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Jaguars Reporters: March 29 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Is there any real mystery that you're taking Trevor learned.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Reporters, presented by t I A A
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Speaker 1: Bank with Brian Sexton, John Osher, Ashlyn Sullivan and J. P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrins Presented by t I A A Bank starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Reporters Bryan Sexton, J K. Shadrick, Ashland Sullivan,
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Speaker 1: John Osier. Uh. Week of the Eastern closer and closer
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Speaker 1: it is. It's holy weak for those of us who observe.
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Speaker 1: And we're getting to that point where, um, it's the
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Speaker 1: drafts time. I mean the month of April is rap time,
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Speaker 1: which is holy weak to those people. And um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: of the draft knocks of the world. Uh so here
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Speaker 1: we go. How are you all, lovely holy hanging in there? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's waiting for this for a couple of months. Favorite
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Speaker 1: Eastern candy peeps, and I'm passionate about it. Peanut butter
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Speaker 1: eggs for me. Yeah, I don't think there's any I mean,
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Speaker 1: just have something different. I'll go with the malted milkball eggs.
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Speaker 1: But if it's me in a bag of Reese's eggs,
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Speaker 1: I win. H Yeah, pretty much anything chocolate in the basket,
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Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're filtering through there and get
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Speaker 1: like those powdery, sugary things, you always just sort of
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Speaker 1: throw that aside, unless you're schlant. What are you expecting
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Speaker 1: a basket from your significant other? Yes? I hope he's listening.
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Speaker 1: Is that a thing he would give? Easter baskets? Apparently?
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Speaker 1: Did you get one for gen? You better? No? It
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Speaker 1: sounds like one of those things that's been made up
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Speaker 1: in the last ten or fifteen years as a thing
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Speaker 1: something else for you to spend money on. I never
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Speaker 1: exchange like easter baskets. Well, I know shattering, did you? Well?
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Speaker 1: If there's re season it now, I'm all over it.
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Speaker 1: The peanut butter, bring it on? Is there money involved?
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Speaker 1: Have to give up a tooth for this? Only if
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Speaker 1: your grandmother is the person hiding the eggs? Right? Okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, now that we're off on that tangent, let's
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Speaker 1: get right into big things. JT. We will start with you, sir. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's uh something we'll hear a little bit later. And
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Speaker 1: did you hear this? But obviously the big story this
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Speaker 1: week so far is Urban Meyer with Peter King, and
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Speaker 1: Urban finally said it all but said it that Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: they're going in that direction at number one. The evidence
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Speaker 1: has been there, the tea leaves have always said this,
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Speaker 1: But now urban Meyer is starting to say it. You know,
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Speaker 1: all these detractors from what the Jaguars shouldn't do. You know,
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Speaker 1: they should get somebody else besides Trevor Lawrence is all
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Speaker 1: gonna be done now or anybody else putting that out
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Speaker 1: saying they're going in a different direction just needs a
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Speaker 1: storyline and clicks. It's out. It has no basis in
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Speaker 1: fact anymore. I just want to go on the record
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Speaker 1: and all I have to say on this, and you're
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Speaker 1: not on drivetime with us. But the day that they
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Speaker 1: cut Leonard for Nette, I said, okay, it's fair Lawrence, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, he has been on that train. I've been
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Speaker 1: on that train ever since. Absolutely. Yes, I think it
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Speaker 1: always has been kind of like it's always been for clicks.
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Speaker 1: It's always been for a storyline. Even now now it
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Speaker 1: looks even more ridiculous. But a month ago it still
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Speaker 1: looked ridiculous. I read somewhere John that he has been
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Speaker 1: the number one pick since his freshman year of Clemson. Right,
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Speaker 1: he's just the number one pick. Yeah, well, it seems
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Speaker 1: a very high percentage chance that Irvin came here for
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Speaker 1: the chance to coach is high. I would say he
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Speaker 1: went and he stood next to him during his pro day.
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Speaker 1: He has opted not to attend other pro days. Um,
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Speaker 1: so it all makes sense if it. As I started
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Speaker 1: writing as soon as the season ended, when Urban got here,
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Speaker 1: if he wasn't going to take Trevor Lawrence, I really
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Speaker 1: wanted to sit on the country on the conversation with
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Speaker 1: Shod explaining why not. That there wouldn't have been a
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Speaker 1: reason why. But it had better be a really, really
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Speaker 1: well laid out reason, and it better just blow your
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Speaker 1: mind or else they were taking this kid. So let's
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Speaker 1: say that's what's gonna happen. Signs pointing towards them, that
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Speaker 1: that cube whatever, how many sides? It all says yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: yes on that one exactly, John Well, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: The you know there's that thing inside the magic gate
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Speaker 1: ball that spins with all the different answers. It's multi sided. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you call. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: geometrically speaking, I don't know what the one well it's
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Speaker 1: or everything says it is likely there's like a thousand
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Speaker 1: signs to the thing. It can't say it's an octopus. UM. Uh,
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Speaker 1: mine is I'm disappointed and surprised at Tyson a lot
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Speaker 1: of his decisions. Uh. And the decision for anybody who
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Speaker 1: doesn't know, is he originally agreed to terms with the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: I guess he contracted COVID, I had to stay in
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Speaker 1: a hy didn't come in to sign his contract, and
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Speaker 1: some of the Steelers teammates. Overall, just a change of heart,
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Speaker 1: and he sided to go back to Pittsburgh. UM. You know,
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Speaker 1: I understand it. I'm disappointed, but I guess I get it. Um.
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Speaker 1: If it was a younger person or somebody who had
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Speaker 1: didn't know, I would be really stunned and I probably
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Speaker 1: really critical. Knowing Tyson, my guess is everything that you've
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Speaker 1: read about this, they had just built a house. His
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Speaker 1: family loves Pittsburgh. UM. A lot of guys say they
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Speaker 1: do things for family reasons. My guess is that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what this is. He decided, you know what, I don't
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Speaker 1: move my kids happy in Pittsburgh. H I've only got
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Speaker 1: a couple of years left. Let's just not have that
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Speaker 1: interrupt that. So I wish he was here because I
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Speaker 1: liked the guy. I think he would have helped. But
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess my overall feeling with this is
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Speaker 1: this is a guy who gave a lot and went
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Speaker 1: through a lot when he was here. Whatever makes him happy,
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Speaker 1: I'm good with. It's hard to argue with family. And
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Speaker 1: I think you guys, you all know him. You haven't
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Speaker 1: never met him, you would have loved him. The other
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Speaker 1: side of the coin is, as you mentioned, he only
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Speaker 1: has a few years left and they're making one last
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Speaker 1: run there with with Ben and the team that they've got.
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Speaker 1: And I think if you look at it, if he
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Speaker 1: looked at it, he probably said, you know, they're a
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Speaker 1: couple of years down there from being where I need
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Speaker 1: to be. This gives me my best chance. The house,
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Speaker 1: the kids, the family. UM, bummer for him, well, good
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Speaker 1: for him, bummer for us indeed. But we were talking
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Speaker 1: before we started recording the podcast. Um Coach Meyer and
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Speaker 1: his press conference was talking about the flaws and free agency,
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Speaker 1: and I think this is one of them. Not you
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Speaker 1: don't get the chance to talk to these players before
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Speaker 1: they sign, and they don't accept digital contracts and signatures,
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Speaker 1: so you have to wonder if he would assigned a
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Speaker 1: couple of days earlier, the Steelers might not have been
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Speaker 1: able to figure out their cap situation, teammates might not
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Speaker 1: have reached out as money as they had. You just
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Speaker 1: it's what if. But you wonder what would have happened
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Speaker 1: if this shook out two days earlier. I think he
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Speaker 1: just signed thank you had been here, because I don't
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Speaker 1: have any question then when he originally agreed this was
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Speaker 1: a plan, and I'm sure there was a lot of appealing.
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Speaker 1: He loved Jacksonville. Uh. From from all accounts, he was
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Speaker 1: happy here, his family was happy. I think this is
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Speaker 1: where he wanted to be at that point. And then,
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Speaker 1: you know, people, somebodys forget these guys are humans, and
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Speaker 1: you make decisions based on many, many different things. When
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Speaker 1: we left Indiana, I was ecstatic to come back. My
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Speaker 1: wife and son had lives there that they enjoyed better
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Speaker 1: than what I was doing, and it would not have
8:04
Speaker 1: been an easy decision. Had I said, hey, you guys
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Speaker 1: might to Jacksonville. It had David making the call, it
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Speaker 1: would have been different. So, uh, it's life. Here's so
8:16
Speaker 1: we were talking about this before we started recording, as well, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean all of us, most of us have done
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Speaker 1: a doc you sign um, yeah, you know something online, right,
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Speaker 1: either for a house or whatever, insurance whatever, You can
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Speaker 1: do everything online now ver digital signature's what they call, right.
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Speaker 1: Why doesn't that apply in the NFL. Well, and at
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Speaker 1: some point it might soon, I think so of it's
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Speaker 1: not the physical too. Yeah, to come in and cretain things,
8:43
Speaker 1: you have to do one site. But yeah, just got
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Speaker 1: to Quest Labs get the physical out there. That's how
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Speaker 1: things happened in this league. One team finds itself in
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Speaker 1: a tricky situation and gets pinched, and then there are
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Speaker 1: people put together a proposal and it goes to the
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Speaker 1: owners in the competition and committee, and then they change
9:01
Speaker 1: and then next year everything will go that way. But um,
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Speaker 1: it will probably change somewhere along the line where the
9:06
Speaker 1: Jaguars look at defensive tackle because they now they need
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Speaker 1: another body there. Yeah, you know, yeah, maybecome hey, let's
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Speaker 1: get the twenty three and make sure we get our
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Speaker 1: guy kind of thing. Yeah, it's a tough that's a
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Speaker 1: tough one in this because it is not a great
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle draft. There was a a reason they went
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Speaker 1: after that position in free agency, especially a ten year
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Speaker 1: guy Tyson Alolo is a grown man at a mature
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Speaker 1: human being playing defensive line. Knows how to do it.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be able to replace that in
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Speaker 1: a short term in the draft. Now he's got that great,
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Speaker 1: big samoan body. I mean, his calves were like this,
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Speaker 1: the size of most people's hamstrings. I mean, the guy
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Speaker 1: is just gigantic. Okay, Ashlyn, You're up next, alright, Adam
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Speaker 1: Schefter tweeting out, Trevor Lawrence will be watching the draft
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Speaker 1: from Clemson University and I don't know why a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks agoid. I never thought of this being an option.
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Speaker 1: I always thought it either be his home or Cleveland,
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Speaker 1: and everyone thought, oh, Clemson can be an option. But
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Speaker 1: I think it says a lot about him as a
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Speaker 1: person that he's choosing to do this. He's not getting
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Speaker 1: the custom suit, not walking on the red carpet, doesn't
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Speaker 1: want all eyes on him, wants that that moment with
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Speaker 1: his former teammates, former coaches. I imagine it probably won't
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Speaker 1: be very big, and so happens, it's a closer flight
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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, a closer drive for those of us who
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Speaker 1: are going up. I'm you know, I know I go
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Speaker 1: to the draft every year, as you know, and this
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Speaker 1: year not flying to Cleveland, driving to Clemson. So I'm
10:29
Speaker 1: kind of in favorite too. You know what I would
10:30
Speaker 1: have said if I were him, Can I sit on
10:32
Speaker 1: your yam? Yeah? Can you just park it right there?
10:34
Speaker 1: I'll be right just park it right up from Just
10:38
Speaker 1: park it right out there, and then I'll just you know,
10:40
Speaker 1: walk down the river walk and you know what he
10:42
Speaker 1: could say, Shot, I'm sitting on your yacht. Now, that'll
10:47
Speaker 1: send up a message. But I liked it. I liked
10:51
Speaker 1: it wasn't the flashy, look at me type of deal.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't want that. I've been to Clemson, but and
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Speaker 1: I wonder where actually is going to be on campus
10:58
Speaker 1: or in the football building? Are the club but I
11:01
Speaker 1: don't know. We're just thinking with the social distancing that
11:03
Speaker 1: we're all still seeing out there, I would imagine they
11:05
Speaker 1: would do it inside their football facility and space everybody
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Speaker 1: out I have been to Clemson, almost went to Clemson,
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Speaker 1: and I went there on a on a visit. It
11:17
Speaker 1: was not a recruiting visit. They were not recruiting. I
11:23
Speaker 1: think it does say a lot about him and everything
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Speaker 1: you've heard about him so far is that what you're
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Speaker 1: seeing in this story is the real kid, and that
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited for this franchise to have him.
11:38
Speaker 1: I'm excited for this city to have him because it
11:41
Speaker 1: feels like he's going to be a perfect fit on
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Speaker 1: that front. It's you know, I've said this out there
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Speaker 1: and everyone who knows anything about him, he's he's a Christian.
11:48
Speaker 1: He's a very devout in his faith Christian. He he
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Speaker 1: looks like he could be Peyton Manning on the field
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Speaker 1: and Tim Tebow off of it. Which if that doesn't
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Speaker 1: fit this community, I don't know. What does you know?
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Speaker 1: I mean, he just it seems to be eight. And
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Speaker 1: I said this last fall. This just lined up perfectly
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, that there's a franchise quarterback who is
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Speaker 1: not only a great person but a great player from
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Speaker 1: the South, from Cartersville, Georgia right up the road. There's
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Speaker 1: a huge Clemson fan base in North Florida and South Georgia.
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Speaker 1: It just it made way too much sense. Uh. And
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Speaker 1: you know, thank you to the Jets. That's all you
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Speaker 1: can say, which is what I'm saying here because my
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Speaker 1: big thing is it's really good to be sitting at
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Speaker 1: number one with all the jockeying and going on for
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Speaker 1: teams that are trying to figure out who the next
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Speaker 1: best quarterback is, right, I mean, you look at San Francisco,
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Speaker 1: My goodness, they gave up their future for the chance
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Speaker 1: to go up and get to number three. And then Miami,
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Speaker 1: you know, pop back up at six and the Eagles
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Speaker 1: moved back, and you know who else is going to
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Speaker 1: try not to come? Would Atlanta take a king's ransom
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Speaker 1: to go back now at this point number four, Um,
12:53
Speaker 1: they're all trying to figure out who's next best. If
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Speaker 1: any of them could get to one, that's where they
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Speaker 1: go because all of them would rather have Travler waarrants.
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Speaker 1: There are so many it's the right way to say this.
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Speaker 1: There are so many fewer questions. There are so fewer
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Speaker 1: questions about Trevor then there are about any of the
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Speaker 1: other quarterback prospects. Um, it's good to be number one.
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Speaker 1: It is. It's good to be the winner. Second place
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Speaker 1: is the first loser. Remember that voice board at the
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Speaker 1: University of Florida. Second place, first loser. It was. It
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Speaker 1: was amazing day watching all that go down on Twitter
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Speaker 1: I mean, because it was within five minutes the next
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Speaker 1: trade happened, and we're all just like, they're not done.
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Speaker 1: I mean someone's going to something else is gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: But I mean it is bedlam, carnage. I mean this
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Speaker 1: first round draft picks being just thrown around the league,
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Speaker 1: and you're right, we don't have to worry about it.
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Speaker 1: You don't you just turn to if you're Atlanta, don't
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Speaker 1: you just announced we're taking the fourth quarterback. Well, in
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Speaker 1: other words, if you want one, you better come get him.
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Speaker 1: Here's unless you think mac Jones belongs somewhere in the
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Speaker 1: top ten. Here's the and I get this question, and
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Speaker 1: we will get this and hear this. There will be rumors,
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Speaker 1: even with the urban stuff. I shouldn't say rumors, there
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Speaker 1: will be clickbait stories about the Jaguars trading the pick um.
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Speaker 1: And this is what I I said throughout the fall
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Speaker 1: when people would when people were concerned the Jaguars might
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Speaker 1: finish with a second best record, and the questions were
14:25
Speaker 1: what would it take to move up? Hey, this pick,
14:29
Speaker 1: this pick, this pick. My argument with that was always,
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Speaker 1: if you don't get the number one pick in this draft,
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Speaker 1: there may not be a price to move up, because
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Speaker 1: of course there were there's something. Well, if you're the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars in Urban and I are right now, what would
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Speaker 1: somebody have to give you? There is no price. There's
14:49
Speaker 1: no price otherwise you right, yeah, you become Stu Inman.
14:53
Speaker 1: You know who Stu Immanent was, God rest his soul.
14:55
Speaker 1: He was the general manager of the Portland Trailblazers who
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Speaker 1: took Sambooie instead of Michael Jor. I mean, all these
15:02
Speaker 1: years later, remember the name because I remember people saying,
15:04
Speaker 1: what are they doing? Right? You're not going to pass
15:08
Speaker 1: the opportunity to take It's not for sale a great players, remember,
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Speaker 1: I think Alabama probably is where they talk about that
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Speaker 1: the most. Though, don't you probably all you got his titles.
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Speaker 1: We don't worry about the second place. No banners, they
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Speaker 1: called them Auburn right, all right? Well, speaking of that
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Speaker 1: and all of this around, Trevor Lawrence urban Meyer sat
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Speaker 1: with Peter King and the little podcast is this week's
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Speaker 1: did you hear this? Is there any real mystery that
15:42
Speaker 1: you're picking Trevor Lawrence. Uh, I'd have to say that's
15:47
Speaker 1: the direction we're going, and uh, I'll leave that up
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Speaker 1: to the owner. When we make that decision official. But
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Speaker 1: I'm certainly not stepping out the line that that's certainly
15:56
Speaker 1: the direction were added by the way, you know, Peter
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Speaker 1: will be here in August, and I mean this place
16:03
Speaker 1: is about to become, you know, media celebrity central. That's
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Speaker 1: one of the ancillary benefits of getting a quarterback like
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Speaker 1: this is that it will bring in the national media. Um,
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Speaker 1: do you expect there to be any benefit? If you
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Speaker 1: like the national media? I know a lot of those
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Speaker 1: guys are I think great, I guess you're right, But
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Speaker 1: this way, do you expect the jaguarris to have coming
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Speaker 1: off a one in fifteen season because of Trevor Lawrence?
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Speaker 1: A Monday night game? I don't think Sunday Night is
16:30
Speaker 1: necessarily in the cards this year, But do you expect
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Speaker 1: them to have a primetime game that they haven't had
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Speaker 1: in years? Well, that's Thursday. They can't flex them until
16:38
Speaker 1: the new deal takes effect, right, So that's have to
16:42
Speaker 1: be scheduled from week one on at least year. Right.
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Speaker 1: That's that's my asking is do you expect Trevor be
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Speaker 1: this year in will they have a Monday night coming
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Speaker 1: off one in fifteen? But that's Trevor Lawrence, he's a star. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Monday Sunday they won't know, but I would expecked Monday.
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Speaker 1: I think he's that big. I do too. One yeah,
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Speaker 1: Urban Trevor combined. Oh yeah, they haven't had a Sunday
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Speaker 1: night or Monday night game since it's been a long
17:15
Speaker 1: time year before I got here. It's been the Thursday stuff. Yeah,
17:18
Speaker 1: it's been a long time. So we're very used to
17:19
Speaker 1: the one o'clock slot. If you don't have it, it it
17:21
Speaker 1: throws off your whole week. Ashley, who speaks very, very
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Speaker 1: very much in the first persons, has kicked it. He
17:33
Speaker 1: give me ten more years Sunday the older you get
17:37
Speaker 1: one o'clock is nice? Down about that? All right? Shifting
17:40
Speaker 1: to everyone asked, I guess I just asked the question
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Speaker 1: in the sense that did you expect the game? But
17:44
Speaker 1: here's another one. How's the AFC South stacked up? After three?
17:47
Speaker 1: D See what you think? Um Titans do enough to
17:52
Speaker 1: stay on top where they fall behind the Colts because
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Speaker 1: of they're their atrophy losing, losing Corey Davis, John hu Smith. Yeah,
18:01
Speaker 1: they're young, they're young offensive tackle who was supposed to
18:04
Speaker 1: you know, Isaiah will some this was supposed to be
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Speaker 1: your that he would step in there, and I mean Titans, Colts,
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Speaker 1: Jack Sexons, Titans Colts. So you stay Titans, stay on top.
18:14
Speaker 1: They know how to play their game right now. And
18:17
Speaker 1: as long as Derrick Henry is healthy, yeah, and as
18:19
Speaker 1: long as Derrick Henry is putting out videos like this
18:21
Speaker 1: week of balancing and doing push ups and all that stuff,
18:27
Speaker 1: that you gotta stop that. If Whence comes back, then
18:31
Speaker 1: the Colts of the favorite. I mean, like if he
18:34
Speaker 1: if he gets back to two thousand seventeen level, and
18:37
Speaker 1: they're the favorite. But beyond that it's I mean, you've
18:39
Speaker 1: got to think the Jags moving ahead of to Texans.
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Speaker 1: I would think so. But at the same time, the
18:45
Speaker 1: Jags have to prove that said would say, you Shadrick
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Speaker 1: kind of with you, and I think the Colts have
18:51
Speaker 1: the better all around roster. But as you said, John,
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Speaker 1: the Titans haven't schemed up. They have the right personnel
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Speaker 1: to to play offensively like they want to play I think, um,
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Speaker 1: and they're they're the King's right now. So with King
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Speaker 1: Henry mainly leading the way, so give me the same order. Now.
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Speaker 1: The fortunate thing for the Jag Shelan is king. Henry
19:17
Speaker 1: by definition is a short is a short shelf life
19:20
Speaker 1: compared to having a quarterback in that spot. And so
19:23
Speaker 1: we're still gonna stop him because not many have been
19:26
Speaker 1: able to. But usually when a running back goes, he
19:29
Speaker 1: goes fast, so they'll be there until they're not. If
19:32
Speaker 1: you go back and look at Maurice Jones, Drew or
19:35
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell. Right, um, there's generally, you know, three years
19:40
Speaker 1: that are really good and then the great ones have
19:42
Speaker 1: three years where they're really really good, and then three
19:45
Speaker 1: years where they're hanging on. Right, We're about at that
19:47
Speaker 1: point now where Henry had a couple of good years
19:50
Speaker 1: but now he's had three incredible years in a row.
19:52
Speaker 1: And I'm with you. When it goes, it's done. So
19:55
Speaker 1: you just don't know. I mean, the abuse that he
19:58
Speaker 1: delivers is also abused the he absorbs. So you you know,
20:02
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think he's got it this year.
20:04
Speaker 1: There's watching him on that video, but when he does
20:08
Speaker 1: slow down, it will be sudden, right, But until proven otherwise,
20:11
Speaker 1: I will continue to be scared. And that quarterback, t
20:13
Speaker 1: Anny Hill, is a product of that running back. He's
20:16
Speaker 1: a completely different quarterback because of Derrick Henry. All right,
20:21
Speaker 1: as my question, who are we picking at now that
20:25
Speaker 1: we have free agency? Some new additions, still some holes
20:28
Speaker 1: to Phil Shatick, what's your favorite Mooring safety? Need another
20:34
Speaker 1: young guy back there and maybe you throw him in
20:38
Speaker 1: with the guys who got in free agency and go
20:41
Speaker 1: to town. Let's go new, new secondary. And that's part
20:44
Speaker 1: of the rebuild back there that was important for Urban Meyer.
20:46
Speaker 1: So that's I think it's a safety if not for
20:49
Speaker 1: that guy, all right, what do you think? Well, you
20:52
Speaker 1: know I would be with you on that, UM, either
20:54
Speaker 1: him or the kid from UCF who's starting to climb
20:58
Speaker 1: at safety. But the Tyson Alo wild think changes my mind. Um,
21:02
Speaker 1: if Christian Barmore is anywhere close to me, that's who
21:04
Speaker 1: I want. Uh. You know he's a big bad man
21:07
Speaker 1: watching him play in the in that series in UM
21:11
Speaker 1: in college football, I need a defensive tackle, any of
21:14
Speaker 1: the young strong tackle. If he's there, that's who I want, because,
21:17
Speaker 1: as we've talked about so often, you've got to be
21:19
Speaker 1: able to stop the other run. This year, I'm intrigued
21:23
Speaker 1: by more. I probably have said him had Shaddick not
21:28
Speaker 1: h Barmore scares me because it feels like defensive tackle.
21:34
Speaker 1: There could be a we've we have to have one,
21:37
Speaker 1: So let's take this guy. And I thinks that's part
21:43
Speaker 1: of the issue with it's a little bit of concerned.
21:45
Speaker 1: He turned it off and on. I would say, best
21:47
Speaker 1: corner available. Um, when I first thought of that, I said,
21:51
Speaker 1: no corner, you need three. I think they're good with
21:57
Speaker 1: Sydney Jones and Trey Herndon. Wouldn't surprise me if they
22:00
Speaker 1: tried to get a third guy to be an absolute
22:02
Speaker 1: stut in the medal. Yeah, I think in your building
22:04
Speaker 1: for the long term. I just bar more. I just
22:06
Speaker 1: like I was rewatching the National Championship game in five
22:09
Speaker 1: tackles too for a loss in a sack. But you're right, Shatterck.
22:13
Speaker 1: When he turns it on, it's on. When it's off,
22:14
Speaker 1: it's it's questionable. Yeah. Early in the season, he wasn't
22:18
Speaker 1: really a name yet, and then when the bright lights
22:21
Speaker 1: turn on, it kind of he ramps up his game
22:23
Speaker 1: a little bit. It felt like just for comparisons sake, though.
22:26
Speaker 1: I remember a guy from Alabama who was often accused
22:29
Speaker 1: of turning it on and turning it off, a guy
22:30
Speaker 1: named Derek Thomas. Him Shatter and and you know, I
22:38
Speaker 1: remember Derek had seven sacks against Seattle UH in the
22:42
Speaker 1: early nineties and then it was like, you know, three
22:44
Speaker 1: weeks later they're like, where is He's only had a
22:46
Speaker 1: sack and a half? Yea, he had seven there? Right, Um,
22:49
Speaker 1: great players, you're great players, and you hope that a
22:51
Speaker 1: guy like Joe Colin can get the most out of it.
22:53
Speaker 1: We'll see man like I could play. Here's here's here's
22:59
Speaker 1: what I couldn't blow. If he's there, I think he fits.
23:02
Speaker 1: I don't see Christian Barmore being a second round pick.
23:05
Speaker 1: I mean the measurables are all there. There's production in
23:07
Speaker 1: big games there. I think you'd bank on a coaching
23:10
Speaker 1: staff being able to get the most out of him.
23:11
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't even think he's I think because
23:14
Speaker 1: there are so few and his size, speed, strength ratio
23:18
Speaker 1: someone you know, I see him being fifteen. You'd have
23:21
Speaker 1: to give something up to go get him. So, John,
23:25
Speaker 1: does it surprise anybody that the lone voice in the
23:29
Speaker 1: wilderness on Trevor Lawrence is Chris Simms. And look I
23:35
Speaker 1: get it. Everybody's got their stick. Everybody. He's the contrarian guy.
23:41
Speaker 1: He's the guy who's going to be different. But right now,
23:45
Speaker 1: nobody except him seems to think anything. He said, this
23:49
Speaker 1: kid's the best pick in the draft, and there taking
23:51
Speaker 1: JP surprised that it's Chris. He always seems to have
23:55
Speaker 1: something right. Um, I'm not really surprised at all. Somebody's
24:01
Speaker 1: going to do it right. Might as well be Chris
24:03
Speaker 1: Simms and take the clicks, right? Will he? Brian stop
24:07
Speaker 1: because he's going to keep pounding the drop now you
24:09
Speaker 1: know he can't walk that back because yeah, because we
24:11
Speaker 1: all do this there to every microphone or camera, there's
24:15
Speaker 1: a little bit of stick to me. I mean, otherwise
24:17
Speaker 1: just you know, don't know what about this? What about that?
24:19
Speaker 1: I mean, you you stand out by saying something like that.
24:22
Speaker 1: I bet you if we got him in here and
24:24
Speaker 1: it was us with the lights on but no cameras
24:26
Speaker 1: or microphones, I'd be curious to see if he really
24:29
Speaker 1: believes that or if he's just grabbed that to be
24:31
Speaker 1: the stick that he's hitting it with. He tells me,
24:33
Speaker 1: people confide me. Yeah, I mean, just the take itself.
24:37
Speaker 1: The tweet he tweeted out makes no sense to me.
24:40
Speaker 1: No comparison between Zack Wilson and Trevor Lawrence's workout doesn't
24:43
Speaker 1: list any differences of why they're not comparable. Goes on
24:47
Speaker 1: to list that Zack Wilson made some high level throws
24:52
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence not what's he on the playground? Yeah, that's
24:58
Speaker 1: what happens. I mean, if we're talking about bar More
25:00
Speaker 1: being a one year guy, I means Zack Wilson's only
25:02
Speaker 1: a one year guy too. So how are their pro
25:04
Speaker 1: days different? It's the same thing. I'm there. Yeah. I
25:09
Speaker 1: go back to what we stalk talked about earlier in
25:11
Speaker 1: that was is that it seems that for the last
25:13
Speaker 1: three years it's just been a foregone conclusion that Trevor
25:16
Speaker 1: Lawrence to be the number one pick. Zack Wilson has
25:18
Speaker 1: become the foregone conclusion to be the next quarterback taken wherever.
25:21
Speaker 1: That is just in the last two months here or here, right,
25:26
Speaker 1: I mean it just whatever, uh JP, bring us home
25:29
Speaker 1: whoever it is better a quarterback this year because the
25:32
Speaker 1: class next year stinks, doesn't I haven't even looked at
25:35
Speaker 1: it's not it's not great. What is yours? So, which
25:37
Speaker 1: means the Falcons have even more leverage who it doesn't matter? Good? Right? Good? Oh? Well,
25:46
Speaker 1: all right, so this week owners meetings virtually and they
25:51
Speaker 1: are going to vote on adding a seventeenth regular season game.
25:55
Speaker 1: Seventeen regular season games and three preseason games. My question is,
26:00
Speaker 1: are you fired up about this? Are you about this?
26:05
Speaker 1: Or is this awful? Ashley? I personally am myth. I
26:11
Speaker 1: don't think if it took away a preseason game, then
26:13
Speaker 1: I'm definitely okay with it. But I was reading that
26:16
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, for example, said curse word, this is dumb
26:19
Speaker 1: as h double hockey sticks. Uh, And I know that
26:23
Speaker 1: was a pretty thin margin of it passing are not
26:25
Speaker 1: so I think the players that voted no are obviously
26:27
Speaker 1: gonna be very opinionated by this. My question is when
26:30
Speaker 1: does it stop when this is going to turn into
26:32
Speaker 1: eight teen? When do you put the cap that there
26:35
Speaker 1: are enough games because one more game is going to
26:37
Speaker 1: make more money continuously? Where do you draw the line?
26:41
Speaker 1: I think it would be a long long time until
26:46
Speaker 1: they go to eighteen. So it's been a long time,
26:52
Speaker 1: but you're right at some point I believe they will
26:55
Speaker 1: because it's such a huge bargaining chip between players and
26:58
Speaker 1: owners that eventually someday players might give that up and
27:03
Speaker 1: go one more if there's something else down the road
27:06
Speaker 1: that they really want. But I think it'll be an
27:09
Speaker 1: incredibly long time. Uh, I'm kind of male on it.
27:14
Speaker 1: I I personally think there's too many already. Uh, mainly
27:20
Speaker 1: because of the attrition. Um, No, fourteen, I mean, I
27:29
Speaker 1: obviously they'll never go back to that, but fourteen to
27:33
Speaker 1: sixteen is fine when you talk to trainers people were
27:36
Speaker 1: involved with it sixteens about the limit that they think
27:40
Speaker 1: that overall the human body. When you get to twenty
27:44
Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl, and then if they're playing preseason
27:48
Speaker 1: on top of that, twenty four football games at that level,
27:52
Speaker 1: the studies do show that the attrition starts ratcheting up
27:55
Speaker 1: every game after that. So well, I'm with you for
27:58
Speaker 1: all those reasons, but but follow me. Did you see
28:01
Speaker 1: last week where the owners agreed that every eight years
28:05
Speaker 1: every team would be giving up a home game and
28:09
Speaker 1: playing an international game. Did you did you catch that
28:11
Speaker 1: last week? Okay, so follow the money with this thing,
28:15
Speaker 1: and you can't grow the league by growing the number
28:20
Speaker 1: of franchises anymore. We're past that right A. Because I'm
28:24
Speaker 1: not sure how many cities in America are able to
28:29
Speaker 1: have an NFL team and support it geographically. That's another one, quarterbacks.
28:34
Speaker 1: But you can grow the league if you play games
28:36
Speaker 1: in London, in Frankfurt, in Barcelona, in Mexico City, in Toronto, right.
28:41
Speaker 1: I mean they talked about playing a regular season game
28:43
Speaker 1: in Beijing. I mean I think maybe that's off the
28:45
Speaker 1: table now. But this extra game becomes a game that
28:50
Speaker 1: you can put overseas and not take a team. Right.
28:54
Speaker 1: So in those years where let's say you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, okay,
28:57
Speaker 1: one of the teams that never would ever to play,
29:00
Speaker 1: giving it up, well, you're giving up an extra game
29:02
Speaker 1: in a year that you got it because they're going
29:03
Speaker 1: to take the NFC one year in the a f
29:05
Speaker 1: C the next to make them home games. So now
29:07
Speaker 1: you're taking the Steelers and giving them a home game
29:09
Speaker 1: in Dublin, Ireland. Okay, you know the Rooney family is
29:12
Speaker 1: happy with that. This to me the combination of the
29:15
Speaker 1: seventeenth game and the ruling, and it's the ruling or
29:18
Speaker 1: just a recommendation that every team would be giving up
29:20
Speaker 1: a home game every eighth year, which means, by the way,
29:23
Speaker 1: every four years, everyone's playing overseas. Um. This is a
29:27
Speaker 1: way to get more games overseas to grow exponentially greater
29:32
Speaker 1: than they are right now because the TV contract. I mean,
29:35
Speaker 1: how much more can they keep going without growing the
29:38
Speaker 1: marketplaces for the networks to be able to offer it there.
29:42
Speaker 1: So I kind of saw the seventeenth game and that
29:45
Speaker 1: last week as a combination, and that interests me. It
29:48
Speaker 1: gives them all the options. Everything's out there. Whether they
29:51
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on some of that stuff or not,
29:52
Speaker 1: I mean they can at least they're pulling. They're pulling
29:56
Speaker 1: the trigger. You can be sure. If you didn't have
29:58
Speaker 1: the seventeenth game, then you can't. You can't take much
30:00
Speaker 1: dealers and say, Pittsburgh, you must play a game overseas
30:04
Speaker 1: or Dallas or one of these teams that has a
30:06
Speaker 1: huge depth service on their building, and there are plenty
30:08
Speaker 1: of them. Now the Rams come to mind. But now
30:10
Speaker 1: with this extra game every other year, you can probably
30:13
Speaker 1: work it out. So I'm gonna answer my own question here.
30:16
Speaker 1: I am fired up about the seventeenth game because there
30:20
Speaker 1: is not an additional bye week. If they would have
30:23
Speaker 1: added a bye week, it would have just it was
30:26
Speaker 1: already gonna be a long season anyway you start doing that.
30:29
Speaker 1: It was one year they did that right, they did
30:32
Speaker 1: weeks and forever, meaning everyone gets two by weeks. Yeah,
30:37
Speaker 1: it's just it took forever. The last one one year. Yeah,
30:41
Speaker 1: and terrible. It was bad because it was weird. You
30:49
Speaker 1: never actually I remember that. I was a casual follows
30:53
Speaker 1: is my first year coming University of Florida, so I
30:55
Speaker 1: was working Sundays. They didn't file the league as much
30:57
Speaker 1: as as I had before, and there was a stretch
31:01
Speaker 1: of eight or nine weeks where you could never quite
31:04
Speaker 1: remember who was playing. Two bye weeks was too many?
31:08
Speaker 1: One is fine, I agree with you. It isn't added
31:11
Speaker 1: a bye week he would have, and it moves Super
31:13
Speaker 1: Bowl weekend to President's Day's end, so Monday Holiday Sunday
31:17
Speaker 1: Super They have wanted to do that for years. That
31:20
Speaker 1: has been on the docket and they have finally found
31:22
Speaker 1: a way to do that. So I mean two buys
31:24
Speaker 1: would get them there or game. So that gets them there,
31:29
Speaker 1: and that's what they wanted for a long time, and
31:30
Speaker 1: one makes more money. There we go and if they
31:33
Speaker 1: ever go back to a combine. Now that goes to March,
31:35
Speaker 1: and then free agency starts a little bit later and
31:37
Speaker 1: the draft goes to May. And now the NFL season
31:39
Speaker 1: never ends. Desert anyway, said look different about now. The
31:46
Speaker 1: NFL season doesn't end, but this podcast does, and after
31:49
Speaker 1: what thirty five minutes or so, it's probably time to
31:52
Speaker 1: say see you next week, see you next week, see
31:55
Speaker 1: you next week, see you next week, see you next week. Folks,
31:58
Speaker 1: that was cute.