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Deconstructing the New DCU · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor John Collider Podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky stuff happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about it. I'm aerial casting and with me as always
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  Speaker 1: is the has watched so much television person Jonathan Strickman
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  Speaker 1: ba bae bump bump bump. All right, I don't catch
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  Speaker 1: your reference. Okay, that's fine. It was off it was
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  Speaker 1: off key, so, uh, it will be explained when we
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  Speaker 1: get to the what we have been watching section. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: now I get your reference, but we'll explain it later.
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  Speaker 1: Great listening for all our listeners. Um. Yeah, Jonathan spent
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  Speaker 1: the week catching up on a lot of geek media.
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  Speaker 1: Ye did a lot less so but that's totally okay.
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  Speaker 1: We can totally take turns um and Yeah. So we've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about today, but we we
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  Speaker 1: need to start off with a couple of of sad
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  Speaker 1: bits of news people that we lost, people who were
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  Speaker 1: important in the geek sphere. A couple of actors who
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  Speaker 1: have recently passed away. Yeah, and the first is Lisa Loring. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You probably know her best as the original Wednesday from
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  Speaker 1: the Old Old Adams Family show from six the New Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: If you've been watching the Netflix television show Wednesday, uh totally.
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  Speaker 1: Um mirrored some of her dance in one of the
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  Speaker 1: episodes off of Lisa Loring's Wednesday Dancing in the original series.
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  Speaker 1: She passed away from a stroke. She was with her family,
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  Speaker 1: and our thoughts go out to her family, yes, as
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  Speaker 1: as our thoughts also go out to the family of
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  Speaker 1: Annie Worshing. She was an actor who was in lots
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  Speaker 1: of geeky properties. So she appeared in the Vampire Diaries,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she was in Star Trek Enterprise for those
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  Speaker 1: of you who remember that series. She had appearances in Supernatural,
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  Speaker 1: she was in Charmed, She was in twenty four, which
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  Speaker 1: I know gets a little more into the hardcore action
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to geekiness. But she also definitely had a
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  Speaker 1: geek following though. Oh it did. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: were like me and you were I was like hooked
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  Speaker 1: on twenty four. It was I didn't watch a single
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  Speaker 1: episode until it was five seasons en and then I
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  Speaker 1: watched one episode of like season five, I think it
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  Speaker 1: was season five. Um, I watched one episode. I think
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  Speaker 1: they had two episodes back back, so technically. Uh, my
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  Speaker 1: partner and I we watched the first two episodes and
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  Speaker 1: we were like, oh man, now we have to watch
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  Speaker 1: the whole darn thing. Um. And she appeared in that series.
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  Speaker 1: She also served as the voice actor who did the
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  Speaker 1: character tests in the video game version of the Last
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  Speaker 1: of Us. She was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and we're very sad to have heard of her passing.
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  Speaker 1: And she leaves behind the husband and children, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's even a go fund Me page that was set
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  Speaker 1: up to help kind of help with the burdens that
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  Speaker 1: family is currently going through, so you can look that
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  Speaker 1: up if you are interested. Very sad. She did great
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  Speaker 1: work and seemed, from everything I've heard, to have been
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  Speaker 1: a genuinely good person. Yeah. And and before you go,
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  Speaker 1: why does a family need go fund me? When? When?
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  Speaker 1: If if the person who passed away was a television
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  Speaker 1: an actor, A lot of actors don't make that much money, um,
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  Speaker 1: especially depending on where they live, uh and how often
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  Speaker 1: they get gigs. So you know, yeah, I mean like,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's easy for us to fall into that trap
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  Speaker 1: where we just associate TV or even film actor as
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  Speaker 1: being incredibly successful and financially well off, and that's not
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  Speaker 1: always the case. Uh. It's the case for a very select,
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  Speaker 1: lucky and talented few, but for many, many others. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when we say working actor, often we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about people who are working and they're like, when they're
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  Speaker 1: not on screen, they are hustling to get that next
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  Speaker 1: gig because that's how they pay their bills. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you think about it, especially with inflation inflation, I
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  Speaker 1: haven't looked at the sad grades lately, um, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: they vary depending on what you do. But if you're
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  Speaker 1: a part of the union or you're working on a union,
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  Speaker 1: because most film and television that hits major networks falls
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  Speaker 1: into that, you know you're you're looking at making around
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  Speaker 1: a thousand dollars a day maybe over time if you
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  Speaker 1: go over you're eight or ten hours, I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: which it is. But um, and you go a thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars a day, that's a lot. But if you figure
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  Speaker 1: you only get one gig, like if you've got one
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  Speaker 1: line and you're doing one day of a TV show
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  Speaker 1: and you only get that like once a month, twice
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  Speaker 1: a month, that that doesn't pay your bills. I know
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  Speaker 1: we've gone through this before, but it's it's a sticking point.
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  Speaker 1: I've had very um, very not not to go off
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  Speaker 1: on a tangent based on somebody's loss, but I think
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  Speaker 1: it's it's important I had my family has been very
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  Speaker 1: supportive of my journey as a creator and entertainer and actor.
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  Speaker 1: But I've heard so many times you know, these people
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  Speaker 1: get overpaid. And yes, there are people who do get
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  Speaker 1: overpaid in the entertainment industry, in the sports industry, but
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  Speaker 1: you have to think about all of the work they
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  Speaker 1: put in behind the scenes, off the clock, how often
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  Speaker 1: they get work, what their cost of living is where
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  Speaker 1: they are. There was a Cosby actor who ended up
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  Speaker 1: working in a grocery store because he couldn't pay his
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  Speaker 1: bills anymore. So well, and and and also there's like
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  Speaker 1: when you get to a certain level, like you're talking
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  Speaker 1: prestige level actor, where you know you are talking about
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  Speaker 1: those huge pay days, then you're starting to have a
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  Speaker 1: conversation about how that actors following how that actor's own
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  Speaker 1: reputation and people's associations with that actor end up playing
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  Speaker 1: a part in selling tickets to the film. Right, So,
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  Speaker 1: then like you get to a level where it is
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's always going to be difficult
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  Speaker 1: for you to say, yeah, Robert Downey Jr. Deserves fifty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. It's hard to get to that point, Like
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  Speaker 1: there is like a point where there's a a leap
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  Speaker 1: that's too big for me to make. But you could
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  Speaker 1: also say yeah, but if the person is the primary
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  Speaker 1: reason why people are going to see the film, then
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  Speaker 1: that does I mean, that has real value to it.
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  Speaker 1: It just gets to a point where, like I think,
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  Speaker 1: it gets ridiculous once you get to a tipping point. However,
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  Speaker 1: for the vast majority of actors out there, they are
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  Speaker 1: never going to see that as a reality. If they
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  Speaker 1: are fortunate they can make a living on their art. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and and once you've done enough work, you can ask
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  Speaker 1: for above scale and make more than that. But again,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a journey. Um. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that they set up a go fund me for
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  Speaker 1: Annie's family. Um. And I think we, while we don't
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  Speaker 1: always cover celebrity and entertainment and geek deaths to these
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  Speaker 1: two are especially poignant right now because of the popularity
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  Speaker 1: of Wednesday and Last of Us. Yes, yes, we we
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  Speaker 1: felt like though Neither of those properties would have even
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  Speaker 1: existed without the work of these women, so we definitely
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  Speaker 1: wanted to acknowledge them and to send our our best
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  Speaker 1: wishes to their families and friends. Yes, um, and now
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go into something a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: hope upbeat is the right word for it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know based on our first story, but we're going to
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  Speaker 1: go into our thirty seconds and less or less, which
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  Speaker 1: is really less less. You're going to get less of
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  Speaker 1: a of a of a commitment for us to stick
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  Speaker 1: to thirty seconds. Yes, all right, And the first story
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  Speaker 1: is is that we've got a So there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of d C news we're going to get into.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the lesser pieces of DC news is
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  Speaker 1: that we're getting The Batman Part two. And yes, that
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  Speaker 1: is the official name of the of the Robert Pattinson
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  Speaker 1: Batman sequel, The Batman Part Two. It's coming out in October.
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  Speaker 1: In October. Um, we'll get into it a bit more,
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  Speaker 1: but this is not going to be our mainstream Batman
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  Speaker 1: in the d C u UM, but enough people liked
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  Speaker 1: it that they're they're keeping forward with it. I think
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  Speaker 1: they've got a really cool idea for for that. So yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 1: next up, I have a little bit this one I
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  Speaker 1: like a lot. I'm gonna go so disney Land Paris,
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  Speaker 1: which I have been to once and really thought was
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  Speaker 1: very pretty. Not as much to do there as I've figured,
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  Speaker 1: but one thing that there is to do now is
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  Speaker 1: a nighttime show called Avengers Power the Night and it's
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  Speaker 1: heart projection. They project on the side of the Tower
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  Speaker 1: of Terror, part pyrotechnics and part drone show where they
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  Speaker 1: used drones with lights on them to create different shapes
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  Speaker 1: in the sky, including Jolnir or Mew Mew and Captain
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  Speaker 1: America Shield and it looks awesome. Yeah. The picture in
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  Speaker 1: the article you linked has Meumeu hitting the Tower of
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  Speaker 1: Terror and it's hilarious. Yeah. There's also another picture that
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  Speaker 1: shows the the circle of sparking light that the Sorcerers
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  Speaker 1: are able to create, like like doctor Strange. Yeah, interesting stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could see this, but I don't currently
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  Speaker 1: have plans to go back to the Sea Land Paris
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  Speaker 1: anytime soon. Fair point. Uh all right, My next three
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  Speaker 1: seconds are less is that there is a Rogue Light
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  Speaker 1: action RPG coming out that I feel like it's made
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  Speaker 1: specifically for Jonathan. It's called The Night Versus Giant, or
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  Speaker 1: not good Night Versusant Knight Versus Giant, The Broken ex Caliber. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's about King Arthur trying to restore Camelot after a
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  Speaker 1: monster has pulled out the Holy Grail. It's coming to
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  Speaker 1: Nintendo Switch, Police Station five, Xbox Series Excess and Steve.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds cool. Uh. I had not heard of this
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  Speaker 1: until you put in our show notes. So, uh, it
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  Speaker 1: does totally sound like it's right up my alley. I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you this. If you want a rogue light, um,
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  Speaker 1: you should, and you you want to get into it
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  Speaker 1: and find out what what a good one is all about. Hades.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is such a good game. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's the Schnexi rogue Light because every he's attractive. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: is so hot. Everyone is so so hot in Hades. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and not because of the fire. Yeah, that's the well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't hurt, but uh yeah, you can
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  Speaker 1: got a hot grandma in there. Yeah, I said it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going on to my next one and here
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  Speaker 1: I go. So we're getting another Futurama reboot. We talked
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  Speaker 1: about this before and now we have a little bit
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  Speaker 1: better idea of when we can expect to see it
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  Speaker 1: because Uh, Lauren tom who is the voice actress who
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  Speaker 1: does the voice for any Wong in the series, was
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  Speaker 1: asked about that after she appeared with the other Futurama
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  Speaker 1: cast members at sketch Fest, and she said to expect
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  Speaker 1: it this summer. We don't really have any more details.
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  Speaker 1: We know there's gonna be twenty episodes, but that's about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's She's also going to be in the revival of
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  Speaker 1: King of the which we're getting. Um, I believe she's
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  Speaker 1: going to be in it, Yes, she is. Uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: coming to Hulu. Honestly, I just started watching King of
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  Speaker 1: a Hill. I had never I didn't watch it in
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  Speaker 1: a tay day. Um. It's surprisingly endearing and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it would fit today's sensibilities, but I'm honestly
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  Speaker 1: interested to see what they do at the show me too.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite lines from cartoons ever comes from
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  Speaker 1: the King of the Hill episode where they've put Bobby
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  Speaker 1: on uh, some medication for a d h D. He's
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  Speaker 1: just sitting at the kitchen table staring into nothing, and
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  Speaker 1: then he says, there's some milk in the fridge. That's
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  Speaker 1: about to go bad, and there it goes. I just
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  Speaker 1: watched that episode last night. That that one made me
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  Speaker 1: laugh so like, that was the Bobby line beyond all
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  Speaker 1: other Bobby lines that made me laugh so hard. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think I missed the next like five seconds of
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  Speaker 1: the show because I was just like, what a great
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  Speaker 1: absurd set up. Yeah, and you know, I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: fan of ugly cartoons. I definitely didn't like Beavis and
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  Speaker 1: butt Head, which is the creative team behind King of
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  Speaker 1: the Hill, at least one of them is um. And
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  Speaker 1: but this show, it's it's a loving family. UM, it's
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  Speaker 1: delightful and yeah, I just I'm surprised I like it
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  Speaker 1: so much. Um it's really made a resurgence, uh with
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  Speaker 1: gen Z with the I don't know that's my purse,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You quote that's from King of the Hill.
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  Speaker 1: If you've heard that quote but you don't know what
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  Speaker 1: it's from, you know, But this show is from the
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  Speaker 1: nineties and early thousands, so I believe. Yeah, yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: Well here's my next one. So you remember everything everywhere
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  Speaker 1: all at once, Well, if you turn that upside down,
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  Speaker 1: maybe then it becomes nobody, nothing, nowhere. Uh, this is
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  Speaker 1: actually stop. I only have thirty seconds. There's a sci
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  Speaker 1: fi comedy premise. Uh, that's very high concept premise where
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  Speaker 1: you've got one person who's an actual person and the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the world is populated by non people. But
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  Speaker 1: the non people start to have people desires. And it
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  Speaker 1: kind of makes me think of, um, that Ryan Reynolds movie.
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  Speaker 1: What was the one where he was an NPC. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: free guy, free guy, free guy. It reminds me a
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  Speaker 1: free guy mixed with the Truman Show. Interesting. Interesting, I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in that. I still need to watch everything everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: all at once. I meant to do it this pecial.
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  Speaker 1: You know what didn't happened. I didn't even say who
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  Speaker 1: was in it. I got thrown off. Somebody interrupted me.
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  Speaker 1: The people the people who are going to be in
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  Speaker 1: it include Octavia Spencer, Joseph Gordon Levitt, and Lucy lou
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  Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, I'm really I'm really already intrigued by
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  Speaker 1: this and I want to I first I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be really good, and then I want to watch it. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I will watch it too. You I have to have
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  Speaker 1: to catch up on so much, and I also have
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: to catch up on Doom before the next season, and
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen probably next week. Uh. But also you
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  Speaker 1: said if you turn everything everywhere, all at once upside down,
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  Speaker 1: it would turn into no, nobody, nothing nowhere, But it
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  Speaker 1: turns into uh, I'm flipping it and turning it upside down.
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  Speaker 1: So eck no to la goodness given give you an
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  Speaker 1: inch to swim all over me. Oh oh, Jonathan gotta
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  Speaker 1: go quote Little Mermaid at me. Well, sorry about that, Audriel. Uh,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: let's let's talk. Let's talk. We're saucy today. Let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about let's talk about some of the stuff we saw. No. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Ariel mentioned she did not have an opportunity to watch
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  Speaker 1: as much because she's very, very busy. I had auditions, y'all. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you did get. You did get at least a little
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  Speaker 1: bit into the second episode of The Last of Us
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned I did. I am really enjoying it. I
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  Speaker 1: won't say it's an easy watch, but it's a fun
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  Speaker 1: funnest a wrong word. No, it's easy to watch. It's
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  Speaker 1: a hard show, but it's easy to watch. Um. I'll
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  Speaker 1: say this that episode two did not have the same
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  Speaker 1: impact on me that episode one I enjoyed it. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was a good episode. I did not feel
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  Speaker 1: destroyed by episode two the way I did with episode one.
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  Speaker 1: But that's okay because episode three justice it looked at
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  Speaker 1: episode one and said here hold my beer, and then
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  Speaker 1: episode like I'm still thinking about episode three, and y'all,
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  Speaker 1: I watched that Sunday night, like this is. It's almost
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: a full week after I've seen it, and I've been
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it all week long. It was one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite, one of my favorite television episodes I've seen
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  Speaker 1: in memory. And also it joins a very short list
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  Speaker 1: of television episodes I don't think I'm ever going to
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  Speaker 1: watch again because the first experience was so special that
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  Speaker 1: there's no way to relive that. So everybody I know
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  Speaker 1: who's who has seen episode three has said that, which
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  Speaker 1: I think is rather fantastic. You know, if you're going
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  Speaker 1: to put that much budget into a TV show, it
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  Speaker 1: better be good, and so many high budget television shows
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  Speaker 1: are just okay, um uh. But it is interesting to
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  Speaker 1: me because after you watched the first episode, you said
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  Speaker 1: you weren't you weren't sure you would be able to
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  Speaker 1: keep up with this episode. And despite the third episode,
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  Speaker 1: wrecking you. When you told me it did, I said,
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna be able to keep watching? You're like, oh, absolutely, absolutely, yes, Well,
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  Speaker 1: and it's I don't want to spoil anything, because it's
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  Speaker 1: spoiling episode three would be a crime. I think people
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  Speaker 1: need to I think people need to discover that and
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  Speaker 1: truly experience it for the first time by watching it.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't watch a review, don't read a synopsis. Watched
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  Speaker 1: the episode and it is tragic, but it's also equally beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the difference between episode three and episode one.
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  Speaker 1: Episode one is tragic and ugly. Episode three is tragic
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  Speaker 1: but beautiful, and I think that is the thing that
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  Speaker 1: that ultimately, Yes, I was sobbing. I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: ashamed to say it. I'm a sap. I cry it everything.
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  Speaker 1: I I'm a punk rocker with tattoos who cries at
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  Speaker 1: the drop of a hat, and I'm okay with that. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Episode three had me literally like racking sobs, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I tear up just thinking about right now.
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  Speaker 1: I told you I thinking about all week and um.
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  Speaker 1: But but I ultimately at the end of it, it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like heartbreak and then feeling like that was the right
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: way for that show to go, and it's so effort
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  Speaker 1: from the game. The game version is also great. Don't
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  Speaker 1: get me wrong. I don't think that the TV show
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  Speaker 1: is fundamentally better than the way the game did it.
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  Speaker 1: It's fundamentally different. And that's okay, hmm yeah, yeah, which
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad because now maybe I can also convince my
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: partner to watch it with me, because he doesn't want
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to watch it until he's played the video game. And
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he's ever going to play the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: video game because he got a PS five and bought
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Last of Us right around the time that the pandemic
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: really got going. Yeah yeah, and then it then it
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: feels like it's a little two on the nose. Yeah yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it is interesting. I saw on TikTok this this person
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: who's who's a fun fun guy? Is he a fun guy?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: She is a fungy expert. She she is fun, she's
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: fun to watch talking about how people are like, could
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: these mushrooms that infect like bugs also infect us in
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: r a US into zombies? She's like, no, you gotta
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: stop hating well and and like in the in the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: first episode, they explained that like in the very first episode,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: there's that that uh cold open where they talk about
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: how the Court of Steps could not survive in a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: human host. But then the hypothesis that is put forward
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: is should the earth continue to warm and if the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Court of Steps were to evolve in order to survive
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: in a warmer world, then potentially you could get to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a point where they couldn't Like, that's interesting. I don't.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would happen that quickly, but it
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: isn't interesting hypothesis. Are our bodies are so much more
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: complex than any book body? Um? I mean I've met
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a few people where I think that might not be true.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Exceptions aside, it would still be like there would have
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: to be so much evolution and adaptation. Yeah, for are
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: also simple. It's simple organisms, right, So yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I mean like, yeah, I mean a few of a few,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a few folks that I know personally. Aside, I think
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: most people are more complicated than your typical aunt. Uh.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: On top of the on top of last of us,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and I saw I finally saw violent night. So I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: caught up with Ariel, and as we both suspected, I
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: fell somewhere in between Ariel, who did not really like
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Violent Night. And our friend of the show, Shay, who
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: really loved Violent Night. I was kind of like it
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: was entertaining. I didn't think it was the greatest thing,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: but I didn't hate it either. So um and David
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Harbor was I enjoyed his performance. But the more I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: thought about the more I was like, I've got a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: lot of I've got a lot of notes for this movie,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: things that I wish had been a little different than
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I think would have made the movie more enjoyable for me.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But then they didn't make it for me. So where
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: do I Where do I come out saying, hey, do
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it better? Um? I also saw I'm caught up with Velma. Sorry,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I think I might be hate watching it. I don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: want to. I don't like the idea of hate watch
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm watching it because I keep wanting it to be better,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and it it just I don't know who the show
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: is for. It's for the people who wrote the show. Jonathan.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you watch Pitch Meeting, that's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: exactly what he says. I like, it's like I think
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I said this last week. It reads is somebody who
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: thinks they're jokes are so funny. That nobody gets them
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and they have to immediately explain them all except for
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: explaining jokes doesn't work and unless you're a very specific
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: kind of comedian, and also the jokes aren't funny. I mean, yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: mel Brooks is someone I absolutely adore as a filmmaker,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: but whenever he does the whole joke explaining thing, I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: despise it. Uh. I also think that he the writer's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: are feeling like they're being edgy and uh. And I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: don't want to use the word woke because everyone uses
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: it and a lot of people use it as a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: derogatory term. I feel like they're trying to make a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: lot of statements and all they're trying to have their
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: cake and eat it too. That's what I want to say.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: They're trying to both uh poke fun at certain society
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: thoughts and practices and then also indulge in them at
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the same time. And that really irritates me because I'm like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you can't have it both ways. You can't be guilty
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: of the thing that you're criticizing and just by pointing
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: it out, say see it makes it okay when we
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: do it. That doesn't work. Yeah, yeah, but then you
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: also watch some better stuff like night Court. Okay you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: say better, Um, we wouldn't. We wouldn't to mention that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Night Court has already been renewed for a second season,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: which is like, usually when you hear something this earlier,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: it's that a show gets canceled, not that a show
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: is gonna get another season. Um, but yeah, they're They've
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: only had like, what four episodes come out already and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they're already renewed. I'm honestly surprised. Yeah, me too, because
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I watched the first one and I'm like, this is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: not good. Um, like it was, I could see where
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: they were going, but like it's it felt to me
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: like one of those shows where if you stripped the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: laughter out of the actual episode, it would just feel
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: kind of depressing, like like there was not anything there
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: where I felt the laughs were justified. We're gonna have
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a story at the end of this episode where we're
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: going to talk about something that has its own artificial
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: laugh track in it that comes in at inappropriate times,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and how that is weird. That's kind of how I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: felt this show was. I was like, why why is
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: there laughter at that line? That's not a very funny
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: line at all. But I will say the episodes get better,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Like the most recent one, I felt, while not being
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: great TV, was at least a decent sitcom episode, although
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it feels very much like a nineties era Like it
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: feels like it feels like the nineties era night court
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: type stuff where it's kind of corny and characters are
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: very very broad and shallow at the same time, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it's weird to see it. Is it is? I mean,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: it just means that, like the emotional connection doesn't really happen,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: but it's also light and and potato chippy and and fun.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: You also tried to watch a couple of other things
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, I tried to watch Sick, which we
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: talked about not that long ago. So I guess this
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: is my way of saying, hey, I got Peacock, Hey
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I subscribe. I had a deal like it was like
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: twenty bucks for the year, and I'm like twenty bucks
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: for the okay, so I would and signed up. Um,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and I just started watching stuff and Sick was on there,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and we had talked about that. That's the one that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: was set in April, so right as uh states were
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: going into actual lockdowns and stuff, and two young women
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: go to a cabin. Uh. Not a cabin, it's a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: freaking enormous lodge, a mansion uh that one of the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: young women like her family owns, and then they're stalked
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: by a killer. I watched about probably about a third
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of it, and it introduced a character that I found
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: so so irritating. I was like, no, no, I'm not
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: gonna watch any more of this, and then I just
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: turned it off and I read the synopsis. Gotcha, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you also watched a little bit of poker Face. You
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: know you bought peacocks. But we're also going to have
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: to watch some Apple stuff real soon. I know. Well,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to talk to you offline about that
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: because as I went through my email and I didn't
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: actually have the little I have the email, but not
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the link that I will get it to you. Okay,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: But the the poker Face, I like a lot of
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: people are saying they're they're comparing it to say Colombo.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty fair comparison. I will say
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: that if Natasha Leone shows up in your neighborhood and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: she tries to make friends with you, you should probably
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: run because that that things don't turn out well for
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: people who get close to her character in this series.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: But uh, she's very, very entertaining in it. She's playing
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a really interesting character. The gimmick is fun where she
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: she can detect if someone's telling a lie. Um, yeah,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's uh, I think it's worth watching. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: will say it's a little it's got a little nastier
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: edge than some other mysteries I've seen recently. Yeah, and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you said episode three had some animal endangerment stuff. I think,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: oh no, outright animal cruelty is in episode three. Um noting.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I'll say it to this way. If you were to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: check the website, does the dog die in the end,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it would say no, So the dog does not die,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but for a while a little worse, well, for a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: while you're led to believe that that the dog did
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: not survive. So okay, speaking of things that people are
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: led to believe won't survive or will, I mean, that's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that's that's apt. Honestly, let's talk about d C. Yeah,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: so clearly, you know, we talked a lot towards the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: end of last year in the beginning of this year
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: about how with Peter Saffron and James Gunn taking over
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the d C Cinematic Universe over at Warner Brothers Discovery.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: How that was gonna be a big change. Ariel already
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: alluded to that a little bit with The Batman too. Batman,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: those films are now going to be essentially classified as
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: else Worlds titles, else Worlds being this kind of offshoot
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of d C titles that are not part of the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: official d C timeline. So Joker will also fall into that,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Which is funny that they have to start rail the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: bat with the exceptions, right, Like that's crazy, Like the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: stuff we're getting that we know about a lot that's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: coming out, are the exceptions to the rule of Mike Well,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that just shows you how messy DCS approach to film
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and TV series already was. Yeah, I will say sadly,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you know we said this last week. Do Patrol and
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Titans don't fall into that? On the one hand, maybe
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'll get to play somebody from one of those franchises
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: in the future, but um, yeah it. I guess there's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: just so much call for the very very dark The Batman,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: in the very very the dark The Joker that they
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: had to keep with it. But I'm glad that our mainstream,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: main Batman will not be the same Batman. Yeah, I'm
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: waiting any day to find out who will be Batman. Uh,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: it's really just kind of a throw the dart at
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the dark board at this point. I guess really what
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: they'll do is they'll just walk into one of those
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: awards shows, look at all the guys in there, and say, okay,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: raise your hand. If you haven't been Batman yet, I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: need to be Batman. I could be Batman. You Batman? Okay,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: all right, Well, we do know, we do know several
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: of the planned projects that are to be part of
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the early phase of this DC, this new DC rollout,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: one of which, let's see where you've got the seven
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: episode animated series called Creature Commandos, and Creature Creature Commandos
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: is kind of a cool product. It's something that you
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't think we would ever get as part of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the DC universe. Yeah, it's Classics Monster originally was a
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: team of classic monsters assembled to fight Nazis, which is
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I guess kind of suicide squad ish um. But they're
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: putting a modern take on it, and I think the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: really cool. It's already in production. It's written by James
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Gunn and I think the really cool thing about it
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: is that they're looking for voice actors who can also
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: play those characters once those characters go live action, And
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I think that is really cool because so often that
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Yeah. Uh. We're also supposed to get a
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: spin off of the Suicide Squad and Peacemaker called Waller,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: named after Amanda Waller, the the character played by Viola Davis,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: who is the government official who has no morals whatsoever,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: will do anything to get the job done, and has
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: no hesitation and killing her very own soldiers. Um so, boy,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you really want her in charge? Anyway, It's gonna have
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a series of her. I bet it'll be fun and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: fuzzy and warm and friendly. Listen. If you had said
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: this is what you're getting for d C, I probably
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have said that I was excited about watching it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: But it is being written by Crystal Henry, who wrote Watchman,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite HBO shows of all time,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: even though I didn't like the Watchman movie, and Jeremy Carver,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the creator of Doom Patrol, which is one of my
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: favorite HBO TV series. So while it feels a little
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: darker and more grim than maybe a show that i'd
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: want with that like Power Team behind it. I bet
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: it's going to be good. Yeah. We also learned a
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: bit more about the Superman film James Gunn has in mind.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: If you recall, uh, he said he was going to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: make a Superman movie with a younger Superman in it,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: it would not be Henry Cavill, who will not be
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: reclaiming the role, uh, and that it will somehow be
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: something totally new. And he's further gone on to say
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that's not going to be an origin story, which is
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: interesting with a younger Superman. Yeah, but we're not gonna
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: like it sounds like he's already going to be established
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: as Superman because otherwise it would be an origin story, right,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: So this will be you know, I don't think they
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: want to retread ground that's been covered so many times.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: But it is supposed to be a kind character and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that he's supposed to be inspiring, which I am happy
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to hear him still said, Henry Cavill doesn't get a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: chance to be that one because he wanted it so
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: badly the few moments he was allowed to be. As
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: James Gum puts it, the embodiment of truth Justice, the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: American way kindness in the world that thinks kindness is
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: old fashioned. The moment he got to do that in
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the Justice League, he was brilliant. Yeah, I'm sad that
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: we don't get a full movie with that, but um,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: this one's called Superman Legacy. And also we know that
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the like it's it's a film that hasn't been cast,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: not even a foot of film has been shot, not
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: that anyone shoots on film anymore, but but we do
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: know that the release date is July eleventh at least,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: so they're probably gonna get starting on it soon. Uh.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: The next thing we know about is something that I've
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: been wanting for a while. I've been wanting a John
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Stewart Green Lantern story, but the way that they're doing it,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm on board with. Yet I'm
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: sure it'll be good, much like we used to say, Um,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: if I'll just write a check to Marvel and just
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: give it to him for for whatever movie they're coming
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: out with next, which I don't necessarily feel the same
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: way anymore. James Gunn has earned a lot of trust
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: in his superhero telling from me M M, so I
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: have completely lost track of where I was. But basically,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: they're doing a Green Lantern TV series. Um, they're doing
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a Green Lantern TV series with how Jordan and John Stewart.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: But they're gonna be based on Earth and it's going
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to be kind of true Detective E, which is scary.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: It's not what I wanted out of my John Stewart
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Green Lantern. But I I'm gonna trust James Gunn on
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: this one. If the Yellow King shows up in the lanterns,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: that's dangerous for them because they don't do so well
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: against the color yellow. I didn't even think about that.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It's the first thing I thought of, Sinestro, is the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yellow King. Um. Yeah, then we have the authority, which,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: as Cartman reminds us, we must respect. Uh. This is
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: another team of superheroes that are kind of like anti heroes, um,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: which I mean. James Gunn goes on to say, like
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: superhero stories aren't just about good guys and bad guys, right,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Like you've got some people in between. You could argue
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Batman easily falls into that category. Right. Batman is a vigilante,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and while he has his own code, uh, he also
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: is known for breaking lots of bones. That kind of thing. Right,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: So the Authority is like a super you know, at
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: all costs necessary, you you get the job done kind
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: of superhero group. And I get that, but I'm starting
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to pick up on a lot of those, like I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: don't I'm I don't want d C to turn into
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: what Watchman was sending up, right, Watchman not the series,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: but the original comic and to some extent, the film.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: But that yeah, no, the film, not the TV show. Um.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: That Like those were about kind of deconstructing the superhero mythos, right,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and to to kind of say, like, this is what
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: heroes would actually be like in a world as opposed
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: to the way they're portrayed in the comic books. And
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want d C to just be that. I'm
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: sure it's not going to just be that, but that
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: was something I was willing to get away from with
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the previous d C regime. Yeah. The one thing I'll
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: say about the Authority, well, I'm not familiar with it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: My husband has read some of it because I was
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: worried that. I was like, that sounds like the Boys,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it sounds like Watchman. We've already had enough of that, um,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And he said, it's not that bad. He said, it's
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: not that bad. Well, I have not read it, so
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I will trust him. Every character is just Jack Nicholson
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: from a few good Men. That's not good. No, I'm kidding, Okay,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I can't handle that truth. Yeah, that's what a Saffron said.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: They're kind of like Jack Nicholson from that. But I'm
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: sure it's not every character, and that's just kind of
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: all right. Well, we've got a few more. Next up,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: we got Paradise Lost Um, which is supposed to cover
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the homeland of Wonder Woman and have like a whole
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: power struggle storyline going on there. They've described it as
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: being kind of Games of Thrones esque, ah, which I'm
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: assuming they're talking about intrigue and not nudity, because otherwise
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of women running around
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: naked on that show. I mean, it could be both. Well,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: it's an HBO Max series. Actually, I don't know. Paradise
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Losses it probably will be well, yeah, because that's who
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: owns it. Okay, I'm losing my mind a little bit today. Honestly,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I think this is the one that I'm least excited about,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: because that's not you know, hopefully, hopefully we'll we'll start
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: seeing the promotional stuff in my mind will change. But
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that's not where I want my Wonder Woman to be. Yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I don't even know it will be. It will be
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: interesting to what extent Diana plays a role in Paradise Lost.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is supposed to take place. It says
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it takes place before the events of the Wonder Woman films.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: But that's interesting all by itself because that suggests that
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the Wonder Woman films exists within that timeline, right, unless
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: they just mean this takes place before Wonder Woman becomes
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: wonder Woman. Yeah. Maybe maybe she's still a child. Maybe
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: she hasn't been created from clay yet. Um. The next
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: thing we have is the not Robert Pattinson, Uh, Batman
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: bull Been Beautiful. No, it's the Brave of the Bold,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: the Brave and the Beautiful, the Brake Okay, fine, the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: beautiful Batman and his Wonderful toys. Uh. So this is
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: this is a comic series that's been around, it's a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: cartoon series. It's been for kids, but it follows Batman
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and his son Damian Wayne as Robin. Yeah. And uh,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and now we're gonna get a a movie, a full
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: movie of this, so um okay, Like, it's interesting that
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: this is going to be the first appearance of Batman
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: in the official new dc U timeline because it's a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Batman who already has a grown son. So but I
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: feel like I don't remember which cartoon series it was.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: There was one where Batman was old and Damien was
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the main Batman. Yes, yes, there was. It's just it
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: makes me. It confuses me because it means there's all
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: these other Batman stories that have already happened when in
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the world of d c U. So the question is,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: are they ever going to go back and revisit any
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: of those stories, perhaps even using a different Batman. But
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: do you need the Pearl story again? No, not the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about going to the movies and or opera.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about like, if if Batman is old enough
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to have a fully grown son, then Batman has been
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Batman for a while, which means Batman has had numerous
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: encounters with lots of different characters, and the way that
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: DC films have been in the past, you can't guarantee
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: that that DC villain is still going to be alive
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: at the end of the movie. So I just want to.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to miss out on some
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: cool Batman stories that cannot happen once Batman has gotten
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to the point where he's had a grown son. Maybe
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: that's the reason why they kept else the the Batman
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: in the else worlds. I don't think that his son
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: has grown yet. He's going to be Robin, which means
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: he's going to be either a preteen or a teenager,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: like grown enough. He's not like a bebbit. I'm not
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: gonna it's not gonna be dressing up a bebet in
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: red and yellow and then throwing the babe people. As
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: as dark as it sounds, Damian Wayne in the cartoons
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: at least can be a lot of fun um. But
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: he was raised by assassins. So I just have this
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: image of Batman going, no, you cannot kill that person. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: well we'll see. I mean, like, like, like I've said,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I should never doubt James Gunn. He has
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: done some amazing work. It's just it's one of those
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: where when I read about that, I was like, really,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: so you're you're jumping pretty far into the Batman timeline,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: but it's the beginning of your DCU timeline, which means
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you're limiting the number of stories you can tell unless
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you're just determined to get rid of the Bruce Wayne Batman,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you know, three years down the road and switch him
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: out with Damien Wayne. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see what he does. Um.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: The other thing that I think you were excited about
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: was a Booster Gold television series. Yeah, because Booster Gold,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: along with Blue Beetle, were two of my favorite characters
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: from the Justice League International comics series. I want to
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: say they were. They were largely comic relief in that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: particular title, Like that comic book was very lighthearted and
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: in times extremely silly, and they were two of the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: silliest characters. So, um, I kind of am looking forward
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to seeing this. I don't think they'll make it quite
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: as goofy as those comics were, but um it is.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: It is being described as a story about a loser
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: from the future who uses, who uses technology that is
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: common in his futuristic timeline too kind of achieve the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: powers of a superhero. But he there's nothing special about him.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: He's just making use of technology that's far beyond our
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: own capability and our present day. Yeah. Um, I'm I'm
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: interested in the Booster Gold series. I'm interested in the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Blue Beetle movie that is still coming out. UM. Side note,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: because I don't think it's in this this article. Um.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And we're going to go through the lat There are
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: two more things we want to talk about, and we're
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: dooom real quick because we got other stuff we need
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: to talk about and we're running out of time. Um.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: James Gunn watched the Flash movie and said that it's
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: one of the best superhero here are movies he's ever seen,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: although Ezra Miller's place as the Flash is definitely up
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: in the air. Yeah. They've been very generous when talking
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: about Ezra Miller, talking about giving them the time and
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: space needed in order to seek help and to become
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: a better person. And that's admirable, right, Like I can
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: admire people wanting folks to be better. But but it
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: it involves a lot of ignoring the actual charges that
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: were placed against Ezra Miller and ignoring the actual particulars
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Like it requires you to it requires you to not
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: talk about the specifics because once he starts talking about
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the specifics, you realize, oh, this is indefensible. Really. Yeah, yeah,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: so we'll see, Um, We're also getting a Supergirl movie
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: not a surprise, and a swamp Thing movie. The Supergirl
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: is gonna be dark and gritty, which I don't know
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: if I want, and swamp Thing is going to be horror,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: which I'm completely fine with. Well, I think if you
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: don't want a dark and gritty version of Supergirl, you
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: should go and watch the already in existence Supergirl movie.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It is not dark, is not gritty. It's also not good.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I've seen it more than once. It is I have
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: also seen it more than once. It is terrible, but
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: terrible in a schlocky way that I really enjoy. But
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: it is not good. Yeah, yeah, um, I'm interested. If
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: you listeners are excited or tentatively nervous about these DC announcements,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: you should write and tell us will tell you how
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: at the end of the episode. But for now, we
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: are done with d C and we're gonna pop over
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: to Marvel. Yeah. So we got ourselves another aunt Man
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: movie coming out that Quantumnia Movies month, And part of
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the thing that happens in that film is that you
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: find out that Scott Lang has written a memoir. And
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: what is fun is that Marvel decided to make that
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: fictional memoir a real thing in our real world that
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: you can really order and really read for yourself. Yes,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And then they had real life Paul Rudd, who plays
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: pretend Scott Lang or real Scott Lang in a pretend
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: world advertise that book. It is so meta and bizarre
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and I absolutely love it. Yeah, this is one of
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: those promotional things that I really dig In fact, that
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: could be a full discussion someday about like interesting innovative
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: ways to promote a property that are outside your norm,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: like it's outside your trailers and you're like, you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: talk show press kits and stuff. Yeah, we've talked about
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: it a little in the past with like The Ring
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: and stuff. The Ring was brilliant. Oh yeah, No, that's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the one I always think about because the the viral
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: marketing campaign for The Ring. It would not work today
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: because no one has a VCR anymore. But what they
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: did back in The Ring is that at certain theaters,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: some production assistants would leave videotapes that look like, you know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: there's nothing, no label on them or anything, but just
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: leave videotapes on the windshield of certain cars in the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: parking lot of a theater. And if you went home
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and played the tape. It played the video from the
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Ring and then had the little promotional thing at the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: end about when the Ring was coming out, And like,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: what a brilliant viral way to market your film. This
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: is a much higher profile approach. And also it's not
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: like Marvel needs it, no, but I do appreciate it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: It's a way to kind of work around some of
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: that Marvel fatigue. Yeah. Uh, let me ask you this area.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Are you fatigued by all the horror movie trailers and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: make you watch I was just about to say I was, Uh,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: this one actually made me jump and scared. I'm not
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: watching this movie, Jonathan. Yeah, yeah, this one's This one's
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: apparently related to a work by Stephen King that I'm
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: not familiar with. Um, so you thought that this one
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: looked really scary. See, this one didn't do much for me.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: But maybe I need to watch it again. I haven't
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: watched it since I put it on the list. I'm
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: afraid of the dark, Jonathan. Oh see, I like it
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Pitch Black. I like there to be not a sliver.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: You know, Pitch Black was an okay movie? All right,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: we are not I do not stand then Diesel in
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: this house. So um uh, I uh know, I like it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I like it as dark as it gets. Uh, I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: mean it looks like it. It looks like it could
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: be a perfectly fine horror movie. And maybe it's actually
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: a really good one. The trailer just didn't do much
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, it's really it's gonna be a really
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: great movie for you. If you like Stephen King, you
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: like scary movies, and you liked Little Leah from the
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Obi Wan series because she's the main character. Oh is
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: that who? That is? Because I haven't I haven't watched
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: O B one yet. That's still on my list. That
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and and or still on my list. Uh yeah, I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: mean you know it's it's I will never say no
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: to more horror movies. I like. I like the horror genre.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: It is actually really hard for me to watch now
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: because my anxiety has gotten to a point. It's hard
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: for me to watch stuff that specifically plays on stress
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and tension and anxiety. But when it's really good, I'll
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: put up with it, and I really enjoy it. It's
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: just that I have to I have to be in
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the right mindset to be able to do it. Yeah,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I get it, you know. We've all been through a
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: lot the past few years, and some people more than others.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: And I had to watch like four episodes of Night Court. Yeah,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: well are you good? I would ask you, but I
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: already know the answer because I don't think you watched
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: the first two seasons. But are you going to watch
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the third season of Battle Piccard Galactica. Uh, that's gonna
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: be a big no ghostwriter. Um yeah, So okay, So
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: we got the trailer for Piccard season three, and I
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: mean so the gang is back together, most of them anyway.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Wesley Crusher is nowhere to be seen, but his mom
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: he has been seen in Piccard has Yeah. I didn't
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: know that. I didn't want to spoil it for you,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: but yeah, he showed up in a previous season spoilers
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: for anybody who hasn't watched it, I'm so sorry. Is
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: he still like traveling around with the traveler guy? Uh
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: spoilers turn this off for like five seconds, so if
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: you don't want to hear the answer, Yes, that's what
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: he shows up as at the end of season two. Gotcha?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Got you? Well? Um? Yeah, it's mostly the gang back together,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: like it's a lot of the people from Star Trek
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the Next Generation, and that probably would have really gotten
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: my attention if there hadn't been U Percard season one
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: or season two. But even with this trailer, it just
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it feels like they're different people
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: like it feels like they're different characters. And and you
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: could argue, well, a lot of time has passed and
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: of course people change, and that there's validity to that,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: but there's such a breakdown in they're the way they
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: handle themselves in the trailer versus the way they handled
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: them selves in the show. Because the Federation it's a
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: very military kind of of uh organization, but they're not
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: acting like like disciplined military personnelitymore. And I don't know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I just I feel like I feel like it's almost
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: like people cause playing as these characters, but they don't
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: understand what actually made the characters tick. And so they
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: have the same name and they look the same as
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the characters they're playing, but they're not behaving the same way.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: And that's the most important part for me. But that's
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: that's that's just my reaction. And I understand there are
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: other people who truly love the seasons of the Card,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that. I just it just
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't hit for me. Yeah. I've liked parts of both seasons. Um,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: they weren't completely solid all the way through for me,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: But um, I do like the characters when they have
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: shown up. Um. In the other two seasons, I have
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. And in season two like that that
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: will wheatn thing. It delighted me beyond beyond comprehension. Um. Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: You know, at least Warf seems like he's acting kind
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: of Warfest because that's true. We're actually out of all
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the ones and granted, you know, we don't spend a
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: lot of time with each character in the trailer, so
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm being unfair anyway, but I have all the
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: ones who do appear Warf like. I was like, oh
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: my gosh, man, Michael Dorn, you are solid, Like this
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: is the writing is solid for your character, and you
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: are solid in your performance. That was what felt the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: most true to me. Yeah, I agree, I agree. Um,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I will watch it. I don't have a paramount plus
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: right now, but I will get it to watch. Season
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: three also about probably about the time that The Strange
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: New World's next season comes out, because Carol Kane will
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: be in it, and she's awesome. The next thing we
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: have is a true to have to talk about, Who've
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: had That's a sentence. The next thing we have to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: talk about is a trailer for something called The Power. Yeah.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: So I was not aware of this film at all
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: until I saw this trailer and I just happened to
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: it popped up in my my feed, like the recommendations,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: because now that I watched trailers all the time for
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: this show, I start to get alerts when they happen.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Um And it's a story where it's it's a alternate
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: version of our world where young women are starting to
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: manifest these incredible powers where they're essentially related to electricity,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: and it's it's meant to be like an evolutionary thing
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and it only is affecting young women, and so it's
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: it's a thing where they they both literally have more
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: power because they have superpowers essentially, and they metaphorically have
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: more power. Because it's obviously playing on the fact that
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: young women in at least in our society, frequently find
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: themselves at an imbalance when it comes to power. That
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: there is there are a lot of other factors in
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: the world that are leveraged against them, and they have
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: to be very careful with how they navigate life in
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: order to do so without like running into negative consequences,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and so like this is kind of like, oh, now
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: look at how the turns are tabled, because now the
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: young women have the power, and yeah, there they Yes,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: they're going to go nuts with that power because they've
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: not ever had it before, and like talk about hand
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: fisted metaphor. You know, it's it's so obvious what they're doing.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's going to be bad. It might
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: be really really good. But this is not one of
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: those things where you're like, huh, it's almost like they're
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: trying to say something. Yeah, yeah, I you know, conceptually,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine with it. Uh. The trailer just makes
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: me feel like it's something something I've kind of seen before. Yeah,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's a lot like a lot
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: of I feel like it's got a lot in common
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: with like like a lot of superhero especially more recent
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: superhero stories, where it's a character who traditionally has been
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: trodden upon who then gains powers and has to uh
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: learn the lessons of how to use that power in
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the right way. For them, and um, yeah, I think
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: it looks interesting. Like I don't mean to I'm not
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: dismissing this movie. I think the trailer looks compelling. Uh,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: even though I think that the messaging is like, it's
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: not subtext, it's just text. Um, I don't really have
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: a problem with that necessarily if it's still done well.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I wish the trailer was compelling. To me. It felt
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: very same old, same old, to like Sabrina, or that's fair,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: you know. I haven't watched Sabrina, but I have a
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: feeling like if I did, I might feel the same way.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can definitely, I can definitely see it
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: being an evolution from things that came much, much, much earlier,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, right. I can see it
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: being like a just as the girls have evolved to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: have these powers in the in the film. I could
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: just see that as being the story being an evolution
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: of girl finding herself in possession of of strange strength
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: and powers from the nineties. So yeah. The next trailer, however,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: which I had no idea about and Jonathan putting into
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: our show lineup, is called the Portable Door. It's a
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Jim Henson h Creation Workshop movie and it looks so good.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: It's also an adaptation of a series of books. There's
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: seven books in the Portable Door series, and yeah, this one, uh,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: it looks really interesting. Like if I had to describe
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: it to someone like how would you how would you
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: describe the portab Door, I'd say, Well, imagine if you
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: took Doctor Strange and Harry Potter and you put them
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: both in a jar, and you shook the jar up
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: and then you poured out what came what was left.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: That's what the Portable Door would be. Yeah. For me,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it feels like a mix between maybe Hitchhiker's Guide and
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the Chronicles of Narnia. And there's also there's an element
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: in it that I'm not sure where you would point to,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: maybe like the Kingsman or something like that, but there's
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: there's the element of this secret agency that is doing
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: stuff beneath the awareness of the rest of the world,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a little bit of a hint that there's
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  Speaker 1: something sinister going on with that as well. And so
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: there's that element. You've got not just the magical stuff
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: and the wonder, but you've also got this uh, mysterious
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: and perhaps malevolent organization at play well. Yeah, which, uh,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: speaking of Sabrina again, which is not necessarily a show
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: that I recommend, it's super super dark. Um. Miranda Otto
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: is in The Portable Door, as is Sam Neil, Guy Pierce,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: and Christoph Waltz, who has gone from playing old timmy
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: villains to corporate villains. I want Christoph Waltz to be
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: the bad guy in every movie I watch. Uh, he
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a bad guy either, he can
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: be a good guy. I just I find his intensity
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: when he's playing a villain is so phenomenal. Like he
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: he can be terrifying without raising his voice or threatening
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  Speaker 1: you in any way. Like I think of the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of Inglorious Bastards and it's some of the scariest, most
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: tense film I've ever seen, and it's really just him
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: sitting and being very quiet and calm. But you know
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: that he he is capable of ending your life in
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  Speaker 1: moment it is. He's phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very much looking forward to The Portable Door. I
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: can't wait to see more about it, but not too
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  Speaker 1: much because I don't want the movie ruined. Um. I've
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: never I didn't know it was books, So thanks, I
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: might go read them as well. Excellent. Uh. Next up,
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  Speaker 1: we now know that Paramount Wobby. It's already happened now,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: but Paramount Plus and Showtime combined their streaming services, uh,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: which not a huge surprise. I mean, we've known for
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: a while. We've been talking about for a year now
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: about how how streaming services are struggling because the cost
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: of producing prestige content uh is sometimes outstripping the revenue
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: you generate by getting subscriptions. So we're starting to see
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: some consolidation. I mean, obviously we already saw that with
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Warner Brothers and Discovery, and now we're getting that Discovery
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Max HBO Max kind of combo coming out. Well, Paramount
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: and Showtime is now Paramount Plus with Showtime that's the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: name of the new streaming service. Uh. And so yeah, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't necessarily object to this, because, as we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about on this show, I feel there are way
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  Speaker 1: too many streaming services already. The fact that I just
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: finally subscribe to Peacock is part of that. Like the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: fact that I don't have Hulu anymore is part of that.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I still need to do Apple Plus. So I got
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to do that. But yeah, yeah, so seeing seeing a
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  Speaker 1: couple combined forces doesn't doesn't necessarily make me upset unless
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  Speaker 1: they do the Warner Brothers Discovery thing where they start
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  Speaker 1: taking a hatchet two tons of content and then even
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: removing it from the service. Yeah, they have kind a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: few things, which is going to happen with any merger.
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  Speaker 1: But Paramount plus it's performing really really well. Um. Obviously
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: they didn't need my subscription to stay afloat um, but
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: they'll get it again at some point. Custom Card season
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: three and yeah, in Strange New Worlds and some of
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the other stuff. Um. Our last story of the day
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  Speaker 1: is uh for completely free. You can watch an AI
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  Speaker 1: generated Seinfeld episode that never ends on Twitch. Yeah, have
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  Speaker 1: you watched any of this areal? I watched like five
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  Speaker 1: minutes before I logged on with you didn't almost drive
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: you crazy. It was very like just just from the
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  Speaker 1: standpoint that nothing happened and there was a lot of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: like dead space. Okay, so yeah, this this is um
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: it's called Nothing Forever is the name of the series,
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  Speaker 1: and it is I've watched a lot of it already
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  Speaker 1: because I covered it. I covered it on Tech Stuff
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  Speaker 1: as well, and uh, yeah, they're using a generative, pre
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: trained transformer to create the dialogue. It's clearly been trained
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  Speaker 1: on Seinfeld episodes because the scenes have the structure of
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  Speaker 1: a scene from Seinfeld and that they have kind of
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: a set up the way those scenes do, but they
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  Speaker 1: don't necessarily progress the way a Seinfeld episode would. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it is about nothing, but often the scenes make very
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  Speaker 1: little sense. What makes even less sense are the stand up.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see any of Larry doing his stand up
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: like it was turning to stand up about the time
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  Speaker 1: that I had to come talk to you, so I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: chose you over AI generated Larry stand up. I mean,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: that's that's the sweetest thing I've heard all day. But
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: welcome the stand up. The stand up in it is
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: truly bizarre. It's not funny, like there's no once in
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: a blue moon. You get an actual joke and I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: which is crazy. I'm guessing they had to have lifted
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the jokes. It can't be a generative joke. I'll give
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: you one of the jokes that is done, although this
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I think was done in one of the scenes, not
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: in stand up, which was I heard that it's illegal
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: to laugh loudly when you are in Hawaii. If you
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: laugh there, it must be a loha. Some people I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: know would love that joke. I'm one of them. Ariel,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I love that joke. But most of the time you
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: don't get jokes at all, which is, you know, you
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: just get weird, nonsensical conversations. One of the ones I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: saw was it was they've changed the names of all
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: the characters. So Jerry is Larry, George is Fred, Elaine
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: is a Vaughan, and Kramer is like cock Lov or
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: something like that. Um, and so Larry and Joy our Fred.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Larry and Fred are talking and Larry says, did I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: tell you that I heard the pet store telled the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: streets sold a unicorn? And Fred's like, do you think
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that's real? As I don't know, and then Fred says,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I wish we had bought the unicorn. Imagine the conversations
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: we could have. And then there was random laugh track. Listen,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: you're laughing at it now, so like I can't laugh
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: at the lo Loo chocolate joke. I feel like the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: AI had to have found that somewhere, and it had
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: to It could not have it could not have just
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: generated that because nothing else actually comes across like a joke.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: It's it's The cool thing is that if you listen
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: to the lines in a scene, they all relate to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: each other. It's not like they're literally saying random things
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: like I found a hammer in the box. The neighbor's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: cat keeps attacking me. Well, I'm going to go get
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: lunch now. It's not like that, right, Like it actually
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: connects to each other, which is pretty impressive, But it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's not formed in a way to actually work as
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: a comedy. The humor is in how random and not
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: funny it is, and then the random laugh track really
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: ramps that up. And that's what I was talking about
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: with like night earlier, Like if you stripped the laugh
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: track out of night Court, it would be a very
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  Speaker 1: different show. Or if you just randomly put in laughs
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the way it is on Nothing forever, it would be
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: very unsettling. Yeah. Yeah, there, it's still learning. I'm sure
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the randomly AI generated episode will get better. But also
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to get to a point
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  Speaker 1: where we use AI to create a situational standard comedy
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: series instead of people, because you know, it's still pulling
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: from somewhere right, so well, and and I don't think
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: we are going to get to that point. I mean,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: we've seen a few stunts with people using AI to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: create things like a children's book or whatever, or like
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: a little stand up mini set, but it's it's typically
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: when you go through it, you're like, this lacks. There's
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: a spark that it lacks. And even if you were
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I think if you were to even do like a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: double blind test and you gave people the text to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: read and they weren't told whether or not it came
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: from a machine or a person, I think that nine
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: times out of ten, the computer generated thing would underperform, uh,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: if you were if you were putting up against an
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: actually talented creator, not not just anybody. I mean, obviously
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: there's a ton of stuff that gets out there that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: is just not good, shoddy and poorly done. But for
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: like someone who's really good at their art, I think
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: they will always outperform the machines that we see. I agree.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: MPR didn't an article on that recently too, which is
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: pretty interesting. UM check it out if you guys have
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: interest in listening to more about that. UM. Yeah, I
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: might go watch a little bit more of the Seinfeld thing,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: just because Um, morbidly curious. But there's so much good
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: stuff that I want to watch and I still haven't
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: even watched this week's episode of Dimension twenty never After,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: so um it's low on my list. Mm hmm. Well
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think that wraps up the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: news we wanted to talk about. This was a great conversation. Yeah,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: very long. Um, if you guys have thoughts on any
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: of the things we talked about, we'd love to hear
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: from you. Uh. You can reach out to us in
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: many forms, but not yet an email. I actually did
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: work on that this week, and I'm still trying to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: figure out a puzzle. Apparently we have an old Gmail
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: email and neither of us can remember the passwords, so
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: we might be creating a new one. Yeah, but if
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with me, here's what
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: you need to do. Go again a vehicle and you
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: just start driving, and you drive until you get out
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: into like the countryside, where you're gonna be going down
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: a road that is just nondescript, nothing on it. It's
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be pitch black. There's gonna be a stop sign
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna come to, which is weird because there's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: no intersection. There's no reason for a stop signed to
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: be there. But if you look down and to the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: right of the stop side, you will see an old laptop.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: It's not plugged into anything. The screens are. If you
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: get out of your car, walk through that laptop and
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: you whisper into its USB port, I will hear you
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and I will answer you. Jonathan, are you an agent
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: of the matrix? You have to tell us if you're
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: an agent of the matrix. No, I'm I'm fay. Okay, yeah, alright, alright.
• 1:08:37
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• 1:08:41
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• 1:08:44
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• 1:08:47
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• 1:08:51
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• 1:08:53
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• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: if you prefer, you can use an electric vehicle and
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: that will also not use as much as Yes, I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: suppose that is true. My question for you, Jonathan, do
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: you have a laptop in every like country location? Oh no,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: they're going to find themselves on a road that doesn't exist.
• 1:09:17
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