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Is MLB headed for a lockout? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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They're going to have a ton of money to spend.
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Why not put it in one of the top three offensive players in the
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league? We're going to be looking at our
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judge and saying that he can't win the big game, Michael Jordan
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said. I played 82 games.
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You don't see LeBron doing that. A game where you got to go
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's been a crazy, crazy week.
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Today marks another day where I went to doctors.
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I am absolutely one of those guys that don't like going to
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doctors, seeing dentists. And today I was actually jumping
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from one doctor to another. Last night we had a meeting and
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I couldn't make the meeting because I wasn't feeling good,
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starting to spit up phlegm. And I know anybody understands
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when you getting sick, you think that you have, you know, I don't
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know, you have a cold, you have the flu, you have COVID.
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Well, last night I don't know what was wrong with me.
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So I dozed off. I went to sleep.
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I winded up waking up at 10:45 PM and I was coughing up green
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crap and I didn't know what it was.
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So I was up all hours of the night doing everything to try.
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I, I mean, how many people have told me to drink peroxide or,
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you know, gargle peroxide because your throat's hurting
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you or do other things, drink lemon juice or anything?
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I, I was trying everything, calling friends, my girlfriend's
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a nurse, so I was asking her what should I do?
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Try to feel better. So I, I woke up this morning, I
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went to a doctor and then I went to a dentist to measure a crown
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because I am trying to, you know, my teeth, I have very nice
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teeth. I take good care of it, But over
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the last couple of years I've all I've had problems with it
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when it comes to cavities and, and making sure that none of my
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crowns would break. So today I was measured for
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another crown and I the one thing I don't know if anybody
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knows this, I'm allergic to novocaine so I cannot have
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novocaine. So I, I don't do sleeping gas or
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whatever the hell they do. So what they do usually I went
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to a new dentist today because I have a new insurance company.
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So I, she was like amazed that I wouldn't take anything.
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And she was like, what, what do you want to do?
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And I, I was like, do you have any straps?
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Because they usually strap me to a chair.
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My old dentist strap me to a chair because I do it naturally.
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So they didn't have any straps. She thought I was crazy, like I
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was in like in a scene asylum. And I said, just drill it.
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And she's like, Are you sure? And I was like, yeah, drill,
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drill my drill, drill the the cavity out or whatever the hell
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you doing so we can measure for a crown.
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So she was doing it and she's like, you OK?
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You OK? But I, I don't know if anybody
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knows this. If you've never used Novocaine
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or you never used any of that stuff, eventually your gums go
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numb because it, it's, it's so painful.
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Your whole body, it starts to, I, I mean, you start to sweat
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all this stuff because of pain. So my body is so used to it and
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she's like just absolutely amazed.
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So she kept stopping. She's like, you OK?
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You OK? I was like, yeah, just get the
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whole, get the thing out of my mouth.
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So she drilled it and she measured it.
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And at the end of my, my time over there with the dentist, she
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was like, I, I've never seen that before.
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I've never been in a patient. The last time I've seen this was
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my parents when I was in like the 1970s because they didn't
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really have all the stuff that they have now.
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She's like, I've never seen anybody have, you know, do
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cavities or even root canals. What do you do with root canals?
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I said, I, I've had two root canals one time and, and the
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last root canal I had, they didn't, they didn't give me any
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novocaine because I'm allergic to it.
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I'm definitely allergic to novocaine.
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Like my face blows up. I'd be rushed to a hospital.
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I would need an EpiPen for Novocaine.
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So they have all different things they have like sleeping
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gas or laughing gas or whatever the hell they do, but they, this
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particular dentist didn't have it.
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So I was like, just just do it. And she was like, after the, I
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told Brittany, because Brittany after I got back to the, you
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know, got back home and she, I was here collecting all my
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laundry. She was like, well, what did
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they do? I said they were drilling out my
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mouth and shaping up for the crown.
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She's like, are they, did they give you anything?
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I said, you know, I'm allergic to novocaine.
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So she's like, what did they do? I said, they just drilled it out
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of my mouth. So my mouth went numb and my
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mouth is starting to just come back and I'm starting to feel
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that I'm in pain. So I just want to let everybody
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know I'm here doing the show, but it's I am definitely in pain
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right now dealing with all the different vibrations on one side
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of the mouth and the other. So sweetie, I have you ever gone
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into a dentist and ever have that done to you?
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I mean, obviously. Not without ovocating.
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Not without ovocating. I had my wisdom teeth pulled
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when I was in college. Actually my my wisdom teeth came
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up so I didn't have to worry about.
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That Oh, wow. OK, Yeah.
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So all four of them actually popped out when I was like 1819
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years. Yeah, I, I, I think it was after
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my freshman year in college, I had it pulled with, with the
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Novocaine. I remember I was like 3 days.
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I felt very like twisted in my mouth a lot of the time.
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And then I attempted to front on that Friday, I somehow was able
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to broadcast a soccer game that my college network was
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broadcasting. And I I toughed through it, but
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I definitely was still feeling some of the effects of it.
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She was like absolutely amazed. Even the nurse that was there or
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the medical assistant that was, you know, holding my hand, she
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was like, I have never seen that before.
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I've never seen somebody not take novocaine, not take
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anything and deal with the pain that you're probably dealing
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with. And I'm like, after you get used
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to it, I start, I realized that I was allergic to Novocaine when
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I was like 22 years old. So, and I, I remember I was
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rushed to the hospital because my mom, they all of a face, all
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of a sudden my face like blew up like literally my lip blew up
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massively. So I was rushed to the hospital
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and they, they told me that I'm allergic to novocaine and thank
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God you were rushed to the hospital.
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You could be deadly, you know, deathly allergic to it.
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So I, I, so they gave me, I now I always carry around, I don't
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know if anybody does this. I carry around an EpiPen because
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if anything happens, I touch novocaine.
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I can definitely be allergic to it.
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So that's the only thing I'm really that I know that I'm
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allergic to that and certain grass because I've had the I
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went to the allergy doctor and and they tested me for all those
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different things. But novocaine is like the one
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thing that I'm deathly allergic to.
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My friend Mike, he's allergic to strawberries.
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If he touches a strawberry, he could he could, he could die
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from. My uncle's the same way, he's
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allergic like 4 different fruits for strawberries, blueberries, I
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think it's Peaches and pineapple.
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It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.
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I didn't believe it until my face blew up.
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So I'm always worried. I always tell her, you know,
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make sure there's no novocaine around me.
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I don't want to be, I don't want to be rushed to the hospital,
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but that's why in my in my car, I actually carry an EpiPen.
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So because I don't know, I mean, who carries around novocaine?
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I mean, what are the chances you bumping into novocaine?
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But anything's possible. So I'm always careful when I go
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to a dentist. This story has been beating on
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the surface. I mean absolutely beating on the
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surface. Tony Clark resigns as the head
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of the MLB Players Association. ESP.
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NS Jeff Passan reports that the head of the MLB Players
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Association, Tony Clark, has stepped down from his position
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after an investigation uncovering and inappropriate
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sexual relationship with his sister-in-law who was a union
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employee working with Clark in the Arizona offices.
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Clark's wife's sister, Francis Clark, yes, was the only
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employee employee outside of Clark that had access to the
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special. I'm sorry to the specially made
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league office Clark had built for himself.
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The inappropriate relationship was uncovered in an ongoing
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federal investigation by the Eastern District of New York,
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which apparently started in 2023, the same year the
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sister-in-law was hired by the union.
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The Athletic reports that Deputy Executive Director Bruce Meyer,
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who has been with the MLB since 2022, was the unanimous voted
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and was unanimously voted as the interim executive director of
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the MLBPA. The MLBPA voting subcommittee
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included veteran pitcher Chris Bassett and the best pitcher in
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the game, Tarik Scubal. Scubal has said he believes that
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the MLBPA is stronger than ever and believes that Meyer can do
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just as well, if not better than Clark in contract negotiations.
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The biggest issues in the CBA seem to revolve around the
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deferred Dodgers adding Kyle Tucker this offseason, leading
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to calls for salary cap from owners.
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The current CBA expires December 1st and the MLBPA says they want
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to do everything they can to not, I mean not have any games
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cancelled in 2027 and the season.
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I will say this, I don't know much about this story besides
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what has been posted all over social media.
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It's been a laughing stock, an absolute laughing stock.
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And it's something that really, But first of all, that beer that
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Tony Clark has, it's got to go. It's absolutely got to go.
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It's ugly, ugly as sin. He looks like Santa Claus, you
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know, lost his best friend. I don't know, he actually looks
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like an elf, like Santa's elf. Nevertheless, you think about
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this story and, and there's a lot of scandals, a lot of
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scandals of power, a lot of these big name owners.
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How many times have we seen stories from billionaire guys
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get caught with cheating on their wives or cheating on their
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their best friends, sisters, girlfriend, I mean everything.
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And we've heard so many stories over the years where people use
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their power to get what they want.
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Tony Clark has been the voice of the players for many, many
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years. And you think about the story
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and, and the backlash that this is going to collect, not only
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from the league as it's, you know, as a whole.
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But when you try to compare all the leagues, the NBA, the NHL
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and the NFL and all the scandals that have happened over the
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years, this is a scandal that you would be shocked about.
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Because think about it. Tony Clark ran the MLBPA.
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He built the Arizona office. He hired his sister.
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I'm sorry, His wife's sister, right?
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Am I right? It's his wife's sister.
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Just to sleep with her. I mean, think about it.
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Why did he hire her? I mean, she's making $100,000 a
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year. That's good money.
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I mean, what is she doing? Probably nothing.
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What do you need to do at the MLBPAI mean besides negotiate
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contracts? What is she making?
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Making phone calls and answering him.
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She's making 100K, so automatically that would be
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fishy. But the fact, the fact here is
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you look at the MLB and the strike, which could happen at
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the end of this year, there's no negotiations.
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And they wanted to start negotiations September 1st.
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That's what I've heard. And now you bring in Meyer.
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Now I know Tarek Schuble came out and he says that it might be
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in a better position than it ever was with Tony Clark, and
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that's great. Tarek comes out, he speaks for
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the players. That's great to hear, but there
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are more things going on in the MLB that meets the eye.
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Think about it, when everything that's happened, the betting
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scandal, the Ohtani scandals we have seen and it's happened
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strategically over the last three seasons.
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And now you you talk about the deferred Dodgers, which
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everybody is talking about and speaking about, and the fact
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that the Dodgers have won back-to-back championships.
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They've won three out of the last 6.
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They've dominated baseball. Why?
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Because they figured out a way to manipulate the salaries and
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the salary cap with deferred money.
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No, deferred money's been around forever, but now the league and
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owners need to look at this as a problem for baseball because
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nobody wants to see one team dominate every single year
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because they're buying players and getting the players to
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agree. Hey, you know what, We're going
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to bring you on with a signing bonus of 60 million, but we're
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not going to pay you for 12 years or we're going to pay you
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minimum amount of money because we're all about winning
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championships. And Tony Clark was set up in a
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position where he was going to be the face of this
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negotiations. One of the more important times
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for baseball to hit it out of the park.
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Think about it, Literally hit it out of the park because baseball
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has been growing. The WBC is around the corner.
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This could take baseball to another level.
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All the stars want to play in the WBAWBC right now.
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Think about it. Aaron Judge has never been,
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never played for Team USA, Never.
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Not, not in his time here in the major leagues.
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You think about all the players that have agreed to play in the
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WBC because they they want to play for their stars and
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stripes. They want to play for their
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Puerto Rican flag. They want to play for, you know,
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the Mexican flag, their colors. And it's not like that anymore
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because baseball, with all the money these players are being
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divided out to, there is no salary cap.
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This is the only sport out of the four major sports that
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doesn't really have a salary cap.
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And I believe it's been a problem forever.
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We, we, me and Jabba, off air, have argued this over and over
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and over again. Finally, Jabba has agreed with
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me that something needs to be done with the Dodgers.
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Now, he never said that the baseball's going to need or
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should push for a salary cap, but even if they negotiate
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something with the deferred money, there has to be some kind
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of cap to the salary. And then you, you talk about
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Clark in this scandal and how it affects the negotiations, while
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it affects it enormously, because if you look at Meyer,
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Meyer has not been in these conversations.
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It's been all Tony Clark. Now you're bringing another
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front guy, an interim guy. He might not be the guy in the
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future, but he's there now where he has the player's ear and
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unanimously he has every single player of the MLBPA behind him.
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And you wonder if he's put in this position to fail because
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baseball, especially the owners, are in the driver's seat.
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They know that they, they smell blood and they know that the
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situation that the MLB players are going to be in in the
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offseason is either you negotiate a deal that's fair to
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the owners and fair to the league as a whole, or we're
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going to go strike and, and the players are going to be pushing
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for it. Why?
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Because hey, you know what, if we're, we're in the driver's
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seat and we're pushing for this, the owners are going to try to
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push this forward. When the owners are multi
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billionaires. Do you think the owners give a
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crap if they're set out 5060 games this season, next season
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where they're going to get what they want, where there is some
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kind of cap, where the players aren't going to be making
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seventy, $80 million a year, 100%.
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And Tony Clark was the middle man.
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He was the guy that was going to be the driver in this, you know,
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on this bus. And now the bus is completely
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crashed with his sister-in-law, literally crashed with his
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sister-in-law. I know everybody makes jokes and
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there's memes out there that it's going to be really awkward.
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Thanksgiving and Christmas, great.
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I I could give a crap about the Clark family and how they get
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along with one another inside and out of their house.
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Who's sleeping with whose wife? I mean, this is a soap opera.
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The fact here is how does this affect the MOB and negotiations
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when December 1st comes around and it's going to come around
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quick. It always does.
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Baseball is going to go quick. We're going to have a new
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champion at the probably before December.
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And then we're going to be wondering, where does baseball
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go? Do they go into 2027?
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Like what was it 9596 when they went on strike where they missed
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practically every every part of the season?
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Or did they come to a negotiation where it makes sense
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for the owners and it makes sense for the players?
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And you know, the players are not going to agree to a salary
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cap. They're just not, absolutely
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not. So how does this work when you
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have a new guy in office and he doesn't know where these
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negotiate conversation, negotiating conversations have
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gone over the last, I don't know, 62 weeks, seven months
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because he wasn't in that room. He wasn't in those
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conversations. He knows about them.
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The players now have voted him in to put him in that position
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to figure out how he can negotiate these deals.
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But negotiations when it comes to multi billion dollar deals
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are not going to be easy to make.
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And and again, going back to the Dodgers, the Dodgers have really
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spun the wheel their way. And everybody's going to say,
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like Jabba has said over the last couple of months, he says,
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well, every team can do what the Dodgers did.
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Not necessarily. When you bring in players like
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Friedman or Betts or Otani, they got to believe that at the time
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when they're sitting with negotiations, they got to
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believe that this team is built good enough to run away with the
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championship. Now at the in the beginning, the
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Dodgers had to negotiate deals with Mookie Betts and Friedman.
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They gave him a a thought or they they set up a platter and
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they had to believe that they were going to finish that food.
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That food was edible enough to finish the season, to finish
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everything off, to win championships.
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Now you think about it and you look at the Tucker deal, it
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works for Tucker. It doesn't work for the league
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Tucker signed. What was it, a 4-5 year deal?
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Four years on 200 and 6200 and 40 million.
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Dollars which you can opt out after the second year.
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So he's getting money up front so he's happy and no matter
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what, if it doesn't work out with the Dodgers, he's in the
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driver's seat 2 years from now where he can opt out and make
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even more money. So to me, the players are and
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that's why the owners are really forcing their hand on this.
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They're going to force their hand on it because they have no
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control right now. It's the players that have all
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the control because of all the money they're going to be
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bringing in when these contracts, contracts up to
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fruition. Think about it.
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If you're a superstar or even a partial superstar in the league,
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let's say you're the 5th best player on that roster.
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Now you're making those fifth players on that roster are
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making no less than 30 or 32,000,000 a year and the best
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players are making 40 or 50 million a year and it's not
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sustainable anymore. And the owners are looking at
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that. So now you have guys like Tony,
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Tony, Tony Clark who's been out there, he's been in front, he's
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been on the front line speaking for the the players and and
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trying to figure out how this is going to work in negotiations in
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2000, at the end of 2026, going into the 2027 season.
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And you wonder after this scandal, are the owners in the
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driver's seat because now the players are sitting there.
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We had a leader, we had a guy that just created a huge
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problem, which has been the now it's going to go into the season
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as the biggest story going into the baseball season, you're,
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you're looking forward for pitchers and catchers.
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And, and, and obviously going into the new season and going
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into spring training, you don't want to hear that the strength
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of the players union is, is starting to tip the owner's way.
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And it is, it's starting to tip the owner's way and, and the
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commissioner works for the owners, he doesn't work for the
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players. So the commissioner and and Rob
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Manfred or Manfred or Manfred as Jabba calls him, you sit here
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and you wonder how does this, how is this going to work with a
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new representative and the players trusting this new
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representative who has no understanding of where the
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negotiations were going? I mean, obviously he's going to,
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he's got all the paperwork. He's got all the players that
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were in those conversations with Tony Clark to give him
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information. But he's going to be the guy
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that's going to be standing there and speaking for the
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players in front of all these owners and in front of the
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commissioner of baseball, wondering how do we protect the
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players and how do we make sure there's no strike going into
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2027? The two things I think Clark
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really emphasized when he was the head of the MLPA was the
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fact that they weren't going to have a salary cap and the
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pitchers that were injured and like I guess some of those
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selected position players too that had long term injuries with
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Tommy John's surgery and stuff like that.
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Those that money was not going to come out of the of the GM's
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pockets, which I think helped him get insurance policies.
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You talked about that with Garrett Cole last year when he
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got hurt, that they would still make that money anyway and it
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wouldn't have to be an unpaid thing.
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And it was a good negotiation at the time for compromising in
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that sense. Now you look, you bring in
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somebody new in Bruce Meyer that does not have a lot of
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experience, is even a deputy executive, kind of was a
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figurehead for a lot of Clark's things.
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Maybe that's why guys like Bassett and Scuba believe that
24:38
they have still a strong union, which I still believe they do.
24:41
It's just a very difficult extreme as well when you're
24:45
judging owners that are I think the most extreme in either
24:47
direction too. It's very rare in baseball.
24:49
I think compared to these other sports where you see owners that
24:51
are on this like good middle ground of wanting to pay players
24:56
reasonably and go from one extreme like the Dodgers and go
24:59
to the other extreme like the Pirates that are cheap asses
25:01
that don't that don't know how to control their players and
25:04
don't pay anyone. It's rare that you see an
25:06
Atlanta Braves, like Houston Astros type organization.
25:09
That's kind of somewhere in between.
25:10
And that's where I think you're also looking at the the divide
25:14
to be still a lockout. I think even regardless of who
25:16
the players association was. Do I still trust guys like
25:19
school ball to be forceful? Yeah, because look at how he was
25:23
in his own contract negotiations with the Tigers.
25:25
They were a big example of that. He wanted arbitration case,
25:27
thankfully, but the Tigers were low balling in the whole way.
25:32
There will be samples of that to an extent.
25:34
Will it be enough to prevent a lockout though in this extreme
25:36
direction? I still don't know.
25:38
I think it was even going to happen regardless.
25:39
And I just really don't know if you could trust Bruce Meyer at
25:42
this point to to save any chances of that one.
25:44
Yes, there are some owners that still are going to try to be
25:47
cheap anyway. But there's a lot of owners that
25:49
are annoyed at what the Dodgers are doing now.
25:51
And that's why I think they're still inevitably, I think
25:53
regardless, going to go on strike as it was.
25:55
There's no doubt baseball is going on strike.
25:58
There's no doubt about it. This is just a story that's
26:01
going to push it for that to happen.
26:04
But Tony Clark and and the story and again, we don't know the
26:08
full story. It just came out.
26:09
Everybody's making jokes. It is funny.
26:12
It's laughable because obviously you have a voice, the guy that
26:16
has been the voice for the players for what, 10 years now,
26:19
eight years now he's been running the show and and figure
26:23
out negotiations. Remember, what was it a couple
26:25
of years ago when we were talking about the minor leagues
26:27
and what the players are making and, and Tony Clark was the guy
26:30
that negotiated them a little bit more money.
26:32
He was the guy that stood there and, and spoke about how
26:36
important paying these AAA guys was, was not enough.
26:40
And, and how are they going to take care of their families and,
26:43
and move forward playing professional baseball?
26:45
How are they going to last in the minor leagues to be the next
26:48
superstar in the major leagues? So Tony Clark was the the face
26:52
of that negotiation. Now, you would have expected
26:54
Tony Clark was going to be the guy that's going to change
26:57
baseball, give baseball an opportunity in, in this
27:01
particular predicament that they've put themselves in.
27:04
And, and, and again, the reason why I say the players put
27:07
themselves in this situation is because they don't want to agree
27:10
to any salary cap. They don't want to agree to any
27:12
of it. And then you think about the
27:14
Dodgers and what the Dodgers have done and a lot of the
27:16
players that we've had on the show, not all of them, but most
27:19
of them have come out and said that, say that they agree.
27:22
If if the Dodgers want to do that, it's legal, why shouldn't
27:25
they be able to do that? But here's the problem, since
27:28
the Dodgers started to do that and everybody says, well,
27:31
everybody can mimic it, that's not true.
27:33
They cannot copycat what the Dodgers did.
27:36
Everybody's got to agree to it. The every single player that
27:39
they're negotiating a deal with has to agree to terms on how
27:44
this is going to work. I mean, do you think Mookie
27:47
Betts was sitting there? Now, Mookie Betts got a lot of
27:50
his money and Friedman, there was some deferred money with
27:52
Betts and Friedman. But I, I mean, half of these
27:55
guys that we've seen over the last couple of years have come
27:59
to an agreement because they want other players to come and
28:02
join them to win more and more championships.
28:05
But here's the problem with baseball.
28:07
If you're expecting these teams to win championships and
28:09
everybody's going to say go back to the Yankees in the 90's, the
28:13
Yankees did not do that. I'll go back to it and I am
28:16
going to stand up. Not because I'm a Yankee fan and
28:18
I'm wearing a Yankee hat. That's not true.
28:21
That's not why I'm sticking up for the Yankees.
28:23
If anybody knows me on the show, I am fair about who I think the
28:27
Yankees are and even all my teams.
28:29
I'm not going to sit there and stick up for all my teams and be
28:31
a Homer. I'm not Aaron Fishman.
28:34
I'm just not. But here's the facts.
28:38
That's true. I'm not Aaron Fishman.
28:40
You're wearing a Yankee hat. But you know, you're right.
28:44
Nobody wants to be. But here's the fact.
28:47
I'm just, I'm speaking the truth here.
28:49
I, I, I, I want to go into why I think the Yankees cannot be
28:54
compared to what the Dodgers are today.
28:56
One, the New York Yankees built around a core.
28:59
They built around players they drafted over the years.
29:03
You talk about how you define an organization, you got to define
29:07
it in the minors. The Yankees brought in, I'll say
29:09
it again, Derek Jeter, they drafted Bernie Williams, they
29:12
drafted Andy Pettitte, they drafted Mariano Rivera, they
29:16
drafted Jorge Posada. They built around a core of five
29:20
players. They call it the core 4, but
29:22
they were really five players. And what they did is they
29:25
developed those players and then brought veterans around them.
29:29
Were successful, a success, successful in their professional
29:33
spots in the past or weren't as successful with their teams like
29:38
Scott Brosius, who was a good player but not a great player
29:41
until he went to the Yankees and they brought them to a team that
29:45
had good camaraderie and and that changed everything.
29:48
Scott Brosius became a subpar player at best to a playoff MVP.
29:54
OK, you talk about guys like Charlie Hayes, a journeyman Wade
29:59
Boggs, Hall of Famer. But at the tail end of his
30:01
career, he played for Tampa, he played for obviously the Red
30:05
Sox, played for the Yankees. His career was pretty much after
30:09
he turned 3233 years old, his career was pretty much jumped
30:13
from one team to another and try to figure out how to win a
30:15
championship, which he never won with Boston.
30:18
So you think about all the players, that's just some Rodger
30:21
Clements, David Wells, I could go on.
30:23
Jimmy Key, I could go on and on and on with some of the players
30:26
they brought to this organization.
30:27
What the Yankees did was completely different and
30:30
everybody says they bought their players.
30:31
They only bought their players in 2009.
30:34
Me and Job. I've had that conversation
30:36
again. Think about it.
30:37
AJ Burnett, remember him. Mark Teixeira, remember him.
30:42
CC Sabathia, remember him? They spent $500 million in an
30:46
offseason because they wanted to win a championship.
30:49
Actually, Hal and Hank wanted to win a championship for their
30:52
father, who passed away in 2010, 2011.
30:55
They wanted to make sure that their father had an opportunity
30:58
to experience another championship before he parted
31:01
ways with the earth. And they did that.
31:04
But when they made a move for Alex Rodriguez, Alex Rodriguez
31:07
was thrown to the Yankees. They failed.
31:10
The Red Sox failed to seal the deal, and the Yankees jump in
31:13
and stole them from them. And over the years, yeah, they
31:16
brought Jason Giambi. They brought players in that
31:19
didn't succeed. But what the Dodgers have done
31:22
is completely different. And you're going to say how?
31:25
How is it different? Simple.
31:26
It's very simple. The Dodgers have one guy they
31:30
drafted on their complete roster and in their lineup.
31:33
Do you know who that is, Speedy? Π as I believe.
31:36
No, it's their catcher. Oh, Smith.
31:38
Smith is their guy. He he's the guy.
31:41
He was the face of that offense over the last couple of years.
31:45
They brought, they drafted Smith.
31:46
They brought they, they put Smith centerfold as their their
31:50
guy that they're, I guess they built around from their
31:52
organization. And then who did they bring in?
31:54
They brought in stars. They brought in good players,
31:57
Hernandez, Edmonds, they brought in all these guys, Friedman
32:01
bats, Otani. That's what they did.
32:04
They bought their way into a championship.
32:07
Look at their pitching staff. Are any of those guys guys that
32:12
were developed by the Dodgers? No, they were not.
32:16
So when you look at the Dodgers and you compare the Dodgers to
32:18
the Yankees, they're uncomparable.
32:21
They're uncomparable because what the Yankees did in the 90s,
32:25
nobody thought was ever going to be matched.
32:27
Why? Because baseball is so different
32:29
now with the rule changes and even with 162 games, a lot of
32:35
these managers aren't pitching them every fifth day.
32:37
They're pitching them every 6th or 7th day because they want to
32:40
save their arms for the playoffs.
32:42
It's different. It's completely different
32:44
because of analytics WAR, as we know.
32:47
We're trying to figure out how analytics bring baseball to the
32:51
forefront of professional sports, which it has been over
32:55
the years. I got to give baseball a little
32:56
bit of credit because they designed ways of adding new
33:00
statistics and data that makes you sick to your stomach.
33:03
It really does. I am not a statistician.
33:06
I'm not a data analysis guy, but I sit here and you're telling me
33:10
what all these different analytics or different things
33:14
that have been brought to the forefront that help baseball
33:17
recognize you as a defensive player, a base dealer or a power
33:21
hitter. It makes you sick to your
33:22
stomach. And then you have guys like Tony
33:24
Clark who sits in the back end making all the money and he's
33:29
the guy that sits there and listens to the players woes.
33:32
Sits there and gives the players some information of what the
33:36
owners are saying about them. And then goes there and pretty
33:39
much sleeps with your wife or sleeps with your girlfriend or
33:42
sleeps with your aunt or, you know, sleeps with whoever.
33:45
I mean, it's pathetic. And now baseball, and I'll say
33:49
this, the players union, it's to me, it's set up in a way where I
33:54
don't know if Myers was the right guy unanimously being
33:58
picked maybe as a puppet to the players.
34:00
Maybe that's what it is. Unanimously he was picked
34:02
because hey, you know what? We're going to tell you what to
34:05
say, Meyer, and you're going to do what we tell you to do and
34:08
you're going to make millions and millions of dollars.
34:09
If it doesn't work out, well, we'll find some other idiot to
34:12
do that too. So I think it's a big problem
34:15
and I don't know how this is going to work for the players
34:18
when these owners, these multi billionaires are sitting there
34:21
with their lawyers and telling you go after yourself.
34:23
We're going to we're we're going to drive a seat now tell Tony
34:26
Clark to go sleep with your wives.
34:28
Go, go tell them to sleep with your aunts or uncles.
34:32
It it to me, it's really, really bad for baseball.
34:35
This is not a story like betting on baseball or steroids, as
34:39
everybody blew it out of proportion.
34:41
But this is bad. Really bad.
34:43
Yeah, again, you also mentioned the discrepancy of contracts too
34:46
in baseball. That I think is also a bigger
34:48
extreme. I'm not saying obviously,
34:49
obviously the Dodgers are one extreme into the other, but I
34:51
think it seemed like the Giants, obviously they're paying Rafael
34:53
Devers a ton of money, but their next biggest contract is not
34:56
great. And like you said, how much is
34:57
the fourth or fifth highest paid player on the team making it
35:00
might be like 15,000,000 a year or 20 million a year, if
35:03
anything. And then even the lower market
35:04
team. So they might have that one big
35:06
contract and they just have a big drop off after that too.
35:09
And that's been a problem for a while.
35:10
That was even before we're talking about this with the
35:12
deferred money, with the lockout.
35:14
I think that was even happening before that were remember how
35:16
long it took somebody like Eric Hosmer to sign when he signed,
35:19
before he signed with the Padres and it took him until the end of
35:22
that, that spring training. The Yankees did that with
35:25
Mayhew, I believe when they signed him too.
35:26
Like they took forever. It really took to the end of
35:29
that because I just weren't sure because he was a not a power
35:32
guy. He was a bat batting champion.
35:33
Obviously he was a good, great defensive player when the
35:35
Yankees brought him in and then they settled on A7 year
35:38
$81,000,000 deal, which at the time seemed like a bargain,
35:40
maybe didn't age well, but he still was a pretty good Yankee
35:43
for the most part until maybe the last couple years.
35:46
And that's the problem I think that I think MLB has because
35:49
they want to pay those stars, especially the younger stars.
35:51
They want to pay them all very quickly.
35:52
And that's why you're seeing obviously a Braves model that I
35:55
think other teams are now starting to replicate, but took
35:57
a while for them to replicate. I think Fish you brought up with
35:59
the A's recently. They did it with Brent Rooker,
36:03
they did it with Langoliers. They they've done it with
36:05
they've done it with Jacob Wilson.
36:07
I think it was the one you were talking about.
36:08
And now I you want to see teams replicate that to an extent with
36:12
a with younger teams if they're going to be continuing to have a
36:14
payroll discrepancy. But now with the potential
36:17
lockout looming, like, do you want all that money going
36:19
against you when you don't even know how these players develop
36:21
if they take a year off from baseball?
36:22
So there's a lot of factors in with a lot of different young
36:24
teams and just a lot of teams all in different places.
36:27
Yeah, no fool over there in, in I guess not Oakland anymore, I
36:30
guess Sacramento for the time being.
36:33
They they've jumped on that Soderstrom, Lawrence, Butler,
36:36
other guys they've they've locked up.
36:39
It's a smart model. The Braves did, it didn't work
36:41
out for them because everyone got hurt this past year and they
36:43
had some down years, but they've been really competitive because
36:46
of that model without a top payroll.
36:48
But this is the the worry, right, Errol?
36:51
Now Tony Clark's gone, Meyer's in there.
36:53
He's only been with baseball for three years, right?
36:56
Since 20/22/23. Whatever it was as the deputy,
36:59
how well is he going to represent the fact that the
37:02
players have certain wants as well in this negotiation?
37:05
It's not just this deferred money with the salary cap.
37:08
It's also, you know, like the revenue sharing, how is that
37:12
going to work going forwards with the streaming dollars?
37:16
That's one of the main issues, how the players are going to get
37:18
compensated for that, how that's going to replace the money from
37:22
the regional networks. Like yes, network and SNY are
37:25
still doing well, but throughout the country these places have
37:28
failed. Like, I think it's just like TB,
37:30
like the Turner stations have still done.
37:32
And obviously they're, they're bigger than a regional station,
37:35
but there's, there's very few like baseball things that have
37:39
survived. So the model is being changed
37:42
and there's a lot of fights about how that money is going to
37:44
go and who's got the players interests.
37:47
Not a good look for the players. And they're probably better off
37:50
holding out than even trying to make a deal right now if this is
37:53
what it is, Because I, I, I'm really concerned.
37:56
And then Clark on top of it, man, it reminded me immediately
37:59
of the Bobby Petrino story years ago when he's like trying to get
38:02
away on the motorcycle. He gets in an accident with his
38:04
mistress and then they try to cover it up.
38:07
Like, you know, he didn't have a mistress who he was pretending
38:09
it was assistant. You know what I mean, Pet?
38:11
Getting paid on the school dime. That's exactly what he did here,
38:14
except. It's even worse.
38:16
It's so much. Worse, because they've had these
38:18
labor talks coming up and now he's screwing the entire league
38:21
of players on top of screwing his wife's sister.
38:24
And then think about it. You're not just breaking up your
38:26
marriage, you're breaking up like family.
38:30
You're wrecking your first cousins, your second cousins,
38:33
your aunts and the aunts and uncles in there.
38:35
Like everything that you're like connected to is screwed up.
38:39
And that is just I mean, that's all time scumbag behavior and
38:44
he's got to go and I don't they did it.
38:46
They put Meyer in because I think they're really desperate.
38:49
They don't know what to do, He. Stepped down.
38:51
It's not like they fired him. He stepped down right away.
38:54
When this story came out, he ran, He made sure that he gave
38:57
his papers in and he wants to disappear off the face of the
39:00
earth because he not only is his family brought to the forefront
39:03
and his wife, I feel bad for his wife because she's she's in the
39:07
middle of this. She has nothing to do with it.
39:09
And and she's in the middle of it.
39:11
Think about this. His wife and her sister.
39:15
OK, think about that. How how disrespectful can you
39:19
get when it comes to being, you know, a man And and you're going
39:24
to go out there and you're, you're all about when you get
39:26
married, You're, you're there to death through your part.
39:28
And then you're sleeping with my sister.
39:31
How long has this been going on? You know, so think about it.
39:34
And maybe this was the whole point of why you think about
39:38
baseball as a whole. All the different allegations
39:41
that we've seen over the last couple of years, how baseball's
39:43
brushed everything under the rug.
39:45
I was thinking, hey, this story came out.
39:47
If if this story never came out, does baseball brush this under
39:50
the rug? Because the Otani stuff, I mean,
39:53
Tony Clark is not Shay Otani. Shay Otani is the national
39:57
phenom. He's a superstar all over the
40:00
world. So baseball made sure they
40:01
protected their young. Superstar and made sure that
40:04
they can continue making billions and billions of dollars
40:07
this guy the baseball don't give a crap about So what did
40:09
baseball do baseball and the owners we're excited about this
40:13
why because now they don't have to deal with Tony Clark anymore.
40:16
They don't have to deal with his craziness and and him stepping
40:19
up there and and and telling the owners to go kiss that kiss
40:22
their asses. No, now the owners are sitting
40:25
there and saying OK we're in the driver's seat.
40:28
We don't have to deal with Tony anymore and now we have to deal
40:31
with some rookie who knows nothing about the position he's
40:34
in. And and you have a bunch of
40:36
billionaires saying, OK, this is what we're going to do.
40:38
You don't like it, Well, tough. This is the deal we're giving
40:41
you. If not, what you guys can go to
40:43
strike. We're still going to be in the
40:44
driver's seat. And you guys are going to be
40:46
asking for scraps because we're not going to give it to you the
40:49
way you have asked over the years.
40:51
Because the union has always been in the driver's seat.
40:54
The players union has always been that way.
40:57
And we, we know what happened in 9596 because of what happened in
41:00
9596 is the same thing what we've seen over the years.
41:04
But here's the bad thing. We have seen organizations
41:07
completely fall apart as we know what happened to the Expos.
41:11
The Montreal Expos could not afford to miss that season, that
41:15
year, and they did. And with being that they lost
41:18
all that money they had to sell the team and eventually Jeffrey
41:21
Laurie move them to where to Washington and and and Montreal
41:27
and, and I believe if the if that if 9596, it never went to
41:31
strike baseball, never went to strike Montreal.
41:34
The Montreal Expos would still be here.
41:36
They'd still be a part of the major leagues and.
41:38
Probably they were the best team in the league arrow that year.
41:41
Probably would have won the team in the league, probably would
41:43
have won the World Series too. That's, that's, that was my take
41:45
there. I with all the talent that they
41:47
had, Pedro Martinez and Vladimir Guerrero and all those talented
41:51
players that have Galarago I think was on that team.
41:54
They had guys that are Hall of Famers.
41:56
They might have had 7 Walker, yes, 7 or 8 Hall of Famers that
42:00
were part of that organization and they were traded away, moved
42:04
away. I remember John Wetland, he was
42:06
the Yankees closer when they won, They won their first
42:09
championship in 96. So the Yankees were absolutely
42:12
in the driver's seat when they got players of that, that Expo
42:15
team. So I'm just saying when you look
42:18
at where baseball's at now, I don't think any teams are in
42:21
those predicaments anymore because there's so much money to
42:23
be made with the new TV deals and, and all, all the different
42:27
ways they can make money off of hats and jerseys and and merch.
42:31
There's no way that any of these teams are in in bad, a bad
42:35
position where if they miss the season or owners, they miss the
42:38
season, they're they're going to lose out.
42:39
They're not because they own other businesses and they have
42:43
other opportunities to make money.
42:44
It's the players that are going to lose out on this.
42:47
After what Tony Clark did. This is bad.
42:49
This is, this is bad for the players, not the owners, not for
42:52
baseball. And I know everybody's going to
42:54
say, well, the owners want baseball to keep on going.
42:56
And, and I'm, I do believe that I think the owners are behind
42:59
what they want baseball to do in 2000, 26 and 27.
43:03
That's as far as 27 season is to have a season.
43:07
Here's the problem. If they miss this season and
43:11
they lose money, they have ways that they can use that through
43:14
insurance policies. There are so many ways that
43:17
these owners are still not going to lose as much, but not having
43:21
a season. The fans are going to lose out,
43:23
the players are going to lose out.
43:25
Remember, each player that misses season, they miss out
43:28
another year of money and another year of compensation
43:32
that they're going to lose. And you're talking about players
43:34
like Garrett Cole that's going to miss out on $38 million.
43:38
How about, how about Juan Soto, $68 million he's going to miss
43:43
out on. You think Juan Soto wants to
43:44
miss out on $68 million? Not a chance in hell.
43:47
Because if I'm not mistaken, if you go on strike, you don't get
43:50
those contracts, you don't get that money.
43:51
I don't. I don't know if that's true.
43:53
So there's labor lockout. The contracts are null and void
43:56
until they come back. That's right.
43:57
So think about this. Juan Soto misses out on 68,
44:02
$1,000,000. They don't want that.
44:04
Players do not want that. So they thought by having Tony
44:08
Clark negotiate this deal before September 1st, that would put
44:12
them in the driver's seat to have a season in 2027.
44:15
There is no way there. It's going to start the season
44:17
without without going on a strike because they got to pull
44:21
the first of all, you're going into a season and a lot of these
44:24
players want to concentrate on the season.
44:26
The union doesn't want these players to worry about next
44:29
season. They want to worry about this
44:30
season and how they they, they, they fight to, to continue
44:33
making their money and, and get these teams into the playoffs
44:36
and win a championship. So they're not even going to be
44:39
speaking about until September 1st or September, you know, in
44:42
sometime in September when the playoffs are going on and the
44:45
seasons practically over. So unfortunately, you're
44:49
wondering as a baseball fan, and I know there's a lot of baseball
44:51
fans, including speedy, which is favorite sport, Josh Silverberg,
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who which is his favorite sport out of all the sports that don't
44:58
want to see another or one season of their God-given lives
45:03
miss when it comes to baseball and getting a chance, Oh, quote,
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UN quote, the Mets winning the World Series.
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But the Mets and the Dodgers are the reason why this strike might
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go to fruition, because of all the money that they've been
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spending and, and, and obviously the deferred money that the
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Dodgers completely have taking advantage.
45:19
Of yeah, that's aren't smart enough to use deferred money,
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unfortunately. Well, they are actually.
45:23
They did with the contract with Beau Beauchet.
45:27
Finally, after all these big contracts, before that, Maxers
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are Justin Verlander. Yeah, they did.
45:31
So that's the thing though, right?
45:33
Like that's why the owners want a salary cap, because most of
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the owners in the league don't want to do the deferred dollars,
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because what the deferred dollars are is just what stock
45:43
guys do, hedge funds guys do on Wall Street all the time.
45:47
They're just creating future debt against the value of the
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franchise, which isn't worth close to the value.
45:53
So it's just like, it doesn't matter.
45:56
It's like they're trading stocks and the future debt, it doesn't
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apply. They don't have to pay into the
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revenue sharing the same if it's deferred to a later contract.
46:05
So it's like a loophole that they're exploiting.
46:08
And until other teams do the same thing as the Dodgers and
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leverage their future with debt, they're going to keep winning.
46:16
Or you do a salary cap and and just nip it in the bud.
46:20
Or you just say no more deferred contracts exceeding this amount
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of money and all the deferred money has to count against both
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today's salary cap and and then the penalty when it you know
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you're paying it out like Bobby Benia style.
46:31
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47:27
You guys, all of them fish with the back end stuff.
47:30
Tommy poops with the video and audio there.
47:33
Yeah, I'm doing the salt and pepper.
47:36
You just made my nipples hard. I don't know if I made his
47:38
nipples hard, but I it made my nipples hard looking at that
47:41
sexy face doing whatever the hell I was doing.
47:45
Yeah, we'll be back on Monday. Who do we have on on Mondays?
47:48
All right, joining the show, another one.
47:49
Thanks to Nathan for getting him at 8:30.
47:51
Another former Seahawks, Seahawks, Cowboys, Ravens and
47:54
Colts former safety Ken Hammer and will be joining us.
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He tastes himself. I doubt he tastes himself.
48:00
Oh, somebody does. This makes my pecker.
48:02
Hard. Well, there is somebody that
48:03
probably gets his pecker rammed. I got to go back off now.
48:08
The all we call, the only one we call Nath, the blue blazer
48:13
himself not wearing his blue blazer tonight in his jail cell
48:17
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