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Harden & Cavs QUIT vs, Knicks, The OKC "Blue Devils" & Jackson Dart’s Trump Problem | 05.26 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 2: I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. In a minute,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about why the Thunder is really
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  Speaker 2: just some devils. You know what I'm saying? We're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about Jackson Dart. There's a lot of blue
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  Speaker 2: in the show that's coming up here. Even the Congressional
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  Speaker 2: Black Caucus, they're a different kind of blue than Jackson Dart.
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  Speaker 2: Very opposite. But anyway, how about those New York Knicks?
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. And we talked about this
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  Speaker 2: a couple of days ago on the show where I've
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  Speaker 2: raised the question. How long would it take before people
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  Speaker 2: jumped off the Knicks?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, and when I say people, I really
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm a Knicks fan. I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 2: I know what the hell I mean. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is what I'm saying, all right? Hear me out,
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  Speaker 2: hear me out. And I think you'll get where I
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  Speaker 2: was coming from, which is they had just been so
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  Speaker 2: dominant in just running through people that if they lost
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  Speaker 2: a game by, call it seven points, would people be like, oh, okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: now that was fun. That was over. The example I've
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  Speaker 2: made all the time, I watched the San Antonio Spurs
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  Speaker 2: in 2012 win 20 games in a row and then
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  Speaker 2: they lost four in a row and it was over, right?
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  Speaker 2: So my question simply was, at what point, when would
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  Speaker 2: it be that people would just be like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that was cool. Well, clearly that shit's not going to
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  Speaker 2: happen because they in the finals now. The NBA finals,
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  Speaker 2: the ones at the end of the year. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: in that. And they didn't just like tiptoe into it.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't lost a game in a month. And the
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  Speaker 2: only close game they had was kind of close, except
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  Speaker 2: they walked Cleveland down so bad that. Okay, try to think.
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  Speaker 2: When J.R. Smith went the wrong way with the ball,
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  Speaker 2: Because remember, the Cavs were about to be up and
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  Speaker 2: had a great chance to be up 1-0 on the Warriors.
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  Speaker 2: Then J.R. got the rebound and went the wrong way
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  Speaker 2: for what remains maybe the funniest thing I've ever seen
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  Speaker 2: in my life. I feel so bad for LeBron, but
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  Speaker 2: not bad enough not to be laughing at him. Ryan,
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  Speaker 2: you remember that? When he was going like that? When
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  Speaker 2: he had the hands out?
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  Speaker 3: He was so mad.
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  Speaker 2: It broke his brain he just 100 could not believe
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  Speaker 2: that shit happened right neither could we but i've never
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  Speaker 2: seen a situation take a guy on the floor like
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  Speaker 2: that right and just completely because braun be trying as
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  Speaker 2: hard as to make the other kids feel better about
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  Speaker 2: themselves right like he's always trying to elevate them other
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  Speaker 2: dudes he lost oh my god that was so fun
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  Speaker 2: he's so mad He was so mad, justifiably mad. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they won. Did they win another game
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  Speaker 2: in that series?
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  Speaker 4: No. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, LeBron reportedly, like, sprained his hand afterwards
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  Speaker 3: because he was punching the wall or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: He showed up to game four and they were sprained.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. Like, they packed it up after that. And
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  Speaker 2: it just, I mean, but they were up against something different.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland packed this shit up after they lost that first game.
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  Speaker 2: right after they lost it they packed it up and
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  Speaker 2: look they got blown out a couple of times Philly
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  Speaker 2: got blown out like that but I didn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: Philly packed it up so I don't even know if
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  Speaker 2: it's fair to say that they had quit in games
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  Speaker 2: two and three I don't I don't know I think
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  Speaker 2: they had just lost they quit in game like that
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  Speaker 2: that halftime show on inside the NBA where they were
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  Speaker 2: just like why would we talk about this game.
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  Speaker 3: They brought up The Webster's definition of quitting.
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  Speaker 2: Right, except it wasn't Webster. It was just some shit
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  Speaker 2: they wrote down. Like, I looked at that. There was
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  Speaker 2: nothing to talk about. They went from Charles calling them
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  Speaker 2: quitters to Kenny Smith and Shaq in top hats singing
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  Speaker 2: New York, New York and doing kicks like the Rockettes.
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  Speaker 2: It was so bad. It was immediate. Like, oh, no, remember,
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  Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell played pretty good. Hit some shots early, right?
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  Speaker 2: They look like they did that thing that teams do
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  Speaker 2: when they're down 3-0, right? They got a little something going.
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  Speaker 2: And then at some point, they all ask themselves, do
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  Speaker 2: I really want to get on a plane again? Did
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  Speaker 2: I even bother to bring a suitcase?
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  Speaker 3: Nope. A suitcase to Cancun, but not a suitcase back
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  Speaker 3: to New York.
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  Speaker 2: This was a one, two, three Cancun classic. The Cancun
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  Speaker 2: all three invitational. They just, they got destroyed. And then
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  Speaker 2: for two games in a row, Cleveland came out there
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  Speaker 2: and press conferences and some important figure on the team
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  Speaker 2: decided to tell the world, we are a bunch of losers.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Kenny Atkinson came out there and look, I listened to
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  Speaker 2: the whole Kenny Atkinson quote. And the point that he
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  Speaker 2: was trying to make is that there was an advanced
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  Speaker 2: metric called expected score. And that in three of the
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  Speaker 2: games up until that point, the Cavs were ahead in
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  Speaker 2: expected score. And he explained that in the press conference.
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  Speaker 2: The only line that came out of that was, analytically,
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  Speaker 2: we've won two out of three. fucking loser nobody wants
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  Speaker 2: to hear that right now like this is not that's
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  Speaker 2: loser talk that's.
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  Speaker 3: On the spot Too stupid to coach my tackle basketball team.
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  Speaker 2: You are not allowed to coach game four after this.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do this. You sure can't. You can't do
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  Speaker 2: that around those angry people. No, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you've ever met anybody from Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: What they don't have as much of a sense of humor.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's just sports teams.
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  Speaker 2: No, not what do they have a sense of humor about?
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  Speaker 2: It was probably 45 degrees. No, in Cleveland, no. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God, you can't say that. And then James Harden,
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  Speaker 2: who has no leeway, I will say again, no leeway
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  Speaker 2: whatsoever when it comes to looking like a loser, he
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  Speaker 2: got out there and said, I still think we're the
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  Speaker 2: better team. No, you're not. We just lost three games
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  Speaker 2: in a row by, no exaggeration, 1,500 points. Go add
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  Speaker 2: it up.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: You and me are going to look at the newspaper
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  Speaker 2: and say, hey, this doesn't add up to 1,500 points.
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  Speaker 2: They're wrong. I watched the shit. It was 1,500 points.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody who saw it knows outright they lost by 500
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  Speaker 2: points three times in a row. We all synced it.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody did. And you, you got out there and said,
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  Speaker 2: I still think we're the better team. Here's why you
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  Speaker 2: can't say that if you James Harden, you can't say,
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  Speaker 2: I still think we're the better team because that then
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  Speaker 2: leads to the question. Well, if you are the better team,
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  Speaker 2: then why did you lose four games in a row?
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  Speaker 2: And the only answer for being the better team, but
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  Speaker 2: losing four games in a row is somebody. And here's
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  Speaker 2: a loser. Like such an overpowering loser that being the
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  Speaker 2: better team doesn't matter because that loser is there. And
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  Speaker 2: when people start asking themselves, well, damn, who's the loser?
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  Speaker 2: Where do you think they're going to look, James?
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  Speaker 1: Huh?
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  Speaker 2: Where do you think they're going to go? That's right, Jimbo.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to look right at you. Some combination between
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  Speaker 2: a choker and a bad luck charm. That's what they,
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  Speaker 2: that's what they saying. That's what, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
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  Speaker 2: that's all I'm trying to tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Who could have seen this coming?
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  Speaker 2: I just can't imagine sitting around during the season and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, yo, we got to do something. We try
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  Speaker 2: to win a championship. I think we can get Jimbo.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, apparently agreed to allow Jimbo to
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  Speaker 2: come back on extension. Because otherwise, Jimbo would be acting
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  Speaker 2: much different.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: If that was the case. We know how Jimbo acts
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  Speaker 2: when he has not been taken care of in the
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  Speaker 2: way that he would prefer. We know this. I would
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  Speaker 2: just also like for them to note that Clippers look
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  Speaker 2: having a better run. They had a chance to make
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  Speaker 2: a run and do some things. And they were like, nah,
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  Speaker 2: we're not bringing Jimbo back.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see. We'll see you later.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, hey, let's get out ahead of this right
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  Speaker 2: now because we know we ain't going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get out. That's what they did. All right. They,
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  Speaker 2: they decided, and y'all were like, huh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The Clippers mired in scandal. We're like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all can have them.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: Are you serious? Are you serious?
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  Speaker 3: Like, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Like that was, that was, they look like losers. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. If somebody called me a loser, I would
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  Speaker 2: be ready to fight. That's the only thing stopping me
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  Speaker 2: from like, I feel like I'm not being honest with
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  Speaker 2: people right now. And I don't like how that feels.
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  Speaker 2: But the game got rules. Okay? But to be fair
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  Speaker 2: to the Cavs, to be fair to them, I want
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  Speaker 2: to know if the Knicks got some tape for that meeting.
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  Speaker 2: Remember they had a meeting after game three? And then
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  Speaker 2: they turned into something unthinkable. anything that I have ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: Like they are, I feel like really good to great
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  Speaker 2: NBA teams now feel more like really good to great
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  Speaker 2: college teams now. in the sense that it's not simply
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  Speaker 2: about who you got on the top line. Like it's
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  Speaker 2: about a certain level of depth, a certain level of cohesion.
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  Speaker 2: Like you think about like great college basketball teams that
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  Speaker 2: didn't create a bunch of great NBA players.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like that's what it feels
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  Speaker 2: like it takes now.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like the days of only having six guys who can
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  Speaker 3: play in finals games are over. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Those aren't the teams that are great. And so if
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  Speaker 2: you look at it that way, where what I used
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  Speaker 2: to say is you just got a handful of low
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  Speaker 2: spades on your team. The trick is, apparently now, is
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  Speaker 2: just having a bunch of spades. Like, a handful of
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  Speaker 2: spades that you can dictate the game. The Knicks are like...
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  Speaker 2: They got a bunch of, like, high-ish spades, right? There's
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  Speaker 2: no big joker on the team. Carl Anthony Towns is
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  Speaker 2: like a deuce when the deuce is wild. It feels
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  Speaker 2: like a joker, and then a real joker shows up.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Shit, I counted that book. However, he's doing pretty good, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right? And it's... They... To me, and what I find
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  Speaker 2: interesting about it is, it is the way in which
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  Speaker 2: they are beating these teams. And that is, they look
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  Speaker 2: locked in in a way that teams typically don't look
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  Speaker 2: locked in that have never won anything. So the 0-1 Lakers,
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: we talked to J.A. Adande. We talked with him about
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  Speaker 2: that last week. That was a team that had won
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  Speaker 2: a championship and then kind of played with his food
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  Speaker 2: a bit during the regular season and then locked in
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  Speaker 2: and destroyed the whole league. The Knicks of all teams
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  Speaker 2: are playing with that kind of focus, right? Like when
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  Speaker 2: you're watching them, it's just like, yo, this isn't, it
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  Speaker 2: isn't fluky. This isn't luck. This is just, we're coming
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  Speaker 2: to win today, guys. They showed up in the black
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  Speaker 2: for the funeral and did it. And did it. Landry Shaman,
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  Speaker 2: who is not a good enough player to deserve to
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  Speaker 2: wear number 44. I just want to throw that out there.
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  Speaker 2: There's a list of numbers, okay? Number one, you either
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  Speaker 2: got to be really good or really small. That seem fair? Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like 32 and 33.
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  Speaker 3: Not good enough.
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  Speaker 2: You got to, you got to, 23. Well, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for sure. You have to, you have to, Draymond Green, barely, right?
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  Speaker 2: But you have to earn your way into those. And also,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like 44. I feel like in all sports,
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  Speaker 2: 44 carries a certain weight.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you got to earn your way into 44.
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  Speaker 2: Landry Shammons is like, I bet.
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  Speaker 3: You think Landry Shammons is more of like a prime number,
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  Speaker 3: like a 19?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Landry Shammons is a bit more. Like, 44 is
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  Speaker 2: a number you choose.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Landry Shammons is supposed to be taking what they got.
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  Speaker 2: Landry Shammons should be like wearing the numbers that Celtics
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  Speaker 2: and Yankees be wearing, where they ain't got that many
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  Speaker 2: numbers left.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right.
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  Speaker 2: I went to Yankees game the other night, man. Anybody
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  Speaker 2: might be an offensive lineman in that motherfucker. Wearing number 67.
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  Speaker 3: What? I think every single digit's gone, right?
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  Speaker 2: Every single digit. Not only is every single digit for
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees gone, number eight is accounted for twice. One
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  Speaker 2: is Billy Martin, two is Derek Jeter, three Ruth, four Garrick,
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  Speaker 2: five DiMaggio, six Torrey, seven Mantle, eight is Barrett and
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  Speaker 2: Bill Dickey, and nine is Roger Marris. There are no
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  Speaker 2: single digits left for the Yankees.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the Yankees' best player wears number 99. This
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  Speaker 3: is correct.
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  Speaker 2: This is correct. And the Yankees kind of retire. There
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  Speaker 2: are jerseys the Yankees retire that other teams would not.
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  Speaker 2: Like the Red Sox, they are only retiring like star stars.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the only ones. Bernie Williams, Jorge Posada, I
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  Speaker 2: think Tito Martinez, even though I'm not, if he's not, probably, right?
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  Speaker 2: Andy Pettit.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys get Paul O'Neal. They retire Paul O'Neal's jersey.
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  Speaker 2: They got a lot of feel goods. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If you were along for the ride during a dynasty,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably getting.
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  Speaker 2: Or also, but dogmatically, because they just really liked him.
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  Speaker 2: Ron Guidry, because he was the guy at the time.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole run of people. Anyway, all I'm saying is,
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  Speaker 2: number 44, Reggie Jackson. Landry Shammott gets to wear that,
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  Speaker 2: and that's not... Everybody needs a Street 44 like Syracuse
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  Speaker 2: Street 44.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: You got to earn this, baby. You got to earn it.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway... They've been this is one of the best
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  Speaker 2: months that any team has had in NBA history. This
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  Speaker 2: is definitely the best month of basketball the New York
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  Speaker 2: Knicks have ever played. They're so happy.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They are.
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  Speaker 2: They are. They are so thrilled. I tell you this, though.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: You ever seen Malcolm X?
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  Speaker 3: It's been a long time, but yes.
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  Speaker 2: You remember that part when Malcolm told all the black
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  Speaker 2: people we did like this and they went like this
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  Speaker 2: and got them all to walk away when they had
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  Speaker 2: that march?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was the level of police presence that was outside
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  Speaker 2: of Radio City Music Hall yesterday because that's where the
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  Speaker 2: watch party was. The cops was ready for them to
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  Speaker 2: burn it down.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do one of the Dark Knight movies.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. Because the problem is this. Where Radio City
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  Speaker 2: Music Hall is, like I feel like if all those
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  Speaker 2: people were somewhere, even if they had been over there
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  Speaker 2: on 33rd Street by the garden, that'd be one thing.
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  Speaker 2: Radio City Music Hall is just a little bit too
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  Speaker 2: close to the tourists.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, you know. It's also right next
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  Speaker 3: to the Fox News building, so they don't really like
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  Speaker 3: groups of people standing out there anyway.
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  Speaker 2: You got a great point. You got a great point.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like a mere avenue or two away
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  Speaker 2: from Trump Tower.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Not far.
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  Speaker 3: Not far at all.
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  Speaker 2: Not far.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: They did that, man. The Knicks really did that.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that all of their fans, the celebrity fans,
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  Speaker 3: went and took over Cleveland. Like, you think you were
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: going to see Fat Joe show up in San Antonio?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, well, one way or another.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One way or another, right? This is the thing. I
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  Speaker 2: also have to say this to you, Cleveland. And I
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  Speaker 2: get where they were coming from, okay? And they were
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  Speaker 2: trying their hardest basically to stop courtside from being New
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  Speaker 2: York Knicks fan celebrity row. And I saw my man
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  Speaker 2: Brian Glasspeaker made the point that it's kind of unfair
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  Speaker 2: that the Knicks can do this because Knicks fans have
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  Speaker 2: more money. And it's not, it's a little, to me,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit more complicated than that, right? It's
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: not simply about having more money. I once went to
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: a concert in Europe because it was cheaper to go
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: in Europe than it was to go in the United
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: States because of everything that goes on with tickets here
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: and everything else. Like add a plane ticket and everything
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: else and it was cheaper to go in Paris than
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: it was to go in the States. That's what this
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: is for Knicks fans. Your tickets look like a steal,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: even including the plane ticket, because it's so expensive to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: go to Madison Square Garden.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Have you seen how much people are paying for finals tickets?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: I saw somebody put a quarter mil down on court
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: side seats. I called my brother, and I was like, hey, man,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: what's the most that you'll be willing to pay to
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: go to an NBA finals game? And he said $ 500,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and there's no reason for us to talk about that
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: shit again.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: You might not be able to get... To 35th Street.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was about to say.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I don't even think they'll let you off the subway.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: You're not getting in a high-rise to watch Madison Square Garden.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Since you can't even take New Jersey Transit to the
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: World Cup for $ 500. Right. I was like, okay, that's
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: not going to happen. And then I called Nick. And
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Nick was like, I'm the wrong person to ask because
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: he'll spend on tickets. And then he started like, we
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: really started talking it through and it was like, oh,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: this will probably cost $ 2, 000 or $ 3, 000 to get a
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: seat worth having right maybe yeah like this this like
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: this could be that sort of thing people are that
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: ecstatic they are that excited they are that everything because
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: they have been the best team in the NBA postseason
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: by far by far it doesn't matter what you say
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: about who they played against and by the way We
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: ain't even really talking that much about what adjustments they've
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: made or anything else. We know they did the thing
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: where they were like, we're going to run the offense
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: through Carl Anthony Towns and everything else. It don't matter
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: what the fuck they did, man. They've just been doing it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: And they're the Knicks. The Knicks. This has happened. But anyway,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the thing I was saying about the tickets. Cleveland, Dan
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Gilbert put it out there that if you sold your
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: courtside seats to a Knicks fan, you will be permanently
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: banned from the arena. I get it. You know what
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I mean? And shout out to Dan Gilbert. What he
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: really could have done was just made them prices sky
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: high and just took all them New York people money, right?
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: So he seemed to stand on principle in some way
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: or another. So I understand why that happened. I get it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at him. Except there were clearly 10
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: courtside seats that they might as well have made available
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: to Knicks fans. It was the ones that the Cavs
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: were sitting in. Why were they even there? They should
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: have just had five dudes on the floor and made
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the Cavs sit on the ground. And then you make
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that money off Fat Joe and them. Because, I mean, look,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: them dudes, they should not have been allowed to sit down.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: They should have come out the game and had to
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: go stand up, lean against the wall if you need
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: some air or whatever it is. But they didn't need
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: those seats. They didn't come to the game. That was
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: right there. All the money that you could have had
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: when them motherfuckers did not show up. But the Knicks did,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and the Knicks have for a month. And good gracious,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: they are going to the NBA fight. I believe Oklahoma
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: City is in trouble. If they are down Jalen Williams
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and they are down... A.J. Mitchell, who is amazingly important
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: for a guy that I'd never heard of as of
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: six weeks ago. The adjustments seem to be pretty clear, though,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that they've decided to halfway guard, have like the one
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: and a half double, like the half double on Shea,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and what these other cats going to do.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Also, you know, that eight foot guy at the rim.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of like these hard traps that
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: then the ball goes around and Alex Caruso's wide open
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: or something like that, right? Like that is the thing
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: about the eight foot guy is interesting to watch is
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that they don't have to switch. Right. Like you can
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: run that screen or whatever and then Victor's there just
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: holding it down until you can get back over there
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: and then now you don't wind up with these crazy
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: mismatches or anything else. They put a hurt on them
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: in game four on Sunday and Chet has been rendered useless.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Like, Victor, that has become a rivalry like Serena and Sharapova.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: That at some point early in the game, Sharapova won
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: them two, and then she got her ass kicked for
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: 20 years in a row. That's kind of, I mean,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: it ain't been 20 yet, but this is no longer
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a rivalry. Like, it's at the point where I'm surprised
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that nobody has called Victor and said, hey, man, it's over.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: You ain't got to, like, you won, bro. You won.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Because Chet, you see it on his face. I'm a
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Chet guy. No, no, no, no, no.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Doesn't want to be anywhere else.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: He's just like, that was supposed to be me. Like,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Victor's in the NBA looking like Chet did in high school.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And if you go look at the clips of Chet
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: in high school, they are unreal.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: How much, how often do you think Chet has to
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: do like this?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: That's where he is. It is just got his Victor
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: City's two hand dunk back. Once again, when everybody talks
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: about how Victor is like how he's not strong. No, no, no, no, no.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: That's not true. He has base issues. Right. Center of
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: gravity issues. But Oklahoma City got got to get this
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: thing together. Right. And I mean, I think we're going
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to know what they're going to do to try to
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: get it together, which is turn up the foul and
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: turn up the flopping. That's what they do. I've seen
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the people on the internet try to make the argument
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: that it's really just some sort of narrative with Oklahoma City,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and you can go and you can count it up
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and everything else. We watching the games, man. We seeing
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: what they doing. But it dawned on me in game
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: three that it was important to note, they got a
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: good one on San Antonio in game three. It's important
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: to note, they be doing all that fouling, they be
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: doing all that flopping, but it does not change the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: fact that they are really good. And that's why we
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: got to start calling them what they are, the Oklahoma
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: City Blue Devils. That's what they are, man. They some devils.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: They be out there playing devilish basketball, all on the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: premise that you can't call everything. But then when you
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: get down to it deep down, you have to be like, yeah, man,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: but them cats are cold. Like they are. They are good.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: And they are. They may be in trouble now. And
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: by the way, their best player, who falls down all
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the time. And you could say that part of that
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: is him trying to stay healthy. Part of that is
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: him being janky. Have you seen his on-off numbers?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I have not.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: They are much better with him off the floor and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: have been for a couple of series now.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: That's wild.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Like I want to say it's like in the 40s.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: But you know what I think that is? He's playing
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: most of his minutes when Victor's out there.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Like early in the series, it became clear to me,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: The Thunder weren't just going to have to win the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: non-victor minutes. They're going to have to dominate the non-victor
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: minutes because the Spurs are able to dominate in his minutes.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Like this game five, shout out to my man Shannon,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the pivotal game five. Now we're in it. Game five
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: is pivotal. Game six, a team will stave off elimination,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: hoping to push it to a do or die game seven.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: But this one, this is important. But it's also important
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that somehow we got to make it known that this
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Duke shit does not prosper. It's important for San Antonio
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to get this done. It's not just about whether or
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: not they win or not. It's about sending a message
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to everybody that... You're not supposed to prosper in this way.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: This isn't it. But they are so grabby. This is not...
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: There's nothing to like about this team. And it's sad
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: because it should be everything to like about this team.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to be honest with you. And this
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: is the thing for me about the Thunder as it goes.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: It's not even really fun because I feel like... I
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: feel like it's on one hand, it's people like us
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: who think they play a little janky, right?
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, it's people who are like, eh,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: what's the big deal?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: And that's not what it needs to be if you're
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: going to play basketball like that. Like, if you're going
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: to play basketball like that, you need to be polarizing.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: And there's only one solution to that and the only
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: way that they can become polarizing rather than just be
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit janky. Y'all got to go get some
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: more white boys. In particular, Some, like, at least one
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: or two really obnoxious white boys. And yes, I am
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: saying and advocating for exactly what you think I'm saying.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: That's right. If y'all are going to do this, if
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: y'all are going to play like this, you got to
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: lean all the way in on it and go make
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a trade for Grayson Allen. If you're going to be
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: out here living this way, emulating this, because the worst
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: thing about it is y'all a little bit passive aggressive
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: about it, to be honest, right? Like it's just annoying
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: in such a way. Go the whole way and go
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: get him in there to be tripping people. Right? If
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you're going to be devils, turn it all the way up.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Go out there, get you Grayson Allen. Where Greg Paul
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: is at? Could he be an assistant coach? get out
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: there and teach them cats all the tricks of the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: trade or whatever it is. Like if you're going to
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: do it, do it.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Is there another Hurley somewhere?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. Maybe make that like. Have
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: what's his name? Do they got like a bell or
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: something that they ring before the game? Like since they
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: had a thunder, can they get like a gong or
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: something or something that they can clap or whatever and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: get Christian Laitner to do it? If you're going to
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: be it, be it. That's all I'm saying. If this
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: is what you want to be, if this is what
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you want to stand for, then go ahead and do it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Because right now, you're just impossible to like. That's all
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: No.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Be hateable, and then by being hateable, especially if you
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: get the right blend of Caucasians, because you got to
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: understand this, man. We've talked about this before. White people,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: when it comes to basketball, they got low self-esteem. It's
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a real crab in a barrel kind of situation. It's
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: been a long time since they've been able to really
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: galvanize behind some white players in that way. But I
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: feel like you guys could try. If y'all turn into
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: some actual, factual champions, they won't be able to help themselves.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Especially when you juxtapose against the Spurs and all them
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: dreadhead brothers in the lobby that they got, you could
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: turn this all the way up, especially just with the
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: way that y'all be playing. Y'all got to do this because, look,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you need to understand this. I think we all got
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: a handle on the greatness that Victor is headed toward,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: but I now fully understand how great he about to be.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: And you know how I know this. Y'all already getting
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: them right here at them corners. Right there at the corners.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: That hairline is already starting to run away, like all
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the greats.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Now, back in the day, like Russell and Chamberlain, for
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: whatever reason, they wasn't like that. But in modern times,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it's become very clear. If you truly going to be
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a great, you got to have some of these, you know, Jordan, LeBron,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. I mean, if you pay attention to Steph Curry,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: And corners been running away from him for a while, too. Kobe,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: he had the same issue. Kobe was out there. Kobe,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: after a point, Kobe had the lowest number of hair
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: clippers ever. So he could still say that he was
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: getting haircuts.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: It's heading that way. Victor going that way. Y'all need
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: to be careful. Boy, let me tell you something, man.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: And I know some of y'all are going to think
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I'm hating, but a lot of y'all are going to
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: know exactly what I got to say about this. It's
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: a little different to tell this to white people because
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the nature of y'all's hair allows y'all to account for this,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: to cover for this in much different ways. But I
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: feel like I don't really want to say this dude's name,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: but I saw this dude on television the other day.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: He had a hairline down to his eyebrows. And with
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the exception of my man, Michael Smith, everybody that got
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a hairline like that, don't not one of them motherfuckers deserve.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Everybody who got like a super persistent hairline, he ain't shit,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and you know he ain't. They don't never deserve it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: The real ones, the true great ones, this is something
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: that we got to overcome. Every day for us is
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: a challenge. Iron sharpens iron, and we thereby become better people.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: We become better at everything we do. That's who we are.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: But when you see them cats with them hairlines down here,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm not talking about the cheaters. I'm talking about
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the actual ones. And I was saying, I was talking
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: about P.K. Subodh. He really bothered me last year when
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: he got out there I told people he wasn't talking
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: like a white man. He was talking like a hockey player. Hey,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I stopped watching the NBA when Kobe retired.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: What?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Why do you even get out of here and say that?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And look at his hairline. All the way down to
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: his eyebrows is always somebody that don't deserve it. Also,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: except for my man, Joel. Joel has a... rather persistent hairline. But,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but he do
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: be hating on people a lot. That's what I just
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: say about Subban. I was the NBA since Kobe. Right?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It's always them. Not Victor. Hell nah. Victor about to
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: be out this bad boy. We got to start calling
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: him LeCount. You know what I'm saying? He going to
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: be coming down right here. He going to be throwing
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: up the woo real soon over there. That's how you
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: know it's around the corner. That's how you know what's coming.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: But anyway, they the OKC Blue Devils. I know some
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of y'all don't like that because y'all root for OKC.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I know some of y'all know it because y'all root
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: for Duke too. But all I'm telling you is If
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: they don't want to be seen in that light, stop
• 30:33
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• 32:00
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• 32:21
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• 33:01
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• 33:21
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• 33:23
  Speaker 2: about to come up, okay? If Belgium is playing the Congo,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: who you think I'm rooting for and why? Okay, we
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: do care about the politics. Don't act like you don't,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: all right? What struck me about this, and I also
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: want to be clear about this, the whole, you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: this is going to fracture the locker room. NFL locker
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: rooms are wild, segregated, and full of white players who
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: support Trump and black players who support Trump. That is
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: not no revolutionary rule. That's not how the NFL works.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: This is why the Jackson Dart thing is interesting to me.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Me and my man Rob would talk about this too.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: He said that this is what Abdul Carter is saying
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: to Jackson Dart, and this is what I'm saying to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart. Take that monkey shit off. You embarrassing us.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: And what I'm talking about is this. You in here,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: think about all the love that he got for them chains,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: when he out here doing dances and all of this stuff.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you it's a few cats in there. That
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, he cool. Not only does he pull
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: up like introducing Trump. Can we be honest about this?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: He sounded stupid. And I'm not saying simply because he
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: was there with Trump. How did he say that I
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: am pleasured to be here? And then he says something about,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think there are a lot of blue haired,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: blue heads or something like that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: That blue hairs. I think you said not a lot
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: of blue. What are you talking about?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Old people?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Is that, was that like, I.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Think that is like a, a online descriptor of people
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: of the far left.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm like, but people with blue hair, when
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I was growing up, that's what we said about old people.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: But you think there are Democrats that root for the Giants? Like,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's stupid that people are like, oh, that's
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: a really dumb thing for him to do, playing in
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: New York. You know how liberal New York is. New
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: York is not nearly as liberal as you think. Let
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: me tell you where it's really not as liberal as
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: you think. MetLife, right? Like, go meet some Giants fans. Okay? Like,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani, he lives in New York, too, and he
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: won a couple of elections up here. That's all I'm saying. Like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: this is not the liberal bastion that you think it is.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: It's not that. But it would be helpful, Jackson Dart,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: if you did some winning, right? Like, if this is
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the game you decide to play, look, you can go
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: ahead and do that if you want, right? That is
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: his option. I do think it's important to note that...
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: What is the best way to put this? I do
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: think that it is important to note that Trump is
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: not the same as any other politician. Like, standing with
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Trump is not just people, and people have a problem
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: with it, it's not simply, I disagree with your politics. Okay?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Somebody went up there and stood with Curtis Shliwa during
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the mayoral election. It's not going to be a thing. Right?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been an issue. This is very particularly
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: about this very particular man. But if you want to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: try to tell me that nobody cares about the politics
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: of the quarterback, then I need you to explain to
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: me why Donald Trump thought it was worth having the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: quarterback at his rally.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I have a quick observation.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Feel free.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: After Jackson Dart's first year in the league, what do
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: you think was the biggest thing he needed to work on?
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: His decision-making?
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Risk aversion.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say, knowing a bad idea
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: when he saw one.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Not charging headlong into a dangerous situation that would harm
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: himself or his teammates.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I would argue, regardless of your politics, you'd have to agree,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: still needs to work on his risk aversion.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to Steve Tisch. Remember him?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Remember that guy?
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm talking about something we haven't mentioned in a while.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Oh God.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Hey man, he had to go. And for those of
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: you who don't remember, Steve Tisch was in the Epstein
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: files and it's still so funny. Them girls was just
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: trying to get modeling jobs. Them girls was just trying
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: to like not go back to one of them lobbyists, right?
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: They just didn't want to go back to the old country.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Steve Tish looking for love. The girls was complaining to
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Epstein like, yo, I just thought I was going to
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: have to go on a couple dates, maybe on some...
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: This dude, like, he's looking for a relationship. I thought
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: he was just a trick.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: All right, moving on. The SCORE Act, a piece of
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: legislation aimed to curb the big business of college sports,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: has been torpedoed by the congressional-backed Black Caucus. This move
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: came last week. They said in a statement, quote, for generations,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Black athletes have held build college athletics into one of
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the most powerful and profitable industries in American life. Yet
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: at this very moment, those same communities face coordinated attacks
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: on their Democratic representation. Too many leaders across college athletics
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: have chosen silence. Bo, you had a reaction to this
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: piece of news.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Joel and I talked about this last week,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: but unfortunate for us, the news of the NAACP and
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: the CBC getting together for this boycott, it came literally
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: while we were sitting down. So like Joel and I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: were kind of going through it and talking through it.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And he and I, it's been great to talk. It
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: was great to talk to him that day. And he
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and I have kind of stayed in communication about this.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And it's been great to kind of help me Think
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: about what is going on. I know he's writing something
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: about this for the ringer that I look forward to
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: checking out. But that detail right there really struck me
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: because one place where I don't think I express myself
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: in ways I don't i don't think i express myself
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: correctly is that i do not think that college athletes
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: are too young to participate in a struggle or a
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: resistance against the political order of the day again my
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: mother was out there 14 15 years old getting shit
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: done so obviously um I see an appreciation and a
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: value in young people participating. But I do think something
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: worth noting and what I remember about the story with
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: my mom that is important is that it was a
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: group of these students in Oklahoma City and they were
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: taken to New York City to see a Broadway play.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And that was the first time in their lives that
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: they had been somewhere that was not under the thumb
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: of segregation. And so they got a taste of what
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: a certain life was. And then that comes back and
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: informs them and informs their struggle and their resistance to
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: what was going on. But they had a taste and
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: an understanding of what's going on here. My issue with
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: this was the idea that I felt like people of
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: a certain level of status and prestige were outsourcing the
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: fight to young people, not unlike politicians who send young
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: people off to fight a war.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Like I felt like in order to achieve the goals
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: that they thought that were important, that what they were
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: advocating is for somebody else to go fight the fight,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and I don't really understand what it is that you
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: over here doing, right? And so what I do not
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: approve of is asking these young people to make a
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: sacrifice in the name of what you want when I'm
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: not sure that you're going to be out here making
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: a similar sacrifice yourself, okay? That's where my issue came down.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: This thing about the SCORE Act is very important in
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: understanding my point, and it actually left me even more
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: infuriated with the CBC on this. The SCORE Act, for
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: those of you who don't know, The NCAA has poured
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars into
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: lobbying in Congress. We did something about this on Game Theory,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I want to say, in 2023. My guy Andrew Cooper
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: talks a lot about this also. They have spent a
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: lot of time, a lot of effort, and a lot
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: of money in lobbying Congress to beg Congress to save
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: them from the mess they have created by not coming
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: up with a way to treat players properly and figure
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: out how to equitably deal with all the money that's
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: come in. Somebody's had to sue them at every step
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: to get them to do something that is close to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: being right. And now it's led to this measure of
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: chaos where the money's all over the place. The money,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: they say it's NIL, but it's really salary, but all
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: these things, right? So the score act is what the
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: NCAA has wanted to get pushed through. And Donald Trump
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: had tried to push through. OK. It did not get
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to the floor for a vote. Now, I think it's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: important to note that this is a bit of a
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: bipartisan issue.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: And when I say a bipartisan issue, I mean the
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: idea of approving of name, image and likeness payments and
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: compensation for players, which used to be a bipartisan issue
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: in opposition and then kind of became a partisan issue
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: where those toward the left were more in support than
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: those on the right. And there have been studies that
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: show that, uh, how you felt about civil rights was
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: a correlating factor into how you felt about paying players. Now,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: when you look across the board, like Bob Orr, former
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Chief Justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court, that is
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: a Republican man who for the last 15 years has
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: been strongly on the player side of these matters. That
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: is an example. Tom Mars, the attorney, who I don't
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: believe is a very left-wing figure that I've talked to,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: he's on this side. Like, you go look at it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: It's become a bipartisan thing to be on the side
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: of the players on this one. with the SCORE Act.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Byron Donalds in Florida is on the player side of this.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Other Republicans are on the player end, on the end
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: of this, opposing the SCORE Act. One of the biggest
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: oppositions or reasons to oppose the SCORE Act is the
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: SCORE Act puts a disproportionate amount of power to the
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: NCAA on what to do. It overrides a lot of
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: these state laws that protect NIL payments. It prevents players
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: from unionizing and collectively bargaining and also from being recognized
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: as employees. That is what the SCORE Act does. The
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: AFL-CIO has a very strong thing that you can find
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: online in opposition to the SCORE Act. Right. Just about
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: anybody I know, including Andrew Cooper and other people who
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: work in organizing on the player side, are opposed to
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the score rack. The Byron Donalds do. His opposition on
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: it is is a restriction of trade, basically. That is
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: why many Republicans oppose it, because it restricts the economic
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: power and flexibility of the players. It is an anti
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: player proposition. OK. And the Congressional Black Caucus. has made
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: it seem as though they would have been willing to
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: vote for the SCORE Act if they got the redistricting
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: that they wanted or wanted to prevent the redistricting that
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: we have seen happen in some places, okay? If they
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: were willing to vote for this provision that works in
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: opposition of the players in order to get what they want,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: That explicitly means that they are willing to sacrifice the
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: interests of these young men and women for their own goals.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: It means that they are literally sending these young men
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: and women to the front line of a fight while
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: they sit back. This is why I am opposed to
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: what this is that they talking about. This is also
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: why I don't be wanting to go to they little
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: weekend in D.C. Because what are you doing? What are
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: you doing? How dare you guys get out here and
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: actually say that? Now, maybe what you're just trying to
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: do is to claim some credit and make it seem
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: like you was making some noise. Right. Maybe that's why
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you want to do it. Maybe that's why you're going
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: about this. But if you want to get this done,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: think about this. The players that you're talking about and
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: you want not to go to these southern schools, you're
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: by and large talking about high school players, okay? Guess
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: what high school players can't do?
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Vote.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Like, as it stands for them, this is an issue
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: that isn't really relevant to them. That's why I brought
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: up the thing about my mom and them going to
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: New York. Once they go to New York, they understand
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: what the situation is that they're in. They get a
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: different perspective. And now they got a taste in it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Now they got skin in the game. Now they got
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: an investment and want something to change. You are asking
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: people who literally cannot vote to make decisions based on voting.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Now you could say, oh, okay, well, the theory in
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: all of this is obvious. Maybe it is. But the
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: move is you need to get on the ground and
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: start working not just on them, but on everybody early.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Because the truth is we slept at the wheel just
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit when all these things happened. They never did.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Voting Rights Act passed in 1965. And since 1965, they've
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: been trying to get that shit rolled back. Now we
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: jumping up talking about, hey, man, let's have a boycott. No,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: let's get on the ground. Let's organize and let's start
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: thinking about this like a 20 year project. But as
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: of right now, it feels like all these people are
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: trying to do is run a transactional game. And the
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: currency that you're using for the transaction is these young
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: people and they are too young to be bargaining chips.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, a couple of voicemails. A lot of
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: good ones. Here is our first.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Hey, Bo, this is Will from Oklahoma City. So I
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: had this idea. I noticed all the NBA playoffs talk
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: has been about refs and fouls. And number one, that's
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: very dorky. But my idea to fix this is, and
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: it goes across any sports, all refs should be ex-players.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Let me know what you think about that. All right, bye.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: All right, so he said all refs should be ex-players.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Ex-players.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I kind of like that. What do you think about that?
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I kind of, especially like players who used to be enforcers.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine, or players who used to yell at refs.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine like KG as a ref?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Or like Rajon Rondo as a ref.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like that would wind up being an extension
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: of these guys now being in the media.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: It would turn into wrestling very quickly.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: But like these guys, like everything is different. Like on
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: the wire is season five when Jimmy McNulty became the boss.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: He's like, Hey man, this is not what I thought
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: it was. I don't, I think the refs, if they weren't,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: you know, losing their jobs as a result of this,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I think the refs would love this as much, if
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: not more than anybody else. Even if it was just like,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: we going to do it for like a week.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Just to punish him. Like, like instead of Luca being suspended,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: he has to be a ref for a game.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's just go see it. well the other
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: thing that happened that's gonna happen too is now we
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: gonna see refs fighting Right? Like, now we go see
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: refs and players scrapping it out.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Again, wrestling.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. You know what? Great idea, Will, from Oklahoma City.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: And the best part is, if the refs were all
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: former players, although that would be a really bad economic move, like,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: let some other people get some money, right? Yeah, for sure.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: But if the refs were former players, then your beloved
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Blue Devils would not be able to get away with
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: so much of this jankiness.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our next one.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Hi, good morning. This is Carter from Brooklyn, New York.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to say the episode with you and
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: Spencer Hall, y'all really need to write that book on
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: where the money is from because I knew the money
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: came from somewhere. I just didn't know it got that
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: deep in certain schools and certain conferences. I love to learn,
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: and when you know what you're watching, you see it differently.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: All right, man? Keep doing your thing.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Have a great day.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. And I really think
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: that me and Spencer might need to like look into this.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: It's at least an extended podcast series.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I tell you this though. I would need to get
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: my weight up. It would not be hard to tell
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: what Spencer wrote and what I wrote. And I don't
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: need that in a fashion that is complimentary to myself.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: All right. Here's our last one.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Hey, what's up, y'all? This is Eric calling in from
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles, California. I just started doing deliveries for a dispensary,
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: and I really, really hate my job. Not exactly how
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: I want to be making a living, but I just
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: got laid off from my job, and I didn't feel
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: like depleting my savings, so I decided to pick up
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: some hourly work to just keep myself financially steady. So,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: As I've alluded to earlier, not really a fan of
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: my job. So I do little things to help pass
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: the time in my eight-hour shift. So one of the
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: funniest things or one of the things that I do
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: is when a name pops up for a cannabis delivery,
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I decide– well, not decide. I basically try to guess
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: if this person is black or white. And so I
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: would get John Smith. Michael Johnson, just like Saturdays here
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: and there, and I just guessed that they're black or white.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: There was one instance where there was a woman named
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  Speaker 4: Harmony Jenkins, and I was just like, oh, dead ass,
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  Speaker 4: this is black. I was dead wrong. So this deliver
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  Speaker 4: was in Hollywood, drove up to it, and Miss Harmony
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  Speaker 4: was a very bubbly white woman, very pleasant to talk to.
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  Speaker 4: We shot the breeze for about five minutes. and we
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: exchanged pleasantries and went about my day. I walked away
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  Speaker 4: thinking that that was the biggest shock of my very
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: short cannabis delivery career, but one of the funniest experiences
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  Speaker 4: I've had so far in my recent employments or trying
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  Speaker 4: to figure stuff out. But, anywho, thank you, Bomani. Thank
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  Speaker 4: you for all that you do. You and the crew,
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  Speaker 4: God bless. I'll talk to you later.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Bye-bye.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything I can add to that, Ryan. Wow. Hey,
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