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- 1:23Hello everyone, Welcome to the Coffee People podcast.
- 1:26I'm your host, Ryan Wolt. This show is presented by Rostar
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- 1:34I'm here on the free coffee tour, which is part of our Roast
- 1:37West Coast newsletter with our guest today, Jillian Quince.
- 1:42Hi, Jillian. Could you tell everyone where we
- 1:45are and what the name of your coffee shop is?
- 1:48So we are in Del Tina Coffee Roasters.
- 1:51We are in our San Luis Obispo, CA location.
- 1:54We have a second location in Oceano, California.
- 1:57Oceano is where our roastery is, and then this is a dedicated
- 2:01cafe. And I had talked to your
- 2:03husband, Jack, when it was just the Oceano and this was still
- 2:07kind of out there in the world. How is this spot different from
- 2:11the original spot which I passed on the highway up?
- 2:15It, it they, so they both have incredibly different vibes.
- 2:19There's, I mean, they're all still founded in the fact that
- 2:22we're a roastery at the end of the day, it's our coffee, it's
- 2:24our organic coffee, it's our specialty coffee.
- 2:28But this is definitely because it's a dedicated Cafe.
- 2:30You see more food options, you see, and where this location
- 2:34happens to be a lot closer to a college campus, we're right next
- 2:37to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. So we get a lot more student
- 2:40traffic in here, a lot of people, more people walking to
- 2:44the shop as opposed to parking. Whereas the Oceano store, it's a
- 2:47dedicated roastery. It's very industrial inside.
- 2:51This one is bright and white and all the things, whereas that one
- 2:55has kind of, it's more Moody and it certainly has darker Moody,
- 2:59Moody. I would Moody industrial if
- 3:01that, if that's the thing, it's. Like a it's a question.
- 3:04It's like a roastery questioning itself.
- 3:06What it wants to be potentially maybe maybe it's chameleon in a
- 3:11way, but like they're the theme. It's everything is kind of black
- 3:16and white as kind of our main theme.
- 3:17And then we have an unofficial like green slash teal for our
- 3:21colors. We're still building some
- 3:23branding, but yes, so that particular because it's an
- 3:28exposed ceiling in that location.
- 3:30So there's concrete floors. So definitely has more of an
- 3:34earthiness to it, whereas this is definitely feels more of a
- 3:37like a cafe. Well, I came in and I
- 3:39immediately went back to my car, grabbed my laptop and like sat
- 3:42down because it felt like the kind of place I would do that.
- 3:45As we're sitting here, there's students kind of walking in and
- 3:47out behind the camera. Over here.
- 3:51You mentioned branding. I I've always known it as Del
- 3:55Tina, but there was a different name before that.
- 3:57Where did the name Del Tina come from?
- 4:00And if I'm not mistaken, it's a throwback to this region.
- 4:03Yes. So yes, we had to change our
- 4:05name. That was an unfortunate mishap.
- 4:08But so Quintessa was the original name.
- 4:12The the new name is Del Tina Coffee Roasters.
- 4:17Del Tina is actually named after Oceano.
- 4:20When we were on the quest for a new name, we did want to kind of
- 4:27throw back to the Oceano area. The Oceano community was one of
- 4:32one of the reasons why we survived COVID, and so it felt
- 4:35like a proper homage to them to include them somehow in the new
- 4:38name. We found through the trade
- 4:40marking process and a bunch of different things that using a
- 4:43city as a name is very difficult if if able to do it all.
- 4:49But Del Tina was actually one of the original names they
- 4:51considered for Oceano. Oh, that's interesting.
- 4:54So one of the local historians has a newspaper article from
- 4:581892 where they go through the different names that they're
- 5:02considering. Oceano was one of the names they
- 5:04were considering. Deltino is one of the names.
- 5:06And then they had a third that I don't quite remember.
- 5:09I don't remember the third, but they ultimately chose Oceano.
- 5:14Deltina was the reason why Deltina was considered is
- 5:19because Oceano is actually a delta.
- 5:23It's where the Pismo and the Oceano creeks meet.
- 5:27And so it forms Little Delta and they go out to the ocean.
- 5:30That's where the name Deltina comes from.
- 5:32Then as far as relating it back to the shop, coffee shops are
- 5:37where two people meet. And so it fit really well into,
- 5:41yes, it was the very first full circle moment to have that
- 5:44realization of, oh, we can still name it after this community,
- 5:48but then also have it tie back into coffee as well.
- 5:51I have never been to this community before yesterday.
- 5:55I went camping last night at his Lake Creek campground.
- 5:58Unbelievable. I recommend it to anyone coming
- 6:02in. How does like this area, which
- 6:07I, it feels a little sleepy, like when I'm driving in just as
- 6:11an outsider, you know, how does how do you build community in
- 6:15that? What did they accept you right
- 6:17away? I know that you had spent time,
- 6:19I think in the Midwest, in Chicago and other places, and
- 6:21came back here. Yes.
- 6:23What has been the challenge of building community and getting
- 6:26them to trust you? That that is, you probably hit
- 6:30the nail on one of the number one challenges, especially for
- 6:32this particular area. Well, to answer your first
- 6:35question, it's the sleepy. There's a reason why slow is the
- 6:38nickname for the area that that not only the San Luis Obispo
- 6:42abbreviation, but it does. There is certainly there's a
- 6:45lifestyle, it feels slower than normal.
- 6:50And then in terms of the second part of your question, and we
- 6:54actually it was our local Chamber of Commerce that really
- 6:57helped us introduce us to other business owners in the area.
- 7:00It was attending networking events because we did not have
- 7:05any foundation in this area. I did grow up near here.
- 7:08I did go to school in San Luis Obispo, but my network had more
- 7:12or less gone by that point. So in terms of where we started
- 7:15the business in Oceano, it was really had to be a natural
- 7:20growth. It had to be us meeting
- 7:23different individuals and just really getting to know the area.
- 7:28And that was how we essentially got our It helped in Oceano to
- 7:35be the only coffee shop in Oceano, and it's the first
- 7:38coffee shop in Oceano in all of its existence.
- 7:40So that helped with the Oceano community.
- 7:44But then in terms of going beyond the Oceano community and
- 7:47building the other cities around that area, it took a lot more of
- 7:51a networking effort to do that and producing a good product was
- 7:56helpful. So word of mouth has been our
- 7:59biggest in terms of this store and the newer store.
- 8:03We have to then redo that for the city of Slow.
- 8:07And so it's going to take a lot more networking on our part to
- 8:10get people to know about our product and know that we are
- 8:14producing a high quality, good tasting organic product that you
- 8:20don't necessarily find on a grocery shelf.
- 8:24Not to get too personal, you can tell me to shut up or we can
- 8:27clip it if you like. When you started the first shop,
- 8:31were you a mom at that time? You were.
- 8:34And I think since you've had more, you're more of a mom, yes,
- 8:38not more of a mom. That's a more often or both.
- 8:43So the right terminology to use here.
- 8:46You're, you're correct. That's the answer, yes.
- 8:49So when we actually, when we started the, the business in
- 8:51Oceania, we had three children all under the age of 6, so 6 and
- 8:55under. Wow.
- 8:57And month after we opened that shop, we got pregnant with
- 9:03twins. So we went from three to five
- 9:07within the first year of the business.
- 9:09And then we had five kids 6 and under at one point when we
- 9:14started so. But at some point, isn't it just
- 9:16like an extra bottle or an extra bowl at all?
- 9:19I don't have kids, so I'm coming at it from a totally different
- 9:21perspective. That was certainly a challenge
- 9:24because I felt like I added not 2 babies, but three babies to to
- 9:27the house between the business and the twins.
- 9:32And then COVID hit within two months of having the twins.
- 9:35So there was a lot, there was a lot going on in a very short
- 9:38period of time. But yes, and actually that I had
- 9:42to step away from the business originally.
- 9:45And Jack ran the business for the first four plus years
- 9:49because I was, I had little tiny humans that needed me.
- 9:53We had I had to home school and it just made more sense from a
- 9:56business perspective to let him dedicate his time to the
- 9:59business and me to dedicate time at home got a little messy
- 10:03sometimes when we were trying to go back and forth and share the
- 10:06responsibility. And so it was just a lot easier
- 10:10to me continue to mom and him continue to work the business.
- 10:12Easier logistically, but I would imagine not emotionally because.
- 10:16Certainly not. Him.
- 10:17He's spending time away from his kids, correct?
- 10:19You're spending time. You are.
- 10:20Male and the other kid, which is the business which I know you
- 10:23get very attached and these are your people.
- 10:26Yes, yes. So making a smart decision for
- 10:30the the business doesn't always the smart decision for you,
- 10:33correct? Person so there was certainly a
- 10:35lot of navigating and a lot of evolving.
- 10:38I think that that's been one of the bigger blessings of having a
- 10:42small business and having five children and kind of having to
- 10:46roll with the punches on a lot of most days.
- 10:51You do you evolve as a person and you learn certain coping
- 10:55mechanisms and then you have to learn how to deal with the
- 10:57emotional stuff. And so I think for Jack and I
- 11:00specifically, it's been a blessing in disguise in some
- 11:03regards because we've been able to work through a lot.
- 11:06Well, you survived a very challenging period.
- 11:09You mentioned surviving COVID and I, I kind of look at it as
- 11:12surviving COVID phase one because I don't feel like we've
- 11:15quite pushed beyond, if we ever will.
- 11:20It has certainly changed the way the world operates.
- 11:25It has changed the way built a business is hire.
- 11:30It's changed the way businesses fire.
- 11:34It's it gives us pause and certain business decisions and
- 11:40the now certainly health standards.
- 11:43There's just all sorts of there's so many different facets
- 11:45that COVID has changed and I don't, I don't even, you know,
- 11:59the next question. Sure, yeah.
- 12:01It's a tough, it's a tough thing, I think with COVID and I
- 12:05just close it out by saying, I know for me it still impacts me
- 12:09every day, even though I don't think about it necessarily every
- 12:12day. And then all of a sudden it's
- 12:14like, oh, wait a minute, this is different because of that.
- 12:16And I spent my career in hospitality pre COVID.
- 12:20And so even now as I talk about, oh, I'm going to maybe get back
- 12:24into it, you know, well, do I do I, that's a different
- 12:28perspective. You're, you're running this
- 12:33business. I've been sitting in here for an
- 12:35hour or two. You have employees that you
- 12:38trust. I'm wondering, you've got your
- 12:41family at home and you have your family here.
- 12:44How much overlap is there now? You know, are these, have they
- 12:49been, are they coming to Thanksgiving?
- 12:50You know, especially college students like what's how do you
- 12:54manage like having a much bigger extended family?
- 12:58Yeah, If we, if we do that, we have about an extended family of
- 13:0120, yes, because we have any at any even point in time probably
- 13:06between 12 and 14 employees. And then we have our obviously
- 13:09our family of seven. So yeah, it's, it feels a lot
- 13:11bigger. the IT changes depending on there's, there's always
- 13:18different employee situations. I do feel like that the staff
- 13:23that we have currently, they're great at working together.
- 13:28It does allow me in some cases when I do have to be a little
- 13:31hands off to be hands off because they communicate really
- 13:34well. But yeah, every and actually,
- 13:38it's funny you bring this up right now, we actually are
- 13:40losing five of our employees. End of the.
- 13:43School year, end of the school year, they're they're all
- 13:45graduating, they're all moving on.
- 13:48Each of the five employees started with us when we
- 13:51originally started in this location.
- 13:53And so they've been with us for two years and they, they feel
- 13:57like my babies. And so I, yeah, it's really hard
- 14:00to say goodbye to them. And I mean, it's hard to turn
- 14:03over the staff too, but it's more about them going and us
- 14:08missing kind of a part of our family.
- 14:10But I'm excited. They live all over the the
- 14:13United States. And so we'll have plenty of
- 14:15people to go visit. Sure.
- 14:17And they become part of the Tree of Altina coffee, Correct.
- 14:20Whatever they go out and do in the world, this is part of their
- 14:23story. Yes, which is exciting.
- 14:25I'm wondering if you have any advice for people watching who
- 14:30may want to start a small business.
- 14:32They want to work with a partner.
- 14:34That's a pretty common theme in theory.
- 14:37Any and or just any general life advice that you know has helped
- 14:40you through getting this going and succeeding I.
- 14:44Can speak to so many different facets of.
- 14:51I can make the question broader if you like.
- 14:54I think you started off pretty well.
- 14:57The biggest Speaking specifically to the partner part
- 15:01of the question, I think trust is the biggest need that needs
- 15:11it. It's it's what makes the
- 15:13relationship work. If you can't trust, if there's
- 15:16any inkling of not being able to trust your partner, that could
- 15:20lead to some pretty because trust is the, the kind of the
- 15:25fundamental step of how you trust.
- 15:28Even in a normal conversation, it gets beyond like the money
- 15:30side of the trust and beyond the business side of the trust.
- 15:33You have to be able to to have conversations with that person.
- 15:36If you don't feel that you can trust yourself to have a
- 15:40conversation with that person or you don't trust what they are
- 15:43feeding back to you, that would be one of my biggest red flags.
- 15:47So in terms of a partnership, trust is huge.
- 15:50I think having, I mean, my husband and I are proof that
- 15:54working styles can be very different and you can still be
- 15:58successful at it. But having making sure that your
- 16:03bigger goals are also in line with the other.
- 16:06And then also knowing that those are going to evolve over time as
- 16:11businesses evolve, as the world evolves, you constantly have to
- 16:16adapt and be at the forefront of that.
- 16:19And so having a partner that's willing to adapt with you is
- 16:24critical. And checking in with each other
- 16:27if those. Because if your goals change,
- 16:28but you don't actually have that conversation, correct?
- 16:31And that gets back to the trust, right?
- 16:32You have to be able to trust that you can have that
- 16:36conversation and both parties be honest in that conversation or,
- 16:41or or know when to walk away. That's the other piece of it is
- 16:45that if you know that you can't evolve with somebody, you have
- 16:49to know when to walk away. So trusting yourself and
- 16:52trusting the person you're working I'm.
- 16:53Shaking my head because I'm terrible at The Walking away.
- 16:56I want to solve the problem now and move on with my life.
- 17:00Yes, but sometimes my partner needs time to marinate.
- 17:05Yes. And that means Jack and I are
- 17:07the exact same way. He's the one that typically
- 17:10needs to marinate and I'm the one that needs to solve it now.
- 17:12And that's again when I talked about the things that we learned
- 17:16from this business, that was one of the things that we ultimately
- 17:19had to learn and confront. And then now we're in a good
- 17:23place with it. Well, I'm glad to hear that.
- 17:27What's coming up next for Deltina?
- 17:29Is there anything else on the future?
- 17:31Yes. So this we're at a kind of a
- 17:34critical part of our transition because now that the the twins
- 17:38that we had, they're now 5, they'll be 6 next year.
- 17:42So we're starting to pivot in our parenting life School, they
- 17:47are all in school this year, exciting thanks to California's
- 17:50TK transitional kindergarten program.
- 17:52They're all in school this year. So they will, Yeah.
- 17:56So they'll all be in school again next year.
- 17:59And so we're starting to pivot in our parenting, which is
- 18:02allowing us to spend more time with the business.
- 18:06And so we're hoping to make a lot of updates to the business
- 18:10that they were always intended from the beginning.
- 18:12But because again, small families, small businesses, time
- 18:16constraints, side hustles, side gigs, all the things we, we
- 18:23haven't made some of the changes that we had intended to.
- 18:25So there we like one of the things I've been wanting to do
- 18:28is make our own syrups. That was always intended from
- 18:31the beginning. So I would, that's one of my
- 18:33goals for probably end of next year is to develop recipes for
- 18:38all of our syrups. We're actually, we just signed a
- 18:42new contract to update all of our reporting systems.
- 18:48So we're going to be using a more comprehensive program now
- 18:51that fits the specific needs of the Cafe versus using kind of a
- 18:56generic one that fits multiple people's needs.
- 19:02We are constantly developing our roasters choice.
- 19:07So this is something that we had, again, intended from the
- 19:09beginning and finally just now this year starting to dabble.
- 19:13So there's going to be a lot of design work happening and a lot
- 19:15of things to launch a full on roasters choice.
- 19:18And so I'm hoping by next year, we'll have four quarters of
- 19:22roasters choice, which is a huge deal for us.
- 19:26And so, yeah, there's all sorts of little things in the works.
- 19:30I am. Is there anything specific that
- 19:32you're curious? About, I mean, I always just
- 19:35think it's interesting, you know, there's a theory that like
- 19:38you have to keep growing and growing and growing, but
- 19:41sometimes growing doesn't mean necessarily a new building or a
- 19:44new space or a new business. It just means doing what you're
- 19:47doing, which is adjusting, yes, and improving and trying to be
- 19:50better yes, more efficient. Yes, yes and yeah, evolving.
- 19:55I think we're evolving the business right now.
- 19:57That's the best way to to describe the changes that are on
- 20:00the horizon. This store was one of our big
- 20:04growth like in terms of expanding the footprint of the
- 20:07business. And so now we're continuing to
- 20:11try and push forward and work through because what we learned
- 20:14opening this business is that our customer base was completely
- 20:17different, which means we needed to adapt all of the products
- 20:21that we had in the one location for this particular location.
- 20:25And so those are all things we've learned over the last
- 20:27couple of years. And so that also then needs to
- 20:29continue. Sure.
- 20:32Probably the most important question when you go to a coffee
- 20:36shop, what are you going to order?
- 20:40I so I usually stick to an oat milk cappuccino.
- 20:42I I love a good cappuccino. I dairy sensitive so oat milk is
- 20:47my default. I'm dairy sensitive too, but I
- 20:51grew up in Wisconsin so I just want to power through.
- 20:54Yes. And I mean, I grew up in the
- 20:56Central Valley and that was that, yes.
- 20:58So there are times where I do have to power through but.
- 21:01I have gotten in trouble because I have said that I think West
- 21:05Coast cheese is as good or better than Wisconsin's, but I
- 21:08can't say that when I'm home. And I hope that no one is
- 21:11watching this, but I have. I've really grown to love some
- 21:15of our local cheeses. Out there I've Jack and I have
- 21:20lived all over the country and I each area has a little bit of
- 21:26something that somehow they do better than like you said the
- 21:30Wisconsin fruits cheese, but. We have cheese curds which are
- 21:33better. Correct.
- 21:35No. Question.
- 21:36Squeaky cheek skirts in particular.
- 21:38Hot right off the line. Unbelievable.
- 21:40We used to live in Chicago and we would shoot up to Wisconsin a
- 21:43lot. Did I miss anything?
- 21:47Anything else you want to say to anyone?
- 21:50Oh gosh, no, I can't. Well, I can't think of anything
- 21:55off the top of my head. I guess if, if my kids hear this
- 21:57one day, if my husband hears this one day.
- 21:59I love you guys. Thank you.
- 22:03We would not be here without you guys and this is all for you
- 22:07guys. And so we can't wait to really
- 22:10share this with you guys when you get older.
- 22:12I thought you might say you were going to expand one shop for
- 22:15each kid to take over when they graduate.
- 22:18Who knows, it could be in the. Works.
- 22:23That's coffee, people. For today, head to
- 22:25roastwestcoast.com. You'll find coffee, context,
- 22:29more stuff, links to Del Tina, and some information about this
- 22:32area in this shop. Until next time, thank you for
- 22:36drinking good coffee and please tip your baristas.
- 22:40Cheers. The.
- 23:29That's it. Awesome.
- 23:31You have a wonderful laugh. Oh, thank you.
- 23:34You're welcome. It's it's like so uplifting.
- 23:37Thank you. I appreciate that.
- 23:38Yeah, no worries. Testing.
- 24:41Testing 1-2. Testing 1-2.
- 25:23I noticed, sorry I because I stare at people a lot, I start
- 25:27to notice things. When you're thinking, your eyes
- 25:30flutter. Did you know?
- 25:32Do they really? Yeah, I didn't know that.
- 25:34Like it's very, very subtle, but they but really quickly and it's
- 25:38just kind of a I've. Never known that before.
- 25:40Like when you were processing it would, I'd be like, oh, she's
- 25:43coming up with something right now.
- 25:44Oh. That's super interesting.