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The Rita Panahi Show | 11 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scorns Australia.
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Speaker 2: This is the winder Panety Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. I'm
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Speaker 3: Daniki di Giorgio coming up tonight. Shocking anti Israel protests
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Speaker 3: erupt in Melbourne. Daniel Wilde would join us to discuss
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Speaker 3: the crazy scenes.
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Speaker 4: The WA Parliament has.
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Speaker 3: Passed an urgency motion which will allow anyone, including children,
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Speaker 3: to change their legal sex and allow men to access
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Speaker 3: female only spaces. Stephanie Bastian joins us shortly. Will dive
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Speaker 3: into all the best moments of the Trump Harris presidential
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Speaker 3: debate with Army Horowitz, including this hilarious moment.
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Speaker 5: Everything that she believed three years ago and four years
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Speaker 5: ago is out the window. She's going to make philosophy now.
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Speaker 5: In fact, I was going to send her a maga.
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Speaker 3: Hat Uk labor sparks outrage over their controversial funding cuts
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Speaker 3: that could lead the elderly without heating during winter grimes
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Speaker 3: on that later in the hour and of course left
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Speaker 3: he's a losing it, including more white dudes for Karmela.
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Speaker 4: There lunacy nos no bounds.
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Speaker 6: Look, I'm going to vote for Kamala Harris. She could
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Speaker 6: run over a child live on TV. I'm going to
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Speaker 6: vote for Kamala Harris. I'm never going to vote for Trump.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Deputy executive director of the Institute
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Speaker 3: of Public Affairs, Daniel Wilde. Daniel, thank you very much
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Speaker 3: for joining us. Let's start with the out of control
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Speaker 3: lunacy that unfolded on the streets of Melbourne today when
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Speaker 3: anti war and anti Israel idiot activists clashed with police.
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Speaker 3: Here's a look, Daniel, this is absolutely disgraceful. The protesters
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Speaker 3: threw paint, they threw horsepoo at the cops, they threw
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Speaker 3: a manure at the horses. They were totally out of control.
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Speaker 3: What do they seriously think they are going to achieve here?
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Speaker 1: Well, it's a good question, Denika. There's a couple of things.
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Speaker 7: I mean, everybody has a right to protest, and everyone
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Speaker 7: has the right to freedom of speech.
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Speaker 1: That's fundamental to.
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Speaker 7: Our way of life, whether you agree or disagree with
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Speaker 7: the particulars of what these people are talking about. But
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Speaker 7: at the same time, the community also has the right
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Speaker 7: to attend events peacefully, and clearly that was not the
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Speaker 7: intent of these protesters, many of whom were, as you've
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Speaker 7: pointed out, engaging in violent acts and seeking to intimidate
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Speaker 7: those who were attending this very important function held in Melbourne.
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Speaker 7: The police in Victoria were given special powers with which
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Speaker 7: to deal with these protesters, and it's important that those
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Speaker 7: powers are used in a balanced way, not overdone. It
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Speaker 7: looks like the police have done the right thing on
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Speaker 7: this occasion. The other point that I'd make is I've
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Speaker 7: seen some people criticizing the police for brutality, but where
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Speaker 7: were these people during the COVID lockdowns, where police at
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Speaker 7: the time I were dealing in a very brutal way
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Speaker 7: with protesters who were saying who had a different opinion
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Speaker 7: to what the government had at the time. So I
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Speaker 7: think the point here is one to have equal policing
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Speaker 7: and an equal set of rules applied to everybody. And
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Speaker 7: I think on this occasion the police look to have
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Speaker 7: got it right, at least based on what I've seen
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Speaker 7: so far.
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Speaker 3: Oh look, absolutely, I mean the scenes we saw today
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Speaker 3: certainly warranted it, and I do agree with you. You know,
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Speaker 3: you have a right to protest in this country, but
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Speaker 3: it clearly was not peaceful today. There Now, youth crime
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Speaker 3: is out of control across the country, but you figures
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Speaker 3: released today by the Crime Statistics Agency reveal just how
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Speaker 3: frightening the situation is. In Victoria, teen criminals are breaking
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Speaker 3: into ten times more homes than when Labour came to power,
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Speaker 3: and the number of residential aggravated burglaries a committed by
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Speaker 3: offenders age ten to seventeen has almost surged one thousand
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Speaker 3: percent in the last financial year. Daniel, it means that
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Speaker 3: teens are now breaking into a home on average three
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Speaker 3: times a day. That's shocking. How has it gotten this point, Well.
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Speaker 7: It's gone to this point because of illediate justice system.
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Speaker 7: When it comes to violent crime. You know, we know
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Speaker 7: that those who commit violent crime need to be dealt
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Speaker 7: with immediately.
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Speaker 1: There needs to be immediate.
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Speaker 7: Consequences for these actions. State governments haven't helped because in
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Speaker 7: the main they have been advocating for raising the age
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Speaker 7: of criminal responsibility and the effect of that is to
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Speaker 7: encourage gain behavior where adults end up getting children to
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Speaker 7: commit crimes starting that the children can get off scot free.
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Speaker 1: So it's a very bad system.
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Speaker 7: One of the issues with our criminal justice system more
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Speaker 7: broadly is there's been too much of a focus on
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Speaker 7: nonviolent criminals and not enough focus on violent criminals. Those
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Speaker 7: who commit violent crimes and our threat to the community
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Speaker 7: need to be dealt with in a swift fashion and
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Speaker 7: that just hasn't been happening.
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Speaker 3: No, and it hasn't been happening around the country. It's
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Speaker 3: been absolutely shocking and no wonder a number of residents
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Speaker 3: are terrified. Look, let's now talk about Big Australia. The
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Speaker 3: Bureau of Statistics has confirmed that Australians are now getting
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Speaker 3: poorer faster, due in large part to the record rate
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Speaker 3: of migration we've seen, particularly since Labor came into power. Now, Daniel,
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Speaker 3: the IPA has researched this extensively.
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Speaker 1: What have you found, Well, thanks, Anika.
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Speaker 7: What we've found is that we are experiencing the largest
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Speaker 7: search to our population in our nation's history, and that
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Speaker 7: it hasn't been planned for and as a result, Australians
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Speaker 7: are getting poorer. As you rightly say, there's been six
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Speaker 7: consecutive quarters of negative per capita economic growth, which is
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Speaker 7: the longest declient to living standards on record, and those
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Speaker 7: records go back to the early nineteen seventies. So this
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Speaker 7: economy is worse than the economy that Whitlam presided over.
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Speaker 1: For the living standards of mainstream Australians.
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Speaker 7: And the reason this is happening is there's been no
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Speaker 7: planning in place and we've got immense pressure on our
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Speaker 7: social services, our schools, our roads, our hospitals and of
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Speaker 7: course our housing. We know that there is an acute
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Speaker 7: housing shortage and rental affordability has plummeted along with it.
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Speaker 7: So look, as a nation, we want to be a
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Speaker 7: welcoming nation. We want to be a tolerant nation, and
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Speaker 7: who can blame migrants for wanting to come to our
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Speaker 7: great country for a better future and a better way
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Speaker 7: of life. But the current size of the program is
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Speaker 7: simply too big for our nation to absorb. And that's
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Speaker 7: why a large and growing majority of Australians are saying
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Speaker 7: to the government this intake must be reduced, and it
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Speaker 7: must be reduced fast.
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Speaker 3: Look absolutely, because in the end, nobody ever voted for
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Speaker 3: a big Australia, yet here we are, and it's putting
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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on those particularly wanting to get
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Speaker 3: into the housing market or the rental crisis. So no
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Speaker 3: really good observation there. Let's talk about this gold mine saga.
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Speaker 3: It gets murkier and murkier For Tanya Plipisec of course,
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Speaker 3: she blocked that gold mine in New South Wales for
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Speaker 3: Aboriginal cultural heritage reasons.
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Speaker 4: Yet I can't provide the evidence.
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Speaker 3: To support the decision because of Aboriginal cultural heritage reasons.
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Speaker 3: Now questions have been raised over a newspaper article from
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Speaker 3: nineteen twelve which informed the establishment of an indigenous burial
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Speaker 3: site within the area of that proposed gold mine. Now
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Speaker 3: Daniel experts are warning not to take that newspaper article
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Speaker 3: at face value. There is no evidence to support it,
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Speaker 3: they say, So it just gets more and more embarrassing
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Speaker 3: for the minister.
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Speaker 7: Well it does, and ever since day one, Tanya Plibasek
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Speaker 7: has not been upfront with the Australian people for her
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Speaker 7: extraordinary decision to not allow this gold mine to go ahead.
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Speaker 7: As the days go by, it's increasingly apparent that the
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Speaker 7: can of bureaucracy is at war with Australia's resources sector.
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Speaker 7: This gold mine is just the latest example. But any
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Speaker 7: major project that's trying to get up these days is
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Speaker 7: either going to be disrupted by partially government funded green
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Speaker 7: activists like the Environmental Defender's Office, or they're going to
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Speaker 7: experience tremendous delays in the approvals process. Which is designed
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Speaker 7: to grind them to a halt because they know if
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Speaker 7: they hold these projects up for long enough, the economy
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Speaker 7: will turn against the business case and ultimately these projects
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Speaker 7: won't go ahead. There's also a sovereign risk where if
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Speaker 7: you're an investor, and you could be investing in a
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Speaker 7: lot of countries around the world when it comes to
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Speaker 7: resources sector projects, you look at these issues and you say, well,
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Speaker 7: I might avoid Australia because there's this risk to which
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Speaker 7: at a premium is attached on your investment. So you
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Speaker 7: know there's very wide ranging economic and social implications of this.
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Speaker 7: And as you say, the Environment Minister, she hasn't been
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Speaker 7: transparent at all with the Australian people and there's been
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Speaker 7: conflicting information.
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Speaker 1: It's time for her to tell us the truth.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically says to investors and business that we're closed.
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Speaker 3: We're closed. We're not open. We absolutely closed your spot on. Now,
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Speaker 3: a new report has found in order to meet its
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Speaker 3: ambitious five year housing target, the New South Wales government
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Speaker 3: needs to reprioritize and put major projects like the Metro,
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Speaker 3: schools and hospitals on hold. Daniel. The housing crisis, of course,
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Speaker 3: is not just conducive to New South Wales. It's everywhere,
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Speaker 3: but this certainly is a very ominous warning.
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Speaker 1: It is a concerning warning.
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Speaker 7: We were just talking about migration and the pressure that
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Speaker 7: that's placing on demand and this is one of the
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Speaker 7: consequences that there's only so much money and ultimately governments
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Speaker 7: have to choose what it is that they're going to finance.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 7: I know the Premiere Chris Minz has rejected this suggestion
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Speaker 7: and said they're going to go ahead with all of
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Speaker 7: the projects that's currently slated. But to take a broader
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Speaker 7: view of this, we've got a dysfunctional federation because the
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Speaker 7: federal government is in charge of the migration intake, which
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Speaker 7: is increasing demand, but state governments are in charge of
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Speaker 7: the supply site in terms of houses and schools and
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Speaker 7: roads and other social services. I don't know what National
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Speaker 7: Cabinet is doing if they're not talking about this. The
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Speaker 7: left hand's not talking to the right hand, and Australias
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Speaker 7: look at and they don't understand why we have this problem.
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Speaker 7: If you're going to bring in x many migrants, then
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Speaker 7: you're going to have to have x many houses.
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Speaker 1: It's very simple.
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Speaker 7: So there's clearly been a failure of foresight and coordination
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Speaker 7: between labor governments. I mean it's not as if there's
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Speaker 7: a political device. It's wall to all labor other than
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Speaker 7: in the Northern Territory in Tasmania. So I think Australians
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Speaker 7: look at this and they just can't understand why we
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Speaker 7: have these infrastructure problems.
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Speaker 3: No, it makes sense. Now look before we let you go,
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Speaker 3: this is fun. A private crew has set out on
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Speaker 3: an orbital expedition as they prepare for the first ever
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Speaker 3: space walk by non professional astronauts. Daniel, this will be
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Speaker 3: quite a feat. If successful, it'll be the first ever
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Speaker 3: spacewalk by civilians.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's very exciting.
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Speaker 7: I think this shows the power of vision, and of
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Speaker 7: entrepreneurship and of ambition. So I think this has the
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Speaker 7: capacity to bring a lot of people together with excitement.
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Speaker 1: We're pretty divided a lot of the time.
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Speaker 7: So I hope this is a success and I'm very
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Speaker 7: excited to see what might come of it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Fingers crossed, Daniel Wilde, thanks for joining us. Well,
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Speaker 3: this is very concerning. WA Parliament has used its numbers
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Speaker 3: to pass an urgency motion, effectively acting any scrutiny of
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Speaker 3: its self id bill. What does that mean? Well, it
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Speaker 3: means anyone will be able to change their legal sex,
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Speaker 3: including children, and permit men to access female only spaces,
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Speaker 3: sports and services. Joining me now is Stephanie Bastian from
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Speaker 3: Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie, good to see you, Thanks for
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Speaker 3: joining us. How dangerous is this?
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Speaker 4: What sort of a precedent is it setting?
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Speaker 8: Good evening, Danika. These laws are very concerning because, of
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Speaker 8: course it makes it easier for men in particular to
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Speaker 8: change their gender on their legal documents to access women
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Speaker 8: sports spaces and services. It also allows children to do
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Speaker 8: so as well. Now, obviously there are security issues, particularly
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Speaker 8: in terms of women and the privacy in there in
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Speaker 8: things like change rooms, domestic violence shelters and things like that.
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Speaker 3: But of course there are other concerns.
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Speaker 8: Such as the healthcare system which is a risk to
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Speaker 8: persons who identifies transgender as well where they may be
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Speaker 8: mis diagnosed or mistreated. So it's very concerning. The WA
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Speaker 8: government has rammed this through without consultation. Last month they
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Speaker 8: vetoed a parliamentary inquiry. It seems that they just don't
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Speaker 8: want to have this bill scrutinized. And of course when
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Speaker 8: these laws pass, it makes it a lot easier to
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Speaker 8: undo the damage that's done by them. It also sets
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Speaker 8: a legal precedent that we're seeing being weaponized around the
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Speaker 8: country that is in particular being used against women.
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Speaker 3: So there's a range of issues with this bill.
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Speaker 8: It's scremely shameful and I just hope that should there
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Speaker 8: be a change of government at the next election, the
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Speaker 8: Liberals undo this.
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Speaker 3: Look absolutely. And the other point to make is, Stephanie,
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Speaker 3: what does this mean for parents? Because if your child
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Speaker 3: says I'm going to change my gender, legally they're allowed to,
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Speaker 3: right Is that the case here?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, So the law allows miners to change their identity
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Speaker 8: on their legal documents, and the same issues applied, particularly
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Speaker 8: in terms of health. The parents have no say, they
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Speaker 8: can't get any support for their child if they are
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Speaker 8: going through things.
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Speaker 3: It's very concerning. Yeah, it is extremely concerning. Now I
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Speaker 3: want to go to this case in the UK because
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Speaker 3: a surrogate mother in London has one access to her
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Speaker 3: biological son in what is been touted as a landmark
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Speaker 3: case after her child's same sex parents claimed it was
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Speaker 3: homophobic for her to be involved in their motherless family
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Speaker 3: with quote no vacancy for a woman, Stephanie, she is
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Speaker 3: the genetic mother. How is that homophobic? It's not.
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Speaker 8: And one of the key point into this case is
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Speaker 8: at no point was the best interests.
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Speaker 3: Of the child prioritized.
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Speaker 8: It was all about the feelings and desires of these
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Speaker 8: two commissioning parents. At the end of the day, the
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Speaker 8: biological mother is is not dispensable. Her role is important,
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Speaker 8: and to remove that child from the mother creates a
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Speaker 8: primal womb that has lifelong ramifications, including trust issues, anxiety, depression.
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Speaker 8: There's a range of issues that are linked that are
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Speaker 8: just not acknowledged when it comes to surrogacy. And the
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Speaker 8: fact that they breached their agreement with her in order
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Speaker 8: to try and shut her out of that child's life
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Speaker 8: is just very concerning. But I'm so pleased that the
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Speaker 8: law upheld her right to be involved in child's that
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Speaker 8: child's life, and that the law saw fit to prioritize
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Speaker 8: the interests of the child over the wishes of the parents.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, a really really interesting case, but you are
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Speaker 3: spot on. I mean, it is her right as the
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Speaker 3: genetic mother. Now, look, we know that Victorian woman is
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Speaker 3: facing legal action for calling trans breastfeeding experimental and a
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Speaker 3: dangerous fetage fetish rather.
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Speaker 4: But now to add to.
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Speaker 3: This, the Royal Women's Hospital in Melbourne is including men
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Speaker 3: in its breastfeeding program. Stephanie, this just seems like complete lunacy.
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Speaker 3: What evidence is there to support that drug induced lactation
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Speaker 3: is indeed safe for infants.
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Speaker 8: There seems to be very little evidence, if any at all.
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Speaker 8: And it's not just the drugs that are being used
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Speaker 8: to induce the lactation, it's the plethora of hormones and
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Speaker 8: drugs these men are taking to present as women. I mean,
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Speaker 8: there's no safety data on this. Once again, the feelings
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Speaker 8: of men are being prioritized at the expense of the
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Speaker 8: safety and nutrition of the baby. It's wrong and it
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Speaker 8: just shows the fact that the Royal Women's Hospital doing
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Speaker 8: this just how far this gender ideology is entrenched in
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Speaker 8: our healthcare system.
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Speaker 3: It's an enormous breach of trust.
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Speaker 8: And I know, as a mother and as a woman,
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Speaker 8: I would be avoiding any health care system, any healthcare
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Speaker 8: service like the Women's like the Royal Children's that are
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Speaker 8: promoting these practices because there's no scientific basis. In fact,
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Speaker 8: the science out there is to the contrary a mother's
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Speaker 8: body is biological. The way that she produces milk is hormonal,
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Speaker 8: and it is designed to feed the baby into meat
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Speaker 8: its needs at the time a milk changes men.
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Speaker 3: Biological men can't.
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Speaker 8: Do that, and there's no evidence that even the liquid
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Speaker 8: that they do supply is able is enough to sustain
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Speaker 8: the infant in the first place. I think that this
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Speaker 8: is just further proof that we need an investigation into
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Speaker 8: all these practices and just how captured these healthcare systems are.
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Speaker 3: I absolutely agree with you there needs to be an
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Speaker 3: investigation because you know, it could potentially be very dang
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Speaker 3: juris for an infant, and we need to get those
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Speaker 3: facts pretty quickly. Stephanie Bastian, great to be with you,
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. Well still to come, Lefties Losing
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Speaker 3: It plus Donald Trump and Kamala Harris go head to
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Speaker 3: head during their presidential debate. Army Horowitz will join me
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Speaker 3: next to one. Pack it all. Now it is time
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Speaker 3: for Lefties Losing It. We will get to the presidential
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Speaker 3: debate lunacy in just a second, but first let's start
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Speaker 3: with the Swifties, or should I say the deranged and
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Speaker 3: demented sect of the Taylor swift Brigade who are losing
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Speaker 3: their minds over the singer being pictured with the wife
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Speaker 3: of an NFL player, Brittany Mahomes. Why did she kill someone?
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Speaker 3: Did she, I don't know, commit a crime? Did she
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Speaker 3: hurt someone? Oh no, no, no, it's because she don
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Speaker 3: you wait for it, liked then unliked an Instagram post
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Speaker 3: by Donald Trump? But how could she possibly unconfirmed but
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Speaker 3: maybe like Donald Trump? But maybe not? And how could
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Speaker 3: Taylor like this girl? Well? C the full blown lefty
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Speaker 3: meltdown of Trump derangement syndrome proportions.
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Speaker 9: Taylor Swift is even worse because she surrounds herself with
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Speaker 9: misogynistic Trump supporting people like she is supposed to be
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Speaker 9: the raw raw advocate for feminism, to be this like
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Speaker 9: icon in the pop space, when these are the people
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Speaker 9: that she associates herself with. Birds of a feather flock together.
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Speaker 3: Oh how dared Taylor Swift? She can't possibly be an
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Speaker 3: ally then, of the LGBTQ community if she associated with
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Speaker 3: someone who liked and unliked a Donald Trump Instagram post.
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Speaker 10: I have always felt that you need to Calm Down
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Speaker 10: is a performative LGBTQ song, And honestly, here is a
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Speaker 10: proof because if she was an ally, you know, an ally,
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Speaker 10: she would not be hanging around a Trump supporter.
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Speaker 4: That's just the very.
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Speaker 3: Plain and symbol.
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Speaker 5: Anybody who is not a straight white Swifty is.
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Speaker 3: Going to have some thoughts about this because Trump and
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Speaker 3: everyone who supports the hym are literally coming for our next,
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Speaker 3: particularly trans people and people of color, poor people like
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Speaker 3: the list goes on. No, she's definitely not an ally.
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Speaker 3: She must of course be a homophobe. Then can Taylor
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Speaker 3: Swifty friends of Brittany Mahomes.
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Speaker 9: Sure, but then we are going to have to speculate.
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Speaker 11: Okay, who do you allow in your life?
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Speaker 3: Are you going to allow homophobes?
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Speaker 5: Like?
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Speaker 3: And uh, we should speculate that you have no life.
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Speaker 3: And let's not forget these are the lefties who pride
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Speaker 3: themselves on so called tolerance and speaking of Trump derangement,
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Speaker 3: it really affects the brain in certain ways for the
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Speaker 3: white dudes of Kamala.
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Speaker 6: Cru Look, I'm going to vote for Kamala Harris. She
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Speaker 6: could run over a child live on TV. I'm going
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Speaker 6: to vote for Kamala Harris. I'm never going to vote
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Speaker 6: for Trump.
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Speaker 3: Okay, then that is truly normal, very saying that very
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Speaker 3: normal stuff, and in the same breath, that same lefty
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Speaker 3: diverts and takes us on a different journey.
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Speaker 6: But the fact is, even though I think she'll make
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Speaker 6: a good president, she's not a good candidate. If you
20:24
Speaker 6: remember from when she ran before, she tends to get
20:27
Speaker 6: real irritated with stuff she doesn't like. She's not real
20:30
Speaker 6: fast on her feet. Maybe she's better now, but live
20:33
Speaker 6: events things like that. I don't know, man, I don't
20:36
Speaker 6: think she's going to do so well in the debate.
20:37
Speaker 3: I can't keep up. I guess just your average Karmala voter.
20:41
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what happens when Democrats, as we do,
20:43
Speaker 3: forget their auto Q.
20:45
Speaker 4: One minute, it's one thing.
20:47
Speaker 3: Next you don't know where that thought bubble will lead to.
20:50
Speaker 3: It's an illness. And Karmala certainly has a unique supporter base.
20:56
Speaker 12: Do you oh, how interesting?
20:59
Speaker 7: Come?
20:59
Speaker 12: Tell me right?
21:00
Speaker 5: So viz.
21:02
Speaker 2: Immediately I'm busy.
21:09
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder what will happen when she grows old
21:11
Speaker 3: with that one. And now to the Haitian migrant situation
21:15
Speaker 3: and claims of immigrants killing and eating pets and park
21:19
Speaker 3: animals in Ohio, and the Dems are in a meltdown
21:23
Speaker 3: over the pets for Trump explosion on social media AI
21:28
Speaker 3: images like this one protect our Ducks and Kittens in Ohio?
21:34
Speaker 3: And how about this one from Donald Trump Junior save
21:37
Speaker 3: our Pets? And I've got to say, the goods just
21:42
Speaker 3: keep on coming, aren't they just classic? Yet the poor
21:46
Speaker 3: old sad dems with no sense of humor who are
21:50
Speaker 3: devoid of joy, I'm not happy.
21:52
Speaker 12: What in the hell is this? The chairman tweets protect
21:57
Speaker 12: our ducks and kittens in a Ohio because he goes
22:01
Speaker 12: some down, goes down some crazy rabbit hole, completely debunked
22:06
Speaker 12: that aliens are eating pets. My god, are you okay,
22:14
Speaker 12: mister chairman? Because last year, for a very long time,
22:18
Speaker 12: you tweeted and promoted Kanye West as he was calling
22:23
Speaker 12: for genocide against the Jews, and you kept it up.
22:26
Speaker 12: And now when we have victims coming here, you're tweeting
22:30
Speaker 12: this nonsense. I don't know why you would do this.
22:34
Speaker 12: I hope you're okay.
22:36
Speaker 3: You gotta laugh. But all you can say is if
22:38
Speaker 3: you like your pets or your catsave it or your
22:41
Speaker 3: ducks like we've seen, particularly in the Ohio pond, well.
22:45
Speaker 4: There's only one choice come November.
22:48
Speaker 3: Joining me now is filmmaker and journalist Army Horowitz. Amy,
22:52
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. Let's start with
22:55
Speaker 3: the highlights of the presidential debate, including Trump's claim that
22:58
Speaker 3: migrants are rating hats and dogs in Springfield.
23:03
Speaker 5: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're
23:06
Speaker 5: eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of
23:11
Speaker 5: the people that live there.
23:13
Speaker 3: And then he nailed Kamala Harris the borders are challenging
23:17
Speaker 3: her on Live to TV to go to the White House,
23:20
Speaker 3: wake Joe Biden up and sign a bill to close
23:24
Speaker 3: the border down.
23:25
Speaker 5: Now do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime
23:29
Speaker 5: in countries all over the world is way down. You
23:32
Speaker 5: know why because they've taken their criminals off the street
23:35
Speaker 5: and they've given them to her to put into our country.
23:38
Speaker 5: I'd like to see her go down to Washington, DC
23:42
Speaker 5: during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time,
23:45
Speaker 5: sign a bill to close up the border, because they
23:47
Speaker 5: have the right to do it. The president of the
23:49
Speaker 5: United States. You'll get them out of bed. You'll wake
23:51
Speaker 5: them up at four o'clock in the afternoon. You'll say,
23:53
Speaker 5: come on, come on down to the office. Let's sign
23:55
Speaker 5: a bill.
23:57
Speaker 3: I mean, Kamala Harris has no legs to stand on
23:59
Speaker 3: when it comes to her border failures. Did Trump show
24:03
Speaker 3: her up today? What's your take?
24:06
Speaker 13: Yeah? I think that this.
24:09
Speaker 14: If I had a scorecard, I would say she had
24:12
Speaker 14: a slight edge overall on this, but it was pretty close.
24:15
Speaker 13: The problem is that she needed a knockout blow because
24:19
Speaker 13: we're trending.
24:20
Speaker 14: The polls are trending against her now that the sugar
24:23
Speaker 14: high of her replacing Biden is over and after the DNC,
24:28
Speaker 14: and she did not score that that knockout punch. Look,
24:30
Speaker 14: if you look at the New York Times poll that
24:32
Speaker 14: came out, this is very very bad news for her
24:36
Speaker 14: campaign and has her up one among lately voters, two
24:40
Speaker 14: among all voters. And as how we all know foles
24:44
Speaker 14: seem to under sample Trump voters. But if you look
24:49
Speaker 14: at the cross tabs, they're even worse for her.
24:52
Speaker 13: This is an election of change.
24:53
Speaker 14: People majority of people want change, and actually a clear
24:58
Speaker 14: majority view Trump as the agent of change more than
25:01
Speaker 14: Kamala Harris. And if they talked to the voters and said, hey,
25:07
Speaker 14: who do you think will do better on the particular
25:09
Speaker 14: issue that you care about the most about exemplifying or
25:12
Speaker 14: specifying particular issue. Again, Trump wins a clear majority over
25:17
Speaker 14: Kamala Harris, and he's up sixteen percent of her in
25:19
Speaker 14: the economy, which is the number one issue across voters.
25:22
Speaker 13: So she really needed a knockout blow. She didn't get it.
25:26
Speaker 14: Look, this is a typical Trump debate. He's the same
25:30
Speaker 14: tip debate he had before.
25:32
Speaker 13: It was kind of rambling.
25:34
Speaker 14: A little unfocused, but there's so much ammunition against Biden
25:39
Speaker 14: Harris that some of the stuff that he was shooting
25:41
Speaker 14: the gatling gun ended up hitting and sticking. The difference
25:45
Speaker 14: this time was that he didn't have an opponent who
25:48
Speaker 14: came on stage, poured gas lino over himself, let himself
25:51
Speaker 14: on fire.
25:52
Speaker 13: She didn't do that.
25:53
Speaker 14: In fact, he kind of put himself a little bit
25:55
Speaker 14: of a disadvantage by continuously talking about how dumb she is,
25:59
Speaker 14: how terrible she is, So people are expecting that. Usually
26:02
Speaker 14: you try to pump up the person you're about the debate.
26:05
Speaker 14: He didn't do that, did the opposite and did not
26:07
Speaker 14: serve him well. And in the first five minutes he
26:11
Speaker 14: had a chance for a real clean body blow. When
26:14
Speaker 14: she was asked, are you are are Americans better off now?
26:19
Speaker 14: They were four years ago. She did not answer the question,
26:22
Speaker 14: and when it came back to Trump, he should have
26:24
Speaker 14: pointed out she didn't answer the question because the answer
26:27
Speaker 14: is obviously no. He took a swing and a miss
26:31
Speaker 14: on that. I thought it was a huge opportunity missed.
26:33
Speaker 14: But again, he was also debating the moderators who who
26:37
Speaker 14: simply were clearly on her side. The biggest issue was
26:41
Speaker 14: they kept fact checking him in real time, but never
26:44
Speaker 14: fact check hers when she clearly exaggerated or out right
26:49
Speaker 14: live and I think that was a problem that all
26:51
Speaker 14: Republicans have when it comes to debates, and this particular
26:54
Speaker 14: one as well.
26:55
Speaker 3: Let's talk. I want to talk more about that, because
26:57
Speaker 3: it felt as though the moderators spent an enormous amount
27:01
Speaker 3: of time, as you said, fact checking Donald Trump, but
27:04
Speaker 3: not doing the same with Kamala Harris. Have a look
27:07
Speaker 3: at this.
27:08
Speaker 11: You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABCDS did reach out
27:12
Speaker 11: to the city manager there. He told us there had
27:14
Speaker 11: been no credible reports of President Trump. As you know,
27:17
Speaker 11: the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down
27:20
Speaker 11: in this country. But you have said quote you lost
27:22
Speaker 11: by a whisker that you quote didn't quite make it
27:25
Speaker 11: that you came up a little bit short. You did
27:26
Speaker 11: bring up something you said she went to negotiate with
27:28
Speaker 11: Vladimir Putin. Vice President Harris, have you ever met Vladimir Putin?
27:32
Speaker 3: How biased army was this debate by ABC News? In
27:35
Speaker 3: your view, it felt to me as though it was
27:38
Speaker 3: very much so three against one.
27:42
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was.
27:42
Speaker 12: It was not great.
27:43
Speaker 14: Look, it wasn't the most egregious of all of all
27:45
Speaker 14: the people I've seen moderate debates, But it wasn't good.
27:49
Speaker 14: And I think the single biggest issue in my view
27:52
Speaker 14: was the fact that they were fact checking him.
27:56
Speaker 13: And by the way, rightly.
27:57
Speaker 14: So I'm not saying that fact that the moderate should
28:00
Speaker 14: not fact check. I think they should. I think I
28:02
Speaker 14: don't like it when either side exaggerates or says lies.
28:05
Speaker 13: Both sides did it.
28:06
Speaker 14: There are a number of times are up screaming at
28:08
Speaker 14: the screen saying, guys, this is so obviously wrong. And
28:12
Speaker 14: by the way, one of the most one of the
28:13
Speaker 14: biggest ones the fact that she kept saying Trump abortion band,
28:17
Speaker 14: trump abortion ban. Wasn't he didn't, There's no Trump abortion
28:20
Speaker 14: band or the worst of all for me is Charleston.
28:22
Speaker 14: That's one of the biggest lies of all time that
28:24
Speaker 14: she continued this lie of he was referring to the
28:27
Speaker 14: neo Nazis as good people on both sides.
28:30
Speaker 13: I think go one and on and on, and I
28:31
Speaker 13: think that was the worst of it.
28:34
Speaker 3: But I'm going to say as well, ABC changed its
28:36
Speaker 3: tune midway through, allowing Kamla to also interrupt Trump, so
28:41
Speaker 3: it left him to roll out this comment.
28:45
Speaker 5: She was big on defund the police in Minnesota. She
28:48
Speaker 5: went out, I'm talking now, do you know mind?
28:51
Speaker 4: Please?
28:53
Speaker 5: Does that sound familiar?
28:55
Speaker 4: Now?
28:55
Speaker 3: Of course, that was a reference to when she debated
28:57
Speaker 3: Mike Pence in the VP debate and she said I
29:01
Speaker 3: am speaking when he interrupted her.
29:04
Speaker 15: Mister Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking, Yes, a vice president,
29:09
Speaker 15: I'm speaking. I'm speaking. Okay, if you don't mind letting
29:13
Speaker 15: me finish, we can then have a conversation.
29:16
Speaker 3: Okay, please, okay.
29:18
Speaker 14: Yes, uh, Kamala Harris, I'm a victim here, I'm a woman.
29:21
Speaker 13: Hear me a roar. I'm a victim. Look. I didn't
29:24
Speaker 13: like it when she did it. It didn't. It didn't.
29:26
Speaker 14: It doesn't come across as good. And I think when
29:29
Speaker 14: Trump did it also doesn't come across as as as good.
29:32
Speaker 14: I don't think I think either one. She's kind of
29:34
Speaker 14: let it go. It was odd that her micro was on,
29:37
Speaker 14: but yeah, I don't think it helps anybody when they
29:39
Speaker 14: kind of play that role saying, oh, please let me speak,
29:42
Speaker 14: let me speak. I don't, I said, don't play well
29:43
Speaker 14: on TV.
29:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked fair enough.
29:46
Speaker 3: And there was also a funny moment where Donald Trump
29:49
Speaker 3: said this because as we know, Kamala has been not
29:52
Speaker 3: copying some of his policies, the ways of doing things.
29:56
Speaker 5: Everything that she believed three years ago and four years
30:00
Speaker 5: years ago is out the window. She's going to my
30:02
Speaker 5: philosophy now. In fact, I was going to send her
30:04
Speaker 5: a Maga hat. She's gone to my philosophy. But if
30:07
Speaker 5: she ever got elected, she changed it and it will
30:11
Speaker 5: be the end of our country.
30:13
Speaker 3: I thought that was hilarious. I'd like to see Kamlay
30:15
Speaker 3: in a Maga hat. But we know that she's really
30:18
Speaker 3: struggled to articulate her own policies or lack thereof. Did
30:22
Speaker 3: she explain her policies at all better in this debate?
30:27
Speaker 14: No, no, not at all. I watched the debate twice.
30:31
Speaker 14: It's by the way, I recommend nobody do. And in
30:35
Speaker 14: the second time through for a time of life. Second time,
30:37
Speaker 14: I was going through it and I was looking for
30:40
Speaker 14: where the policies might be.
30:42
Speaker 13: Didn't see them.
30:43
Speaker 14: Look, I mean, she did actually populate her website with
30:47
Speaker 14: a few paragraphs of policy, but as we as was
30:50
Speaker 14: actually kind of proven, she just cut and literally cut
30:55
Speaker 14: and paste Biden's policies onto her policy page.
30:59
Speaker 13: So I guess we really want to her policies.
31:01
Speaker 14: You just have to look at the last four years
31:04
Speaker 14: of the Biden Harris presidency and I think you'll get
31:07
Speaker 14: a sense of what her policies are. But I think, look,
31:09
Speaker 14: the truth is, actually she will be more radical. One
31:12
Speaker 14: thing Trump said that was right was yes, she did
31:16
Speaker 14: change her tune on fracking, but she never said when she.
31:20
Speaker 13: Said I changed in twenty twenty, what.
31:22
Speaker 14: She was referring to is she was essentially vocalizing the
31:26
Speaker 14: policy of her boss, the eventual president, Joe Biden.
31:30
Speaker 13: She never said I believe this. She kept referring to.
31:33
Speaker 14: What Joe Biden wanted to do, and in fact he
31:36
Speaker 14: did do. And I think Trump was right when he said,
31:39
Speaker 14: if she becomes president in Pennsylvania this debate was happening,
31:43
Speaker 14: she will attempt to ban fracking day one.
31:45
Speaker 13: I don't have any question about it.
31:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was yo yoing on that one, and you're right,
31:50
Speaker 3: she likes to copy and paste things too.
31:53
Speaker 4: Now, Donald Trump asked.
31:55
Speaker 3: A key question that really has been on everyone's mind.
31:59
Speaker 3: Where on earth is the president?
32:02
Speaker 5: We're playing with World War three and we have a
32:04
Speaker 5: president that we don't even know if he's Where is
32:07
Speaker 5: our president? We don't even know if he's a president.
32:09
Speaker 5: And just a clarity, he threw him out of a
32:11
Speaker 5: campaign like a dog.
32:12
Speaker 13: We don't even know is he a president?
32:15
Speaker 3: I mean, there were reports this week that Joe Biden
32:18
Speaker 3: has been on holiday for forty percent of his presidency,
32:20
Speaker 3: and Trump really did ask a legitimate question there Where
32:24
Speaker 3: on earth is the president?
32:27
Speaker 13: I don't know.
32:28
Speaker 14: It depends where doctor Joe Biden is. Where doctor Joe
32:31
Speaker 14: Biden is, That's where the president is. Look, it's it's
32:36
Speaker 14: it's so interesting that they kept talking about how they
32:40
Speaker 14: had to replace him as president as the nominee because
32:43
Speaker 14: he clearly wasn't competent to be the nominee. The next
32:47
Speaker 14: question needs to be, well, was he competent to be president?
32:49
Speaker 13: Because if you.
32:51
Speaker 14: Can't run, I'm not sure you can actually it's actually
32:53
Speaker 14: more taxing and more difficult, and frankly more important to
32:56
Speaker 14: run the country than to run for the guy running
32:59
Speaker 14: the country. So I think that brings up more questions
33:02
Speaker 14: than an answer is when you replace him as the nominee.
33:05
Speaker 14: And I don't think he answers them when he's falling
33:08
Speaker 14: asleep on the beach in Delaware.
33:11
Speaker 3: No, clearly not. He is clocked off in Delaware and
33:15
Speaker 3: not running America. Look, let's move on, army, because I
33:19
Speaker 3: want to get your response to the CNN anchor Aaron
33:22
Speaker 3: Burnett appears to have marveled at some of the far
33:25
Speaker 3: left policy positions that Kamala Harris had when she was
33:29
Speaker 3: a presidential candidate back in twenty nineteen, including taxpayer funded
33:34
Speaker 3: gender transition surgeries for detained a legal migrants. Have a listen.
33:39
Speaker 2: Let's take immigration and look at what she said here.
33:42
Speaker 2: She said on immigration, she made this open ended pledge
33:45
Speaker 2: to end immigrant attention. She said she supported taxpayer funded
33:50
Speaker 2: gender transition surgeries for deteined migrants.
33:52
Speaker 7: She also said she.
33:53
Speaker 16: Taxpayer funded gender transition surgeries for detainment.
33:57
Speaker 3: He actually said she supported.
33:58
Speaker 2: She wrote, both wrote and answered in the affirmative when
34:02
Speaker 2: she was asked this, and she said she also supported
34:05
Speaker 2: it for federal prisoners. Now, she also pledged to slash
34:08
Speaker 2: immigration detention by fifty percent, close all family and private facilities,
34:13
Speaker 2: and decrease funding for ICE and then the end and
34:17
Speaker 2: ICE detainers with local law enforcement.
34:20
Speaker 16: I mean, these are these are things that you know,
34:22
Speaker 16: it would be hard to think that you would come
34:24
Speaker 16: up with taxpayer funding gender transitions for for detained migrants.
34:28
Speaker 16: And yet this, as you say, written and verbally.
34:31
Speaker 4: Army, it sounds like this CNN.
34:33
Speaker 3: Host is surprised by the evidence that's right in front
34:37
Speaker 3: of her.
34:39
Speaker 13: Oh that was so delicious to watch. I got.
34:41
Speaker 14: I gotta say, Look, Andrew Kazinski is actually, you know,
34:45
Speaker 14: a pretty good reporter, and I think he does hold
34:49
Speaker 14: people to account on both sides. So I'm glad they
34:52
Speaker 14: had him on to talk about this issue. I think
34:54
Speaker 14: it highlights a couple points. First of all, that their
34:58
Speaker 14: CNN and the mainstream he is so used to carrying
35:02
Speaker 14: the Democrats water that then where they're confronted with a
35:07
Speaker 14: data point from their own people, they are genuinely shocked.
35:10
Speaker 14: I think they really do believe their their their their bs.
35:15
Speaker 14: And I think what's what's interesting is. It does high
35:17
Speaker 14: and by the way, you know, later on on that
35:19
Speaker 14: in that interview they talked about they held her to
35:22
Speaker 14: account that she was that that Kamala Harris was taking
35:25
Speaker 14: a you know, photos and videos of her in front
35:27
Speaker 14: of the wall that Donald Trump built. I think that
35:30
Speaker 14: was interesting as well. That was a little bit shocking,
35:33
Speaker 14: but it highlights the point, which is that's look, outside
35:37
Speaker 14: of of the economy and inflation, immigration is their biggest vulnerability.
35:42
Speaker 14: And that's where we have to continue on hitting her. Now,
35:46
Speaker 14: Trump did that in this in this debate to to
35:49
Speaker 14: a large extent, but it does not serve him well.
35:52
Speaker 14: It does not serve the purpose of the Republicans being elected.
35:55
Speaker 14: But continue to talk about things like the clip you
35:58
Speaker 14: showed before about the Haitians eating pets.
36:00
Speaker 13: Right, it makes you look weird.
36:02
Speaker 14: It does make that does make you look weird, right,
36:05
Speaker 14: and it does make it It's an it's it has
36:08
Speaker 14: been look, whether it debunked or not, I'm not sure
36:11
Speaker 14: a number of people have debunked it, I don't know.
36:13
Speaker 14: But it doesn't serve you well for that to be
36:16
Speaker 14: your immigration talking point.
36:18
Speaker 13: It just doesn't There's.
36:19
Speaker 14: So many more clear, true direct ways to hit her
36:23
Speaker 14: on immigration.
36:25
Speaker 13: You don't have to use that.
36:26
Speaker 14: It doesn't serve you well, It doesn't make you look
36:28
Speaker 14: good among regular people don't know anything about this stuff.
36:32
Speaker 14: I think they need to focus on the same the
36:35
Speaker 14: issues that she is most vulnerable on.
36:37
Speaker 13: That clearly she is losing on an imigrasion.
36:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, she certainly, she certainly is. Now. Look, Milania
36:44
Speaker 3: Trump has spoken publicly for the very first time about
36:47
Speaker 3: the assassination attempt on her husband, questioning officials accounts of
36:52
Speaker 3: the incident. This is the video she posted.
36:54
Speaker 17: The attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible,
36:59
Speaker 17: distressing experience. Now, the silence around it feels heavy. I
37:06
Speaker 17: can't help but wonder why didn't law enforcement officials rise
37:11
Speaker 17: the shooter before the speech? There is definitely more to
37:15
Speaker 17: this story, and we need to uncover the truth.
37:19
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you make of the statement she's
37:21
Speaker 4: made here?
37:24
Speaker 14: First of all, I think it's so interesting. I mean,
37:27
Speaker 14: one of the most monumental moments in election history was
37:31
Speaker 14: a candidate an assassination tend to begin a candidate live
37:34
Speaker 14: on television. Yet we've pretty much forgotten all about it.
37:37
Speaker 14: Like I remember, in the moment, it was like this
37:39
Speaker 14: is it Trump in that moment with his hand in
37:41
Speaker 14: the air. I know I will staying around saying, oh God,
37:45
Speaker 14: the election's wrapped up. But we've really, for the most part,
37:49
Speaker 14: it's not been an issue. Kind of forgot all about it,
37:50
Speaker 14: which I think is fascinating. Look, I think her pointed
37:55
Speaker 14: are interesting. I don't think it's any conspiracy around here.
37:57
Speaker 14: I don't like the idea of a conspiracy around it.
38:00
Speaker 13: And it's true.
38:00
Speaker 14: I think competency really was the major issue there. Do
38:04
Speaker 14: you remember when they were saying, well, why didn't they
38:06
Speaker 14: go on the roof and check out the roof? It
38:08
Speaker 14: was a slanted roof. It couldn't go on a roof
38:10
Speaker 14: because it was too dangerous because it was a slight,
38:13
Speaker 14: little slant to the roof. I think that the bigger
38:16
Speaker 14: focus is on a competence as opposed to some kind
38:18
Speaker 14: of conspiracy theory.
38:21
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, that's certainly the way they're trying to paint it,
38:23
Speaker 3: for sure. Now, look, White Fragility author Robin DiAngelo has
38:27
Speaker 3: been tricked into paying reparations to a black producer in
38:31
Speaker 3: podcaster Matt Walsh's upcoming documentary Am I Racist? This is
38:35
Speaker 3: according to The New York Post, which says that an
38:37
Speaker 3: undercover man bun wearing Walsh go to DiAngelo into ponying
38:42
Speaker 3: up cash to his producer Ben to compensate for the
38:45
Speaker 3: sins of the past by first coughing up the money himself.
38:48
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you make of this?
38:52
Speaker 14: Okay, I love that kind of thing. That's part of
38:55
Speaker 14: what I do as well. So I think when they're
38:57
Speaker 14: able to embarrass a race huckster like like like her,
39:04
Speaker 14: Robert de Angelo, I'm all for it. Robert Deaneo has
39:07
Speaker 14: made millions of dollars race baiting and creating racial division
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Speaker 14: or country. She gets significant speaking fees. She does them
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Speaker 14: all the time, and and and by the way, yeah.
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Speaker 13: She she also is.
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Speaker 14: Look, she's one of the more negative forces in our country.
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Speaker 14: And also you know during her PhD thesis she's actually, ironically,
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Speaker 14: I've been accused of plagiarizing a minority scholar.
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Speaker 13: So yeah, I find it all fascinating. Happy to see it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very fascinating. Army Horror, it's great to be
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Speaker 3: with you. Thank you very much for joining us on
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Speaker 3: the show this evening. What's the pleasure We'll stay with
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Speaker 3: us Coming up after the break, the UK labor government
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Speaker 3: sparks outrage over there controversial funding cuts that could lead
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Speaker 3: the elderly without hating during winter. Darren Brimes will join
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Speaker 3: me next. Welcome back. Joining me now is gb News
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Speaker 3: host Darren Grimes. Darren, thanks for joining us. Let's start
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Speaker 3: with the British Prime Minister ki Istamo, who has warnty
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Speaker 3: is prepared to make unpopular decisions on government spending after
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Speaker 3: voting to cut payments which help millions of elderly pay
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Speaker 3: for their heating bills. Now here is the Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: getting slammed by a journalist for cutting the winter fuel.
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Speaker 18: Allowance on that twenty two billion. I want everybody watching
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Speaker 18: this to know and understand that nearly half of that
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Speaker 18: twenty two billion, nine billion pounds comes from decisions that
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Speaker 18: your government has made to give many public sector workers
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Speaker 18: pay rises above inflation, including junior doctors getting twenty two
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Speaker 18: percent of an increase over two years. So again, when
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Speaker 18: it comes to winter fuel allowance, that was a choice.
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Speaker 18: It was a political decision for reasons that you say
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Speaker 18: you want to sort out the economy, But how can
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Speaker 18: you justify it to viewers who feel like it is
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Speaker 18: an attack on some people who've worked hard all their lives.
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Speaker 18: They're not wealthy, they don't have money to spare and
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Speaker 18: this year, if it's cold, they're going to be looking
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Speaker 18: at the thermostat I'm wondering if they can pay their bills.
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Speaker 3: Darren, what does the Prime Minister have against pensioners.
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Speaker 19: Well, that's a very good question, actually, and I think
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Speaker 19: there's a fair amount of evidence right now to suggest
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Speaker 19: that he does have an issue. But look, the issue
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Speaker 19: fundamentally is one of pure polity, which is that the
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Speaker 19: elderly generations do not vote for the left wing Labor Party.
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Speaker 19: It's a Labor party that thends twelve billion pounds in
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Speaker 19: so called climate aid abroad over helping pensioners in an
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Speaker 19: environment in which the Labor Party are actively making energy
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Speaker 19: more expensive through its pursuit of the not zero policy,
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Speaker 19: because they're actually seeking to put household bills up through
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Speaker 19: expensive negotiations that they've just had hundreds of pounds on
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Speaker 19: energy bills through renewable subsidies. So elderly people are going
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Speaker 19: to really suffer this winter as a consequence of the
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Speaker 19: pursuit of net zero and the fact that the Labor
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Speaker 19: Party is ideologically wedded to combat and that it strikes
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Speaker 19: me the so called good times pension has have had
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Speaker 19: since twenty ten, even though we have some of the
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Speaker 19: lowest pensions in the OECD. I just think fundamentally this
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Speaker 19: is purely one of him looking to make some cuts
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Speaker 19: and seeing that elderly people do not vote Labor and
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Speaker 19: therefore they'll be the first ones to receive the acts.
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Speaker 19: It's pure politics and it's really quite wrong actually, because
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Speaker 19: I think thousands of elderly people are going to struggle
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Speaker 19: this winter as energy bills go up by ten percent
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Speaker 19: ten percent. We should be an energy independent country, but
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Speaker 19: where instead a basket case in pursuit of greater politics.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not wrong, and it's a very concerning particularly
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Speaker 3: for the vulnerable. As you mentioned now, Darren, more than
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Speaker 3: seventeen hundred prisoners have been released early in England and
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Speaker 3: Wales as part of a government scheme to ease over
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Speaker 3: crowding in prisons. I've got to say, Darren, this seems
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Speaker 3: like a worry to me.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, well indeed it is. I mean, there are a
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Speaker 19: lord of young men getting out of prison yesterday saying
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Speaker 19: that they would vote for the Labor Party for the
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Speaker 19: rest of their lives. They were so happy with that
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Speaker 19: as they popped champagne courts and all the rest of it. Look,
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Speaker 19: this is deeply troubling because the report suggests that actually
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Speaker 19: there are a whole host of people in this country
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Speaker 19: victims of crime who don't know that the perpetrator of
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Speaker 19: said crime is now released and into the wild, so
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Speaker 19: getting up to goodness only knows what. There is no
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Speaker 19: safety anymore in this country. You know, knife crime goes
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Speaker 19: off without hitch. Phone snatchings in London are more frequent
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Speaker 19: than catching one of those red buses. It just it
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Speaker 19: seems like this is a country where that is really
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Speaker 19: really just thing to hell with law and order, and
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Speaker 19: that has severe consequences for the population, but also even
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Speaker 19: for tourism and things like that. People don't feel safe
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Speaker 19: coming to a country that is operating in the way
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Speaker 19: in which we are right now. So I'm afraid to
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Speaker 19: say that until actually the law and law makers make
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Speaker 19: sure that there are consequences for law breakers, then this
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Speaker 19: kind of thing is just going to continue to spiral on.
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Speaker 19: I don't know about you, but I would have done
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Speaker 19: absolutely everything in my gift to make sure that prisoners
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Speaker 19: would not be out early, to make sure they have
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Speaker 19: actually suffered the consequences of their actions. But now we're
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Speaker 19: talking a believer it or not. The Labor government are
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Speaker 19: talking about putting them up in hotels in the interim
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Speaker 19: because we don't have the prison population. Well, what's wrong
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Speaker 19: with the Bibby Stockholm that we had are just off
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Speaker 19: the coast of Britain where actually we were going to
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Speaker 19: put the asylum so called asylum seekers that arrived here illegally. Well,
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Speaker 19: that actually would have done for a few prison population places.
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Speaker 19: But instead we're talking about putting them in hotels. I mean,
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Speaker 19: what kind of a terran is that?
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Speaker 4: Well, what kind of precedent is it setting?
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Speaker 3: It's just like a he go, here's a free for all.
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Speaker 3: You can get out of jail early. No worries on
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Speaker 3: the labor government extraordinary. Now, look, the UK has joined
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Speaker 3: the US, France and Germany in imposing fresh sanctions on
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Speaker 3: Iran for supplying Russia with ballistic missiles for use in
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Speaker 3: Ukraine Darren. The measures include a halting national carrier Iran's
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Speaker 3: ability to fly to the UK.
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Speaker 4: How big of an impact will this have do you think?
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Speaker 19: Look, I think the impact will be negligible at best,
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Speaker 19: because let's not forget that we are a country that
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Speaker 19: just the other week suspended barred band certain arms sales
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Speaker 19: to the State of Israel. Now, the State of Israel,
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Speaker 19: in my opinion, is very much at the frontier of
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Speaker 19: the battle against the tyrannical Iranian state and its proxies. Now,
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Speaker 19: we can do this all we want and virtue signal
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Speaker 19: about Iran air and all these other things, but actually
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Speaker 19: we just said to Israel that we're going to unarm
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Speaker 19: them in certain respects whilst they actually fight Iran. Now
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Speaker 19: to me, that means that we're pandering to the allies
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Speaker 19: of Iran here at home over actually standing by what
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Speaker 19: is one of our most important, key strategic allies within
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Speaker 19: the region. So I think this is just completely disjointed
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Speaker 19: by the United Kingdom. Apparently our US allies are also
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Speaker 19: angry with the decision that's a care starmer made to
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Speaker 19: suspend the sale of those arms. So I'm afraid that
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Speaker 19: I don't buy this whatsoever. I think there is far
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Speaker 19: too much pandering to these nefarious Islamists who are in
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Speaker 19: the State of Iran, but also their allies within the
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Speaker 19: Western world too, And until we get serious on that,
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Speaker 19: because around does have a significant hold within places like
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Speaker 19: the United Kingdom, which is maddening to say, to be
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Speaker 19: perfectly frank, but until we actually get serious on the
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Speaker 19: threat at home as well. But it doesn't really matter
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Speaker 19: about the threat through an airline carrier. I'm afraid no.
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Speaker 3: I completely agree he look, I want pivot to the
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Speaker 3: Royals because Megan and Harry showed their desperation for relevancy
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Speaker 3: once again. Soon after Princess Kate released her heartfelt cancer update,
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Speaker 3: the Non Royals then released a teaser for their latest
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Speaker 3: Netflix program, Polo. I don't know about you.
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Speaker 4: I find the timing very curious.
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Speaker 3: They've always got a.
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Speaker 4: One up the actual Royal family, it seems.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, exactly, And it's disgusting timing, really, isn't it, given
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Speaker 19: that that was a very emotional video in which the
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Speaker 19: Princess of Wales, Kate was actually making clear that you know,
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Speaker 19: she had gone through her chemotherapy journey, and it was
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Speaker 19: a message of hope, of love, of optimism, really really lovely.
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Speaker 19: And then you've got actually a little sop to a
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Speaker 19: sport that precious little people play, apart from the extremely
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Speaker 19: privileged in many cases and royal members of the Royal family.
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Speaker 19: So I think the timing cannot be coincidental. As Jenny
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Speaker 19: Bond was saying there, I think actually the fact of
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Speaker 19: the matter is that they want to actually piggyback off
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Speaker 19: of the fact that the case is in the press
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Speaker 19: in such a serious way. Every single press outlet that
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Speaker 19: I can think of, whether it be America, Australia, the
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Speaker 19: United Kingdom, was carrying that video. So they want to
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Speaker 19: actually ensure that their Netflix venture, which is going down
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Speaker 19: the pan by the way, they want to make sure
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Speaker 19: it has some semblance of success. This is desperation from
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Speaker 19: this petulant pair.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely as always, Darren Grimes, great to have you on.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us this evening.
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Speaker 4: Well that's it for me. Up next is News Night.
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Speaker 3: Good Night,