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: to focus our belief and attention on the heartbeat experiences. Yeah,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: well we have to withdraw Like this is you know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: anything that you don't want in your life, Stop feeding
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: it with the nutrients that you're giving it, Withdraw the energy,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: starve it out, move it towards what you desire. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: if we desire more people that are serving because you know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: people that come into my world their lives change, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: had they not been into my world, they were on
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: a trajectory of that not happening.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: For the rest of the years.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does not behoove me to not shout it
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: from the mountaintop mountaintops what I have. But when I
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: know in my heart I'm not for everyone and I'm
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: gined with that, and I can trust you in your
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: empowered decision, then we're all showing up in that place
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: of sovereignty and me together and there's no story. There's
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: no story about me selling. There's no story about them,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: you know, having some kind of feeling about me selling.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, no, I can hear this, I can
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: receive this, I can own this for other people. And
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: it might not be for me right now, but this
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: is where so many people it's coming up or oh,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: it's coming up big. The nervous system set point where
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: people aren't moving to their next level and they're using
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: their logical reasons as to why not. It's loud and
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: the mercury retrograde that's happening right now is giving us
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: so much incredible information. Last week, I had the resistance,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I had the feelings. I had the emotion, and it
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: was about my business, and I had my mind had
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: decided I'm not investing in anything else. I'm just I've
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: got too much going on. I've got the book coming out,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Yeah, the mercury retrograde showed me what
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I'm still doing in my business that I don't want
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: to be doing. That I haven't wanted to be doing
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: for a long time. And that was a moment where
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, are you going to continue or are
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: you not? And I made the biggest investment up last
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: week because of it. But most people I have practiced
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: doing that. I have practiced getting the feeling and getting
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: the information and then seeing what I'm still trying to
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: drag along because of those logical reasons. I don't know
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: if you read this book, Melissa, ten X is better
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: than two X?
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: No, I've never even heard of it. Yeah, I'm going
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: to look it up.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't read the whole thing, but I've I
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: only had to get into a little bit of it.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, is better than two X, Now, I'll look it up. Now,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I haven't even heard of it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all trying to two X our life to
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: stay safe because the nervous system wants to stay safe. Yeah,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: instead of doing the unknown thing, we do the just
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: tiptoeing into the new thing. Yeah, and you know, the
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: results are comparable to what we're doing. So if you're
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: going to ten x, it's actually easier than two X.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: But you have to go all in on yourself. You
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: can't have the oh, you can't track on that. You've
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: got to like have the decision of the timeline or
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: the ultimate outcome and let.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Go of the how right, and like, yeah, that's the
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: hard thing, letting go of the how right, letting go
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: of the how and then the okay, when the how
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: and the when when when? Right? That's the other thing.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: When when's are going to show up? Now? Now, do
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: people who are dealing with health issues? Do you work
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: with people? I mean, you're obviously not a medical doctor
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: and you can't give medical advice, but do you work
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: with people on who are having physical illnesses? Also?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: So, what's the root of physical illness? Right? It's stressed?
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's true, of course.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing that we're not looking at because
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: we hear there's all these other reasons for it. But
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: we don't realize that the activator of it is stress.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: So I do know about epigenetics quite extensively, and I
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: work with the cells because I work in that somatic
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: psycho connection, especially with the John Barnes work that I
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: do when I'm in person and retreats like this is huge,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: That's where I've levitated before. But you know, even if
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: you if there's something genetic that comes through, what's the environment?
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: The environment has to be there in order for it
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: to express. Usually the environment is our belief Like we
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: already were like, yeah, this is genetic, right, we just
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: keep that rolling.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we keep it going. It's genetics right.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so you've got to look at what's the
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: environment of your cells, and that's going to come down
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: to your beliefs and the state of your body. In stress,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: we don't heal, and if we're in chronic stress, we
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: don't heal. Yeah, you are the greatest healer that has
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: ever walked the earth. For yourself. If you know doctor
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Joe Despens's work, you know that that's possible. But you
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: might be oh, no, that's for other people, or I
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: didn't do it right, or I'm not good enough to
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: do it the way other people. That's like the mirror
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: outside of me. Yeah. Again, it comes down to your belief.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: So this is where you've got to get down deep
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: into these weeds.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I know. Well, one of the biggest
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: things that I think of has for me specifically over
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: the last two years is the our meditation I do
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: now in the morning. It's not a silent meditation. It's
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: a visual journey. I go on a visual journey, and
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: so many things have shown up. My sister who passed
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: away has showed up, a dragon has shown up, a
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: spirit guid has shown up. I'm in a place and
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I just let it happen.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: I just go. I go.
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  Speaker 2: Because I tried to silence this brain. Well, I was
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: going against what it was telling me I needed, and
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: it has opened so many things up for me, you know.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so now i'm you know, you know, when
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I'm dealing with health, physical stuff, I talk to myselves.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I talked to my body. I'm in that space, you know,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty interesting. It's
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: it's unbelievable.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: When I decided I was going to feel my abandonment wound,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: because until then I had just decided that I had
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: an abandonment wound, like I had the awareness this is
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  Speaker 3: what happens in the spiritual world too. You've got the
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: awareness like, oh, yeah, I was abandoned. I have this
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: abandonment wound. Now I'm going to hold a boundary and
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: tell all of you what to do in order to
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: cater to my wound. Guess what, that wound just keeps
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: getting stoked over and over. No, it doesn't work right. Yeah,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: So it's like I had to go within. It's not
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: about the people that are abandoning me. I am attracting,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: magnetizing them. So when I decided that I started showing
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: up and doing four hours of practice a day, I
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: was I didn't have the results. I didn't know how
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I was going to get there. I didn't know if
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: I was going to get there. But I just kept
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: showing up. Whatever it was, the breath work, the tapping,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: the meditation, moving my bike four hours a day, and
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I just kept going until there was enough of a
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: breakthrough in the energy, enough of a clearing that the
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: one person showed up across the screen from me. That
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: was like the ultimate abandonment. This comes in my book
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  Speaker 3: by the way. It was the ultimate abandonment and that
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  Speaker 3: was the thing that healed it for good and abandon me.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Not one person can ever abandon me again. And it
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: is glorious.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful. That's a great way to wrap up. We
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: only have like fifty seconds to wrap up. So Laurie's
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  Speaker 2: are anything that you want to leave anybody with and
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: tell people how they can find you if they want
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: to work with you.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So, like I said, my book is
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: coming out very soon. It's called Unstuck, and my website
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: is the Raw and Wildhearts dot com. Like you said,
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: it's linked below. I'm on Instagram, Facebook, I'm going to
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: be creating a substack. I feel like I'm moving towards
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: sub sac. I also do have a YouTube channel, so
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I'll be creating a show along with you on a
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: streaming platform too, So get into my world. I have
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: some amazing freebies. I have the channel activation, free private
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  Speaker 3: podcasts that will change your life. So get in there
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: and I can send you the link, or you can
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: get old me and I can get the link to you.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Perfect. Thank you so much, Laurie. That was such a
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: great conversation. All right, everybody, thanks for listening to Postcards
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: to the Universe with Melissa creating life you crave and
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: wishing everyone a wonderful week. They'll with joy, abundance and
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: love peace. See you next time. Bye, oh