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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Diddy Jelly. Apparently Shawn Colmbs.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Explodes when assassin Luigi Mangioni arrives a Diddy tantrum.
- 0:18Speaker 1: He's refusing to leave.
- 0:20Speaker 2: His cell after he hears for the first time in life,
- 0:24Speaker 2: no jailhouse guards say no to his demands. As we learn,
- 0:29Speaker 2: ditty sex trolls scoping crowds for sex victims during parties.
- 0:34Speaker 2: This as damning ditty documentaries hit the airwaves. Who's taking
- 0:39Speaker 2: notes the Feds? I'm Nancy Grease, this is Crime Stories,
- 0:44Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.
- 0:46Speaker 3: A frenzy of documentaries purporting to tell the real story
- 0:49Speaker 3: of p Diddy as the infamous rapper and music mogul
- 0:52Speaker 3: sits behind bars.
- 0:55Speaker 2: The real story, my rear end. The real story is
- 0:57Speaker 2: going to be told in court. But regarding those documentaries,
- 1:03Speaker 2: as I said, who's taking notes the Feds? Don't you
- 1:08Speaker 2: know They've got some intern tasked with watching every one
- 1:11Speaker 2: of these documentaries hitting the air, trolling and combing every
- 1:16Speaker 2: single word for new evidence and or witnesses. It's happening
- 1:22Speaker 2: this after they all but guarantee there are going to
- 1:24Speaker 2: be more charges.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Speaking of the dogs, listen, Sean Colmes is a monster.
- 1:33Speaker 4: I want to speak about this now because I've witnessed everything.
- 1:37Speaker 5: I think Shawn Conbs can get away with anything.
- 1:42Speaker 2: That was the sentiment for many, many years that Shawn
- 1:46Speaker 2: Combs aka Diddy aka Puff Daddy aka Puff aka Puffy
- 1:51Speaker 2: aka Love It goes on and on that he could
- 1:55Speaker 2: get away with anything. And it was only after that
- 2:00Speaker 2: that Cassie Ventura video emerged of him beating, beating her,
- 2:05Speaker 2: chasing her down in a public hallway of a ritzy hotel.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Did defense finally finally do something? But they have?
- 2:16Speaker 2: You just saw that from Peacock's documentary special on Ditty,
- 2:20Speaker 2: The Making of a Bad Boy.
- 2:22Speaker 1: But there's more. Listen.
- 2:25Speaker 5: There were rumblings about Ditty's bad behavior for years.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Federal officers spent hours of moving firearms, computers, foxes.
- 2:34Speaker 6: And bags a massive show of force.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Cassie claimed Diddy was often violent. There's a lot of
- 2:40Speaker 1: things people fear. I know what's gone on, A whole lot.
- 2:44Speaker 5: Of people do.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Are we all perfect?
- 2:47Speaker 5: Nah?
- 2:48Speaker 1: It's a stunning downfall.
- 2:55Speaker 2: So I was taking notes right there about that one
- 2:57Speaker 2: female witness who she I want to know her name
- 3:00Speaker 2: and address?
- 3:01Speaker 1: And don't you know the Feds agree.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Now, that's from my friend Harvey Levin over at TMZ.
- 3:07Speaker 2: That documentary is called The Downfall of Didty, and that's
- 3:10Speaker 2: now streaming.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Free on TV.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Hey fans, you don't even have to buy a subscription
- 3:15Speaker 2: to see that one. Go ahead, get your legal pads
- 3:18Speaker 2: ready and start taking notes, you, federal prosecutor, interns and more.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Listen, this is.
- 3:24Speaker 2: The type of indictment you would expect from someone in
- 3:27Speaker 2: the mafia.
- 3:28Speaker 1: I don't know that I could keep him off the stand.
- 3:30Speaker 1: He is very eager to tell his story.
- 3:32Speaker 2: They're going to show that video over and over and
- 3:35Speaker 2: over about what happens to women that won't change their stories.
- 3:39Speaker 1: His reputation is over the United States government.
- 3:43Speaker 6: They start making this case as a takedown of a
- 3:46Speaker 6: successful black man. TMZ presents The Downfall of Ditty, the
- 3:51Speaker 6: indictment now streaming on two B.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Instead of sitting in his cell sulking and pouting and
- 3:57Speaker 2: antagonizing the guards and whining about Luigi Manngioni, the healthcare boss,
- 4:02Speaker 2: assassin getting excuse me, assassin, getting all the attention and
- 4:06Speaker 2: being crowned king of the jail cell, instead of that,
- 4:10Speaker 2: he needs to tell his lawyer to put a sock
- 4:12Speaker 2: in it because that lawyer anfellow just tipped his hand
- 4:16Speaker 2: about one direction in which the defense is going again.
- 4:19Speaker 2: That was from our friend Harvey Levin. Ever at TMZ
- 4:22Speaker 2: their doc The Downfall of Diddy, and it's free on
- 4:26Speaker 2: TB FEDS.
- 4:27Speaker 1: It's free.
- 4:28Speaker 2: You don't have to pay for it as a former FED, Okay,
- 4:31Speaker 2: they give you no money all right to prosecute your case.
- 4:34Speaker 1: You can get all those witnesses names for free. So
- 4:38Speaker 1: what does this mean?
- 4:39Speaker 2: Joining me in All Star panel to make sense of
- 4:41Speaker 2: what we are learning right now from all of the documentaries.
- 4:46Speaker 1: But let's just take a peek at one more.
- 4:48Speaker 7: Disturbing video that Showshan Jiddy Coombs kicking, shoving and dragging.
- 4:53Speaker 1: His actual finds.
- 4:54Speaker 6: If she was scared of him?
- 4:55Speaker 1: I think so?
- 4:56Speaker 6: Were you scared of him?
- 4:57Speaker 1: Yeah? My sense was that everybody around him he was
- 5:00Speaker 1: afraid of him.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Afraid of Shawn Hon Yeah, why because he's explosive.
- 5:04Speaker 6: Didn's Downfall now streaming on Hulu.
- 5:07Speaker 2: And another one that's for our friends at ABC did
- 5:11Speaker 2: his Downfall nightline. Jumping in on it again with me
- 5:16Speaker 2: and All a Star Panel.
- 5:17Speaker 1: I want to go first to long.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Time investigator and now colleague colleague Chris McDonough, Director Cold
- 5:26Speaker 2: Case Research, Cold Case Foundation, former homicide detective, worked over
- 5:31Speaker 2: three hundred homicides.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Weren't you also vice at one point? Chris?
- 5:38Speaker 6: Yes, I was, Nancy yep, okay years write that.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Also, this is where I found him after his twenty
- 5:45Speaker 2: five year career in l E law enforcement. He is
- 5:49Speaker 2: a star of a YouTube channel, The Interview Room. Chris,
- 5:54Speaker 2: how hard did we have to beat the streets to
- 5:58Speaker 2: find witnesses?
- 6:00Speaker 1: Talk about a polar vortex.
- 6:02Speaker 2: I remember being out on the street, literally banging on
- 6:06Speaker 2: doors with my investigator, trying to find witnesses. Of course
- 6:09Speaker 2: they could see us coming a mile away, pulling up
- 6:11Speaker 2: in our Crown Vic. Nobody would come to the door,
- 6:16Speaker 2: but we had to try. Right, the fans could just
- 6:19Speaker 2: sit back and watch all these documentaries. And by the way,
- 6:21Speaker 2: Caleb Brandley, Dana Mill, I'm talking about you girl and
- 6:24Speaker 2: your podcast A Trial of Diddy. But Chris McDonough, they're
- 6:28Speaker 2: getting witnesses handed over on a silver platter with all
- 6:32Speaker 2: of these documentaries. Hey, I wonder if Diddy's getting Hulu
- 6:36Speaker 2: by bars.
- 6:38Speaker 6: You know, Nancy, we talked about this on your show
- 6:41Speaker 6: multiple times. I mean, as you've been covering this case,
- 6:45Speaker 6: you know the problem here that he has, and you've
- 6:48Speaker 6: projected it that it was coming. His ego is so big,
- 6:53Speaker 6: and he's what we would call a power assertive offender
- 6:57Speaker 6: and he can't control it. But it goes to show
- 7:01Speaker 6: you how much intimidation factor he had into that ego
- 7:06Speaker 6: where he could control all of these people until he
- 7:09Speaker 6: was locked up.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick joining me, high profile California prosecutor, President founder
- 7:15Speaker 2: black Swan Verdicts, author of Why Bad Looks Good. Second
- 7:20Speaker 2: book Reading People, How to understand people and predict their behavior.
- 7:23Speaker 2: I like that one. You've got so many books. I
- 7:27Speaker 2: don't have time to talk about all of them, Wendy,
- 7:29Speaker 2: but thank you for being with us.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Wendy. What is agna Fello doing?
- 7:36Speaker 2: I mean, I know Combs has added on to his
- 7:39Speaker 2: defense team, but cardinal rule and you know, here's a
- 7:44Speaker 2: high profile lawyer that Nesa never says the word Bean
- 7:48Speaker 2: Broffman fire in trouble.
- 7:50Speaker 1: I would hire him. He's a street fighter, but he
- 7:52Speaker 1: never speaks to the press. Right.
- 7:55Speaker 2: So, first thing that the elected district attorney told me
- 7:58Speaker 2: once I got my own courtroom, don't talk to the
- 8:02Speaker 2: press about your cases. He said it in a nice way,
- 8:06Speaker 2: but that's you're shooting yourself in the foot by doing
- 8:11Speaker 2: that with all these dogs. And he keeps talking, he's
- 8:14Speaker 2: giving away, he's tipping his hand.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Oh, what the defense will be?
- 8:18Speaker 4: You know, we always used to say a closed mouth
- 8:21Speaker 4: gathers no foot, and that is a great idea in
- 8:24Speaker 4: mantra to live by when in fact, you're on the
- 8:27Speaker 4: defense side of a case that's so high profile or
- 8:30Speaker 4: even Nancy, when you're the prosecutor and you want to
- 8:33Speaker 4: make sure that the case is tried with integrity in
- 8:35Speaker 4: a courtroom, not in the court of public opinion, but
- 8:38Speaker 4: when you have such a high profile client. And I
- 8:41Speaker 4: used to be a criminal defense decades ago. But that's
- 8:44Speaker 4: the type of thing that you have to be very
- 8:46Speaker 4: careful about because everyone's looking and with much curiosity about
- 8:51Speaker 4: what the defense is going to be.
- 8:52Speaker 1: What could it possibly be?
- 8:54Speaker 4: If the prosecution is patterns make the predator, well, then
- 8:58Speaker 4: it's almost very difficult to try to figure out how
- 9:01Speaker 4: do you best counter all of that evidence? And like
- 9:05Speaker 4: you say, more every day, all you have to do
- 9:07Speaker 4: is watch these free YouTube channels. How are you going
- 9:10Speaker 4: to counter that? And if you have a plan, it's
- 9:12Speaker 4: probably not the wisest thing to say it in public,
- 9:15Speaker 4: even though the court of public opinion unfortunately expects something
- 9:20Speaker 4: from the defense.
- 9:20Speaker 1: That's the balance.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Hey, you know, I heard Agnefello blurt out, I can't
- 9:25Speaker 2: keep him off the stand.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Okay.
- 9:28Speaker 2: I don't want to help out Diddy because the evidence
- 9:31Speaker 2: is mounting against him. So who am I supposed to
- 9:34Speaker 2: believe all these women or him?
- 9:37Speaker 1: Okay, but.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Putting Sean Combs on the stand would be a prosecutor's
- 9:45Speaker 2: dream come true.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Dream come true. Go on, Agnafello, go ahead and put
- 9:52Speaker 1: it on this. Put him on the stand.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Although I don't know that Agnefello can stand up to
- 9:56Speaker 2: Shawn Combs in court. Comes might take the stand over
- 10:00Speaker 2: and the fellow's advice, that.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Said is ditty jelly.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Apparently Seawn Comb's jealous after the healthcare assassin Luigi Mangioni.
- 10:14Speaker 1: No love lost between me and Mangioni.
- 10:17Speaker 2: But that said, he's angry that Mangioni has apparently been
- 10:21Speaker 2: crowned miss Sweet Potato Queen at the MDC.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Listen.
- 10:25Speaker 8: Reports from sources inside Metropolitan Center say Diddy is furious
- 10:30Speaker 8: that alleged CEO murderer Luigi Mangioni is getting more attention
- 10:34Speaker 8: behind bars. Diddy has allegedly been throwing tantrums, claiming he
- 10:38Speaker 8: is innocent of sex trafficking, yet he continues getting so
- 10:42Speaker 8: much hate inside the lock up, while Luigi gets so
- 10:45Speaker 8: much love. Reports say, prisoners apparently love Mangioni, giving him
- 10:50Speaker 8: support and sharing their stories of losing loved ones due
- 10:54Speaker 8: to inadequate healthcare.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Any meenie, miney moe, Which baguy do I love the most?
- 11:00Speaker 1: That's what's happening behind bars? Are you kidding? Joining me?
- 11:04Speaker 2: Reporter at large for the Dailymail dot Com, also host
- 11:08Speaker 2: of have a brand new podcast that's hitting the charts,
- 11:11Speaker 2: The Trial of Ditty Caleb Brantley.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Is this real? Actually?
- 11:16Speaker 2: At first I thought no, somebody made that up. But
- 11:18Speaker 2: I can actually see Sean Combs angry. He's not the
- 11:23Speaker 2: king of the sale block anymore.
- 11:24Speaker 5: I mean, this is the crossover event of the century.
- 11:27Speaker 5: At the MDC. You have Diddy and Luigi Mangioni locked
- 11:31Speaker 5: up together. Our sources say that they haven't quite met yet,
- 11:35Speaker 5: though they do share a legal team, but that Diddy
- 11:38Speaker 5: is absolutely furious that he's been throwing tantrums and if anything,
- 11:42Speaker 5: this just goes to show his inflated ego and how
- 11:46Speaker 5: he feels. You know, he has the name Love that
- 11:49Speaker 5: he should be loved and adored. Meanwhile, Luigi allegedly shot
- 11:54Speaker 5: someone in cold blood on camera. So to Diddy, he
- 11:57Speaker 5: doesn't get it.
- 11:58Speaker 1: He's saying, you know, I am innocent.
- 12:01Speaker 5: Yet you have this guy allegedly on camera killing somebody.
- 12:05Speaker 5: How is he being revered as a hero and Diddy's
- 12:08Speaker 5: a villain too?
- 12:09Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw joining me, founder executive director Lynz Warriors, Who's
- 12:13Speaker 2: having none of this. Linn's Warriors is dedicated to eradicating
- 12:17Speaker 2: sex trafficking and the abuse of sex victims. Also host
- 12:23Speaker 2: of Linz Warriors on YouTube. Lynn Shaw, thank you for
- 12:26Speaker 2: being with us. What about this a celebrity hair fight
- 12:31Speaker 2: behind bars between Sean Combs and Luigi MANGIONI is.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Diddy jelly what? I've never heard anything like it in
- 12:40Speaker 1: my life, But apparently that's the word.
- 12:42Speaker 7: That's the word I'm hearing also. But I have to
- 12:44Speaker 7: tell you, Nancy, I'm disgusted. I'm disgusted with this whole thing.
- 12:48Speaker 7: Boo hoo hoo. This dirty ditty hot dog on a
- 12:52Speaker 7: bun in a jail cell. That's a lot more food
- 12:54Speaker 7: than victims and survivors we work with get served on
- 12:58Speaker 7: a daily basis. As far as Luigi, another distraction because
- 13:02Speaker 7: I live right down the street from where that horrible
- 13:05Speaker 7: event took place, and you know what, an hour later,
- 13:08Speaker 7: people were just walking over the spot in New York
- 13:10Speaker 7: City And this is what we're talking about and celebrating.
- 13:13Speaker 7: How about the focus. I ultimately believe this Diddy case
- 13:16Speaker 7: will come down to it's going to be very tough children,
- 13:19Speaker 7: minors where they brought over state lines sex trafficking. So
- 13:24Speaker 7: that's where I think everybody should be going in and
- 13:26Speaker 7: really trying to find victims, voices and hear their stories.
- 13:31Speaker 7: I realize everybody's coming out of the woodwork right now,
- 13:34Speaker 7: but a little too late. However, I think that's the angle.
- 13:38Speaker 7: Why why did everybody wait decades? What can you imagine
- 13:42Speaker 7: if one of these women came forward very quietly and tried,
- 13:46Speaker 7: Now they did, There were a couple of cases they
- 13:49Speaker 7: did say they tried, nobody would listen to them. Why
- 13:52Speaker 7: why can't we switch that up and go in and
- 13:54Speaker 7: find kids? Because so many have told me over the
- 13:58Speaker 7: decades about dirty and still nobody did anything about it.
- 14:03Speaker 7: I asked why.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Now I can tell you why, Lenshaw.
- 14:06Speaker 2: I know this may be hard for a lot of
- 14:07Speaker 2: people to believe, but I didn't speak out when I
- 14:11Speaker 2: was a prosecutor about a judge that hit on me
- 14:14Speaker 2: over and over and over. He walked me to my
- 14:17Speaker 2: car one night and actually kissed me right on the mouth.
- 14:22Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, did I complain?
- 14:27Speaker 1: I mean, I immediately, just in my car.
- 14:28Speaker 2: I went by and laughed and avoided him as much
- 14:31Speaker 2: as I could. But I feared for my cases. I
- 14:37Speaker 2: feared for my cases that if I complained, other judges
- 14:42Speaker 2: that were his friends would hold that against.
- 14:44Speaker 1: Me and take it out on my victims.
- 14:47Speaker 2: So I figured, one kiss on the lips, that's a
- 14:51Speaker 2: small price to pay for not worrying every time I
- 14:55Speaker 2: struck a jury, Is it right?
- 14:58Speaker 1: Hblel in, Oh, it's not right. I mean, I get it,
- 15:02Speaker 1: but I get it.
- 15:03Speaker 2: But Nancy, it was very much alive in me that
- 15:06Speaker 2: somehow my victims would suffer.
- 15:09Speaker 7: Yeah, But Nancy, and the wake of the last couple
- 15:11Speaker 7: of years in the Me Too movement, we should have
- 15:13Speaker 7: heard something a little bit more before this Cassi Ventura
- 15:16Speaker 7: video came out. I mean, I had women, but I
- 15:19Speaker 7: didn't have proof about any of this, that this was
- 15:22Speaker 7: actually happening, so I couldn't step forward. I urged them
- 15:25Speaker 7: and they would not do it. And I'm going back
- 15:27Speaker 7: again to Harvey Weinstein when all that was breaking open,
- 15:31Speaker 7: and they still wouldn't come forward. But if we had
- 15:33Speaker 7: just one one victim that would have come forward, I
- 15:37Speaker 7: have to ask again, it's very easy right now for
- 15:40Speaker 7: everybody to create specials and cash in on the dirty
- 15:43Speaker 7: ditty story. But where were they when all this was
- 15:46Speaker 7: going on. I remained, If we don't change the way
- 15:49Speaker 7: we think about victims survivors, we are not going to
- 15:53Speaker 7: get anywhere. And if this guy gets away with this,
- 15:56Speaker 7: I don't know, victims and survivors will never ever come
- 15:59Speaker 7: forward because they will see when somebody has power and
- 16:03Speaker 7: money and attention like this, they don't matter.
- 16:06Speaker 3: Shawn Comb's unhappy with you found attention garnered by suspected
- 16:10Speaker 3: CEO killer. Luigi Mangioni whispers from inside the MDC.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Not necessarily whispers anymore, it's full out being stated and
- 16:20Speaker 2: reported that Shawn Combs is jelly jealous.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Ever, Luigi Mangioni, Okay, I don't care about that, but I.
- 16:29Speaker 2: Find it really interesting that he's having his sulky powdy
- 16:33Speaker 2: stunts where he refuses to come out of his jail
- 16:36Speaker 2: because he's angry.
- 16:44Speaker 9: Crime stories with Nancy Grace Sean Diddy. Combs may be
- 16:52Speaker 9: feeling forgotten buying bars. The moguls holidays have been described
- 16:56Speaker 9: as bleak, with equally dismal holiday meals to match, including
- 16:59Speaker 9: a state acon g subserved on a hot dog Biden.
- 17:02Speaker 9: Combs missed his twins eighteenth first day, which they marked
- 17:05Speaker 9: with a casual yacht trip to Saint Bart's, and now
- 17:08Speaker 9: Combs isn't even the most high profile inmate at the MDC.
- 17:12Speaker 9: Comb's reportedly reeling over this support inmates show CEO killer
- 17:16Speaker 9: Luigi Mangioni while he's been shunned over federal sex trafficking allegations.
- 17:21Speaker 2: What is wrong with investigative reporter Davematt from Crime online
- 17:25Speaker 2: dot Com. He just said Combs's twins went to a
- 17:28Speaker 2: casual yacht trip to St to Saint Bart's.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Casual? What uh okay?
- 17:37Speaker 2: Let me go straight out to special guests joining us.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Doctor Dwayne Hendricks, former associate warden at Brooklyn's MDC Metropolitan
- 17:46Speaker 2: Detention Center.
- 17:48Speaker 1: He is the author of who Are You See It?
- 17:51Speaker 1: Say It, Seize It?
- 17:52Speaker 2: And he's got a website, guys, New day Lightfoundation dot com.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Doctor Hendrix, thank you for joining us. There's so much
- 18:01Speaker 2: more to your CVB.
- 18:03Speaker 1: I gotta get to dandy.
- 18:04Speaker 2: I can't read three pages of all of your accomplishments,
- 18:07Speaker 2: Doctor Hendricks. Did you hear that the wardens finally told
- 18:14Speaker 2: Sean Combs the dreaded n O. They got tired of
- 18:19Speaker 2: his stunts and he had a meltdown?
- 18:22Speaker 1: Hey, listen, doctor Hendricks.
- 18:24Speaker 10: Sources from the MDC claim Combs had a meltdown in
- 18:27Speaker 10: prison over the holidays, distraught that he remains behind bars.
- 18:31Speaker 10: A panished Combs reportedly begged guards to take him to
- 18:34Speaker 10: the prison hospital, claiming he was having a breakdown in
- 18:37Speaker 10: meet say, when guards refuse his request, the rapper spent
- 18:41Speaker 10: several hours using meditation techniques to calm himself down. Observers
- 18:45Speaker 10: at recent court hearings say prison and meal refusals appear
- 18:49Speaker 10: to be taking a toll on Combs, who looks astonishingly
- 18:52Speaker 10: thinner and grayer.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Again, all I can say is, of course he's thinner
- 18:58Speaker 2: and grayer. That's because he doesn't have a private chef
- 19:01Speaker 2: cooking every meal for him. Don't you recall a PR
- 19:05Speaker 2: guru that joined us a few weeks ago stated that
- 19:08Speaker 2: Shawn Comes would demand cheesecake at four am, and get it.
- 19:13Speaker 1: I mean that was just a tiny example. Of course,
- 19:16Speaker 1: he's thinner.
- 19:17Speaker 2: He's having to eat three regular meals like the rest
- 19:19Speaker 2: of us, and he's not being served on a silver platter,
- 19:22Speaker 2: and boohoo, killer Brantley, his gray is showing.
- 19:26Speaker 1: That's because he's not having a weekly touch up with
- 19:28Speaker 1: his private hair dresser. Am I supposed to feel bad
- 19:31Speaker 1: about that? Kila?
- 19:32Speaker 5: Well, Nancy, He's innocent until proven guilty, So no, you
- 19:36Speaker 5: don't have to feel bad.
- 19:37Speaker 2: But I like you, and I respect your podcasts, and
- 19:40Speaker 2: I respect how much work and research you put into
- 19:44Speaker 2: every single article, podcast appearance. But I didn't ask you that.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Of course, it goes without saying Sean Comes is presumed
- 19:55Speaker 2: he is innocent, not just presumed, he is innocent until
- 20:00Speaker 2: he has been proven guilty in a court of law
- 20:03Speaker 2: before a jury of his peers. That standard is very
- 20:09Speaker 2: high in a criminal case. It is beyond a reasonable doubt.
- 20:13Speaker 2: What is a reasonable doubt, calib Brantley. It is not
- 20:17Speaker 2: a mathematical certainty such as two and two equals four,
- 20:21Speaker 2: But it is not an improbability. It is a probability,
- 20:26Speaker 2: a doubt based on reason.
- 20:29Speaker 1: That's the only thing the state has to avoid. So
- 20:33Speaker 1: of course he's in a cent until proven guilty.
- 20:35Speaker 2: I ask you, why are people making a big deal
- 20:39Speaker 2: about him being thinner and grayer?
- 20:41Speaker 5: Well, I think there's just so much attention on this case,
- 20:44Speaker 5: and people are so curious about how someone's lifestyle can
- 20:48Speaker 5: just go from being you know, at the peak the
- 20:50Speaker 5: pinnacle you have everything, you have luxury, to then going
- 20:54Speaker 5: completely to bottom of the barrel. So for any random
- 20:57Speaker 5: Joe Schmoe who gets locked up, no, you know, eating
- 21:01Speaker 5: these three regular subpar meals a day is nothing, but
- 21:05Speaker 5: the interest is.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Dait a minute, wait wa, whoa whoa, whoa whoa? Hold on, little.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Girl, Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, I do not call steak on
- 21:15Speaker 2: a bun sub par. It's not tony, somebody would give
- 21:19Speaker 2: me steak on a bun.
- 21:21Speaker 1: What about it, Hendricks?
- 21:23Speaker 11: Well, apparently they must have run out of cheesesteaks. But
- 21:26Speaker 11: putting the meal on the hot dog bun. He just
- 21:28Speaker 11: needs to eat his meal and keep quiet in terms
- 21:33Speaker 11: of him out well, in terms of him having a
- 21:39Speaker 11: meltdown and telling the staff that he wants to go
- 21:41Speaker 11: to the hospital. I can tell you we used to
- 21:43Speaker 11: send inmates to the hospital for hangail. So apparently he's
- 21:47Speaker 11: just trying to get out of the institution and they're
- 21:50Speaker 11: just having no parts of it.
- 21:51Speaker 5: Uh.
- 21:52Speaker 11: There's a there's an old saying in prison, if you
- 21:54Speaker 11: mind your own you live long. So he needs to
- 21:56Speaker 11: stop worrying about Luigi MAGNGIONI gets focused on his particular
- 22:01Speaker 11: case because I'm also hearing that he refuses to leave
- 22:05Speaker 11: the cell to come down to the busiting room to
- 22:07Speaker 11: be served these additional lawsuits, and it's not going to
- 22:11Speaker 11: stop anything. It's going to delay it a little bit.
- 22:14Speaker 11: But he needs to get focused on what he needs
- 22:17Speaker 11: to do to fight for his freedom. Invite these allegations.
- 22:21Speaker 11: But the more he acts up, the more he panders,
- 22:24Speaker 11: and the more he cries, he just appears to be guilty.
- 22:28Speaker 11: And I know he's got to be proven guilty in
- 22:30Speaker 11: the court of law, but his actions are very devaike
- 22:34Speaker 11: and it's not winning him any friends in that institution
- 22:38Speaker 11: or any other future institution that he may find himself in.
- 22:42Speaker 2: The future, and you know what's interesting, Doctor Dwayne Hendrix
- 22:45Speaker 2: former says you a warden at NDC where Combs is housed.
- 22:50Speaker 2: In addition to that and being a doctor and an author,
- 22:56Speaker 2: I guess you're also clairvoyant listen.
- 22:59Speaker 9: In addition into refusing meals, there are reports that Sean
- 23:02Speaker 9: Diddy Combs refuses to leave his cell in order to
- 23:05Speaker 9: avoid being served with more lawsuits. Attorney Tony Buzby says
- 23:09Speaker 9: Combe's refusal to accept service in two cases has caused
- 23:12Speaker 9: significant delays, resulting in canceled hearings with three new accusers. Finally,
- 23:17Speaker 9: in the last three weeks, the mogul is now facing
- 23:19Speaker 9: forty one individual lawsuits, all but one alleging sexual assault.
- 23:26Speaker 3: Didy's latest court hearing reveals the rapper appearing thinner and
- 23:30Speaker 3: grayer as he awaits his twenty twenty five trial for
- 23:33Speaker 3: sex trafficking charges.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Boohoo, no private chef.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Back to doctor Dwayne Hendricks, former associate warden at NDC
- 23:43Speaker 2: Metropolitan Detention Center where Comb's is housed, and to his chagrin,
- 23:50Speaker 2: Luigi Manngioni, the alleged healthcare assassin.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Who many people are saying he's a new.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Hot fello and blah blah. Okay, back to you, doctor Hendrix.
- 24:01Speaker 2: There is a certain honor among thieves, let me just
- 24:05Speaker 2: put it ephemistically, where inmates stick together unless they're offered
- 24:11Speaker 2: a sweet deal from prosecutors. But when the inmates turn
- 24:14Speaker 2: on you, you're up the creek without a paddle. I
- 24:18Speaker 2: wonder when Combs first came whether the inmates were starstruck. Okay,
- 24:25Speaker 2: I mean it's a multi multi millionaire, some people claim
- 24:28Speaker 2: billionaire who everybody's heard of. But then after a while,
- 24:34Speaker 2: the honeymoon is over, and his constant antics and whining,
- 24:40Speaker 2: demanding a tablet, wanting special food every other day, wanting
- 24:45Speaker 2: to go to the sick war, angry and sulking that
- 24:47Speaker 2: he's not already out of jail. That wears pretty thin
- 24:51Speaker 2: on everyone around you. What about it, doctor Hendrix.
- 24:55Speaker 11: You're absolutely correct, And in terms of inmates being starstruck,
- 25:00Speaker 11: may have lasted five minutes, because after that, it makes
- 25:03Speaker 11: me give a rat's nostril about your status other than
- 25:07Speaker 11: the fact that what they can get out of you.
- 25:09Speaker 11: So unfortunately, he'll probably be extorted at some point if
- 25:12Speaker 11: he's not already, and if he's causing any issues or concerns.
- 25:18Speaker 11: You know, sometimes they'll ask the staff to get them
- 25:21Speaker 11: off the unit, or they'll they'll say, hey, he's got
- 25:23Speaker 11: to go, or something may happen to him. So he
- 25:26Speaker 11: right now, I'm assuming he's probably in the unit with
- 25:30Speaker 11: inmates that are probably not violent in nature. But at
- 25:33Speaker 11: some point, if he is convicted of his crimes and
- 25:37Speaker 11: he goes to a prison, if he carries his behavior
- 25:40Speaker 11: with him where he may end up going, he's going
- 25:44Speaker 11: to have a really hard time surviving because again, if
- 25:47Speaker 11: he's convicted, these victims will receive a large payout, and
- 25:52Speaker 11: I don't know how much money he'll have left over
- 25:54Speaker 11: to pay for protection because he's not getting affiliated or
- 25:57Speaker 11: anything like that. Because again, he's painting himself as a
- 26:01Speaker 11: CEO and as someone as a businessman. So he's going
- 26:05Speaker 11: to have to pick his path, and right now, the
- 26:08Speaker 11: way he's behaving is not going to look very well
- 26:12Speaker 11: for him in the future.
- 26:13Speaker 2: You know, you said something earlier, doctor Hendrix about his
- 26:17Speaker 2: refusing to come out of a sell and sulking in
- 26:19Speaker 2: there as being a delay tactic so he can't get
- 26:23Speaker 2: served lawsuits on other cases that are mounting.
- 26:28Speaker 1: How do you do that behind bars? I mean, can't
- 26:30Speaker 1: they just hand you the documents in your jail cell.
- 26:34Speaker 11: No, nat See, each state has rules on process serving
- 26:37Speaker 11: and as far as in the prison setting, as long
- 26:39Speaker 11: as the process service follows the rules for visitation of
- 26:43Speaker 11: the institution, there's no inmates they can refuse to come
- 26:47Speaker 11: to a visit, whether it's his family, friends, or associates,
- 26:50Speaker 11: so he does not have to leave his unit to
- 26:53Speaker 11: come down to the visiting room. However, once the process
- 26:57Speaker 11: servers have done all that they can can do and
- 27:00Speaker 11: they went through that process, obviously, we know he has
- 27:04Speaker 11: a team of attorneys retained, so at this point they're
- 27:07Speaker 11: probably going to serve his legal team, and I think
- 27:11Speaker 11: that's I know this to be a little bit of
- 27:13Speaker 11: a delay in terms of the process of the lawsuits,
- 27:16Speaker 11: but at some point his legal team will be served
- 27:19Speaker 11: these papers, and this uh, these losses will move forward
- 27:23Speaker 11: without him officially being served. Behind bars.
- 27:26Speaker 3: A frenzy of documentaries purporting to tell the real story
- 27:29Speaker 3: of p Diddy as the infamous rapper and music mogul
- 27:32Speaker 3: sits behind bars.
- 27:34Speaker 2: When Diddy Sean Combe's Puff Daddy Puff Love was first
- 27:40Speaker 2: arrested and the federal indictment was revealed, we all discussed
- 27:47Speaker 2: the possibility that cohorts aka friends would have the choice
- 27:53Speaker 2: to either turn co defendant witness, unnamed conspirator. Well, it's
- 28:01Speaker 2: all come true.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Listen.
- 28:02Speaker 10: As many predicted, it appears Sean Comb's inner circle is
- 28:05Speaker 10: turning against him. An upcoming Peacock documentary, The Making of
- 28:10Speaker 10: a Bad Boy, a former makeup artist, intern bodyguard, and
- 28:13Speaker 10: both childhood and industry friends are recounting Ditty's eyebrow raising behavior.
- 28:19Speaker 10: Many of the associates interviewed for the doc chose to
- 28:21Speaker 10: remain anonymous, including a man who claims underage women were
- 28:25Speaker 10: frequently in attendance at parties where red lights came on
- 28:29Speaker 10: to indicate sex was happening.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
- 28:32Speaker 2: Caleb Brandley joining me, investigative reporter at large with the
- 28:36Speaker 2: biggest website apparently in the world, dailymail dot Com, and
- 28:40Speaker 2: star of the Trial of Ditty podcast Kill Again.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. What everybody knew? I
- 28:48Speaker 1: hated that when I.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Would be working up a case and I'd be talking
- 28:51Speaker 2: to the witness and then say, well, everybody knows. Everybody
- 28:54Speaker 2: knows is not admissible in court. Just because everybody knows
- 28:59Speaker 2: it doesn't.
- 29:00Speaker 1: I mean, I can bring it in front of a jury.
- 29:02Speaker 1: But what is this.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Everybody knows that when Sean Combs would turn on a
- 29:08Speaker 2: red light, he was having sex and to stay away.
- 29:12Speaker 5: Nancy. I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say
- 29:14Speaker 5: it many times again. This was all an open secret
- 29:18Speaker 5: in Hollywood. You hear everyone coming out saying, oh, yeah,
- 29:22Speaker 5: Diddy's parties were crazy, and they used to say it
- 29:24Speaker 5: at the time. You know, there are videos that have
- 29:27Speaker 5: come up of people saying, oh, you know what happens
- 29:29Speaker 5: at Diddy parties. So it was all there in front
- 29:32Speaker 5: of us. It's just now when there's finally an indictment
- 29:36Speaker 5: that it's coming in the legal form. So like you're
- 29:39Speaker 5: seeing in these documentaries, they are with unidentified people. One
- 29:43Speaker 5: woman she said that they said they could ship me
- 29:46Speaker 5: off and sell me to anyone. And then you have
- 29:48Speaker 5: this other unidentified man coming forward saying if the red
- 29:52Speaker 5: light's on, that means their sex happening with Ditty and
- 29:56Speaker 5: there are underage girls. So again, if these claims are true,
- 30:01Speaker 5: did he did not act a.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Lot crime stories with Nancy Grace?
- 30:15Speaker 1: I am telling you what.
- 30:17Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick, prosecutor, author star of Today with Doctor Wendy
- 30:24Speaker 2: KCBQ San Diego, Wendy, I know a lot of people
- 30:30Speaker 2: have a prurient interest in what we're talking about. I
- 30:34Speaker 2: see it all as evidence. I can't help it. That's
- 30:36Speaker 2: how I'm programmed. Now, what jar that has a daughter,
- 30:41Speaker 2: a sister, a granddaughter, a wife is going to sit
- 30:46Speaker 2: by and hear evidence that Diddy would actually turn on
- 30:50Speaker 2: a red light for people to say to see to
- 30:53Speaker 2: warn them away that he was having sex purportedly with
- 30:57Speaker 2: a minor.
- 31:01Speaker 1: I'm flabbergasted.
- 31:02Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, Nancy, this is going to be the
- 31:05Speaker 12: brutal reality of finally moving this very sordid tale into
- 31:09Speaker 12: a court of law instead of trying it in the
- 31:12Speaker 12: court of public opinion.
- 31:13Speaker 4: And when you talk about the reality of how modern jurors,
- 31:17Speaker 4: regardless of who they are, they know someone whether it's
- 31:19Speaker 4: a family member, a friend, a coworker, who they worry
- 31:23Speaker 4: might be victimized in this fashion who they worry might
- 31:26Speaker 4: have been, because this is another illustration of safety in
- 31:30Speaker 4: numbers only. When the dominoes began to fall, much like
- 31:34Speaker 4: Harvey Weinstein and others at the beginning of the revival
- 31:36Speaker 4: of the Me Too movement in twenty seventeen. Only when
- 31:40Speaker 4: others began coming forward were we exposed to what was
- 31:44Speaker 4: really going on in this glamorized subculture. We'll call it
- 31:48Speaker 4: that because there's wilful blindness, no doubt among some of
- 31:51Speaker 4: is we'll call them unindicted co conspirators that they saw
- 31:54Speaker 4: it and did nothing. But anybody that might have witnessed
- 31:58Speaker 4: what in retrospect they should have known or did know
- 32:01Speaker 4: was just brutally illegal exploitive conduct of minors. All of
- 32:07Speaker 4: that is going to come to light in a court
- 32:09Speaker 4: of law. And you know, as far as the antics
- 32:11Speaker 4: behind bars right now, all that that's going to be
- 32:14Speaker 4: is a distraction. We want jers in that courtroom to
- 32:16Speaker 4: hear from people that were there, who knew, who saw,
- 32:20Speaker 4: and that's going to be very explosive. And you know,
- 32:23Speaker 4: the trial's coming up in May, so we're going to
- 32:25Speaker 4: have to wait till then to see who does come forward.
- 32:28Speaker 4: But yes, it is not going to be pretty when
- 32:30Speaker 4: this all shakes out in a court of law.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw, Founder executive director Lynn's Warriors. Lynn, that is
- 32:36Speaker 2: so brazen, if true, that Combs would actually turn on
- 32:42Speaker 2: a red light visible from the outside of the bedroom
- 32:46Speaker 2: to warm people he was having underage sex and to
- 32:49Speaker 2: not come in.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Just imagine it.
- 32:52Speaker 2: I mean, I've got a teen girl and a teen
- 32:54Speaker 2: boy who I believe anyway are innocence. Okay, imagine sitting
- 33:02Speaker 2: on a jury. I mean, it's making my blood boil
- 33:05Speaker 2: just thinking.
- 33:06Speaker 1: About the brazen nature of warning everybody don't come in,
- 33:11Speaker 1: and they all just stood by and let it hoppen. Limb.
- 33:14Speaker 7: Everybody's blood should be boiling with this spoiled bad boy.
- 33:19Speaker 7: I mean, after all, he called his company bad Boy Entertainment.
- 33:22Speaker 7: He told us who he was and is, and you
- 33:26Speaker 7: know what distraction? Distraction distraction with these.
- 33:29Speaker 1: I will come out of my cell.
- 33:30Speaker 7: I don't want the peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I
- 33:33Speaker 7: want to remind everybody January is National Human Trafficking Awareness
- 33:36Speaker 7: and Prevention Month. Let's really talk about that. Let's really
- 33:41Speaker 7: talk about the kids, Let's really talk about the education there.
- 33:44Speaker 7: Maybe how if we can root out behind the scenes
- 33:47Speaker 7: the miners, the women that were involved in this and
- 33:50Speaker 7: protect them so they will talk, we can have some
- 33:53Speaker 7: lessons learned from this whole thing. This cannot continue.
- 33:56Speaker 13: Philip Pines, a former personal wacky for Sean Comb's claims,
- 33:59Speaker 13: in lawsuit that he was tasked with setting up for
- 34:02Speaker 13: Wild King Knights at hotels, which involved bringing red lights,
- 34:06Speaker 13: ice buckets, alcohol, marijuana, joints, honey packs for male libido,
- 34:11Speaker 13: baby oil, astro glide, towels, illegal drugs, and powered sex
- 34:16Speaker 13: toys to Combs's room for sometimes days long escapades. Pines
- 34:20Speaker 13: says he was expected to be on call for any
- 34:22Speaker 13: additional needs during the exploits, and Combs even pressured him
- 34:26Speaker 13: to join afterwards. Pines was charged with cleaning up the mess,
- 34:30Speaker 13: deleting any incriminating photos or video from Combs's devices, and
- 34:34Speaker 13: leaving hotel staff large tips to avoid paying extra bills
- 34:38Speaker 13: for damages.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Oh my stars, I am my investigator.
- 34:44Speaker 2: Ernest would be all over this guy, Like, why on
- 34:48Speaker 2: rice did you hear that?
- 34:51Speaker 1: Kileibrowley dailymail dot com.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Philip Pines, who worked directly with Combs, claims and a
- 35:00Speaker 2: lawsuit that he was tasked with setting up Wild King
- 35:06Speaker 2: Nights at hotels bringing the red lights.
- 35:09Speaker 1: That must be where this information is coming from?
- 35:11Speaker 2: About the red lights, ice buckets, alcohol, marijuana, honey packs
- 35:15Speaker 2: for men to keep an erection, baby oil, astro glide, towels, drugs, sex, toys.
- 35:23Speaker 2: He would be on call throughout for this isn't the
- 35:29Speaker 2: right word sex parties. I don't think all the women
- 35:32Speaker 2: thought it was a.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Party that would last for days.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Then he would have to clean up and tip everybody
- 35:39Speaker 2: at the hotel to avoid extra bills for all the damage.
- 35:44Speaker 1: Oh man, I'd put this guy under lock and.
- 35:47Speaker 2: Key, I do whatever I had to do to get
- 35:49Speaker 2: him on deposition, you name it, so he can't get
- 35:53Speaker 2: out of his testimony or face charges of perjury.
- 35:57Speaker 5: Is this completely in line with everything else we've been
- 36:00Speaker 5: hearing these very orchestrated parties, That it took a lot
- 36:04Speaker 5: of planning, a lot of baby oil which was found
- 36:08Speaker 5: at his home, and took a lot of people to
- 36:12Speaker 5: really get this going. And then not only was it
- 36:15Speaker 5: the prep, there were people during the parties that were
- 36:18Speaker 5: on call, and then even the people after to make
- 36:21Speaker 5: sure things were cleaned up, which makes everything look again
- 36:25Speaker 5: like an orchestrated experience. And you have people getting Ditty's
- 36:31Speaker 5: phone to delete anything incriminating, so again with knowledge that
- 36:35Speaker 5: this was an illegal act or at least very damaging
- 36:39Speaker 5: to his reputation, to delete any evidence. So again this
- 36:44Speaker 5: shows that this was not just didty acting alone, that
- 36:47Speaker 5: it was an orchestrated process.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Well, there's more, all of these people now speaking out
- 36:54Speaker 2: in various lawsuits in these documentaries, And what about allegations
- 37:00Speaker 2: that Combs would actually hire party sex trolls to scope
- 37:04Speaker 2: out under age victims.
- 37:06Speaker 9: Listen, Sean Ditty Combs reportedly hired a team of men
- 37:09Speaker 9: to patrol his parties for possible hookups for the mogul.
- 37:12Speaker 9: A woman only identified as Lisa say she was separated
- 37:16Speaker 9: from her music exec husband speaking with a friend at
- 37:19Speaker 9: a two thousand and four Ditty White party when a
- 37:21Speaker 9: man approached the women inviting them to hang out with
- 37:24Speaker 9: Combs after the event. When the man said it would
- 37:27Speaker 9: be intimate time, Lisa got a bad feeling and refused,
- 37:30Speaker 9: but her friend did attend. Afterwards, she refused to speak
- 37:34Speaker 9: about the experience, only saying she should not have gone.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Chris McDonough joining me, not only former homicide detective three
- 37:42Speaker 1: hundred homicides under his belt, but former vice Chris McDonough.
- 37:46Speaker 1: These documentaries and.
- 37:47Speaker 2: These lawsuits are handing over witnesses to the Feds on
- 37:51Speaker 2: a silver platter on top of the Christmas tree for
- 37:55Speaker 2: Pete's sake, And what is boggling to me is that
- 37:59Speaker 2: people stood by and let this happen. You know, you've
- 38:04Speaker 2: got party sextuals going out and trying to rope in
- 38:08Speaker 2: women to have intimate time with Sean Combs. After the
- 38:12Speaker 2: party in chief, you have a hitch person paying off
- 38:17Speaker 2: hotel security and cleaning up and deleting incriminating cell video.
- 38:22Speaker 2: I mean, you know what, as I've told the twins,
- 38:26Speaker 2: you smell a joint, you leave.
- 38:29Speaker 1: That's it.
- 38:30Speaker 2: Why can people stand by and let this happen to victims?
- 38:35Speaker 6: You know, that's a great question, Nancy. But what it's
- 38:39Speaker 6: revealing is as these individuals start to roll on him
- 38:43Speaker 6: the signature that he utilized, i e. Power control, you know,
- 38:48Speaker 6: that assertiveness. Remember, his goal through this whole situation has
- 38:52Speaker 6: always been about leaving trauma and physical and emotional abuse
- 38:59Speaker 6: to his victim. Homology here, this guy could care less
- 39:03Speaker 6: about women, about children. And as these individuals roll, like
- 39:09Speaker 6: doctor Hendrick said a little bit ago, he has to
- 39:12Speaker 6: be very careful because you started adding the dynamics of
- 39:16Speaker 6: pedophilia into this play, There's going to be a lot
- 39:19Speaker 6: of guys loading socks with you know, soap in the
- 39:23Speaker 6: jail system. That will give him something else to think about. Schoel.
- 39:27Speaker 6: He's on very very thin ice. As this goes forward,
- 39:31Speaker 6: you know.
- 39:32Speaker 2: Karen start joining me, high profile psychologists joining us from Manhattan. Today, Karen,
- 39:37Speaker 2: I've put many a witness on the stand, and.
- 39:40Speaker 1: I just had a hole my nose.
- 39:43Speaker 2: You know, all the witnesses are not going to be
- 39:45Speaker 2: nuns and priests and virgins, as you've heard me say
- 39:47Speaker 2: a million times, but witnesses that were there that stood
- 39:53Speaker 2: by and did nothing when this was happening. You know, sometimes, Karen,
- 39:59Speaker 2: you got to go to hell to get the witness
- 40:01Speaker 2: to put the devil in jail.
- 40:03Speaker 1: And that's what's happening right here.
- 40:04Speaker 14: Yeah, they're going to have to use people who participate
- 40:06Speaker 14: in Nancy, But it really does show you the power
- 40:09Speaker 14: that this guy had, his ability, the narcissism, that he
- 40:14Speaker 14: was able to break the law to do things and
- 40:16Speaker 14: get people to do these things for him. So many
- 40:20Speaker 14: people were terrified of his power and what the repercussions
- 40:25Speaker 14: would be.
- 40:26Speaker 6: And so yeah, they're going to.
- 40:27Speaker 14: Have to get a lot of people who participated, But
- 40:30Speaker 14: I get it because he was so strong and powerful.
- 40:36Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,