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54 | Step Into My Office · You Didn't Ask For This

• 0:00
  Eric: Matt, are you familiar with a little show went by the name of Government Issue Joseph?
• 0:05
  Eric: Excuse me?
• 0:06
  Eric: The real American hero.
• 0:08
  Matt: Government issued Joseph?
• 0:11
  Matt: G.I.
• 0:12
  Matt: Joe.
• 0:14
  Matt: Oh, G.I.
• 0:15
  Matt: Joe.
• 0:16
  Matt: Yeah.
• 0:17
  Matt: Just be normal.
• 0:19
  Matt: Is that what GI stands for?
• 0:21
  Matt: Government issue.
• 0:21
  Matt: Yes, government issue.
• 0:23
  Matt: Wow.
• 0:23
  Matt: Wow.
• 0:24
  Matt: Well, I got a few GIs then.
• 0:26
  Eric: Yeah, it was a joke among the GIs in World War II.
• 0:29
  Matt: Oh, so it's not what it stands for.
• 0:30
  Eric: No, no, it is.
• 0:31
  Eric: It is.
• 0:31
  Eric: It was a joke.
• 0:32
  Eric: That's why they call them GIs in like World War II because they're like government issue human beings.
• 0:36
  Matt: Because they felt like Oh, they're government issue human beings.
• 0:40
  Matt: This is getting more and more problematic as we go.
• 0:42
  Matt: Yeah.
• 0:42
  Matt: Yes, I am familiar with the G and the I and the Joe.
• 0:45
  Eric: Well, I'm happy to report that uh for those of you who don't know, I I am a lifelong dungeon master uh for Dungeons and or Dragons, but I got reached out to by a friend who asked me to join their game as a player, and we're gonna be playing the G.I.
• 1:03
  Eric: Joe role-playing game.
• 1:06
  Eric: Oh, wow.
• 1:07
  Eric: I am excited.
• 1:08
  Eric: That's fascinating to me.
• 1:10
  Eric: Yes.
• 1:10
  Eric: Uh, I'm going to be, and it's really cool.
• 1:12
  Eric: You get to like build your own character and they have all the stuff in there for you to make like whatever the hell kind of over-the-top, crazy, like 1980s Saturday morning cartoon shit you want to do.
• 1:22
  Eric: Uh I'm I personally am going to be a ninja.
• 1:26
  Eric: Okay.
• 1:27
  Eric: Uh, I'm going to avenge my dead son, who was uh killed by Cobra.
• 1:32
  Eric: That's why I'm joining the G.I.
• 1:33
  Eric: Joe's.
• 1:34
  Eric: Obviously.
• 1:35
  Eric: Very dark and storied past.
• 1:36
  Eric: Uh, lots of character development there.
• 1:38
  Eric: Rich, fertile ground for, you know, storytelling.
• 1:42
  Eric: Did you play with G.I.
• 1:43
  Eric: Joe's as a kid?
• 1:45
  Matt: I mean, not like I mean, I might have had a G.I.
• 1:49
  Matt: Joe or a two.
• 1:51
  Matt: Now, I had plenty of action figures.
• 1:53
  Matt: I had a very, very extensive collection of Ninja Turtle action figures.
• 1:59
  Eric: Ah.
• 1:59
  Eric: Still have.
• 2:00
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:02
  Eric: Every kid had like a major when it came to full figures.
• 2:06
  Matt: I got so I already had a lot, and then at one yard sale, a friend up the street was sold or made to sell by their parents like a whole Ninja Turtle duffel bag full of Ninja Turtle um merchandise.
• 2:23
  Matt: Oh, please tell me you jumped on that.
• 2:25
  Eric: Okay, good.
• 2:25
  Eric: How much did it set you back?
• 2:27
  Matt: I can't possibly remember.
• 2:29
  Matt: I was a child, so I feel like it was like 25 to 50, like somewhere in that range.
• 2:34
  Matt: Honestly.
• 2:35
  Matt: But I did buy the whole thing.
• 2:36
  Matt: There's definitely collector's items in it.
• 2:38
  Matt: And a little while ago, my mom asked if she could um toss it, and I uh lost my mind.
• 2:45
  Matt: Yes, yes.
• 2:46
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 2:48
  Matt: No, they have not been released into the wild.
• 2:50
  Matt: Um but so anyway, the ant the that is a lot of words to say.
• 2:57
  Matt: Not really.
• 2:59
  Matt: Not really.
• 3:00
  unknown: All right.
• 3:00
  Matt: Like if you I can't tell you the like uh the roster, the the lore G.I.
• 3:05
  Matt: Joe.
• 3:05
  Matt: I can't tell you the lore, no.
• 3:07
  Eric: I am I'm in the same boat in that like I couldn't tell you like all the different named characters.
• 3:10
  Eric: Obviously, there's famous ones like Snake Eyes.
• 3:13
  Eric: He is the famous, like the most famous G.I.
• 3:15
  Eric: Joe.
• 3:15
  Eric: Yeah.
• 3:16
  Eric: The what were any of them ever actually named Joe?
• 3:20
  Eric: That's what always fucked with me.
• 3:22
  Eric: I'm not being like, I'm not being funny.
• 3:24
  Matt: I think there might have been one.
• 3:26
  Matt: What the or maybe that's just the carbon copy G.I.
• 3:30
  Matt: Joe action figure that pops to mind.
• 3:31
  Matt: So wasn't that Dennis Quaid in the movie?
• 3:34
  Matt: Wasn't he Joe?
• 3:35
  Matt: Oh, they did make a movie, didn't they?
• 3:38
  Matt: They made two, I think.
• 3:39
  Eric: Fuck.
• 3:40
  Matt: Three, I think, maybe.
• 3:41
  Eric: Um, but I I asked.
• 3:44
  Eric: Matt, if you were a G.I.
• 3:45
  Eric: Joe action figure, what would be like what would be your selling points?
• 3:49
  Eric: I'll I know, in fact, I'll I'll I'll broadly open this.
• 3:52
  Eric: If you were an action figure of any sort of kind of, like, what would your deal be?
• 3:58
  Matt: Oh shit.
• 3:59
  Eric: Like what would your what would your what would your kick-ass accessory be?
• 4:02
  Matt: So not like what G.I.
• 4:04
  Matt: Joe character would I be or whatever.
• 4:05
  Matt: Just like the what is the action figure version of of Man She look like?
• 4:09
  Eric: What's you what's your kung fu grip?
• 4:11
  Matt: Like what?
• 4:15
  Matt: Okay.
• 4:15
  Matt: Well, I feel like the podcasting is a I feel like there's a special podcasting edition of the two of us.
• 4:22
  Eric: Oh hell yes.
• 4:24
  Eric: Oh, there'd be so many different mats.
• 4:26
  Eric: God, you'd have so many different versions.
• 4:29
  Eric: Oh my god, you could assemble the council of mats.
• 4:32
  Eric: You can assemble the council of mats! You could have oh my god, you could have grumpy podcaster Matt.
• 4:38
  Eric: You could have grumpy actor Matt.
• 4:40
  Eric: You could have persona?
• 4:43
  Eric: Not grumpy.
• 4:44
  Matt: Yeah, it is.
• 4:45
  Matt: Shit.
• 4:47
  Matt: Wow, this got dark quick.
• 4:49
  Eric: Oh, but don't worry, the heart of gold is included with each and every now with more anxiety.
• 4:54
  Matt: Um the uh more opinions than ever before.
• 5:00
  Eric: Uh collect all 10 pages of the book of perceived slights.
• 5:07
  Matt: Well, as if it's only 10 pages.
• 5:09
  Matt: Uh so the yeah, it's growing every day, and I do have an outstanding note on my notes app that is called Perceive Slights Away from Book.
• 5:21
  Matt: That I can write them down and transfer them.
• 5:23
  Matt: That's not a bit, that's true.
• 5:27
  Matt: I believe that with every fiber of my being.
• 5:30
  Matt: Like so, I think there's that.
• 5:32
  Matt: Those are those are definitely aspects.
• 5:34
  Matt: I do think a coffee cup is uh an addition that comes with with the base mat.
• 5:42
  Eric: Or it'll like be cute with every different mat.
• 5:44
  Eric: There's a there's a different coffee cup.
• 5:46
  Matt: Yeah, I do have a lot of mugs.
• 5:48
  Eric: Anybody who knows me.
• 5:49
  Eric: Your mug collection is impressive.
• 5:51
  Matt: I collect collections, as I like to say.
• 5:54
  Matt: I have lots of things.
• 5:56
  Matt: Uh I think we've talked about the shot glasses, that's the big one.
• 5:59
  Matt: Um I have over 200.
• 6:01
  Matt: Um, the so but I mean, yeah, it's true.
• 6:05
  Eric: Yeah.
• 6:06
  Matt: So those are the so but you can't include the collections.
• 6:11
  Matt: Like that's a whole separate subgenre.
• 6:13
  Matt: Oh, yeah.
• 6:14
  Matt: Because we're talking about making a collectible.
• 6:16
  Matt: So the collectible can't have a collectible.
• 6:18
  Eric: Yeah.
• 6:19
  Eric: This is also welcome to our executive brainstorming session for our future merch.
• 6:23
  Matt: For future merch, yeah.
• 6:25
  Matt: I do like being able to assemble the different count the Council of Matt's Matt's.
• 6:29
  Matt: Yes.
• 6:30
  Matt: Um, that's a fun with Council of Matt's council room playset.
• 6:35
  Matt: Yeah, like they each have the there is a round table that each of them.
• 6:40
  Matt: I don't know if you know that the the the Avengers Schwarm a pop figures each come with like a set the section of the table they're sitting at so you can assemble the table.
• 6:52
  Matt: That's the shit I'd live for.
• 6:54
  Matt: That's Council of Matt's setup.
• 6:55
  Matt: It's gonna be this big round table.
• 6:58
  Matt: And I'm envisioning when I say round table, I'm envisioning the table from the war room in Doctor Strangelove.
• 7:05
  Matt: Yes, you know, I'm the big donut circle with the donut light over top, with the very aggressive lighting.
• 7:13
  Eric: Yes.
• 7:13
  Matt: Yes, yes, that's how I imagine it would be.
• 7:17
  Matt: Or it takes place in whatever the room is with the the various walking platforms in the duel of the fates in LC.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, hell yes.
• 7:30
  Matt: Not the final room, no, not the death chamber, no, the the weird room where the main part of the fight takes place, which is the best part of the Phantom Menace and the best part of the Phantom Menace video game.
• 7:42
  Matt: Absolutely this which has all these walkways for no discernible reason.
• 7:49
  Matt: We got walkways on walkways, fam.
• 7:51
  Matt: That's but so imagine just in that room, one walkway that comes to like a big circular platform.
• 7:59
  Matt: That's where the Council of Maths takes place.
• 8:01
  Matt: And again, for anyone who hasn't listened to the episode, the Council of Maths.
• 8:05
  Matt: For those of you not caught up on the lore.
• 8:07
  Matt: Uh, this is uh a discussion group that takes place in my brain.
• 8:12
  Matt: There you go.
• 8:13
  Matt: You're caught up.
• 8:14
  Matt: Um yeah, I guess that maybe answers your question.
• 8:17
  Matt: I think that's a baller concept.
• 8:19
  Matt: What is what does the action Eric have?
• 8:22
  Eric: Oh man.
• 8:23
  Eric: See, yeah, you're the collector's man.
• 8:25
  Eric: I'm for the kid who hates making choices.
• 8:28
  Eric: That was me.
• 8:29
  Eric: That was always my anxiety in the KB toys when I would like my mom was like, All right, son, I'm going to buy you an action figure and action figure.
• 8:38
  Eric: And I just look at all these different things Batman, uh, the Batman action figures.
• 8:45
  Eric: Oh, I had so backpacks full of them.
• 8:48
  Matt: Oh, I have a lot too.
• 8:50
  Matt: Not as many as the turtles, but a lot.
• 8:52
  Matt: I did have a uh I did have Wayne Manor.
• 8:54
  Eric: Oh, I had a Batcave.
• 8:56
  Eric: I had a Batcave.
• 8:58
  Matt: Well, it opened up and became the Batcave.
• 9:00
  Eric: Like buckled.
• 9:01
  Eric: That see, that's the shit I live for.
• 9:03
  Eric: I when it comes to action figures, I love hidden compartments in things.
• 9:07
  Eric: I like it when like the the uh they transform or they've got something hidden on them that you have to like press a button and something happens.
• 9:15
  Eric: Um, I'm also a huge fan.
• 9:17
  Eric: My favorite thing on earth, the greatest choking hazard of all time, any of like the little projectile guns that shoot the little grappling hook with the the string on it.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 9:27
  Eric: Classic.
• 9:28
  Eric: Classic.
• 9:29
  Eric: Um that's that's what I want mine to be.
• 9:31
  Eric: I want mine to be it's gonna be a deluxe box with every like accessory I ever wanted in an action figure.
• 9:39
  Eric: So I will have the grappling hook.
• 9:41
  Eric: Yep.
• 9:41
  Eric: Uh there will be like a symbol on my chest where if you hit it, my my limbs fly off, like uh crash test down.
• 9:47
  Eric: Oh if you look through the back of my head, you've got a little targeting system like Street Sharks.
• 9:55
  Eric: And I think 100% I need to change color if you pour water on me.
• 10:01
  Eric: Wow.
• 10:01
  Eric: Okay, you're very involved.
• 10:03
  Matt: You're gonna be a pricier dog.
• 10:06
  Eric: Oh, it's gonna be, yeah, the suit.
• 10:07
  Eric: This is like the this is a Christmas get.
• 10:09
  Matt: You don't this is a cr you don't just count.
• 10:12
  Eric: You are the turboman.
• 10:13
  Eric: I am, I want to be turbo man.
• 10:15
  Matt: This is this year's turboman is Eric Poach.
• 10:20
  Eric: Yes.
• 10:21
  Eric: And and the limited edition comes with a copy of a picture of my cat.
• 10:26
  Matt: Oh, but not the cat?
• 10:28
  Matt: No.
• 10:29
  Eric: You don't get Amelia Bedelia as a figure?
• 10:31
  Eric: Oh, they could have a little, oh my god, if I could get a little Amelia Bedelia action figure, Matt.
• 10:35
  Eric: That's what I'm talking about.
• 10:36
  Eric: Oh my god, yeah, that comes with every oh yeah, that's always a guarantee.
• 10:40
  Eric: But here's the mystery.
• 10:41
  Eric: Here's where it gets fun.
• 10:42
  Eric: Um in each one, it's like a little, it's like a little hidden, like a like a gacha pan, it's like a little, like, which Amelia did you get?
• 10:49
  Eric: Did you get standard Amelia?
• 10:50
  Eric: Did you get Amelia in her little sweater vest?
• 10:52
  Eric: Did you get Amelia in her triceratops costume?
• 10:55
  Matt: I assume all those are real and that's precious.
• 10:57
  Eric: Those have all happened.
• 10:58
  Matt: There's one there's one element that you forgot that I think in the world of Unesque lore, this needs to be included.
• 11:07
  Matt: And I feel as though this can be the like they only made three Erics that include this.
• 11:13
  Matt: Okay.
• 11:13
  Matt: So it's super rare.
• 11:14
  Matt: This is gonna be the bidding war on eBay.
• 11:18
  Matt: Okay?
• 11:18
  Matt: Okay, hit me with it.
• 11:20
  Matt: The three it's gonna be a game of find the Eric that has the Yerba Mate.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh shit! Yes!
• 11:29
  Matt: Yerba mate, you have to get it in there.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: God damn it.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: Find the tea!
• 11:46
  Matt: Hello there, and welcome to You Didn't Ask for This, the podcast answering life's least pressing questions.
• 11:54
  Matt: And guess what?
• 11:56
  Matt: My name's Matthew Shea.
• 11:57
  Matt: My name's Eric Poach.
• 11:59
  Matt: And Eric Poach, how are you today?
• 12:02
  unknown: Ah!
• 12:03
  Eric: Doing just lovely.
• 12:05
  Eric: Played a little played a little piano this morning.
• 12:07
  Eric: Oh.
• 12:08
  Eric: I've been learning the Dire Dire Docs theme from Super Mario 64.
• 12:13
  Matt: The dire dire docs theme.
• 12:15
  Matt: Fascinating, absolutely.
• 12:16
  Matt: It's the one that goes.
• 12:17
  Matt: I have no idea what that is.
• 12:18
  unknown: Doom doom doom doom doom doom doom ba.
• 12:25
  Eric: Yeah.
• 12:26
  Eric: Don't know that at all.
• 12:27
  Eric: But I'm gonna.
• 12:28
  Eric: You know it.
• 12:28
  Eric: If you played Super Mario 64, you'll know it the second you hear it.
• 12:32
  Matt: Oh, in that context, I think it's coming out.
• 12:36
  Eric: It's the classic underwater theme.
• 12:38
  Eric: Like the super gel one.
• 12:40
  Matt: Just say that then.
• 12:42
  Matt: Just say that.
• 12:43
  Eric: I'm sorry, I just thought we all knew it was called Dire Dire Docs from hit video game Super Mario 64.
• 12:50
  Eric: And guess what?
• 12:52
  Matt: We didn't.
• 12:53
  Matt: Isn't that a surprise?
• 12:55
  Matt: And also a surprise that this show has made it to 54 episodes.
• 13:00
  Matt: 54?
• 13:02
  Matt: Go and give him some more.
• 13:04
  Matt: Okay.
• 13:06
  Matt: That was pretty good.
• 13:07
  Matt: Thank you.
• 13:08
  Matt: Thank you.
• 13:08
  Matt: I don't know why I turned it to okay.
• 13:12
  Matt: Anyway.
• 13:13
  Matt: But anyway.
• 13:15
  Matt: So we got a good show for you on tap today.
• 13:17
  Matt: We got some twists.
• 13:18
  Matt: We got some turns.
• 13:20
  Matt: And uh we have a um a special return that I think everybody is gonna be excited for a little bit later in the episode.
• 13:28
  Matt: Uh of course, it's probably gonna be I'm probably gonna put in the description so you already know.
• 13:32
  Matt: Anyway, Eric, should we jump into some questions?
• 13:34
  Matt: You know, I think we should.
• 13:37
  Eric: Like, I don't want to be I don't want to be that guy, but like we probably should.
• 13:40
  Matt: Now, Eric, the first question is a follow-up from a direct request that we made a f a few episodes, two episodes ago, I believe, by the time this comes out.
• 13:52
  Matt: Um and this comes from Jennifer who asks, what is the best and worst way to spend spoons?
• 14:04
  Matt: My votes, they included votes, my votes are best equals sex or bubble baths, worst equals cleaning or working.
• 14:13
  Eric: So, Matt, I am I am thrilled that we have this question because I finally, if you recall a while back, uh, when we were giving, might I add, kick-ass marriage counseling advice.
• 14:25
  Matt: Absolutely.
• 14:26
  Matt: We saved that marriage.
• 14:27
  Eric: Oh, we yeah, they were they were ready to they had both were trapped in like planning immensely complex plots for you know murdering each other and making it look like an accident.
• 14:39
  Eric: Oh yes.
• 14:40
  Eric: Uh we we we stopped that shit right in its tracks.
• 14:43
  Matt: Oh yes.
• 14:44
  Matt: Uh we we stepped in at a critical point.
• 14:48
  Matt: And if you and your spouse are are in need of some sort of low-level disagreement solution, by all means call the thought line and let us know.
• 15:00
  Eric: Uh, please wait though, have some courtesy, wait till it gets to the point where you're probably gonna murder each other.
• 15:05
  Eric: I don't want to do any of this.
• 15:06
  Eric: I need the stakes to be, you know, I I have a standard.
• 15:10
  Matt: They need to be high and also high.
• 15:12
  Matt: Uh I can hear our at our attorney uh at Carissa Hatfield weighing in to say, do not listen to any of our advice.
• 15:23
  Matt: Um uh can I say uh counsel, may I say legally wink.
• 15:33
  Matt: Um so so now I get to I get to explain spoons to you.
• 15:40
  Matt: I guess you do, and I you said that last time, so I didn't I have I don't have extra tabs open.
• 15:45
  Matt: I don't have the Wikipedia article open because let me tell you something.
• 15:49
  Matt: This spoon thing came out of fucking nowhere.
• 15:53
  Matt: All of a sudden Lindsay started saying it, and I let it go a couple times.
• 15:56
  Matt: I let it go once or twice.
• 15:57
  Matt: I don't have the spoons for that, I don't have the spoons for that.
• 16:00
  Matt: And then finally I was like, what fucking spoons are you talking about?
• 16:04
  Matt: And why is everyone suddenly in on the spoons?
• 16:06
  Matt: And why am I the only one who didn't get some sort of memo on what these spoons are, how they work, how I can get more of them.
• 16:14
  Matt: I don't think I have any of them, and what they represent.
• 16:18
  Matt: And Eric, t I guess take it away.
• 16:23
  Eric: Matthew, step into my office.
• 16:25
  Eric: Um I'm gonna explain this the same way, like I'm I'm gonna give you one of my favorite openings that I give when I'm teaching a class, which is um so the good news is you already know what they are.
• 16:39
  Eric: You just didn't know we called them that.
• 16:42
  Eric: Okay.
• 16:44
  Eric: So, Matt, in in the most basic sense, spoons represent your energy for a day.
• 16:54
  Eric: And when I when I when I when I say like your energy, that is a combination of your physical ability to do something, your emotional ability to do something, and just like the general amount of fucks you have to give.
• 17:07
  Matt: Yeah, believe it or not, I I got that part.
• 17:11
  Matt: You know what I mean?
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:13
  Matt: I put that together with my old noodle.
• 17:16
  Eric: So spoons is just what people landed on.
• 17:19
  Eric: It could have been called anything else.
• 17:22
  Eric: Anything of which there is a finite resource that replenishes itself, you know, about every day.
• 17:29
  Eric: So we treat it like spoons in a drawer.
• 17:31
  Eric: Like, you know, you you go to your drawer, you're like, all right, I need a spoon to eat this food.
• 17:36
  Eric: You take a spoon out, you eat your food, like, all right, oh, I need I need to use I need another spoon.
• 17:39
  Eric: But then eventually, Matt, you go to open the drawer, there's no spoons left.
• 17:43
  Eric: So you so what people talk about is like you've got your spoons in your drawer, you get a fresh drawer of them every day.
• 17:50
  Eric: Some days you got a whole lot of spoons.
• 17:53
  Eric: Some days, yeah, you know, maybe we forgot to run the dishwasher, so maybe there's only a few spoons.
• 17:58
  Eric: So like we think about spoons in terms of budgeting our fucks to give and ability to get shit done for the day.
• 18:06
  Eric: It just helps people to have like a visual thing to their thing.
• 18:10
  Eric: And so when you know, when someone says I'm out of spoons, what they're telling you is I am most assuredly physically like capable of doing something.
• 18:19
  Eric: Like I could do this, I just can't.
• 18:22
  Eric: I'm out of gas.
• 18:23
  Eric: I don't have the mental, emotional, spiritual, whatever capacity to do the thing that you want me to do.
• 18:31
  Eric: I am out of spoons.
• 18:33
  Eric: Okay.
• 18:33
  Eric: So when the question is, so again, going back to that idea of each day, there's no such thing as infinite spoons.
• 18:41
  Eric: Okay.
• 18:42
  Eric: And each day, and you know, most people when they wake up in the morning, you get a pretty good vibe for how many fucks you have to give that day.
• 18:49
  Eric: I I don't know about you, but like me personally, within the first hour of my day, like within the first hour of waking up, I know where I'm at for the rest of the day.
• 18:58
  Matt: I think I'm I think I'm having a disturbing realization, Eric.
• 19:01
  Matt: Yeah.
• 19:02
  Matt: I think I might not have any spoons.
• 19:05
  Matt: I don't think I might got any when they were distributed.
• 19:08
  Eric: So you got spoons.
• 19:10
  Eric: And that's the good news, Matt.
• 19:11
  Eric: Everyone has spoons, but some people have more, some people have less.
• 19:15
  Eric: It fluctuates from day to day.
• 19:16
  Matt: Okay.
• 19:17
  Eric: And I'll say, Matt, like, you've got spoons.
• 19:19
  Eric: You're here right now with me.
• 19:20
  Eric: This is you spending one of your spoons.
• 19:22
  Eric: Or two of your spoons.
• 19:23
  Eric: You're spending it on this?
• 19:24
  Eric: You're spending it on this.
• 19:25
  Eric: This and that's the thing about spoon theory.
• 19:28
  Eric: That's that's kind of why they they hone in on that visualization, is because people don't realize like stuff costs spoons.
• 19:34
  Eric: You know, we go to the grocery store today to buy groceries, that costs spoons.
• 19:38
  Eric: Record a podcast with one of your dearest friends whom whom you admire.
• 19:42
  Eric: And there's like kind of like a low-key, like, sort of sexual tension there that neither of you is addressing.
• 19:49
  Eric: That costs spoons.
• 19:51
  Eric: Sure.
• 19:51
  Eric: So, like, that's what helps people when they get into spoon theory.
• 19:54
  Eric: And there are so many people on the internet who can explain this so much better than I can, but that's the the general gist of it.
• 20:00
  Eric: So you have spoons, you're spending one right now.
• 20:02
  Eric: But like, so you know, you've got a you've got your day.
• 20:04
  Eric: It's a pre it's your precious resource.
• 20:06
  Eric: Just think of it like that.
• 20:07
  Eric: It is your that's why I said the the comparison I said in the last episode was um I mentioned it very briefly.
• 20:13
  Eric: For you, the the the the analogy might be, you know, pitchers in the bullpen.
• 20:18
  Eric: Like right.
• 20:19
  Eric: You know, you only got so many you can call out before you're you're scraping.
• 20:23
  Eric: Absolutely.
• 20:24
  Matt: I yeah, I understand.
• 20:25
  Matt: There's only so many before you're at a real critical critical mass.
• 20:30
  Eric: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Eric: So so the question is, uh, what is the best and worst way to spend spoons?
• 20:36
  Eric: Essentially, what are the best and worst ways to spend your your fucks to give your energy?
• 20:43
  Matt: Well, Jennifer also submitted a follow-up, which is if spoons describe how much energy one has, so you you two are very aligned there, what would hypothetical knives and forks represent?
• 20:59
  Matt: Yep.
• 21:00
  Matt: And they suggested uh again, knives equal anger, forks equals attention span.
• 21:09
  Matt: So we have that to deal with now.
• 21:11
  Eric: So let's it's uh it's just coloring the question, though, I think.
• 21:15
  Eric: Yeah, oh yes, yes.
• 21:16
  Eric: We'll we'll we'll get to that.
• 21:18
  Eric: No.
• 21:18
  unknown: Okay.
• 21:19
  Eric: You're in my office and have some.
• 21:20
  Eric: I'm in your office.
• 21:22
  Eric: Or not.
• 21:22
  Eric: We're yeah, we're which stress toy are you taking off of my desk, by the way?
• 21:26
  Eric: I have plenty.
• 21:27
  Eric: Which one do you see?
• 21:28
  Eric: What calls do you?
• 21:29
  Matt: I see a I see a squeeze ball.
• 21:34
  Matt: Okay.
• 21:34
  Matt: Uh and it's shaped like the stay puffed marshmallow man.
• 21:40
  Matt: Hell yeah.
• 21:41
  Matt: Go on.
• 21:41
  Matt: Go on, you can take it.
• 21:42
  Matt: I'm squeezing him, washing his eyes bulge as I see.
• 21:51
  Eric: You know, when the Ghostbusters movie came out, their special promotion, you get this out of a out of a box of Fruit Loops, and I got it.
• 21:57
  Eric: So now it's like 90.
• 22:00
  Matt: You're you're older than you are.
• 22:01
  Matt: Why why in this situation are you lying about your?
• 22:05
  Eric: Don't step into my office.
• 22:06
  Matt: Like further into my I'm already in your office.
• 22:08
  Eric: You have an inner office?
• 22:10
  Eric: I yes.
• 22:11
  Eric: I open up like a trap door in the floor.
• 22:13
  Eric: I'm like, Matthew, follow me.
• 22:14
  Eric: You've passed the first test.
• 22:16
  Matt: Come down into the other off.
• 22:17
  Matt: Is this where you keep the spoons?
• 22:19
  Eric: And as we're climbing into this little trap door, that's what I'm like.
• 22:21
  Eric: So so what so what's the best worst way to spend spoons, do you think?
• 22:25
  Matt: Okay, so now just two review in this hypothetical situation.
• 22:28
  Matt: I've lit a torch.
• 22:29
  Eric: I have a torch.
• 22:30
  Eric: It's dark out here.
• 22:31
  Matt: We're in a tunnel underneath your office, as if we're going underneath King's Landing.
• 22:37
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 22:38
  Eric: There's like lichen and shit hanging from the walls.
• 22:40
  Eric: Absolutely.
• 22:41
  Eric: There's a draft.
• 22:42
  Eric: Absolutely.
• 22:44
  Eric: Where we conspire in the catacombs.
• 22:48
  Eric: Every couple of minutes I stop you and like we stop and listen.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 22:54
  Eric: Okay, keep going.
• 22:55
  Eric: So I I mean I I I can tell you like I I think one are my best and worst ways to spend spoons.
• 23:03
  Eric: Um give them to me.
• 23:04
  Eric: And this is gonna be so personal for everyone.
• 23:07
  Eric: Me, I honestly, honest to God, um, this is a pretty recent one.
• 23:13
  Eric: Uh one of my favorite ways to spend spoons on is self-care, and which I'm sure a lot of people are you know hearing those words and going, Well yeah.
• 23:22
  Eric: But recently I've kind of broadened my my definition of self-care.
• 23:26
  Eric: Oh, tell me.
• 23:27
  Eric: So for me, self-care was always like, like Jennifer pointed out, like bubble baths, treat yourself, buy that Batman action figure, eat some rice crispy treats, take a bubble bath.
• 23:37
  Eric: But recently I've realized that I can expand self-care to include things that are literally taking care of myself.
• 23:43
  Eric: Like, you know what, I'm gonna practice self-care today by tidying my living space.
• 23:48
  Eric: Or you know, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go, you know, go walk around the front yard, pick up any trash that might have blown into the yard from across the park.
• 23:55
  Eric: Like stuff like that makes me feel good.
• 23:58
  Eric: I like spending spoons on that because at the end of the day, I know that those spoons were spent on good things for me.
• 24:05
  Matt: I think, I'm not sure, but I think what you're describing is chores.
• 24:10
  Eric: Yeah, but that's and that's kind of what I'm getting at.
• 24:14
  Eric: Is like I I I try to I try to eliminate thinking about them as an obligation that I must fulfill work.
• 24:21
  Eric: And I was like, no, you're doing this because you like yourself and you want yourself to have nice things.
• 24:28
  Matt: Now that said, I still think that is good framing.
• 24:31
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:32
  Matt: I think that's good framing.
• 24:34
  Matt: And what I mean by that is I think you're lying to yourself.
• 24:36
  Matt: Oh, 100%.
• 24:37
  Matt: 100%.
• 24:39
  Matt: But I think it I think you're onto something.
• 24:40
  Matt: I think that's a good lie to tell.
• 24:42
  Eric: Oh, yeah.
• 24:43
  Eric: That is that is a good that is if I gotta lie to myself, that's a good one.
• 24:47
  Matt: Absolutely.
• 24:48
  Matt: I support that use of the spoons.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:52
  Matt: I support that use of the spoons.
• 24:54
  Matt: Now, what's a worst way?
• 24:57
  Matt: If if chores as self-care, yeah, chores as self-care is your your pro, what is a bad way to spend spoons?
• 25:07
  Eric: Work meetings.
• 25:10
  Eric: God, they take spoons.
• 25:12
  Eric: Absolutely, they do.
• 25:13
  Eric: They sure do.
• 25:14
  Eric: And the worst part is, and I'm sure you've experienced this, even when it's a meeting where I never open my mouth or contribute anything, even once.
• 25:25
  Eric: Oh no, that's a spoon.
• 25:26
  Eric: It's still a spoon.
• 25:27
  Eric: At the end of it, I have still spent my precious spoon because the whole it's just this thing, the whole time I am just sitting there and I have to like pay attention.
• 25:38
  Eric: Pay attention to it.
• 25:38
  Eric: I have to like have it is constantly in my mind.
• 25:41
  Eric: I can't do anything else.
• 25:42
  Eric: I am trapped at my desk.
• 25:43
  Eric: That is, that I can feel my spoon just dissolving in my hands.
• 25:46
  Matt: Like, no.
• 25:47
  Matt: Yeah, no.
• 25:48
  Matt: Much the same way.
• 25:49
  Matt: I'm much the same way.
• 25:50
  Matt: I think uh that's an automatic spoon.
• 25:52
  Matt: I think almost almost anything related to your job, if you can call it a job, even if you love your job.
• 26:00
  Eric: Even if you love your job.
• 26:01
  Matt: So that is a that is a spoon.
• 26:03
  Matt: That it comes at a cost.
• 26:05
  Eric: Yes.
• 26:06
  Matt: Yes, yes, yes, 100%.
• 26:08
  Matt: It's costing you nine hours of your life.
• 26:10
  Matt: It's definitely costing you a spoon.
• 26:12
  Matt: How about you?
• 26:12
  Matt: Best and worst.
• 26:14
  Matt: Well, I mean, uh the uh after pointing out sex, it's hard to rule it out.
• 26:23
  Eric: Sex slaps, metaphorically and literally.
• 26:27
  Eric: Nice.
• 26:28
  Eric: Nice, nice.
• 26:29
  Matt: Yeah, that's worth a spoon or two for sure.
• 26:33
  Matt: Uh but those were provided to us, so I we uh those almost go without saying.
• 26:41
  Matt: I'm really giving this a contemplative thought now.
• 26:44
  Eric: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:45
  Eric: Why don't you ask your wife, Lindsay, if she knows anything you like to spend spoons on?
• 26:50
  Matt: I'm sure I'm sure she uh could come up with a thing or two um in the previous context and beyond.
• 26:58
  Matt: Um A, uh so the I do like oh like what?
• 27:12
  Matt: Isn't that what you were alluding to?
• 27:14
  Eric: No, I was alluding to the fact that you could spend time with your wife.
• 27:20
  Matt: Yeah, I mean that's pretty intimate time, I'd say.
• 27:25
  Eric: Your response is just like, oh yeah, yeah, no, boning.
• 27:29
  Eric: Yes, indeed.
• 27:31
  Matt: Oh it was just oh it fucked me up.
• 27:37
  Matt: I guess I don't I what here's here's where I'm struggling.
• 27:41
  Matt: I think this is why I'm being compla contemplative.
• 27:44
  Matt: Yeah, because even your even your positive example was was a work, was like traditionally a negative thing.
• 27:53
  Matt: Because it I don't think of sex as like a spending spoons on.
• 27:58
  Matt: Like I don't think it is a necessarily a cost.
• 28:01
  Matt: Whereas like going to work costs me spoons and listening to somebody complain to somebody at a register about two cents coming off of their receipt, that costs me a spoon from four people back in line.
• 28:13
  Matt: Those things I can get behind you on spoons, but these these positive things, like I was thinking, like, oh well, when I specifically arrange a day to like sit out on the porch with a coffee and a book, that's nice.
• 28:24
  Matt: I don't think that costs me a spoon, even though I did have to arrange the day.
• 28:29
  Matt: Sure.
• 28:29
  Matt: Go ahead, take it away.
• 28:31
  Eric: Matt, now that we're we're in the tunnel, right?
• 28:33
  Eric: Torch held aloft, where could we possibly be?
• 28:36
  Eric: Ooh, what's this?
• 28:38
  Eric: Secret passage, baby.
• 28:39
  Eric: Secret passage leads right back into my office.
• 28:42
  Eric: One good argument.
• 28:43
  Eric: So yeah.
• 28:44
  Eric: So good.
• 28:45
  Eric: So here we are.
• 28:46
  Eric: I put I put the torch in a sconce that wasn't in the office when you first came in.
• 28:50
  Eric: Absolutely.
• 28:51
  Eric: So, no, that is the thing about spoons, and that is the key to understanding them.
• 28:55
  Eric: Everything costs spoons, Matt.
• 28:57
  Eric: Even the things we love and enjoy to do costs energy, costs fucks to give.
• 29:03
  Eric: For example, could you theoretically?
• 29:06
  Eric: Or actually, let me let me back that up.
• 29:08
  Eric: Let me ask you a question.
• 29:09
  Eric: Has there ever been a time in your life when you're like, man, I would love to make sweet, sweet love right now.
• 29:17
  Eric: I just don't have it in me.
• 29:18
  Eric: I would love.
• 29:19
  Eric: Sure.
• 29:20
  Eric: Yes.
• 29:21
  Eric: And that's because sex costs spoons, baby.
• 29:23
  Eric: Because you didn't, because I didn't have the spoons.
• 29:26
  Eric: You didn't have the spoons.
• 29:27
  Eric: That's a perfect time to say, like, I want to, yes, I don't have the spoons.
• 29:32
  Eric: That's like, that is what the spoons represent.
• 29:35
  Eric: Are I'm like, regardless of our desires or aversions or what have you, spoons represent the the ability to just do the thing.
• 29:46
  Eric: I see.
• 29:47
  Eric: And even with things we love doing.
• 29:49
  Eric: Uh-huh.
• 29:49
  Eric: Run out of spoons.
• 29:50
  Eric: Hell, I love DMing.
• 29:51
  Eric: There have been many times when I've had to message my players, be like, homies, fam, don't have the spoons.
• 29:57
  Eric: Can't like want to so bad.
• 29:59
  Eric: Just do not have it in me.
• 30:01
  Eric: All right.
• 30:02
  Matt: I I I I hear you.
• 30:05
  Matt: I don't know that I agree with this.
• 30:07
  Matt: I don't know that I agree with that.
• 30:08
  Matt: I don't know that I like it.
• 30:10
  Matt: All right.
• 30:11
  Matt: I'm just pointing it out there because I think I don't know.
• 30:15
  Matt: I still have these questions.
• 30:16
  Matt: Why spoons?
• 30:18
  Matt: Are we taking are we taking is there some sort of vat of a soup or a borscht that we're that we're taking things out of?
• 30:25
  Matt: That's what the soups, the spoons imply to me.
• 30:28
  Matt: That we that there's a greater metaphysical metaphor out there.
• 30:33
  Eric: The the metaphysical thing is you got a you got a metaphysical drawer full of spoons.
• 30:37
  Eric: And you need spoons.
• 30:38
  Eric: I know that.
• 30:39
  Eric: You've told me that eight times already.
• 30:43
  Eric: I understand the metaphor.
• 30:45
  Eric: Matt, come take a look at my bookshelf here.
• 30:48
  Eric: Stop taking me, please.
• 30:49
  Eric: I pull the book out and the bookshelf starts rotating around.
• 30:52
  Eric: Follow me here.
• 30:53
  Eric: Follow me here.
• 30:53
  Eric: Yeah, where are we now?
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, oh, we're circles room.
• 30:59
  Eric: We're back here.
• 31:00
  Eric: Matthew, this is where we hide all your spoons.
• 31:02
  Matt: You shouldn't have this in your office place.
• 31:05
  Eric: No, but that's what I was trying to get at earlier.
• 31:07
  Eric: Like, really don't get too hung up on the spoons aspect.
• 31:10
  Eric: Like, it that's just the one that got that's the one that became the meme.
• 31:14
  Eric: That's the one that that stuck.
• 31:16
  Eric: Spoons in a drawer.
• 31:17
  Eric: A finite resource inside of a container, the container being your your body and mind.
• 31:22
  Eric: All right.
• 31:23
  Matt: Here's a good here's a good here's here.
• 31:25
  Matt: I'll give you something, okay?
• 31:27
  Matt: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Matt: I'll give you something.
• 31:29
  Matt: Give me something.
• 31:30
  Matt: For me, baking.
• 31:32
  Matt: I'm a very good baker, but it takes a lot out of me.
• 31:37
  Matt: It costs a lot of spoons for me to embark on a baking project.
• 31:45
  Eric: 100%.
• 31:46
  Matt: But I'm glad that it exists when I'm done.
• 31:49
  Eric: Yeah.
• 31:50
  Matt: But it takes a lot out of me.
• 31:52
  Matt: Exactly.
• 31:54
  Matt: My spoons.
• 31:55
  Matt: Yeah, because I like it.
• 31:56
  Matt: I think I still think I didn't get any when these were distributed.
• 31:59
  Matt: I think if I think I had to forge my own, if anything.
• 32:03
  Eric: Mmm.
• 32:05
  Matt: I'm just imagining like a you like a blacksmith with a spoon on the end, but like, yeah, because everyone else is out here eating their ice cream and their bush and their porridge.
• 32:15
  Matt: And here I am with a banana.
• 32:18
  Matt: Still got the bananas.
• 32:20
  Matt: Stand around with a banana like some kind of asshole.
• 32:23
  Matt: Somebody has got all these utensils.
• 32:27
  Matt: Anyway, so yeah, that's what I'd spend it on.
• 32:30
  Matt: Uh in a good way.
• 32:31
  Matt: And we'll get it to him.
• 32:32
  Matt: I think it's a good, it's a it's a good, that's something that's good to spend spoons on.
• 32:37
  Eric: I absolutely agree.
• 32:38
  Eric: How about what what's your what's your worst?
• 32:40
  Eric: Are we sticking with work meetings, or is there anything else you can think of where you're like, I hate spoons?
• 32:47
  Eric: Well, Matt, step out of my office for a moment.
• 32:51
  Eric: Absolutely.
• 32:52
  Eric: All right.
• 32:52
  Eric: Thank God.
• 32:53
  Eric: We're out of here.
• 32:56
  Eric: I've been crying visibly.
• 32:58
  Eric: Oh, okay.
• 32:58
  Eric: My eyes are all puffy and red.
• 33:00
  Eric: It was a joke, Eric.
• 33:01
  Matt: It was one of those comical witticisms I throw out.
• 33:05
  Matt: Oh, yeah, bro.
• 33:05
  Eric: I know, I know, I know.
• 33:06
  Eric: I lovingly punch you in the arm and then like step into my office.
• 33:09
  Matt: I thought I was already back in the office.
• 33:10
  Matt: I think you kick me out briefly.
• 33:12
  Matt: I had a little cry set.
• 33:14
  Matt: Now we're now we're back in in earnest.
• 33:16
  Matt: Absolutely.
• 33:16
  Matt: Okay, Eric, let me uh actually come with me back next door to my office, actually.
• 33:21
  Eric: Oh, oh yeah.
• 33:21
  Eric: Oh, nice fucking office, my guy.
• 33:24
  Matt: Yeah, thank you.
• 33:24
  Matt: Yeah.
• 33:25
  Matt: You like the shot glasses?
• 33:26
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:27
  Matt: It's good.
• 33:27
  Matt: Yeah, it's good.
• 33:28
  Matt: It's a customs blanket.
• 33:29
  Eric: Is that 200?
• 33:31
  Matt: Yeah.
• 33:33
  Matt: No, it's over two.
• 33:34
  Matt: It's way over two.
• 33:35
  Matt: I'll show you the scriptures.
• 33:36
  Matt: Sorry, I didn't see this.
• 33:36
  Matt: Right now we're we're having a conversation.
• 33:38
  Matt: I'd say uh a bad thing to spend spoons on.
• 33:41
  Matt: I mean anything related to to work.
• 33:44
  Matt: Or anything obligatory.
• 33:46
  Matt: Anything obligatory.
• 33:47
  Matt: Anything obligatory for sure.
• 33:49
  Eric: Laundry, I don't want to spend spoons on that.
• 33:52
  Eric: I don't know what it is about laundry that is just such a Herculean task to me.
• 33:56
  Eric: I suck at doing laundry.
• 33:59
  Matt: Absolutely.
• 34:00
  Matt: Um I'm just affirming what you're saying.
• 34:03
  Matt: You do suck at laundry, is what I'm trying to do.
• 34:05
  Matt: Oh, thank you.
• 34:06
  Eric: Thank you.
• 34:07
  Eric: You notice my my suit is very rumpled and stained.
• 34:12
  Eric: We all do, Eric.
• 34:13
  Matt: Everybody notice.
• 34:14
  Matt: Everyone's always noticed.
• 34:16
  Matt: Yes, they have.
• 34:17
  Matt: So uh now, Eric, um uh if you could just uh come over here behind my desk and take out the second drawer on the left.
• 34:26
  Matt: Just take it out.
• 34:27
  Matt: Oh, oh, what am I looking at here, man?
• 34:29
  Matt: Yeah, it's the elevator.
• 34:30
  Matt: Yeah, we're going down now.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh fuck yeah! Elevator dead.
• 34:33
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:34
  Matt: So we're dropping down uh in into the mat cave.
• 34:38
  Matt: Um Mat Cave.
• 34:39
  Matt: Here we are on the Mat Cave.
• 34:41
  Matt: And I bright you.
• 34:43
  Matt: And it's like your face taking up the screen.
• 34:45
  Matt: Uh precisely.
• 34:50
  Matt: So uh I could easily have found a sound effect, but I prefer to make our own.
• 34:56
  Eric: Uh we they anyone would be fucking blessed to have us as Foley artists, Matthew.
• 35:03
  Matt: Absolutely, they would.
• 35:05
  Matt: Okay, so um I brought you down here, Eric, to uh uh introduce you to uh Horatio, who is uh Taylor.
• 35:16
  Matt: He's gonna help you out with uh wardrobe choices and me as well, because I'm not gonna pretend that I am a well-dressed man.
• 35:22
  Eric: Okay, so we're getting fitted for suits while we have this conversation.
• 35:26
  Matt: Yes, and it's gonna, I think, cost us a couple spoons.
• 35:30
  Eric: 100%.
• 35:30
  Eric: 100%.
• 35:32
  Matt: I'll tell you what I don't have spoons for.
• 35:33
  Matt: I'll tell you what, and I'll tell you what my wife will affirm that I don't have spoons for.
• 35:38
  Matt: Buying myself clothing.
• 35:39
  Matt: Yes.
• 35:40
  Matt: I have no spoons for whatsoever.
• 35:41
  Matt: 100%.
• 35:43
  Matt: Going shopping with me for clothes, I I don't know how my mom did it all those years.
• 35:50
  Matt: I hate it.
• 35:51
  Matt: Shoe shopping, I might as well jump off a fucking cliff.
• 35:54
  Matt: Buying pants is my night so much.
• 35:56
  Matt: God, I hate buying pants.
• 35:58
  Matt: I hate it.
• 35:59
  Matt: I hate it so much.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:02
  Matt: Hey, easy there, Horatio.
• 36:04
  Matt: Come on.
• 36:04
  Matt: No, a little bit you can let it out a little bit around the tumtum there.
• 36:07
  Eric: I'm a 34 in scene.
• 36:10
  Matt: You know, let me uh here's a little fitting ditty from um our college days.
• 36:16
  Matt: When I was being fitted, uh when we were in the production of McBee, the Scottish Play together, when I was being fitted for my costume, Cheryl, the costume shop manager at the time, um measured my biceps and said, Oh, yeah, we put a little on here over the summer.
• 36:34
  Matt: And I said, Thanks, Cheryl.
• 36:36
  Matt: And then she measured my waist and said, Oh, we put some on here too.
• 36:40
  Matt: And I went, got 'em.
• 36:42
  Matt: All right.
• 36:43
  Matt: All right, Cheryl.
• 36:44
  Matt: Just fucking take the number, all right?
• 36:45
  Matt: Finish.
• 36:46
  Matt: Finish.
• 36:46
  Matt: I didn't I didn't ask for a BMI assessment.
• 36:52
  Eric: Now, okay, now turn your head to the left and cough.
• 36:57
  Matt: All right.
• 36:58
  Matt: So I think I think we've I think we've answered the question.
• 37:02
  Matt: Yeah.
• 37:02
  Matt: I don't know.
• 37:03
  Eric: We've laid out some examples.
• 37:05
  Eric: Follow-up.
• 37:06
  Eric: So if spoons are our fucks to give and such, what do knives and forks represent?
• 37:11
  Eric: I do dig knives.
• 37:12
  Eric: Well, knives representing anger, a slight tweak.
• 37:16
  Eric: A slight tweak, if I may.
• 37:18
  unknown: Okay.
• 37:18
  Eric: Knives representing piss and vinegar, your vengeance meter.
• 37:23
  Eric: Okay.
• 37:23
  Eric: Yeah.
• 37:24
  Eric: I think if if I think if knives is the metaphor, then it is specifically energy you have to dick over someone who has wronged you.
• 37:32
  Eric: Yeah.
• 37:32
  Eric: I I I'm down with that.
• 37:34
  Matt: I think that bad.
• 37:35
  Matt: It's like reverse energy of the spoon almost.
• 37:37
  Matt: Exactly.
• 37:38
  Matt: They even made a movie about it called Knives Out.
• 37:40
  Matt: Nice.
• 37:40
  Matt: Love it.
• 37:41
  Matt: Also, Glass Onion dropping, I think.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's right.
• 37:45
  Eric: We got a sequel.
• 37:46
  Eric: Right now.
• 37:47
  Eric: I could listen to Daniel Craig talk like foghorn leghorn.
• 37:50
  Matt: Any day of the week.
• 37:51
  Eric: Any fucking day of the week.
• 37:53
  Matt: Now we have spent way too much time on this questionnaire.
• 37:56
  Matt: So I think we gotta move on to the next one.
• 37:57
  Matt: All right.
• 37:58
  Matt: So um step into the Matmobile here and we'll move on.
• 38:01
  Matt: Oh.
• 38:05
  Matt: And what do you know?
• 38:06
  Matt: It's a new question.
• 38:07
  Matt: Holy excel sheet, Mat Man.
• 38:09
  Eric: Hit it there.
• 38:10
  Eric: Yes.
• 38:10
  Eric: So in this era of toxic masculinity, what is the modern day quote test of manhood?
• 38:20
  Eric: And that's from at Holy Mole on Twitter.
• 38:24
  Matt: Yes, that is, but not just from Twitter, because uh Holy Mole sent us quite the quite the the email in which this was one of the uh the questions, and we're gonna talk about this email more.
• 38:39
  Matt: They are also the creator of the Strange Mole Show, which is a satirical uh sketch podcast.
• 38:47
  Matt: I did listen to it on the Good Pods not long ago.
• 38:51
  Matt: Uh check out the Strange Mole Show and uh holy mole, thank you for that question.
• 38:56
  Matt: Thank you, Eric.
• 38:58
  Matt: When we were talking about the the when we were saving that marriage.
• 39:01
  Matt: Yes.
• 39:02
  Matt: I can feel all our female listeners leaning in and saying, careful.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: Careful, Icarus.
• 39:13
  Matt: Careful now.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: What are we easy now?
• 39:17
  Matt: Oh, oh, yes, they yes, absolutely.
• 39:20
  Matt: We are flying, we're flying, we're gaining LT.
• 39:23
  Eric: And I'm like down there among them, and I'm just looking up at you, I'm like, fall, fall and be canceled.
• 39:31
  Matt: I don't think that's what Daedalus did, but uh anyway, the so here we are flying.
• 39:40
  Matt: So toxic masculinity obviously bad.
• 39:45
  Eric: Yeah, in fact, Matt, uh sooner or later we had to have this conversation.
• 39:50
  Eric: Uh anyone who identifies as as a man, please step into our office.
• 39:56
  Eric: Oh Matt.
• 39:57
  Eric: Step into the office.
• 39:57
  Eric: Step into the office.
• 39:59
  Eric: All right, all right.
• 40:00
  Eric: Uh boys, fellas, gents, lads, we're fucking up.
• 40:07
  Eric: Have been for some time, but pretty much from day one, I would say, Matt.
• 40:13
  Matt: Absolutely, day one.
• 40:14
  Eric: Uh yeah.
• 40:16
  Eric: Yeah.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're we're we're not, you know, we're done fucked up.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: We done fucked up.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: We we we we we strayed from the past a few times.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: Guys, I we are actively fucking up.
• 40:31
  Matt: As I fellas, just trying to talk about how we fucked up.
• 40:37
  Matt: We are, I am sure of it.
• 40:40
  Matt: Fucking up.
• 40:40
  Eric: Yeah, by virtue of of us being the ones to talk about how you you get it.
• 40:46
  Eric: You get it.
• 40:47
  Eric: Like we're we can all agree.
• 40:48
  Eric: My dudes, you get it.
• 40:50
  Eric: Thank you.
• 40:50
  Eric: My we can all agree.
• 40:52
  Eric: My brothers in class.
• 40:53
  Eric: Thank you, Air.
• 40:53
  Eric: Thank you.
• 40:54
  Eric: Yes, yes.
• 40:56
  Eric: So, in in this era of toxic masculinity, aka for forever.
• 41:02
  Matt: What is I think what they're asking is what should be the test of manhood in the non-toxic sense.
• 41:09
  Eric: Oh, absolutely.
• 41:10
  Matt: Because in the toxic sense, it'd be like, oh yeah, can you bear a knuckle box?
• 41:15
  Matt: Yeah, can you can you change a tire?
• 41:18
  Matt: Can you one 100%?
• 41:22
  Matt: I don't even know.
• 41:23
  Matt: You know what?
• 41:23
  Matt: I I can't even think of other examples.
• 41:25
  Matt: That's how untoxic I am.
• 41:30
  Matt: Oh, I wait, hold on.
• 41:31
  Matt: I'm getting I'm getting a note from Sarah, our producer.
• 41:35
  Matt: Uh that was toxic.
• 41:36
  Eric: Oh shit.
• 41:38
  Matt: Yeah.
• 41:38
  Matt: That itself is too yeah, yeah.
• 41:40
  Matt: Oh, I can't what's that?
• 41:42
  Matt: I can't help it.
• 41:43
  Matt: Oh, I see.
• 41:44
  Matt: I see.
• 41:45
  Matt: Oh, yikes.
• 41:47
  Eric: Um but without getting too far into the weeds, what would our idea of a non-toxic test of manhood be, Matthew?
• 41:57
  Matt: I'm glad you asked, Eric.
• 41:58
  Matt: Um yeah?
• 42:01
  Eric: I would just say first qualifier could put on it's something that might help a lot.
• 42:05
  Eric: Um, you know, maybe not.
• 42:07
  Eric: Maybe it doesn't have to be manhood.
• 42:09
  Eric: It's test of test of adult dom.
• 42:12
  Matt: Because what are we really asking?
• 42:14
  Matt: Is it is it are we not really asking we're talking about like, oh, proving yourself as a man or whatever.
• 42:19
  Matt: Are we not actually talking about like integrity?
• 42:22
  Eric: We're talking about integrity.
• 42:23
  Matt: You know?
• 42:24
  Eric: That and and and guys, hey, boy, boy, hey, eyes on me.
• 42:27
  Eric: One, two, three, eyes on me.
• 42:29
  Eric: Don't quiet coyote.
• 42:31
  Eric: Quiet Coyote.
• 42:32
  Eric: Look at him.
• 42:33
  Eric: His mouth is closed, his ears are up, and he is silent.
• 42:35
  Eric: When the tall one talks, you listen.
• 42:37
  Eric: Thank you.
• 42:38
  Eric: Thank you.
• 42:39
  Eric: Okay.
• 42:39
  Eric: Yeah, so this is gonna blow your guys' minds.
• 42:42
  Eric: Um, anyone, regardless of of gender, can have uh integrity and you know, absolutely, and courage and drive.
• 42:52
  Eric: And that those are the I I think honest to God, I think that's the that's the triangle.
• 42:57
  Eric: That's the fucking for like this test.
• 42:59
  Eric: It has to be something, you know, integrity, courage, and drive.
• 43:04
  Matt: Mmm, that's an interesting trial.
• 43:06
  Eric: Knowing, knowing the right thing, the courage to be able to do the right thing even when it's scary, and the personal drive, the spoons to actually do it.
• 43:18
  Matt: I like that.
• 43:19
  Matt: I like that.
• 43:20
  Matt: But do we not need to work in, and maybe this needs to be a swap out.
• 43:24
  Matt: What about compassion?
• 43:26
  Eric: Oh, for sure.
• 43:27
  Eric: I think that would fall under integrity.
• 43:28
  Eric: Like, I feel like I feel like a person who has integrity has compassion, has empathy and responsibility.
• 43:33
  Matt: All right, so we're saying it, so we're saying it's integrity, courage, and what was your third one?
• 43:38
  Matt: Drive.
• 43:38
  Matt: Term drive.
• 43:41
  Eric: Because if you have integrity and courage, that's people who just virtue signal.
• 43:45
  Eric: They're the ones like, well, I think about doing the right thing a lot, but they don't actually, you know, they haven't actually done the thing.
• 43:51
  Eric: If you just have, you know, fucking integrity and drive, you fold as soon as you meet any resistance because you don't have the Courage.
• 44:00
  Eric: Because you don't have the courage.
• 44:02
  Eric: Yeah.
• 44:02
  Eric: If you have courage and drive, then you become Elon Musk.
• 44:07
  Eric: Oh, well, let's not talk about him on this spot.
• 44:10
  Eric: You're missing the crew, the critical human empathy element there.
• 44:14
  Eric: You can get you're gonna be amazed at what you can accomplish when you take empathy out of the equation.
• 44:19
  Matt: Absolutely.
• 44:20
  Matt: So, well, what what jumps to mind for you?
• 44:23
  Matt: I'm I'm I'm call I'm I'm com I'm I'm cooking something up here.
• 44:27
  Matt: Here's what I'm thinking.
• 44:29
  Eric: I think whatever this test is, the result, the doing the thing or the accomplishing the thing, isn't so much as important as your response to once you've gotten on the other side of it.
• 44:44
  Eric: Do you know what I mean?
• 44:45
  Eric: Like I'm gonna climb that mountain, right?
• 44:47
  Eric: Like this is a pure metaphor.
• 44:48
  Eric: Sure.
• 44:49
  Eric: I'm gonna climb this metaphorical mountain.
• 44:51
  Eric: Whether or not I make it to the top is irrelevant.
• 44:54
  Eric: Okay.
• 44:55
  Eric: Who I am after I have made my attempt, that is the relevant bit.
• 45:01
  Eric: It's about the journey, not the destination, you understand.
• 45:04
  Eric: It's about the eyes.
• 45:05
  Eric: That's why it's a test.
• 45:07
  Eric: It's not like if you focus in too hard on, oh, I have to do this or else I'm not, you've already lost.
• 45:13
  Eric: But it's did you have the integrity to do it right?
• 45:16
  Eric: Did you have the courage to do it even though you were fucking terrified?
• 45:20
  Eric: And did you have the drive to go as far as you could, but also the wisdom to know when you got it when you gotta stop?
• 45:30
  Matt: Eric, that's very wise.
• 45:32
  Matt: That's very wise what you've said.
• 45:34
  Matt: But what is the test?
• 45:36
  Matt: That's what I'm saying.
• 45:36
  Matt: So, how does that apply?
• 45:37
  Matt: You gave me a metaphorical test.
• 45:39
  Matt: What's the real test?
• 45:41
  Matt: Because, like, in in the toxic sense, like I said, you could be like, Can you change a tire?
• 45:46
  Matt: Can you, you know, rotate your tires?
• 45:49
  Matt: I don't know why I'm exclusively going with automobile-based tasks.
• 45:56
  Matt: But perhaps that says something about me.
• 45:59
  Matt: But the uh let's not look in that mirror right now.
• 46:01
  Matt: Let's face away.
• 46:02
  Eric: Yeah, I mean, I I feel like in the past, tests of manhood, quote unquote, have been very physically focused.
• 46:08
  Eric: Like killing, climb, climb a mountain is a very like climb the tallest mountain in the world.
• 46:15
  Eric: Jump, jump this chopping wood.
• 46:18
  Eric: Chop wood.
• 46:19
  Eric: And I feel like that's missing the forest for the trees.
• 46:21
  Eric: I'm like, any, you know, it's it's we've been there, we've done that.
• 46:26
  Eric: So you think we need to go more emotional?
• 46:28
  Eric: I think we need to go more emotional, more physical.
• 46:32
  Eric: I think I've never met anyone whose character I was able to accurately judge by their ability to chop wood.
• 46:40
  Eric: I don't think so either, Eric.
• 46:42
  Eric: No offense to my wood choppers.
• 46:44
  Eric: I see you.
• 46:44
  Eric: You are valid.
• 46:45
  Matt: What about this?
• 46:46
  Matt: Yes.
• 46:47
  Matt: Is if we're if we're going with an actual literal test.
• 46:51
  Matt: Yes.
• 46:52
  Matt: Could it be something like you sit down in a chair, no phone, no computer, no distractions, whatever, and you have another person sitting across from you, are you able to have a conversation with that person?
• 47:10
  Matt: Are you able to get to know this person and then understand their their perspective a little bit more?
• 47:19
  Matt: Because a toxic man, a toxic man, I don't think concerns themselves with the true feelings and experiences of others.
• 47:30
  Matt: That's what makes them toxic.
• 47:32
  Eric: Matt, you know, I I you've you've started me down a path.
• 47:36
  Eric: I do like this.
• 47:36
  Eric: There's like another person in the room with you.
• 47:39
  Eric: Hear me out.
• 47:40
  Eric: I'm listening.
• 47:41
  Eric: Whoever you are, if you can hear my voice, there is someone on this planet who fucking hates your gats.
• 47:48
  Eric: Sorry.
• 47:48
  Eric: They they can't stand you.
• 47:50
  Eric: They don't like anything about you.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:52
  Eric: They probably never even met you.
• 47:53
  Eric: They passed you on the street, they saw the way you looked, the way you walked, the way you talked, the way you are, and they dislike everything about you.
• 48:00
  Eric: They disliked you.
• 48:02
  Eric: I feel like the true test of adultom is having to do a two-person escape room with that person.
• 48:09
  Matt: Okay, Eric.
• 48:11
  Matt: All right.
• 48:11
  Matt: You're speaking my language now.
• 48:14
  Matt: Because depending on your reaction into an escape room, because an escape room, I've done many.
• 48:19
  Matt: And I'll I'll be honest.
• 48:20
  Matt: I've another public me occult by this is the theme of the next 50 episodes, I guess.
• 48:28
  Matt: Sometimes I have reacted to obstacles in an escape room in a toxic fashion.
• 48:33
  Matt: I admit it.
• 48:34
  Matt: I admit it.
• 48:35
  Matt: I unnecessarily angry.
• 48:38
  Matt: Yeah.
• 48:38
  Matt: Uh that has happened.
• 48:40
  Matt: Because I take I take puzzles very seriously.
• 48:44
  Matt: So, and I'm good at escape rooms.
• 48:46
  Matt: So I do run into a certain level of frustration.
• 48:51
  Matt: Sorry, Siri started speaking.
• 48:54
  Matt: Siri, you ignorant slut.
• 48:56
  Matt: And I had the urge to to to rip the watch off of my wrist, but I didn't.
• 49:02
  Matt: I didn't.
• 49:03
  Matt: And that's growth.
• 49:04
  Matt: That's progress.
• 49:05
  Matt: But that but um but what I'm saying is if you're able to get through it's gotta be a hard escape room.
• 49:14
  Matt: It's gotta be a hard escape room.
• 49:15
  Eric: It has gotta be an escape room that neither one of you is capable of doing on your own.
• 49:20
  Eric: And that's kind of like the overarching idea I'm also playing to, too, is it doesn't have to be a literal escape room, but I think the true test of a human is not what can you accomplish on your own.
• 49:32
  Eric: Yeah.
• 49:33
  Eric: Not even what can you accomplish when you have help.
• 49:35
  Eric: What can you do?
• 49:37
  Eric: How far are you willing to go?
• 49:39
  Eric: And how far much can you accomplish by circumstance, by fate, by whatever stars aligned, where you are forced to work alongside someone who you cannot stand and who cannot stand you.
• 49:52
  Matt: Because the oh, so you are specifically doing the two-person escape room with the person you can't stand.
• 49:59
  Eric: Oh yes.
• 50:00
  Eric: Oh because this is oh, what's that rattling around in here?
• 50:05
  Eric: Uh-oh.
• 50:06
  Eric: It's the hard pill to swallow, Matt.
• 50:08
  Eric: Hard pill to swallow.
• 50:10
  Eric: And that's and this is why it's called like a test.
• 50:13
  Eric: You will be tested because I don't, fellas, can we all hear me?
• 50:18
  Eric: So hey guys, guys, up here, up here.
• 50:21
  Eric: So it turns out that at some point in your life, whether you like it or not, you're going to have to work together with someone you fucking hate.
• 50:33
  Eric: Uh, and I think that that is the true test of of human dom is when that time comes when you've gotta do the escape room, when you've gotta when you've gotta do the thing.
• 50:45
  Matt: And there is like a competitive edge and an ego edge to an escape room, which are are tenants of toxicness.
• 50:54
  Eric: Oh, for sure.
• 50:55
  Eric: Can you navigate it without turning it into a pissing contest?
• 50:59
  Matt: Eric, I think this is a good test.
• 51:01
  Matt: And Eric, I hate to say it, but I think both of us would not necessarily pass this test.
• 51:06
  Eric: Oh no, that's the thing.
• 51:07
  Eric: Yeah, like I'm not gonna sit here and propose a test of human dumb that I think I could knock out of the park.
• 51:12
  Eric: Hell no.
• 51:13
  Eric: I think it's gotta be hard.
• 51:15
  Eric: That's the point.
• 51:15
  Eric: Because you gotta work at it.
• 51:17
  Eric: You gotta work.
• 51:17
  Matt: You, you, you not only be ta you're gonna be toxic fellas from time to time.
• 51:22
  Eric: Yeah, the point isn't being acting or being correct 100% of the time.
• 51:29
  Eric: The point is being able to acknowledge when you're not, and we're like the point is to acknowledge when you're being toxic fellas.
• 51:36
  Eric: The point is to acknowledge recognize your own negative traits so that they don't control your whole fucking life, my babies.
• 51:44
  Matt: That's right.
• 51:45
  Matt: And yeah, you got it right, audience.
• 51:47
  Matt: We are available to be sitcom dads.
• 51:51
  Matt: We are castable.
• 51:52
  Matt: We are castable.
• 51:54
  Matt: Cast us in your boy meets worlds.
• 51:56
  Matt: Oh cast us in your full houses.
• 51:59
  Matt: Cast us in your Malcolms in the middles.
• 52:02
  Matt: In your Malcolms in the middle.
• 52:04
  Matt: Yes, what a of all the dads for you to pick out.
• 52:07
  Matt: Oh man.
• 52:07
  Matt: Hal is is a choice.
• 52:08
  Eric: Hal Hal is certainly a choice.
• 52:10
  Matt: I think I think we've I think we've answered the question from from Holy Mole, but oh, Eric, but what is this?
• 52:16
  Matt: Oh there's another part of this email that I want to extrove.
• 52:20
  Matt: Oh shit.
• 52:21
  Matt: I'm I'm gonna read it here.
• 52:23
  Matt: It says I'm applying for a guest role on the You Didn't Ask for This podcast.
• 52:34
  Matt: Well, he's gonna need one hell of a reference.
• 52:36
  Matt: I mean that's that's interesting.
• 52:39
  Matt: You should mention that, Eric, because he goes on to say, as an avid listener, may I please have a glowing, undeniable job reference for this opportunity from Matt and Eric, as promised to all listeners.
• 52:56
  Matt: Get legal on this.
• 52:57
  Matt: Eric.
• 52:57
  Matt: Get legal on this.
• 52:59
  Eric: Sarah, call legal in, please.
• 53:01
  Eric: Please, please, for the love of God.
• 53:02
  Eric: I don't know.
• 53:03
  Eric: I don't know who they are or what their names are.
• 53:05
  Eric: I just they're legal.
• 53:06
  Eric: Get all these men out of this office.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_00: What are all these fucking men dudes?
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: Throw them all of them out.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_00: You go go fuck them.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: Throw them off the belt.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: Don't go fuck.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: God damn, just I know it's time throw them out.
• 53:20
  Eric: Just move when someone's trying to walk down the street past you.
• 53:23
  Eric: Jesus.
• 53:25
  Eric: Fucking help.
• 53:27
  Eric: Put the seat down.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: All these goddamn men in here making it stink.
• 53:31
  Eric: So so legal legal has reviewed this.
• 53:34
  Eric: Uh apparently found the loophole, Matt.
• 53:38
  Eric: He he invoked the right of job reference to get onto our own show.
• 53:44
  Matt: Eric, I gotta be honest.
• 53:45
  Matt: We never saw it coming, Holy Mobile.
• 53:47
  Matt: That is we we never saw this come.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: God damn it.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: That took gumption.
• 53:52
  Matt: All right, we Eric, we we have been promising job reviews or job cute job reviews.
• 53:59
  Matt: We can bust that out.
• 54:00
  Matt: We've been promising job references as a voicemail for a very long time.
• 54:07
  Matt: For a very long time.
• 54:08
  Matt: Now, unfortunately, the loophole that he has uncovered, the voicemail we would leave would be for us.
• 54:16
  Eric: On our own phone.
• 54:17
  Eric: So I guess are we do we just want to glowing reference holy mole to each other on behalf of each other?
• 54:24
  Matt: I think what we need to do is we need to, yeah, I think we need to leave the reference for the hosts of You didn't ask for this, forgetting for just a moment that we are the hosts of You Didn't Ask.
• 54:40
  Matt: Okay.
• 54:40
  Matt: All right, so what we know is uh the Holy Mo hosts hosts the podcast.
• 54:46
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 54:46
  Matt: Uh Holy Holy Mo comes to us from oh hold on.
• 54:49
  Matt: Um from across the pond, Eric.
• 54:52
  Matt: Across the pond.
• 54:54
  Matt: Oh yes.
• 54:55
  Matt: Oh, yeah.
• 54:56
  Matt: Another one of those English.
• 54:59
  Matt: So so perhaps we need to keep that in mind when we leave the voicemail, when we leave the call.
• 55:07
  Matt: His condition.
• 55:08
  Matt: His condition.
• 55:10
  Eric: Yes.
• 55:10
  Eric: Yes, absolutely.
• 55:12
  Eric: Sorry, over there they call it consumption.
• 55:13
  Eric: Stop it.
• 55:14
  Eric: Stop it.
• 55:15
  Eric: Don't make an enemy out of these things.
• 55:16
  Eric: In my head, all British people like like clockwork throughout the day, they cough into handkerchiefs and then turn to the camera and the handkerchief is a blood spot on it.
• 55:25
  Eric: Like, why?
• 55:26
  Matt: What is this lore?
• 55:27
  Matt: This is the first time you're bringing this out.
• 55:30
  Eric: Blame Charles Dickens.
• 55:31
  Eric: He was a big fan.
• 55:32
  Matt: Holy mole, I apologize on behalf of my co-host.
• 55:36
  Matt: Okay.
• 55:37
  Matt: Uh so uh now that we've gotten that sort of uh Britisation that out of here.
• 55:44
  Eric: Britzcrimination is very good.
• 55:48
  Eric: Brit scrimination?
• 55:49
  Eric: We can't have been the first ones to come up with that.
• 55:52
  Matt: No, absolutely not.
• 55:53
  Matt: So now that we now that we have gotten that apparently obligatory thing out of the way, I don't know why this has become the our characterization.
• 56:04
  Matt: And I blame you for this.
• 56:06
  Eric: Whoa, hey, buddy, fuck you! See that right there, fellas.
• 56:09
  Eric: Were you watching?
• 56:10
  Eric: Tell me killing out rare critical.
• 56:12
  Eric: Oh, right, right, right.
• 56:13
  Eric: Pieces are shit.
• 56:15
  Eric: God can't believe I didn't stick around.
• 56:16
  Matt: They should know when we really want them to leave.
• 56:21
  Matt: All right, so we know that.
• 56:22
  Matt: We know that they have the gumption to ask directly for what they want.
• 56:29
  Matt: Yes.
• 56:29
  Matt: The courage.
• 56:30
  Eric: Uh the courage, the drive.
• 56:32
  Eric: The drive.
• 56:32
  Eric: And and the number one quality I could I could recommend to us um from my good personal friend, Holy Mole, who I've known.
• 56:41
  Eric: Like, I'm like, we go way back.
• 56:43
  Eric: Many minutes.
• 56:44
  Eric: His audacity.
• 56:45
  Eric: The audacity.
• 56:47
  Eric: The audacity.
• 56:48
  Eric: You I am speechless.
• 56:52
  Eric: He used my own, he used my own bit against me.
• 56:56
  Eric: I love it.
• 56:57
  Eric: He weaponized it.
• 56:59
  Eric: Eric.
• 56:59
  Eric: It was a non-violent takeover.
• 57:01
  Eric: That's a very non-toxic masculine.
• 57:04
  Eric: Like if you're gonna, if you're gonna, if you're gonna fuck someone over, do it via a bit.
• 57:08
  Eric: Do it via a bit.
• 57:10
  Matt: So and that's something we've always promoted on this show, is the commitment to a bit.
• 57:14
  Matt: So let's commit, Eric.
• 57:16
  Matt: I think it's time for us to leave this job reference.
• 57:21
  Matt: Yes.
• 57:23
  Matt: Alright, so I'm gonna put I'm gonna put in some some uh dial tone so we can really get the feel for the call.
• 57:29
  Matt: Perfect.
• 57:37
  Eric: Oh, hey boys.
• 57:39
  Eric: Thanks for letting us call the thought line.
• 57:41
  Eric: This is uh I'm Eric Poach.
• 57:44
  Eric: I'm I'm I am at Shay.
• 57:45
  Eric: It's interesting.
• 57:46
  Eric: That feels weird, right?
• 57:48
  Eric: That's like weird energy when we do it the other way.
• 57:50
  Eric: It's a it is never again.
• 57:51
  Eric: It feels wrong.
• 57:52
  Eric: Uh but we're just calling uh because we noticed uh you haven't had a guest in like a like a like a minute.
• 58:00
  Matt: Quite some time.
• 58:01
  Eric: And I know you guys have been busy with like the I don't know what's happening over in your offices, but like they're it is just it's crazy out there.
• 58:09
  Matt: I'm watching through the windows, the you're like there's elevators and the the size of the buildings just doesn't make sense.
• 58:18
  Matt: No, it's like an MC Esher painting in there.
• 58:20
  Eric: Anyway, look, we know this is super, you know, this might be super unorthodox, but we would be remiss if we didn't recommend someone to you to have as a guest on your show.
• 58:33
  Matt: Yeah.
• 58:33
  Matt: And so the person that's jumping to mind is a fellow by the name of Holy Mole.
• 58:39
  Matt: Uh might have heard of him.
• 58:41
  Matt: You might have heard of him, uh, host of the Strange Mole Show.
• 58:46
  Matt: Uh it's it's a rollick in good time about British politics and stuff.
• 58:50
  Matt: You know, all the stuff you guys love to talk about.
• 58:53
  Matt: So really England.
• 58:55
  Matt: Politics.
• 58:56
  Matt: Rollics.
• 58:56
  Matt: So, like, yeah, you could look forward to a lot a lot more of this sort of thing, you know.
• 59:02
  Matt: You get to do that British accent, you love to do so poorly.
• 59:06
  Matt: Little bit of discrimination now, innit?
• 59:08
  Matt: It's a little bit discrimination, isn't it?
• 59:10
  Eric: Brit discrimination, innit?
• 59:12
  Matt: And you you boys always have fun with that.
• 59:16
  Eric: Matt, both arms in the air.
• 59:17
  Eric: Both arms in the air.
• 59:18
  Eric: Both arms okay, he's good.
• 59:19
  Eric: He's good.
• 59:20
  Eric: So sorry, I was just making sure you weren't having a stroke.
• 59:22
  Eric: Um so all right, please.
• 59:27
  Matt: It's fantastic.
• 59:28
  Eric: Uh but yeah, guys, like I we feel like the man's resume speaks for itself, honestly.
• 59:33
  Eric: Speak for itself.
• 59:34
  Eric: Like, internationally known.
• 59:37
  Eric: This is objective.
• 59:38
  Eric: Like, you can't argue with this.
• 59:39
  Eric: He is known to people in Britain, he is known to people here, he is internationally recognized.
• 59:44
  Eric: You cannot leave that on the table.
• 59:46
  Matt: He's reviewed almost every episode of the show on Good Pods, which he binged like over three, four weeks.
• 59:54
  Matt: I mean, the man is dedicated.
• 59:56
  Matt: And left comments.
• 59:58
  Matt: You know he is Microsoft Office Suite capable.
• 1:00:02
  Matt: You're always asking people to leave reviews, to send us an email, and he did those things.
• 1:00:08
  Matt: And did it and he asked you to leave a review, which nobody else had the fucking gall to ask.
• 1:00:16
  Matt: The audacity.
• 1:00:18
  Matt: So, with that, we recommend that you extend a formal invitation to holy mole to come on to your program.
• 1:00:29
  Matt: You didn't ask for this.
• 1:00:31
  Matt: Eric, please.
• 1:00:32
  Eric: Matt, I'll do you one better.
• 1:00:33
  Eric: Not only do we recommend, fellas, sorry, we're gonna have to insist.
• 1:00:38
  Eric: We're gonna have to demand.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have to demand.
• 1:00:41
  Eric: Is it toxic masculinity if we do it to ourselves?
• 1:00:44
  Eric: Yee.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: Do it, you pieces of shit.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: You piece of shit.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: Do it, get it done.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, that was toxic.
• 1:00:52
  Matt: That was toxic.
• 1:00:53
  Matt: Eric, please, uh Eric, I know we're leaving a voicemail, but step into my office here real quick.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up?
• 1:01:00
  Matt: We gotta be better.
• 1:01:02
  Eric: Okay?
• 1:01:02
  Eric: We have gotta be better.
• 1:01:04
  Matt: We gotta work on ourselves.
• 1:01:05
  Eric: We gotta be better.
• 1:01:06
  Matt: Okay?
• 1:01:06
  Matt: This is we're gonna have to you and I are gonna have to do an escape room, okay?
• 1:01:10
  Matt: We're gonna have to do a motherfucking escape room.
• 1:01:12
  Matt: Eric, actually, I know I yeah, I yeah, I we gotta get back to the voicemail.
• 1:01:17
  Matt: We can't keep having these asides like this.
• 1:01:18
  Matt: So let's get back to the voicemail.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, okay, okay, okay.
• 1:01:20
  Matt: Step back to the thought line.
• 1:01:21
  Eric: Sorry.
• 1:01:22
  Eric: Oh, sorry.
• 1:01:22
  Eric: I gotta, if we could just dump into my office real quick, just real quick.
• 1:01:27
  Eric: Yeah, I just need a sip of water.
• 1:01:30
  Matt: That's it.
• 1:01:32
  Matt: Probably in the office for that.
• 1:01:33
  Matt: Oh man, I was so barged.
• 1:01:35
  Matt: Oh, you're gonna be.
• 1:01:36
  Matt: Do you want to do your office so I can watch you drink water?
• 1:01:38
  Eric: Hey, come on, man.
• 1:01:38
  Eric: We're the the the the the voicemail's about to end.
• 1:01:40
  Eric: We gotta go.
• 1:01:41
  Eric: Waste of fucking time.
• 1:01:42
  Eric: In conclusion.
• 1:01:43
  Matt: In conclusion, Matt and Eric.
• 1:01:45
  Matt: You gotta do it.
• 1:01:46
  Matt: Bring him on the show, goddammit.
• 1:01:47
  Matt: Bring it like give him give peace a chance.
• 1:01:51
  Matt: Give peace a chance.
• 1:01:53
  Matt: Give the holy mole a chance.
• 1:01:55
  Matt: Come on.
• 1:01:56
  Matt: And that's all that's that's all I care to say.
• 1:01:58
  Matt: I'm I'm hanging up the phone.
• 1:02:00
  Matt: Yeah, and you know what?
• 1:02:01
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:02
  Matt: In fact, yeah.
• 1:02:03
  Matt: If you don't bring him on the show, it's on you.
• 1:02:06
  Matt: You can go fuck.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_00: You can you can go fuck Matt.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_00: You can go fuck Eric.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: Hang up.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was good.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_00: I do bring it up.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: There we go.
• 1:02:14
  Matt: We so those are the sort of references that we have promised.
• 1:02:18
  Matt: Now, we didn't expect to have to do it to ourselves.
• 1:02:22
  Matt: So the offer still stands.
• 1:02:24
  Matt: We are happy to get you hired with a real job review that we will make up with whatever proficiencies you want.
• 1:02:30
  Matt: But holy mole, uh, I hope you take a listen to that.
• 1:02:33
  Matt: Take a listen to that.
• 1:02:34
  Eric: Give it a shot.
• 1:02:35
  Eric: We we will like all giggles and laughs aside.
• 1:02:39
  Eric: We'll do it right.
• 1:02:40
  Eric: Like we will, we will sound legit.
• 1:02:43
  Matt: Now, Eric, now that we've gone very introspective, we've spoken to ourselves in the second person, and now, Eric, I think we need to bring this podcast home with a closing segment, and dare I say, a fan favorite closing segment at that.
• 1:03:02
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 1:03:03
  Matt: It's time, folks.
• 1:03:05
  Matt: You've waited, you've wondered when it would happen, and it is the season two debut of Google Gripes.
• 1:03:18
  Matt: Go go go go go go gripes.
• 1:03:20
  Matt: Eric.
• 1:03:20
  Matt: Now, the first time round, I I threw the first stone, so to speak, but fair is fair as the let me check my notes here, reigning champion of Google Gripes.
• 1:03:35
  Matt: Yes.
• 1:03:35
  Matt: I'm gonna let you go first.
• 1:03:38
  Matt: Oh, thank you.
• 1:03:39
  Matt: Test me, Eric.
• 1:03:41
  Matt: All right, test me.
• 1:03:42
  Matt: Now, I should say, I should say, if you are new to the show, Google Gripes is a segment in which one of us recites some one-star Google reviews of well-known places.
• 1:03:56
  Matt: That's it.
• 1:03:57
  Matt: That's the that's all the the description you get.
• 1:04:00
  Matt: And uh then the other one tries to guess what it is.
• 1:04:03
  Matt: So, Eric, please take it away.
• 1:04:06
  Matt: All right.
• 1:04:07
  Eric: First location.
• 1:04:08
  Eric: And I kind of tried to put these in order of like what I personally considered easiest to hardest.
• 1:04:14
  Eric: Sure.
• 1:04:14
  Eric: So we're gonna start with the easiest.
• 1:04:16
  Eric: Alright, I'm I'm ready.
• 1:04:18
  Eric: Review number one.
• 1:04:19
  Eric: Poorly executed.
• 1:04:21
  Eric: It was a mishmash of artifacts put together almost randomly.
• 1:04:26
  Eric: The music playing throughout the exhibit, nice.
• 1:04:29
  Eric: All playing at the same time and over each other was grating.
• 1:04:35
  Eric: It was like watching those cranky women on the view try to talk over each other.
• 1:04:40
  Eric: What a mess.
• 1:04:42
  Eric: The blank is the most unblank thing I've experienced.
• 1:04:48
  Eric: Hard pass.
• 1:04:50
  Eric: Interesting.
• 1:04:51
  Eric: Also, boys, good example, toxic masculinity.
• 1:04:54
  Eric: Absolutely.
• 1:04:55
  Matt: Great textbook example.
• 1:04:56
  Matt: Write it down.
• 1:04:57
  Matt: Review number two.
• 1:04:59
  Eric: If you want to see blank's glove or blank's dress, this is the place for you.
• 1:05:06
  Eric: If you want to learn about the blank enshrined there, don't waste your time.
• 1:05:12
  Eric: During my visit while standing at the blank display, a patron asked me a question.
• 1:05:18
  Eric: As I answered, a group formed around me, and I spent the next 40 minutes answering questions about many of the blanks enshrined there.
• 1:05:26
  Eric: It occurred to me, I shouldn't be the blank historian, but there was nobody else present.
• 1:05:33
  Eric: We call that a humble brag.
• 1:05:35
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:05:36
  Matt: Interesting.
• 1:05:37
  Matt: Alright.
• 1:05:38
  Matt: Review number three.
• 1:05:40
  Matt: Uh-huh.
• 1:05:40
  Eric: I think I got a guess.
• 1:05:42
  Eric: Definitely not a kid-friendly experience.
• 1:05:45
  Eric: Between the various suggestive outfits uh slash pictures on display, the video loop of televisions poking fun at people of faith who spoke out against blank, and the overwhelming attitude of quotes said.
• 1:06:00
  Eric: Slash messages on display.
• 1:06:02
  Eric: This place highlights the carnal side of blank.
• 1:06:07
  Matt: Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:08
  Matt: Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:09
  Eric: And I've got bonus ones, but those will be after we Eric.
• 1:06:12
  Matt: I have my guess.
• 1:06:14
  Matt: What is your guess?
• 1:06:14
  Matt: I'm ready to go.
• 1:06:15
  Matt: All right.
• 1:06:16
  Matt: I'm ready to go.
• 1:06:16
  Matt: I feel good about it.
• 1:06:18
  Matt: All right.
• 1:06:18
  Matt: I wrote down a couple of options.
• 1:06:21
  Matt: Okay.
• 1:06:21
  Matt: And they were a couple museums along the way.
• 1:06:25
  Matt: But that's not what I'm actually going to go with.
• 1:06:27
  Matt: I and it is a museum element, but I think the name is important.
• 1:06:32
  Matt: Are we talking about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
• 1:06:37
  Matt: We are, Matthew.
• 1:06:38
  Matt: Yeah, buddy.
• 1:06:40
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:06:40
  Eric: There we go.
• 1:06:41
  Matt: Turn out strong.
• 1:06:42
  Matt: One for one.
• 1:06:44
  Matt: All right.
• 1:06:45
  Eric: What are your bonus reviews?
• 1:06:46
  Eric: Hell yes, my man.
• 1:06:47
  Eric: Oh, bonus reviews.
• 1:06:49
  Eric: Bonus review number one.
• 1:06:50
  Eric: Granted, rock and roll is about pushing it back against ourselves, society, and inhibitions, but it can also be about inspiration and changing the world for the better.
• 1:06:59
  Eric: Why not leave with that?
• 1:07:01
  Eric: That was the second part of that last review I did.
• 1:07:04
  Eric: I see.
• 1:07:04
  Eric: I see.
• 1:07:05
  Eric: Uh, and then second bonus one, this is my favorite.
• 1:07:07
  Eric: Without Ted Nugent, this place is nothing more than a baseball card store.
• 1:07:12
  Eric: Music ability isn't about politics, it's about talent, and there's nobody on this planet can deny Ted has the talent.
• 1:07:18
  Matt: I think there are a few who can quite a few.
• 1:07:23
  Matt: All right, Eric.
• 1:07:24
  Matt: Ooh, I'm coming out strong, baby.
• 1:07:26
  Eric: Ooh, you're doing good.
• 1:07:27
  Matt: You're coming out swinging.
• 1:07:29
  Matt: I thought you were gonna come for the king, but instead, you just threw up a layup.
• 1:07:34
  Matt: There's uh two more, Matt.
• 1:07:36
  Matt: Calm down.
• 1:07:36
  Eric: Uh second one.
• 1:07:39
  Eric: Review number one.
• 1:07:41
  Eric: All right.
• 1:07:42
  Eric: Do not bother with it.
• 1:07:43
  Eric: The Budweiser Bistro was the only place open for any food or drinks.
• 1:07:48
  Eric: Stood in line for an hour just to find out they had no cold beer or even seltzers.
• 1:07:53
  Eric: All the food was cold and disgusting.
• 1:07:56
  Eric: They had no kets up and no napkins, and there was at least eight hours left of blank.
• 1:08:02
  Eric: Horrible experience, put us in a bad mood along with the kids.
• 1:08:07
  Eric: Mmm.
• 1:08:07
  Eric: Review number two.
• 1:08:08
  Matt: That's a tough one.
• 1:08:10
  Eric: To the blank family and organization.
• 1:08:14
  Eric: You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
• 1:08:17
  Eric: Driving by blank, and the flags were not at half staff.
• 1:08:23
  Eric: This is how you observe the anniversary of 9-11?
• 1:08:26
  Eric: Very disrespectful.
• 1:08:28
  Eric: Shame on you.
• 1:08:30
  Eric: Oh geez.
• 1:08:31
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Eric: Feel like that's a specific day review.
• 1:08:35
  Eric: Review number three.
• 1:08:36
  Eric: Never was a fan, so not fun or interesting.
• 1:08:39
  Eric: I did happen to see hundreds of toothless fans with bad manners attempting to speak English loudly.
• 1:08:45
  Matt: Interesting.
• 1:08:47
  Matt: Interesting.
• 1:08:49
  Matt: Oh man.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:53
  Matt: I might have sp I might have spoken a little too soon on the on my previous celebratory um exclamations.
• 1:09:06
  Matt: Regretting that a little bit.
• 1:09:08
  Matt: That's got an Excel sheet for these chickens.
• 1:09:10
  Matt: They ain't even hatched yet.
• 1:09:11
  Matt: Ah, god damn.
• 1:09:13
  Matt: I I I do feel a little bit clueless, I have to say, as to what this is.
• 1:09:23
  Matt: I think I have a couple things written down, but the I don't really know a well-known place that goes along with them.
• 1:09:33
  Matt: So the the best I I am coming up with is like uh the the Anheuser-Busch factory?
• 1:09:44
  Eric: No, Matt.
• 1:09:45
  Eric: No, no, I know none other than the Daytona International Raceway.
• 1:09:52
  Matt: Of course, of course it is, and of course that didn't come to mind.
• 1:09:58
  Matt: Wow.
• 1:09:58
  Matt: Wow.
• 1:09:59
  Eric: Fucking fucking bonus review for this.
• 1:10:02
  Eric: Rednecks Unite.
• 1:10:03
  Eric: Richest people in America are the greediest.
• 1:10:06
  Eric: They rent the land for one dollar per year and pay no taxes on it.
• 1:10:10
  Matt: Oh man.
• 1:10:11
  Matt: I was too I was too in the museum mindset, I think.
• 1:10:15
  Eric: Oh, I'm going all over.
• 1:10:16
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:10:16
  Matt: All right, Eric.
• 1:10:17
  Matt: I I am 630.
• 1:10:18
  Matt: You successfully humbled me.
• 1:10:21
  Matt: I'm one for one.
• 1:10:22
  Matt: I mean one for two.
• 1:10:23
  Eric: So this one, this one is admittedly, I made this one the hardest.
• 1:10:26
  Eric: Um that this is the hardest.
• 1:10:28
  Eric: All right.
• 1:10:29
  Eric: And but Matt, I can this is I I it I'll say it's the hardest.
• 1:10:34
  Eric: It's still gonna be the hardest.
• 1:10:35
  Eric: I'm I'm gonna put a qualifier on this because I think it necessitates it.
• 1:10:40
  Eric: Okay.
• 1:10:41
  Eric: You 100% know this place.
• 1:10:46
  Matt: Okay, that really turns up the embarrassment if I get it wrong.
• 1:10:50
  Eric: That said, I made it a bit hard, but Matt, you goddamn you know this place.
• 1:10:55
  Eric: Noted.
• 1:10:56
  Eric: You're coming for the jugular.
• 1:10:58
  Eric: I got it.
• 1:10:59
  Eric: Review number one.
• 1:11:01
  Eric: Went here a few years ago, and I randomly remembered this morning how terrible the parking was here.
• 1:11:06
  Eric: Review number two.
• 1:11:08
  Eric: Oh, that's it?
• 1:11:09
  Eric: Oh yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Eric: You you fucker.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:11:14
  Matt: Review number two.
• 1:11:16
  Matt: Well, you continue, but just let me say.
• 1:11:19
  Matt: Noted.
• 1:11:20
  Matt: Noted.
• 1:11:21
  Eric: Oh yeah.
• 1:11:21
  Eric: Oh, oh yeah.
• 1:11:22
  Eric: Gloves are off this time around, but I'm coming out.
• 1:11:25
  Eric: I got popped in the streets.
• 1:11:26
  Matt: This is how season two is gonna go.
• 1:11:28
  Matt: This is how season okay, the parking lot sucks.
• 1:11:31
  Matt: Got it.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_00: God, I love this.
• 1:11:37
  Eric: Review number two.
• 1:11:39
  Eric: Went on a tour and they made everything seem amazing here.
• 1:11:44
  Eric: Wrong.
• 1:11:45
  Eric: Review number three.
• 1:11:46
  Eric: All right.
• 1:11:47
  Eric: Mm-hmm.
• 1:11:49
  Eric: Getting too woke for me.
• 1:11:52
  Eric: Those are your reviews.
• 1:11:54
  Eric: Eric.
• 1:11:55
  unknown: Eric.
• 1:11:57
  Eric: Eric, let me.
• 1:11:58
  Eric: And the the most satisfying thing that is if you don't get it right, I'm gonna tell it to you, and you're gonna get so because God, I just, oh, oh, these are one of these was a very big hint to you.
• 1:12:12
  Matt: Really?
• 1:12:14
  Matt: Okay, so I think when you're saying you left a big hint, you're talking about that amazing thing.
• 1:12:22
  Eric: That's what I think.
• 1:12:23
  Eric: There's no wordplay happening on the word amazing, but your big hint is in that you're I'm not gonna stop talking because I feel like I'm gonna confuse you more.
• 1:12:31
  Matt: But yeah.
• 1:12:32
  Matt: Okay, well, that's what I was thinking you were alluding to was that the amazing was like a big hint.
• 1:12:38
  Matt: Yeah, that they the tour that they made it seem.
• 1:12:42
  Eric: That's your big hint.
• 1:12:44
  Matt: Oh, that is changing my mind.
• 1:12:47
  Matt: Okay, Eric.
• 1:12:49
  Matt: I I have two ideas.
• 1:12:51
  Matt: I thought I knew what I was gonna say, uh-huh.
• 1:12:54
  Matt: But now you have you've layered it in just enough that I think I know what you're trying to do.
• 1:13:05
  Matt: So, uh, I could be wrong.
• 1:13:07
  Matt: I think I'm gonna change my answer right at the very last minute.
• 1:13:10
  Matt: Okay.
• 1:13:11
  Matt: I don't necessarily know that this qualifies as a well-known place in the grand scheme of things.
• 1:13:18
  Matt: Say it.
• 1:13:19
  Matt: In the grand scheme of things, but to you and I might are you talking about Towson University?
• 1:13:28
  Matt: I am, baby! You son of a bitch!
• 1:13:33
  Eric: How fucking how fucking clever was that though, the tour one?
• 1:13:39
  Matt: For everyone's benefit, I was a tour guide at one of the best tour guides Towson ever had.
• 1:13:45
  Matt: God damn fucking right I was, but um man, I was I was about to say something else.
• 1:13:51
  Matt: I'm not gonna say that because it could be something I deploy in your direction.
• 1:13:57
  Matt: But Eric, that was very clever.
• 1:13:59
  Matt: There's very good.
• 1:14:00
  Matt: To be honest, if you didn't, if you didn't give me that little thing about the amazing, I had to, because I'm looking at it now, I'm like, man, this is hard, this is walk.
• 1:14:13
  Matt: I was gonna say, I was like, I don't know what's in here that's supposed to be what I can latch on to.
• 1:14:21
  Matt: So, but hey shitty parking, tours, and getting too woke.
• 1:14:26
  Matt: You have you have turned up the heat on season two, and I suppose, sure, it's not as it's not as well known as the Golden Gate Bridge and other locations we've done and people have done for us, but it is still a notable institution.
• 1:14:47
  Matt: Uh, so and of course to us.
• 1:14:50
  Matt: So that was tricky, and I will remember this.
• 1:14:55
  unknown: Oh yeah.
• 1:14:56
  Matt: But two out of three, though.
• 1:14:58
  Eric: Well done.
• 1:14:59
  Matt: Two out of three.
• 1:15:00
  Matt: Let me just say this the champs coming out swinging, Eric.
• 1:15:06
  Matt: I'm not letting up off the gas.
• 1:15:09
  Matt: Two out of three, one little stumble, one little stumble, but I came back.
• 1:15:14
  Matt: I got your hard one.
• 1:15:15
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 1:15:16
  Matt: Here we go.
• 1:15:17
  Matt: One little stumble at the Daytona racetrack.
• 1:15:20
  Matt: One little stumble at the Daytona racetrack.
• 1:15:22
  Matt: My brother probably would have gotten it, but I didn't so you, sir, next episode, you better buckle up because I will remember this sort of heat.
• 1:15:33
  Matt: But for the moment, everybody, that'll about do it for this 54th episode of You Didn't Ask For This.
• 1:15:41
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• 1:15:48
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• 1:16:14
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• 1:16:28
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• 1:16:32
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• 1:16:41
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• 1:16:42
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• 1:16:45
  Eric: Very much at that point where it doesn't matter what the fuck you say.
• 1:16:48
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• 1:16:50
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• 1:16:54
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• 1:16:57
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• 1:17:02
  Matt: But until that time, Eric, I think it's time we sign off.
• 1:17:06
  Matt: So, for all of us here, uh, you didn't ask for this.
• 1:17:10
  Matt: And that's uh that's includes Sarah and our cloud of men over here.
• 1:17:15
  Matt: Yeah, and of course, I am Matt Shay.
• 1:17:19
  Eric: I am Eric Poach.
• 1:17:21
  Eric: And listen, you didn't ask.
• 1:17:24
  Eric: But unless you're pulling me into the office to show me a dank meme that you don't want anyone else to see, can we agree that like pulling the oh, can you come into my office, please, is a super annoying fucking toxic move.
• 1:17:36
  Matt: It's such a it's like a weird power move.
• 1:17:40
  Eric: It is the weirdest power move that is that does not accomplish what they think it does.
• 1:17:45
  Matt: It really doesn't.
• 1:17:46
  Matt: And it shows you in a pretty like weird light.
• 1:17:49
  Matt: And you should just knock it off.
• 1:17:51
  Eric: But but Matt, can I say that?
• 1:17:52
  Matt: Before we finish, Eric, can you can actually before I come in there?
• 1:17:55
  Matt: Could you come into Miles?
• 1:17:56
  Eric: Oh, Matt, I'm sorry, I asked you first.
• 1:17:58
  Eric: Just for a second, though, Eric, I think we could do what I was.
• 1:18:03
  Matt: You heard me teeing up.
• 1:18:05
  Matt: Okay.
• 1:18:05
  Matt: So agree to disagree, okay.
• 1:18:08
  Matt: Actually, I think this foyer is part of my office.
• 1:18:11
  Matt: Oh,