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Baby Angelita · Justice For

justice for: On August 1, 2026, investigators in Monterey County, California were called to a strawberry field where they made a heartbreaking discovery. A newborn baby girl was found dead on the side of a dirt road. As detectives began piecing together what happened, witnesses, vehicle evidence, and surveillance footage started pointing them towards a 14-year-old girl. Investigators thought they were beginning to understand the circumstances surrounding this baby's death, but as they dug deeper, they uncovered information that changed the direction of the entire investigation. What started as a case involving a newborn found in a field would soon become something far more complicated, raising difficult questions about family, abuse, accountability, and who was really a victim in this story. And even as investigators uncovered more of the truth, some of the biggest questions surrounding baby Angelita's death remained unanswered. Welcome back to Justice 4. We are your hosts. I'm Jackie. And I'm Sam. Are you confused? Yeah, bro. I'm fucking confused. Yeah. I I made a guess on what this what happened c after pictures and I'm She's very wrong. I'm very wrong. So before we get into the absolute tragedy that's been unfolding over the past couple months, we need to do a couple shameless plugs. They're gonna be quick, I promise. is it this week? My god it is It is this week. We have our live show this week. We are so excited You guys, we record these in advance, so sometimes we have to do the math about what week we're in really quick. And neither of us are math leads. No, we're not. So there are still tickets available. Go ahead and grab them in the link below wherever you're watching or listening. they're also gonna be on our Facebook, on Instagram, and also on our website. If you go on there, pop-up will pop up and lead you straight to a link for tickets. There's a costume contest. We have a great episode. It's gonna be a lot of fun. 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At eight thirty AM, Monterey County Sheriff's Deputies and EMS responded to a call in the one hundred block of Struve Road, which is this literally just happened. Yeah, so just happened. Okay. And Strove Road is a dirt road that runs through agricultural fi agriculture fields. Don't know why that's so hard to say it now. This particular area is strawberry fields. Alright? When they arrived, they found a newborn baby in the dirt on the shoulder of the road. With extensive crush type injuries and what appeared to be a tire impressions. I beg your finest pardon? And the dirt around the baby was soaked in blood, along with another large blood stain that was located a few feet away. Unfortunately there was nothing that could be done and at eight forty six AM baby Angelita, as we now know her, was pronounced dead. Immediately detectives began interviewing potential witnesses, trying to locate any CCTV footage that potentially could be in the area. Was she a Jane Doe? Yes. Okay. Pretty quickly detectives started to piece together what they believed happened. Mm-hmm. And multiple witnesses told detectives that they saw a beige mercury sedan parked where baby Angelita was found earlier that morning. They said that a teenager was driving it and that they had seen her driving that car before. a time frame and a description of the car was enough for detectives to use flock cameras, which is a fancy word for a license plate reader. That's all it is. to find the beige mercury travel traveling to and from the scene around the time of the incident. Okay. And this beige Mercury was registered to Sergio Perez and Ophelia Ortega. Two days later on August third, a forensics examination of baby Angelita was conducted, but the final autopsy report is still pending to this day. What? Or are they just not releasing it? They haven't, yeah. It might be done, but they haven't released it to us or but sometimes it takes a while. I mean that's fair. Yeah. Especially with babies, I couldn't have a button. At approximately 2 35 p.m. that same day, detectives executed a search warrant at the residence of Sergio Perez and Ophelia Ortega. Like we are moving and grooving. Okay? Investigators seized phones, the beige mercury sedan, interviewed the family, and obtained DNA samples. Most importantly, they wanted to speak to the teenager who was seen driving the Mercury on August first. Okay. Police eventually found their 14-year-old daughter hiding beneath a pile of clothes in a bedroom closet. What the fuck? Detectives instantly separated Diana from her parents to interview her. She said that she had a sexual relationship with another teenager, and then she later gave birth, but she wouldn't tell them who the father of the baby was. Upon learning that she had received no medical attention since the birth that morning, detectives decided to take her straight to the hospital to be checked out, and ultimately they admitted her to the hospital for care. Well actually been a couple days, so we were like two days later, and she hadn't been to the hospital or a doctor or anything. So all of this prompted detectives to open a sexual assault investigation that is separate from the murder investigation they currently have. Okay. So before I get into text messages and the twist that this investigation is about to take, let me take a moment to tell you about Sergio and Ophelia and their family. Okay. 38-year-old Sergio was a full-time musician while 36-year-old Ophelia worked in the agricultural fields. They have five children altogether, with Diana being the oldest. Ophelia had actually pulled Diana from school and had her working in the strawberry fields with her. As for the other children, I'm not sure if they were in school or stayed home. There's not much information out there on them, which is okay. That's she was four fifteen fourteen. And driving? Yeah, so fourteen year old Diana was allowed to drive the family car and often driving herself and her mom to and from work every day. Was that literally your name slide? Yeah, that's crazy. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So that's how people pretty much, you know, helped identify like they knew it because they'd seen this car, they'd seen her driving the car specifically, so it really kinda helped police. They just needed to confirm it with the flock cameras going in and out at the time. Makes sense. You know? Okay. Okay. So let's talk about those text messages that were found on Diana's phone from August first, which is the day that baby Angelita was found. I love text messages. I know you do. So at twelve two PM, Diana texted her father that she could no longer hold the baby. and had given birth and then hit the baby because she feared her mother's reaction. Five minutes later at twelve seven, Diana searched what happens if the cops find a newborn baby from a minor. There were also other searches related to hiding or terminating a pregnancy that began months earlier, and of course searches about how to disable an iPhone's location. Okay. So these messages alone raised enough questions for detectives to head back to the hospital and talk to Diana some more. On August fourth, detectives learned that Sergio removed Diana from the hospital before she was medically discharged. And immediately detectives made a CPS report and start coordinating efforts to find Diana and also keep an eye on her minor siblings. But Diana and Sergio were not at their home, and Ophelia and other family members and friends were no help in trying to locate them. So over the next few days, detectives executed several more search warrants for more phone data, call records, and location information, as well as medical records. The Mercury was forensically examined and investigators found suspected blood evidence in the front right wheel well. yeah, okay. Which they say corresponds with the tire impressions indicating that the front right wheel ran over baby Angelita. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. Witness statements, phone records, video, and work time cards indicate that the teenager drove herself and her mother to the field, on Shrove Road that day. Okay. Meanwhile, call records, license plate reader data, and video placed Sergio in the San Francisco Bay Area at the time of the incident. Investigators say that they have not found clear evidence that he encouraged or otherwise participated in the baby's death. Okay. He just kidnapped his own daughter. Right now, that's crazy. Witnesses say the teenager got into the driver's seat shortly before the car left the scene, which is supported by later blood evidence found in the interior of the car. Detectives believe the car ran over the baby as it departed, and other video and witness statements indicate that the teenager regularly drove the mercury, like we've stated. Right? Right? So all of the what? I guess technically all the reports are just saying that she's the one that got in the driver's seat and left and that the Ophelia didn't get in the passenger. Yeah, Ophelia wasn't with her at this point. Yeah, so maybe she just like drove to pick her up at a certain They since she drove I I'm assuming that since she drove a lot, she had the keys. They went to work. Mm-hmm. Diana felt contractions and stuff, decided to walk off, got in the car, drove to another location had the baby, did all this and then went back to work with her mom. I think that's also Jesus Christ. I think that's also in my brain where the second blood spot, bigger blood spot is 'cause that's her giving birth. Yeah. Was the placenta everything still there? Do we know? That hasn't been said in anything that I've been able to find. Like honestly, this was this was the most case with the most useful press conference I've ever had. It was thirty-five minutes of hardcore information. Like most of this comes from a thirty-five minute press conference where they had like members of the FBI team, other members who came up and spoke specifically on their parts of the case. Like I have never seen such a well done press conference where I ended it I was like I mean I think I'm happy. I don't really have questions. I mean I have questions, but you guys did an excellent job giving us what you could give us. Because we're gonna get into where the public actually came in on this case. Okay. And a lot of what I've told you no one knew. So when we get there you're gonna understand why this case was very confusing at first. Okay. Okay. I have one more question. Yes. Y you might answer this later. Did Ophelia know she was pregnant? No. Did it mm what? I do not know. Okay. We'll get there. Clearly Sergio did since she texted him. It's believed, yes. She texted him. Yes. Go on. I mean, but like that's the we don't have any other confirmation from him. We just have that text message that one can assume. Yeah. But Okay. We don't have you know what I mean? You'll see in a second. Great. So all of this led to a judge authorizing a RAIMY arrest warrant on August eleventh for fourteen year old Diana on suspicion of murder. What is a Ramey arrest warrant, you may ask? Thank you for seeing my f I don't know if you even saw my face on like what the fuck is that? Because I certainly had never heard of one before. I you can literally see my face on my Yeah. So basically it's a special type of arrest warrant in California that law enforcement officers obtain directly from a judge based on probable cause. So they bypass the district attorney altogether, but once arrested on a Raymear warrant, the DA has forty-eight hours to officially file charges. So it's a warrant without file charges. It's a we believe you did this. Probable cause warrant. Yes. Okay. But without having to have a dri district attorney approve it and file charges, the judge can just do it. So there's no charges filed, but there's a warrant out for her. Yeah. For the murder. So this was broadcast everywhere. Okay. And this is where the story first got news traction. All right? Mm hmm. And there was there was a mix of reactions when this first came out because they released the details of her murder and they also released that she was on the run with her father. So the narrative wasn't really clear technically, I guess. And it left a lot of people wondering if she was a victim or if he made her kill the baby, but the confusion worked because it spread the story really fast. But there's a lot of people who were like, Isn't she a victim? Or is anybody not connecting that she's fourteen and this could be his baby? So like there was just a lot of things happening. A lot of assumptions and stuff, and it was just very weird. Okay. So this is where I need y'all to buckle up. Because August nineteenth is when everything changed. And I mean absolutely everything. Yes, it's been 18 days. Okay. Okay. Thank you for math for me. The DNA results indicated that the father of baby Angelita is none other than Sergio Perez himself. Diana's own biological father. I'm sure y'all had figured that out by now. But detectives were completely blindsided. Nothing they uncovered up to this point pointed towards Sergio being the father or that there was any abuse happening in the family. What do you mean? in the phones and everything, they they've had that one text message. Yeah. But outside of that there was nothing. Okay, we don't know what goes on behind closed doors and they aren't even around. How would we but they were in all their 'cause remember they've taken phones, they've taken location like medical all of that. Okay. So investigators immediately obtain a Remy arrest warrant Sergio for separate felony sexual assault allegations. Period. At this point, detectives are trying to figure out who knows what and how much everyone knows. So they revisit the family and try to get information about where Diana and Sergio are now, which was just as useful as it was the last time they tried. They have no idea. Okay. But they did conduct forensic interviews of the other minor siblings to investigate whether they are additional victims. but there didn't seem to be any other abuse going on in the home with the other children. Thank God. I know. Okay. Five days later, on August 24th, investigators obtained a video showing Sergio and his daughter together in Salinas, California, on August 4th. Salinas. So that was the day that he took her out of hospital. And that was the day after the search warrant was served. Yeah. And yeah. But the local efforts to find them remained un unsuccessful. Like they could not find them locally. They but it wasn't until the twenty-fourth, twenty days later, that they f obtained a video of them on the fourth. Got it. But tips began to come in to suggest that they left the area. No way. And they seem to be credible enough because an amber alert for Diana was issued on September sixth. What? A month after she was taken from the hospital by Sergio. Detectives were now publicly changing the narrative to Diana being a victim as well. What made him do that, Jackie? Well, I I'm gonna assume the fact that they can't find them. He was the father of the baby. yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know, the conclusion we came to from the beginning. I hope you guys enjoyed watching my face figure out. I knew this was gonna be a really good face episode. Jesus. My my thoughts on this. I'm surprised that there was enough for an amber alert. But also, a month later, fuck off. Also, isn't it really funny that most parental abductions don't qualify under an Amber Alert, but this one does? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's very interesting, how long the umbrella, it was twenty days later. it wasn't right after Sergio took her from the hospital because they were still trying like they didn't know. They had they were looking at this case as a 14-year-old and another 15, 14, whatever year old got pregnant, had a baby, and she killed her baby, but they were trying to figure out how this happened. They weren't even thinking about a father who was sexually abusing her and then took her and where he could be hiding her because now he's in trouble. Yeah. You know? So they were investigating a case one way and they weren't even investigating the correct like the case correctly. Yeah. Until you know what I mean? So just that's why this was so slow to roll out with the information, 'cause they didn't have it. Yeah. I wonder if they had to somehow like find a loophole or something to be able to put out an amber alert so because people pay attention to amber alert. They I think it was once they got Once they figured out that they weren't in the area and the DNA and stuff, I think it's once they could really confirm they weren't in the area, then they put out the ambular they I think It just depends I don't know, this is interesting and pushing being able to push Well, I think the other part for the Ember alert could be him taking her from the hospital. Yeah. But I mean we could have put that out earlier. But earlier, whenever first seven just looked like he was aiding and abetting her. Yeah. I don't think it was till after he was proven to be the father and all that. And they're like, hey This is a problem. This is getting weird. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Okay. So the next major break in the case came on September 14th, when a tip from a member of the media was investigated and led to the possibility Location for Sergio and Diana in Mexico. I fucking knew it. Over the next few weeks, the FBI and Mexican authorities coordinated a search which resulted in Mexican authorities locating and safely recovering Diana and arresting Sergio on local drug possession charges. God damn, what? I mean, I think he was a little stressed from being on the run and he needed a little thought of something. Alright, man. FBI says US authorities are working with the Department of Justice on his extradition currently. Okay. There is no talk of extraditing Diana. There is still a Ramey warrant on her in California, but no talk of official charges being filed. Sheriff Tina Nieto described her as a child who had been rescued and emphasized that she was also a victim of an alleged sexual abuse by her father. Mexican child welfare authorities took responsibility for her. immediate safety and care and that's where she currently remains. Okay. We'll talk about that more in a second. In addition to Sergio's drug possession charges, he picked up in Mexico. He was also formally charged in Monterey County with three felony counts in the sexual abuse case. the complaint alleges a loot act upon a child under 14 with an enhancement alleging great bodily injury. Okay. Pregnancy. Incest, child abuse, and the alleged conduct spans between November twenty twenty five to August twenty twenty six. Okay. And these charges concern the alleged abuse of Diana, not Baby Angelita's death. Okay. In fact there are currently no charges for the murder of Baby Angelita. At all. At at all across the board, there's no charges. No. Which I don't really get, but I get. Well that's what I'm confused about why they're not gonna extradite Diana back for the murder of the baby. She has a warrant. She has a Raimi arrest warrant. 'Cause there's no fucking charges. And she's a minor, and Mexico law doesn't allow the extradition of minors. And she's not actually charged with murder. So s if Mexico keeps her in their Custody, she does not have to be transported back to California to be charged. But even if she does get a charge, Mexico doesn't extradite minors. So she could potentially never even be charged with this if she decides to stay in Mexico. I have a quick question. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. So like I understand what it looks like she did. Obviously. Uh-huh. Part of me and I think this is just the mom in me, I think this is the human in me. Part of me wants to think that she like put the baby under the car. and then pulled away turning and didn't think the baby was where the baby was. Mm. But the evidence says otherwise. But in my head I wanna really think that that part was accidental and she thought she was hiding the baby. I don't know where she thought the baby was gonna go and the car moved. We don't need about that. But I don't know. She clearly moved the baby. Yes. So I We don't know obviously we know a little bit of what her upbringing is. Yeah. We don't really know if she obviously she's not a normal fourteen year old socially in all the skills because we've been pulled out of school, we've been working in the fields, we've been abused by our parents. We don't know what we're do you know. We also don't know if this a I mean, obviously she's a victim. I'm not saying And obviously she knows right from wrong, but in this situation I'm also wondering if Is this like a Stockholm syndrome? And she was scared of her mom's reaction to finding out what to do. is this one of those like this was the better option for me because if my parents found out it was if my mom found out it was going to be worse because mom didn't know about the abuse. Yeah. I don't believe. We're gonna talk more about mom here in a second. I I have so many questions about mom just from the pictures you've shown me. So I've been waiting for this to be brought up. But we'll get to that in a second. I okay. I I'm you I'm gonna go. She's a victim, but she's also we don't know was responsible for the death without anybody being around to pressure her to do this. Yeah. And it wasn't discussed in text messages with her dad. So like I don't know if like this was basically her only thing that she could think of in this moment. Yeah. Not that it excuses it, but it's just I'm so torn on how I feel about her role in that. how I feel about her staying safely in Mexico or her being held responsible for this because yes, she did something horrible, but like look at everything around it. Yeah. I also I jit my mind keeps going to Stockholm. I don't know why my intuition is telling me that this is a because she has she can drive and do everything, so like why wouldn't she just leave? Exactly. Like she And she's fourteen. But we've heard of other stories where people leave at fourteen, fifteen, whatever to get away from abuse and other stuff. And like I understand her mom would be mad about a baby, but like you're with your mom every single day. Yeah. If you're close enough with your mom, why wouldn't you tell her what's going on? You know what I mean? But I at the same time I'm going back to Stephen Stearns and Madeline Soto, like Yeah. I don't know, man. Just weird. What the fuck? This world is a sick place. Sick people. Okay. So we still have one more person with charges to talk about. Okay. And I kinda skipped over this earlier, but Ophelia actually caught charges back in August in the beginning of the investigation. She was arrested and released on bail. and then she was arrested again with new charges after Sergio and Diana were located. What do you mean? So let's talk about her charges and her cases real quick. So in August Ophelia was arrested on suspicion of child endangerment and she posted a fifty thousand dollar bail and was released. Okay. This was for her not being in school and working in the fields with her mom. that was her child endangerment charges. I mean, yeah, it's child labor laws are real fun. And her driving without a license, her allowing her to drive without a license, that was the other part of it because that's also child endangerment. Yes. That's more than just child endangerment. Endangerment to everyone around. Pretty much. Although Also, being fourteen and driving underage without your permitting or license with your mom in the car, I bet she was a hella safe driver because on October 6th, she was arrested again and faced four newly reported charges. Okay. Two felony counts involving displaying or possessing a forged identification card, one misdemeanor count of permitting a child to suffer or be endangered, and one misdemeanor count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Her bail was increased to 150,000, and these allegations all center On the prosecutor's claims that Ophelia used falsified documentation to have Diana work in the agricultural fields starting at age 13, allowing her to drive without a license and keeping her out of school for months. So we just kind of upgraded, you know, we added on to those charges. Ophelia pleaded not guilty to all charges on October 8th, and she was unable to make bail, so she is still being held in custody. On October twentieth, there is a preliminary hearing to determine the status of the first charges from August and to see if there's enough evidence to formally charge her with felony charges. Okay. As of this recording, we still do not have what happened in that hearing or the outcome of it. It's not being reported on anywhere, it's just reporting that there was a hearing or she was supposed have a hearing. And I literally just checked before we started recording to make sure there wasn't any updates on the outcome, but no one has really reported on that. So I don't know if it was a no cameras allowed thing, if If it there's no reporting that it got postponed. Interesting. Even if there's no cameras allowed, most places still put out what happened. And she does have to have a translator. Okay. we had a delay in like her first hearing because they got a translator, but it wasn't the correct dialect. Bummer. Yeah. Because it's not just Spanish that we need it for, it's like a specific dialect. Okay. That we are using. Interesting. Okay. So yeah, that is where all of this stands. Diana's being taken care of in Mexico, Ophelia's behind bars awaiting trial, and Sergio is in Mexico being held in jail awaiting extradition. And there are still no charges for baby Angelia's murder. And this is normally the part where I tell you all about our victim and ask if we got justice. But there's no justice here unless you consider Diana no longer being subjected to her father's abuse, then yes we have this much justice. We have a sliver. The smallest sliver of justice for Diana to a point. Yes. Huh. and there is no information on baby Angelita because she was probably only an hour old. I don't even say an hour. Nope. And Because the family is more concerned with keeping secrets than talking about this or trying to help or do any of this. So I don't have a picture of baby Angelita at all, obviously. But I do have these memorials that were made at the strawberry fields on the side of that road by other workers in the fields and things, which I just thought was absolutely beautiful and they held like a little like vigil type thing for her because in their in some quotes that I was reading, like this was a baby, like this is we are still going to love and be here even if like the family won't. Yeah. So I think that's really beautiful that the else I'm almost I would almost be positive that I don't know if police or workers name the baby baby Angelina. I don't know who gave the baby that name if it came from Ophelia or the family or anybody. Okay. But that is the name that they use in the press conference. That is the name that's been put out with it. Interesting. so yeah Yeah. And in the press conference it's very odd because they refer to Diana as Jane Doe. Throughout the entire thirty five minute press conference that happened After but they released her name in the Amber Alert and the other stuff and I listened to like one podcast like little update episode and they also referred to her as Jane Doe and I was like, But I swear I saw her name and then I could find her name everywhere. Some articles refer to her as Jane Doe also. Did the hearing happen before? No, the press conference? Yeah. No, it happened after he like they were found in Mexico, Sergio was waiting extradition 'cause they laid it all out for us in a timeline. I wonder if they're doing that like because she's a minor and they're trying And now a victim and Yeah, which like I understand I am Jane Doe. But but at the same time, like We already have her name out. We did. And I was I understand I'm in a bitchy mood today. She fucking killed a baby. She did. And they're still viewing her as a victim. She is a victim. It's just a very complicated complex. Yes, it's very complex how to view her and what to do. I've never I never thought that we would find a gray area involving this. Yeah. And this is a very extremely grey area. And I don't know you know what I mean? Like I I agree. obviously it was desperation, but at the same time, like I still can't be like, it's okay. You know? Like, okay, you guys know how I feel about Skylar Richardson and you know how we feel about f fuck I can't even think of her name right now. Alexei Trevizo. Fucking hoe. I And that's where my thoughts on her being scared of her mom come into play. Yeah. Because we saw the power of Alexis mom over her and how she was more terrified of her mother finding out she gave birth than she was of the consequences of killing her own baby in a hospital. Absolutely. So like that's where I I can see start to side with the panic and that this was a better option in her fourteen year old brain that is not educated. You know what I And she may not have actually meant to do you see where like I don't know she understand to do that but it still happen yes and that's what's frustrating to me what I mean like I'm not trying to be an absolute fucking dick but like at the same time No this is we may never see fucking justice for this baby. Yeah and that's heartbreaking. What the fuck? It's infuriating what the fuck Okay. Yeah. So I've been following this since the Amber Alert or the Raimi Warrant went out. Yeah. Before the Amber alert went out, 'cause like when the Amber alert went out, I was like, There we go. I was like, All right, we were we were all aware that they weren't on the run together. I legitimately have never heard of this before. She was like, You haven't? No. Yeah. Because I just yeah, it's but once I listened to the press conference and I heard the timeline laid out, I understood why the public was so confused and why they waited so long to put information out, it's because they didn't have the information. They didn't know it yet. That's fine. I just I was also floored by the amount of time between her leaving the hospital and the Amber alert. Yeah. With the Raimi warrant coming first. It was crazy. I don't know. I'm hmm my mind has been surrounded by another case I'm currently working on. I cannot wait to read this case to you. I'm excited for it. okay. It's not coming out for a couple a few more weeks, guys, but like That's where my mind has been lately. that's all I can think about lately. It's really bad. So we will most definitely when updates happen on this, they'll be on our socials, but we'll also probably throw it in WTF. Please. when it does. We also have the Mom to Bot trial. Naresh Bot is on trial for the murder of Mom to Bot. and the trial's still happening. Yes, it is still happening. There's no cameras in the courtroom, so we just get the daily recording afterwards. But there's been a lot of body cam footage shown, and then we have a lot of recordings of that. Like you can't live stream it, but you can record things. In the courtroom. you guys don't know who Mom Tabot is. We've had a couple of couple. We've had her on a WTF, I'm pretty sure, like a pretty decent one, like in our season one. And then we did update coverage. Update coverage in season two and three of what was going on. And now we have trial and we've been waiting. We've been waiting Yeah, so because there there was there's information, but there wasn't a lot, a lot of information. We're getting everything now, and Nara Naresh is my god. how we love dumb criminals? Yes. I think he might be one of the dumbest criminals we've had. And we've had some pretty dumb ones. And we didn't realize this until trying. The only part of him not being dumb is the fact that they still can't find her body. Mm-hmm. but they they show some pretty good videos of where it went. Yeah. So we will definitely be doing a trial recap for that once it's all done. I have been keeping up on it. I knew if there's some updates out there, but without being able to direct you guys to a live stream every It's kinda hard. Yeah. so that is coming and I'm excited for it. We did also have a small Deborah Nichols update. Yes, yes, for the right before episode last week. Yep, and then we had a more in depth one. Yeah, so we're gonna keep an eye on where that trial's going. And yeah, that's kind of where we're at. Wrapping up October and I can't believe it's already November and like Christmas is almost here. I feel like this year has just flown by. Yeah. Yeah. It has. Like we're gonna be a season four sooner than later. my gosh. Which is wild. Absolutely wild. So make sure you I bought my ticket. For Crimecon? Yeah. Yay. Do that too. Buy your tickets for Crime Con, they're just gonna get more expensive. We've seen that hotels have been getting sold out. I've been seeing no the host hotels sold out. if you need help with hotels in the Orlando resort area, let me know. I'm really good at it. I'm a Disney queen. I love other stuff. I like to ball in a budget. Let me know if you need some hotel help. but yeah. We are super excited for Crime Con. We're super excited for our live show. We have some other fun lives in the works for after the new year. Voodoo's already asking when we're coming back. Yeah we we'll probably be at Voodoo again before the end of the year. Just 'cause it's fun. Yeah. And we enjoy it. We were originally thinking like, we'll wait till after the holidays, but like It's fun. So yeah, that's that's where make you like, follow, subscribe to everywhere. It is free ninety nine. We are almost to a thousand followers on YouTube. We are like a hundred and twenty away. I think so. Something like that. So go follow us on YouTube, even if you don't listen there. yeah. Anything else you got? Bro, no. I'm so excited to see you guys on Friday. Ugh, I'm so excited. It's gonna be so fun. So much fun. We can't wait. And also Halloween's my favorite, so like this is just like It really is your favorite. It's my dream. I feel like what's her name? Chris Jenner. It's my dream. It's my dream. This is literally my dream. Alright. Alright, you guys. We will catch you on Friday for most of you. Please get your ticket for it. And if not, then we'll catch you guys next week for an all new deep dive episode. Stop fucking killing each other. Walk your damn doors. Don't leave your fucking friends. Okay? Love you. Bye.