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Crawling in the Dark — The Cult Classic Horror of C.H.U.D. - Xenomania 29 · Xenomania

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  No, be afraid.
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  Be very afraid.
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  Kearns: I don't know if if that's a thing, but if it's a thing,
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  I hope you don't have it too.
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  Jon: Welcome to Xenomania.
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  Kearns: Welcome to Xenomania.
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  We don't have aid space.
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  everybody.
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  Ryan: No, we don't.
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  Jon: Hi, Dr. Nick.
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  Kearns: So we're starting out this episode with another, starting out
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  this episode with another blind ranking from the Maniacal Mind of John.
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  Jon: Oh yeah.
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  I'm gonna share my screen for you guys.
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  Ryan: Got my homework.
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  Jon: Um, tire.
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  Let's do it.
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  Share.
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  Here we go.
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  You got me?
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  Ryan: All right.
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  Kearns: I see it.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  So, movie number one for you on this themed up to six points.
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  Blind ranking is maniac.
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  Kearns: Why is there a bulge in his pants?
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  Is that just the lighting?
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  Ryan: No.
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  Jon: No, I think it's, I think it's both bulge and lighting.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: It's a double whammy.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: A double whammy.
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  Ryan: Ooh.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Yep.
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  Kearns: see here.
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  Jon: I mean, I think the theme of our podcast is now dongs anyway, so.
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  Kearns: Yeah, at this point it's very dog heavy.
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  Alright,
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  Jon: All right, so gimme a rank for maniac.
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  Kearns: All right.
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  I am gonna just hit four.
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  Jon: All right.
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  Kearns: Safe.
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  That would be three, but I feel like four.
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  Ryan: gonna go with three.
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  I'm gonna go with the middle
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  Kearns: What's the last time I saw this movie?
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  Jon: All right.
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  Ryan: It's a
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  Jon: Our next movie,
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  basket case.
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  Kearns: This is a trap.
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  Jon: Yeah, of course.
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  It's a trap.
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  Kearns: This is a trap.
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  I mean it, you can't go wrong with basket.
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  Case at at lowest number two.
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  Jon: All right.
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  Kearns: Basket case is so good.
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  I'm gonna hit two for basket.
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  I'm gonna write this down.
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  Jon: I got 'em.
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  Ryan: I'm going on.
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  Kearns: You're writing on this
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: so we can't shoot.
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  Jon: Where you going, Ryan?
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  Ryan: I'm gonna go number two with it as well.
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  Jon: All righty.
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  Ryan: have it written down.
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  Just see,
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  Kearns: This is tough.
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  This is gonna be tough.
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  Jon: Next movie.
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  Kearns: thing be
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  Jon: Street Trash.
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  Ryan: Uh, I gotta
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  Jon: Oh.
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  Do we have any guesses on theme here?
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  Kearns: mutate?
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  Well, basket case isn't a mutation.
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  Her say
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  Jon: Nope.
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  Kearns: disabled serial killers,
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  Jon: It is not Disabled.
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  Serial Killers,
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  Kearns: why
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  Jon: next week.
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  Ryan: Maybe
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  Kearns: they be next to it?
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  Ryan: on New York City.
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  each
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  Jon: Ooh.
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  Ryan: plague have this like connection with the city.
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  Right.
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  And they.
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  Kearns: If you have Gies on this list.
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  Jon: I am not, I'm not sure if I can count that answer, Ryan.
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  Ryan: Oh,
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  Kearns: Okay.
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  Jon: It's a little
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  Ryan: Vague.
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  Kearns: too vague.
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  Jon: too, it, it's a little too specific.
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  Kearns: Oh, too specific what?
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  For a theme.
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  I, it's gotta be like a universal theme.
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  Like
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  Jon: mean it, I'm gonna count it because these are all New York City movies.
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  Ryan: all right.
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  Kearns: Oh, he got it on a third movie.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Ryan: right.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  So that's, that's a three for Ryan.
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  I'm guessing the theme now, where are we?
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  Ranking street trash.
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  Ryan: I gotta go four.
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  Lemme go Four.
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  Kearns: I'm hitting it with five.
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  Jon: All right.
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  Kearns: So I got a two, a three, and a five.
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  At least four and one.
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  I'm feeling good about this.
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  Jon: Is the 13th part?
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  Eight
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  Kearns: Dammit.
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  I can't put that ahead of basket case for me.
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  Ryan: Well, it's making me
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  Kearns: Can that be my number one
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  Ryan: though?
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  It's a, if it's a New York City film, what's his number one, and I'll be real.
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  Jon: it.
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  Ryan: Part eight is
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  Jon: It might not be one you think of as New York City either.
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  It's definitely set in New York City.
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  Kearns: gremlins two.
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  Jon: Oh, no.
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  Gremlins too.
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  This is one I have, I probably have 40 or 50 movies that could be on here.
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  So
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  Kearns: Okay.
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  Jon: this again.
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  Kearns: All right.
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  put this at number four, even though I feel like I wish I
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  could swap my three and four now.
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  Jon: I think you didn't, you put maniac four.
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  Kearns: Oh, did I?
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  is a better three.
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  works out.
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  Jon: Ryan.
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  I.
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  Ryan: gonna put it with five.
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  It's not my favorite Friday 13th.
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  It's, I love six.
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  I'll wave a banner for six, four, and three.
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  You know what gets me.
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  Kearns: is a 60 beast.
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  Ryan: the ending when he, the chemical waste turns him back into a child.
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  Like I get it, but it's like that's how we're beating him in New York City.
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  can't
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: It's pretty late.
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  Ryan: State Building or something like, you know,
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  Kearns: I mean, that would've been better.
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  That would've been way better.
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  got King Kong.
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  Jon: I mean for me, this would be far and away, number one, if it was
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  like fully filmed in New York City.
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  Kearns: Got it.
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  Ryan: on a ferry boat.
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  Or the majority I should
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  Jon: So,
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  Kearns: we both, the next one's, both are number ones, which is
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  Jon: it is, which is
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  Kearns: hard.
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  Jon: cinematically is going to work very well.
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  Kearns: Do, do, do, do.
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  Oh, hell yeah.
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  No, I'm cool with this.
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  Ryan: I'm fine with that.
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  Kearns: I've watched this as, um, with other people as their first watch three
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  times, and I've never been disappointed.
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  Incidentally, this is why I, I am so critical of hereditary.
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  I just feel like it's a, unfaithful knockoff
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  bacon.
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  Jon: Yeah, I would agree.
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  Kearns: Like, it, it could have been better
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: It, it literally says it's not what you're expecting.
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  It's the whole stick, everybody.
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  Jon: All right guys, so
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  Kearns: I,
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  Jon: now let me tabulate a point for list quality.
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  Ryan has, Ryan has three for his New York City guests,
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  and
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  I don't know, I think the two spots higher for Friday, the
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  13th part eight separates Kerns.
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  Kearns: oh yeah.
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  Jon: One point to Kerns.
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  Kearns: I got one point.
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  Jon: Yes.
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  Kearns: three.
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  I've got one.
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  Jon: Which by my unofficial makes it three, two Ryan's lead.
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  Kearns: All right.
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  I'm, I'm still in it.
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  I'm still in it.
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  I just, I'm just happy to be at the party when it comes to doing anything
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  regarding horror with you two.
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  I'm just happy to be at the table.
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  Ryan: fun.
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  That's,
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  Kearns: All right, everybody.
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  So, New York City Sewer Systems.
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  This week we are talking about Hun
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  Ryan: Judd, or,
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  Kearns: and now I had never seen Shun before.
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  Ryan: oh, I thought you did.
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  Kearns: No, I'd never seen it.
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  I, I'd seen the,
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  Jon: Oh, that's amazing.
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  I'm so jealous.
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  You guys got to watch it for the first time.
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  Kearns: I thought it was gonna be a crap movie.
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  I saw the cover all the time as a kid, and
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  looks cool.
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  But I never rented it.
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  And, uh, I didn't think that it was gonna be as, uh, I mean, the production
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  value is way higher than I was expecting.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: one when this came out.
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  was not yet born
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  John was young.
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  Jon: I was a year short of Bar Mitzvah.
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  Kearns: Oh, there you go.
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  Mazel to my friend.
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  Ryan: Muzzles off.
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  Kearns: But it was, it holds up.
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  Guys, you gotta watch this as always.
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  There will be spoilers.
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  We're gonna talk about the whole movie in depth in a
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: name some of the actors that are in it besides John Goodman.
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  'cause I'm stealing that one.
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  John Goodman's in this.
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  Jon: John Goodman is in this
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  Ryan: best
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  Jon: but we do have John Goodman.
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  Ryan: John Goodman.
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  Before King.
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  Ralph.
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  Before Roseanne, like his
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  Kearns: Way before the Babe.
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  Ryan: yeah.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: Way before he was the babe.
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  He was cop number two in Shut.
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  Ryan: Or,
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  Jon: the bunker in Cloverfield Lane.
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  Kearns: I mean, love to be in that bunker with him.
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  Just saying ungrateful.
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  Ryan: with John Goodman is a good time?
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  Sometimes.
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  Jon: I'd,
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  sn I'd snuggle up to him.
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  Kearns: gear right after this because he had those movies.
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  But he was, he was exploding out of Roseanne.
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  America fell in love with him from Roseanne as Dan Connor.
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  just that guy.
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  Everybody just like, he came on screen and you were like, oh, thank God.
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  Dad's mom.
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  Ryan: yeah.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: Like he was nice.
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  It was nice.
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  Jon: Yes.
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  So, who else do we have?
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  We get John Heard.
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  Kearns: John heard was a cool surprise too.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: Yes.
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  Kearns: out he's in it real
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  I was like, what the hell's he doing in this?
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  Wasn't he in the toy or was it uh, toy?
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  No, it was big.
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  He's like the jackass Wall Street
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: He's in big.
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  He's in, in a lot
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  Kearns: Oh, he's the dad in home alone.
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  Ryan: Home Alone, one and two.
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  He was also in The
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  Kearns: Like you see his face and you know him.
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  Oh, it's right.
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  Yeah.
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  He plays an asshole cop in Sopranos.
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  Ryan: in snake eyes.
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  Kearns: The movie with Nicholas Cage.
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  That's an interesting reference.
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  I happen to have seen that in theaters.
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  Ryan: I love snake ice.
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  I wa uh, it's just iconic cover.
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  He's been in a lot of movies though.
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  Uh, John Heard.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: everything.
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  Ryan: other actor who's also in it.
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  The good old reverend, one of my favorites.
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  Daniel Stern,
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Ryan: a home aloneness.
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  Jon: I, mm-hmm.
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  I, I had to, I'm glad I looked.
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  Daniel Stern up 'cause we almost had a Tim Curry moment.
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  Ryan: thought he was dead?
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  Jon: I have somewhere in my brain, I have him confused
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  with somebody else who is dead
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  Kearns: Oh,
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  thank God it's not him.
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  Jon: I'm not sure who.
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  Kearns: Oh geez.
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  Jon: I spent a good half an hour in this rabbit hole this afternoon, trying
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  to figure out who I thought was dead.
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  Ryan: I kill by mistake?
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  Kearns: Epic.
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  Jon: Who's dead.
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  Kearns: The wet bandit?
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  No, he's alive.
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  We, by the way, listeners, we've been sending each other memes, Tim Curry memes
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  since I, I killed him off prematurely.
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  Ryan: bars, manically
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  Kearns: he's doing Tim Curry's things out there.
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  He's,
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  Jon: He very much is.
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  Kearns: or not, but he is very alive.
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  Jon: He is very alive.
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  Kearns: yeah, getting his newspaper and stuff.
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  Ryan: what do you
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  Kearns: Chu
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  Ryan: was gonna say speak about a
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  Kearns: Oh, sorry.
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  Ryan: Christopher Curry who plays,
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  Jon: We do.
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  Ryan: I think
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  Jon: I.
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  Ryan: Bosch.
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  I was gonna call him Lieutenant Bosch, and he's also in Starship
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  Kearns: That's right.
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  Ryan: as Rico's father.
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  Jon: So I'm not as, I'm not very well versed on art.
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  So maybe you guys can fill in this blank.
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  Maybe listeners can fill in this blank spot for me.
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  I know there is an artist named Harus Bosh.
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  Kearns: Oh, cool.
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  Jon: I just wonder if there's not some hidden connection to the character type
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  in the artist or the movie and the art.
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  I know he, it was known for like kind of hellish, demented artwork.
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  Ryan: Hmm.
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  Kearns: It's gotta be an
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  Jon: I'm sure it has to be a nod.
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  Kearns: yeah, it's gotta be, I'd be like, if you had like Charles Banksy
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  the movie and you weren't referencing, you know, the Banksy art and stuff,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Kearns: But Cool man.
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  Um, so let's give the people a little taste of Chd.
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  I like the opening scene.
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  They had me hooked right away.
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  Ryan: It's an awesome opening scene.
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  They just kinda, take you into it right away.
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  The woman's just walking her dog.
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  It's all calm.
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  And then you just see her get pulled down.
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  You hear the yelp of the dog and it's a
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: awesome opening.
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  'cause you see the street sweeper just kind of taking the trash away.
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  Like it was like she was, to me, from a film perspective, I felt like
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  it's just like once she was gone, it was like left to the streets.
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  She was technically street trash.
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  And that's how it like, kind of
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: through that film is like, we'll talk about the homeless and the
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  surrounding of what the homeless means
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  A big thinking.
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  Ryan: how people forget about homeless people and disregard
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: the street, like without a care.
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  Jon: Now, that said, I'm not sure she was homeless
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  Ryan: no she
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  Kearns: She wasn't,
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  Jon: I've always believed that that's Bosch's wife.
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  Kearns: Oh, he kills his wife.
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  Jon: Because he, his wife, is one of the missing people.
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  It's revealed in the movie.
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  So I've always sort of assumed that that's who that character is.
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  Ryan: If, um,
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: spoiler alert, ladies and gentlemen, that is his wife.
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  Um, it does say it in one of the lines later in the film 'cause he
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  Jon: Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: moment and they, they find her head?
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  I'm trying to remember if they do.
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  yes,
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  Kearns: in the box?
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  Ryan: it was, it was actually right next to a pier in like a fishing net.
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  So that's how he finds
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: and, that was his wife in the beginning.
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  And it, it's a nice like, connection.
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  It was nice a writer's, writer's connection in that
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: So she gets pulled.
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  I thought they were gonna go for an environmental thing with the
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  street sweeper by the way that they were gonna do, like, you know,
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  you're like, not the happening.
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  That's the only movie that comes to mind right now that hits you
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  over the head with its steam.
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  it's like, oh yeah.
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  It's like, um, it's, you know, this garbage thing.
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  They need to, we need to clean up this world and we're gonna get shoulds.
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  Now.
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  more spot on with regard to the human
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  to
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  Um,
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  Jon: I mean, it, it's a, an effective way to have her vanish without a trace.
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  Ryan: Yes.
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  Kearns: right.
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  It was useful.
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  I like how it, it swings in and we get Cooper,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  George Cooper.
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  Kearns: George Cooper, who's the photographer, with his super
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  hot girlfriend, who's also his model that he has to shoot.
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  And Lauren and the Kim Christ, for those of you who are going to
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  conventions, go to hers, get a signature.
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  Ryan: from the train, man.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: It's a movie I haven't thought of in a while.
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  and yeah, so he's kind of a flippant character a little bit, and they're
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  doing, uh, he's late on the sort of getting photographs of these
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  two specific homeless people,
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  he's gotta get those in.
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  Because they need to do an expose on them or whatever.
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  It's apparently of great importance for the newspaper.
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  Jon: Yes.
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  George is very unconcerned with deadlines
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  Ryan: Yeah,
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  Kearns: Yes.
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  George
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  Jon: or schedules for that matter.
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  Like he's late on the pictures for the, the homeless story.
• 15:21
  He forgets that he's supposed to shoot a thing with Lauren that day.
• 15:26
  He's just a mess.
• 15:27
  He's just, he's kind of the strangest antagonist, uh, protagonist in
• 15:33
  one of these movies we've watched.
• 15:35
  Ryan: He's actually the bad
• 15:36
  Kearns: He's interesting 'cause he's not likable, but he is
• 15:38
  likable because he is not likable.
• 15:40
  Ryan: Yeah, he's like an.
• 15:42
  Kearns: this guy is like just kind of out there in the wind man
• 15:46
  just doing his thing.
• 15:48
  Jon: Y Yeah.
• 15:48
  And it's really strange because they really set him up like he's gonna be hero.
• 15:54
  And for most of the movie, he really doesn't have a clue what's going on.
• 15:58
  Ryan: no.
• 15:59
  Kearns: he's just there.
• 16:00
  he's not growing as a character either.
• 16:02
  He is just experiencing things.
• 16:03
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:05
  Kearns: it's like, do you think of the lines like the, um,
• 16:07
  some heroes are born heroes.
• 16:08
  Some heroes, uh, are, what is it?
• 16:11
  No, it's greatness.
• 16:13
  Some people are born great.
• 16:14
  Some people strive for greatness, and some people have greatness through rest upon
• 16:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:18
  Kearns: Cooper, Cooper had greatness shoved down his throat
• 16:22
  Jon: And he spit, he mostly spit it back out.
• 16:25
  Kearns: Yeah, exactly.
• 16:27
  Exactly.
• 16:28
  And it's, uh, it's good man.
• 16:30
  Uh, the, the cinematography of the movie is very eighties, very
• 16:34
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:34
  Kearns: very New York City as well, which is super cool,
• 16:37
  Ryan: it
• 16:37
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:38
  Ryan: it's the city, the whole darkness
• 16:40
  Kearns: right?
• 16:41
  Ryan: it just, especially with the sewer scenes, like if
• 16:45
  Kearns: I was gonna say, anybody who's seen the original Ninja Turtles movie
• 16:48
  knows what we're talking about right now.
• 16:49
  It's just dark camera work.
• 16:52
  Jon: Yeah.
• 16:52
  I mean, if you've seen an eighties New York movie, that's what you see.
• 16:57
  Ryan: Yes,
• 16:57
  Kearns: It's like they didn't bring extra lighting.
• 16:59
  kind of make it stay dark
• 17:01
  Jon: Yeah.
• 17:02
  Kearns: and not Tim Burton dark, not cute, dark.
• 17:04
  It's
• 17:05
  Jon: No.
• 17:05
  Yeah.
• 17:06
  Ryan: it's
• 17:06
  Jon: It's that.
• 17:07
  It's gritty.
• 17:09
  gritty.
• 17:10
  New eighties New York City before it got dignified.
• 17:15
  Kearns: Yep.
• 17:16
  You can smell this movie.
• 17:17
  Jon: Yes.
• 17:19
  Kearns: of the best
• 17:19
  Jon: if, if you grew up in the eighties, you know exactly
• 17:23
  what this movie smells like.
• 17:25
  Kearns: Anybody who's had to walk back to Grand Central, like at one in
• 17:28
  the morning in the city, knows what
• 17:30
  smells
• 17:31
  today, it's got that same
• 17:33
  Jon: yeah.
• 17:34
  Yep.
• 17:34
  Kearns: summer, New York City Street
• 17:36
  to it.
• 17:37
  Like when I'm watching it, I was like, man, this is like bringing back memories
• 17:41
  rambling back to this train station after seeing the Who or something
• 17:44
  Jon: Uh huh.
• 17:45
  Ryan: to catch the
• 17:46
  Kearns: God, now I feel older.
• 17:47
  Yep.
• 17:48
  And let, or you're sleeping there till 5:30 AM
• 17:52
  Ryan: that's when the Chuts
• 17:53
  Kearns: Yeah, it's,
• 17:56
  Jon: That's when Real Life Chds come out,
• 17:58
  Kearns: yep.
• 17:59
  Exactly.
• 18:00
  Jon: Lee.
• 18:02
  probably this movie, one of his movie's.
• 18:04
  Greatest contributions is just the word CHD as an insult.
• 18:08
  Kearns: it's so good.
• 18:10
  such a good word,
• 18:11
  Jon: anybody.
• 18:12
  It fits for anybody
• 18:14
  Ryan: Yeah, it.
• 18:15
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 18:16
  Jon: and anybody you're mad at can be a chd.
• 18:20
  Kearns: Damn
• 18:21
  Jon: It could be a description of how somebody looks.
• 18:25
  Kearns: It's not a scary word either.
• 18:26
  It's
• 18:26
  Jon: No, yeah.
• 18:28
  Kearns: which, which is an acronym for a very scary, it's very scary phrase.
• 18:33
  Jon: Two very scary phrases.
• 18:34
  Really?
• 18:35
  Kearns: yeah.
• 18:36
  True.
• 18:37
  True.
• 18:38
  So tell us a little bit about what's happening to these
• 18:40
  homeless people that are already, you know, living their dreams.
• 18:43
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:43
  So you have a, basically a colony of homeless who are living in
• 18:47
  the tunnels under the city.
• 18:50
  I guess they're like access tunnels for sub the subway system and whatever.
• 18:54
  they've started to disappear, but really, um, oh, Reverend AJ is
• 18:58
  the only one that has noticed that the homeless are disappearing.
• 19:02
  He runs a soup kitchen and it's kind of implied that he's a
• 19:06
  little bit of a, a huckster maybe,
• 19:09
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Yeah.
• 19:11
  Jon: but he's right.
• 19:12
  Kearns: is a great word, by the way, an underused word.
• 19:16
  Jon: He's reported the missing and nobody's come to investigate,
• 19:19
  so he's really surprised when Captain Bosch shows up.
• 19:23
  Asking him questions about missing people, only to really, to then
• 19:29
  really kind of discover that Bosch isn't there asking about the
• 19:32
  homeless people so much as his wife,
• 19:35
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 19:36
  Jon: the homeless people come, sort of come to his awareness in that scene.
• 19:44
  Kearns: it.
• 19:45
  Ryan: because Daniel Stern's character, I mean, from what I remember,
• 19:49
  I believe it was 1212 missing.
• 19:52
  And then we have a really
• 19:53
  Jon: Yes.
• 19:53
  Ryan: where Bosch and, um, leads Bosch to one of the under, under dwellers.
• 20:01
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:02
  Ryan: And I don't know what he's reciting.
• 20:04
  I don't know if it was written for the script or if it's like
• 20:06
  actual English, like playwright.
• 20:08
  He's actually reciting, but he recites this, um, monologue and with the knife.
• 20:14
  It's just, it's really good cinematography, how they
• 20:16
  film it and everything.
• 20:18
  But it just
• 20:18
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:19
  Ryan: Bosch down that rabbit hole.
• 20:21
  Like literally as, um, the reverend
• 20:24
  Jon: Yeah.
• 20:24
  Ryan: entrance and they hear the chds in the background and they
• 20:28
  find the, the radioactive, um,
• 20:31
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:33
  Ryan: uh, the sync, I don't know what it's actually called, but the, the
• 20:36
  signal for radioactive, uh, no, like, uh,
• 20:39
  Jon: The, the Geiger counter.
• 20:41
  Ryan: there we go.
• 20:41
  Okay.
• 20:42
  And that was, that was a pretty cool, and it's just kind of like,
• 20:45
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:46
  Ryan: in this film is just, it links up
• 20:49
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:49
  Ryan: and it allows these characters, these actors, to flow with these
• 20:53
  characters very well as well.
• 20:55
  Jon: Yeah.
• 20:55
  Kearns: a tension super well too.
• 20:57
  The, uh, like the guy getting snatched from under the boxes and
• 21:00
  stuff earlier on, that stuff's like perfectly timed the way they do it,
• 21:05
  don't have fancy special effects to make it cool.
• 21:08
  just cool.
• 21:09
  Jon: Yeah.
• 21:11
  And I mean the, even before that scene, you get the scene of George going with.
• 21:15
  And the homeless woman, he bailed out after she stole a police officer's gun.
• 21:22
  he goes with the flora into the tunnels to see Victor and who's one of the people
• 21:29
  he had been supposed to photograph.
• 21:31
  And they find Victor in bad shape,
• 21:35
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 21:35
  Jon: uh, with, you know, sweating and definitely kind of paranoid.
• 21:42
  And then they reveal his leg and his leg is all torn apart by something which we
• 21:49
  know to be the chds that George doesn't.
• 21:52
  Kearns: Right.
• 21:54
  Ryan: That was cool.
• 21:54
  Special effects.
• 21:56
  Um, whoever designed the special effects on that, um, to actually take a look.
• 22:01
  You can see actually how they did it, how, um, it looked like the leg was
• 22:05
  caved in and the bone was popping out.
• 22:07
  It was pretty
• 22:08
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:08
  Ryan: for 1984.
• 22:11
  Jon: Yeah,
• 22:13
  Ryan: can't
• 22:13
  Jon: was a well done.
• 22:15
  Kearns: Body horror is so hit and miss during that decade too, so it's either
• 22:19
  can't be like, oh, okay, this is that kind of movie where you're like, Ugh,
• 22:23
  Ryan: Oh,
• 22:23
  Jon: Yeah.
• 22:25
  Kearns: really well done.
• 22:25
  Prosthetics.
• 22:26
  Ryan: I felt it.
• 22:27
  Right Where, whereas in the shin, he gets bit you can just
• 22:31
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Ryan: that white bone just like sticking out and it's like, ugh.
• 22:35
  Yeah.
• 22:35
  I'm like,
• 22:36
  Jon: Yeah,
• 22:37
  Kearns: It was gritty.
• 22:38
  Like I said, it was a good movie.
• 22:40
  I couldn't watch it with as much fidelity as I'd like to have.
• 22:42
  I watched, 35 minutes of it actually sitting down, staring at it and
• 22:45
  the rest of it during commuting.
• 22:48
  So it was like listening, glancing, listening, glancing.
• 22:50
  It's just the way it is in the life right now, boys.
• 22:53
  Jon: I,
• 22:54
  Kearns: but I was impressed by how good the movie is.
• 22:57
  Jon: so the special makeup editor was John CAG Leone Jr.
• 23:01
  Ryan: Okay.
• 23:02
  Kearns: Ooh, John Italian
• 23:04
  Got it.
• 23:05
  Ryan: was, he's amazing.
• 23:06
  I does it like, I feel like it's very, at that time I guess the
• 23:11
  hottest designer was Tom Sini.
• 23:14
  very, he's, he could have given him a run for his money.
• 23:18
  I don't know what other
• 23:19
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 23:19
  Ryan: he did, but,
• 23:21
  Jon: Savini, Greg Nicotero, guys like that.
• 23:24
  Yeah.
• 23:25
  Ryan: in that wheelhouse.
• 23:27
  Jon: Interestingly, guys who came from the Romero tree.
• 23:31
  Kearns: Oh boy.
• 23:33
  Ryan: Everyone comes from the
• 23:35
  Kearns: Oh boy.
• 23:36
  was gonna say,
• 23:37
  Ryan: craven tree, or the carpenter tree.
• 23:39
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 23:40
  all the ones that are worth something.
• 23:42
  Uh, actually no, there's a different, there's different era now.
• 23:45
  Jon: yeah.
• 23:47
  Kearns: we've got a few big upstarts going on now.
• 23:49
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 23:49
  We do
• 23:51
  Kearns: It's not even, uh, directors that people are following.
• 23:54
  It's, it's publishing houses like neon and stuff like that.
• 23:57
  And eight, what is it?
• 23:58
  8 32
• 23:58
  Jon: A 24.
• 24:00
  Yeah.
• 24:00
  Kearns: 24.
• 24:01
  Jon: Blumhouse and.
• 24:03
  Kearns: Yep.
• 24:04
  It's like, oh, I wanna see the Blum House movie instead of gotta go see the
• 24:08
  flick.
• 24:08
  Jon: you 13?
• 24:10
  Kearns: Uh, no.
• 24:12
  Is that, is that a lot, is that rated R
• 24:16
  Jon: I think a lot of Blumhouse is PG 13 and kind of looks that way.
• 24:23
  Ryan: If you want,
• 24:24
  Jon: Feels that way.
• 24:25
  Ryan: you want good whore,
• 24:27
  Kearns: Interesting.
• 24:27
  Ryan: with like, I feel a 24 or neon.
• 24:30
  Kearns: Which one did Barbarian?
• 24:32
  was a 24
• 24:33
  Ryan: thought that was neon.
• 24:35
  Kearns: it neither?
• 24:36
  It might be now.
• 24:37
  Ryan: you,
• 24:37
  Jon: It might be neither.
• 24:38
  Ryan: if you guys know
• 24:40
  Kearns: it might be let,
• 24:40
  Ryan: if you listeners know, put it in the comments we'd like to know
• 24:44
  and also like sharing, subscribe.
• 24:49
  Kearns: um,
• 24:50
  Ryan: plug in there.
• 24:51
  Jon: Let's do what you did there.
• 24:52
  Kearns: I was gonna, I was gonna say it, but now I'm not going to tell us
• 24:58
  because I'm not looking at it right now.
• 25:00
  Ryan: We're gonna find out after
• 25:02
  Kearns: but I will say this, A 24 did pass on producing barbarian during
• 25:08
  pre-production, and Neon did too.
• 25:11
  So it's neither of those two, so I can't say that much.
• 25:15
  both passed on the movie.
• 25:17
  Ryan: move because that movie was really good.
• 25:19
  I, I like
• 25:20
  Kearns: Oh, cool.
• 25:21
  There's three studios.
• 25:23
  Maybe they can tell us more about those studios.
• 25:25
  'cause I haven't heard much about them, but, alright, so back to
• 25:30
  Jon: Back to sh.
• 25:31
  Kearns: So yeah, if you're looking for that vibe, that like original Batman
• 25:35
  sort of feel in when you're watching a movie, uh, a story that's not too
• 25:41
  serious, but more serious than a b horror movie and well flushed out.
• 25:45
  It's just a good watch, good hang.
• 25:47
  And I like the, culminating sort of, you know, issues and things like that, that
• 25:52
  they run into aware if you're watching it, like we watch movies, you're aware of the
• 25:56
  underpinning of like a theme of humanity
• 25:58
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 26:00
  Kearns: that these people aren't trash, these homeless people are people.
• 26:03
  Um, does Cooper ever come to that realization?
• 26:06
  Do you ever feel like Cooper ever cares about the homeless?
• 26:08
  Jon: I think he cares from the start, sort of like, maybe not as deeply as aj.
• 26:15
  Uh, I don't know that anybody, 'cause it's, it quickly is
• 26:19
  apparent that AJ is not.
• 26:22
  Running some kind of scam with his soup kitchen.
• 26:24
  Like this is something he's really invested in doing.
• 26:29
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 26:29
  Ryan: redemption arc. And I wanna say I agree.
• 26:32
  I do feel George has more of a heart for the homeless.
• 26:35
  'cause while he's doing the photo shoot, he leaves halfway to go
• 26:39
  bail out, um, the homeless woman.
• 26:43
  Jon: Yeah.
• 26:44
  Ryan: I, I feel like he, maybe he's grown more of a connection by
• 26:48
  taking photographs of them and like, just kind of feeling their pain.
• 26:52
  Like the idea of like, you're going to war, you take the photos of the
• 26:54
  war torn soldiers and you kinda.
• 26:57
  Embrace and feel what they're feeling.
• 27:00
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:01
  a cynic would say he bailed her out because she can lead him
• 27:05
  to the photos he needs to take.
• 27:07
  Ryan: Touche.
• 27:08
  Touche.
• 27:08
  Cooper, you
• 27:09
  Jon: I,
• 27:09
  Ryan: of a bitch.
• 27:11
  Jon: I think he does have some level of empathy for the people he's photographing.
• 27:17
  Kearns: Yeah, I think you're right.
• 27:18
  and it comes through in some weird way that I can't identify in the movie
• 27:22
  because his character is so, like, nah, I really don't give a shit about anything.
• 27:26
  But you feel for some reason that he's into them, uh, less privileged in some
• 27:31
  way just be based on his actions and that, like, that's what he's focused
• 27:35
  So it's cool.
• 27:37
  Let's get into some of the cool deaths.
• 27:39
  I wanna hear some CHD murders.
• 27:41
  Jon: Oh man.
• 27:42
  Kearns: Let's see.
• 27:43
  Uh, we got the, we got the starting boxes.
• 27:46
  We got the wife and the doggy.
• 27:48
  We got, what's the next, uh, good CHD kill
• 27:51
  Ryan: it grandpa?
• 27:52
  I'm trying to remember if it's grandpa
• 27:54
  Kearns: is grandpa number three.
• 27:56
  Jon: Trying to remember number three too.
• 27:58
  Ryan: he number four?
• 28:02
  I I think
• 28:02
  Kearns: I don't know.
• 28:03
  Ryan: number three.
• 28:05
  Jon: I think grandpa's three also.
• 28:07
  Ryan: He, thought it
• 28:08
  Kearns: three.
• 28:10
  Ryan: 'cause even in the trailer it depicts that it's
• 28:13
  like father and daughter.
• 28:14
  It, it
• 28:15
  Jon: Yeah.
• 28:16
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 28:16
  Ryan: worse turn when you find out it's grandfather and granddaughter.
• 28:19
  And she watches it happen.
• 28:23
  She,
• 28:23
  Jon: yeah,
• 28:24
  Kearns: Sucks.
• 28:25
  Jon: That, and that's sort of,
• 28:28
  Kearns: memories.
• 28:29
  Jon: that's the death that shakes Bosch from going along with the police coverup
• 28:35
  Ryan: yes.
• 28:35
  Jon: what's going on.
• 28:37
  You know, that that's the one I, you know, maybe it's talking to the little
• 28:41
  girl, maybe it's the added to his wife and everything else, but that's when
• 28:46
  he's like, no, we're, I'm not covering this up anymore and I want a meeting.
• 28:51
  Ryan: Yep.
• 28:51
  And,
• 28:52
  Jon: want the commissioner,
• 28:53
  Ryan: and that leads to them
• 28:55
  Kearns: Get the K out.
• 28:56
  Ryan: what?
• 28:56
  Michael Chila, the
• 28:59
  Kearns: exactly.
• 29:00
  Jon: Michael Chi.
• 29:01
  Ryan: Chi.
• 29:03
  But that leads them to
• 29:05
  Kearns: make
• 29:05
  Ryan: uh,
• 29:07
  Kearns: the thing.
• 29:07
  Ryan: that they meet, uh, Wilson, who, that's like, I did not like his character.
• 29:13
  I couldn't wait for something bad to happen to him.
• 29:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:16
  Ryan: regardless, he
• 29:17
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 29:18
  Ryan: the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
• 29:20
  He feels like a, a snobbish.
• 29:22
  He is a snobbish asshole, actually.
• 29:24
  And reveal all the proof.
• 29:28
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:29
  Ryan: um, Bosch, because they collected, I guess a shoe, a shoe went missing,
• 29:34
  from one of one of the teams who got, I guess, eaten by one of the chuts,
• 29:38
  uh, before the events of the movie.
• 29:40
  They have, the scanner as we were talking about, and I forgot what
• 29:44
  else they had, but it was all in this like makeshift paper bag.
• 29:48
  Wilson still debates with them
• 29:51
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:53
  Ryan: the fo the, the file that he's been disposing the Waste, which is
• 29:57
  also known as Contamination Hazard Urban Disposal, which is a shittier
• 30:05
  that, that's just a crappy name.
• 30:06
  We gotta go with the
• 30:07
  Jon: Yeah, I mean, listen, when when your project ends with urban disposal,
• 30:14
  you're probably doing the wrong thing.
• 30:16
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 30:17
  Jon: It's probably not where you should be disposing of anything.
• 30:20
  There's people there.
• 30:22
  Kearns: I mean, the premise of that is, is really dumb.
• 30:25
  'cause they don't, they would never, they would never put nuclear waste
• 30:29
  under, uh, in the sewers of New York
• 30:31
  Jon: No.
• 30:32
  Kearns: No.
• 30:33
  Jon: You confident about that?
• 30:36
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 30:37
  Jon: I don't know if I am.
• 30:38
  Ryan: going with on this one.
• 30:39
  I, I,
• 30:40
  Jon: I don't.
• 30:41
  I don't know that they wouldn't.
• 30:43
  Kearns: for Human Experiment?
• 30:45
  Yes, but don't believe that they bury it in, they bury it underground in, in
• 30:51
  remote rural locations and then allow it to seep into the groundwater out there.
• 30:54
  Jon: Well, if, if I'm not mistaken, this was just sort of like a, a
• 30:58
  transition point for the chemicals.
• 31:01
  Ryan: No, you're right.
• 31:02
  Kearns: Oh, I
• 31:02
  Jon: were, they were gonna go somewhere else and
• 31:05
  Ryan: They didn't get the right paperwork of, of course, plot point right
• 31:10
  Jon: Yeah.
• 31:11
  Ryan: so we couldn't move it legally.
• 31:13
  So we illegally held it underground
• 31:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:18
  Ryan: and then,
• 31:18
  Jon: Yeah.
• 31:18
  Wilson is the character who will give you just enough information
• 31:24
  he has to tell you more, he, it's still not gonna be every, and he
• 31:29
  does this, like every scene he's in.
• 31:30
  It's just, I'll give you this much,
• 31:34
  Ryan: that's so
• 31:34
  Jon: give you this much.
• 31:36
  Ryan: so great.
• 31:36
  'cause that's what makes you hate him.
• 31:38
  I don't think I've hated a character
• 31:39
  Jon: Yeah.
• 31:40
  Ryan: in a long while watching movies and I despised him, you
• 31:45
  Jon: he's very, everything about him is very easy to dislike.
• 31:50
  Like even the look like he's got that kind of like eighties
• 31:55
  villain schmuck look, you know,
• 32:01
  Kearns: a very different, like everybody listening who heard you say that should
• 32:04
  have that image in their head right now.
• 32:06
  Jon: it's the guy from, um, Ghostbusters, he's that same
• 32:10
  character, the one that Wegman calls Dickless, like, he's the same,
• 32:14
  Kearns: favorite.
• 32:15
  Jon: same, could be the same actor.
• 32:17
  It's not, but it could be.
• 32:18
  It's like that same character type.
• 32:21
  Ryan: worked out so great.
• 32:22
  'cause he was also in
• 32:23
  Kearns: The,
• 32:24
  Ryan: as the reporter.
• 32:25
  He gets his ass kicked by,
• 32:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 32:27
  Ryan: McLean's wife in that one.
• 32:30
  Jon: Yep.
• 32:30
  Kearns: yeah.
• 32:31
  True.
• 32:32
  The last iterations of that archetype of like that face, wearing the
• 32:36
  suit and all that is the, um, is the Happy Gilmore antagonist?
• 32:41
  No, not Happy Gilmore.
• 32:42
  Um, Billy Madison antagonist.
• 32:44
  that
• 32:45
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 32:45
  Mm-hmm.
• 32:46
  Kearns: Whether yeah.
• 32:47
  You guys see him, you're like, yep.
• 32:48
  Same dude.
• 32:49
  Jon: Yeah.
• 32:50
  Yeah.
• 32:50
  You know, three piece suit that's gray, you know, looks
• 32:55
  expensive, but probably isn't
• 32:59
  Kearns: Right?
• 32:59
  Jon: the smugness on the face, you know, even the hair type, you know, it's,
• 33:03
  Kearns: Yep.
• 33:05
  Ryan: the fall.
• 33:06
  Kearns: back.
• 33:06
  Sometimes like a little frayed and thinning.
• 33:10
  Douche.
• 33:12
  Yeah.
• 33:13
  your hair.
• 33:14
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 33:15
  Kearns: All right.
• 33:16
  what does CHD stand for?
• 33:17
  What's the cooler?
• 33:18
  Chd, I got that by CHD today.
• 33:21
  By the way, John, we didn't know.
• 33:24
  We didn't know.
• 33:24
  I got Shutted today.
• 33:26
  Jon: I didn't,
• 33:26
  Ryan: did
• 33:27
  Kearns: Should show.
• 33:28
  I don't know if it'll come.
• 33:28
  Oh, you can see it.
• 33:30
  You see it in my birthmark there?
• 33:32
  Ryan: got cannibalistic
• 33:33
  Jon: yeah.
• 33:33
  Kearns: through?
• 33:34
  Ryan: dweller syndrome now.
• 33:36
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 33:39
  I should mark.
• 33:40
  Jon: Yeah, we're gonna have to watch for your transformation.
• 33:43
  Kearns: I was thinking the same thing.
• 33:45
  I might use video three to make a video of it.
• 33:49
  Ryan: Just
• 33:49
  Kearns: Just have me forming,
• 33:52
  Ryan: which I
• 33:53
  Kearns: but
• 33:53
  Ryan: that was pretty cool 'cause I was thinking about that.
• 33:56
  Like, how do they get created?
• 33:58
  Is it because of the chemicals they got, they interacted with them, or is it
• 34:02
  through bite mark and it, a cool little transformation when you see Victor.
• 34:08
  Was it Victor?
• 34:09
  Jon: Victor?
• 34:10
  Ryan: All
• 34:10
  Jon: Yep.
• 34:11
  Ryan: Um, when
• 34:11
  Jon: I.
• 34:11
  Ryan: starts transforming later on in the movie, it was
• 34:15
  a pretty cool transformation.
• 34:16
  It reminded me of Universal werewolf, like the Wolf Man minus the hair, just
• 34:22
  like the face and like, um, very Wolf Man
• 34:25
  Kearns: yeah.
• 34:26
  Ryan: But that was, that was pretty cool.
• 34:28
  So like bite marks not like 28 days later where saliva or Juul
• 34:34
  or anything can turn 'em, it's just bite marks that can turn 'em.
• 34:38
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 34:39
  Kearns: What's interesting about it is I was like, okay, so this isn't a
• 34:42
  zombie, and how did they keep the CHD from falling into the zombie category
• 34:47
  though, because it isn't a zombie, and I know we all feel the same way.
• 34:50
  We didn't even have to talk about it ahead of
• 34:52
  But what makes a chd like a CHD is more like the things in descent
• 34:57
  like that.
• 34:58
  like, how is, and those are, they don't spread it through biting.
• 35:01
  They're just freakish, evolved weirdo things.
• 35:05
  Um, but CHUs are, CHUs get it from a bite, which is like, okay, it's
• 35:08
  a zombie or a vampire, but they're
• 35:11
  closer to a ghoul.
• 35:12
  Jon: there, yeah, there I would, I would almost put them goul and werewolf.
• 35:20
  Ryan: Yeah, I see that
• 35:21
  Jon: It's they.
• 35:23
  Kearns: A GRE wolf,
• 35:24
  Jon: Yeah.
• 35:24
  Yeah.
• 35:25
  Kearns: A quad,
• 35:27
  Jon: A wool,
• 35:29
  Kearns: a w, a wood.
• 35:30
  All right.
• 35:31
  They're just shut.
• 35:32
  But yeah.
• 35:33
  your finger on what keeps them out of that category?
• 35:37
  'cause it's totally not, they're totally nos zombies, obviously.
• 35:41
  Jon: because they're not, they're humanoid.
• 35:44
  After they're not
• 35:46
  Kearns: There it is.
• 35:47
  Jon: they become something different.
• 35:50
  Whereas for me, zombies are just dead people.
• 35:54
  Kearns: Okay.
• 35:56
  Fair enough.
• 35:57
  Oh, the just change is coming.
• 36:01
  Ryan: you are turning,
• 36:02
  Kearns: I'm glad you guys got that.
• 36:03
  Ryan: sir.
• 36:03
  Kearns: all right.
• 36:04
  So how do we beat these bastards?
• 36:06
  the climax.
• 36:07
  Jon: plan one is we're gonna send a team down.
• 36:10
  The NRC is gonna send a team down
• 36:13
  Ryan: Yep.
• 36:14
  Jon: to eliminate the Chds
• 36:17
  Ryan: off,
• 36:17
  Jon: Bosch.
• 36:18
  Ryan: their,
• 36:19
  Kearns: Which is the American one?
• 36:21
  Ryan: a camera.
• 36:22
  It just a
• 36:23
  Jon: Yeah,
• 36:24
  Ryan: camera.
• 36:25
  That's, that's their
• 36:26
  Jon: yeah.
• 36:27
  and Bosch takes it on himself, unbeknownst to Wilson, to send, his own team down
• 36:32
  there with them with flame throwers,
• 36:35
  Kearns: Ah, a little thing.
• 36:36
  Action.
• 36:37
  Okay.
• 36:37
  Jon: which, which you know, would seem like it would work, except it doesn't,
• 36:41
  Kearns: Why are they impervious to the flame throwers, John?
• 36:44
  Jon: I mean, they really don't even get a chance to use the flame thrower.
• 36:48
  Yeah.
• 36:49
  Kearns: That's why.
• 36:50
  Ryan: I thought they did.
• 36:52
  No.
• 36:52
  Jon: I mean it.
• 36:54
  Kearns: I think they spray
• 36:54
  Jon: It's bras like, but more of that like panic fire than
• 36:59
  Ryan: Okay.
• 37:00
  Jon: con controlled.
• 37:02
  Yeah.
• 37:02
  Ryan: I thought they were walking
• 37:04
  Kearns: Sight.
• 37:05
  Ryan: um, when, 'cause I thought they were shooting and they were walking
• 37:08
  through the flames showing that fire didn't affect them, which I.
• 37:12
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:13
  Ryan: Either way, it's, that's a nice little twist.
• 37:15
  So it shows them that they are somewhat indestructible,
• 37:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:21
  Kearns: they slimy?
• 37:22
  Ryan: they
• 37:22
  Jon: They look pretty slimy.
• 37:24
  Kearns: So if they're slimy, you get the salamander effects where they
• 37:27
  always say that salamanders are immune
• 37:28
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:29
  Kearns: which isn't true.
• 37:30
  You put a flame on a salamander long enough, it'll dry up
• 37:33
  the slime and it'll burn.
• 37:34
  But if you hit it with a, it'll just crawl away right after
• 37:39
  it has enough slime.
• 37:41
  So that could be it.
• 37:43
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:43
  Ryan: Okay.
• 37:44
  Kearns: why in Fahrenheit 4 51, the salamander is the, uh, is the symbol.
• 37:50
  Ryan: Such a good
• 37:51
  Kearns: The hearth and the salamander.
• 37:52
  Anyway, sorry.
• 37:55
  Moving on from being a nerd back to jus
• 37:57
  Ryan: not, not being a nerd man.
• 37:59
  Fahrenheit four 50 one's amazing.
• 38:01
  Kearns: we taught them all summer in a day in summer school.
• 38:03
  Uh, another Ray Bradbury story, and it, it landed so hard.
• 38:07
  I gotta give you that one.
• 38:08
  Ryan: it the one with the house?
• 38:11
  I.
• 38:11
  Kearns: That's a different one.
• 38:12
  That's my favorite Bradbury Short, uh, by far.
• 38:15
  Yeah.
• 38:15
  That one's, um, oh God, I can't remember the name.
• 38:18
  It comes soft res.
• 38:20
  Ryan: That's so
• 38:21
  Kearns: Um, that's the, the house af the automated house
• 38:24
  after the nuclear apocalypse.
• 38:26
  That's a cool one.
• 38:27
  Ryan: And the cartoon, the
• 38:28
  Kearns: But
• 38:29
  Ryan: is freaky.
• 38:30
  Just saying
• 38:31
  Kearns: yeah, that was like way too, way too hard for those kids.
• 38:35
  That was way too metal It reminded me of heavy metal actually.
• 38:40
  Ryan: same animation, but with these chds,
• 38:45
  Kearns: With, yeah.
• 38:45
  Back to CHUs.
• 38:47
  Ryan: plan, Wilson's plan is to basically gas them.
• 38:52
  Jon: Yep.
• 38:52
  Ryan: And at the same time, the reverend, he's on his own journey, right?
• 38:58
  He gets trapped by one of
• 39:01
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 39:02
  Ryan: underground
• 39:03
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:04
  Ryan: can get rid of basically the evidence in the reverend having this
• 39:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:09
  Yep.
• 39:09
  Ryan: Locking him underground basically.
• 39:11
  In his cellar.
• 39:12
  Yeah, his cellar basically.
• 39:14
  Jon: Yeah.
• 39:15
  His, the seller to the soup kitchen.
• 39:18
  Leads into the tunnels.
• 39:19
  Ryan: It's gotta be cool.
• 39:21
  Kearns: There you have it.
• 39:21
  Ryan: Trying to grab some macaroni
• 39:23
  Kearns: There's always a connection.
• 39:24
  So, yeah, I was gonna say, there's always a connecting
• 39:26
  tunnel or something like that.
• 39:29
  It's not like there are people that are living in tunnels under New York City,
• 39:32
  Jon: No,
• 39:33
  Ryan: North Chicago.
• 39:35
  Jon: no.
• 39:35
  Kearns: or is it, are we too, are we too far out of that, uh, story
• 39:38
  for people to get the reference?
• 39:40
  Ryan: no, I was just talking about that with Jada.
• 39:43
  Kearns: There were he people who were building who would build tunnels under
• 39:46
  synagogues, and so they could move around people were like, I hear people,
• 39:52
  uh, downstairs below my apartment.
• 39:53
  And the cops were like, you're an idiot.
• 39:55
  And there were, there were dudes down there.
• 39:57
  People down there.
• 39:59
  Under the, under the ground.
• 40:00
  Jon: Yep.
• 40:00
  Ryan: we were, uh.
• 40:02
  Kearns: Oh boy.
• 40:02
  Ryan: about how like there's like different paths.
• 40:04
  There's different like connected with the Underground Railroad and
• 40:08
  how there's also like abandoned train stations down there, subway stations and
• 40:13
  Kearns: I've been there.
• 40:14
  I've been to those.
• 40:16
  worked the subways of New York City, um, about three times in five week, rounds.
• 40:20
  And I've been to the under subway,
• 40:23
  like the, you know, the scene in Ghostbusters too.
• 40:27
  So what they saw, I didn't see, but I climbed down like an 80 foot ladder
• 40:31
  and it was super warm in winter
• 40:34
  down there.
• 40:36
  There was no pink goo, but it was the old, it was the old tunnels.
• 40:40
  Ryan: That's
• 40:41
  Kearns: Now, I don't know if they were using it for an aqueduct or
• 40:44
  a subway, 'cause I didn't see any tracks, but I was, I was like very
• 40:48
  far under the ground, under the city.
• 40:50
  And when we did the subways, I would see cool stuff all the time.
• 40:53
  There was one dude who built a house out of VHS tapes.
• 40:57
  like used them like bricks
• 40:59
  Ryan: Yes.
• 41:01
  Kearns: The tracks went through a switch and then a frog, like split like this.
• 41:04
  And in the middle was a triangle with two pillars.
• 41:07
  And he used those to brick up one wall and then bricked up
• 41:10
  another two on the other side.
• 41:12
  And he had this wedge shaped little
• 41:15
  Ryan: Yep.
• 41:15
  Kearns: and he was just chilling there.
• 41:16
  Ryan: That was from, uh, you mentioned it in episode three when we talked about, um,
• 41:21
  Kearns: I
• 41:23
  Ryan: the, the chicken eggs in a basket.
• 41:26
  Kearns: think he's in a basket.
• 41:27
  Oh, from V for
• 41:28
  Jon: Zoology.
• 41:30
  Ryan: So
• 41:30
  Kearns: Oh, okay.
• 41:31
  Ryan: out that episode, guys.
• 41:32
  You can hear more about that fortress
• 41:35
  Kearns: Zoology.
• 41:35
  Wow.
• 41:36
  You remembered the episode.
• 41:37
  I referenced that in,
• 41:38
  Ryan: listen, I'm,
• 41:40
  Kearns: that's wild dude.
• 41:42
  That's, well,
• 41:42
  Ryan: I'm like trying to be the Ed McMahon.
• 41:44
  I have a good memory.
• 41:45
  All right.
• 41:47
  Kearns: that's,
• 41:48
  Jon: You are gonna go to people's houses with fake checks.
• 41:52
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 41:53
  Ryan: Is, is
• 41:54
  Kearns: Won Publish his clearing house.
• 41:56
  Ryan: that we
• 41:56
  Jon: Hey, doc, yourself in the comments, we'll send Brian,
• 42:00
  uh, Ryan with a big fake check.
• 42:03
  Kearns: you go.
• 42:04
  Jon: we have our cast spread all over the place at this point too.
• 42:08
  Ryan: like pre
• 42:09
  Jon: We have.
• 42:11
  Yeah, we, we have George off on a quest to recover stolen photographs that
• 42:16
  he thinks this sleazy reporter took.
• 42:18
  Lauren's doing stuff in her apartment.
• 42:21
  AJ's trapped in the tunnels and Bosch is trying to resolve the Chds.
• 42:27
  Ryan: While arguing with Wilson the entire time.
• 42:30
  Jon: Yeah.
• 42:30
  Yeah.
• 42:32
  Kearns: And what happens next, guys?
• 42:34
  Ryan: Well, Cooper's reporter gets eaten by a chd, so Cooper
• 42:39
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 42:39
  Ryan: left alone and him and AJ Unite.
• 42:43
  At some point, Lauren, she gets attacked by a chd, a CHD
• 42:47
  crashes through her apartment.
• 42:49
  Poor woman's crying and asking for help and no one's helping her.
• 42:53
  And uh, I'm trying to Does do they?
• 42:57
  Kearns: Does she get eight or does she get outta that
• 42:59
  Jon: He escapes.
• 43:00
  Ryan: okay.
• 43:01
  Jon: neighbors are not so lucky.
• 43:03
  Ryan: Oh, hold
• 43:04
  Kearns: the old distract them with the neighbors.
• 43:06
  Got
• 43:06
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 43:07
  Ryan: so the Chd got the kid and the, the mom.
• 43:10
  Jon: I mean, he, it got into the apartment.
• 43:12
  There's no reason to believe that it didn't get the child and the mom
• 43:17
  Ryan: edge for that scene 'cause you see the doorknocking and I'm
• 43:19
  like, she's gonna open that door
• 43:21
  Jon: uhhuh.
• 43:21
  Ryan: going and you just keep seeing her
• 43:23
  Jon: Yep.
• 43:23
  Ryan: back and forth.
• 43:24
  It was really good suspense.
• 43:27
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 43:27
  Ryan: the door crashes through, game over, over.
• 43:33
  I thought
• 43:34
  Kearns: All right.
• 43:35
  We got some good sh chomp in action details.
• 43:39
  Let's hit, uh, what happened to John Goodman.
• 43:41
  John Goodman plays a cop that walks into a diner with some swagger,
• 43:46
  some,
• 43:47
  only, only the kind of swagger you can have.
• 43:50
  That's John Goodman
• 43:51
  Jon: Yeah, so this is the scene that sets up a sequel.
• 43:57
  You get a diner full of people, including police officer John Goodman,
• 44:02
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 44:03
  Jon: and we, we've come, we've seen what should be the end of the chds.
• 44:09
  They've been gased, they've been killed.
• 44:11
  Wilson's gone and the Chds are not really gone.
• 44:15
  They crash into the diner and
• 44:19
  they have a meal.
• 44:19
  Ryan: Oh yeah, they do.
• 44:20
  Kearns: Well, why can't we get the real CHD too with John Goodman?
• 44:25
  Ryan: Because he was,
• 44:26
  Kearns: Right?
• 44:26
  But he's like old.
• 44:27
  He's old Shd.
• 44:27
  Ryan: I was gonna make I'd, I'd rather see a sequel to Arachnophobia,
• 44:32
  sir. wanna see him dancing.
• 44:34
  Kearns: I mean, me too.
• 44:35
  Me too, for sure.
• 44:38
  But right,
• 44:39
  that's the end of
• 44:41
  Jon: Yeah.
• 44:41
  Kearns: one.
• 44:42
  There is a CHD two.
• 44:43
  We've already established that it's got nothing to do with CHD one chd,
• 44:46
  Ryan: No.
• 44:47
  Kearns: not CHD one, just chd.
• 44:48
  Jon: It's nowhere near as good either.
• 44:50
  It's,
• 44:51
  Kearns: And it really is a good movie.
• 44:52
  Jon: it's fun.
• 44:53
  CHD two is fun, but it's not good.
• 44:56
  Kearns: I mean, Chu Chu is a really good movie, but I
• 44:58
  Jon: CHD is amazing.
• 45:00
  Kearns: a very pleasant surprise.
• 45:01
  I was
• 45:02
  that type of eighties nostalgia.
• 45:05
  Um, with regard to like the filmmaking, with regard to how the
• 45:08
  movie's made, how people, I forgot how they used to tell a story.
• 45:11
  And I
• 45:12
  I like the pacing and how it resonates.
• 45:14
  This expense building, the little 15 second shots they take to
• 45:19
  make it, you know, do it with fidelity that's not here anymore.
• 45:24
  is sort of toed up and it's all too quick.
• 45:28
  quick, quick
• 45:29
  Jon: Yep.
• 45:29
  Kearns: changes.
• 45:30
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:32
  Kearns: it was nice to go back to the old
• 45:34
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:34
  Chd is Paste like an eighties movie.
• 45:37
  It doesn't need the action scene every five or 10 minutes to keep your attention.
• 45:44
  It.
• 45:45
  I mean, just that scene with the commissioner and Bosch and AJ and Wilson
• 45:52
  is, that's a good five to 10 minute scene.
• 45:56
  Ryan: And it keeps your attention 'cause it's just the
• 45:58
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:59
  Ryan: it's also the actors and how
• 46:01
  Jon: Oh, it's absolutely the acting, that scene is so well acted.
• 46:05
  Ryan: And um, you guys might not know, um, I'm a big fan of Lois and Clark,
• 46:10
  uh, the New Adventures of Superman, Dean Kane, Terry Hatcher Clark,
• 46:14
  Ken's father is the chief, I think.
• 46:18
  So that was pretty cool to see him in something else.
• 46:21
  And it just
• 46:22
  Kearns: No.
• 46:22
  Okay.
• 46:23
  Ryan: he's got, 'cause he's a nice guy in the, the series.
• 46:26
  He's got an attitude.
• 46:27
  He's at.
• 46:28
  Jerk.
• 46:29
  And it was nice to see some of these, like Daniel Stern playing, like being
• 46:33
  very young and like his, one of his first roles and just kind of working
• 46:38
  like the redemption arc and just giving these actors challenges and to
• 46:43
  showcase their acting abilities in a Be Horror movie was pretty cool they, they
• 46:48
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 46:48
  Ryan: I feel like
• 46:49
  Kearns: Okay.
• 46:49
  Ryan: their heart into it.
• 46:51
  I mean, every movie we watch, they do.
• 46:53
  But this one, I feel it was different.
• 46:55
  It was a
• 46:56
  Jon: Yeah.
• 46:57
  Ryan: B movie with an a movie vibe.
• 47:00
  That makes sense.
• 47:01
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 47:03
  Kearns: feel bad calling it a B-movie at all.
• 47:05
  I really do think it's a step above,
• 47:06
  Jon: Yeah,
• 47:08
  Ryan: I,
• 47:09
  Kearns: like it's just,
• 47:10
  Jon: I mean, it, it's, it's really only b because of budget.
• 47:14
  Like
• 47:15
  Kearns: yeah.
• 47:15
  I.
• 47:15
  Jon: doesn't, it's not a big budget movie,
• 47:18
  Kearns: We've talked about many of those that are amazing films,
• 47:24
  Jon: and we have more on tap
• 47:25
  Ryan: Oh yeah, we
• 47:26
  Kearns: Yep, exactly.
• 47:28
  gotta be a million.
• 47:28
  Ryan: excited for next week's episode.
• 47:31
  All right.
• 47:33
  Kearns: Tell the listeners what that is so we can edit it out when we switch it up.
• 47:36
  Ryan: Oh, no, no.
• 47:37
  We're definitely going forward with Sleepaway Camp.
• 47:39
  It just fits with the
• 47:40
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 47:41
  Ryan: and Dons.
• 47:42
  Kearns: yeah.
• 47:44
  And uh, yeah,
• 47:45
  Jon: spoilers.
• 47:46
  Kearns: All right guys.
• 47:48
  Uh, yeah, we hold the dogs for you, but, um, all right guys, that was chu.
• 47:51
  Definitely give it a watch if you haven't already, but you totally
• 47:54
  should have before you listen to this,
• 47:55
  we're gonna get into our top fives.
• 47:58
  Jon: there's a really awesome set from Arrow for Chu a really, they did a really
• 48:03
  nice job with, I think it's getting a 4K later this year if it's not already out,
• 48:10
  but there's definitely a, a really nice Blu-ray version of it that's available.
• 48:14
  Ryan: will be added to my
• 48:15
  Kearns: Nice, and then
• 48:17
  it's pretty cheap on the streamers.
• 48:19
  Ryan: say, I paid 2 99 through Amazon.
• 48:21
  I rented it and it was the best 2 99 I've ever spent.
• 48:24
  I, will admit that.
• 48:27
  you were
• 48:28
  Kearns: You never got a bacon or ketchup, salt pepper back in?
• 48:31
  Oh, let's say 2 99, back in, I don't know, 1999
• 48:36
  would be around that price.
• 48:37
  Probably a little cheaper in 99.
• 48:38
  Actually.
• 48:39
  Ryan: a bacon, egg, and cheese recently, and it was delicious.
• 48:44
  not doxing us,
• 48:46
  Kearns: Better then.
• 48:47
  Ryan: I got it from because that would definitely dox us and I'm not doxing
• 48:51
  Kearns: Anyway.
• 48:52
  Ryan: anyway, so.
• 48:53
  Kearns: Let's do tops.
• 48:54
  Ryan: I went different with my top fives.
• 48:57
  I went trivial on this one and I went trivial because we talked about
• 49:02
  earlier, John Goodman, this is one of John Goodman's earliest roles.
• 49:06
  And I went on to like a research type deal of finding out certain actors
• 49:11
  that I have a lot of respect for who I didn't know were in horror films, who
• 49:15
  I didn't know were in horror films.
• 49:17
  And these were like basically their first roles.
• 49:20
  So I thought changing it up, do a little trivia, top five.
• 49:24
  And for number five, I'm
• 49:25
  Jon: All right.
• 49:25
  Ryan: with, in his second ever appearance in film.
• 49:29
  monkey Shines.
• 49:30
  That's Stephen Root.
• 49:32
  I dunno if you guys are familiar with Steven Root.
• 49:34
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 49:35
  Ryan: No.
• 49:36
  He, have you seen office space that you guys My stapler,
• 49:39
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 49:41
  Oh, that's him.
• 49:42
  Okay.
• 49:42
  Ryan: he's an amazing actor.
• 49:44
  His second appearance in any film was, um, monkey Shines, which we've
• 49:48
  mentioned before in the podcast.
• 49:51
  Um, basically follows a young athlete who becomes paralyzed quad quadriplegic
• 49:56
  and develops a bond with an intelligence service monkey named Ella who becomes
• 49:59
  homicidal after she's injected.
• 50:01
  When the experimental serum of human brain tissue.
• 50:07
  I know.
• 50:07
  Kearns: Sounds like a quality watch.
• 50:08
  Ryan: a fam it's a family movie that I definitely recommend on
• 50:11
  Christmas, along with Schindler's
• 50:13
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 50:14
  you go.
• 50:14
  Jon: Who directed that?
• 50:16
  Ryan: Uh, George A. Romero.
• 50:19
  Also the screenplay
• 50:21
  Jon: sir.
• 50:21
  Ryan: George A. Romero.
• 50:24
  Kearns: Nice.
• 50:25
  Jon: Yes, sir. You know, I'm not gonna let George a slip through.
• 50:28
  Ryan: John's gonna, you, you know what John, this is, I'm gonna like
• 50:31
  pull on your heartstrings tonight because my number four is the stuff
• 50:37
  it has from a second appearance.
• 50:41
  Patrick Dempsey, who you guys can check out in the new film, new horror
• 50:46
  film, somewhat Thanksgiving, which should be coming out with a sequel
• 50:49
  either this year or next year,
• 50:51
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 50:52
  Ryan: will be a part of too.
• 50:53
  But that was, uh, Patrick Dempsey's, uh, second film.
• 50:57
  And again, we've talked about this stuff I on our list this year too, maybe,
• 51:03
  Jon: he, uh, he was also, was he, was he Mc Steamy or McDreamy, or
• 51:11
  Ryan: I think.
• 51:11
  Kearns: on the on
• 51:13
  Jon: Grey's Anatomy,
• 51:14
  Ryan: Mc steamy,
• 51:15
  Jon: he?
• 51:15
  Ryan: MC steamy, MC steamy and McDreamy.
• 51:20
  Jon: I can't, I'm ashamed that I know those two names.
• 51:24
  Ryan: You know what, that was so much in pop culture.
• 51:26
  Kearns: I was gonna weigh in, but I, I decided against
• 51:29
  it just to keep my anonymity
• 51:31
  Ryan: how many seasons deep
• 51:32
  Jon: I've never.
• 51:33
  Kearns: Raz.
• 51:33
  That
• 51:35
  Jon: I've watched zero episodes.
• 51:37
  I just know that from all the hype.
• 51:40
  Kearns: Yeah, there was, there was plenty of that annoying shit going on back then.
• 51:44
  Ryan: TikTok?
• 51:44
  TikTok Bait?
• 51:45
  That's everywhere.
• 51:48
  Grey Anatomy episodes, clips, and I'm like, give me a break.
• 51:52
  I just want horror.
• 51:53
  And it leads me to number three and
• 51:56
  Kearns: You built that algorithm.
• 51:57
  Brick by brick Ryan.
• 52:00
  Brick by brick.
• 52:02
  Ryan: Uh, number three.
• 52:03
  Um, I'm going with Charlize Theron, is gonna be a shocker,
• 52:08
  Children of the Corn Three.
• 52:10
  Urban Harvest.
• 52:14
  Kearns: That is a shocker.
• 52:15
  Cool though.
• 52:16
  Ryan: one of the children, she's not one of the children of the Kerns,
• 52:20
  but the children of the Kern and
• 52:25
  Kearns: The Kern
• 52:26
  Ryan: of the Kerns.
• 52:27
  Uh, but children of the corn.
• 52:29
  Kearns: sounds like a South Park accent.
• 52:32
  Kern.
• 52:33
  All right, bye.
• 52:33
  Bad.
• 52:34
  So
• 52:34
  Ryan: same plot as the
• 52:35
  Kearns: she score any good?
• 52:36
  Kill
• 52:36
  Ryan: Um, it's been a long time since I've seen it.
• 52:40
  I think she was more in the
• 52:41
  Kearns: me too.
• 52:42
  Ryan: um, very young.
• 52:43
  No,
• 52:43
  Kearns: I.
• 52:43
  Ryan: say very young.
• 52:44
  Charlie sta maybe teenage years at that time, 95.
• 52:50
  same occurrence in like the last two films.
• 52:53
  These kids are walking behind the rows and killing people and running
• 53:00
  their life the way they want to.
• 53:01
  Just like Bon Jovi said.
• 53:03
  Now, number two, we don't have to explain it.
• 53:07
  We've set this many, I've mentioned this many of times on the podcast Nightmare
• 53:11
  on Elm Street, three Dream Warriors.
• 53:14
  It's my, one of my favorite nightmare movies, but it's
• 53:16
  Patricia Arquettes first film.
• 53:19
  It's the
• 53:20
  Kearns: Cool.
• 53:21
  That's a good one,
• 53:22
  Ryan: I know we've mentioned it before, but to think about
• 53:25
  this being her first film.
• 53:27
  She kills it.
• 53:28
  She might've done a lot of TV shows before then uh
• 53:33
  Jon: no, no.
• 53:33
  I'm thinking, I'm just thinking you might have a twofer on that one because
• 53:37
  isn't Lawrence Fishburne in that way before he was Larry Fishburne?
• 53:41
  Ryan: no.
• 53:41
  He is actually Larry Fishburne in this,
• 53:44
  Jon: Yeah, he's credited.
• 53:45
  He's credited as Larry in all his early stuff.
• 53:49
  Ryan: So
• 53:49
  Jon: He doesn't become Lawrence until Matrix era maybe.
• 53:55
  Ryan: Larry, I thought Lawrence Fishburn was a good, would've been a
• 53:58
  good nap, I thought, because Patricia Arquette, this was like her first role
• 54:02
  Jon: Yeah.
• 54:03
  Yeah.
• 54:04
  Kearns: In,
• 54:05
  in Apocalypse Now.
• 54:06
  Jon: Probably he was Larry A. Long, long time.
• 54:11
  Kearns: in in a movie with Brando, you think you'd have your stuff figured out.
• 54:15
  Jon: he was.
• 54:15
  He was Larry A. Long time.
• 54:18
  Ryan: did Brando call you?
• 54:19
  He just called me Larry.
• 54:21
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 54:23
  Lucky he called you.
• 54:24
  Anything.
• 54:25
  Jon: Yeah.
• 54:25
  Ryan: Duh.
• 54:27
  Kearns: Brando was that guy.
• 54:28
  All right.
• 54:29
  Back to Ryan, 'cause I'm dying.
• 54:30
  Let's get this top five wrapped up with a pretty bow.
• 54:33
  Ryan: end it.
• 54:34
  Um, because it's summertime, I'm gonna end my number one with a summertime film.
• 54:41
  I always feel it's the summertime, it's the summer of George every
• 54:44
  year being a Seinfeld fan, and number one is The Burning.
• 54:48
  Yeah.
• 54:49
  Jason Alexander.
• 54:51
  Um, this is I think his first or second film role he's ever started in, and
• 54:56
  he's got a full head of hair it just
• 54:58
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 55:00
  Ryan: he, again, puts his heart into it.
• 55:02
  Besides doing the, what was it?
• 55:04
  The Mick BLT commercials.
• 55:07
  He puts his heart into this.
• 55:08
  Jon: Mick?
• 55:08
  Yeah.
• 55:09
  Ryan: The, the MBLT was it called the Mick lt.
• 55:14
  Jon: GLTI wanna say.
• 55:16
  Ryan: It was just basically a quarter pounder with lettuce, tomato, and.
• 55:22
  Jon: one.
• 55:22
  That's another two for, 'cause that's early Holly Hunter.
• 55:25
  Ryan: Really.
• 55:26
  Okay.
• 55:26
  Kearns: Hunter.
• 55:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 55:28
  Ryan: All right.
• 55:29
  So I didn't even,
• 55:30
  Kearns: Great.
• 55:30
  Ryan: even know.
• 55:31
  But there's also, we're all talking about dongs all the time now.
• 55:36
  There's also a dong in this one.
• 55:39
  yeah.
• 55:40
  There is.
• 55:41
  Unexpectedly,
• 55:42
  Jon: mean,
• 55:42
  Ryan: it's unexpected.
• 55:43
  Jon: listen,
• 55:44
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 55:45
  Jon: listen,
• 55:45
  Ryan: was.
• 55:46
  Yeah.
• 55:47
  Jon: those,
• 55:47
  Kearns: Uh uh.
• 55:48
  Jon: Alexander shorts are, were a walking wardrobe malfunction.
• 55:53
  Those really early eighties, like
• 55:56
  Ryan: The light
• 55:57
  Jon: daisy dukes for men.
• 56:00
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 56:01
  Form fitting jorts.
• 56:03
  Ryan: George for
• 56:04
  Kearns: Oh boy.
• 56:05
  Oh boy.
• 56:06
  All right.
• 56:07
  Enough of that.
• 56:07
  John, what's your top five?
• 56:09
  Jon: All right.
• 56:10
  I went with movies.
• 56:14
  Ryan: Okay.
• 56:14
  Kearns: Oh,
• 56:16
  Jon: Uh, number five.
• 56:20
  have trapped alive.
• 56:22
  Kearns: Okay,
• 56:22
  Ryan: a good
• 56:23
  Jon: So in on,
• 56:25
  Kearns: so training.
• 56:26
  Jon: on Christmas night, a group of escaped prisoners take two
• 56:29
  women and a deputy hostage, find themselves trapped in a mineshaft.
• 56:35
  Unfortunately, for everyone involved, the prisoners are not the
• 56:39
  most dangerous thing in the mind.
• 56:42
  Ryan: good.
• 56:43
  I haven't seen that movie in years, to be
• 56:46
  Jon: The movie, this is so wonderfully, wonderfully bad.
• 56:50
  Ryan: You know what?
• 56:51
  know what came up real quick?
• 56:52
  Spooky.
• 56:53
  If you guys ever seen that from
• 56:55
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 56:56
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 56:58
  Jon: yep.
• 56:58
  Vinegar syndrome.
• 56:59
  Put that out maybe two years ago or so.
• 57:02
  Ryan: it's going on the list.
• 57:06
  Jon: Uh, so my number four is a movie I that kind of reminds me of chu not
• 57:13
  as good, surprisingly, but it's mimic.
• 57:17
  Kearns: Yeah, I agree that Mimick is not as good as Charlie.
• 57:20
  Uh, mimick is good, it's, it's Mimick fell flat in a few areas.
• 57:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 57:26
  Ryan: over?
• 57:26
  Mimic the
• 57:28
  Kearns: Yes, by
• 57:29
  the
• 57:30
  Jon: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Ryan: I'm thinking
• 57:30
  Jon: Yeah.
• 57:31
  Kearns: the book, the Relic as well.
• 57:34
  Jon: I, I like mimic, mimic Iss a good movie.
• 57:36
  It's, it's a lot chu though.
• 57:39
  It's, uh, so Dr. Dr. Susan Tyler, played by Mira Sorvino, has
• 57:45
  genetically created an insect to wipe out diseased cockroaches.
• 57:50
  Three years later, those insects have turned their attention to
• 57:54
  their only true predator humans.
• 57:58
  Now, now, Susan has to stop her own creation.
• 58:06
  Ryan: That's
• 58:06
  Kearns: one.
• 58:07
  Ryan: logline too.
• 58:10
  Kearns: Yeah, it was a good movie.
• 58:12
  really good, like two for movies like Romy and Michelle's High school
• 58:14
  reunion and I just go right into Mimic.
• 58:17
  It's good.
• 58:18
  Feel good Saturday night.
• 58:19
  Ryan: to watch like the mimic first and then have the feel good
• 58:22
  afterward or were you not feeling good
• 58:24
  Jon: No,
• 58:25
  Ryan: And
• 58:25
  Jon: no, you,
• 58:28
  you, you need mimic to wash away the taste of Romey and Michelle.
• 58:34
  Uh,
• 58:36
  Kearns: What's number three,
• 58:37
  Jon: number three is the Boogins.
• 58:41
  Kearns: The Bull Games.
• 58:41
  I've never
• 58:42
  Jon: Uh, I, I, I didn't know of this movie until, uh, probably eight years ago.
• 58:48
  I saw it at a, a movie festival.
• 58:50
  Um, so miners are working to reopen an old mine, but they've
• 58:56
  inadvertently released deadly creatures.
• 58:59
  Ryan: Okay.
• 59:01
  Jon: Even worse, the mine tunnels are connected by bootlegging tunnels that
• 59:06
  lead to all the houses in the town.
• 59:08
  Ryan: That's
• 59:09
  Kearns: Done.
• 59:11
  Jon: And the creatures run rampant through the town.
• 59:13
  It's also kind of chd like
• 59:16
  Ryan: Okay.
• 59:16
  Like,
• 59:17
  Jon: it's, it's, it's more of a, more of a rural kind of chd, but it's,
• 59:22
  it's has a very similar feeling also.
• 59:25
  Ryan: similar, I'm presuming, or
• 59:28
  Jon: Um, not so much, not so much, but the, the feel is very similar.
• 59:35
  Ryan: Sorry.
• 59:35
  I should say feel my bad.
• 59:37
  Like not looking, but like,
• 59:39
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 59:40
  Ryan: It's
• 59:40
  Jon: Yeah.
• 59:41
  It definitely, yeah.
• 59:43
  Yeah.
• 59:44
  You'll de if you watch, if you watch, you'll definitely be able to see
• 59:47
  the con the way it goes together.
• 59:51
  Kearns: Okay.
• 59:51
  Jon: Um, so my number two, I feel like I've maybe talked about before,
• 59:57
  but it's digging up the marrow.
• 59:59
  Kearns: Okay.
• 59:59
  Ryan: No.
• 1:00:01
  Jon: Um, it's directed by Adam Green who did the hatchet series.
• 1:00:06
  Um, and stars Ray wise, uh, and it's cameos with countless horror
• 1:00:13
  legends as all as themselves.
• 1:00:16
  Um, so Adam Green plays himself as a documentarian who's making a movie
• 1:00:22
  exploring Monster Art when he meets William Decker, who's very wise, um,
• 1:00:27
  who claims he has proof that monsters are real and he can find them.
• 1:00:32
  Ryan: Okay.
• 1:00:33
  Ray
• 1:00:34
  Jon: Spoiler, spoiler, he can,
• 1:00:37
  Ryan: Wise,
• 1:00:38
  Kearns: Okay,
• 1:00:39
  Ryan: Punisher.
• 1:00:41
  he the Punisher?
• 1:00:44
  Jon: no,
• 1:00:44
  Ryan: No, I'm getting mixed up
• 1:00:46
  Jon: um,
• 1:00:48
  Ryan: I'm,
• 1:00:48
  Jon: yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Ryan: I look him up after.
• 1:00:53
  Jon: yeah.
• 1:00:53
  You'll know him when you see him.
• 1:00:56
  And my number one, my number one we're underground.
• 1:01:03
  We've already mentioned him a couple of times tonight.
• 1:01:07
  It's George a Romero's Day of the Dead.
• 1:01:09
  Kearns: Of course it is.
• 1:01:12
  Ryan: You gotta have
• 1:01:12
  Jon: So if, if you haven't seen,
• 1:01:16
  Kearns: one
• 1:01:16
  Jon: if you haven't seen Day of the Dead, number one, what, what's wrong with you?
• 1:01:20
  But so with the World Overrun by the Walking Dead, a group of
• 1:01:25
  scientists and soldiers must attempt to coexist in an underground bunker.
• 1:01:30
  Tensions rise as soldiers die, and the scientists are no closer to a cure.
• 1:01:37
  The situation explodes when Captain Rhodes learns of the new
• 1:01:40
  direction of Dr. Logan's work.
• 1:01:46
  Bub.
• 1:01:47
  Kearns: If you wanna know about what that direction is, you better
• 1:01:50
  keep listening because we're definitely gonna do that movie.
• 1:01:52
  Jon: Oh yeah.
• 1:01:53
  Ryan: was my first,
• 1:01:54
  Kearns: probably gonna do like RO for a year.
• 1:01:57
  Ryan: that was my first George.
• 1:01:58
  A Romero film was Day of the Dead.
• 1:02:00
  It wasn't, it wasn't night, it wasn't Dawn.
• 1:02:03
  It was day on
• 1:02:04
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 1:02:06
  Ryan: Sci-fi channel and it just
• 1:02:11
  Kearns: That's why I miss those network, uh, networks because it, you did get
• 1:02:16
  exposed to stuff every once in a while.
• 1:02:17
  That would change you.
• 1:02:18
  Ryan: or IFC,
• 1:02:19
  Kearns: know,
• 1:02:21
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:02:21
  Kearns: was perfect for that too.
• 1:02:22
  I liked their, they used to have a great October lineup as well.
• 1:02:26
  Ryan: Samurai film at seven o'clock.
• 1:02:29
  Any, oh God,
• 1:02:32
  Kearns: and the crying game, just in case, you know.
• 1:02:35
  There it is.
• 1:02:36
  Dons.
• 1:02:37
  All
• 1:02:38
  That's how we're gonna end our CHD episode.
• 1:02:40
  We hope you enjoyed it.
• 1:02:41
  Definitely go see CHD if you haven't CHD before.
• 1:02:44
  Definitely CHD now.
• 1:02:45
  Ryan: a good one.
• 1:02:47
  Jon: See ya.
• 1:02:48
  Chds.