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Weddings, Summer House, and Comedy with Hannah Berner · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 1: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 1: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 1: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 1: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 1: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
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  Speaker 1: click and collect.
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  Speaker 2: So easy.
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  Speaker 1: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love. Heather MacDonald has
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  Speaker 1: got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when
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  Speaker 3: She talks Hollywood tales for real life, Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 3: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 5: Juicy Scoop.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I hope you had
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  Speaker 2: a great Fourth of July and enjoying your week. I
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  Speaker 2: have the best, juiciest episode. We laughed so hard. Hannah
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  Speaker 2: Burner is a comedian. She was also on a reality
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  Speaker 2: show for a few years. Even if you've never seen
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  Speaker 2: Summer House, you're going to really enjoy this interview because
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  Speaker 2: we get into everything and we discover a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop along the way and we laugh a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So here we go with Hannah Burner. Hello and welcome
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  Speaker 2: to Juicy Scoop. I have Hannah Berner, summer house star
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  Speaker 2: and not anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Has been.
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  Speaker 2: Comedian, podcaster. You're on my show. We did a virtual
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  Speaker 2: like a couple years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Depressing.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And now you're here in person in a cute outfit.
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  Speaker 2: I tried.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Cute blue. I wore a tennis skirt for you. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with it. We'll join like a tennis league together.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to let you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Whenever I'm in my dark times, I will just look
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  Speaker 3: at your Ramona Singer impression and it reminds me that
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  Speaker 3: there's good in the world. So I want to thank
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  Speaker 3: you for that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? You know what? I really kind of
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  Speaker 2: appreciate that because you're like a little bit younger than
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people think Avery's my sister when we
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  Speaker 2: go out and have a good time. But you know what?
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  Speaker 2: It's young girls like you that constantly approach me and
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  Speaker 2: they go, you know what, Ramona? How can I be
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  Speaker 2: like you? How can I be confident?
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  Speaker 3: How can I.
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  Speaker 2: Have a nice figure?
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  Speaker 3: Do you have a skincare line?
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  Speaker 2: How can I still look really good? Well, it's called Ageless.
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  Speaker 2: It's my anti-aging skin cream. And you know what?
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: It's like a lot of people, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people like to do nips and tucks, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not against it. But you know what? It's about having
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  Speaker 2: sunscreen on. It's about, you know, eating healthy. I like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of salmon.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get your brows done?
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  Speaker 5: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I got the brows because, you know, Avery goes, Mom,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Mom, it's like a thicker brow. I did
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  Speaker 2: not realize, just like I didn't realize I wasn't supposed
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  Speaker 2: to show, you know, Teresa's invitation until after the wedding.
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  Speaker 2: You're not supposed to show your eyebrows until the dye
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  Speaker 2: of the tattooing threading, you know, like settles a little.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they looked really great. I thought my eyes
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  Speaker 2: really popped.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, we could do this for the next
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  Speaker 3: hour and I'm into it. I just do a Luann
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  Speaker 3: where I just go, hello, darling.
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  Speaker 2: So you, I have, I just- My bestie. I just
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  Speaker 2: talked to Luann. I'm going to be at Luann's show Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going Thursday?
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  Speaker 3: I have to make, say hi.
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  Speaker 2: And then- Yes, and so you guys are playing tennis.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm obsessed with her.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you really, like, wiggled your way in.
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  Speaker 3: Girl, I don't know how, I think, I mean, she
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  Speaker 3: obviously has great taste in people. Yes, she likes me too.
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  Speaker 3: Lou took, like, kind of a, she's Lou to me now.
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  Speaker 3: She took a liking to me. During the pandemic, we just,
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  Speaker 3: we ate dinner because she's in SAG and I was
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  Speaker 3: in Shelter Island.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And I was just amazed by, like, all the things
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  Speaker 3: she survived through. just how glamorous she is. She has
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  Speaker 3: a great sense of humor. And then we just occasionally
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  Speaker 3: hang out. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of tennis, do you prefer doubles or singles? Because
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  Speaker 2: you're a pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Tennis player, right? Yeah, great question. I think doubles is
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  Speaker 3: so fun for socializing, but singles is a better workout.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: This is a sports pod now.
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  Speaker 2: And how do you feel about pickleball?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't done it, but I heard it's like,
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  Speaker 3: Ping pong, but more fun.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I'm afraid I'll get addicted to it, and then I'll
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  Speaker 3: be a retired old man just playing ping pong every day.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's so much easier.
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  Speaker 3: I heard it's so fun.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about your wedding. So, you found someone. Congrats.
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  Speaker 2: And he is also a comic.
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  Speaker 3: No, I swore. Because I've dated comics before, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, never again! And I'm like, how did you
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  Speaker 3: guys meet? He DM'd me during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: He... I saw him at the cellar like five years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he was hot, but he talked about living
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  Speaker 3: in Dublin. So I'm like, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: So is he raised? Does he have an Irish accent?
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  Speaker 3: He has the weirdest kind of. He was raised in Queens.
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  Speaker 3: And at 14, he got kicked out because he was
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  Speaker 3: being naughty for drinking. And they put him in a
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  Speaker 3: school in Ireland, which is like the World Series of drinking.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so he grew up here.
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  Speaker 3: He's a Queens guy.
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  Speaker 2: But then got sent to a boarding school in Ireland.
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  Speaker 3: Because his family is like of Irish descent. He had
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  Speaker 3: family there. And then he stayed there and created a.
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  Speaker 3: comedy career there like yeah and it's kind of a
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  Speaker 3: niche did he go to college he went to college
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  Speaker 3: there he's friends with like Killian Murphy they both were
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  Speaker 3: in the drama school together like he was just into
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  Speaker 3: the drama and comedy of Ireland and but he came
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  Speaker 3: back because of the pandemic he actually saw me with
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  Speaker 3: Luann in Shelter Island I posted a photo so it's
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  Speaker 3: because of Luann and he just was like hey do
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  Speaker 3: you want to get coffee in Sag Harbor yeah I
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  Speaker 3: said yes and we had a lot of mutual friends
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  Speaker 3: and I'm, I love an older man now.
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  Speaker 2: Now, how old is he?
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  Speaker 3: He's 46. I'm 30.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like I was, he was interesting. He
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  Speaker 3: speaks multiple languages. He's, he's at a different point in
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  Speaker 3: his career. So I didn't feel like a weird competitiveness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he really, he.
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  Speaker 3: He reminded me of like family. I felt like home
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  Speaker 3: with him. So I'm being so corny right now. And
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  Speaker 3: then we survived me in the house calling him every
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  Speaker 3: night being like, I just fought with 18 people. There's
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  Speaker 3: always seven in the house.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about your last season. Your last season in
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  Speaker 2: Summer House. So you're dating this guy, but then this
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  Speaker 2: other guy that you had a thing with the previous summer, Luke,
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  Speaker 2: he shows up. And so, because I think that's always
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  Speaker 2: so confusing. People were really confused. I'm guessing that you
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  Speaker 2: and your now husband were not As serious.
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  Speaker 3: I'd actually only hung out with Des four times before
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  Speaker 3: going in.
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  Speaker 2: Had you boned?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, second date.
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  Speaker 2: But you had never boned Luke?
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  Speaker 3: No, that was just emotional damage.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: That was just deep emotional wounds.
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  Speaker 2: And what was the deal? Why wouldn't Luke bone you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's so funny. I mean, we've done blowjobs. He's
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  Speaker 3: gone down to me. We did everything else. I think
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  Speaker 3: it was one of those reality TV things where, like,
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  Speaker 3: If things went sour, he could be like, well, we
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  Speaker 3: didn't bone. Oh, really? Because we were very sexual. We'd
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  Speaker 3: hang out at night.
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  Speaker 2: But he was the holdout, right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He was the one playing hard to get. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I want to fuck a hot model. And
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  Speaker 3: then when you guys do.
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  Speaker 2: Get intimate in the summer house, you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, you know, no flattery to you, but honestly, I
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  Speaker 2: stopped watching it. I didn't watch it this season, but
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  Speaker 2: I have questions for you. Because I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really know who these people are anymore, and
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  Speaker 2: Hannah's gone. Like, I liked Hannah, and I'm like... So
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, but I still like people talked about it
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  Speaker 2: in my group and stuff. So I still like know
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  Speaker 2: all the players.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know the specific. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: get super specific with it. I would think, listen, when
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  Speaker 2: someone stops being my friend, I mute them. So I
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  Speaker 2: can't imagine watching a reality show that I was a
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  Speaker 2: big part of and then I'm not on it. I
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  Speaker 2: would not be torturing myself. I don't think that's a
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  Speaker 2: healthy thing to do.
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  Speaker 3: I do have to say like being excluded from a
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  Speaker 3: friend group is possibly one of the more painful things
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  Speaker 3: you can go through in life. And for it to be, like,
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  Speaker 3: on a national scale, it was an ego death, let's
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  Speaker 3: just say. But I also do think, like, when people
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  Speaker 3: are meant to be your friends, like, you can get
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  Speaker 3: over certain stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, okay, so now aren't there– there's cameras in
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  Speaker 2: every room.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So how does that work with changing and if you
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  Speaker 2: don't want, like, your full– Screwing being featured. Do you
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: throw a towel over it? Do you unplug it?
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  Speaker 3: So what you do is you go in the bathroom
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  Speaker 3: and you put the water on. Because they'll get the
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  Speaker 3: sounds anywhere. Paige and I, like, the first time we filmed,
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  Speaker 3: we're whispering in bed. And then we realized there's mics
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  Speaker 3: behind the beds. Everything is bugged. So unless you want
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: to have weird, like, quiet sex, like serial killer sex. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what sound serial killer makes. Anyway, so
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  Speaker 3: we go in the bathroom and you turn it on.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes they'll let you put like a.
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  Speaker 2: So wait, by just turning on like a sink water,
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  Speaker 2: that'll screw up the whole sound system.
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  Speaker 3: They'll still get some stuff, but like the audio won't
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  Speaker 3: be as clear if you're like have the shower on.
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  Speaker 3: And you can kind of like hold it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a good thing there's not a drought in
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  Speaker 2: the Hamptons. If you did that in L.A.
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  Speaker 3: So much water privilege in the Hamptons.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really know that people would agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: You just look down upon me. You just turn it on.
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  Speaker 2: I've just been born and raised. And we're always either
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  Speaker 2: have a drought or getting over a drought or a
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  Speaker 2: drought is coming or there wasn't a drought and now
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  Speaker 2: we have floods.
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  Speaker 3: Every time we poop, you got to put the shower on.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually pretty harmful. People should look into that. Um, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So, okay. So you have to do that now. What
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  Speaker 2: about the filming? Cause I feel like I have seen like,
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  Speaker 2: like insertion videos with like covers over.
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  Speaker 3: Once they've told me like, you know, you could put a, um,
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  Speaker 3: a t-shirt over the camera. We'll let you guys, I
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  Speaker 3: also think like you get so comfortable with production. Like
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  Speaker 3: they're like family that you start to care less I
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  Speaker 3: also know I the only like real sexual scene I
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  Speaker 3: had in Summer House was when like Luke went down
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  Speaker 3: on me when I was like drunk but I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was quite empowering for women I thought everything's about
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  Speaker 3: male pleasure I want to be like I got fucked
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  Speaker 3: like with this tongue and I thought and I didn't
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  Speaker 3: go down on him and I thought it was a
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  Speaker 3: feminist movement.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah first there was Gloria Steinem and now there's
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  Speaker 2: you you know what things have changed you know I
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  Speaker 2: think like we have.
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  Speaker 3: To stop being so like like grossed out by women
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  Speaker 3: having sexual pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: Now, do your parents watch that? Now, your dad has passed, right? No. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: your dad has not passed.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he is.
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  Speaker 2: I think I thought your dad passed because you got
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  Speaker 2: so mad about your dad when Kyle brought up your dad.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I thought he did. No, my dad and I,
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  Speaker 3: he's actually like my best friend. I just... I just
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  Speaker 3: was talking him over.
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  Speaker 2: What was that fight about then? I think I mixed
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  Speaker 2: it up with Lala Kent being so upset about anyone
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  Speaker 2: bringing up her dad because he passed. We're all the same.
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  Speaker 3: I mix up my storylines. I was like, don't talk
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  Speaker 3: about my family. I'm in the Jersey Housewives. I'm like, cut.
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  Speaker 3: That fight was an hour-long thing that just looked like
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  Speaker 3: out of nowhere I got pissed off. It made absolutely
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  Speaker 3: no sense.
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  Speaker 2: That fight. Yeah, so you agree.
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  Speaker 3: No, it made no sense.
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  Speaker 2: Unless your dad had died. I wish people saw.
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  Speaker 3: What actually the fight was about, but that was how
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  Speaker 3: it was decided to be told.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so are your parents still married? Yes. And did
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  Speaker 2: they watch you having to go down on you? And
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  Speaker 2: were they like, our daughter's so empowered?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think my dad got kind
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  Speaker 3: of into the season. At first he'd be like, I
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: don't care. Then he'd be like, well, what's going to
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  Speaker 3: happen with Lindsay and Carl? He got into it. And
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  Speaker 3: then my mom would be like, okay, earmuffs, because I'd
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  Speaker 3: be doing something inappropriate. That's the thing. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: about you and your kids, but they're my parents. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I get it from something. My dad is a silly,
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  Speaker 3: goofy guy. And he just rolls his eyes. And I
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  Speaker 3: think ultimately they just want me to be happy. And
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  Speaker 3: they like that I found a career that I'm enjoying
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  Speaker 3: and feeling like myself. Because I used to be a
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  Speaker 3: tennis player and I cried a lot when I lost.
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  Speaker 3: So I think they're just happy that I'm enjoying myself.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's worse things I could be doing than fucking on TV.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, I think I think it's one of
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  Speaker 2: those things like rip the bandaid off. Like I think
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  Speaker 2: for parents, once they've accepted like, hey, my kid is
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  Speaker 2: of a certain age and they are sexually active. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And or my kid is on a reality show. And OK,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen, you know, then they're just like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: like this is what. I have to do it. I
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  Speaker 2: might as well just enjoy it and be there or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know of anybody that said like their parents
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  Speaker 2: disowned them for being on a reality show. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And my parents, I grew up like in Brooklyn, New York.
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  Speaker 3: We're pretty like open family. We're not very religious. So
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  Speaker 3: they were just kind of, they just kind of roll
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  Speaker 3: their eyes and laugh. My mom listens to every podcast
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  Speaker 3: I'm on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I talk about everything and she's kind of my
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  Speaker 3: best friend. Yeah. They're like in their fifties and they're
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  Speaker 3: kind of my best friends and they were, they're the
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  Speaker 3: reason I think I was able to even survive reality
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  Speaker 3: TV because I They were just really there for me
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  Speaker 3: throughout all the ups and downs. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Am I a politician?
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: So let's– OK. So– OK. Let's go back to asking
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  Speaker 2: some questions about the wedding and then I'm going to– OK. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I love me some Mercedes and I was dying hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Her husband talking about she drank a little too much
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  Speaker 2: before getting ready for the wedding. What time was your
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  Speaker 2: wedding at? When did everyone have to be there?
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  Speaker 3: 4.30.
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  Speaker 1: 4.30.
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  Speaker 3: Were you aware of– I became aware of Mercedes when
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: during the vows, she yelled like she was at a
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  Speaker 3: baseball game, just like, woo! And we had to joke,
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  Speaker 3: and I was just like, does anyone know who invited
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  Speaker 3: that person? And everyone started laughing. Wait, hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're doing the vows.
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  Speaker 3: The crowd was rowdy, though. We had a very funny judge.
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  Speaker 3: Des and I were making side comments. It almost turned
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  Speaker 3: into a little stand-up-y. And Mercedes was... She would have
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: been removed from the comedy club. She was hot.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 3: She was, she was heckling me. She heckles me at
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: my wedding.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: You had a heckler.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: But she was kind. She was a kind heckler.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Did you ever see her wedding on a Shaw's?
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: It was by maybe the most incredible wedding I've ever seen.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: It was the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's what she felt like. It was such
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: a hit. But yours wasn't being filmed for a show.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Apparently she also busted her ass. She has what? She
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: fell also apparently.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: At your wedding.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: She basically made my wedding about her by falling. And
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: everyone was like, oh my God, Mercedes, are you okay?
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: She fell in the sand because she was wearing like
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: stilettos or who knows what she was wearing. Yeah. And
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: then apparently she wasn't sure what to wear because I
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: said like beach formal. So she's like, I'm just going
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: to go with golden glitter. She looks amazing.
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Funny thing about us is her husband is also just
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: a guy from Queens. So him and Des get along
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: cause they're just these simple dudes from Queens.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: We married the same guy. And I do have to
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: say about Mercedes, some people were like, how do you
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: even know her? I'm the kind of person that if
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: someone does something kind, like I never forget. And during
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: some of my reality TV drama, she sent me a
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: message when I felt like so alone and scared. And
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: she sent me a message that really like only from
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: someone who really understands the world could send.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: And it was so kind and so positive. And I've,
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: And she didn't need to send it to me, and
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I really needed it. And I'm like, that's my girl
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: for life, Mercedes.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of interesting because, yeah, she would know
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: because Shaw's, Summer House, Southern Charm, Vanderpump, of the Bravo
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: world are similar, like, you know, guys and girls, started
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: at a certain age, 30, whatever.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: And she's a veteran icon.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so... Yeah, you would know how those
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: relationships work. It's different than just the housewives.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I would always joke.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: And I think that's why housewives of other franchises, too,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: have become close. For that same reason. Because it's like,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: you're not on the same show, so there isn't all
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: those elements of competition and history. No. But you have
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: been to the same war.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like going to someone who's been to your college.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: And you weren't in the same friend group, but you're like, oh,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: you get the same bars and we know the same people.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: And I have that kind of with Sheena, too, who
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: has always been cool and supportive of me. And she's
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: just a fun time.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: So you had Sheena come, and then here you guys are. Cute.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Really cute.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: He's good cheekbones, that man. Yes.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: And so, okay.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Your notes are intimidating me. I feel like I'm in
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: a doctor's appointment. You're going to diagnose me with something.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: She's like, you're dying. Yeah, that doesn't look good.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: All right. So you did, when we talked last time,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you told me kind of how you How you got
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: discovered doing like you were writing for what?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Betches? Oh, yeah. I was doing short comedy videos and
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: tweets and memes. Very like online humor.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And so then you got approached by the Summer House.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: You did how many seasons of that? Three. And so
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: then what? Okay. So now you're doing the last season.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: You're filming it. Luke is going down on you but
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: holding out the D. You're talking to Des.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: That was season two when he went down on me.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. And then season three, no, nothing?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: So the timeline is COVID hit around March when Luke
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: and I were still hanging out. It was just a
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: weird relationship of just talking on... He called me on
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: the phone three times a day. It was a very
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: emotional thing where you just feel like, okay, I'm emotionally
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: fulfilling each other's needs in some way. And we liked
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: each other, even if it was just two people going
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: through a similar thing.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: And then... he brought a girl in and I had
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: just met Des and very quickly I saw like, Oh,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: this guy isn't like going to be like my trustworthy
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: confidant in the house. And after like a week of
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: navigating that, we really had a fun rest of the summer.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: And I just got to know that I called him
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: every night, talked to him for like three hours at
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: night and then finally invited him like five weeks in.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: So I really kind of learned about the guy throughout
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: this experience. And I was a mess. I do have
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: to say, when they say try to be a cool
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: girl in the beginning, it does show him you're ugly,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: like get in a fight early on and see if
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: he can hang. Cause I survived that house with him.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I feel like I could survive anything. Right.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And so, um, okay. So what happened with, um, so like,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: how did you find out that they weren't asking you back?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Was it first that you didn't get invited to winter house? Yeah. Okay.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't get invited to winter house and I.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Was, and did you know winter house was happening?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: No one had told me.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: And so what happened?
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Paige was like, by the way, they're doing White House.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: How did she say it? Did she know you weren't included?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I think it was that Paige was in a weird
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: place because she's my best friend, but also she wants
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: a job. And it's hard to know what you're putting
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: on the chopping block. She's better at the politics, I think,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: than me. And yeah, they were doing it, and I
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: was kind of like, Okay, maybe it's because I was
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: dating Des, I kind of assumed. Right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Because I want the single people and the hookups. Because
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Winter House is like half a summer house, half of
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Southern Charm mixed with a couple other ingredients. Yeah, and they're.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Drinking a lot and just having a good party. But yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, it obviously hurts your ego a little bit
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: because you put so much into the show.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: And I had.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: And then after Winterhouse, were you like, well, at least
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: they'll still call me for Summerhouse? Or did you feel like, hmm,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: chances are I'm done?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: You know what was happening during that time? I was
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: on a talk show. I was on Chat Room. Oh,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: that's right. God, I forgot about that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Chat Room was you, Giselle.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Portia, and Kate Chastain.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, what happened? to that?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: After COVID, they kind of scratched it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: We're like, we don't need to do this sad Zoom
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: thing anymore.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I was filming it on my mom's microwave. I mean,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: it was so much fun. It was so much fucking fun.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I was busy doing that. And I don't
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: know if me being on the talk show affected it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: people's like perceptions of me or whatever but like i
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: always loved filming summer house yeah but i was like
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: busy with chat room at the time until they ended
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: it in i guess may like we did that whole
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: year yeah we had 42 episodes.
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• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: filed against me.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: what would you do if it was given back?
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: I need a home dad.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: happens next.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it shakes.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I mean, don't you think that reality shows
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: and all the, especially Bravo, it's like everyone's replaceable. Oh,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, just everybody is.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And I think it's a hard thing to accept because
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh my God, you know, I got to
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: walk down the street and people said they were my favorite.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: And I think the fans are fucking two-faced too. You know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: they'll say they love you, then they'll say they won't.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: They'll go up to you and say you're the greatest one.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: And then You know, I do think that one producer
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: told me this and it was very wise. He's like
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the people for fans, like the people you love aren't
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: as great as you think they are. And the people
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: you hate aren't as bad as you think they are.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: And reality TV are so replaceable because they really do
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: cast you in a way. I remember talking to Teresa
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Giudice's lawyer before I started. He goes, OK, think about
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: what you want to be. Do you want to be
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: the hot one, the hot mess one, the truth teller,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the like or, you know, the drama one? Because you're
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: going to be put into one of those segments. And
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I went in and I was like, I want to
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: show that women could be hot and bosses, but also
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: depressed and anxious. And they could be angry, but also kind.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to be like, I'm a multifaceted woman.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: And that's not ideal for reality TV. And I do think,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: you saw my first two seasons, I feel like I
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: was kind of the truth teller role. And then my
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: last season, I definitely was not in that role. And
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: you kind of get to see your life narrated through reality.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: people who aren't liking you in that moment. And that
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: is so scary. Like imagine people who don't like you
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: explain to someone what's going on in your life. Like
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: that was what it was like watching my last season.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: And I was like, fuck! I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And I didn't have a lot of confessionals in my
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: last season at all. And I kind of was like, okay,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I could tell. It's even like I like to talk
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: about like, think about Bethany and Leah McSweeney. They lost
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Bethany and they go, we're going to make another star.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And they find Leah. And everyone forgets for a second
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: about Bethany. The next season they go, everyone loves her
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: so much, let's get her down a little. Yeah. It's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: an art form.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Are you friends with Leah?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I actually am.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a cool person.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think she's in a
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: hard position because she, you know, came on and was
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: running around like setting, you know, about to set a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: house on fire with tiki torches and naked. Iconic. And
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: then because she is an alcoholic, she cannot drink and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: goes back to being sober. And I really think that
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: sobriety for a reality star is career suicide. Oh, God.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I hate to say it. It's very, very hard. Not
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: for everybody. But it's very hard because they sought you out.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And they put you all this alcohol around from the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: time of like, you know, Jersey Shore being the first
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: one to just be like. Where's the beach? Everybody get wasted,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: get drunk, be a mess to, you know, then all
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: these different people that we really enjoy. And I want
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: people to be sober and stuff. For some, they can
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: do it. They have enough other talent.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I want people to be sober.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, I get it. That's what you are
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: and you're healthy.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: But then for other people or like, God, you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: we can't all be sober. Well, the first part could
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: only be one or two of us sober if there's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: seven of us. Otherwise, the show's going to fucking suck.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And it might be smart for her to get sober.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: It's true. But it is career suicide because people don't
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: want to be your first part of your sober journey
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: is being away from people who are drinking.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Like number one to like become sober.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: So if it's you struggling with your sobriety. I mean,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: it's inspirational, but it's also like hard.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not what we want to watch. Like it's
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the same, you know, moms that are, you know, with
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: their kids all day or have jobs and stuff. They
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: don't want, when they get into bed to watch a
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: reality show, whether it's Summer House or Banner Pump or,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever. I think it's fine if they see moms.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: They don't want to see your potty training journey. And
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: they don't want to see you. And the thing is,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you can't. Listen, I have alcoholics in my family and I,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: at 13 years old, was going to a rehab like
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: on the parent family night. And I was, this is
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: what I first was like. I like me some fucking
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop. I was like, this is amazing. And like
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: my mom and I would go to dinner after. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: it was so great because the place was like in
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills or wherever. And my dad would take out
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: this thing that was called like the Saget Guide, like
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: to find before like. Yahoo, whatever, fine restaurants. So every
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Wednesday night in the summer between my, my, uh, let
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: me see how old I was either between seventh and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: eighth grade or eighth. I was like, it's Wednesday night.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Like I'm going to get some fucking juicy scoops and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: dark shit. I'm going to hear some really good stories.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: And then I'm going to go like, have like a
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: nice dinner. And, um, even at one point when I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: was doing standup in Hollywood, I was like, you know, I,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I met a lot of like recovering people and, um,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, you got to go. The best one
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: is the Robertson one, the meeting on Robertson. Now, I
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: was never sober, but they're like, the best one was
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: in Robertson because that's where all the agents are. And
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, do I go? To network. To get
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: like some, yeah, to get some stage time. And even
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: what I saw, there was one episode where Luann wanted
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: to go hit the AA meeting, like in Miami.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: And then Sonia was like all weirded out and then
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the camera couldn't go because it's anonymous. We're not supposed
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: to see other people that are there, right? And then
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Sonia's like, oh my God, I didn't really like it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: It was, you know, like homeless people and like it
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: was sad. I'm like, yeah, it's going to be sad.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And then I'm like, well, Luann went because she was
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: doing her stand-up in between her songs. She needed to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: get her time in. She had a quick little routine
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: to stories that she tells.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: She needed to get a quick set in. I just
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: envisioned you going up in the Hollywood just being like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: what's the deal with drinking? Am I right? And you
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: just go off for 20 minutes. You go, does anyone
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: have a tape of that? Can you light me?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I was seriously thinking about it. It was so hard
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: to get time. And I always had to invite everybody.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, here's a captive audience.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: But like, I wasn't, you go, I'm unwrapped. If anyone
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: wants to know, I am unwrapped.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: But the, but the Al-Anon part of it was where
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I would hear the juiciest stories. Cause it was like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I remember my mom and I, this gorgeous girl, stunning
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: was like, You know, totally had to become like a
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: prostitute for her drug habit. And my mom's like, could
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you believe that story? She had the face of an angel.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: She was a complete prostitute. They had these AA meetings.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. And then there was this other guy
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that was like in the industry. And he's like, my partner,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: like my girlfriend, is not down with me like being sober.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And he had a big coke habit. He's like, but,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you know, the other day I made a drink with
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: some lime and like it looks like a cocktail. So
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: maybe that'll work. And I'm like, excuse me, get rid
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: of your bitchy girlfriend. You're the one who's killing it
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood. Sorry that you can't do coke anymore. I
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: was like, that is awful.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: He's like, my girlfriend thinks I'm a loser now.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: But I made a drink that looks like it has
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: alcohol in it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: It looked like a rum swizzle, so she didn't fight
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: with me that night.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: So Carl, speaking of which, Carl is sober now. And,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: you know, Carl's one of those people, I know that
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: he's with Lindsay now. But I always thought he came
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: off really gay. And I'm not saying he's gay at all.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: But I am a little older than you. So I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: very confused by young guys that are not gay. That
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: to me, in my mind, going to college in the 90s,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: we knew what gay was then. when you talked to it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: And now I'm just like, I don't know what the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: fuck this is. And then I go, maybe it was
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the shorts, because he is so tall that Shorter shorts
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to me just look gay, even though they were in
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the 80s and they're coming back now. But he wore
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: male Trina Turk short outfits, like Mr. Turk. A very
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: cute summer look.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Honestly, he's so good on reality TV. I thought he
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: was fun.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't remember him being a horrific drunk or anything,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: but good for him being sober. How do you feel
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: about the fact that they were these good friends... So wait,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: they were good friends. They got together. They broke up.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: She got with the other guy and then she revealed
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: she had a miscarriage with him. And then did I
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: see something where he was.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: There was another guy before that, Stephen, that I knew.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Okay. And then with the guy that she had the
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: miscarriage with, I feel like I read something about that where... Oh,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: maybe it was here. Yeah. Yeah. That was he a
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: little bit upset? Like he didn't really know that she
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: was going to reveal that or something. I feel like
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: he was sort of, like, blindsided a little bit and, like,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: in a weird way. Was there something like that?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Well, all I know is just that he wasn't a
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: part of how it was told to America.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Just, like, it becomes, like, a production-type thing where it's, like, yeah,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: and maybe he wanted to be heard of, like, what's
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: the guy's perspective on it.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Right, which is true.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: But he wasn't on Summer House, I guess. So that's
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: the thing. If you're not on the show, like, you
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: don't get a voice.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Kind of. And you know what must have been awful,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and I can imagine this happened? Somebody sees this. She reveals,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you know, well, I had a miscarriage, and, you know, whatever.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: It would have been a beautiful childhood, which is sad.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And you just know, you just know this guy is, like,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: doing his thing, and he went to a game, comes home,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: lays in his bed, looks on his phone, and there's
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: probably a bunch of DMs of, like, what did you
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: do to comfort her? Like some weird thing when they're
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: perfectly fine and had a decent breakup. But it's like
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: all those outside voices that reality stars especially get where
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: someone's seeing, you know, something that was taped four months prior.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: This is a really traumatizing life experience. I know. And
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it affects everyone involved.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess he, when you're not on the show,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: you don't know when things are airing or how it's,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: how it's navigated. Yeah. Um, but like, obviously my heart
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: goes out to Lindsay for going through that, but to,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: you can make a decision. Do you want it to
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: be public?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about it? And she did.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: And I think it was great for women to feel
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: less alone in something that happens so often. Um, but
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I actually, I don't know Jason personally, so I don't,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I can't get like the real good team.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think there is no good team. I mean,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I think they were in a relationship. They weren't engaged.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: They weren't married. But this happened. He was obviously made
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: aware of it, of both being pregnant and no longer
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: being pregnant, I'm assuming. And, you know, they weren't going
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: to be life partners. So it was like, okay. But, yeah,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I think that probably it would have been hard for
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: anybody that goes through that with someone that they cared about.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: But then to then have this secondary relationship.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, someone's like doing a press tour about it,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: like not Lindsay, but just talking about it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: And the people are just assuming how he felt or
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: if he was there for her. But all I know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like they actually it's been pretty amicable. But right. Yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: it's it's fun. I feel like every season things always
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: get like like more and more drama because like First
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: season of Summer House, there was none of that shit.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: But now it's like sobriety and miscarriages. Because you get
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: deeper into these people's lives to keep it exciting.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Okay, so then now they're a couple, Carl
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: and Lindsay. But you guys are not close anymore, or
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: are you?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I reached out to them after the reunion, but
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't hear back and I mean, I really never
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: had a lot of beef with Lindsay or Carl, so
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: it was pretty heartbreaking for me.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: That you weren't going to be close anymore? That you
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: weren't hanging out?
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Just that they kind of decided that they were done
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: with me when I was like, oh, I've known you
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: guys for four years. So that was hard.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: And did you feel like it because you're not on
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the show, so you're really no use, and it makes
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: it hard to be friends with someone not on the show?
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, not at all. I'm best friends with Paige and Sierra.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm closer to them. No, but with them, I'm saying.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Or not.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: You know what? Sometimes I just think it's complicated. It's like,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I think with some people, you work with people and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the job ends.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: And you keep in touch for the next hundred years. Yeah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter. And then I think with other people,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: whether it's reality show or not, it's just like, I don't.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Well, what happened with us is we were very close
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: and then COVID hit. So no one really spoke for like.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: in person for six months and we were doing giggly
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: squad and people were just kind of seeing us online
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: and then we had this intense summer where we were
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: locked into a house COVID it was horrible and then
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: no one saw each other after that because it's still
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: COVID so it's airing and there was just so much
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: virtual drama and then they kind of were like we're
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: not friends with you anymore and um and I I
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: guess like I tried to not with all these cameras
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: in a reunion setting where you need good drama be
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: like call them and be like hey let's like actually
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: like friend to friend yeah work this out and it
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: wasn't I feel like if they had talked to me
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: then it would mean like maybe I'd be back on
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: the show if we're being honest and they kind of.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: And maybe they realized that yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: They made their choice that they're not friends with me
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: anymore and it feels very high school like MySpace top
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: 8 but I'm out of the MySpace top 8.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: But I mean that's reality shows are high school say
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: it as much as you want it's a reality show
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: oh my.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: God yeah like it is high school it's totally high
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: school and I did realize like Yeah, you have to
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: be a little political, and I have a lot of
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: trouble putting on a fake face when I feel a
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: type of way about something. Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: And then Kyle and Amanda. So I did not realize
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: he's 39 and she's 30. Now, one of your greatest
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: lines was when you said, I'm getting screamed at by
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: an angry leprechaun, and he really did look like an
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: angry leprechaun. I mean, his face was very red.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was one of those things where
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: you're crying. I was crying for like 10 minutes and
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: the camera guys are just looking at me and like
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the comedian in me was like, say something that entertains someone,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: you sad bitch. And looking back at it, it was
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: kind of mean, but we like laughed at it at
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Do you think there was any correlation to the fact
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: that you did marry a guy that spent a lot of.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Time in Ireland?
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: But you've seen a lot of leprechauns recently and it
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: was just in your head.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I do like eating that cereal, Lucky Charms.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: That could be it. No, I was being a dick.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I was being a dick.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And you think the leprechaun thing pissed him off.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it probably did. But also like me
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: and him, we were mean to each other that season.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: We just like did not get along. And yeah.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And now they did get married, right? They finally got married.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, the little bit I saw of this season,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah. I mean, no relationship is going
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: to flourish like that. When you're with a bunch of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: other single people in a house and everyone and cameras
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: and commenting on everything and everybody's drinking.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Every night. How do you feel about your relationship?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and then let's talk about the
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: fact that you guys fought.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: We all heard what you said to her last night.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Let's dissect it. Yeah, exactly.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: It's wild. Here's the thing. In real marriage without cameras
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and stuff, you know, you get in a fight. some
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: fight happens and you wake up, you make a pot
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: of coffee, make some eggs all a denial and you
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: move the fuck on. Yeah. And sometimes you don't need
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: to talk about it. Sometimes you just go, you know what?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: That was a drug thing and who cares? Or you're
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: just being a dick or I was being a bitch.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: But then to have like the world be able to
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: get into it. But even just in the moment, like
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: other girlfriends and other people being like, you.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Need to Well, imagine, you know how you get into
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: a fight in front of, like, one friend, and you
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: are so embarrassed for, like, six weeks in front of
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: that friend?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: You mean you get in a fight with, like, your boyfriend,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: but your friend's not?
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and your friend's like, oh my god. That's what
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: they have to experience with the world.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: They're like, you need to go to a shelter. You're like, oh, Jesus. No.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: If you need me, I'm here. And you're like, honestly,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: we were drunk. But I do have to give them
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: credit where, like, they've had so many ups and downs,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: you can call it, on the show, and they always
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: put themselves out there. I think my season, we were, like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: locked in, and there were some insecurities that we were
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: both poking each other on.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: And I think ultimately like what I would, cause I
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: haven't spoken to Kyle either, but what I would tell
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: them is like, yeah, I actually, you know, I commend
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: them for everything they've put out there and they've made
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: the show amazing. And ultimately like I always have been
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: rooting for them. I just like when I see certain things,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I get triggered and I was having, I was feeling
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: very like survivor mode stuck in the house where I
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: was like, don't speak to her like that. Don't touch
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: me like that. And it was really hard. And I actually,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: if you look at other seasons, I think it was
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: my first season, Kyle was crying on an island about
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: him and Amanda. And I was like, you can do this.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: You love her. And that's the relationship that I really
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: do want to have with them. Because my season, I
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: was gone. Everyone just tried to tear apart their relationship.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And I don't want that either.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: So wait, it's summer now. Are they filming now?
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: They're going to.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And what's your knowledge of who's all... coming back and who's.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Not I don't know exactly I'm pretty sure Paige is
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: okay um and Paige and Sarah I've kind of been
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: closest like I've gotten closer with them which is kind
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: of crazy because Summer House is like an ex to me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Like you don't want to know about it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Right. I know. Like I said, you don't want to
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: follow your Instagram, whatever. No. Something you're not friends with.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: What about now Paige and Pillow. What's his name?
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Craig. Craig. The Pillow Man.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: And they fell in love on Winter House.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: They're like complete couple.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: They're not engaged yet, right?
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: No.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: And why wouldn't we just bring, why wouldn't you just
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: go with Craig and they can be the new Amanda
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: and Kyle and they can like, we don't know if
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: they're going to get engaged or not. Then they get engaged.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: I feel like with reality TV, they're so quick to
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: be like, okay, when's the engagement? You like each other,
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: when's the engagement?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Well, that's, I mean, because you, you give them that too.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Like if I was Carl and Lindsay or Paige, I
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: would say, here's the deal. We're going to move into
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: the house. We're going to be into each other. We'll
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: make sure, like, a couple times.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: We'll have some ups and downs.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I'll make sure a couple times I take too long
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and everyone's waiting in the Sprinter van. And, like, there's
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: an irritating thing happening. One thing he does is this.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: So call me a bitch once.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get drunk and I'm going to let
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: my makeup get all over one of his best pillows.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I'll make out with his friend if you need me.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. A couple things might happen. But then, you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: at the end... We'll get engaged on the show at
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: the summer house. And then next year, it's the planning
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: of the wedding and all that stuff. And will we
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: and won't we and will we and won't we? And
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: then if you really want to milk it, then the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: third year you hire me, we get married at the
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: summer house. I wonder, can anybody ever do a deal
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: like that? Like, give me a three-year contract and I
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: will sell my soul to Bravo. I mean, we.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: We watched that exact thing happen earlier with that relationship.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: So just copy it. It's a blueprint. After I finished
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: my last summer, after filming, we were still waiting for
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: it to air, Des just proposed to me. And I'm
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: thinking back now that you're talking, and I'm like, oh,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: that wasn't in the rule book of being on a
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: reality TV show.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: If you would have consulted with me. Okay. I would
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: have said there's got to be a couple moments where
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: you sit down and go, I like this guy, but
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: these are my concerns. And then everybody, we pick them
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: apart a little bit. You know when people would say,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: when you do a job interview, and then they're like,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: and what are your weaknesses? And you're supposed to say
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: that I care too much, that I hold myself too accountable.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I'm really organized. I'm loyal to a fault. It's all
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: those positive things.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Honestly, he's so doting over me sometimes.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you do things that won't hurt him or
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: his reputation or anything, but you act like it's concerns.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Then we don't know if you're going to get together.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: The other people go off and talk about it. This
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: and that. And then he surprises you on camera with
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: a ring.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I have to tell you, the thing with Des is
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: he didn't even tell his agent. that he was going
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: to go on the show. We just were, like, falling
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: for each other, and he was like, nothing bad can happen.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Turns out, like, him coming for two days, they made into, like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: a three-episode saga, and it was this whole thing that I, whatever.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: And if he went down on his knee to propose
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: to me in February, and I said, stop, this is
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: not good for my reality TV star career, can you wait?
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: He's the kind of guy that would be like, I'm out. Like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: that's so lame. And, like, so there's two kinds of
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: lives you could live. You could find a guy who's, like,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: down to, make entertainment out of that. And he's a
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: little too, like, he's just like a comic.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I think you did the right thing. I'm saying, if
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: you were to go back in time, I had no,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I had to go back in time. You could have said,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You were like, you could have said like, look,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I love spending time with you. We could hang out
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: for five years and do nothing or we could get
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: married or whatever. Like you're into, I'm into you. However, if, if,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: if we want to do this a little bit longer, wink, wink,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: like that's what I would do. Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: You know, I think also for me, reality TV, like
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I started as like in the comedy space and reality
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: TV was a great way to get a platform.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: And I didn't think I'd be good. And then like
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: people started to like me and then people started to
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: hate me. And I kind of was like, Oh, I'm
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: getting out of my alignment, which is that I just
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: want to make people laugh. And like, and I like
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: the control of being on stage and being like my
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: vulnerable self. That's not like, cut up into a small place.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: But I do miss it sometimes. Like it was so
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: much fun. But I was really fun when I'm single
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: and I'm flirty and I'm silly and I'm naughty. But
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I guess Married Hannah is a different situation, even though
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Des is great on camera. Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: So now what happened with all the controversy about people
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: saying that there were tweets and there were memes and
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: stuff that were out there that then you used?
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: What is the story behind that and how I went
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: through all the truth. Yeah. Just tell me how you
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: feel about it. Cause I, I talk about that too.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: People just sent me something in a very popular standup
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: special that just came out and they're like, Oh, you know.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: They stole it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: And I said, I'm if, if, if she stole it,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I'm among some of the best she's stolen from. But
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I also think everyone's talking about COVID and there's very
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: similar jokes out there. And like, who cares?
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I went through a really hard time in my last
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: reality TV show. show where like fans were getting angry
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: and fans were starting to kind of like there was
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: specific fans that every couple weeks had like a different
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: kind of accusation against me like a full like kind
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: of cancel culture thing that was really scary at the
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: time and they would throw something out about me and
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: it won't stick and they throw something out and then
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I've been tweeting for over six years and there's sometimes
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: like little tweet formats like sex is cool but have
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: you ever had chips on your sandwich. And so they
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: definitely went through all like 5,000 tweets and they found
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: about four that were similar going in the atmosphere. A
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: lot of them were like tweets that were from like
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: two years ago where like they weren't even viral that
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have seen. And they found there like four
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: or five tweets and they pushed that as hard as
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: they could. And the, I feel like there is common
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: thought sometimes. And now I've before I tweet, I make
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: sure that there's like nothing on the internet that's similar
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: to it. Um, and it was like a good learning experience.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I, I actually had this, a couple of
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: jokes in my last special and they were like solid
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: crowd pleasing fucking everywhere I go. Great jokes. Yeah. But
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I noticed that other comics were doing stuff very similar
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I would rather cut it out of mine,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: even though I know I'm the one who said it first.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I would rather cut it out of mine than have
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: it get out and people think that, A, I stole,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: or B, just hacky.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Yes. Well, that's also what happens. When I was at Betches,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: the whole, do I like him more? We kind of
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: started that and stuff. And then some people have accused
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: me of stealing stuff that I was the one who
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: wrote the joke originally. But I have friends who all
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: the time will message me and be like, oh, fuck,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I just tweeted this, and I know you tweeted that
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: three years ago. It's similar stuff. But this is the
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: thing with Twitter. It's topical. So something will happen like,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: for example, Paul Rudd comes out and he has beautiful skin.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: And everyone's tweeting about Paul's skincare routine. We want to
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: see it. So I tweeted something like, why are we
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: looking at influencers like Paul Rudd's skincare routine? And someone
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: had tweeted something similar two years ago. I never saw
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: that tweet. And it was fucking end of the world.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: But also... That's been a long-running joke that he's always
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: looked so young for his age.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: It's not an original thought.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: No, but it's like Ralph Macchio always looked young for
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: his age. So does Paul Rudd. That's been a common thing.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: But it is something I'm navigating. For example, something on Twitter,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I was doing stand-up and an alarm went off and
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I go, take your birth control. And it went viral.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: And then Annie Letterman DMed me and she was like,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: by the way, I've done that crowd work before. Could
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: you take it? like just letting you know, I did.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: It before you were on stage and someone's like, and.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I go take your birth control. And that's like a
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: crowd work thing that I've always done.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: And like another female comic was like, I've done that.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: And I, cause she posted it before me. Then I
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, I totally get that. And we're just
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: navigating that. But I do have to say, I've now
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: more conscious of like, I don't just like when Will
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Smith is like, how many times when Will Smith hit
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Chris Rock, did the same jokes go around? Um, I
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: do think also as you become a big creator, you
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: have to be conscious of like you are the one
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: with the following. So if someone had a typical idea,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: a similar idea, it would look bad. But thanks for
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: asking me about it because it's the most painful thing
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: for someone to accuse you of being a joke stealer.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: But people love to go for what people care about
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the most. And like obviously I was trying to be
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: a comic. So it was like pretty hard for me.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah. At no times was it ever a joke
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: that was original or a good joke that was like,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: it's always like a quick one thing about like, that's
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: a common thought.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I do sympathize and empathize with you
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: in that because, so I was doing standup so long
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: ago and I had a star 69 joke. And back
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: in the day, if someone called and hung up on
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: you or whatever, or you just want to call back
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: the last person that you called, you press star 69
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: and you were able to call them back without knowing
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: their number or anything. Okay. Um, so obviously there's a
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: joke there, 69. So I made a joke. I can't
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: remember something about sex and dating your ex-boyfriend and something
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: star 69 joke. So I'm the MC of the night
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: and I say that joke and, And this other guy
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: comes up and he does his act. And he does
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: not the same joke but in the same realm. I
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: immediately go up to him and go, just so you know,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: you weren't here when I did my joke. My joke,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I have a star 69 bit. And he goes, well,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: what is it? And I tell him what it is.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, well, thanks. I don't even think
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: they're similar.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: And I go, okay.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I just want you to know because I was like,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to think I stole it. But
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I also was being nice by saying maybe that's why
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: that didn't get that big of a laugh. Yeah. Okay.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Like because I already kind of covered it. Time goes on.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like a regular now at the improv. And like
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the owner of the improv like thinks I have a
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: TV show and me and all this stuff. And because
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I'm from L.A., whenever I'd have a show, I'd invite
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people. And they were like a fucking
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: cool USC crowd. And they were like the great audience.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: So now these bitter people are saying, I packed the audience.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not funny. How is this girl getting these spots?
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: And that same comic.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: No.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: So then it gets back to my manager that I
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: steal material. The Star 69.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: It is the worst thing you can accuse a comic of.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: So I fucking go to the improv with my notebook.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Dated.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is how the joke.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: The receipts.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: This is me journaling. This is how I thought of it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: This is the date. I was like, no one wanted
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: to know. No one wanted to care. Because like anything,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the minute someone makes an accusation about you, That would
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: happen sometimes on Chelsea Lately. We'd be like, oh, there's
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: been a retraction. And we're like, who cares? That was
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: three days ago. And we just wouldn't cover it. And
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: it's like, but when you're the person being accused of something,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: you're like, but I didn't do that. I didn't sell
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: stories to the tab.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Well, it's crazy how when I was having, like, Looking
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Bad on Summer House, everyone was kind of jumping in like,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: and she steals tweets, and she's an asshole. And it
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: was a scary... I even remember one of the tweets
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: was I was like, I know I'm getting old because
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I like air fryers. Like, that's not a joke. That's
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: just me, like... That's what they're saying I'm stealing.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: When I have.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, now I'm getting heated, but I have a
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: TikTok with hundreds of stand-up bits.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: And I've never once been accused of stealing any stand-up bit.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: But should I have tweeted, my air fryers are when
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: you're getting old? It wasn't worth it for all the hassle.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: But at the time, you just get your phone and
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: you're like, air fryers are stupid. And you post it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: And people... They found like five or six tweets, which
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: honestly I was kind of impressed that only five or
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: six out of 5,000 tweets that I've been tweeting. But
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: someone actually brought it up to me. They were like,
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: someone talked about it on Juicy Scoop. And I was like.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I think I brought it up.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: No, I think. Because it was like a topic. It
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: was like a story. And I was like, oh my God,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: this is like my worst nightmare. But I remember someone
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: mentioning like, you know, Heather's in the comedy world. And
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: she was like, she was asking questions about it. She's like,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: let's not just assume that Hannah's out here just like.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Also with Twitter, what are you going to do? See
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: a viral tweet and just write it? Or like, I'm scrolling.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Or like, or you know, you're seeing a tweet and
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: you're like, this is fun. I'm going to save this
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: for about six months from now.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: No, that's the thing. I was accused of jokes from
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: like two years ago. You think I'm going to see
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: a random tweet from two years ago? Wait. And then
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I post it and it's not even that funny. It's
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: about an air fryer. I'm not going to do that.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: And to be honest, I'm just putting a lot of
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: my effort into TikTok now because people don't know who
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I am there. So they just kind of. They're not like, oh,
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: that's a girl from Summer House. So it's been nice
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: to have a new community.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: But what I learned from that, okay, because is that
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: sometimes the easiest and the most well-received jokes are the Tinder, Bumble,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Air Fryer, Costco jokes and COVID because everyone can relate.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: But what I learned from that in that moment was
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: If I talk about my own personal life and my
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: own personal stories that have happened to me, no one
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: can accuse me of stealing that joke. But it's nice
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: to sometimes have those crowd-pleasing, literally one-liner jokes. And if
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: you've got one, you don't want to give it up
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: because maybe someone's saying that you, you know, or too
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: many people are doing it. You like to have those
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: little place ones where you're like, boom. But the fact
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: that Annie wrote you, that's appropriate. That's like to be like, hey,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: girl to girl, comic to comic.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I tweeted something about having a bad face day instead
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: of a bad hair day. And Nikki Glaser immediately texted
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: me with a screenshot of her notes with the date
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: and was like, by the way, two weeks ago I
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: was working on this bit on stage. Well, you know
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't steal it. Can I still work on it?
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I'm not doing anything with it. So, like,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: there's a community of, like, actual joke writers who are, like,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: navigating stuff.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Because I think in this world of, you know, not
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: just going on stage where no one's filming it, but
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: all the podcasts and tapings and all this stuff where
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: people can say, you said this and, you know, like,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: we don't want to be accused of it. We don't.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: And then sometimes the accuser, if the comic is beloved
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: and so big, some of the people that did go after, like,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Amy Schumer and stuff, they.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: It wasn't good for them either. So it's like, when
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: someone even brings it up to me, I'm like, thank
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: God I can write other stuff. Thanks for pointing it out.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: But I do think you nailed it. These were tweets that, like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: I posted one tweet on my Instagram a day for, like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: three years. I didn't like posting photos. I just wanted to, like, work.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: On the writing.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: It was like a writing thing, but, like, real jokes. But, um,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: At some point, I think I really just like wanted
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: a good tweet for the day. Yeah. And I did
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: have some like hacky stuff for sure.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: About air fryers. And looking back, it's like that was
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: kind of my little karma for just.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Like posting something for quick likes. Well, I have a
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: hilarious crock pot bit. Yeah. Just kidding.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, the 69 thing sounds funny. If you see
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: me on stage, don't say anything.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very old joke.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: No Gen Zs would understand it now. Yes, yes.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, it was like a learning thing
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: and it really pissed me off. And this guy was
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: like actively trying to fuck me over by saying it.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: And I was like, you're so fucked. What did I
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: do wrong?
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I had a particular like Paul Rudd tweet that the
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: problem is mine like went viral. And then it was
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: like a Bravo account who posted like two years ago,
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: she had tweeted something similarly. I kind of wanted to
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: be like, there's no way I would have seen that.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Paul Rudd having nice skin is, it was a common thought,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: but like Paul Rudd having good skin. It's not an original,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: like great joke of mine. It's just so, and they're like,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: fuck this bitch. Like so much hate. And it's, it's hard.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: It's like all the, a lot of the people that
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: are doing the, the Bravo commentary and podcasting and, And,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: you know, there's so many of them now versus like
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: four years ago. They're into it and some of them
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: want that same fame. And, you know, so it's like
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: they are sometimes they're fans, but they're also probably really
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: jealous that like that they didn't get to experience fame.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: the platform, but they're huge fans of the shows and
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: all that. And so that sometimes those people can get nasty.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Some of the Bravo meme pages are so fucking funny.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Like I used to follow them all. I love when
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: they made something like funny about me. Yeah.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Um, but then sometimes it goes dark and then you're like, Oh,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: I need to mute that. Like then sometimes it's straight mean,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: like it's not even snark. It's just mean.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Like who do we hate the most? And I'm like,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: this is not good for my mental health.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, no, it's, Yeah, I mean,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: someone told me like, oh, you know, there's this whole
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: group of people who hate you that you've kicked out
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: of your Facebook group. I'm like, okay, good. I mean,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: that's the thing about the podcast. I'm like, you can
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: still listen to me for free twice a week, whether
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: you hate me, whether we stop being friends, whether you
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: sent me a death threat. Like I can't block you
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: from listening, though. However, I bet that prediction that'll be
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: something new that happens in the podcast world where you
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: can almost like block a listener's account or something. It's
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: going to take a while. It's going to take like
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: two years to get that technology. But I think that'll
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: probably happen.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: I do know that the best podcasts are the ones
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: with the worst reviews. Like if you only have good reviews,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no one listens to your podcast. But I
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: feel like podcast reviews are so toxic because it feels
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: like yelping you as a person.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Because people will, like, rate my podcast based on a
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: fight I had on Summer House.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: And, like, I feel like the reviews shouldn't be a thing.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: No, I've literally had a review where they're, like, you know,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: criticizing my relationship with my stepdaughter. And I'm like, but
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: then there'll be another one that's, like, the thing I
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: love most about her is what a great stepmom she is. Like,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think my reviews are like, you know,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: a long thing, a five star. The tiniest, tiniest three
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: and four, tiny, tiny, and then like a decent one star.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: And it's like, and sometimes I just go read the
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: one stars. Just to like.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're naughty.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Like a drug.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Like a naughty drug.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm going through it, I'm like, nice, nice.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Why am I getting that energy? But that's the thing.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Everyone's podcast is only five stars and one stars, and
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: I've never read reviews to be like, I should listen
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: to this. You know it's all just wild shit being said.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy, because in the reviews, though, you can't
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: write back. No, you can't. You can't write back and go, hey, girl,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: there's about eight... million other podcasts you can listen to
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: so why don't you just go find out like you're
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: so angry.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: All the positive ones are bots and then someone will
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: be like all the negative ones are bots and then
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: they're fighting with each other it's quite entertaining it's like
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Elisa Roan like.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Woof I'm so angry so angry oh my gosh let
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: me see if there's anything else oh here's a sometimes
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I hate these so if you hate it just say
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I hate you but it was a Mary fuck kill
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: are you down or no I mean, I've done it before.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: It's Luke, Kyle, and Carl. Oh, gosh.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: I've done this before.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I don't like the kill. so I like to just say, like...
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Put down. Yeah. Like, put on mute forever or something.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Put on mute forever. Yeah.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: You know what? I would... What's in it?
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: I would.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: I know they're always so hard, but you've got to
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: just think of it logically.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're going to have this on in the back? Yes.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Wow, you guys are– I just have a beautiful photo
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: of you guys cutting the cake. No, I know that
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: this game is awful.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: I'm going– I mean, I love them all. I'm going
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: to– I'm going.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: To– Who's the richest?
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Of Luke, Kyle, and Carl, who is the wealthiest?
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Who has generational wealth?
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think– I mean, Kyle does ski. So let's
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: marry Kyle.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: And then Carl's tall. Okay. So we'll have sex with him.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: And we will just put Luke on mute because he's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: better to look at than hear from.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I think that's a great choice. Also, can I just say,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: if I was friends back in the day with Kyle,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: I would have told him, name your drink, Summer Boy.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: You just dropped the mic on that.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: First of all, Loverboy is doing amazing. Okay? It is
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: doing amazing. But just think how much better it would
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: have done just Summerboy.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a Hamptons rosé called Hamptons Water, which I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: think is very smart.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: It could even be like Summerwater. Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Look at us.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Just marketing execs over here.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: And... And then Carl still, like, stocks the shelves or
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: whatever of Loverboy.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: What does he do?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: What's his job?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not a part of this. I do not know
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: what's going on in the office.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: All right. Okay. Well, I think we had a lot
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: of fun here.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: This was so much fun. I loved talking.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Snacks with you. What's your deal? Are you ready to
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: have babies? What's happening? Oh. Do you have a plan?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: I have some shows coming up first. I'm going to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: be in... Chicago, Madison, Milwaukee. Oh, fun.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: That's where my mom went to college. University of Wisconsin
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: at Madison.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: That's where I went to college. I'm a badger.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Get the fuck out.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Cool badgers. Cheese curds.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Were you in a sorority?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: I was on the tennis team.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Anyway, my mom was a badger beauty. I'm
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: sure they stopped it because it's like only about being
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: pretty and stuff.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: So she was hot.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: And pretty people can't work anymore. So... She was a badger.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: That's our problem.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Really, truly. So she was a badger beauty and military
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: ball queen the same year.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: She must have been a badass because getting to Wisconsin
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: was hard.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Well, she had to leave Marquette because she did the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: original reality show. It was like this weird little cable show.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: And she did the longest kiss and they went away
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: for a commercial break. And the Jesuit priest put her
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: on social probation. And her dad was like, fuck this.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: So she's an icon.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: So go to University of Wisconsin.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, go Badgers! I mean, it's such a great school.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Are your boys interested at all in going?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think they can handle cold weather. They're born
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: and raised here. So like, you know, listen.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: You're like, no one's there.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Southern California kids can't. They think Boston's a weekend in Mammoth.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: It's like. You know what I mean? I mean, I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: wouldn't discourage it. Yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: It's a fun sports party school.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: But I just know it's very hard for like.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: It'll be a culture shock.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: But I just went because I did get a scholarship.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: So that's why I went. I didn't know where Wisconsin was.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: How do you play tennis when it's so cold?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Indoors.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Oh. Indoors.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: They have a beautiful indoor facility.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: They were great with sports. And everyone has a liquid
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: layer of alcohol pretty much all the time. So it's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: so much fun.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: But it was a culture shock for me, too, coming
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: from Brooklyn. Everyone thought I was, like, exotic because I'm
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: half Italian and Jewish.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Would you drink beer with pretzels and mustard?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, a thousand percent. Have you had the Bloody Marys
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: that have, like, a full hen in it?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: What do you mean a hen? Like a piece of chicken? Oh,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Can you Google Bloody Mary in Wisconsin?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do like it when it's, like, a
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: salad coming out of a Bloody Mary, like.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: A small meal. The Bloody Mary is just a vehicle
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: for what's in it. Like, they have cheese curds and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: a cheeseburger. Like, it's insane.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, how cute.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, cute. You'll have diarrhea like forever. Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Bloody Mary is a meal. You don't need to get
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: brunch with Bloody Mary. Oh, my God. That's crazy. It's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: a full-blown chicken. I've never. Just a corn and Ganesh.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: Corn and Ganesh.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: I've never even finished a normal Bloody Mary. I have
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: two sips and I'm like, I'm full. That's enough.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: You got to have that instead of a brunch. If
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: you're going to do brunch, you got to stick with
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: just like champagne.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: I have a question for you.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: So as someone who is green in the comedy field
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: and I want to try to have a long career
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: in this business and you have been killing it.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: When should I have babies?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I think what's really great is, I mean, I
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: think it's the best time ever for female comics and
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: there's so many like young moms and stuff. It definitely was.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Which was good is that my material, I was like
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: the only one doing it. Like talking about like being
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: a mom and married. It seemed like there were a
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: lot of people who were divorced or single or gay
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: or whatever. But I like had a traditional life. And
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: so that was very relatable. Yeah. I would definitely never
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: make that a reason why you don't get pregnant. Yeah.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: I feel like you figure it out.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Because everything works out and there's always new stuff. And
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: as long as like you're talented and fun and so
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: like enjoy that time and– Whatever deal you want to
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: work out as far as, like, how often you go
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: on the road or what is fine. I mean, I did...
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: My kids did... I do have a lot of guilt
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: about my Chelsea Lately days and when they were in
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: elementary school and, like, how much, like, poetry readings and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: shit like that I missed. But now that they're older
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: and I've had so much work.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: I love how the only thing you could come up
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: with was poetry readings.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: I just really had... I'm really sad about it.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Like, I.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: But, like....
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: But Chelsea Lately made me happy. Yes, yes. If that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: makes you feel better.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: It wasn't so much Chelsea Lately. It was that and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: then also the opportunities to go on the road. Like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: I had to do it then. But I didn't go
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: every weekend. Like I made sure. I couldn't go every
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: weekend because of the TV show. But I wouldn't change
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: any of that. It all works out. But what I
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: am grateful for is that I didn't. You know, a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: lot of people do it the opposite. They stay home
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: when they're little and then come when they're like nine,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: they like go on their career and whatever because the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: kid can like, you know, take a shower by themselves.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I kind of did the opposite. And I having so
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: much more freedom and time with my kids these last
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: seven years. I mean, I think they're the more important years. Yeah.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: So like if you can.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Now they're like besties.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like my kids don't. They don't. like I'm sad
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: that like I'm like oh I don't remember I don't
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: remember those baby times as much you know what I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: mean and like all of that but then also it
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: was so exhausting so to go to a hotel and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: be able to like be alone and like sleep till
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: 12 and have people say that they like love me
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I mean I did love it and my husband was
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: always great he never was like don't take a gig
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: or anything like that he never was like resentful or
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: anything like that and so it's like um I think,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: you know, and there's, so I just, so my advice
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: to you is, I mean, you have the husband, you're 30, right?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't fuck around. Or fuck around. Fuck
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: around with your husband. But I mean, I would like
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: get on it.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: Do you know I took plan B the next morning
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: of my wedding?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, because you had a big gig?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a weekend coming up in Milwaukee. I
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: forgot to take my birth control during my wedding week.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: I was just so out of it. And then we
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: had sex, and the next morning I was spotting, and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'm going to get pregnant. And
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: then I was like, do you want to have a baby?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: And he was like, I want to travel a little more.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, take me to CVS. So that
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: was romantic. That was our honeymoon.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: Yes. Yes.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, great that we have those things.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: But I do.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: I never was the girl who was like, I can't
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: wait to be a mom. I can't wait to get married.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: But I'm not into it. I actually love kids and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to have them. I just feel like
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: once I have them, I'm going to be so obsessed
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: with them.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: And.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: But that'll... That'll enhance my life.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: You won't though because it's like I definitely think this,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: you know, women today too, you can find a way
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: to balance it. You're always going to have more guilt
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: than your husband. It's never going to be the same.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: He's never going to be as sad about leaving as
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: you are. You will have like that anxious anxiety like
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: being away from your kids.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: But like, yes, I would definitely.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: I've dealt with self-hate my whole life.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: But I definitely think, definitely think like, you know, go
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: for it and do it and... It'll just work out.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: But you should not push it off. These are your
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: fertile years. And if you get pregnant easily and naturally,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: that's much nicer than– I mean, try– listen. it's hard
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: enough to schedule a standup gig and to make sure
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: like the sitters there or whatever. But if you have
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: to also schedule around getting shots and injections and not
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: your face, but like, you know, like that, that you
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: probably know people going, it's a lot, that's a lot
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: of scheduling besides the money. It's that's a lot more
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: on your hormones. I mean, so like you probably need
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: to spend, you know, maybe like any year or two
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: is what I'd say, like go off of it. Try
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: to get pregnant for those next couple of years. And
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: then if it is a problem, then you still are
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: young enough that like it's not that big of a
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: deal if you if you need extra help.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: I grew up in the toxic generation was like women
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: can have it all without having like an understanding of
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: like but it's hard but yeah but seeing you out
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: there like killing it and have the family and the
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: husband it's beautiful to watch and inspirational honestly so so sweet.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Well it's kind of interesting because i noticed like a
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: lot of girls in tiktok It's like flexing if you
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: don't work. Have you seen that?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Sugar daddies?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: No, there's sugar daddies, sugar babies, but then there's a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: sugar wife. Yeah. That's like bragging, like, what do I do?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I'm married well. Yeah, be fucking jealous and all this.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's fine. But it's like, to me,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit, wow, because... Like my mom was
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: so worked so hard to like have a career and tell,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: you know, have your education. No one can take that
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: away from you. And let me just tell you something.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: It's way more satisfying to get an accolade about your
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: work or what you created. Then you gave a really
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: good blow job and high on tick tock. I got
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: a free Chanel bag. That looks exactly the same if
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I got a fake one for $ 200 and no one's
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: going to know the fucking difference.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: I love your TikTok algorithm, but that's what you're seeing also.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see such weird, like, it's so funny because
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I'll say to my kids, did you see this? And
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: they're like, no, mom. We're not seeing what you're seeing. Like,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I don't see anyone dancing. I just see like juicy
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: fucking stories and like hookers like bragging.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: How much money they made the night before.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Yes. Like, but I'm just, like, kind of like, hey,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I get it. Like, that's a sign of feminism, too. Like, whatever.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: It is. But it's not long-lasting.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Being home alone with my own thoughts and no work
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: is hell for me. That's hell on earth for me.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: And I've always been a workaholic to run from whatever
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: I'm running from. And my self-worth has always come from, like,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: trying to accomplish something.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Well, what's funny is, like, the reason the moms went
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: and all got these second, these careers, you know, like,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: In like the 80s and we're like the latchkey kids
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: era is because they saw their friends be dumped. And
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: not know how to take care of themselves after 15
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: years of marriage. So then all these women were like, no,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: you've got to get a career going so that you're
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: not fucked. And now to see it all happening again,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: where women are like, fuck this, thanks. I want to
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: go back to being a 1950s housewife and just make
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: a chicken all day.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: They were pretending they were dumb and couldn't do anything.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: And that was the smartest thing they've ever done. Yeah,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: so now let me be that.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: But I would say... No, not great. Because, like, you know,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: you're going to get in the same thing of, like,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: being trapped and not having a career or being with
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: someone you don't like or whatever.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Being trapped in a relationship is way worse than being single.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: But I don't think you should be apologetic if you
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: have the luxury of being a stay-at-home mom.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's wonderful. Like, wonderful.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: If one person makes all the money. If it's a choice,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: that's great. If you feel like you're stuck, that's another. Yeah.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: But I also would say be a little careful about that, too. Like,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: don't get too... Also because it's really hard to get
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: back into the workforce if you wait too long.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Like if you don't work for 17 years.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: I don't like feeling indebted to anyone at all.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: I want to give blowjobs when I want to. Exactly.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: But if you get paid for them, you're probably smarter.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, a couple things I want to ask you. Yes.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: You mentioned being a boss, boss girl, boss bitch. Can
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: I just say, like, it's very annoying when women say
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: that and they have no employees.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: How can you be a boss? I have employees. No,
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  Speaker 3: I don't like saying boss bitch.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: But why do women say that? Like, be a boss,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: boss bitch. And I'm like, but you're just, you're just
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: like a, you're just an entrepreneur, like without any employees. Like,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I feel like if you're a boss bitch, you should
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: be like Joan Crawford with a hat on. Like, don't
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: fuck with me. I was like, you should.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Have like a lot of, sell the, sell the stocks.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: And then also like, why is that? empowering to say
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: you're a bitch. You're a bitch to work for?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever said boss bitch. I think
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: that term is too... Not you.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I'm saying in general people being like, boss bitch babe.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: The whole boss bitch and that power woman, people are
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: going against it now because.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Because I thought we're supposed to empower the employees and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: have them not quit.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe they're quitting because you're like, I'm a boss bitch.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: And also just making it like, oh, if you're a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: successful women, you have to be like running CEO companies
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: and it's like, let's normalize happiness first.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: That's kind of leaning. My thing is I, I might've
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: said that kind of thing because I am not great
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: at having bosses.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: And not that I'm like fight the man all the time,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: but like, I'm always that like weird creative kid who
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: just starts like doing her own thing and like ADHD.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: And that's been good for me in like a creative place,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: but not a nine to five.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Um, like, I would always have like new ideas and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: think I was trying to change the world. And they're like,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: you don't work here. So, so I've been fired from
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: multiple jobs and I've also like outgrown certain jobs, like,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: like betches. I got summer house and I started my
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: own podcast and I kind of outgrew it. And I've,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: I've liked being like a leader and just being creative
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: and nine to five wasn't, I mean, I've done the
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: cold calling sales, like the marketing I've, sold t-shirts.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: I've tried that stuff and it wasn't my calling.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. Well, good. I'm excited for your future. I'm
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: excited for Madison, Wisconsin.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: So excited.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Tell everybody where they can follow you.
• 1:14:10
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• 1:14:13
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• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks, girl.
• 1:14:16
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• 1:14:19
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• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: of my fall dates. So get on it now. The
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: car is beautiful. Where did you end up going for it?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: They have more cars for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: What's it called?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: It's Dunaidial.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: Where?
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: There's an accent on the E.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: Do you mean.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dundial Cars.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: Lift?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Dundial Cars.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.