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Targeting the Wrong Anger ( Sarah Jakes Sermon and Cardi B Tour Success) · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: You know, before we get into our episodes, we always
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Speaker 1: check in behind the scenes of the grind. So this
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Speaker 1: past weekend, I went home hung out with some family,
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Speaker 1: y'all know, like hanging out with fearing me. I feel
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Speaker 1: like it's like my that's my like centerpiece that always
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Speaker 1: brings me back to like super like motivated, ready to
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Speaker 1: tackle the week. Just a good feeling being with the
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Speaker 1: people that love you, you know what I mean, Like
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Speaker 1: it just doesn't very much so a fulfilling. So did
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Speaker 1: that over the weekend. So feeling refreshed. If you can't
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Speaker 1: hear it in my voice, but also this week, my
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Speaker 1: mom goes into the doctors for her cancer scan checkup.
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Speaker 1: So she's been doing it every three to six months,
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Speaker 1: and she was doing super super well with all of
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Speaker 1: her skin, so they leaned more into six months over
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Speaker 1: three eventually, And that's how it happens. Once you get
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Speaker 1: to the point where you're like a year out a
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Speaker 1: year and some change out. Since they've seen any growth
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Speaker 1: and any masses or anything like that in your body,
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Speaker 1: they're now able to still scan you frequently, but like
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Speaker 1: allow more time in between the scans. So she has
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Speaker 1: a scan coming up this week, and they did see
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Speaker 1: a little bit of growth in her brain area for
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Speaker 1: one of the masses that she had been dealing with,
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Speaker 1: but it was nothing that they said was alarming at
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Speaker 1: the time. It wasn't any large growth, but they just
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Speaker 1: there bear her doctor, her oncologist, who was like the
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Speaker 1: quarterback of cancer patient's medical team. It's always super honest
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Speaker 1: with me, very detailed because of a lot of the
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Speaker 1: issues we went through in the beginning of everything, where
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Speaker 1: they overlooked the fact that she even had cancer, and
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Speaker 1: it was just a lot that we had to fight
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Speaker 1: through her first year. And I documented that all on
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Speaker 1: my YouTube, most of it anyway, until they became lo
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Speaker 1: traumatizing as you guys can imagine. But if you check
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Speaker 1: out my YouTube channel Lauren La Rosa TV l O
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Speaker 1: I documented all of her process, from you know, having strokes,
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Speaker 1: to us really not understanding why the strokes were happening,
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Speaker 1: to finding out that she was dealing with cancer and
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Speaker 1: how that triggered a lot of other things. But you know,
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Speaker 1: we've been in the hospital and they tell us she
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Speaker 1: was fine and tell me everything was fine, and I
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Speaker 1: would have to force them to do certain skins, which
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Speaker 1: very detail oriented with me and have been from all
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Speaker 1: So I say all that to say, nothing to worry about,
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Speaker 1: but we just do keep really close eyes on everything.
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Speaker 1: So she's here in New York. She says she wants
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Speaker 1: to go to work with me this week, so you
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Speaker 1: may see her at the breakfast club as well. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm just excited to be able to check in and
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Speaker 1: you know, know that positive things will come out of
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Speaker 1: her check ins. That was such a different story some
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Speaker 1: years ago. So every time we prepare for these doctors appointments,
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Speaker 1: it's more of like a rejoicing feeling now versus like
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Speaker 1: being scared and you know, just being in such a
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Speaker 1: dark place because God literally did a miracle in our situation.
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Speaker 1: So I'll keep you guys posted on that. But behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes, to the ground, that's what I'm doing. I'm
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Speaker 1: daughter caretaker. I'm daughter every day, but I'm caretaker oh
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Speaker 1: D this week because she'll be here in New York
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Speaker 1: with me for a few days as we head into
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Speaker 1: those skins and some follow up appointments. So you may
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Speaker 1: even hear her here because she loves to talk. She'd
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Speaker 1: be wanting to get on the podcast. Y'all think I
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Speaker 1: got the rambles, y'all. Wait, see, y'all hear my mom.
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Speaker 1: Let's get on into the latest as we talk about
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Speaker 1: God having his hand on things. Let me tell y'all something.
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Speaker 1: So last Friday night I went home to Delaware and
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Speaker 1: my first stop was a very special evening with my church.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Seeds of Greatness three h two. It
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Speaker 1: is a church in Newcastle, Delaware. If you were in
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Speaker 1: the Tristate area and you were looking for a church,
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Speaker 1: home a church family. I'm telling y'all right now, not
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Speaker 1: just because I go there to go. You can also
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Speaker 1: watch it live on YouTube. Sees the Greatness Church on YouTube.
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Speaker 1: I tagged them in a lot of things often when
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Speaker 1: I'm watching it. I tagged them on my Instagram, I
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Speaker 1: tag them on my Twitter. You can find them everywhere.
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Speaker 1: But that church is led by Pastor Jerome Lewis and
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Speaker 1: first Lady Lisa Lewis. But the Friday evening service I
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Speaker 1: went to, and I like, y'all know, I told y'all
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Speaker 1: me and God like we re rekindled our relationship. You know,
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Speaker 1: I took a lot of time just really getting my
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Speaker 1: spiritual life together because I don't know, I just felt
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Speaker 1: like there was a lot that I was going to
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Speaker 1: need to lean on as things ushered newly into my
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Speaker 1: life with the podcast and coming on to the Breakfast Club,
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Speaker 1: and you know, things just moving and changing and stepping
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Speaker 1: back out onto faith and moving out of Delaware, from
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Speaker 1: helping out my mom a bit when I left LA
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Speaker 1: and figuring it all out from nothing like literally, and
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Speaker 1: you know, in doing that, there's been times where I
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm not dedicating as much time to that
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Speaker 1: relationship as I should be. And whenever I get to
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Speaker 1: that point, God's gonna let me veril too far. So
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Speaker 1: church for me on a Friday is very new. I've
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Speaker 1: never been to church on any day but a Sunday.
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Speaker 1: But I'm so happy that I decided to go to
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Speaker 1: this special evening service that they did. It was called
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Speaker 1: Girlfriends and it's a woman's evening that they do at
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Speaker 1: Siege Church. And they have various different things that they do,
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Speaker 1: so this is like, you know, something that they do
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Speaker 1: at different times and they invite different speakers and all
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Speaker 1: of that. But this Friday, Pastor Sarah Jakes Roberts came
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Speaker 1: to speak to us. She is the daughter of Tdjkes.
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Speaker 1: She is the wife of Torrey Roberts, who you guys
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Speaker 1: may know from one Church La and various other places
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Speaker 1: as well too, author as well. But let me tell y'all,
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Speaker 1: like when and I've always tapped in to Pastor Sarah
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Speaker 1: just because Number one, I think she's fly, Like I
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Speaker 1: love somebody who was powerful, who impacts, but like also
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Speaker 1: gonna come through in a nice little pump and a
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Speaker 1: nice little fit, like she is so fly. But also
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Speaker 1: I just I've always been just the Pastor Terrey and
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Speaker 1: Pastor Sarah as a unit have always just been very,
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Speaker 1: very attractive to me in the way that they need
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Speaker 1: their lives because they they're they're ever like, they're doing
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Speaker 1: so much business. They have podcasts, they have books, they
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Speaker 1: have a family, they have each other, like you know,
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Speaker 1: they have their marriage. But they're in the church. But
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Speaker 1: they're young, they're tapped in, they know what's going on.
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Speaker 1: And I've always just been very you know, like attracted
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Speaker 1: to what that full life looks like and how you
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Speaker 1: get to that point, cause, like you know, I grew
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Speaker 1: up in a family that is like very like super
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Speaker 1: super light, you know, God above everything else. So I
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Speaker 1: grew up in faith and in religion like you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'm not one of them people
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Speaker 1: that's like, oh, I didn't have a choice, so I
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Speaker 1: chose not to. Like no, I grew up in it.
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Speaker 1: I understood how it being the basis of your life
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Speaker 1: with such a guiding and protective force, and how favor
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Speaker 1: over your life and you know, your walk with God.
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Speaker 1: Like how much fuller those people felt to me because
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Speaker 1: those are the type of people that raised me. So
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Speaker 1: watching them be those people but also be young and
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Speaker 1: be in the world, but not of the world, like
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Speaker 1: I've always been trying to figure out, like how do
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Speaker 1: they live that way so perfectly and so easily. And
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Speaker 1: the more I've watched them and I went to their
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Speaker 1: church in La, I begin to realize that it's not
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Speaker 1: as perfect as it seems. But I love that and
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Speaker 1: I love the fact that they share it, right. So
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Speaker 1: I've tuned in to Pastor Sarah often when she's doing
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Speaker 1: her sermons and different speaking engagements, and you know, I've
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Speaker 1: watched some of her podcast episodes as well too, but
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Speaker 1: seeing her at Siege Church was a completely different version
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Speaker 1: of her, like something that I've never experienced on watching
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Speaker 1: her on any other platform. And I don't know if
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Speaker 1: it's because it was my first time actually getting to
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Speaker 1: hear her preach in person and really really speak deeply
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Speaker 1: in person, or if it's because I was at my
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Speaker 1: church where I feel home at and you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, Like, it's just it's different when you with
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Speaker 1: your people, you can kind of like chill a little
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Speaker 1: bit and be open to hearing things a little bit differently.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but she, like I
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Speaker 1: see so much of the woman I want to become
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Speaker 1: in her. But also I see her being so open
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Speaker 1: and honest about her false Let's get into it. I'm
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Speaker 1: talking too much. So she talked to us about something
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Speaker 1: I was really special. She talked about anger, and the
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Speaker 1: reason why, first of all, I thought that this was
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Speaker 1: clever of her to do at a woman's based event,
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Speaker 1: especially an event full of black women, was because black
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Speaker 1: women and anger. You call a black woman angry, it's
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Speaker 1: the most disrespectful thing you can do. They're going off
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Speaker 1: on you. The next is rolling, honey, the lips is smacking.
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Speaker 1: That's just not a conversation we ever want to be
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Speaker 1: associated with. But she talked about anger and owning it
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Speaker 1: and being associated with it in a way that I've
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Speaker 1: never heard someone talk about it before. So she talked
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Speaker 1: about what it looks like when you begin to sharpen
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Speaker 1: your target, So when you're angry at something, or angry
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Speaker 1: about something or angry at someone, understanding where the anger
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Speaker 1: is actually coming from, and using what comes up in
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Speaker 1: you to target the real thing and not what we
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Speaker 1: think is the thing. Let's get into the clipman, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to.
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Speaker 3: Take it into the Bible, and woman evolves the foundation
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Speaker 3: of woman evolves built on Genesis three and fifteen.
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Speaker 4: One of the things that I love about this scripture,
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Speaker 4: and there are so many things, but one of the
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Speaker 4: things that I love the most is that it says
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Speaker 4: that the Lord told the serpent that he put hostility
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Speaker 4: between the.
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Speaker 5: Woman and the serpent.
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Speaker 3: Hostility that's anger, that's content that he puts is not
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Speaker 3: where the enemy has hostility towards the woman. He put
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Speaker 3: hostility between them. And when we find out ourselves hating ourselves,
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Speaker 3: we're taking the hostility that should have been targeted towards
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Speaker 3: the enemy and internalizing it against ourselves. But the scripture
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Speaker 3: says that he put hostility between the serpent and the woman.
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Speaker 3: That means that the Lord understood that there is something that.
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Speaker 1: The woman possesses when.
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Speaker 3: She gets angry, that can be channeled into action that
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Speaker 3: can allow my kingdom to be established.
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Speaker 5: In the earth.
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Speaker 3: If a woman gets angry and she remembers who the
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Speaker 3: right target is, she will go to war with the enemy.
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Speaker 3: Your hostility is what the Lord place between you and
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Speaker 3: the serpent.
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Speaker 5: That's why you can't hate on another woman. That's why
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Speaker 5: you can't be distracted. Hey, I'm gonna some man that
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Speaker 5: walked out on you. No, no, no, the hostility is
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Speaker 5: between you and the enemy. You got to make sure
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Speaker 5: you have the right target.
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Speaker 1: And I need she said. When a woman has the
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Speaker 1: right target, things change. When I tell y'all, she got
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Speaker 1: into the things and I understood her because, you know,
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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of times in life, especially
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Speaker 1: I mean personal life career, when you are working so
12:43
Speaker 1: hard for things to work out a certain way, or
12:45
Speaker 1: when you just have a lot on the line, a
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Speaker 1: lot of people who rely on you whenever things veer
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Speaker 1: off or just don't happen a way that you think
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Speaker 1: that they should, or someone's in the way, or you know,
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Speaker 1: just you know, you got that one little thing that
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Speaker 1: just ticks you off and maybe throws you off of
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Speaker 1: what your vibe, your hustle, your you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: like just throws you off. You're so pissed off, you're
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Speaker 1: so upset. And a lot of times now in the
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Speaker 1: space that I'm in it in this new body. You know,
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Speaker 1: I ain't got my body done, y'all, but I got
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Speaker 1: a new body. I've had to take on like a
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Speaker 1: very different approach to how I deal with things because
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Speaker 1: I'm so people fixing now that like one wrong, anything
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Speaker 1: could do a lot of damage to everything. I just
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Speaker 1: talked about what I'm working on, what I'm working for
13:31
Speaker 1: the people who are relying on me. Also, like you know,
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Speaker 1: I always like to think that I like, I'm still
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Speaker 1: a student, But having to be okay with still being
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Speaker 1: a student while you have success in some areas is
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Speaker 1: like I think only the best in the humblest of
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Speaker 1: people who are actually normally like really successful because they're
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Speaker 1: able to understand that. Like when you walk into a
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Speaker 1: new area or a new rim or I sit at
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Speaker 1: a new table, none of what you've done before you
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Speaker 1: got the matter everything. The only thing that matters is
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Speaker 1: how much you're willing to learn right there in that
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Speaker 1: moment from the people that are there with you, because
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Speaker 1: you're there for a reason. But if you want to
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Speaker 1: elevate from that space, you got to look at the
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Speaker 1: people that are already doing it. All of that takes
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Speaker 1: it's like a posturing thing, Like it takes such a posture,
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Speaker 1: I can't even describe it in words. But that has been,
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Speaker 1: you know, my journey right now. So when I'm hearing
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Speaker 1: her talk about this, I'm thinking about so many different
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Speaker 1: things and so many different frustrations and how it's like,
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Speaker 1: what are you spending your time on? Like, what are
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Speaker 1: you spending your time upset about? What are you spending
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Speaker 1: your time? Like how many times, like I literally was
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Speaker 1: asking myself sitting there, Lauren, how many times have you
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Speaker 1: been mad at not like your target has been off,
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Speaker 1: whether it's you being mad because you're in your own way,
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Speaker 1: or you know, the accountability isn't there, or like whatever
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Speaker 1: the case may be, how much time have you wasted
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Speaker 1: like putting anger in the wrong places when anger really
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Speaker 1: all it is is like a fuel or motivation for
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Speaker 1: you to get things done, to get to a finish line.
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Speaker 1: So she's talking that night, and you know she also
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Speaker 1: you know, talks a bit about how she even got
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Speaker 1: to the point where now she is pastoring the Potter's
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Speaker 1: House out of Texas, which is traditionally Tdjakes's church where
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Speaker 1: he actually pastors. But you guys will remember back in
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Speaker 1: November of twenty twenty four, Pastor TD Jake's passed out
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Speaker 1: on the stage of his church live like live broadcast
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Speaker 1: in the middle of preaching during the service, and at
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Speaker 1: the time none of us knew what happened. He ended
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Speaker 1: up coming out a few months later in Legansonda, he
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Speaker 1: had a massive heart attack. He spoke to Craig Melvin
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Speaker 1: at the Today Show back in March of twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: five about that heart attack. Let's stick alation.
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Speaker 2: Let's end the speculation. Now. What did happen to you
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Speaker 2: that morning on stage? You know, I didn't really realize
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Speaker 2: what was happening on me on stage until I got
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Speaker 2: to the hospital in an ambulance and fussing that it
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Speaker 2: happened those stage and by the way, because I didn't
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Speaker 2: want it to happen. And the doctor leaned over in
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Speaker 2: my ear and said, you'd had a massive heart attack.
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Speaker 2: And the reason I didn't realize this because I had
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Speaker 2: none of the symptoms that they say, no numbness, no
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Speaker 2: sharp pain, no anything. I just kind of drifted off
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Speaker 2: to sleep. I didn't know what it was, but almost
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Speaker 2: died massive heart attack, he said five minutes later. I'd
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Speaker 2: have been dead on arrival. The right side of my
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Speaker 2: heart had completely stopped getting blood at all. And as
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Speaker 2: long as I was up preaching, I felt fine. But
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Speaker 2: when I sat down, the adrenaline dropped and it exposed
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Speaker 2: the fact that I was preaching with half of my
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Speaker 2: heart closed through a clot and they had to go
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Speaker 2: get it. And it was an amazing experience. Man. It
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Speaker 2: was just totally the whole experience, not just what they saw,
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Speaker 2: but the surgery everything. They say sometimes that when you
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Speaker 2: come that close to dath, you you see things, you
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Speaker 2: hear things.
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Speaker 1: Did you see or hear any of it?
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Speaker 2: I wasn't there in the chair. It wasn't. I didn't
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Speaker 2: experience like it looks like it's tardd from me to
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Speaker 2: look at that video because I wasn't. They had to
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Speaker 2: claw the microphone out of my head and I wrote
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Speaker 2: a book, Don't Drop the Micside. I didn't plan to
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Speaker 2: live up to it like that, but they had to
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Speaker 2: crawl out of my hand. But in my mind, I
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Speaker 2: was in a quiet, peaceful, serene, white enveloped, cloud enveloped space.
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Speaker 2: I was on my way out.
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Speaker 1: So from the outside looking in. Right when it's announced
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Speaker 1: that Pastor Tdjakes and her husband Tory Roberts are going
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Speaker 1: to go back to Texas and go back to you know,
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Speaker 1: and sit at the helm of the church and run
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Speaker 1: the church and kind of take things over, and Tdjkes
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Speaker 1: would still be doing a lot of things, but he
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Speaker 1: just wouldn't be at the forefront, which if you are
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Speaker 1: a child of a person who is running a business,
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Speaker 1: running a brand, whatever, you know what that's like. It
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Speaker 1: gets to a point where your parent is just you
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Speaker 1: have to step up, Like, regardless of whatever you're doing
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Speaker 1: in your life, you have to step up, you have
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Speaker 1: to step in, have to help facilitate. So I understood it,
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Speaker 1: but from the outside looking in, it looked like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: maybe health wise, he's to a point where he just
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Speaker 1: can't continue on. And I do think that that was
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Speaker 1: a part of it, even though she didn't talk about
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Speaker 1: that at our church service, but what she talked about
18:23
Speaker 1: was something that we would have never known from the
18:25
Speaker 1: outside looking in. She talked about how even identifying anger
18:32
Speaker 1: in her life and the fact that she wasn't targeting
18:34
Speaker 1: it to the right places was because of that call
18:38
Speaker 1: to be returned back to pastor over that church in Dallas,
18:42
Speaker 1: because that's the church that she grew up in. She
18:44
Speaker 1: had a baby very young. She had a baby at
18:46
Speaker 1: fourteen years old. Wow her, you know, she's a pastor's
18:49
Speaker 1: kid and she's pregnant at fourteen, So you can imagine
18:52
Speaker 1: what she went through, you know, judgment wise, and just
18:55
Speaker 1: not feeling like enough, feeling like she made you know,
18:58
Speaker 1: bad decisions, and having to live her life through all
19:01
Speaker 1: of that while your dad is out being TD Jake's right,
19:04
Speaker 1: and she said that it cast so much anger in her.
19:06
Speaker 1: I would play the clip, but at that point of
19:09
Speaker 1: the service, I was so into it. I wasn't even recording, like,
19:12
Speaker 1: I was just like, I need to get this and
19:14
Speaker 1: I need to get it now. And she was, you know,
19:17
Speaker 1: talking about how being able to just identify and be
19:21
Speaker 1: okay with the fact that she was angry. That was
19:23
Speaker 1: the first step. And then once she identified that, she
19:26
Speaker 1: used that to fuel what her service in that church
19:30
Speaker 1: would look like, what you know, hitting different goals in
19:33
Speaker 1: her life around the fact that she had to move
19:35
Speaker 1: to Texas would look like. And it made me think
19:39
Speaker 1: a lot about Number one, the fact that like in
19:41
Speaker 1: the media, right, because she also talked about having a
19:43
Speaker 1: very weird relationship with social media and media in general
19:47
Speaker 1: and not being as vulnerable as she used to be
19:49
Speaker 1: and blogging and stuff like that because now you know,
19:53
Speaker 1: she's super famous as well too, and everything gets picked
19:56
Speaker 1: up and I understand that it makes you not want
19:58
Speaker 1: to like you do as many that's more as possible.
20:00
Speaker 1: You do what you need to do when you log off.
20:02
Speaker 1: And I've gotten in that practice and I hate it
20:04
Speaker 1: because I've never been like that. I've always been very like,
20:07
Speaker 1: you know, let's share, let's talk, and I think you know,
20:10
Speaker 1: it's a time and place for everything, you can do
20:12
Speaker 1: everything respectively. But I understood what she was saying because
20:16
Speaker 1: I thought back to the way that I even covered
20:19
Speaker 1: and reported on her return back to that church. In doubtless,
20:24
Speaker 1: there was such an opportunity for a bigger conversation of
20:26
Speaker 1: what she as a person might have needed to heal
20:29
Speaker 1: from at that time and the support she needed publicly,
20:32
Speaker 1: like in people saying it and letting her know, like,
20:34
Speaker 1: you know, none of what you're returning to is who
20:37
Speaker 1: you are now. But we covered it just as like
20:40
Speaker 1: you know, her father, the emergency, her returning back now,
20:45
Speaker 1: it's just very surface level, but you, I mean, you
20:48
Speaker 1: just never know. So hearing her talk about that in
20:50
Speaker 1: roal time, I'm just looking around and there were thousands
20:53
Speaker 1: of people in the church, y'all. I've never seen church
20:56
Speaker 1: pack like that. I mean you had to literally park
20:59
Speaker 1: parking lots like down the road. There was a line
21:02
Speaker 1: of cars from two different angles, both on the like
21:06
Speaker 1: you know, turning and left and turning and right, just
21:08
Speaker 1: waiting to be able to park. They turned away hundreds
21:11
Speaker 1: and hundreds and hundreds of people. That is the type
21:14
Speaker 1: of impact and reach that she has. So to even
21:18
Speaker 1: begin to imagine what it feels like to be her
21:22
Speaker 1: and to be you know, she's talking about being vulnerable,
21:25
Speaker 1: being judged, being angry, and she's on stage telling all
21:28
Speaker 1: of us this, and I was like, yo, I'm looking around,
21:31
Speaker 1: like the way that platform and positioning can be used
21:36
Speaker 1: when you're when you're really like open to understanding what
21:41
Speaker 1: it is that your mission is and what you would
21:43
Speaker 1: call here to do, but also when you're not running
21:45
Speaker 1: from it. Because a lot of what I was hearing
21:48
Speaker 1: from her was she ran from a lot of the
21:50
Speaker 1: things that were placed in her life that she had
21:52
Speaker 1: the experience. Because the woman that I heard talking on
21:56
Speaker 1: that stage, I told you, I've watched her preach before
21:58
Speaker 1: and everything she does is a me. But Friday Night,
22:02
Speaker 1: Sarah Jake Roberts, she was just Sarah. She was a
22:05
Speaker 1: girl who has been through some things that wanted to
22:07
Speaker 1: talk to us from a real place. And if she
22:09
Speaker 1: hadn't have went through what she went through. The over
22:13
Speaker 1: two thousand women that were in that room, whether you
22:15
Speaker 1: were sanctified, holy oil on the forehead, big hat or not,
22:20
Speaker 1: wouldn't have felt her the way that we did. And
22:22
Speaker 1: I promise you guys, there were so many people in
22:25
Speaker 1: there that were not members of the church. They were
22:27
Speaker 1: just there for her. And that's what like impact and
22:31
Speaker 1: calling looks like in real time. And to the witness
22:34
Speaker 1: that I was like, oh my God. But to hear
22:36
Speaker 1: her talk about it, you know, when she talks about
22:38
Speaker 1: not being as vulnerable anymore, I'm like, oh, no, we
22:42
Speaker 1: need that. But I understand, you know, the things that
22:45
Speaker 1: you go through. And it made me also think a
22:48
Speaker 1: lot about you know, we've been reporting a lot on
22:51
Speaker 1: Cardi B going into our next story here in the
22:53
Speaker 1: Latest and then Cardi B just finished a headlining arena
22:58
Speaker 1: tour and she is the first female rapper to do
23:02
Speaker 1: so since Nicki Minaj did so in twenty twenty three
23:06
Speaker 1: I'm Sorry in twenty twenty four. From twenty twenty four
23:09
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty six, Nicki Minaj did her Pink Friday
23:12
Speaker 1: Too World tour and made history as a highest grossing
23:16
Speaker 1: tour by female rapper and Cardi B just did it
23:19
Speaker 1: with her Little Misdrama tour right and her tour grossed
23:23
Speaker 1: over seventy million dollars reportedly and sold more than four
23:25
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand tickets across a thirty five city run.
23:29
Speaker 1: But Carti talked a lot. We talked about it on episode.
23:33
Speaker 1: Carti talked a lot about going through such a dark
23:36
Speaker 1: space over the last year or two because she didn't
23:39
Speaker 1: feel enough, she didn't feel like she had what it took.
23:42
Speaker 1: She was listening to a lot of outside people she like,
23:45
Speaker 1: I don't know, she just was in a very different
23:47
Speaker 1: space and she was vulnerable about that and vulnerable. And
23:51
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when you think about people that
23:52
Speaker 1: are on these platforms that are vulnerable, I think people
23:54
Speaker 1: connect to them and can sell out arenas and do
23:57
Speaker 1: all these different things. Because what happened to the best
24:00
Speaker 1: of us is when you come about of it, you
24:02
Speaker 1: know how to target it. Cardi talked about using that
24:05
Speaker 1: anger and using that feeling of not feeling good enough
24:08
Speaker 1: and you know, everything she was dealing with and being like,
24:10
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna get on this tour and
24:12
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show y'all what I need to do. The
24:16
Speaker 1: last tour stop in Atlanta, Cardi brought out Missy Elliott.
24:21
Speaker 1: She brought out that they had Chamorrow on the stage.
24:22
Speaker 1: If y'all don't know, Schamar's Instagram influencer, hilarious Ti on
24:27
Speaker 1: the stage. Like, there were so many people there. Tyler
24:32
Speaker 1: Perry was there. I saw candy from Real House Hoves
24:35
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, Portie William's Real Housewves of Atlanta. I mean,
24:40
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting some names. There were so many people that
24:43
Speaker 1: came out to Superlado that came out to support Carti. Right,
24:47
Speaker 1: this tour sells out thirty five cities. She made history.
24:50
Speaker 1: She started this tour and not even feeling good enough
24:52
Speaker 1: to do it or good enough to release an album.
24:55
Speaker 1: And now look at her, and it's crazy because I
24:58
Speaker 1: started looking into like, well, why is it so hard?
25:01
Speaker 1: Because before so you have Cardi b who did you know?
25:04
Speaker 1: The Little Misdrama tour was just wrapped this past weekend.
25:07
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj made history, you know, setting records with her
25:11
Speaker 1: her concerts and her tours with her Pink Friday two
25:15
Speaker 1: world tour, and she grossed over one hundred and eight
25:19
Speaker 1: point eight million dollars and at the time, she was
25:23
Speaker 1: the first female rap artist to sell out every show
25:26
Speaker 1: consecutively during the first American leg, which included thirty six
25:29
Speaker 1: to thirty nine dates. And then prior to this, you
25:31
Speaker 1: saw Dojikat she did an arena tour with her Scarlet
25:34
Speaker 1: Letter Tour that was in twenty twenty three, and it
25:38
Speaker 1: was her first arena tour actually, and she didn't completely
25:40
Speaker 1: sell out that tour, but there were some dates that
25:42
Speaker 1: sold out, but she grossed over forty six million dollars.
25:45
Speaker 1: Missy Elliott. You know how ironic that little that I
25:49
Speaker 1: was gonna say Little Kim because Cardi brought out Little
25:51
Speaker 1: Kim in New York. But how ironic that Cardi b
25:54
Speaker 1: brought out Missy Elliott, who also sold out an arena
25:58
Speaker 1: tour in twenty twenty four. But I don't know if
26:01
Speaker 1: people remember this because it was shocking at the time,
26:03
Speaker 1: but I think it went over a lot of people's
26:05
Speaker 1: heads because it's Missy Elliott and she should have been
26:07
Speaker 1: done it. That was Missy Elliott's first ever headlining arena tour.
26:12
Speaker 1: It was Out of This World tour, which grows roughly
26:14
Speaker 1: thirty three million dollars and she had some sold out
26:18
Speaker 1: nights in major markets, but it was twenty twenty four,
26:22
Speaker 1: Missy Elliott. We wouldn't have a Cardi b and Nicki
26:25
Speaker 1: Minaj without a Missy Elliott, right, And she's just now
26:28
Speaker 1: doing her headlining arena tour in twenty twenty four. Before that,
26:32
Speaker 1: it was laurn Hill, who you know, she sought out
26:35
Speaker 1: arenas globally before, but you know, notoriously. She does a
26:39
Speaker 1: lot of like anniversary tours around the miseducation of laurn Hill,
26:44
Speaker 1: including one that you know had some conversation around it
26:47
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. So I
26:49
Speaker 1: started looking up, like, why is it so difficult? Not difficult,
26:52
Speaker 1: I had to use that word when we talk about woman,
26:54
Speaker 1: But why is it so like hit or miss or like,
26:57
Speaker 1: oh my god when a woman sells out an arena tour,
26:59
Speaker 1: because male rappers do this all the time. And a
27:03
Speaker 1: lot of what I was seeing is because of you know,
27:05
Speaker 1: the gender disparities and double standards. Performance expectations are higher,
27:11
Speaker 1: there are systemic biases and you know, within the music business.
27:14
Speaker 1: And again these are all things these women could have
27:16
Speaker 1: been upset about. But they got to a point where
27:19
Speaker 1: they use that anger and they targeted it in the
27:22
Speaker 1: right place, and they're forever going to be talked about
27:25
Speaker 1: because of that. And when I talk about some of
27:27
Speaker 1: the you know, the the biases and things like that,
27:30
Speaker 1: it's just things as simple as like I've heard people
27:33
Speaker 1: say all the time, female talent is just so much
27:36
Speaker 1: more difficult to break or more difficult to turn into
27:39
Speaker 1: stars or you know, even when you're talking about these tours.
27:41
Speaker 1: One of the things I saw in some of our
27:43
Speaker 1: research was there's a higher performance baseline. So female artists
27:47
Speaker 1: are held to like that full package standard. So when
27:50
Speaker 1: you go see a female artist, you want choreography, you
27:53
Speaker 1: want stage presents, you want aesthetic changes. We're male rappers.
27:58
Speaker 1: If it's your favorite rapper, all he need is a
27:59
Speaker 1: mic and lyrics, maybe a dance or two, if even that,
28:03
Speaker 1: and a little bit of fire, a little bit of smoke,
28:04
Speaker 1: a little bit of gun sounds, and y'all good. Then
28:07
Speaker 1: you had the fact that, I mean, people will call
28:10
Speaker 1: rap a male dominated industry in general, but let's be
28:13
Speaker 1: honest with all the lasts, Like what year or so
28:15
Speaker 1: the girls have been the anthems have been coming from
28:19
Speaker 1: the ladies. It's been all us. But then you also
28:22
Speaker 1: have talking about the media. Again, there's the media driven
28:26
Speaker 1: conversation and competitive competitiveness, you know, because everybody's pinned against
28:31
Speaker 1: each other. And I think in rat that happens in general,
28:34
Speaker 1: but with the women, it just hits different. It sticks
28:36
Speaker 1: differently when it happens. Like I even thought twice about
28:40
Speaker 1: adding the Nicki Minaj conversation right after Cardi, even when
28:44
Speaker 1: I was preparing my notes. And the only reason why
28:46
Speaker 1: I thought twice about it is because I'm like, I
28:48
Speaker 1: don't want nobody to think that I'm comparing them in
28:50
Speaker 1: a way that they've been religiously compared, because we all
28:54
Speaker 1: know that they don't really care for each other. But
28:57
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have to, like it's history, Like we
29:00
Speaker 1: got to talk about one without talking about the other,
29:02
Speaker 1: and it would be so amazing if we could do
29:04
Speaker 1: it knowing that maybe we'll see them work together at
29:06
Speaker 1: some point. But I mean, we won't see that, and
29:08
Speaker 1: that's fine too. But when I read the never, my
29:13
Speaker 1: mom said never say never. That's true. But when I
29:15
Speaker 1: read the you know, you know, some of the background
29:18
Speaker 1: research that I was doing, and it mentioned the media
29:21
Speaker 1: driven competitiveness, I'm like wow, Like imagine how big it
29:27
Speaker 1: would be if we could see them two together. But
29:29
Speaker 1: also too, it's the conversation of like only one at
29:31
Speaker 1: a time, and I think that that is what causes
29:34
Speaker 1: issues like what we saw famously with Cardi b Nicki
29:38
Speaker 1: Minaj and you know other female rappers that whole one
29:42
Speaker 1: woman at a time narrative. When to be honest with you,
29:45
Speaker 1: like like I said, I remember, you know, summer twenty
29:48
Speaker 1: twenty four, Summer twenty twenty five, it was the girlies
29:51
Speaker 1: that was out here giving you all the music. Y'all
29:53
Speaker 1: was dancing to the anthems. It was the girlies. Like
29:56
Speaker 1: so when we support women in the conversations in the
29:59
Speaker 1: right way, the things get done. But also I think
30:03
Speaker 1: when you target that anger, like pastor Sara Jax Roberts
30:06
Speaker 1: are saying, you know exactly where it's supposed to go
30:08
Speaker 1: and with it and what it's supposed to do. So yeah,
30:11
Speaker 1: I just you know, after attending that church service and
30:17
Speaker 1: having the conversation, I also got a chance to ask
30:19
Speaker 1: to our question as well, which maybe we'll do a
30:24
Speaker 1: bonus episode about because I know, now we got to
30:25
Speaker 1: wrap this one up. We'll do that if you're listening
30:29
Speaker 1: to this going over and listen to the bonus audio
30:32
Speaker 1: of a private comment. Not private, It wasn't private of
30:34
Speaker 1: a question I got to ask Pastor Sara Jax Roberts
30:37
Speaker 1: about figuring out and standing in your greatness no matter
30:41
Speaker 1: what level you get to new levels and devils. But yeah,
30:45
Speaker 1: I just left that conversation Friday, and then I saw
30:50
Speaker 1: everything that CARTI did over the weekend and then support
30:52
Speaker 1: and I was just like, man, I gotta target my
30:56
Speaker 1: anger better. I don't know about y'all, because men and
30:58
Speaker 1: y'all could do this too. But late she said, if
31:02
Speaker 1: we target our anger at the right places, we literally disrupt,
31:05
Speaker 1: We move mountains, we change the world. I'm signing up
31:08
Speaker 1: to do it. Let me know if y'all joining me.
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Speaker 1: This has been another episode of the Latest with Laura
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Speaker 1: l Rosa. I am your host, Laura l Rosa, and
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Speaker 1: I tell you, guys, every single episode, you could be
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Speaker 1: with anybody anywhere talking about all of these things, but
31:21
Speaker 1: y'all choose to be right here with me, my lowriders.
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Speaker 1: I see you guys in my next episode. Hey, thanks Mom,