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Oscar Preview 2026 · Cuff’s Basement

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  Speaker 1: Cuff's Basement. I'm your co host Tim. Hey, everyone, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm with my cost Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry took the gun cut.
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  Speaker 1: We'll start over, sure, No, and we have a very
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  Speaker 1: we have a very special guest with us. We'll continueing
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  Speaker 1: our world tour because we haven't a podcast in my
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  Speaker 2: That's right, we haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's Eric Lee. Thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: for having me back. Anyone know how many years we've
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  Speaker 1: done this. I don't know we've done it, so I
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  Speaker 1: think the first year we did it was the year
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  Speaker 1: that What's the Look Tarantino movie with Margot Roby and
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  Speaker 1: Leo Once Upon a Time in Hollywood twenty nineteen. I
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  Speaker 1: think because I remember that year, I didn't watch any
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  Speaker 1: of the movies and I hadn't seen them Once upon
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  Speaker 1: a Time in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was COVID because they were all available
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  Speaker 2: on demand, so that it was like twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: I could be I don't know. I also, after I
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  Speaker 1: asked that question, I got the sense of deja vu
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  Speaker 1: that maybe we started last year's podcast with me asking
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  Speaker 1: the same question.
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  Speaker 2: That could be true.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows life is a flat circle? As they say,
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  Speaker 1: it's true, time is a flat circle. We that's from
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  Speaker 1: a true detective Russkole. Let me see Oscar preview twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four. What's Oscar preview? This is twenty one? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: twenty one at least I'm trying to see. Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I believe what Ryan said. Okay, anyways,
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  Speaker 1: this is the Oscar preview. So the oscars are on
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  Speaker 1: what date?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I have no idea This Sunday, the fourteenth March.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's later this year, Mark or Oscar date Saturday
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  Speaker 1: the fourteenth, Sunday the fifteenth, Okay, and we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six Academy Awards based on the films
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  Speaker 1: from twenty twenty five. We always do this every year
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  Speaker 1: with Eric, we do. We're always doing it at his place.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and I have a present for Ryan. I forgot this.
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  Speaker 1: I have no present for Eric. W So, Ryan, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be so just actually you're not gonna be disappointed.
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  Speaker 1: This is gonna blow your fucking mind, that says. So
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  Speaker 1: it's wrapped in a T shirt that is yours. But
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna just absolutely love this. I want to ask you,
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  Speaker 1: do you think this is a vinyl?
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  Speaker 2: I do think yes, Okay, is it inside the shirt.
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  Speaker 1: Of it's better than a vinyl.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, here's a Cat Wars, a Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: cat calendar, a calendar.
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  Speaker 1: It's February.
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  Speaker 2: It's the end of February, and.
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  Speaker 1: I got your calendar.
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  Speaker 2: All right, this is really nice, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's capped with like l savers and shooting
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  Speaker 1: like Emperor lightning out of their pause.
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  Speaker 2: The jokes on these are really good too, like what
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  Speaker 2: lasers we must chase when we strike CSG will not.
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  Speaker 1: The cover says in a Galaxy not far away, cats
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  Speaker 1: rule all caps, explanation point and the cat's shooting landing
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  Speaker 1: out of his hands. Now I will ask you one
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  Speaker 1: favor though. I bought it with the intent of it
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  Speaker 1: being a twelve month calendar, and then I realized it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty expensive because it's eighteen months, So could you
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  Speaker 1: vemmo me for the six extra months?
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  Speaker 2: It has a price crossed down? Who's eleven ninety nine?
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  Speaker 2: You want twelve dollars? Let's keep it?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, just for the of the
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  Speaker 1: additional six months after the year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you want me to add more? Okay, sure, I'll
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  Speaker 2: pay an extra.
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  Speaker 1: As a copyright and trademark attorney, I also have some
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  Speaker 1: questions here.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the description of what's going to happen this
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  Speaker 2: year in Cat Wars, an epic battle of good versus
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  Speaker 2: evil stretches to all corners of the galaxy. Will it
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  Speaker 2: be a cat catastrophe?
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  Speaker 1: Nice?
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  Speaker 2: Who will triumph in a legendary battle? Cats fight to
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  Speaker 2: restore justice and balance to the galaxy. These kitty Warriors
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  Speaker 2: attempt to vanquish all evil in the universe, whether it
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  Speaker 2: be a b mouse, whether it be mouse or other feline.
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  Speaker 2: No foe is too small or too large to feel
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  Speaker 2: the sting of righteousness. And the cat wars have begun
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  Speaker 2: and the battle is coming to you. Don't worry your
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  Speaker 2: whiskers though, We're pretty sure they are good triumphs over villainy.
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  Speaker 1: And like, what's so great about this is Ryan collects
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  Speaker 1: vinyl records and I bought that without even thinking of
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  Speaker 1: a vinyl record. And then when I wrapped it in
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  Speaker 1: the T shirt, I go, oh, my god, Ryan is
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  Speaker 1: going to be positive. I got him a vinyl record
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  Speaker 1: and he's gonna be so disappointed when he finds.
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  Speaker 2: You know what. The sad thing is, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: like I bought a calendar to put in our kitchen
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  Speaker 2: like no, like no, less than two weeks ago, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, why did I SnO this? I would behind
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  Speaker 2: this up nice? This is great. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: M Er.
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  Speaker 1: You won't try this, It's pretty good. Yes, this is
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  Speaker 1: Monster Pacific Punch, also a sponsored juice Monster Juice Pacific Punch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that. It's not bad. It's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: I path actually did this too for a while, which
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  Speaker 1: I respected that it's not just me. When I do
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  Speaker 1: it's a sober month. I usually consume energy drinks as
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  Speaker 1: like my vice for the month. Yeah, I can't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand how you're drinking energy drinks at like eight
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  Speaker 1: thirty pm. You're not gonna be up all night. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I need to be my best I need to have
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  Speaker 1: my game place on for the pod. True, but also
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  Speaker 1: uh no, I mean with CC like I could fall
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  Speaker 1: asleep at the I'm I'm the amount of sleep that
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  Speaker 1: I have is never ending, Like I could fall asleep
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  Speaker 1: in seconds. It's not gonna be a problem.
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  Speaker 2: But you don't.
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  Speaker 1: You don't consume caffeine, not not in any regular way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean like I'll have I'll have tea sometimes this
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  Speaker 1: long time listeners. Now, I don't drink coffee and never
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  Speaker 1: drunk a cup of coffee. But you really don't have caffeine.
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  Speaker 1: You went through law school without caffeine.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 1: And two kids. That's crazy to me. Actually, two kids
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  Speaker 1: is more crazy than law school without caffeine. Yeah, pardon me.
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  Speaker 1: Wants to just start now, But I've held out so long.
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  Speaker 1: I never did it until college because I thought I like,
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  Speaker 1: I needed caffeine to study and like stay up and
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  Speaker 1: write papers. And then when I became completely I never
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  Speaker 1: drank coffee, never liked coffee in high school, and then
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  Speaker 1: in college because I would start doing that, I became
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  Speaker 1: like very addicted to coffee, and I still am. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it's so guys and girls and non binaries. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the ten Best Picture nominees, but also
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to touch base on So what we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do is we're gonna go We did a ranked quoting,
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  Speaker 1: so you don't know the order. You don't know the order,
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  Speaker 1: but you both sent me your ranked choices for Best Picture.
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  Speaker 1: And then I calculated what we collectively as a total
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  Speaker 1: ranked and the math I did was like whatever number
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  Speaker 1: you have in order. So if Eric had a movie nine,
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  Speaker 1: you had a movie two, and I had a movie three,
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  Speaker 1: that'd be a total of fifteen points, and the lowest
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  Speaker 1: number total for each movie comes in first or second
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  Speaker 1: or some one on some port. But when you first
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  Speaker 1: wanted to touch on movies that were not nominated for
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  Speaker 1: Best Picture, I have nothing I want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: There's no movies that I watched that were not nominated
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  Speaker 1: for Best Picture. But you two always have some things
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  Speaker 1: to touch on. I think it's useful to touch base
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  Speaker 1: on some of the other ones, for sure. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let me run through a few animated feature film. You
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen any of these? K Pop A, Demon Hunters, Nope,
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  Speaker 1: very bud Box, shitbox, shit rocks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I think you should call it shitbox. I was surprised, Uh, Ilio,
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  Speaker 1: that was this year? Yeah, nominated. I loved I And
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  Speaker 1: oh no, I didn't. I didn't know that that was
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  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, for some reason in my head, I
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  Speaker 1: thought Luke. In my head, I felt Luca, But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I did see. We watched it, and uh we were
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  Speaker 1: into it. And then two I think I got texted
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  Speaker 1: you guys. Two scenes terrified Emmett and like literally gave
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  Speaker 1: him nightmares. One he has an eye patch and then
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  Speaker 1: yeah that they opened up his eye patch and he
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  Speaker 1: has there's nothing underneath it. Terrified. And then and then
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  Speaker 1: there's that like that like zombie. Oh I love that.
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  Speaker 1: That made me laugh so hard. But we talked about
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  Speaker 1: this in the The Pixar Tearless because Elio was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be gay, and then Disney changed it so he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't gay. But anyways, and then Zutopia two is also nominated.
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  Speaker 1: I never saw it. It made like a billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen two really liked one. Two is not
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  Speaker 1: on Disney Plus yet right same anything came up Demon
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  Speaker 1: Hunters what a smash.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it with Emmett. He had a great time.
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  Speaker 1: It's Henry's favorite song is Golden, which is a song
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  Speaker 1: for the movie. It's I don't know anything about it,
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  Speaker 1: but for how like I didn't even really know it existed.
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  Speaker 1: And then for Halloween, I went like Milton my town
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  Speaker 1: has like a big Halloween gathering in the town square
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  Speaker 1: and literally every girl, like there was five hundred girls
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  Speaker 1: that were.
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  Speaker 2: K pop even under It's it's so strange, how like
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  Speaker 2: it was a Sony made it and they just like
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  Speaker 2: gave it to Netflix to be like, yeah, do what
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  Speaker 2: you want, and then it was this massive Netflix hit
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  Speaker 2: and they put it in theaters after and it was
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  Speaker 2: a hit again. It's so crazy that, like, it's so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Paramount is so stupid. They sold the rice to Yellowstone
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  Speaker 1: to like another streaming service. I think it's reverted now.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, continue.
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  Speaker 2: But it was fun. I like it. It was good.
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  Speaker 1: A bunch of the animated shorts are just available on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen him real. I mean. Butterfly is about this
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  Speaker 1: like a Jewish French swimmer during Nazi times. It's very short,
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  Speaker 1: you can watch it in like ten minutes. Forever Green
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  Speaker 1: is about a bear and a tree who are friends.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. Retirement Plan is like a voiceover from
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  Speaker 1: a guy of like all the things he plans to
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  Speaker 1: do once he retires, and like it's animated to show
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  Speaker 1: that nothing else there. Documentary, there's a couple of ones
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  Speaker 1: you've already talked about. The Perfect Neighbor that's nominated for
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  Speaker 1: Best Documentary. I think that one should win. Tough Watch
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  Speaker 1: but very well done. Yes, I also watched The Alabama Solution,
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  Speaker 1: which is about the Alabama prison system. Watch that I've
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  Speaker 1: wanted to watch it, but yeah, no I have not.
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  Speaker 1: Also a tough Watch. It's like pretty terrifying. Yes, Albata
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  Speaker 1: prison system great. Yeah, yeah, that's the thesis perfect. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of like civil rights violation stuff going on, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like interviews with the prisoners who are
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  Speaker 1: like trying to you know, because like no one wants
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  Speaker 1: to like hear prisoners complain like, well you did bad stuff,
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  Speaker 1: like whatever happens to you, you deserve, which is not
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  Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to be. A couple of documentary shorts,
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  Speaker 1: All the Empty Rooms, which is on Netflix, Very sad.
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  Speaker 1: It's about kids who have died in school shootings, and
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  Speaker 1: like a reporter goes and like talks to the families,
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  Speaker 1: and a photographer goes and takes pictures of their rooms
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  Speaker 1: because almost in every case their parents have preserved their rooms.
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm not gonna ever see that because I don't,
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  Speaker 1: like there's nothing that I need to learn or be
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  Speaker 1: convinced on about school shootings or gun violence. Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: already on board with everything the director intents, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just gonna make me very sad. Another one that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty sad, Armed with only a Camera, The Life
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  Speaker 1: and Death of Brent Renauld. It's on HBO. It's about
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  Speaker 1: like a videographer and photographer, like a wartime correspondent person,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a documentary by his brother. This guy was
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  Speaker 1: killed during wartime. It's just kind of a little documentary
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  Speaker 1: about his life. And then The Devil is Busy, which
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  Speaker 1: is about an abortion clinic in Atlanta and kind of
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  Speaker 1: just like a day in the life of what it's
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  Speaker 1: like to run and be at an abortion clinic. Also
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  Speaker 1: super fun. Yeah, just starting not to get like stuck
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  Speaker 1: on this, but the fact that Alex Jones like convinced
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  Speaker 1: people to harass that, Like, imagine your children, your child
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  Speaker 1: was murdered in school shooting, and then people are literally
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  Speaker 1: showing up your house and being like your child never existed.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, like I would just stab them to death. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand. I can't comprehend this.
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  Speaker 2: To do that, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: That's nothing too Yeah, yeah, I mean there's psychos out there,
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  Speaker 1: but there's just nothing worse than you're There's nothing worse
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  Speaker 1: than your child was murdered. But then on top of that,
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  Speaker 1: you have to move because you're being harassed. Now I
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  Speaker 1: can't my brain can't comprehend that. What's the status of
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  Speaker 1: Alex Jones. I know he got like two like one
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars like verdicts against him, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he's saying he's saying he's bankrupt, but he's not,
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  Speaker 1: and he like does he have a podcast, Like, what's
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  Speaker 1: he doing? Yea, he still has a show in a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know what the status of the payout is,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, any yeah, they all deserve they should all
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  Speaker 1: be killed like that. Honestly, that's just the worst thing
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  Speaker 1: I can possibly imagine. But anyways, My last one is
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  Speaker 1: on a lighter note. For Best Live Action Short, I
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  Speaker 1: saw The Singers on Netflix. It is based on a
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  Speaker 1: short story. It's a good quick watch. Basically, it's like
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of guys at a dive bar and one
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  Speaker 1: of the patrons is like trying to get free drinks,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have any money, and the bartender says, like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: whoever is the best singer in this bar is gonna
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  Speaker 1: get a hundred bucks and some free drinks, and everyone
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  Speaker 1: in the bar like breaks into song. Is quite charming
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  Speaker 1: and I enjoyed it. Sounds stupid, Yeah, it's pretty dumb, Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: you got any.
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  Speaker 2: I think other ones like just touch on some of
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  Speaker 2: the Best Picture nominees, like other categories.
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  Speaker 1: I think that one thing I didn't see it, but
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  Speaker 1: we should mention rose Byrne if I should have legs.
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  Speaker 1: If I had legs, i'd kick you right Yep, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's like, I did not watch it. It's not nominated
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  Speaker 1: for this picture, but it was very hyped and talked
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  Speaker 1: about her performance. And I love Roseburn.
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  Speaker 2: She's great, man, she's excellent. Another great, exact rocky performance
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  Speaker 2: to in that movie. I thought he should have got
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  Speaker 2: an Oscar nomination just for being him this year for
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  Speaker 2: the two movies he was in. He also was in
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  Speaker 2: Oh My God, Highest the Lost of the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One I did, the one I meant to see it
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  Speaker 2: and didn't was the Ethan Hawk movie Blue Moon. That
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  Speaker 2: was the Richard Linkletter doubleheader this year.
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  Speaker 1: And then the the we've talked about with Andy Juno,
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  Speaker 1: when a documentary is so popular that they make a
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  Speaker 1: movie version of it, like Welcome to Marwin and they
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  Speaker 1: made the Steve Crow movie. Yes, there's been a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of documentaries like that, the Dogtown and z Boys, but
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  Speaker 1: there was a very popular documentary about a Neil Diamond
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  Speaker 1: cover band. And then they made a movie this year
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  Speaker 1: with Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman and it's what's it.
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  Speaker 2: Called, uh Song Sung Blue?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And Kate Hudson's nominated for Best.
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  Speaker 2: Actress was a very surprise nomination.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there wasn't a lot of I thought in general
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  Speaker 2: this year, there wasn't a lot of like bizarro people
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  Speaker 2: like that. One seemed like to be the most out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I had never heard of it, and Shannon was
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  Speaker 1: being serious, she thought it was a Neil Diamond.
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  Speaker 2: Biopick because well, the image like on Peacock Hugh Jackman,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like he is.
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  Speaker 1: Is his character a Neil Diamond like impersonator and the
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  Speaker 1: color band.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and it's not saving Silvermane, which is the most
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  Speaker 2: disappointing part of the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Also, just shout out to Weapons. Oh Weapons, Yeah, nominated,
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  Speaker 2: that's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: What do I get nominated for?
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  Speaker 2: That's supporting actress for what's her name? Ta? What's her name? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: My god? The Blood Chick actress in a supporting role
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  Speaker 2: Amy madd against Gladys.
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  Speaker 1: No, Gladys got nominated Amy and madd again.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. There was an article I read about her
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  Speaker 2: and Wagner Mora, who are He's nominated this year for
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  Speaker 2: Best Actor And there was an article about the two
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  Speaker 2: of them becoming friends on these Oscar Press tours because
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: they both smoke and have to go outside and smoke
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: and that'n til they became friends.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Oh that brings me. That makes me think of something
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: we should just mention it. We're gonna shelve our recent
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: podcast interview with Timothy Buzsfield it. You know, we recorded
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: it before the accusations, and we just don't think it's appropriate.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, out of respect for the victims.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he did.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I'm lost to myself. I'm sorry.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: You can google it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really yeah, I mean because a lot of
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: them are just kind of ten bench tangentially involved with
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the Best Picture nominees. But Blue Moon is on Netflix,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: which I always very surprising. That Ethan hawk one. That's
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: also his fifth Oscar nomination, which is fascinating.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Really is he won?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: He has never won Training Day he was nominated for.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: He had nominated for writing a couple of times too,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: which is interesting.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, anything else, that's really what
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I had.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the restaur all is very related to
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the Best Picture nominees.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: So okay, all right, So we're gonna go into the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Best Picture nominees ranked voting. What did we decide? And
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to kick us off with the worst of
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the ten. Now in my opinion, Well, first of all,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: we were all over the place. We differed greatly like ours.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Our lists were all over the point for the most part.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And I didn't think any of the movies this year
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: were bad. There was no fablements for me.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, none of these were like poor.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I think you Eric may have had one that he hated,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: get it. No, there was nothing, nothing like last year.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: What was it the substance you really hate? That was
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that for me? Nothing was like that. This year just
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: didn't get it. I agree with right, he didn't get
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: a little nick either. So the dead last this year
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: is F one, and I'm gonna go first. I was
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: watching F one. I genuinely didn't know this about who
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: produced it, directed it, wrote it, And I'm watching it
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is Talk On Maverick. Everything about
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: it is Top On Maverick. It's the plot is exactly
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: the same, the characters are the same. There's a Tom
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Cruise character, there's like the and then even like the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: set pieces were the same. Because Top Guy Maverick was
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: really weird. It was very small, there's like not a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: lot of people in it, and it was really everything
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: was like sleek and new and cool looking. But they
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: were like in the classroom learning about how to pilot,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and then they were out there flying the jets and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: that was kind of it. There's just like that one
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: scene at a bar, and F one just felt that way.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: They had this really sleek, cool looking conference room in
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: their facility and they're either in the facility in the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: conference room or they're driving cars, and that was kind
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: of it. But it was beat for beat. I was like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: this is talk on Maverick And then I looked up
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to see you made it, and I swear I didn't
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: know this. I looked it up because I thought it
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: was Talk on Maverick and it was the director, the writer,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and the producer of Talk on Maverick. Yeah, And I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: was like, they just did it again.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: However, worked again.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: However, F one I thought was great. It was it
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: was just because here's the thing, like F one should
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: not have been nominated for Best Picture, and I don't
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: get why it was. But I was talking about in
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park Rebirth, Jurassic World Rebirth Pod, like we
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: can make blockbuster movies that are good. It's very possible
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and it's better when a blockbuster movie is good. F
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: One is a great example of a blockbuster movie that
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: didn't need to be good, that actually was really good
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and entertaining, and Brad Pitt was awesome. So like, I
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know why it was nominated, but I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: really like F One.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: It didn't bother me at all. It was perfectly fine movie.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I had no issue with it at all.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, I mean I I like blockbusters. I mean
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I agree. I don't see why it was nominated for this,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Like I could see why it was nominated for whatever
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: sound it's gonna win best Sound, you know. I thought
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: it looked good. I thought it. I didn't like it
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: as much as Top Gon Maverick. I maybe didn't like
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: as much as four versus Ferrari, which I didn't like
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: love And I've done a lot of racing movies recently. Well,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's formula. Did you watch isn't there a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Netflix show? This was an F One made this movie
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: to like as part of their global branding.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Lewis of this movie. He's the biggest racer in that
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen the show. I'm not like into cars.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I don't really know how it was a huge success. Yes,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it's F one is very popular right now. I mean
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I could see why it made money. I'm glad it
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: did well. I thought it was fine, yeah, like totally fine,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: like maybe more than passable. Brad Pitt is a good
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: movie star. The other lead was good. The racing scenes
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: were like entertaining enough, but I just felt like it
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: was so pained by numbers, and so it was very
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: pain by the numbers.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I liked them. Did you guys like Rush with Chris
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Hemsworth and Daniel Berule.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I know I can recognize the like the thumbnail on
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the streaming it's felt the guy who was burned, right,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Nicky Lauda. And they talk about Nicky Lauda because Brad
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Pitt's character is a washed up F one racer and
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: he used to race.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: With like Nikki Lauda.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they talk about that. We were talking about
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: me and Ryan loved how all the sponsors were cigarettes.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Because back then that was the thing it was.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they have like a flashback scene where Brad
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Pitt is driving a Camel Cigarettes car and he's racing.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: It's a Marlborough car.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Because it was Nicky Lauda's Marlboro because he was all
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: like the red and white collars.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: But Russia is really good and I like that. I mean,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I don't really care about F one to be honest,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Like I got the race itself, I just not my interest.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I don't care about it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I thought Rush was a very good movie. Actually thought
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Russi was really good.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this this F one the movie. I believe it
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: was called F one colon the movie, by the way,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: which is just funny to me. Yeah, it's two and
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a half hours, like it was too it was too long. Yeah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it was too long. But yeah, so it is available
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: on Apple.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did hear it was a much better movie
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: in theaters. That's what I heard. I did not see
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: in theaters, but I heard.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I can imagine that. It seems like a theater movie.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: But I really like Brad Pitt's character. But again, it's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: very paid by numbers. What the what a Hollywood studio
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that knows what it's doing would do to make a
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: likable F one movie.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: They did a great job doing it. Yeah, yeah, it
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: was it's fine. I agree, it's just fine.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I had this. I don't want to tell you my
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: order yet, but I had this higher than both of you,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: so you, uh, Ryan had it ten and Eric had it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Nine because it was just fine. Okay, not these moories
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: were bad, but this was fine.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, and yeah, that's anymore on F one, Nah, do
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you want to tell that? They say the Vegas odds
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: of it winning. Oh yes, I think it's like less
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: than one percent. Think, oh yeah, like a billion one
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: incredible a billion not Vegas odds. What is it called?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hold on, let me scroll to this Polymarket odds.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: It is less than one percent, virtually no chance for
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Best Picture. Yeah, there's no chance. I don't know. This
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: must have just been Apple like doing something to get
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: nominated behind the scenes.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's so strange to me because it
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: feels like a lot of like you feel like the
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Academy thing is all, but like the Theatrical experience one
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and you know though that wasn't theaters. I feel like
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: because they're so famous for like dogging Netflix and stuff,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: and like, I know Netflix has other meanings, but like,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised they would want to give it to Apple, who, like,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: like I was talking to Andy earlier, like Apple who
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: could buy any of these studios twice over. They have
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that much money, and it's like there you post no
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: effect to them. Then again, actually already won best Preasure
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: with Coda.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Never mind, Yeah, I know Coda. That was another I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: don't remember what the rest of that year was. That
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: was Sound of Metal Coda. Yes, that's right, But I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: just I didn't know why Coda won. I was like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Cooda was good, but I don't think it should have won.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And I think the you know, they people in the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: academy still like things that duell on theaters. This is
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the highest box office of all the nominees, higher than Centers.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: They were trying to they were trying to make it
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: like they add more blockbustern movies every year because people
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: stopped watching the Oscar. Yeah, and more people will watch
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the Oscars. And I think they like that those movies
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: are made and pay their paychecks. I mean, I think, yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I think that everything now is over the recent history,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the last ten years or so, just the hatred of
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: elites and how America's has been changing, and like viewing
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: elites differently. And I think that Oscar the Oscars were
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: viewed as very like pretentious and closed off and not
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: for us and also liberal, so but also not at
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the same time, like Holly was really liberal, but Hollywood's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: also racist at the same time, kind of like Boston, but.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Also like I mean, look at the past decade of
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Best Picture winners, because it's kind of like it's pretty interesting.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like surprising how a lot of them
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, yeah, these were really good. Actually like
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: these kind of state.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think Coda was. But and because Dark Knight
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't nominated for Best Picture, everybody was pissed off and
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that's what caused F One and Black Panther and other
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: movies you get nominated for this picture. Yeah, so should.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: We move on. I'm really surprised Avatar did not get
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: this spot. I'm very surprised by that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: It was not beloved though, like critics didn't like it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Krickston, I didn't think two was too beloved either, to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: be honest with you, I just think it was like.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: If you look at the Rotten Tomato scores or Eric
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't Metacritic scores for two, it's it's significantly higher than three.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I do just assume because like they kept going with
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: this and there's so much James Cameron prestige of it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It's like, I was just very surprised. I don't love Eric.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: You can fact check me on the metacritics scores, but yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I thought it was Avatar Fire and ash a Metacritic
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: got a sixty which means general generally favorable. And what
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: is it called wave of water or something? Yeah, Avatar
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: water wow, sixty seven sixty seven okay, and the first
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: one was eighty three, eighty three. Yep, all right, moving on,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: moving on. Okay, As I mentioned for f one, Ryan
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: had a ten, Eric had at nine. This next movie,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Ryan had it nine, Eric had ten. So I'm gonna
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: have Eric introduce this one. It is the Netflix film
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: available on Netflix, Frankenstein. That's right, Frankenstein on Netflix, directed
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: by Garabll Guillermo del Toro, starring Oscar Isaac as Doctor
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Victor Frankenstein and Jacob Elordi as Frankenstein's monster, although he's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: credited as the creature here yep, and yeah, you know
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's Gerbo del Toro doing his thing and telling
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the story of basically how Frankenstein's monster comes to be
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and kind of what happens to him, and a take
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: on it My overall assessment was that, like, this seemed
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: like the kind of thing that pops up on Netflix
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: like every week and maybe get some eyewls on it,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: but it's not something I'm going to think much about
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: after this award season. You know, I watched it. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: thought it was fine. I thought it was very long,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: but they didn't seem to be like an extra, like
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a special take on any of it that really stuck
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: with me, Like I didn't. I didn't think that Jacob
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Already's you know, version was anything too different. I mean,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I thought it looked slick, like, it looked fine. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: didn't think Oscar Isaac's like take on Doctor Frankenstein was
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: anything special. I liked Oscar Isaac quite a bit generally,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: but I just kind of thought the whole thing was
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: sort of a shrug and like a like a minor
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: film from Gamal del Toro. I know everyone loves him,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: but it didn't make much of an impression on me. Ryan,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: what do you think?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I was in the very similar vote. I loved Al Toro.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He's like an appointment television guy. I was like, Okay,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: this was good, Like I, I don't know if it's
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: a thing where It's like I thought the Lord, they
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: very much split it in half. The beginning is Victor
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: von Frankenstein's story, and then the Creature's story is the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: second part. The older part was just way more interesting.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It was just I'm like, why wasn't this the whole movie?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: But I love del Toro. I love his stuff. I'll
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: always see it. But I was like, this was like
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: kind of like middle range for him of things he's done,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, and I thought it was just fine.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I well, a couple of things. One thing I
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: noticed is the theme of this entire year is parents
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and children. So if you look at the nominees, one
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: battle after another, Train Dreams, Pogonia, Hamnet, Frankenstein, the Secret Agent,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and Sentimental Value are all about.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Parents and children. Marty Supreme, Marty Supreme too.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah kind of right, is it? Oh right?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Because the yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. Okay, okay,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: So this reminded me of like having a baby when
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: he's trying to teach it to do things and it
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: just won't listen to him. I would say. So the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: reason this is higher than for me than you guys.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said. I really liked al
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Toro visually. I really like Night Moraley and you guys didn't. Yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I thought name ally was awesome and it just looks
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: so cool. I think that I give this credit to
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: more credit than F one, even though F one might
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: be like more enjoyable movie. It just took more. It's
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: just riskier to do, harder to do, looked better.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: With like sorry, no, no, you go ahead. I was just saying,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: like my thing with it, like what's I think? What's
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: quite frankly actually bothered, Like I have it above that
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: F one as well. What's bothering you about the movie
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: is that, like del Toro's one before in the past,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: which is great, they're all just like you're like, you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: you guys won't believe Like he like loves this book
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and he does all his homework. Where the fuck have
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: you been for thirty five years? Every fucking movie he does,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: he does fucking homewark. Like there's not one thing in
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: any of his movies that isn't like there's something to it,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like it just feels like
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: they're acting like he's like wow, he like he's really
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: good design. It's like yeah, no.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Ship I also want to mention Miagoth is just a
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: perpetual weirdo.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: It's kind of waste to hear. In my opinion, you
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: think so, I think so. The costumes, don't get me wrong,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: But like.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I also think that this is the best Frankenstein movie
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: ever because Frankenstein is such an iconic character. But it's actually,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: they don't have good Frankenstein movies. No, go ahead, Well,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: because there's the Boris karl Off, like the iconic Frankenstein
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that's so old it just doesn't work for me. And
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: then there was Mary Shelley's Frankenstein with Robert Jhanniro as Frankenstein.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Never saw it. You never saw it?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Never saw that one, Yeah, Robert, it's very It's when,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: like I think it was because they made Bram Stroker's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Dracula and that was soap popular. I think this came
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: after so they were like, oh, let's make the book
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: version of Frankenstein.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: So bizarre that movie, yes, so bizarre.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Right, who's's Frankenstein in it?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Is that Kenneth Brana? Yes, yeah, because he directed it too.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Right, You're right, So yeah, I thought a Lordie like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the depiction of Frankenstein's interesting there are some really cool
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: action sequences. I loved when Frankenstein got attacked or I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: was saying Frankenstein, but the creature, when the creature got
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: attacked by a pack of wolves and he just like
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: brutally killed him. He ripped one of their faces off,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and and yeah, Oscar Isaac. All the characters are just
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: very one dimensional. There's like no nuance to them.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: But were you gonna say something else? No? That was
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: really again, I feel like I'm shitting on like del
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Toro by saying it. I like, when this was getting
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: all this like ward buzz, I was kind of like, okay,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Like I was just kind of surprised. I don't know
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: why I.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Didn't want to watch it. It was one of the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: ones where I was like, this is almost three hours.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested in this, And I liked it more
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: than I thought I was.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I think the good thing, in a weird way is
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: maybe even though it is that long, like I said before,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: me personally, the Lord he half is the it is
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: the the second half and the end, and it is
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: way more interesting. So if it was reversed, it partly
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: be like, oh wow, this is just losing stand completely.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: It's brutally violent. I really liked the depicture of the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: depiction of the creature itself, like the monster, and when
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: he was like designed.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Like when he was like an all white thing, it
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: was just so strange to look at. I thought, this
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: creepiest thing is when doctor Frankenstein is showing to like
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the console of doctors, how he like reignited the human body,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: and the guy's like and it's just like it's just
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: so it's just like awful to look at, and they're
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: like they're like, this is an abomination, Like you shouldn't
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you hotwired a human brain?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Gimel del Toro now his violence I always I talked
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: about it recently. There's now like a new level of
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: violence that movies have never gotten to before because CGI
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: is so good. Because in the eighties and nineties, even
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: with recent CGI, you can't accurately depict someone's face being
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: crushed in by a blunt object and have it look real,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: so you as the viewer aren't as disturbed by it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: But del Toro now does do that, and it's like
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: really disturbing. His violence, some of the violence in Nightmare Alley.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, that's.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You know, but anyways, so I think we should move
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: on the poly market. Odds in this one are also
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: less than one percent, but it is heavily favored to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: win Best Production Design, Best Makeup and Hairstyling, and Best
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Costume Design. Yeah, I'm sure that's a no brainer to me.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Oki Doki Ryan number Since this is ten nine eight,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: number eight on our list with a you had it
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the highest, it is sentimental value.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: So this is a story of a It's a story
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: of a family. The father of the family is a
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: film director and his daughter is a stage actor. She's
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: kind of the main ish character. Their mother has passed away.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: They're cleaning out their childhood home, and it's about how
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: the father decides to come back. He wants to make
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: a movie at the house. It's an autobiographical movie.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Because he's a famous or kind of a washed up
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: famous director.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, And it's kind of about like he sells
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of prestige, so he attracts like a knew
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: like an American star to being the movie. And it's
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: about how like the making of the movie is exposing
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: a lot about the family history and their history in
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: this house. Yeah, I have this set number six yeah,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I thought this was I watched this last night. I
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: thought this was very very good. I have not seen
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: anything by wilkiem Treer who's the director of this movie.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: He did a very popular movie a couple of years
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: ago called The Worst Person in the World, which stars
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the main daughter from this movie.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, and this is the Norwegian I believe, so. Yeah,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: and this movie is in Norwegian. Yeah, and it takes
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Bay to Norway. There's some English, but because well Elle
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Fanning is in it, and she plays an American actress,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: so all of her scenes are in English, but everything
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: else is pretty much.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Not exactly exactly. But they do a good job I
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: think of communicating the story very interesting and interesting way
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that I've kind of not seen that often. But I
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: just I thought this is just really well done and
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: really good. I feel like it had such huge reviews.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I was kind of like, all right, it is kind
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: of just going to be like I don't know, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: don't know what I was thinking it was gonna be.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: It was cool to see how like it unearthed the
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: family history. I almost felt a little bit like, are
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: think going for kind of like a role at ten
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and bombs thing where the dad is kind of this
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: rascal because of his some of his behavior.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I was kind of a rascal. All these stone scars
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: guard who I love, And yeah, he is kind of
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a rascal. I do like the rascal units of the day.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Also shout out to passing out and falling asleep outside.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: But we thought that was really latable and huge. Yeah,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that was a great scene. But really just liked the
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: subtlety of this every cliche dramatic moment. I think it
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: could have gone it didn't, And I was just really
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: surprised that they gave every character, not just their moment,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: kind of their arc for kind of a family story. Yeah.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I actually like this.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Eric Hugo, did we say it's this one I rented
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: on It's not. It's available on like every It's also
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a deal on Prime right now for five ninety nine.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I think I paid like maybe fifteen dollars for really Yeah,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: because I watched it a week or two ago. Okay, wow, Okay,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I thought this one was fine. I don't know if
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: it really connected with me. The reason I had this
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: long on my list, I was like, who would I say, like, oh,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: you should watch sentimental Value, Like would you recommend someone
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: to watch this over other things. And again like, am
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I gonna remember the name of this movie here from now?
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe not, I'll remember that it happened. It's a movie
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: about making movies, which I know Oscar voters, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: tend to reward. I'm curious about this one versus a
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: secret Agent in terms of best Foreign Film.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, Yeah, that's true.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I quite like that. The very end of the movie,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the last scene I liked, but I would have done
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: it a little bit different. We could talk off podcast
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: about I thought they were gonna go one way and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: then yes, they went a slightly different way that I
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: thought sort of broke what I thought that they were
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be going for.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I also get the impression to I was talking about
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: with Andy today because again I've not seen this guy
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to other movies. The Worst Person in the World, the
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: movie he made before, the movie that was very popular
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: before this people loved. And that's why I think why
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: we're not around sieve if the main actress in this
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: movie got like a lot of parts and stuff.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: After she played the murder woman who's the plot of
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: presumed Dennison with Jake Jongs Oh really, yeah? She j
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Jillen Hall is like having an affair of this woman
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: and she's murdered and she's the woman really okay, Yeah,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: she's really good.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: She's she was in a different Man, the one with
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Passion Stan. She was very good than that, I think
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: because that movie was kind of like it's success, like
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: came out after the Oscars and people thought like, oh,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: they missed this, like this is something they missed. So
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: people think they're kind of over rewarding this movie because
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: they missed that, which can happen that kind of Oscar
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: backdraft m m yeah.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I agree. I just thought I had this
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a at nine, okay, and I thought it was very good.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: If I had like randomly seen this movie out of nowhere,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I would have been like, that was really solid. Am
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I gonna remember it years from now? Do I think
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: you should be nominated for Best Picture?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Or was I blown away? No?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty forgettable, like didn't stay with
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: me in the days and weeks following watching it. And
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I thought it was so funny because so Stelle Uh
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: did I wait, it's still ye Stelle Scars. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: but it's selling Scars cards in this movie. And then
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: like right after I saw it, his son Alexander hosted
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Saturday Live and they did a skit that Stellen was
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: in Nice and it was just making fun of Scandinavian film.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: So the the plot of the skit is like how
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Scandinavian film is just about how fucked up and awful
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: your family is, and and they they say like, you know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: like oh, mother died of suicide in the barn, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: then the director goes cut and then they're like laughing
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and joking in between takes. That was sort of the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: SNL skit. But I thought that was funny because I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, because I just watched that a Metal
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Value and it's just about how it's like, it's the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: movie's about pass on trauma. Yeah, like your parents are
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: fucked up, they passed out along to you. You're kind
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of fucked up. You try not to pass it along
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to your kid, but you inevitably end up doing it anyway,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: then your kids kind of fucked up. Yeah, but yeah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I thought the main actress was was awesome. What Ronando
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Renceieve is that her name?
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: That's a Believe project, But other that it's actually the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: father sister was great too.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, this sister was really good.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: She was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and but.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah that theme of like passing on your trauma from
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: generation to generation. And yeah, anyways, this also has a
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: less than one percent chance of winning according to Polymarket.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And then you know, we'll get into it later. But
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: this has a sixty eight percent chance of winning Best
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Foreign Film. Oh okay, my Best International Film, and Agent
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: hasn't twenty six percent, So pretty different. Okay. I think
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's what we were talking about that when there's only
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: one in years past, when there's only one foreign film
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: nominated for regular Best Picture, how can it not win
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Best Foreign Film? That logically does not make sense.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: You know. It's so bizarre to me, though, is like
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: when it wins both. I think it's so like that
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: happened with Parasite. Parasite won International Movie and Best Picture.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Very strange, Well, how could it not? I just think
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: they would, like, would they give it to both?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You already right, like the voters want to split the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: vote when they're voting, they should win everything. Yeah, you
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's very strange, but logically that
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: would make sense. Okay, So the next movie I'll introduce
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Very Happy. So the next movie I had sentimental value
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: as nine. I can't remember if I said this. The
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: next movie is Marty Supreme at number what is that?
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Ten?
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Nine eighty seven? Ryan had it a three, Eric had
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: his six, Tim had it a ten. This is dead
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: last for me. Fuck Marty Supreme. I think that Chalameag
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: was really good. I don't think that we should just
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: hand him the oscar like everybody started to say. I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: thought he was very good. But the more that I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: separated myself from this movie, like I saw in the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: theater and I was like, I liked this, and the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: more it's stuck with me for weeks, I hate it
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: more every day. Andy Juno told me that it's not
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: stunt casting, and I was like, are you in fucking crack?
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: That'll entire And there's another movie, Bogonia that because we
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: were talking about stunt casting can be when you take
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: like a comedian or a magician or somebody and you
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: put them in a role, or when you take real
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: life people, which the Safti brothers love to do, because
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you can find these real life people that are so
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: coinctessentially New York, you could never like Daniel day Lewis,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: couldn't pull them off. Bogonia is a great example of
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: doing that the right way. But there's you just know
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: watching the movie, there's an autistic character in Bagonia, and
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you know this guy in real life has autism. No
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: one is just good of an actor, no one on earth.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: And I looked it up and he is autistic, and
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that's why he was given the role. So the stunt
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: casting I hated. I kind of always hated the Safti
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Brothers movies and think they're overrated. Like I thought Uncut
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: JEMs was overrated because it's just like stress chaos, stress chaos,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: So it makes you feel like your heart's beating out
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: of your chest and you're just super stressed out the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: whole time. And because you feel that emotion at the
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: end of the movie, you're like, oh, wow, that was
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: good because it made me feel stressed out. And it's like, no,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I just don't think their movies are that good. And
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: also I know this shouldn't bias me because there's nothing
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: to do with the movie. But after we talked about
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Martin Supreme, finding out the stories on the internet about
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: why the Saftie Brothers broke up and like the scandal
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: that the director of Marty Supreme as going through right now.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: It just like made me justified in my head, like,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: fuck this movie story, Yeah, Ryan, you tell the story.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: The it's he There was an actress. I actually don't
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: know the full details.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Well, so in Marty Supreme. During the making of Marty Supreme,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: it was came out that he had hired this like
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: actual criminal to be in the movie, and he threatened
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Tim Tshalome, like he like got in his face and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: said like, you don't want to fuck with me, and
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't threaten the
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: star of the movie. But that was just like a
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: side story. But I guess they broke up because what
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: are the the Saffie brothers names again, It's Benny and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Benny and Josh Benny and Josh. So Benny's one the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: dress directed smashing Machine rank. So Benny broke up with
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Josh from my understanding what I read online, because Josh
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: insisted on using these like real life people, but it
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: became very problematic on set and there was an incident
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: with an underage girl. I want to get the fact straight,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna pause really quick. Okay, sorry, I pause,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: And I just wanted to read this so insiders say
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the conflict This is from an article on MSN and
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: they have been taken from Variety or page six, Page six,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I think, but a conflict began on the set of
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Good Time in twenty seventeen. A seventeen year old girl
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: was cast to play a prostitute in a scene that
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: included nudity and simulated sex with actor Buddy Duress, a
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: non actor in the film who was recently released from prison.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: He has a long criminal record, including drugs and weapons.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: While Josh watched the monitor and Benny held the boom,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: mic Dress allegedly pulled his pants down and asked the
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: underage girl if he could stick it in As the
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: chem kept rolling, Benny found out the girl was underage.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: After the fallout, a former producing partner of their Sebastian
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: bart McClard, who used to be married to Emily Radajowski,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: had other controversies on set and blamed Josh for hiring
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a minor, and he said the final split. The split
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: became final twenty twenty three after Baron maclard's divorce from
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Emily Radajowski brought the old Good Time incident into the spotlight.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Benny ended his partnership with Josh and moved on to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: other projects. Yeah, and then an actor the set of
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Marty Supreme said, I was just in jail for thirty years.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: You really don't want to fuck with me. You don't
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: want to see any angry said this to Timothy Shallow
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the onset and then some critics are questioning whether these
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: risky methods that Josh frequently uses should be celebrated somebody.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Anne Henry, co founder of a child actor Avessey Group,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: said it's troubling that a few years later Josh Saftie
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: is being honored as a director. Maybe it's my perspective
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: as a child advocate, but I don't consider a director
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: who hires non union kid off Instagram skirt safety protections
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: for minors, has a girl do a surprise nude scene
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: to get Oscar to get nominated for an Oscar, And
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: allegedly Benny was like, we need to stop casting people
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: like this and doing this, and Josh was the one
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: that was more saying like, no, this is extremely important
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: from what I'm trying to do. So anyways, fuck Josh Saftee,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Fuck Marty Supreme. I thought it was overrated. Yeah, Eric,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts. I mean, I had it what
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: number six? I think so, yes, Yeah, I think I've
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: seen Good Times and Uncut Gems, And if I hadn't
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: seen either of those, or if those didn't exist, I
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: might have liked Marty Supreme more. But just the fact
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that all three of those movies are just like a
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: heart attack the entire time, just like crisis after crisis
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: after crisis. I'm kind of like ready for him to
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: do something else. And the fact this is like the third,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: you know, movie in a row that I've seen of
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: his that where that happens. I agree him a little
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: bit over it. I mean that being said, I thought
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: it had some good like set pieces. I thought it
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: made like ping pong exciting to watch. I thought Timothy
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Shalomy was very good, like I think he probably will
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: win the Oscar, and maybe he should win the Oscar.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So I didn't I didn't hate it, but I think,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: uh uh, you know, it was like middle of the
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: pack for me too, lower middle of the pack. Uh Yeah.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I was debating with Shannon o'larry as well. She said
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: she was saying some of this quote unquote stunt casting
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: was great, like Fran Dresher and Gwyneth Paltrow and I
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: totally disagree with that, and I wrote back, mister wonderful
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: is the main character. The elderly psychopathic weirdo director of
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Bad Lieutenant plays the dog owner. A famous magician plays
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: the guy who stole the dog. A retired NBA player
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: plays the pool hall owner. A rapper plays his friend,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: a famous author plays his uncle. The YouTube personality was
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: never Active four plays his other friend. The CEO of
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: a grocery store chain plays his friend's father. Like there
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: is just example after example after example. But Ryan, you
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: love this movie.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Oh this is great. I love the energy of it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I said that when we talked about an hour year
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: end pod. I do think it's like the length of
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: it hurts it in my opinion.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: How long is it?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Three hours? Almost three hours? It's like two forty around there.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: But you and I have both been grumpy old men
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: about the long the long time runs for movies.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Now no, but it's been coming down something.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: You and I had the opposite feeling of, like, you know,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I don't mind a three hour movie. I yeah, I
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: love the energy of this. I the ending ping pong
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: match where he's like, I just need I just need
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: to beat you. I just need to do that. I
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: don't care if this is an award, if I sneak
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: on this. I just love that moment. Yeah, I love
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: the energy of it. So I this just works for me. Yeah,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I love their stuff.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: So I really like Marty is a character and how
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: he's a piece of it in an entertaining, charming way.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: But you know what the funny thing is, Like we
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: said the prior, repeating myself a lot of what we
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: did before. But like I do like though that even
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: when he charms his weight in and out of something,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: that comes back to butten in the ass, like there's no.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Like, yes, he always yeah, the bill always comes at
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: the end of the meal and.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Not like in a very like it's almost like, oh, hey,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: you forgot he did this thirty minutes ago. Maybe that's
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: too long, but like it's I always liked that, Like
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: even though because people think like if he was too slick,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: like it wouldn't be as interesting if he was way
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: too Ferrispueler, if he was, like, I liked it, Like,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: you can't just be a fucking blomb in everybody's life
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: and expect that you ever want to pick up the
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: pieces after the fact and not come back for you
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: for them. I just like liked that part of it,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: and how that, to me is the hardest thing to
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: do because like I could see how when you watched
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: like uncut Gems, like people could find Howard annoying because
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: of like his tone of voice, his personality, his relentlessness,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: and because his wife is like I fucking hate She's
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: like I hate you, like I think, actually you're annoying
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: and gross, Like should I hate you as a purpose?
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Is the ick? And it's just like it's so interesting
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: how like you probably could Marty is just could be
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: so much worse in a way, and like it's just
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: interesting how And I guess it's the performance, how the
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: movie had that energy go through but again having it
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: a three in this group of movies, but I just
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: feel again it was a little too long with it.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And in two thousand and seven the Assassination of Jesse
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: James by the cowend Robert Ford, that was two hours
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and forty minutes, and it was like a news story
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: about how long this movie was and how about how
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: boring it was. Yeah, and I defended it at the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: time because I thought it was a good movie. The
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: problem I have now is every movie's two hours.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: That's what it's like when it doesn't need to.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I don't need every movie like we need to get
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: on with our lives. It's that's every Marvel movie has
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to be two hours and forty minutes.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Or like also when like when you're when it's purposely
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: that like Jesse James Woods, when it starts that movie
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: and it ends that movie, it doesn't change the promise.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to say it the best. That's
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: a bad way to put it. But like that movie's
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: tone and how it moves is from beginning to end
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: the same. Even the stakes in the movie change. It
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't all of a sudden have like high cut scenes
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: in the middle then go back to it like it's
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: very much like it's on its own pace. So I
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: think it's very similar when like it's the same strand.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, any other thoughts or should we move on?
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Great score two.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I don't really shout out.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: To the guy from a Revere. Uh Daniel Patten, Yeah
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: he's one O tricks point never yeah, shout out to him.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: He didn't get nominated for Best Score.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Huge.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I'm trying my best not to because we're the scornography
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: crimes this year, I almost punched a hole through the
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: ceiling of my house.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Did One Battle get nominated for Best Score?
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: It did? Okay, we'll get to it. We'll get to it.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I have thoughts on the score of One Battle, and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I don't have thoughts on scores anyways.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: That's what worries me about the world more than anything.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: As people don't thoughts on scores, I think, do we
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: do we give? Oh? Marty is only in theater? Still right?
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: It's not available? It's available to rent it.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have bought it. It just became available
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: on streaming. Took pay for Yeah, got you? Okay, but
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: you couldn't You've even paid for it before I saw
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: him in the theater. It was the only one this
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: year that I saw in the theater. But Eric, what's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the Vegas odds? Three percent to win? Okay?
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I'm actually like.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: What about Safty for director? Can you look that up?
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I am? I was kind of like, I was surprised
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: he got nominated because it seemed like other movie directors
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: would be more prominently fixed, Like I actually thought, well,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: like wilkeem Trier for for sentimental value in not in
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: refstructor and he didn't, which I was surprised that one
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: actually was the most surprised by Lars. I'm sure he's
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: allowed to come back into public.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Anymore less than one percent for Josh Safty for Best Director.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Timothy Shall May seventy three to win Best Actor. Yeah,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. Everybody's like, oh, give it to him,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: and then everything else is pretty low for their and
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: they have a bunch of nominations for I truly don't
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: get the Kylie Jenner thing. Kylie Jenner is super hot,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: no denying that she's, but she's like a really really
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: hot porn star. To me, it would be like dating
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: or really you are, Timothy, you are like the most
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: talented young actor who's respected truly, and he's in a
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: serious relationship with Kylie Jenner for years. I don't. I
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: do not get that at all. I wish none the best.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're those two crazy kids. Can figure it out.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: But maybe he's a really great like step dad too.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, weird weird with Travis Scott.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, like you dated Travis Scott and Timothy Salamy anyway,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna take this to a part two because
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: we're already at an hour. But we we covered some ground.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: We had a little we had a lot of butt,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: we had a lot of bantrup top we did and
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: we still did four movies.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm proud of us as well. We're getting we're
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: getting professionally seven years in Yeah, thanks for listening.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks everyone, and we'll catch you on the Oscar flip.