Latest / Financial Survival Network / Post-Election Market Trends, Gold, Bitcoin, and the Dollar - Eric Hadik #6197
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The cycles that I was following in that MidCap four hundred,
- 0:04Speaker 1: we're telling me to look for a final high, to
- 0:08Speaker 1: wait until late November, ideally right around November twenty second,
- 0:14Speaker 1: twenty fifth, and even had a multi month upside range
- 0:19Speaker 1: target as what I call it, around thirty four hundred.
- 0:23Speaker 2: So both of those.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Things were angling a little in favor of the results
- 0:28Speaker 1: that we saw on the election, and they both followed
- 0:32Speaker 1: through on that analysis and on those cycles.
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- 1:03Speaker 4: And welcome. You are listening to the Financial Survival Network.
- 1:08Speaker 4: I'm your host, Carrie Lets. And well, we got Ericattick
- 1:12Speaker 4: with us today and you find him inside assid track
- 1:19Speaker 4: Trading dot com. And we're going to do a little
- 1:22Speaker 4: post election follow up see what the markets, what impact
- 1:27Speaker 4: the election results are going to have on the market,
- 1:30Speaker 4: or maybe they've already been reflected, and trends that you
- 1:35Speaker 4: need to pay attention to that will be emerging in
- 1:37Speaker 4: the coming months. Eric, It's great to have you back.
- 1:40Speaker 4: So elections come and go, the market always remains the market,
- 1:46Speaker 4: but there's definitely influences from elections, right.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Yes, excuse me, sorry, Kerry, Yes, thanks for having me back.
- 1:56Speaker 2: And certainly the markets have.
- 1:58Speaker 1: A either influence or correlation to things like elections and
- 2:06Speaker 1: other fundamental events, often casting their shadows before or casting
- 2:13Speaker 1: their shadows ahead before an event like that. And that
- 2:18Speaker 1: was a couple couple markets that I had been discussing
- 2:23Speaker 1: and writing about that, while not certainly not a clear indication,
- 2:29Speaker 1: they were giving some clues and hints. Two of the
- 2:33Speaker 1: ones that I really was highlighting throughout the month of
- 2:37Speaker 1: October was first of all, a by signal that was
- 2:45Speaker 1: generated in my work in bitcoin in early October. It
- 2:49Speaker 1: was a successive by signal, another one in a series
- 2:52Speaker 1: of them. But everything was showing me that bitcoins it
- 2:57Speaker 1: should see in October November surge. And at the same time,
- 3:03Speaker 1: the SMP MidCap four hundred was giving some strong by
- 3:08Speaker 1: signals in early October, and the whole time the cycles
- 3:14Speaker 1: that I was following in that mid cap four hundred,
- 3:19Speaker 1: were telling me to look for a final high, to
- 3:23Speaker 1: wait until late November, ideally right around November twenty second,
- 3:29Speaker 1: twenty fifth, and even had a multi month upside range
- 3:34Speaker 1: target as what I call it, around thirty four hundred.
- 3:37Speaker 2: So both of those.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Things were angling a little in favor of the result
- 3:43Speaker 1: that we saw in the election, and they both followed
- 3:47Speaker 1: through on that analysis and on those cycles, and the
- 3:51Speaker 1: MidCap four hundred was kind of shocking to me just
- 3:54Speaker 1: how precise it was. It rallied right up into November
- 3:58Speaker 1: twenty fifths by briefly above thirty four hundred and has
- 4:03Speaker 1: declined since then. So there's, you know, some of those
- 4:07Speaker 1: markets that give you a little bit of a clue,
- 4:11Speaker 1: but certainly not something you would want to trade or
- 4:16Speaker 1: make a decision directly off of.
- 4:18Speaker 4: M So it's come to pass. Do you think the
- 4:22Speaker 4: market is has seen its final high here for a
- 4:26Speaker 4: while or the stock market, I should say, or are
- 4:29Speaker 4: we going to see more of the same?
- 4:31Speaker 1: Well, I think that it is setting a multi month high.
- 4:36Speaker 1: And what I discussed back in early October was the setup.
- 4:41Speaker 2: The structure from a technical perspective.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Was reminding me of early June in that June July
- 4:50Speaker 1: period equating to the October November period where you saw
- 4:55Speaker 1: the small and MidCap indexes kind of take the lead
- 4:59Speaker 1: and see stronger rallies than the large PAP indexes.
- 5:05Speaker 2: And that's what you've seen.
- 5:07Speaker 1: And since that late November peak in the small and midcafs,
- 5:10Speaker 1: the Russell two thousand also peaked right in lockstep with
- 5:14Speaker 1: those cycles. Then you had the down as that one
- 5:18Speaker 1: hundred s and P one five hundred excuse me, follow
- 5:21Speaker 1: through a little beyond that and initially set highs in
- 5:26Speaker 1: early December. But I'm really watching some key levels in
- 5:31Speaker 1: those small and midcalfs to see if they confirm and
- 5:36Speaker 1: or signal something larger than just a multi week correction.
- 5:42Speaker 4: All right, So we've seen the price of gold go
- 5:47Speaker 4: way way higher and getting in there looks like it's
- 5:52Speaker 4: been sticking around the twenty six twenty seven hundred dollars range.
- 5:56Speaker 1: What we think?
- 5:57Speaker 4: What are we thinking here? And does the election? Is
- 5:59Speaker 4: the election going to have an impact on it or
- 6:02Speaker 4: is it just a trend that was already underway continuing.
- 6:06Speaker 1: I think that it's more of the ladder that ever
- 6:10Speaker 1: since late twenty twenty two, I've been discussing what I
- 6:15Speaker 1: thought would be a multi year bowl market in gold
- 6:19Speaker 1: and coming into the third quarter. One of the key
- 6:24Speaker 1: things I was watching was this very consistent it's a
- 6:28Speaker 1: little over a year long cycle that gold has adhere to.
- 6:32Speaker 1: It's a twelve and a half month cycle, usually fifty
- 6:36Speaker 1: four to fifty nine weeks, although in the recent phases
- 6:40Speaker 1: it's been very close to that fifty four week timeframe,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and it had set successive lows in September of twenty
- 6:49Speaker 1: twenty two October of twenty twenty three, and was telling
- 6:54Speaker 1: me to look for an inversion and a peak in
- 6:57Speaker 1: late October, which is when gold set it is high.
- 7:02Speaker 1: I think that that highest is likely to hold for
- 7:05Speaker 1: at least a few months. Ultimately, I would expect gold
- 7:11Speaker 1: to resume that up trend, but there still is a
- 7:15Speaker 1: question as to whether the intervening correction is complete, if
- 7:20Speaker 1: it has seen its extreme to the downside.
- 7:25Speaker 2: One of the.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Interesting technical wave perspectives of gold's recent sell off was
- 7:34Speaker 1: that it really mimicked and duplicated its largest decline of
- 7:42Speaker 1: the last year and bottoms right when it equaled that advance.
- 7:47Speaker 1: So you had kind of this wave similarity comparison going
- 7:53Speaker 1: on there, which is technically something to look for at
- 7:58Speaker 1: least an initial low. But again I'm waiting for some
- 8:03Speaker 1: clear indication whether the correction is complete, and if that's
- 8:08Speaker 1: the case, i think we'd still stay in a trading
- 8:10Speaker 1: range for another month or so before breaking out to
- 8:14Speaker 1: the upside, or whether there's one more leg down before
- 8:19Speaker 1: the correction is complete.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Okay, and let's see interest rates. We always talk about
- 8:26Speaker 4: interest rates. They've been coming down a bit. We're going
- 8:30Speaker 4: to see them go lowerly as low as they can
- 8:33Speaker 4: be now.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I think that there's another leg down eventually that goes
- 8:39Speaker 1: along with intermediate analysis some three to six months trends
- 8:46Speaker 1: and cycles, but also a much broader, much longer term
- 8:52Speaker 1: cycle that I've discussed in the past, where you've had
- 8:58Speaker 1: since the beginning of the US, there's been this seventeen
- 9:04Speaker 1: year cycle that has timed thirteen of fourteen. So thirteen
- 9:10Speaker 1: of the fourteen phases of that seventeen year cycle has
- 9:16Speaker 1: timed recessions in the US, and the only time it
- 9:21Speaker 1: didn't was when we were getting into World War two.
- 9:25Speaker 1: And that comes back into play in twenty twenty five.
- 9:31Speaker 1: And there's a lot of other factors, certainly leaning in
- 9:34Speaker 1: that direction. Have also done some analysis and shown why
- 9:40Speaker 1: I think that part of that recessionary cycle could also
- 9:45Speaker 1: be some stagflation in there.
- 9:48Speaker 2: But I do think that.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Between now, really my cycles were bottoming in November for bonds.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Between the and the first quarter of twenty twenty five,
- 10:03Speaker 1: you could see interst rates edging lower and see perhaps
- 10:09Speaker 1: some signs of that recessionary impact hitting the markets. But
- 10:16Speaker 1: I think, like I said, towards the latter part of
- 10:19Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, I think that you're going to see
- 10:23Speaker 1: some new inflationary pressures and perhaps resulting in a form
- 10:29Speaker 1: of stagflation moving forward from that time frame.
- 10:34Speaker 2: So I think interest rates are in.
- 10:35Speaker 1: For a volatile time as evidence of each of those
- 10:43Speaker 1: factors hits the markets and comes to fruition. But all
- 10:49Speaker 1: in all, I do think that bonds have probably hit
- 10:54Speaker 1: a multi month low, which interest rates are the inversion
- 10:58Speaker 1: of that. So those interest rates have seen a multi
- 11:04Speaker 1: month peak in mid November, and that they should drift
- 11:09Speaker 1: lower into the first quarter of twenty twenty five.
- 11:13Speaker 2: All right, all right.
- 11:15Speaker 4: So I guess we should talk about oil. It's trading
- 11:22Speaker 4: like ground just under seventy bucks a barrel. Now, WTI
- 11:28Speaker 4: and that kind of fits in with inflation and interest
- 11:31Speaker 4: rates and everything else. So what's your take on it.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Well, I watch each of the energy mark it's crewed,
- 11:40Speaker 1: unleaded gas, heating oil, and even natural gas, which kind
- 11:43Speaker 1: of moves in a different cycle than the other three,
- 11:49Speaker 1: but also as a little bit of a proxy when
- 11:54Speaker 1: there's some uncertainty there. Also watch the Goldman Sachs commodity,
- 12:00Speaker 1: which is heavily weighted in energy, and all of those
- 12:05Speaker 1: factors except for the natural gas, but the crude in
- 12:09Speaker 1: products and the GSCI. We're all telling me to look
- 12:13Speaker 1: for a multi month bottom in September of this year,
- 12:18Speaker 1: and although we haven't seen any big move up from there,
- 12:25Speaker 1: there was your initial rally in early October, but since
- 12:28Speaker 1: then all those markets have retreated and gone back towards
- 12:33Speaker 1: the lows. But as long as that September low holds,
- 12:36Speaker 1: which I expected to, I do think that energy markets
- 12:40Speaker 1: are going to see a new rally, probably starting in
- 12:45Speaker 1: December and then carrying forward into the first quarter of
- 12:49Speaker 1: next year. So I think we're in a period where
- 12:53Speaker 1: you're going to see some upward pressure on oil prices,
- 12:59Speaker 1: not necessarily really a raging bull market, but something that
- 13:03Speaker 1: is certainly tradable and has some nice upside to it.
- 13:10Speaker 4: Interesting. Interesting, all right, what else should we be looking at?
- 13:14Speaker 1: Well, one of the other things that kind of played
- 13:17Speaker 1: in with the election cycle is the dollar US dollar.
- 13:22Speaker 1: And you know, you and I talked back in twenty
- 13:25Speaker 1: sixteen and again in twenty twenty, and what I discussed
- 13:31Speaker 1: then and continue to focus on is a very general,
- 13:35Speaker 1: broad correlation, but it continues to Holt true, and that
- 13:40Speaker 1: is the movement in the dollar based on the administration
- 13:45Speaker 1: Republican or Democratic that is in power. And since the
- 13:51Speaker 1: early eighties, you've seen a pretty strong connection between the
- 13:57Speaker 1: dollar selling off door during Republican administrations and the dollar
- 14:03Speaker 1: rallying on balance during democratic administrations.
- 14:08Speaker 2: And one of.
- 14:09Speaker 1: The reasons for that, if you go back to the eighties,
- 14:14Speaker 1: was certainly a strong desire for the dollar to week in.
- 14:20Speaker 1: It was very strong at the time, but the Reagan
- 14:23Speaker 1: administration wanted to see the dollar decline to help exports,
- 14:30Speaker 1: and so you had leading up to and then after
- 14:35Speaker 1: the Plaza Accord in nineteen eighty five, you had representatives
- 14:39Speaker 1: for the administration constantly on the airwaves talking down the dollar.
- 14:45Speaker 1: But that mentality has carried through and again you look
- 14:49Speaker 1: at over the last forty years, the dollar has swung
- 14:54Speaker 1: in lockstep with that correlation, and all of my work
- 15:00Speaker 1: has been showing that the dollar should see a new
- 15:04Speaker 1: decline in twenty twenty five. So that would fit most
- 15:08Speaker 1: closely with if there was a Republican administration in power,
- 15:13Speaker 1: if that correlation continues to hold firm, And so that's
- 15:19Speaker 1: certainly the results of the election reinforced that outlook.
- 15:25Speaker 2: In the dollar.
- 15:27Speaker 1: And right now I'm looking at the potential for the
- 15:31Speaker 1: dollar to remain in a trading range into January, possibly
- 15:37Speaker 1: spike a little bit above recent highs in January, but
- 15:40Speaker 1: then from that point forward is when some downward pressures
- 15:45Speaker 1: should begin to resume on the dollar.
- 15:51Speaker 4: All right, Well, yeah, like we saw the dollar weaken
- 15:55Speaker 4: up a little bit towards the summer, and we had
- 15:57Speaker 4: talked and I was wondering if that was the the
- 16:00Speaker 4: tip off that the election was going to go towards Trump. Well,
- 16:08Speaker 4: and so it happened.
- 16:11Speaker 1: It's more of a correlation while that administration is in power.
- 16:16Speaker 2: So the outlook for the dollar was.
- 16:19Speaker 1: And that's even what we discussed back in twenty sixteen
- 16:23Speaker 1: when I thought the dollar was going to see a
- 16:25Speaker 1: multi year top in late twenty sixteen or early twenty seventeen.
- 16:31Speaker 1: And that's why I thought in the middle of twenty
- 16:34Speaker 1: sixteen that we would see a republican administration, and then
- 16:38Speaker 1: in twenty twenty just the opposite that the dollar was
- 16:42Speaker 1: looking like it would be bottoming and rallying for a
- 16:47Speaker 1: couple of years from twenty twenty into twenty twenty two.
- 16:50Speaker 1: That was, in my opinion, favoring a democratic administration. And
- 16:56Speaker 1: now here we are again. The outlook is really here
- 17:00Speaker 1: we are. The thing that I focus on because that's
- 17:03Speaker 1: when the administration power does have some influence on the
- 17:08Speaker 1: movement of the dollar.
- 17:10Speaker 4: M Yeah, it's just interesting to see. I got a
- 17:14Speaker 4: question kind of off the cuff one of my one
- 17:17Speaker 4: of our community or FSN community asked. This was Jim.
- 17:23Speaker 4: I said, next time Eric is on, please ask him
- 17:27Speaker 4: if any of the charts that he sees are affected
- 17:32Speaker 4: by AI or somehow indicative of the AI revolution taking place.
- 17:38Speaker 1: That's one of those things that's really too specific for
- 17:46Speaker 1: the type of work that I do to really convincingly
- 17:52Speaker 1: make a conclusion one where or another. I guess it
- 17:57Speaker 1: would have to take into account a lot of different factors,
- 18:02Speaker 1: you know, whether that really does ultimately help with automation,
- 18:09Speaker 1: or whether it has positive or negative impact on true
- 18:16Speaker 1: employment as as AI starts to become a competing.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Factor in there.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I mean, I do watch several of the related stocks
- 18:30Speaker 1: for my own.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Information and.
- 18:36Speaker 1: Help, or as a proxy for things like the tech indexes.
- 18:42Speaker 1: But I don't know that I would necessarily say that
- 18:46Speaker 1: I can conclude anything from looking at, you know, a
- 18:51Speaker 1: couple of years worth of focus on AI potential and
- 18:57Speaker 1: apply that to the broader outlook.
- 19:00Speaker 4: I kind of figured that was what you would say,
- 19:03Speaker 4: but you had the questions I had to ask it. Hey,
- 19:05Speaker 4: all right, Eric, appreciate you coming on. As always, find
- 19:09Speaker 4: Eric's work at inside track Trading. That's I n side
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