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Cancel Marquee And Buy Yourself Some Thirsty Vaquero · Monday Morning Cubs Show

• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: And we're clear.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_01: Good morning, good afternoon, and evening, Chicago Cubs fans, and welcome back to the Monday Morning Cubs show.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: It is Carl joined by Mahoney Monday, October 13th.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: In the midst of MLB playoffs, we should still be playing, Tim.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's good to see you.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we we should still be playing, but it is good to see you, Carl Diddle.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, at least we're watching some October baseball entirely stress-free, right?
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: Just got the snacks out, no big deal.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever the Brewers look.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: Still stressful watching the Brewers.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: Still stressful watching the Brewers to be straight off.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: Very annoying.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: Very annoying.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I don't dislike the Brewers or Brewers fans.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's just annoying that they're so much better than they're so they they ended up being so much better than the 2026 Cubs.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's a fact.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they ended up being so much better than all the other teams in the National League.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: 104 wins or whatever it was.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that here I was going for a walk, Carl, and I thought to myself, damn, you know what?
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: The Brewers are the class of the NL Central.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I hated saying that to myself.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: They're the class.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Moni, you could have been saying that to yourself for the last six years, it feels like that.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's just a repeat.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it's also concerning that it takes me that long just to admit something that is a uh just absolute truth.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: Here's an absolute truth.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's good to see you.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's good to be back in front of the maniacs.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's a Tuesday.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we supposed to do Monday shows.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's called the Monday Morning Cub Show.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: Did I say Monday, October 13th in the intro?
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's just I have Stockholm syndrome with myself.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: Creature of habit.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's Tuesday, guys.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody get their shit together.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's Tuesday.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's Tuesday morning, October 13th.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: It is a beautiful 75 degrees, at least here in the northwest suburbs.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: I hope the weather is just as nice in your neck of the woods, folks.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: And let's just have a nice week.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck all the bullshit.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, tell me about it.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me about how nice the weather is.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: I thought I saw 72 crisp, not too much humidity.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, this is a per I'm I'm gonna be selfish and just say it would be a perfect situation for a little Cubs baseball.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: But oh man, if you really think about how nice it would be actually to venture out to Wrigley for a game on like a Tuesday at four o'clock National League Championship game.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, by the way, major league baseball Rob Manfred should be in what jail on with some of this jail, dude.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: 4 p.m.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: on Monday, 4 p.m.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: on Monday.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: If you're a kid, you're a Dodgers fan, you're in Los Angeles, you're you're in school recess.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Jacob Mizarowski Logan Anderson's into the third inning.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Rob Manfred should be fucking executed, Mahoney.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: No joke, Carl.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm flipping through the channels, you know.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm on the YouTube TV, actually kind of flipping through live, and I see that the game was on, and I click it.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I knew it was afternoon-ish, but I was thinking 5 p.m.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I look and they're in the third or fourth inning, and I missed like five different scores.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, what are they doing here?
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it just boggles my mind.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: A West Coast team, the Dodgers of all teams getting screwed on that one.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: Or is it the Brewers get screwed?
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because everybody's getting screwed here, Mahoney.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm holding the bag, you're holding the bag.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's a bunch of BS and Mallarkey.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: Here's some stuff, here's some, here's what's not BS and Mallarkey, and that's Thirsty Bacero.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Now we get into the off-season part of the this uh show, guys.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta I really have to stress the importance of partnering with Thirsty McCarrow so we continue to do the Monday Morning Cup show.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: We don't have lineup previews, that's a big part of the ad package.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I need the rally the maniacs now as we get into hibernation mode.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Go to Amazon and get yourself some Thirsty McCarrow.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Mahoney, can you please appeal to the sentiment that I'm trying to touch on here?
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I can only appeal to the fact that you got the thirstiest bunch of vigilantes in the world wrapped all in one vigilante pack that you can get on Amazon.com.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_00: It is an all-bite, no rattle, your signature spicy soda with an absolute bold finish.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: I might have butchered the actual verbiage, but I think you guys get the gist.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: Thirsty Vicero is it.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: Three bold flavors, your Lamon Ladrone, Mango Muerte, Sandea Salvaje, and it's just a thirsty bunch of vigilantes that you can get your taste buds on.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, go to Amazon.com and get yourself some thirsty vaquero.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: You'd only be doing the Monday morning cub show a favor, you're going to be doing yourself and your taste buds a favor.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: And your household and your old lady's taste buds, you know.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: Give her something to be proud about going to the holiday season.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: A bold blend of sparkling water, real lime juice finished with savory chili spice and salt, sweetened with 100% real agave.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's a thirsty vaquero Lamon Ladrone label money.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of the labels, Carl, what is a better time of year than Halloween to be handing out some cans of thirsty Vaquero?
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: Get those, get those, uh, get those knapsacks filled up a little bit more.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to be a little bit heavier than the kids.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: Some parents are going to reach in, feel a can, be like, what the hell is this thing?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: Nope, it's not alcoholic.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's perfectly fine.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: We're not breaking or bending any rules here at all.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: Go into the basement, get the good burlap, baby, because we are going to be lugging some vaqueros around.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, do we do I dress as a vigilante for Halloween this year, Mahoney?
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: Should I go as a skull-faced?
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: That is the best idea.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: Best idea I've heard.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: I know the Mahoney household's gonna be busy with trick-or-treaters, and I might just have to steal that idea.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: Throw on that cowboy hat with a black, you know, black skeleton face.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: The fucking vigilante is at the door.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, heavens.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: So uh we're back here, guys.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure you check out there.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: If you aren't, if you refuse to at least say, I have the numbers.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: I know who listens to this show.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't go to Thirstyfacero and order it, I will hunt you down and I'll fucking kill you.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_01: The date is getting there, folks.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's getting there.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna kill.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's a it's a you it's a euphemism.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: Get yourself.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: There's some muerte.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: There's muerte, it's mango muerte, they're thieves, they're they're stealing taste buds and bending bending rules.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Holiday season here coming up.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, so I want to talk a couple things.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, with you mode, I'm gonna pitch clock you, I'm gonna baller strike, I'm gonna move you around.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, the purpose of today's show is I think you and I agree, baller strike quickly.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like baller strike, we've moved on from the fact that Cub season's over, even though I kind of bitched in the opener.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like, baller strike, it's over.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like we move, we've moved on.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: Strike.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: I moved over after I listened to last week's episode, break a doubt, Jets press conference.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: I I I am on.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: On with my life.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: That infuriates me.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: Strike.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so we moved on.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_01: We moved on.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about this little high level here stuff.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because there is MOB, like playoffs are on.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: Would you are you benching Otani?
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: Have you heard this talk?
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: People are saying now the one qualifier before we go down this path is I've heard he has an injury to his allegedly throwing arm and his landing knee.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: So left knee, right shoulder, or something.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: So he's allegedly heard that's part of the leading to the decline of performance, but even so, is it I thought it was AI when I saw the tweet that the uh Dodgers were considering sitting him in game three.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: Does that just blow your tits clean off your chest?
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: I came across the headlines this morning, you know, as I was drinking my coffee, flipping through the newspaper, and it was very eye-opening to even see that sentence, Otani being benched.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: And the only thing that I think makes sense is what you had alluded to.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: There's more going on, it's an injury.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: I can never see them benching Otani just based off of a couple, you know, bad games and a bad performance.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's obviously not himself, and the only thing that we could ever even take into consideration is that he's probably hurt, and they need to rest him if they're going to be competitive in the World Series.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what about the fact that I I mean it seems like Brewers up 2-0 with their pitching staff, knowing how good they are, that one's all but done.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: That that's all but done.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: Brewers in the World Series.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: It looks like that to me, yeah.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: Strike.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: I like a shitty World Series.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I know people like to complain about shitty World Series, but like if it's not Yankees Dodgers, and my Cubs aren't in it, obviously.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like if it's if it's obviously not the Cubs, and then if it's obviously not the biggest names.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm totally fine with a shitty Brewer Cleveland Guardians.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's dude, it's gonna be even if it's the Rays or the Guardians, that's not gonna get all the ratings in the world.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: That might be one of the lower-rated you know, World Series in some time heading into a lockout year.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: Not the best script that I think Major League Baseball wants to play at, but not my problem.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it is though.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: There's let's let's work in conspiracy theory in here.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: Rob Manfred wants it to be Brewers guardians this year.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: He wants so that they can negotiate what that's the that revenue's down.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna say revenue's down.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Look, viewers.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: The advertising dollar, no one's even yeah, they're not even advertising.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: Chuck the balls, Mahoney.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: I want a full investigation into Rob Manfred right now, scumbags.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: Even though I like Rob Manfred, this is gonna be this this show is gonna feature me turning a little bit here.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Great other side of the pencil there, Carl.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: Great other side of the pencil.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: So if we do, if we do, do you have a fit?
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have a team of the four left that you would like to see win?
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: Or or should I say a team you're cheering for?
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I it I like the rays just because of the way that they're playing baseball, but now at the point, I kind of want Cleveland to win it all.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: I want Cleveland 1940-something was the last they won the World Series.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we've dealt them a dagger as from a fan perspective.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: They, you know, take out the White Sox and an own two comeback.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: Cozy Ramirez golfs won out.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just that's the team that I want to win.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think you hit on it.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's 10 years since we won.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: We ripped their hearts out.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: They they just Cleveland deserves something, right?
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: They deserve something.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they do.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they they took game one, scoring five, whatever, and they like seventh.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: It looked like that game was done.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: Another Tampa Bay just doesn't let you score straight defense, and another, another, another comeback.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, they think they deserve it.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: They'll never win a Super Bowl.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Cleveland will never win a Super Bowl.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_01: In the champion basketball, it'll be 50 years.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: This is now for Cleveland, and people like Cleveland.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: People say good things about Cleveland.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: I've never been.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Gotta get to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame choice.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Some people they call it the mistake on the lake, and I've heard that that is a far, far cry from reality.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: I know people that a lot of John Carroll guys, you know, in the Cleveland area, are obsessed with it.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: They were talking about building that high-speed rail from Chicago to Cleveland, and I was I was hearing people talking about buying houses out there if they were going to be able to commute back to Chicago in under an hour.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I've heard great things, never been, want to go, love to check out the Hall of Fame.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: They got that great venue right on the river there, too.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's an amphitheater of some kind.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: So a lot going on in Cleveland.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't mind the Guardians winning it all.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: And uh Cleveland Rocks, right?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how about it?
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good one, Mahoney.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: Way to sneak that one in there.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I like Jose Ramirez quite a bit.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: I enjoy watching him play baseball.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: He had a great moment postseason.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: He's a Hall of Famer in real time, 34 years old, 60 wins bud replacement.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: He'll probably finish his his career somewhere in the inner around 80.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if you look historically, he's between four and six every year.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: He's 34 years old.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: He's probably gonna play another five years, you know, and he's an elite, he's just still continues to do it at a at an elite level.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Love that guy.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so out of out of playoffs, you brought this up.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: You you said that we are going into a lockout season.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's a baller strike.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: I have it as a strike right now, Carl.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: I do too.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't until it I was I had faith in Major League Baseball that they would get the sense that you know, like not now, not now for Sailor Cap because we have so much momentum in baseball, and we need to we need some like wind at our back.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like let's revisit the shit down the road.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: We don't need to be doing this right now, was kind of my attitude.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe there's a sliver of hope here we don't, and then it gets released that Rob Manfred or Major League Baseball, etc., sends a memorandum to the teams on how to interact with their players and the office.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Who can go to weddings, just trash, dude?
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: Trash.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Season's over, everyone's wiped from the websites and history as if they don't exist.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's I know this is what they I know they've done something similar in the past, but when you really read it and it is it's garbage, it's absolute garbage, like you're dealing with human beings here, and then it's some weird psychological ploy to act as if the the brand is bigger than the sum of its parts, the players who are actually playing the game.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's wild, Carl.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's wild.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're they're so shitty, you know.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: These owners in Major League Baseball.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: Now, people are gonna be inclined.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Once this lockout starts, people are gonna be inclined to complain to the players.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: You're already millionaires.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: Shut up.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's the narrative the MLB wants you to say and get you on their side.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: Can you believe these players?
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: These players are here.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you, I was in Nashville yesterday with Leonard Fournette.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: He leaves.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're uh then I go to this bar to have you know some dinner with my buddies, and fucking Golden Tate is sitting at the bar alone watching Monday Night Football in NLC house.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: Remember Golden Tate?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: Remember him from all right, he's literally sitting at the bar alone, Jack and Cokes.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: He was there the time we got there, and he was there when we left, and I was there for two hours, and he didn't he did not move a muscle.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: He was posted up at this bar.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Now, the reason I'm bringing this up is it was sad.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not calling Golden Tate out.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: I I like sitting at a bar and I like having cocktails alone.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have 75 million dollars in career earnings or 55 million dollars in career earnings.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: But we as fans have this narrative in our heads, right?
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: That like these guys are super successful, he's just balling out, blah blah blah.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: What if I told you he was just sitting at a Texas roadhouse, just chilling?
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: Here's a guy that everybody that I would imagine many people know for this day at Notre Dame.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a guy who had tremendous success uh in the NFL, signed three contracts, had you know fifth fifty to sixty million dollars of gurgen, is just sitting at the bar.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not bringing this up to shit on Golden Tate as much, so I'm just drawing an impact to say these guys are so much closer to us, so much closer to us.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: You and me sitting here talking bullshitting around.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: There's sitting at the bar having a drink, just leave me the fuck alone once the spotlight dims than the owners are to the players.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: The owners are billionaires, the owners are on yachts, the owners are so much bigger and richer and in a completely different circle.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: The players are like just they're regular guys, and when we go to this lockout, I know so many people are gonna be bitching at these players, thinking that they're like invincible and that they're these superheroes, and like you know, your life is made and all this shit.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like a lot of these guys are making you know, this is like the only job that's gonna pay them ever.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right, they'll never have a job for for the next 45 years, they won't have a job.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: A large percentage pay them, right?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: And a large percentage of those guys aren't getting paid superstar.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, a majority percentage aren't getting paid superstar money, and even the superstars, the disparity between those individuals and the billionaire owners is massive.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: So, what Carl is saying is like, yeah, it's us versus them.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: We have we're on the player side, they're closer to what I'm making than what way close any of the owners are making, and they're way closer in in lifestyle and culture and in attitude and taste, and and just it's way more real for me to be like, yeah, dude, I'm like a I'm much more like a minimum league, you know.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: And think about the guys in AAA that haven't been called up yet.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Think about all the think about all the players.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason you give a shit about this game is because the players, you don't give a shit about this game because Tom Rickett sells hot dogs for$18.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: You don't give a shit about this game because you know they renovated the bathrooms, whatever it is, they put in a new Rolex watch or they got the D you guys see the did you guys see the new 2016 stadium?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like because Pete Crow Armstrong's in center field, motherfuckers.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: How about that?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: How about that?
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm with Pete.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: I will be on Pete's side.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: I will be on I will be on the side of the guys that wear the uniform and not the people cutting the checks, manipulating my emotions.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: You can get on your knees and blow me.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: And not you, Moni.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: What's worse is they're manipulating their their time.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: But time is the most valuable thing to a professional athlete's career.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: And now you're gonna tell me that they might have to take a year off.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: You know, a kid who's gonna get a chance, maybe, you know, theoretically, whatever, in 2026, 27.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: And now that kid, he might not, he might have to go back on the farm.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: He might not ever get another chance, Maloney.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's it, you know, that that pie in the sky chance that he he was gonna get if in a different universe, whatever it may be.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think you guys know what I'm saying.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it it really does just blow, and you know, you're trying to enjoy the rest of the postseason with this in mind, and it it it makes it a little bit more difficult, you know.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: So is we gonna be a lot of moves?
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna make a lot of moves before the lockouts are gonna be a windfall, or are we just gonna be in radio silence?
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be like this.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're gonna be sitting around and I'm gonna tell you hey, did you hear about this?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, I mean it's it's just gonna be speculation and a little bit of phlegm.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like we just got some good phlegm.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, excuse me.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: No, don't be sorry.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so but that that's important that we talk about lockout mentality.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: I want maniacs in lockstep with us.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: I I have the idea that we're we're it's like we're raising, we're like fundamentalist lunatics.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we're like religious, we're like the monks or whatever we are.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: We're just like the just we're out there, we're so out there.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: But I need us in lockstep on this.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: That when this lockout conversation happens, it's us first step, and that the owners are scumbags, and that they they don't need the money nearly as bad as they're gonna make it seem like if the league's exploding at an exponential rate and they're gonna try and pit us against each other.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, when we get to that point, I'm I will be lighting torches.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: I will be I will be storming villages.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Which what's the scene in Lord of the Rings?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: When they come down from the highlands, they start torturing all the villages, and the poor kids are running, the moms get murdered, and the I'm the guy killing the mom.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the guy with the archer.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the archer, I'm the arsonist, I'm the whole thing.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the worst thing coming when this lockout happens.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: And if not, you better be a part of the maniac militia behind our fence, not let any one of those cocksuckers in.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Did you did you just did you just whip or snap that one?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: Did you just fill in the blank ad lib that did you just I've never heard you say what did you just say?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: The maniac militia, yeah.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: What is wrong with you?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: I've just you got me thinking of all these perfect no that's sects in the mountains.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: I've been watching that uh murder mountain where it's like in the the Emerald Triangle, all these people they just have their own law, you know, they're they escort the police through town.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you you like the sound of that, you want to live you're alone in a metaphorical sense, yeah.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: In metaphorical sense.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: Where were we?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: We were talking about the Cubs in a lockout and potential moves.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: How are we gonna guide this thing?
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: There's no convention this year, no shot there's a convention.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: You and I should throw a convention.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: They put some bullshit out there at first.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: There wasn't even gonna be one, and now the next one is like you can make your travel plans if the convention happens, and it's all a bunch of nonsense.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's refundable, but you're telling me that those one and a half percent charges that are being processed aren't going straight up to TD Mayor trade?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, absolutely not.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, yeah, no convention.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: No convention, no autos, you know, no pins, no shulas.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: God, is Shula still going strong there?
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: Is that franchise still there?
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: Now what do I mean when I say Shula's mount?
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: We sat down at a Cubs convention and we got made it about as far as the lobby, you know, shook some hands, waved to some players, and then we just posted up at Shula's for about eleven, twelve hours for the rest of the day and had a grand old time.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's the hotel bar at yeah, the Sheridan, I think it is.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: I've had a lot of nights and days at Chula's because that Sheridan hosts a lot of conventions before work, you know, before content or whatever, when I was in corporate America.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: I was at that shared in a lot.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I think I remember going to the convention, and I was overwhelmed with how many people are there in Cubs jerseys looking for autos.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Just walking around with merch and shit looking for autos.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was I didn't know it was very intense.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: You were a little overwhelmed.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: I was just saying, you need to loosen up a little bit.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: This is too much.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then we just posted up at Shula's.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: And this wasn't like I'm going in there and doing lineup reviews and raising hell or anything.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was walking around being like, I don't know if I can do this, my homie.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to Shula's.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: I will say too, was at a time where you were getting you were being approached quite often by fans of this, that, and the other.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: And it was a bit overwhelming.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, let's just step in here for an hour, and then you know, it's like me, you two with your brother, and we just had a great day.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: Those were that was a good that was snowstorm.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think it started snowstorming.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, pre-COVID.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, pre-COVID.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: Pre-COVID.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: Pre-COVID.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Pre-COVID.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's about seven, eight years ago.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: How about it?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: So no convention this year because we're going in the lockout.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: Now, here's an interesting thing to keep your eye on.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: We ch we traded uh we traded Brett Bateman for Kevin Gossman.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Brett Bateman uh then posted two wins above replacement in the final two months with the Blue Jays, which means Brett Bateman uh conceivably is the perfect guy to replace Ian Happ.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: And we traded him for Kevin Gossman, and then we, you know, shit our pants in the playoffs.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: So now the other guy is Kane Keply, who's who is probably a year away from Major League Baseball.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: But these are the two, these are two, obviously, the one guy's out, is not even in the Cubs organization, but it's a bitter taste in my mouth, as we know Ian Happ's time is probably done.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: We probably are bringing Suzuki back.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: So even if I said Mahoney, pick one or the other, I think that would be a stupid exercise because I think a 50% chance is neither come back.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, strike.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: I had that as well.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was like baller strike, Ian Hap played his last game as a cub.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: I have that as strike, and I can't imagine them re-signing Zaya.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: So we're lockstep.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely lockstep.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and Keply is he like you said, he's probably a year away.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he looks good, but we don't know if he I have no idea if he's even ready or close or whatever.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: And the major here's an interesting thing, too, that like Bateman was very good in those 40 games.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I don't know if Bateman's a great player, it's just he was sensational in his first taste.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: So that stings that stings a little bit.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: The interesting thing is minor league baseball changed the balls uh double A and below last year, and so home runs were up, I believe, 60 to 65 percent.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: Slugging percentage was as high as it's ever been in the minor leagues.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: So, guys, posting career years, you're seeing prospects shoot up.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: You're seeing guys like big time, yes, big time.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's because they changed the ball double A and below.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: So that even like Jeffson Rojas or whoever correct it was like, oh wow, dude, we traded that dude and like 40 home runs or whatever it was.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: So so he's not the only one because I was a little getting wide-eyed on a lot of those statistics.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think what the bigger point I'm trying to drive is that there it's hard to apply double A below into my uh triple A major league.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: So what you just have to do is look, it's like wait till you get to the big one.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like you can be it's all relative in the minor league, so you're just looking for the guys who are obviously the top performers.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: So it doesn't matter.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, it's not like hitting 300 is a good or bad thing, it's relative to obviously those you're competing against.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: What I'm trying to say here, this is getting long-winded, it's it's very difficult, Ergo, for me to say, like a guy in double-A like Jefferson Rojas is gonna hit for that kind of power in the major leagues.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know how you can draw that connection.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't watch the guy, I don't coach the guy, scout the guy, see the guy play every day.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: So if I'm just looking at numbers and applying it to the major leagues, saying at this stage, if they're changing balls and we're looking at guys uh to fill left field and right field, you know, yeah, try me, but they're not in triple A right now, Mahoney.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're not in triple A, and I don't know where they're gonna be, and we're not gonna sign them because we're going into a lockout.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like we gave up Bateman for Gossman.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: Now is Bateman one of these guys, and we're gonna shoot ourselves in the foot.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Now are we relying on Keply?
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: And are we even gonna have a minor league season if there's no major league season?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because I don't even know how that works.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: My mind is blown.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: If I had I something tells me that they could and and do, but no, I don't know.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Let's bring it back to the professional squad, and this is the other thing, it's all the speculation about a year that might not even happen, but I have ball or strike Pedro Ramirez or Matt Shaw starting more corner outfield games than it I had in a Seiya Suzuki, and we kind of already addressed the fact that it's not so.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think I think you could end up seeing Matt Shaw and Pedro Ramirez in the corners next year to start the season.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even think if that's crazy because we're not gonna sign anybody, I don't think.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why I think Hoyard like floated the idea of having them out there, which tells me that they're not gonna sign Saya and they're not gonna go after anybody else.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think we can.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think Tom, I just I go back to how much the Cubs finance their shit through game day operations, and it's like the threat of this lockout just tells me that Crane Kenny's going into Tom, they're having the business means about how much money to spend.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: Shut it down, shut that bitch down, baby.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Jed Hoyer's like Jed Hoyer's prepared for all of this, that's why he wrote all these contracts so that he doesn't have to face all the scrutiny.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: He's just like, oh, contract's expired, you know, we didn't have any money.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, he knows the game Tom's gonna play against him.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: So now Jed's are the the internal chess moves we make against each other instead of just building a good baseball team kills me.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: But this is where we're at, honey.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Jed has done this in a way so that we're all gonna bitch at Tom.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: Not a bad situation.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, I mean yeah, it's crazy.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the yeah, the politicking that goes on even with actual business, I mean with business decisions.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: Disney is ethics.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, like Crane, Crane Kenny is he's a he's a bad he's like a bad he's a super he's a super villain.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: He's a he's a he he's the green goblin, you know, he's like a handsome coffee guy in a quarter zip that like closes the door and is a monster, you know, some of those like that guy's sociopathic in a way, you know, has no problem cutting half the staff.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: Or you know, he's seeing people, he's not even looking at names, he sees numbers, and that's it.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: He's one of those guys that can make decisions and have zero impact on his emotional self, regardless of how it impacts the collective whole or people being affected.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: He's a real it puts the lotion on the skin or it gets hose again, type of yeah, like in a certain way, in a way like the the serialness to it or the savagery, so to say, is how I would explain.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: Crane Kenny to an outsider, and he's gonna be making a budget right now, Tom Ricketts, and a big consideration of that budget is gonna be how much money do we forecast to make next year, and there's not gonna be any games, so you're gonna be down on marquee subscriptions because instead of having guaranteed TV revenue, you know, you're going out and getting it yourself.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now people are gonna be canceling that bullshit because there's not gonna be baseball, and you're gonna have a hard time recovering that base, you know, and people are just gonna be working around through the VPN.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you gotta reminder, by the way.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, I gotta cancel my marquee.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: Forgot.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, but hey, if anybody I promise me this, if anybody listens, just remember to cancel their marquee.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: Take this month's savings, go to Amazon and get yourself some thirst of Vaciro.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: There's a huge win.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't even know.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: You did you just got you basically just got a free case of Vacero.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: So shoot these scores, strike, bang bang.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh all right, what else we got, Mahoney?
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just thinking about ball or strike, it was so cubs.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that like Clay Holmes never threw a single postseason pitch.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was just talking about Jefferson, what's his ass?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's like, what do we trade him for?
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Clay Holmes had nothing to do with the Cubs this uh postseason.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: But we already said off the top, ball or strike, we're not mad.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: So don't why do you want to get me mad now about Clay Holmes not pitching?
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's like Clay Holmes is gonna turn down, you know, he's he's got a player option, I think, for sit 15 or 16 million or 13 million or something.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: He's gone.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: He's out.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: A lot, yeah.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: He's done.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: I have I used I had Cubs fans would rather see Cleveland win than Milwaukee.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of obvious ones here, but one of them is the Brewers are gonna win their first pennant this week.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's a strike two.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's a classic league.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: What are you jumping all over the place here?
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta just throw them BP lollipops here.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: What are these?
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, these are these are cock high.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: Do you want me to just destroy these pitches and send them out?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: This is so stupid.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: This is like Mohony's like, now that I'm looking through this document I prepared.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's usually what happens when I start reading through them.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, nope, the context here is gone.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we lost this one.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get it back up a trail here real quick.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so then who do you Will Venable or Frank?
• 31:41
  unknown: Sorry.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Have you talked to your dad about the White Sox?
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh yeah, I saw him the next day, disappointed.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, he just they struck out 21 times.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: What can you do?
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: He just thinks that, you know, a lot of those guys need to work on their approach at the plate.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's classic.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: Classic.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, opinion about the stadium.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel bad for my my my dad was in Hilton Hut, so I haven't I haven't I haven't had a chance.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: I was trying to I was considering going to one of the two home games with him.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but but he was out now.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: Now that's a ter that's a terrible collapse from the White Sox because 40 40 combined strikeouts in two games is enough to make me never watch the sporting.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: 21 strikeouts in the last game is enough.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Eight balls in play?
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: You can't do that.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: So that's awful.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: It could be worse though.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like you could just get your dick kicked in by the Padres, which then circles back to the original point of why am I doing this?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm just gonna get mad about it.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, very true.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: The I mean, because how can you help yourself talking about another Chicago baseball team without going back to our greatest failures a week before?
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have any okay?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: Is would you fire how about this?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like I have a list of notes.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: Would you fire Craig?
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: Does Craig Council deserve to be our manager?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Ball that wasn't a ball or strike.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm out on Craig.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think he's gonna get fired very soon, but I got I mean, his leash should be a half a season if that.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: I I just gave everything away.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: This team looked awful.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: I understand he had to manage the pitching staff and what have you, but we were seven games up on a wild card, you know, a month before, and that's it, that's just it, dude.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: Everything just we didn't look prepared, nothing looked right.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: So how can you not look at a manager who hasn't won a division since he got here and he's the highest paid guy, you know, of his peers?
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: And having 250 million dollars in this year, too, like this.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: I hate the excuse train that just runs around Wrigley Field.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: So that really pisses me off because I know they're gonna hit play the hits all offseason long.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: Injuries, pitching, you know, what are the chances?
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: Justin Steele, Ben Brown, and Kate Horton.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, what are the chances you guys would have nothing after that?
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: What are the chances that Jamison Tanz not good?
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: What are the chances are you completely botched the show to Imanaga's you know contract situation?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: What are the chances Colin Ray is gonna be our most successful pitcher over like a three-year window?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: Crazy, dude.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Play the hits and yeah, play the hits.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly what they're gonna do.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone's gonna talk about the injuries and the pitching, but remember this hottest offensive team in baseball completely shit the bed the last eight games of the year.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was they scored 16 runs in a week.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's a pizza smack game, basically, over a week and a half.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is that our first pizza smack of the year?
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Is that our first pizza smack of the season?
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: Is that our first pizza smack?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's not.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: There was one more earlier, but that was when we that was within one game, not a week and a half of runs being scored.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: I need more pizza smacks.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: What's the quick what was the pizza smack?
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: There was a pizza smack game where we broke the franchise record.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think they hit nine or ten home runs.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: But you gotta tell pizza I'm saying what is a pizza smack.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: A pizza smack is when the balls are flying off of Cubs bats into the stadium, and because of so the crowd is so raucous and and crazy where you're smacking pizzas out of your neighbor's hands accidentally.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: It happened on the tarmac.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm losing by when he's pulling my hair out.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's not the tarmac, it's the concourse.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, tarmac is where the airplanes park.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: I know what I was doing there.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: What my buddy Digger Phelps smacked a pizza out of this kid's hand as he was celebrating a couch warber home run.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: The dad just kept walking with the kid like nothing happened.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: The kid was like, Dad, my pizza! He's like, Let's go, we're missing the game, and was like, don't worry about it.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't even look at us.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how Pizza Smack was born.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: And and any you know, hot large home run game is a pizza smack game.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's in fact not a cracker jack.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's lore.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's maniac lore.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: Pizza smack is I for I forget the context of how that first story how that story was told, but that's part of our lore of doing the show is pizza smacks, and now I'm thinking we haven't had a pizza smack conversation in a long time.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: Could use a pizza smack.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Could use a lot of pizza smacks the past month.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, how about it?
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't get any.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, zero.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: Pizza smack with a Thirst of Vicero, which you guys can get on Amazon, three bold flavors shipped to your front door.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Mahoney, what else you got?
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just looking at the I we're not doing a season in review or anything of that nature.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, the fact that we're watching the playoffs with the the Brewers likely going to the World Series.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um it stings a little bit more just seeing them just a wild-old machine, but it also is very obvious that uh our team collectively top to bottom wasn't ready and doesn't look like they would have competed uh much at all if we had some sort of magic uh in San Diego.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, our pitching is so far behind.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_01: Our pitching's so far behind.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's just ugly.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have anybody who has actual job titles.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: All right, other bullpens do.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: We had something like 15 Cubs got to save throughout the season.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: We got the Rays know exactly who's gonna be saving their games, okay?
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know that the Brewers got guys with titles that are gonna come in, be shut down, shut down.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: They got what fucking Michael King no hit the Cubs, and he comes in and still gets like a four-out thing.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: We had nobody like that at all.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I honestly watching this postseason beyond uh us our exit has shown me that it's just we weren't ready and and we are we do not have the makeup of the teams that were and still competing.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's probably my favorite insight.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's probably my favorite insight you've shared in a long time, Ryan Molly.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with you tenfold.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: The the difference when I'm watching the Rays Guardians game, I'm like, there we would not or yeah, it's like we would we'd be lucky to get three hits against either pitching staff with the way our lineup took the field in the playoffs.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because we were great, whatever.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: We were great in June, we're good in July, whatever.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_01: We have stretches of good, we had stretches of good baseball, but the team at the end of the season was was just limp, was just limp.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: Limp.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll after World Series, we'll do a round table.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: We'll get like uh C E me C B Tui, we'll do like full player grades, yeah.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: Full collective.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: We can break down the season.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: I I am just not ready for that yet today, you know, given that the league is still in play.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not ready for that.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not ready for that at all.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: I still need I need time to think.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: Then there's gonna be more shit's gonna come out in the next couple weeks.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: We'll have more stuff to react to.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm not ready to put a whole like you know, season.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what did you say?
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: Season and review, season reflection.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, recap, whatever I said.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's like we can do it easily too.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's like pitching fuck pitching stunk, lineup and consistent, cred council spineless and overpaid, brewers ran it down our throats.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: And we haven't even mentioned PCA, you know.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: We get it.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: He was the MVP.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to look back yet at the magic like that, like, oh man, I'll never forget 2026, the year PCA.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: I will someday, but it's just today is not that day.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'll easily forget about it.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: That could be it could be the most I know because it's like one of the great seasons in Cub history, and this how bad the pitching staff and everything else around it was so because without Pete, it's like an 82-win team.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it without Pete, they're like maybe 500.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: So, but we're not gonna think about this season as like man, Pete carried us because we didn't go anywhere.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: We we it's it.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be more like remember when Pete won the MVP and had like 10 walls that we went to San Diego and got the doors blown off, doors blown off, or it could be it it's a pivotal moment because I think it goes one of two ways in the future for the Guts.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: We either build around PCA, we have success, and we look at this as like he broke out, you know, or we look at it as that's tragic, we never did anything with someone that good.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's one of those two things.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: But of the idea that like Pete, this was an anomaly, Pete's actually not that.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think Pete's very good.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think Pete will be in the top 10 MVP conversation for as long as he's healthy in playing Major League Baseball.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I I don't think that like I I I definitely don't think if if we fail to win behind Pete, it's not gonna be because Pete fails.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Does that make sense?
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna be because Pete's like not as good as he was this year.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like I think it's I think Pete makes total sense to me.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of walked around that one.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the future of our of our success as a franchise isn't going to predicate just on Pete, it's gonna be the pieces around him, yes, because he's so good.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's like it's like when you look back at like when Sandberg was here and when Sosa was here.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: When you look at it back at like the two, we know we players is like you know you're getting the premium stuff here, my friend.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, the challenge is can you support that?
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Can you can you win with that?
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, so we get some time in the meantime, guys.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: Subscribe to the show, leave a review, you know, go get some thirsty big hero.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: This is a Tuesday Monday morning cup show, which I'm I enjoy a lot of Monday mornings.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you're coming off a long weekend, uh, you know, we're flipping through box scores.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_01: So, like the Tuesday morning felt good.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: This was nice.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: This was uh this was a little bit more, you know, or maybe it's just because I traveled yesterday.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: The weather's nice, it feels good, temperatures consistent in the garage, crisp, crispy.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, one nerdy thing left.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: I because I told you this in the green screen room, but this is kind of sick.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_01: So, because I'm doing some work in cards and trading cards and stuff, and working with sports card nonsense and helping Geo and Lenny Fournette and all this shit.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: I have to get I have to learn the card space, and so I've been collecting Kate Horton, I've been buying a bunch of Kate Horton and like Kate Horton this and that.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: But like the interesting thing is then like once you start learning about the cards, then there's other stuff I'm interested in.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I like baseball, I love baseball, I love the Grateful Dead, I love Star Wars.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: There's stuff I like really love, I'd be interested in collecting.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so, anyways, it's just my long-winded way of saying, like, I learned as I'm going through this, it's like, oh, they have the Star Wars cars, I like Star Wars.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: I bought I bought a pack of Star Wars cars yesterday, and in it was a one-of-one Kylo Wren sketch card, uh, which comes in like one of every 72 packs or something.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, what's the percentage odds of that?
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like 1.3%.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's your land.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's like 1.3%.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's something like that, 1.27.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, chance of hitting that.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that's sick, Mahoney.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: I just wanted to tell you.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: I pulled a one-on-one Kylo Wren.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a Star Wars guy.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: I care.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was very cool.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's not just like an artist's copy or print rendition on the card, it's the pencil to paper on the card of the actual artist who drew Kylo Wren.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Monday morning card show.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I that's so dumb.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: We both laughed.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's that was bad.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, it was okay, but I have been listening I have the I have Kate Horton.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: If you're if you're selling Kate Horton, I'm buying Kate Horton.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: All right, if you're selling Kate Warren, especially if you got a PSA slab around that baby, you know.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_01: Now I there's some stuff I'm priced out of, but you come knocking, I will, I will, I will be buying.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I gotta get you some cards, Mahori.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: We've had we've had a cards I'm gonna get, I've got you some junk wax soap, man, so you get comfortable handling this, babies.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: My problem is, you know, I look, I got a big book behind me, but it's all like the Don Russ, all the you know, mass prints from right around the time when everyone was collecting cards, and I'm looking up, trying to see some value.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: It looks cool, great artwork, and it's like a penny.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's why it's called junk.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's junk.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: I have a bunch of Don Russ.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: My father-in-law gave it.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: Don't ever throw these out, Ma.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: She could have.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: No, but then I go through the box, I'm like ripping it.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm like stacked.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, sick, dude.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: A Bo Jackson, like sick, Bo Jackson.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: I pull like seven Bo Jacksons on this box.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking, like, oh my god, I'm gonna go print these.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's like these things are worth a dollar fifty each.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: I had a Shaq, a Shaq rookie card, the upper deck one number one with him elevating to the rim.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: Thought, because once the card boon happened, I like look three years ago, I'm like, hell yes, I've been saving this baby forever, and it's gonna get me some sweet coin.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like 30 bucks tops, but it has to be graded.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, mine's not graded.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: So that's and the grading fees are expensive, dude.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: It PSA will cost more than they'll cost 60 bucks.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I might send this Kyle O'Reilly in a PC PSA, you know.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, I might.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: And if you guys have a few guys have yeah, good poll.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_01: If you guys have Korea, not buying Kore.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so this is the Monday morning cup show.
• 45:33
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• 45:35
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• 45:36
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• 45:39
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• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: We'll do some interviews in this offseason, stick around.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: But I think we are going back to where we're just once a week, and it will probably be in the off season Mondays or Tuesdays.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: We probably are gonna be a little bit more convenient with when it comes out, I believe.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be a nice surprise.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it'll be a nice surprise, you know, on your feed of when that's gonna take place.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it'll be Monday or Tuesday, is what I'm saying, because you know it doesn't happen Monday, it happens Tuesday.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's like sometimes it's like, you know, one dog's looking one way, this dog's looking the other way.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the left hand washes the right, the right hand watches the left.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_01: They both watch the that's a jim graziano say, I love that guy.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: Go to jpgraziano.com taste real Chicago.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'll do all the ad reads.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: He's got all these things.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, here's a good saying for you guys.
• 46:27
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• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: Until next time, homie.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: Take care.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: Go comes.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: Go comms, that's right.