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Author/Media Host/Songwriter Kate Thurman returns to Conversations LIVE · Cyrus Webb's tracks

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Conversations Live. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Cyrus Webb. Glad you all could join us once again.
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  Speaker 1: For a radio audience tuning in at WYED 94.1 FM
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  Speaker 1: and WYEDonline.com, we're glad that you all can be with us.
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  Speaker 2: Also, join us online.
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  Speaker 1: Worldwide via our podcast at iHeartRadio and Amazon Music, as
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  Speaker 1: well as through Conversations Radio Network. We're glad you all
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  Speaker 1: could be with us as well. Kate Thurman is back
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  Speaker 1: with us today. You guys know her as an author,
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  Speaker 1: a songwriter, a speaker, and media personality. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about all of that today. She has a
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  Speaker 1: very busy rest of this year coming up. She has
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  Speaker 1: an anthology that she's putting together. She has some new
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  Speaker 1: resources she's going to be putting out for people who
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  Speaker 1: are looking to be able to create their own music.
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  Speaker 1: But also she's going to be helping you all to
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  Speaker 1: understand how she's using her platform, both with the Kate
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  Speaker 1: Thurman Show and Graceful Gatherings with.
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  Speaker 2: The Thurmans with her husband, Chris. to be able to.
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  Speaker 1: Amplify the voices of others. If you're not staying connected
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  Speaker 1: with Kate, we'll let you all know how to be
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  Speaker 1: able to do that.
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  Speaker 2: But, Kate, welcome back to the broadcast.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, Cyrus. You know, it's always
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  Speaker 3: a pleasure.
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  Speaker 4: I'm super excited to be here with you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, look, the pleasure is definitely all mine, Kate. Always
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  Speaker 1: great to be able to have you on as well. So, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: as I mentioned, a lot is happening.
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  Speaker 2: In your neck of the woods right now, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: As I mentioned, you have the show, you have the
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  Speaker 1: Kate Thurman Show, which we also air on Conversations Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: You have Graceful Gatherings with the Thurmans that.
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  Speaker 2: You co-host with your husband, Chris. You also, of course,
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  Speaker 2: have the.
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  Speaker 1: Book, Be Beyond the Tears, and an anthology that you're
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  Speaker 1: working on as well. And then, of course, as I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: helping other people when it comes to songwriting and producing music.
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  Speaker 1: What has that been like for you, Kate, to be
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  Speaker 1: able to have all these different things that you love
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  Speaker 1: doing and to be able to share them with all
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  Speaker 1: of us?
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  Speaker 5: It's been good.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, realizing that I was as gifted as
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  Speaker 4: I was and not taking it for granted. I knew
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  Speaker 4: those things that I could do, but realizing that I
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  Speaker 4: could use those things to help people, which is one
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  Speaker 4: of the main things I really love to do is
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  Speaker 4: help people. And, you know, that brings me joy. So
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  Speaker 4: to answer your question, it brings me a lot of
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  Speaker 4: joy to see the things that God has blessed me
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  Speaker 4: with and to be able to help others with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, Kate, because I think for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I have to be honest
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  Speaker 1: and say for myself, I was included in that number
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  Speaker 1: at one time. A lot of times we know we
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  Speaker 1: want to do something, but it's the idea, okay, can
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  Speaker 1: I do it? And what will people think? How did
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  Speaker 1: you get to a place where you realized God had
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  Speaker 1: given you these gifts and it was really up to
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  Speaker 1: you to be able to use them?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I used to be one of those, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, my story about being bullied and feeling like
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  Speaker 4: no one wanted.
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  Speaker 3: To hear what I had to say.
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  Speaker 4: I had to get to a place mentally because at
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  Speaker 4: first I was I always wondered and thought about what
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  Speaker 4: other people would think of me. I always felt like
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  Speaker 4: I'm being judged if I do this, if I don't
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  Speaker 4: say something right or if I don't do something right
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  Speaker 4: that I'm going to be torn down. Now I had
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  Speaker 4: to realize.
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  Speaker 3: That getting to this place where I am now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just doing it because God gave it to me,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not supposed to hold on to what he
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  Speaker 4: gave me. I'm supposed to help others with this. I
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  Speaker 4: can't be selfish because now I realize if I'm just
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  Speaker 4: holding on to this, I'm just being selfish.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. And you have so many different gifts, and honestly, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: gifts I didn't even know about when I first met you, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because when you and I initially connected, if you remember,
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  Speaker 1: it was because you were part of an anthology and
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  Speaker 1: i'm bringing that up because now here you are in
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  Speaker 1: 2026 spearheading your own anthology what has that experience been
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  Speaker 1: like for you to share a bit of your own
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  Speaker 1: story in an anthology in the beginning and now to
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  Speaker 1: not only have your book out beauty beyond the tears
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  Speaker 1: but also helping other people to share their stories through
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  Speaker 1: your own anthology oh.
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  Speaker 4: My that is that is um i think that's the
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  Speaker 4: most exciting part well it's one of the most exciting.
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  Speaker 3: Parts of this year um.
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  Speaker 4: Releasing Beauty Beyond the Tears, Find the Strength After Loss
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  Speaker 4: in 2025, that was a very trying time for me,
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  Speaker 4: but it was something that I had to do.
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  Speaker 5: It was, I had to release that book and write
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  Speaker 5: that book in the.
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  Speaker 4: Midst of my storm, after the miscarriages and after so
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  Speaker 4: many losses. So also in that, when God gave me
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  Speaker 4: the vision, I knew it wasn't time.
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  Speaker 3: To do that anthology then, but I knew that.
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  Speaker 5: It was coming.
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  Speaker 4: And doing Beauty Beyond the Tears, now is time. Because
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  Speaker 4: Beauty Beyond the Tears, from Tears to Triumph, the Women
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  Speaker 4: Healing Anthology, this is to continue to help people, to
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  Speaker 4: continue on the mission, to continue on the journey of
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  Speaker 4: helping others. And it's so many different beautiful women that
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  Speaker 4: have different stories that they are going to put in
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  Speaker 4: the anthology to help women. You know, everything, again, it
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  Speaker 4: goes back to everything, doing everything to help others, to
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  Speaker 4: help people, you know, get past the pain and the
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  Speaker 4: hurt or whatever adversities in life that you may have.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just excited to be able to go from
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  Speaker 4: the first anthology. I was in someone else's anthology to
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  Speaker 4: spearhead my own anthology to, to help people heal and
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  Speaker 4: walk in what God called them to do.
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  Speaker 5: It's just, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And it's been great to be able to watch. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I really look at it. Kate is a
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  Speaker 1: full circle moment because again, that's how you and I
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  Speaker 1: initially met each other was because of that anthology.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then, I mean, and then, of course, I was
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  Speaker 1: able to find out about Graceful Gatherings with Mr. Thurman,
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  Speaker 1: the show that you have with your husband, Chris Thurman,
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  Speaker 1: who also became an author this year. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 1: you have your own solo show, The Kate Thurman Show.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to us about that experience because, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing for you to be able to have your husband,
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  Speaker 1: your significant other there with you co-hosting a show. What
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  Speaker 1: has it been like for you now to be solo
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  Speaker 1: hosting your own program?
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited about that.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: When Chris and I started with Grace for Gathering, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know the story. I think we told you the
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  Speaker 4: story a couple of times how I told him, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I was going to do another show. And I said, well, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they said that we can do a show, too,
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  Speaker 4: to have as many shows.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, OK.
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  Speaker 4: So I was like, yeah, you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: do Grace for Gathering with the Thurmans, you and I.
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  Speaker 3: He said, wait, huh?
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  Speaker 4: And so it was kind of like it was he said, wait, wait,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: So I believe that's what the Lord want us to do.
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  Speaker 5: Go play about it.
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  Speaker 4: And so, but then, you know, when we came up
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  Speaker 4: with my amazing publicist, you know, said, Kate, you're an
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  Speaker 4: amazing person. You should think about, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, doing your own show.
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  Speaker 3: And Chris wasn't going to let me drag him into that.
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  Speaker 5: He said, uh-uh, he said, you.
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  Speaker 6: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 4: So when you, when the idea of the Kate Thurman
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  Speaker 4: show came about at first, I was like, can I
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  Speaker 4: do this on my own? Cause you know, it was
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  Speaker 4: two shows, the Graceful Gathers and the other show that
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  Speaker 4: I was a co-host with someone. This is the first
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  Speaker 4: time I'm doing one by myself. I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: have anyone to, you know, fall back on if I
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  Speaker 4: stumble or something.
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  Speaker 3: But it worked out great. I love it.
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  Speaker 5: I love doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Um, because it's your show and you just, it's just
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  Speaker 4: a relaxing conversation that we have on a Kate Thurman show.
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  Speaker 4: And that's how we do it on the Kate Thurman
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  Speaker 4: Show because I want to be comfortable just like I
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  Speaker 4: want the guests to be comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right.
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  Speaker 2: And, Kate, let me say this about you.
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  Speaker 1: And for people who know you, I think they would
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  Speaker 1: agree with me, and people who are on the radio
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  Speaker 1: side know that I don't just say things no matter
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  Speaker 1: who it is.
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  Speaker 2: I have such respect for you.
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  Speaker 1: I have, you know, really when I look at you
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  Speaker 1: and think of all that you're able to do, I
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  Speaker 1: mean– I had no doubt that you could do it.
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  Speaker 1: But again, like you said, it's really about us believing
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  Speaker 1: in ourselves and realizing. And then, too, thinking about you've
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  Speaker 1: interviewed MC Light. You've interviewed Melba Moore. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: is not like you were new to this by the
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  Speaker 1: time you got to the Kate Thurman show.
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  Speaker 6: So, I mean, so I knew you could do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just about you believing in yourself. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the other side of that, Kate, because you
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  Speaker 1: also are showing others. What can happen when they believe
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  Speaker 1: in themselves and bet on themselves? How does that feel
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  Speaker 1: to know that by your example, you're being able to
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  Speaker 1: inspire other people?
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  Speaker 4: That was, for me, I teach myself. I think I
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  Speaker 4: tell you this all the time when we talk, just
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  Speaker 4: knowing that I'm someone. Because you think about, you go
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  Speaker 4: from feeling like nobody wants to hear what you have
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  Speaker 4: to say and, you know, now you're the person. So
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  Speaker 4: I would go to these conferences or go places and shrink.
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  Speaker 4: And now when I'm the one either on the panel
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  Speaker 4: or I'm spearheading the conference and helping people along the way,
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  Speaker 4: it makes me feel good because I feel like I
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  Speaker 4: am truly, truly walking in my purpose. There is nothing,
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  Speaker 4: if someone came up to me tomorrow and said, or
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  Speaker 4: today and said, Well.
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  Speaker 5: You're not doing nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you a lie.
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  Speaker 5: I know I'm doing a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and Kate, five years ago, if you said that,
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  Speaker 4: I would have shrank again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm not doing that anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as you shouldn't, because you are doing a whole lot,
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  Speaker 1: and you're doing more than two or three people sometimes
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  Speaker 1: combined together.
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  Speaker 2: Which is another story.
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  Speaker 1: We won't get into that today. But I do want
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  Speaker 1: to say, Kate, the other thing, though, that you did
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  Speaker 1: that was so surprising, and in fact, depending on when
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  Speaker 1: our audience is listening to this conversation, they're hearing one
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  Speaker 1: of those songs right now on social media, you've been
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  Speaker 1: able to introduce Kate Thurman, the songwriter. Now, again, this
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  Speaker 1: was brand new to me, but you kind of find
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  Speaker 1: out in talking with you, music has always been a
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  Speaker 1: part of your life.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to us about.
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  Speaker 1: That experience of introducing yourself as Kay Thurman, the songwriter.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it goes back to that same story.
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  Speaker 4: Shrunk myself. I was a little girl and all the
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  Speaker 4: Whitney Houston songs, I was singing them. And then I
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  Speaker 4: was singing in a choir.
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  Speaker 3: I had such.
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  Speaker 4: Confidence until, you know, kids my age who.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't do what I could do.
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  Speaker 4: Talked about me and picked at me and made me shrink.
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  Speaker 4: So I hear my voice and I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 4: you this for the first time. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: I told you on it before, but I think I
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  Speaker 4: lost my voice at a long time ago, meaning singing wise.
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  Speaker 4: At one point I felt like I even said, I
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  Speaker 4: thank God took my voice away from me and he
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  Speaker 4: did it right. It was me. I, You know what
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  Speaker 4: they say, if you don't use it, you'll lose it?
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 4: Because I stopped singing for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I stopped.
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  Speaker 4: This is the very first time I'm saying this publicly.
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  Speaker 4: I stopped singing because I felt like, again, no one
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  Speaker 4: wanted to hear me. No one cared about what I
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  Speaker 4: had to say via.
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  Speaker 5: Song, books, whatever. So when I started.
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  Speaker 4: Doing everything else that I'm doing, the book and telling
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  Speaker 4: my story, this is a part of me. This is
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  Speaker 4: a part of my journey. Writing the songs and having
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  Speaker 4: something to say lyrically is a part of me. So
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to make sure that I shared that because
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  Speaker 4: someone told me when I wrote a book, The Beauty
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  Speaker 4: Beyond the Tears.
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  Speaker 3: They said, I don't really like to read that much.
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  Speaker 4: We were just having a casual conversation. And what I
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  Speaker 4: heard in there, she was like, but do you have
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  Speaker 4: your book on Audible? And I was like, well, no,
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  Speaker 4: we'll probably put it on there. And she was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, sometimes someone else.
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  Speaker 3: Said the same thing. I like to listen to music.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, you can tell stories in a song.
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  Speaker 3: And so, you know, that's what happened.
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  Speaker 4: I called my publicist and talked to my husband.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, hey, I want to do this. Even
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  Speaker 3: though you guys were like, there's something else you want
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  Speaker 3: to do, Kay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But I love it. I love writing.
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  Speaker 4: Music and helping people tell their story through songs.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And you've been able to do that, Kate, and starting off,
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  Speaker 1: of course, with your own.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you know, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Now, that's not my gift. You know, I tell people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm one of these people who I say
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  Speaker 1: to people the things I know, I know the things
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, and I stay in the lanes
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  Speaker 1: that God has given me. In other lanes, I gracefully
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  Speaker 1: leave for people. That's their thing. Singing has never been
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  Speaker 1: my gift.
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  Speaker 2: Dancing has never been my gift.
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  Speaker 1: Songwriting, even though I write poetry, has never been something
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  Speaker 1: I think about. But what has that been like for
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  Speaker 1: you to have come up with the words, being able
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  Speaker 1: to come up with these songs, and then to be
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  Speaker 1: able to hear them, not only just on social media
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  Speaker 1: where people can use them like I did today, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: use them in a reel, but also purchase them on
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  Speaker 1: sites like Amazon Music?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that, that, that feels good. I'm like, oh man,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and, and the being able to do it
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  Speaker 4: via AI is such, it's so much easier versus you
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  Speaker 4: having to go in the studio and record. So that's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Being able to know that people can buy my music.
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  Speaker 4: I can sit here and it takes me about a
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  Speaker 4: good week or so to put everything together after, after
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  Speaker 4: the song is done. And, you know, of course you
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  Speaker 4: got to do everything on the back end, but to
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  Speaker 4: know that the song is on Amazon is on all
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  Speaker 4: platforms and, and, And a couple of weeks after you
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  Speaker 4: upload it, it's just amazing that, you know, and the
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  Speaker 4: song is being used to help people. It's happening all
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  Speaker 4: over the world.
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  Speaker 5: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't care about no other platforms.
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  Speaker 6: But, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, Amazon.
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  Speaker 6: I'm messing with you. I want to say for those
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  Speaker 6: who are just tuning in, welcome. You're listening to Conversations Live.
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  Speaker 6: And I pick with Kate about this all the time,
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  Speaker 6: so don't y'all be writing me. telling me I was
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  Speaker 6: messing with my guest. But Kate Thurman is with us today.
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  Speaker 6: She's an author, media.
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  Speaker 1: Personality, speaker, songwriter, and we're talking with her about a
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  Speaker 1: very busy season she's in right now. But, Kate, the
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  Speaker 1: other thing that you mentioned, again, this goes to people
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  Speaker 1: knowing their lane, knowing what they do know, what they
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  Speaker 1: don't know. The other thing that you came up with
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  Speaker 1: that I was so excited about is you being able
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  Speaker 1: to help to educate others who want.
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  Speaker 2: To do what you do. Talk to us about that part, what.
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  Speaker 1: That's been like for you to share your knowledge with
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  Speaker 1: others and now to be able to get ready to
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  Speaker 1: release that in a book.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that part of it, the educational part of it
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  Speaker 4: is the one that touches me the most because so many.
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  Speaker 5: People go and they may get A.I.
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  Speaker 3: Or even if they're going to studio, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: But when they go and do the music, they think, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I've got to do this song. put this in here,
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  Speaker 4: write the song or however they do it and release it.
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  Speaker 4: And just because you put it on a distribution place
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  Speaker 4: and you think that that's all you have to do.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 5: What about protecting your music?
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: What about, you know, the music union that you need?
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  Speaker 4: So being able to educate people and let them know
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  Speaker 4: what they need to know to protect themselves and to
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  Speaker 4: collect royalties from now and beyond, you know, and set
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: up for your family and just make sure that everybody's
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: taken care of, and you're protected. Don't write some and
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  Speaker 4: just put it out there. That part is the most
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  Speaker 4: touching part for me because people need to know that
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: they need to protect themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: And I love the fact that you're making that available.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing to know it yourself. Some
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: people do gatekeep that information, but for you to be
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: able to provide it, and you're also, from what I understand,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: you're stepping into another territory, Kate, of even being able
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to teach classes about this.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I am going to offer a class where, you know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: I help people, not only the ones who want to
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: just some people just want to do a song and
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: upload it, but you still have to do the just
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: the bare minimum to help people teach them how to
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: set up their accounts, whereas if it's ASCAP or BMI
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: or whatever platform you use to protect your music.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to.
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  Speaker 4: Not only is it going to be in the book
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: more than more than music, but it's also going to
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: be me teaching students. A couple of live classes to
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: help people set up their accounts and understand the next step,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: understand what it means to protect yourself in music.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's the other thing. One of the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: things that I'm very big on is being able to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: package your knowledge and helping people to do that. And
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what I love to hear you doing, Kate,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: packaging that knowledge and making it available for other people
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: to because it does have value, which means it is
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: worthy of people to be able to purchase. And for
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you to be able to make that available, I think,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: is a real thing. But I think it all goes
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: back to you making the decision, though, Kate, and this
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: goes for our audience, to actually do it. There's so
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: many people out there. It gets irritating to me at times,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I think, because I'm getting older, Kate. that people just
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: talk about what they're going to do. Oh, I've always
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: wanted to do it, and I just want to.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Say, well, why haven't you done it?
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: Right, right, just do it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what has.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: That been like for you to show people the importance
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: of not just talking about what you want to do,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: but actually doing the work and getting it done?
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: For me, it means a lot because I know that
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I've left– for me, it's like leaving.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: History, right?
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I want someone to say, well, you know, Kate Thurman
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: taught this class and Kate Thurman helped me. If it
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: wasn't for Kate Thurman, I wouldn't have known that I
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: need to do this and do that when it comes
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: to this. Or even with the anthology, interviewing some of
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: the women that's coming in and just having a conversation
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: and them telling me their stories.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, well, your story can help this person.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Boom, boom, boom. And just knowing.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: That I'm able to just do it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Those things, I didn't even know I.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: could just do it just like that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: And at the end of the conversations, if I'm teaching
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: a class or having a consultation, I hear, oh, wow,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: you just.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Can do this. You are, some people, you're my mentor.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I never thought of myself.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: As a mentor.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: But just being able to do it, you won't know
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: those things that people think of you if you don't
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: You just have to do it.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Use what God gave you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Being able to hear those things from people, it brings
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: me nothing but sheer joy because I never thought of
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: myself as a person that was a mentor or a
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: person that can help this person get from this to that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: But it goes back to what you said, just standing
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: in your wheelhouse and.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Knowing, like, I know my strengths. You know what my
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: weaknesses are.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I told you, like, yeah, I want somebody else to
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: do that because I can't do that. But I could
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: do this because this is what God gave me.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And I think that's it, being able to recognize that.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So let's recap here, Kate. As we mentioned, of course,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Kate continues to be able to share the message from
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: her own book, Beauty Beyond the Tears.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: But she also, of.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Course, is in a new season of the Kate Thurman Show.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: She has a show, as we mentioned earlier, with her husband,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Graceful Gatherings with the Thurmans. And outside of that, she's
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: been real involved in writing songs, not only for herself
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: but also for others. She has work coming out to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: be able to talk about that too, which is so big.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And then she has the anthology that we mentioned earlier
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that's going to be coming out too. So a lot
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: of great things for people to be able to stay
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: connected with Kate Kate, I want to say congratulations to you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I'm real excited about all the great things that are
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: happening for you and those around you.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: How can our audience stay connected with you?
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, thank you, Cyrus. Meet the Thurman's and Linktree.com.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: It's all the music, the books, more than the music
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: is uploaded there, actually.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: You can purchase the e-book there. All the things that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Kate Thurman's Facebook, Kate Thurman Linktree, Kate Thurman LinkedIn, Kate
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Thurman Instagram, and Thurman's entertainment channel on YouTube.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: We just updated that.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: There you go. A lot of great things. Kate, again,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: excited for you.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: We're really excited about keeping our audience updated and looking
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: forward to our.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Next chat together.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Cyrus. Thank you for having me.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Glad to do it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And we thank your audience for tuning in to another
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: great segment of Conversations Live. Until next time, I'm your host,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Cyrus Webster, saying, as always, enjoy your day, enjoy your life,
• 20:19
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• 20:21
  Speaker 1: at Conversations Live, and let's go make today amazing.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Take care.