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11. Residual Hauntings and Possessed 14 Year Olds · Amigos, Afraid!

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Guys, Jerry's having a good day. Guys, I don't know what I'm
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doing. Hi everyone.
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Tell him. Tell him everything that
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happened to you today. So we, Brian and I, take weeks
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to prepare for any content, any research that we put together.
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It's a. Really long practice.
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Takes a long time and today I was finalizing said notes.
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And he spent weeks on. Week remember weeks honestly, at
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this point, I think it it might have been like at least a month
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yeah. So that's minimum.
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So I am I'm finalizing doing the last minute touches.
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I'm I'm adding fonts. At this point I'm just like, you
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know, changing some titles to like.
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The time details just little details.
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What does my notes decide to do? Disappear.
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How? I have no idea.
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I tried like going to my recently deleted, not nowhere to
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be found. So I had to redo all of my notes
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in 30 minutes. Yeah, less so.
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That was fun. And then right now I'm like
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flustered because I tried to get some coffee and then I tried to
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sit down. I put one of the legs on the the
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wing. Scale.
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I have like a yeah, a random like scale just in the corner of
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my room. Jerry decides to sit on it.
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I sat on the little corner and like it.
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Just like Won't and I fell off and now we're here.
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Now you're here. Yeah, now you're here.
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You're here with us. You're here sitting in our room
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while we record the Daily BJ. BJ Podcast, Oh my God with your
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hosts Brian and Jerry in. Case you forgot.
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They're like, wait. They're like, that's what I've
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been listening to. This whole time Brandon and
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Jeremiah see it doesn't work. It doesn't work.
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It's. Not Bryce and Jedediah.
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Exactly, exactly. It doesn't.
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It just doesn't work. It doesn't sound as Brian and
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Jerry. Your name's not even Jerry.
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It's not even doesn't even start with AJ.
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Or does it? I don't know.
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I've never seen his license. Actually.
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It did see your license or the weekend we had a little BBQ at
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our friend Lizette's house, so we had all our friends there.
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We were reuniting. I.
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Left my wallet on. The table, we were playing with
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water balloons and we were doing like a dodgeball fight.
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And I got out pretty early. I got smacked with a water
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bottle. I'm like la, la, la, la.
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I'm gonna go water bottle, drinks.
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I mean not water bottle, water balloon.
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Who's throwing water bottles? First of all, hold up.
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And I'm walking around, gonna go get my drink and see a wallet
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just sitting there. And I'm like, who's this?
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And I open it to see who's it is.
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And there it is. You know, ID.
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Yeah, he looks so young. I do 21.
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I think it was like 21 or 22 right there.
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That's better than mine. I just pierced my ears, so I
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have the little studs. So I was like, I got, I think I
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got this for my 21st birthday. Wow.
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Yeah, growing up. My picture is of me at 18 years
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old so mine is a stark difference now and I see the
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hesitation sometimes when they when I give them my ID they do a
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huh, He has a beard now. He's a little thick.
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Can I see it? Yeah, it's actually conveniently
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enough, my ID's just, my wallet's just there.
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Condoms. Yep.
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Yep. No, you can't keep those in your
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wallet. If you do that, please get rid
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of it. It's probably all nasty now.
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I'll. Tell you this this 18 year old
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Brian do. We even have glasses.
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There no glasses. I see.
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I see it like I totally see it. Your hair's a little longer.
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Obviously you have no beard, no glasses.
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You look like a kid. You look like a child.
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I. Was.
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You look like a sophisticated man.
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Now I. Do I think I was freshly like 18
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in that photo? I think I had turned 18 and got
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my license like within the month.
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The amount of face facial hair you have in this picture is
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equivalent to me at 27 that can't grow facial hair.
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It's OK one day, me ho, one day. It's not for everyone, but
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anyways, how you doing? How you guys doing?
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Welcome back. Welcome back.
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Hope you guys loved last week's episode.
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I did. I was thinking about it again
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today. Loved that episode.
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The tarot card at the end, Jerry, like, right.
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Even thinking about it today, my jaw dropped.
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I was doing research because I'm like, what are the chances?
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It's like 1 in 70 something. Yep, I saw that as soon as I got
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home and I forgot about that. But Yep, that's so hard to do.
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One in 72 chances of picking up the same card and I fumble it
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when I tried to pick it out. I didn't like grab it in like
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automatic. No, I was.
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Like you struggle? To pull it and I was like and
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then I ended up pulling that one.
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Crazy crazy. If y'all didn't like it,
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honestly we loved it so does not matter.
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I'm just kidding. It's my favorite.
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Episode so far it is. Until now.
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Until now. Because we have we have some
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surprises for you guys in the future.
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We have something different. Yes.
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Not this episode. Maybe the next one, maybe the
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next one. We are man of our word.
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If we say we're going to try something, we are going to
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commit. Are these men in the room with
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us? I think 1 is you can speak for
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yourself. Actually you're the one married.
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You know about commitment, you got that lifelong commitment.
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But just just keep your keep your ears peeled and maybe your
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eyes. You know, you know that one
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trick where like you lick your finger and then you put it up to
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the air? What does that teach you?
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It's just like where wind direction is going to or where
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it's coming from. It might be blowing from the
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east, from the oceans, the. Oceans to the West.
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Oh, wait. Or is it?
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Oh yes, that's in the West. Dang it, Dang it.
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It's OK. Just just sit down, relax, feel
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that sea breeze. See what's in store?
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Yeah, just wait and see. We just need you to hop aboard
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and join us on a journey that we had recently.
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There once was a man who didn't see the name was an ALTE.
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Thank you. Anyways, in order to prep for
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that, we're going to come at you today with some more
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supernatural information. Let's deep dive into two
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specific realms of the paranormal.
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Like TV that. Paranormal like TV, that
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paranormal way better. Translates correctly.
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No, it has to and it sounds way better than Paranormal Activity.
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Yeah, for some reason we've been on a ghost kick.
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There's something about a gooey, spooky feeling that sends
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shivers down your spine, and I just.
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OK, nevermind, that's for later. Oh yeah, something else that
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just came up right now. OK, I'm excited.
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I got a feeling that tonight's going to be a good night.
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I hope it. Is tonight's going to be Nope.
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Copyright. Just kidding.
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So this week we want to talk about different kinds of ghostly
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experiences. But first I would like to
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preface or ask, have you ever had a experience like any kind
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of ghost experience? That feeling I just had right
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now is for this. So yes, I have.
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OK, I'm glad I asked so I knew. 2nd.
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I have two you have. 2 ghost stories Jerry we've known each
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other this long and you've never.
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I've told you both of them. Oh, oh, wow, Brian, matter of
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fact here. I want Brian to tell me the
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experiences that I've relayed in the past.
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Well, the first one was when Jerry was 11 years old, living.
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No, he might have been 12 or 13 and he was living in Tijuana
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and. I'm.
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Sorry, Fred, I don't. Remember, no, no, just kidding.
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I'm just kidding. It's fine.
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So the, the moment I just had it right now was because I
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experienced one like 2-3 years ago that like, well, to this day
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I like, I, I forgot about it. So right now I was like, wow,
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I've been thinking about it this whole time of an experience that
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I've had and I just remembered that one.
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But for I'm going to tell you the one that I experienced as a
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kid. Oh, that's always scarier.
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I think I want to say I was around like 1011 because I was
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like of the older siblings, cousins, but then there was
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still like 2-3 of them that were older than I was and then 2/3.
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That were I remember the story, it came back to me.
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Does it have to do with Emmanuel's house?
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My grandma's house. Oh, OK, yeah.
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So we, you know, my, my grandma, my Tia, my Tia, They, they were
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the like, I guess one of the first ones that like moved out
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to like Rialto, the middle of fucking nowhere in those suburbs
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out there. And, you know, we were kids.
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So we when we'd come up to our like monthly, it was a.
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It was a spend of the night, it was.
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A yeah, all the way over there in Rialto, which is like.
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That is my grandma. San Bernardino, first of all,
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not LA, but we would go all the way over there.
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And I remember driving out there, it's pitch black, 'cause
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there's only like Suburbans there, suburbs there, suburbs
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there. And then just like long streets
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with like 1 like lamppost here. One over there every other mile.
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Dark as hell, but anyways, so we'd get there. two-story house,
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like more than like four or five bedrooms in the mansion.
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Yeah, it was one of those like sick houses with a pool in the.
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Back that land. Great.
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So during parties, during weekends, we'd have parties, a
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lot of us, a lot of the cousins would sleep over.
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We'd play throughout the throughout the day, throughout
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the night, whatever. So one of those like just
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memories, childhood memories. I don't remember half of this
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story, but there is multiple sources AKA my cousins that
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confirm that it was me. It's all coming back to me now
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because. I've told you this.
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Time I remember. Myself, it's probably my brother
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Al and I, my cousin Brenda, cousin Sydney, like just a bunch
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of my cousins were playing hide and go seek.
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And this is a house where like the house was like there was no
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off limits, you know, as long as it was inside the house, you
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could hide anywhere. I remember like I was hiding and
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then Brenda specifically was hiding like like under the
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table, but on the chairs where you're laying on, on a bunch of
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chairs and like they're all scooted in and stuff.
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So you're like good hiding spot, great hiding spot, whatever.
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We're all hiding and stuff. And at this point, I think I was
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found already. So I was just like chilling, not
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telling whoever was like searching where people were at.
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And then I hear like, like Brenda, like I saw you like you
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can come out like I saw you upstairs.
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And they're like, what? Like, and they're like, come on,
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like we found you just come down.
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And then we hear Brenda from this, from the from should I be
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saying names? I can't.
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I can't. I can believe them if you want.
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So then my cousin comes out and she's like, I'm right here.
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What do you mean? And then like just I remember my
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cousins. I don't know if it was someone,
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but like just stone faced her like whoa, like I just saw
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someone like run. Like I thought it was you creepy
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house, the garage super fucking cold.
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The room right next to the garage super fucking cold all
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the time. I figured it was because the AC
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was on or something, but I mean central AC and like those two
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places, like or the coldest places and nowhere else.
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Like it doesn't make sense, doesn't make sense.
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And like sure, it can get cold in the garage, but like no,
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things are insulated. Like it wouldn't get that
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fucking cold. This room was cold as fuck
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anyways. So we're like what the fuck?
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So then who was up there? And at this point everyone comes
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out and we're like no, what the hell.
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Like we're all here, like who's up there?
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And we're like to this day, multiple like of my cousins
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swear that I went up and I do remember going up, but I don't
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remember I, I remember going up the stairs to check.
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I'm like, oh, I'll, I'll go. And I went, I don't remember
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like the top of the stairs down the hallway.
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I don't remember any of that. They said, they said that I went
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up and I went to the hallway and I went like into the hallways
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where you can't see me anymore. And then I just come back saying
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like, no, there's no one here. I don't remember any of that
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shit, but I come down and to this day that freaks me out
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'cause I'm like, you know, like those movies were like a fucking
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shadow figure attacks you, then you lose consciousness and you
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wake up. And that's what I like.
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That's what it feels like to me. And I'm like, no, that didn't
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happen. But creepy, creepy stuff.
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Like if you were to see this house and like, it was really
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nice. It was like one of the modern
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ones and stuff, but still. Creepy.
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So wait, so who? I'm not blipping out names.
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There's too many. Yeah, Don't.
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Who saw the shadow where they thought it was your other?
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I want to say it was either like Adonai or like our cousin Eric
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or. Or and that's why you went
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upstairs, because they swore someone went running, they said.
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Someone pat like ran past and they thought it was Brenda
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'cause I guess it was like a girl or something.
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Haunted scary girls. Yeah, so there was that one that
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was like my first one where I'm like, damn, that that story
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we're being reminded by like my cousins stuff like it freaks me
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out a little bit. But two years ago, 2-3 years
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ago, I wasn't, I was working at, at A, at a school or middle
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school and it was elementary school, but I was on the middle
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school side at the end of my shift, you know, I'm closing up
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at 6:30. It was one of like the early
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dark days. So like by 6 it's already like
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really like. So like in the winter, like in
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the middle? Of winter exactly.
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So I have to go check the classrooms because like you, you
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know, you tell your teachers to lock them up and stuff at the
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end of the day and this is after school program so you just got
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to do it. You just got to do yourself.
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Sometimes you're like, you know what I'd rather be safe than
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sorry. So I'm going, I'm going around
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and I'm like damn, like I should go check this classroom just
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because like I, I, it's all the way in the corner.
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It's. You so you had a feeling like
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something pulled you. Something told me go check the
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classroom. It's like all the way in the
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back. But yeah, like just cool.
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I'm like I'm just going to go and get over with.
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I'll go back straight shot to my office.
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I go and I'm passing through the classrooms.
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There's like a gate to open it. So you have to go get through
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the gate, start passing through the hallway of classrooms, and I
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swear to God I like I on the way passing one of the middle
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classrooms I heard laughing. No.
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And then like, I kind of like, I didn't stop to look at the door,
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but I just stopped to look around because, like bordering
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those classrooms is like that fence with like that green mesh
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that covers so you can't see on the inside of the playground.
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OK. Yeah.
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So like there's got to be some kids, like right on the other
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side that I can't see because it's dark.
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Whatever. I just kept walking.
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I go, I checked clock classrooms locked.
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I turn around and I just get that feeling of like, but did I
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hear something like maybe from the classroom?
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And I walk and I'm approaching the door and I'm super
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conscious, like I'm like just listening intently and what the
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fuck do I hear from the classroom kid laughing?
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It is like there's no one else on campus besides like maybe me,
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the custodians and the night custodians and like, I don't
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know, maybe a teacher that stayed late, but like they're
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never there at that time. I fucking clear as they heard
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laughing kid laughing and I just like I like straight never
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didn't even look. I didn't acknowledge it.
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I just kept going. I did say like as I was like
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walking past the gate. I'm like I do not accept
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anything. I do not walk up anything into
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my life. Like whatever is there, I
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acknowledge you, but like stay, do not bother me.
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I think I called Dulce right away and I told her I'm like,
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and it was like that spine show. Do you like shivers?
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Like no fucking way. This Like I just heard that.
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And like there's no one. There's those classrooms are
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empty and there is no one outside of the fence 'cause I
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heard it from the classroom and I just fucking went to my office
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and I think my assistant was there.
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So like I told her I'm like, dude, like I was freaked out and
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I'm like, dude, I just heard something back there like I'm
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going home. Like I'm going home, I'm locking
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up, I'm going home. And it's having mental distress.
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Like, I'm done. I'm clocked out, dude.
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Yeah, So that was, I think, like the one that I remember.
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Wow I I forgot about it till right now but I remember.
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That one vividly. Children ghosts are terrifying.
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One thing is an adult. Adult ghost.
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Yeah. You know what?
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That's fine. Like you were an adult.
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You died. Probably an old person, but for
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it to be a child at a school. Yeah.
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OK. We're not going to talk about
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like where you worked, but afterwards we need to do some
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research. So like who died there?
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There is OK. So there's a confirmed, there's
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a memorial in that in that playground, there's a little
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there's a there's a mural. I mean, this is like all schools
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in in America. But from what I know it was a
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confirmed like passing outside of the school.
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Like in the community or not Just like literally in that
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area, like on the grounds of that school.
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Correct. That's that was what was like
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confirmed to me. I, I don't, I've never done the
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research, but there is a mural in that playground area where
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they're remembering a certain, you know, students and stuff.
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But this was like years ago and I.
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Wonder if like, yeah, someone doesn't pass in that specific
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area. If like a memorial, withdraw
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them. They like their energy and
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stuff. Especially if people go to mourn
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them. I feel like you're putting in a
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lot of energy into the universe when you're there to like,
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remember someone. Yeah.
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And it can be both like positive and negative or just like, you
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know, that mixed troubled feeling.
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And so, so I can see how that can like maybe call yeah,
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towards like some sort of energy, yeah.
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Thank for that's scary. I don't know how I would have.
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Dude, I just remembering right now, it does like kind of like
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it gets me, yeah. It gives me the heebie jeebies.
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It's it's a trip. It's it's crazy.
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That's scary of him. Also, I'm a little jealous.
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Remember last time when we were talking about like, I, I want to
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experience something and you were saying that you wanted, I
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was like, Nope, I don't. You're like, I've already been
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there. I've already been.
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There and it totally like it just crossed it off my mind.
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I was like Nope. Well, it's happened to me.
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I'm open, don't want anything to follow me home.
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Luckily nothing here has been scary or sketchy.
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I don't have like a personal like super scary story.
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There was a house that I lived in like my teen years that like
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my family has experienced stuff. So I'll, I will share that there
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was one weird thing that did happen to me in my room.
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I used to have like I had my own room.
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I had like my bed in a corner and then on the opposite wall I
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had a little desk and a shelf right on top of it.
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And I had so many little Knick knacks.
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I had like my books up there. I had a little minion doll and I
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was there in my room, like I think I was like standing like
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on my phone or something. And the minion doll comes flying
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and I sat there like no freaking way.
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Like I'm there trying to debunk like what just happened.
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Like I'm putting it back on the bookshelf like knocking it over
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slightly seeing where it goes but if it knocks over it bounces
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off the desk and I have eye line of the desk even in my
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peripherals that I would have seen it hit.
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But no dude this thing completely passes the desk and
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lands in the middle of the room. That was the only thing I
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experienced there. Whose house was this again?
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This is. Our house like oh OK, this is
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when I lived in Chino. Wow.
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My brother had this very scary story that he told my mom.
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So I think I heard this either from my mom or both of them
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together. But my mom, I think it was my
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mom who told me, but she said that my brother would complain
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about a little boy who would turn his TV on at night because
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he I guess he would wake up and the TV would be on with static.
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And he said, no there there's a little boy that turns on my TV
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At that point. I don't think my brother had the
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cable or anything in his room to, to be watching TVI think we
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did have like a PlayStation or something in there.
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Hey, he could have been playing PlayStation until like who knows
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what time. But he swears that he would wake
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up to see a little boy pressing the buttons on his TV to turn
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them on. It was you.
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It was not me. No dude, when I used to go to
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bed I used to lock my door. I said do not disturb me.
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Yeah, yeah. I'm sleeping.
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Do not come until the next morning.
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Yeah, and my mom would have pound on the door, 'cause I'm
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fully knocked out like me. You have to go to school.
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Yeah, at least that day. You're like, no.
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Money and I'm like. It is not time yet.
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And I'd go to school literally like a zombie.
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Anyways, that's what he experienced.
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That's crazy. This was this was also a pretty
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big house. We had like 4 rooms.
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My parents had the main bedroom and it was huge.
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But there was also an office when we moved in that used to be
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a room that the prior owner just took, added double doors, got
20:43
rid of the closet doors made at their office with like built in
20:46
shelves and stuff. Well, my dad was like, now we're
20:50
going to rent that room out. So they patched it up, replace
20:53
the the doors. And so we were renting out to I
20:57
think they were cousins. These two guys, they were
20:59
cousins. They're really cool.
21:01
One of them got really close to my dad, but one of them, Oh no,
21:08
it wasn't them. No, before them, we had rented
21:12
it out to this guy who had a, a son who was also like a man in
21:15
my brother's age. I think we went to middle school
21:17
with him, but he was telling my mom one time that he he worked
21:23
really crazy hours. So sometimes you'd be getting
21:25
home, like really late at night. Yeah.
21:27
And he said that one night he came in at like 11 or something.
21:31
And as he was, as he went into the front door.
21:35
So when you open the door, there was a hallway that took you
21:38
visually. You can see all the way to the
21:39
back door where there was also the living room.
21:43
And if you go straight ahead, there was a couch.
21:45
OK. And the couch was facing a while
21:47
you can't see, but he walked in and he said he saw someone like
21:51
laying on the couch. So he thought it was I think he
21:55
said either my mom or my dad and that he was going to walk up to
21:59
to say, oh, Buenos noches, senora.
22:01
But he walked up disappeared. There was nothing there but that
22:06
he saw the the like the shadows of someone.
22:09
Yeah, laying on like. Laying on not laying on the
22:11
couch but like leaning on the on the the armrest.
22:14
But. That it wasn't him.
22:18
Shit my pants on the spot. Yeah, if it's dark, it's night
22:21
time, like we didn't leave any lights on and.
22:24
Then it seemed like a shadow, like just like the.
22:26
You get closer and it's gone. No, I am, Yeah, I am defecating
22:31
in my pants on the spot. Yep, like I said, I never
22:35
experienced anything else like that up until now.
22:39
I don't think I've ever witnessed that.
22:42
I can share that. I can share as of now, nothing.
22:45
I've really been like, well, what was that?
22:48
I don't know. Maybe we'll come back and I'll
22:50
have more stories. Maybe.
22:52
Maybe. But Yep, that's it.
22:55
Wow. I feel like there's been other
22:58
things that like are in my mind, but I don't recall them being.
23:03
Real there. Was one time I do remember being
23:06
in in Mexico. We went to go visit family and I
23:09
remember staying in the Rancho somewhere and I remember I think
23:13
I was told the story of the Yarona that night, which is
23:16
probably why I couldn't sleep. And I was so terrified thinking
23:18
something was going to happen. But that sticks out in my mind.
23:22
Yeah, there is. There is like stories that I
23:26
remember that my cousins used to tell me in Mexico and like this
23:29
one time we drove out like far I was like I was like vacationing
23:32
there for like 2-3 weeks at a time.
23:33
So I would go and I was younger I was like 10910 eleven.
23:39
My cousins were like 16/17/18. So we went on this trip we had
23:43
to take all the Carteras to get to this like beach took hours.
23:46
It was like a 3-4 hours a day and we had just watched scary
23:50
movies the night before and like scary movie.
23:52
Like to me as a kid, watching Mexican scary movies were like
23:56
10 times more frightening than watching.
23:57
More scary in Spanish. Everything is worse.
23:59
And I remember they would watch me and they would taught me.
24:02
They'd be like, oh, do you understand what they're saying?
24:03
I'm like, yes. And they're like, so you know
24:06
what can happen here, right? And I'm like, bruh.
24:08
And then there is this movie that we watched.
24:10
It was like Kilometro. Like why were they egging you?
24:13
On dude they were dude my cousin like cousin their Dick
24:15
sometimes, but I remember the movie was like kilometros like
24:19
Satan Tayuno. I forget what kilometer was, but
24:22
and it's a certain like part of the of the road that someone
24:25
died and that they appear. We were like driving what Like
24:28
in real life, we were driving to the beach or whatever and we
24:31
were taking the Alto Pista and kilometros are shown like every
24:35
so often. We were coming up on that
24:37
kilometro number and he was like, do you remember the movie
24:39
look? We were like on 2/3, dude.
24:42
They were assholes. But yeah, I remember they that
24:46
they that freaked me out. And it was dark.
24:48
It was night. Like I remember like closing my
24:50
eyes in the car just like Nope. Nope, they wanted to give you
24:53
trauma. Yeah, but what good, good stuff?
24:56
As you were telling that story, something came back to me,
24:59
actually. Coming back to me now.
25:05
I don't know why my mind went there, but you started talking
25:07
about family in like Spanish in Mexico.
25:09
And I had the strongest image of my grandpa 'cause apparently,
25:16
honestly, I kind of remember this 'cause I can see the visual
25:18
in my mind. But my grandpa passed when I
25:21
think I was two or three. And I remember the funeral.
25:26
I remember going to the funeral OK.
25:29
And I, my mom says that I had not that day, but later, like
25:38
later on, that I had told her that I had seen him at the
25:41
cemetery, that he was there standing under a tree.
25:44
And by my grandpa's plot at the cemetery, the way you get down
25:49
or we know how to get down there is because there's a very
25:51
specific tree, like a big pine tree.
25:54
And that's the tree I remember him standing under.
25:58
And he, my mom says that he, that I told her that he said he
26:04
wanted us to bring him a lot of flowers.
26:07
I'm three years old. I, I don't understand what the,
26:12
the idea of bringing flowers to a grave at that point.
26:15
I think my grandma had died before I was born and that was
26:17
the only person I think we would have gone to the cemetery for.
26:21
But why would that have stuck in my head where I knew, OK, now
26:24
it's time for my grandpa. But she says I had the the the
26:27
image or I that I saw him and I can, I can kind of envision it
26:31
now if I think about it like I see that.
26:34
The tree. The tree, him standing there in
26:36
a grey suit. He's wearing a grey suit and I
26:39
think he has, Is that a cowboy hat?
26:43
Either a white or brown cowboy hat.
26:45
Wow. I don't remember, but I I guess
26:51
I spoke to the dead maybe when I was young.
26:55
I mean, being a kid, having that pureness in you and stuff and
26:58
like, I mean. It has to be a thing.
27:01
Yeah, I just saw a TikTok that I bookmarked of this girl telling
27:04
her mom that, oh, your dad is here and he wants to talk to
27:07
you. Her, her like her grandpa, the
27:11
girl's her mom's dad passed like he's, he's, he's dead.
27:15
And she's like, oh, you the mom's telling her oh, like your
27:19
dad, your dad is here. And she's like, no, your dad,
27:22
this girl barely talks and she's like, oh, where is he?
27:26
He's here. Takes her to the freaking closet
27:29
and points at just a dark closet of pointing like up towards the
27:35
ceiling. The comments are so funny.
27:36
They're like, girl, you're so brave for opening that closet,
27:40
you know, No. Fear.
27:42
That's yeah, that's crazy. That's.
27:45
That type of ghost I'm into, if it's like a family member coming
27:49
from the other side that wants to make themselves known.
27:52
Say hi, send you a message. Love that.
27:55
But also like, not from a creepy like addict or closet, no.
27:58
Please just or at the foot of my bed while I'm sleeping.
28:01
Yeah, No, I want to know about like, like huntings that are
28:05
like residual. Yeah.
28:11
Yeah, only someone happened to know about residual huntings.
28:13
Wait, sorry, did you say residual or?
28:15
I said residual. No, I said residual.
28:17
You said residual. Oh OK, sorry.
28:19
I happen to have some stuff on residual huntings.
28:22
Oh really? Tell me more.
28:23
Yeah, this and you know, I think it correlates to a lot of what
28:27
we said, which is kind of funny. I just this happened so sudden
28:31
wow, I didn't prepare for this. It's.
28:33
Not like you spent months. No, I didn't spend months.
28:35
Yeah, or or months and then having to redo everything. 30
28:38
minutes. 30 minutes, 3030 Residual hauntings There's a lot
28:45
of good sources on residual hauntings.
28:47
These are like. If you haven't heard of them,
28:50
you're about to So great source. Like I love the stuff on here.
28:56
I'm going to keep deep diving haunted Orange County haunted
28:59
OC. I've heard of that.
29:00
Great great fucking like resource.
29:03
Research it up guys. So, per their website, a
29:07
residual haunting are believed to occur when intense emotional
29:12
energy, whether traumatic or joyful, is released into the
29:16
environment. Events such as violent crimes or
29:19
overwhelming distress may leave behind a kind of an energetic
29:23
imprint on a location. Sorry.
29:27
Much like a recording, these imprints can then relay the same
29:30
scenes or sounds repeatedly, independent of the present
29:33
moment, like a tape recorder. You know, they're just these.
29:36
Images like specifically with like battlefields.
29:40
Yep, that's a. That's a great example, Ryan.
29:43
We'll get to that. So, unlike intelligent
29:46
hauntings, there is no awareness or interaction from the entities
29:48
involved in the residual hauntings.
29:50
They are not conscious spirits, but rather echoes of the past.
29:55
Interestingly, residual hauntings can also stem from
29:57
positive events. People have reported hearing
30:00
distant music, laughter or sounds of celebration, only to
30:04
find an empty room where the activity seemed to be coming
30:06
from. In some cases, even the
30:09
impressions of the living may leave behind such energetic
30:13
traces. So let's do some deep diving on
30:18
something called the Stone Tape theory.
30:21
This is a theory that's backing up these hauntings.
30:25
So of course I'm throwing Reddit out there.
30:27
There's so many cool people on Reddit.
30:29
So in a Reddit article there. The Stone Tape theory is a
30:33
paranormal hypothesis that suggests that emotional or
30:36
traumatic events can be recorded as energy imprints on physical
30:40
materials, especially stone, and then relayed under certain same
30:44
conditions. It proposes that these imprints,
30:47
similar to recordings on a magnetic tape, can be
30:50
experienced as residual hauntings.
30:52
These hauntings are characterized by the repetition
30:54
of past events or the presence of figures seemingly unaware of
30:58
the living. So I think an example would be
31:01
like seeing a lady in like a white dress, like a old timey
31:04
dress, or like someone in a very dapper fit suit, you know, in a
31:09
hallway that disappears into the wall, things like that.
31:11
They're. None the wiser.
31:12
They're still just. Yes, they're appearing.
31:14
They're just in that loop. They're not looking at you,
31:16
they're not making contact with you.
31:17
It's just like a loop, a recording of some sort.
31:21
There was a capstone project I read.
31:23
Did their research on this for a good project and it like it did
31:26
say like it. Wasn't peer reviewed or
31:27
anything, but there was like a methodology and so there was a
31:30
lot of really like in depth research that went into this.
31:34
It's from Saint Mary's University of Minnesota, I
31:38
believe her last name was Danielson.
31:40
I forget the first name, but it's called GIS to analyze
31:44
relationships to explore paranormal occurrences in the
31:47
continental United States. GIS is like the geological, some
31:52
sort of like mapping institute of science.
31:54
I don't. Know I I forget I had it written
31:55
but. That's part of the information I
31:56
lost and I did not depive into like, pulling that up again.
31:59
Sorry, not sorry. So in this, you know, in this
32:03
paper, she theorizes that intense emotional experiences,
32:08
especially traumatic ones, release energy that can be
32:11
absorbed and stored by certain materials, particularly stone
32:15
and other crystalline substances.
32:17
So now we get into like the stones, crystals, why certain
32:20
crystals, like have a deep energetic characteristic about
32:24
them that can be used for like portals for like, re energizing
32:28
or, you know, XYZ friend, she was here last week.
32:31
Listen to that. I put yeah, yeah.
32:32
She's talking about crystals and crystals and stones.
32:34
And what they do. Wait.
32:36
Pause. So this this so far has been two
32:38
different people talking about stuff being recorded in stone,
32:41
correct? Well, so the stone.
32:43
Tape theory was popularized by the 1972 BBC film The Stone
32:48
Tape, often linked to the concept of place memory, or the
32:52
idea that certain locations hold the echoes of past events.
32:57
It's not scientifically proven, it remains a popular concept in
33:00
paranormal investigations and discussions, and it offers a
33:04
possible explanation for residual hauntings.
33:06
So that's why it's linked. The big thing was just like the
33:10
emotions behind a certain event. So let's give you some examples.
33:14
I'm sorry, you mentioned like a battlefield.
33:16
Yeah, that's where I've heard of it.
33:17
So you've heard of the Gettysburg?
33:19
Battle, the battle at Gettysburg, Confederates, all
33:21
that good stuff. All that bad stuff, I mean.
33:24
So it's known for reports of residual hauntings, where events
33:27
of the past are believed to play out as ghostly echoes or
33:30
recordings in the environment. These hauntings manifest as
33:33
sounds like moaning footsteps, gunfire, visual phenomena like
33:38
apparitions of soldiers, shadowy figures and and glowing horses.
33:43
The intensity of these residual hauntings is thought to be
33:45
linked to the immense loss of life and trauma experienced
33:48
during the Battle of Gettysburg, which has left which has left a
33:51
lasting imprint on the battlefield and surrounding
33:54
areas. So some specific locations the
33:57
Gettysburg battlefield visitors report hearing phantom drums,
34:00
distant musket fire, and the sounds of marching soldiers.
34:03
Some have seen ghostly regiments, including the phantom
34:06
regiment marching in tattered uniforms.
34:09
I think there's videos on YouTube where like you can see
34:12
through the trees, through the shrubs, like marching, and there
34:16
is reenactments that happened at these famous battlegrounds and
34:20
stuff. But like, you can see them also
34:22
disappearing. Like there is no continuation of
34:24
it. There is no people.
34:24
Like, yeah, it could be doctored.
34:27
It could be fake, but I've seen it.
34:29
Most recently I was like, OK, what are some sites around here?
34:31
You know, what is something not, not like nowhere too far for me
34:36
to give an example of. And I pulled up the Queen Mary.
34:41
It's known as one of the most haunted places in the United
34:43
States. And there was an article from
34:48
the haunted history.com. She gives a great in detail
34:52
example of a residual haunting that is widely known in the
34:58
Queen on the Queen Mary. Is it the lady in white?
35:00
It's. Not the lady in white, it's.
35:02
Actually, an officer by the name of William E Stark.
35:06
Oh, OK. Officer William E Stark.
35:10
Guests and. Staff have reported.
35:11
Seen a man in a Cunard officer's uniform?
35:16
Cunard you decide. Walking the decks as if he is
35:21
still carrying out some duties. Some claim he appears confused,
35:24
still searching for something. What is he searching for?
35:28
People have like reported seeing the stark badge on his on his
35:32
chest. So this is the back story.
35:36
This is a direct story from her website.
35:39
I will be reading it right now. On the night of September 18th,
35:44
1949, Senior Second Officer Stark went to prepare drinks as
35:48
Captain Andrew McKellar had invited two officers for a drink
35:53
when they came off duty. Unable to find Jin, he asked
35:56
Frederick Stokes, the Captain Steward, for help.
36:00
In the dim lighting, Stokes searched A cupboard and
36:03
eventually handed Stark a bottle.
36:06
Unbeknownst to either of them, the bottle, though labeled as
36:09
gin, had been repurposed to store carbon tetrachloride, a
36:14
toxic cleaning solvent used for ship maintenance.
36:18
I do have a picture of the possible cleaning solution that
36:21
was used at the time, which is Carbona, who will post that on
36:25
Instagram. Yeah.
36:26
And there's 2 bottles. There's a real life.
36:27
Bottle and then like the actual little the ad yeah.
36:31
At 1945 PM, after completing his rounds, Stark met with Captain
36:35
McKellar, made an off hand comment.
36:38
That was funny gin, we had Sir at dinner time.
36:41
Here, let me repeat that again. That was funny gin we had Sir at
36:45
dinner time. But Keller?
36:47
Realizing something was. Wrong.
36:49
Questioned him further. It was only then that Stark
36:52
understood what had happened. He had unknowingly mixed his
36:55
drink with poison. Stark had only taken a couple of
36:58
sips before realizing his mistake.
37:00
However, rather than seeking immediate medical treatment, he
37:04
dismissed the danger, reportedly treating the situation as rather
37:08
a joke, or rather a joke. He later joined other officers
37:13
in the chief's officer's cabin and had two actual gin and
37:16
lines. Doctor John O'meara O'meara, the
37:21
ship's assistant surgeon, urged Stark to have his stomach pumped
37:24
immediately. Stark refused.
37:27
Instead, he was advised to drink large amounts of lime juice and
37:30
water to induce vomiting. He followed this advice but
37:33
otherwise carried on as if nothing had happened.
37:37
Of course I kept drinking. He was just whatever.
37:40
He's add to that boy. I'm a man.
37:42
Give me two shots, give me two more, give me two more, two more
37:45
please. By the time the Queen Mary
37:46
reached Southampton on September 20th, Stark's condition had
37:49
worsened significantly. He was rushed to the Royal S
37:52
Hans and Sand Southampton Hospital where his wife
37:56
Margaret, a nurse, was able to speak with him.
37:59
She told them, Bendejo, you should have got your fucking
38:01
stomach pumped. She did not say that.
38:03
She later told the coroner that she had asked her husband why he
38:06
hadn't had his stomach pumped. His response?
38:09
I did not think anything of it. Who's at this?
38:12
The doctor or him? This was him, he didn't think.
38:15
Anything of it. But he's he got medical advice.
38:19
They told him to pump his stomach.
38:20
Yeah. He didn't think anything of it.
38:22
No, we're keeping the potty going.
38:23
So. So despite.
38:25
Treatment Stark succumbed to the carbon tetrachloride poisoning
38:28
on September 23rd, 1949, two days before his 31st birthday.
38:32
No, he was young at the. Inquest the deputy coroner.
38:36
Michael Emanuel ruled his death an accident, calling it a most
38:40
unfortunate sequence of events. Was it Doctor HH Gleave?
38:45
Gleave Gleave, a pathologist, stated that if Stark had
38:48
undergone his stomach wash immediately, he likely would
38:52
have survived so. This goes back to a point you
38:57
said earlier. Spaces that you know have a lot
39:01
of meeting to a person, a memorial memorial that is not.
39:06
The place where they died. But it holds that energy.
39:10
We talked about this when we when.
39:12
When I talked about the Knickerbocker Hotel, how what
39:15
was his name? He had the freaking stroke
39:18
underneath the chandelier with all the crystals.
39:21
Crystals, and they're still. There.
39:24
And people report seeing him. Many believe that a person must.
39:28
Die in a location in order to hunt it.
39:30
But that's not always true. It's possible that the spirit of
39:33
Officer Stark remains aboard the Queen Mary because of his deep
39:36
connection to the ship. Reports of William Stark's
39:39
spirit linger aboard the Queen Mary, particularly near the
39:42
captain's cabin, on the main dank deck, and along the
39:46
promenade. Promenade.
39:49
Promenade, sure. Some visitors.
39:51
And crew members have claimed to see a figure in AQ Nerd
39:56
officer's uniform in these areas, believed to be Stark,
39:58
still making his rounds. Borosito, he's still working.
40:01
I know even in death others have.
40:03
Reported hearing unexplained. Choking sounds, which some
40:06
attribute to Stark's tragic poisoning.
40:09
It's not someone. Who's seasick?
40:10
Just I know it, it's just over the side.
40:12
Of the That's the boat that's got to be.
40:14
Stocked it's I'm telling you that's.
40:15
Officer Stark, he had one too many.
40:18
So, yeah, so. That's a residual haunting
40:20
that's reported on the Queen Mary that has like, I think they
40:24
have his death on one of the plaques on board because he was
40:28
such like a important member of the staff and everything.
40:31
So the residual is him just. Doing his rounds, maybe.
40:34
Maybe there was that connection? Maybe.
40:35
Like as he was like on his way to the hospital, he was like,
40:37
no, no, I got to I'll be fine. I got to go back to work because
40:40
he just continued to do what he was doing right after the the
40:43
poisoning. So I feel like also after do
40:46
after ingesting someone, not being like conscious of like
40:50
you're drinking poison and then be like, damn, this is a
40:52
mistake. Like I shouldn't be dying Like I
40:53
was just drinking gin or something, you know, I don't
40:56
know, There's like you don't put too much emphasis on it.
40:57
Yes. So who knows?
41:00
That's wild, I've heard of that story.
41:01
Excuse me? Yeah.
41:03
Good story. Yeah, and I'm sure there's more.
41:06
I'm sure there's like a bunch. But well, like I said earlier, I
41:09
thought you were going to talk about the.
41:10
Lady in white. I don't know if that's residual.
41:12
We'd have to do some research. I I feel like it has to be
41:15
residual just because. Reports saying that they.
41:18
See a lady in like. This old white dress by the
41:20
piano and everything, that's energy that's like that, you
41:24
know, true ocean that's stuck there if it's still the same
41:27
piano. And it is.
41:29
It's original. It's the original piano from
41:32
back then. Wow.
41:33
I don't have the year, but yeah, that's an original piano.
41:36
Interesting. And that's it.
41:39
So some residual hauntings, Stone tape theory.
41:42
I when I first heard the stone tape theory, I heard it from a
41:46
podcast and that's why we drink Paranormal crime and mystery.
41:51
Yeah, great podcast, murder mystery, all that good stuff.
41:55
The hosts, amazing. They're both great.
41:57
But that's where I first heard of the stone tape theory.
41:59
And I'm like, that's crazy. Like that makes so much sense.
42:03
So when I, you know, search sub residual hauntings and realize
42:07
there's a that's the link. There's a link to it.
42:09
I'm like, oh, this is great, this is perfect.
42:12
So I'd rather residual hunting. Than what I researched, which is
42:16
possession. We touched on this briefly,
42:19
Yeah, in our episode, I think it was episode #6 or 7, the one
42:24
where we talked about the casket girls and, and Annabelle the
42:27
doll. Yeah.
42:29
So possessions. Date back.
42:31
To the time Jesus walked the earth.
42:33
The Bible references multiple instances in which Jesus
42:37
exercised said demons. But what differentiates A
42:40
possession from haunting? On a previous episode, Jerry
42:44
discussed the possession of Annabelle, the doll.
42:47
A possession is when a demon takes over a host.
42:49
In the Annabelle case it was a Raggedy Ann doll, but in other
42:52
cases it's the taking over of a person.
42:55
No thank you. I found.
42:57
This very. Interesting article that was
43:00
like in a medical journal. Interesting.
43:04
The. Possibility of possession has a
43:07
diagnosis. Oh, so it was on the National
43:11
Library of medicine. It documents a case of a 21 year
43:15
old woman who would display episodes of extraordinary
43:17
strength, aggression and the sudden ability to speak a
43:21
foreign language. These episodes.
43:24
Would last up to 20 minutes. At a time her family took her to
43:27
a psychiatrist after multiple failed attempts of faith-based
43:30
healing. So they took her to their local
43:32
church people and said something's wrong, she's
43:36
haunted, what can we do? And I guess nothing, nothing
43:38
worked. So they took her to the
43:40
psychiatrist. However, she remained a
43:44
diagnostic enigma. What the case?
43:48
States the woman would have. Random bursts of anger.
43:52
She would scream and verbally abuse her family.
43:55
She broke furniture, developed extraordinary strength, and was
44:00
able to fend off 5 people trying to hold her down.
44:04
During these rage filled episodes, her family stated she
44:07
would begin to speak in Arabic, a language she did not know how
44:10
to speak previously. Her father, who had previously
44:14
worked in an Arabic speaking country, was the one who noticed
44:18
that she was suddenly speaking in Arabic.
44:19
She's like, wait, I, I, I've heard of this.
44:21
I've heard this before. He said that she was speaking
44:25
entire sentences how and she was mostly cursing.
44:29
The. Family out he he knew those he
44:31
knew those words. He.
44:32
Was like, I know the first words you learned in another language
44:34
you're. Learning a new language?
44:35
Gotta learn the curse. Words.
44:38
The episodes. Occurred multiple times a week,
44:40
with the patient having no recollection of the events when
44:42
she would eventually come to. She had no prior history of
44:46
psychiatric problems prior to the sudden onset of episodes.
44:51
Her cognitive. Functions were well.
44:52
Intact and testing revealed no abnormalities in her brain.
44:57
Her diagnosis remained an enigma, and she was prescribed a
45:00
medication often used to treat an array of mental illnesses.
45:03
However, her episodes continue to occur.
45:07
Unable to give an accurate diagnosis, the article leaves
45:11
the reader wondering if possession can be diagnosable.
45:14
The only thing that they thought was similar was maybe like a
45:19
multiple personality type disorder.
45:21
Yeah, but the medications that they were trying to give her to
45:24
treat that did not make much of a difference.
45:28
Do you know those? The side effects were the.
45:30
Side effects I think they were. Like irritable imaginable.
45:33
Yeah, I know the ability, said An.
45:34
Onset of strength speaking. Foreign languages, especially
45:37
curse words. No.
45:39
Well, the they. Gave her the medicine in hopes
45:41
that it would like calm down the episodes and I guess they're
45:44
probably like some sort of like mood stabilizer or something to
45:48
like block some sort of hormone. But I guess they still happen,
45:52
just not as strong. Wow.
45:54
It didn't give me what they if she was.
45:56
Officially diagnosed, didn't say if she was treated.
46:01
Better. What are you looking at, Jerry?
46:02
I just did 2 looks I know living room no.
46:04
Stop. Stop.
46:05
No, we're good. We're good.
46:05
We're good. That scared me.
46:08
OK, continuing, I found another website that it was called the
46:12
The Gospel Coalition. It describes demonic possession
46:15
as a variety of conditions, both physical and psychological, for
46:19
which the cause is identified as a direct demonic influence.
46:24
The remedy that was used by Jesus and the early church for
46:27
such conditions was exorcism. Symptoms of possession vary.
46:32
Greatly from case to case. Examples include inability to
46:36
speak, blindness, deafness, ferocity, nakedness, self harm
46:43
and. Excessive.
46:44
Strength. They go on to say that the most
46:46
common remedy for possession is issuing a command to the Spirit
46:49
in the name of Jesus to leave the person which.
46:53
Is it's exorcism that's. What it's called one of the
46:59
most. Famous.
47:00
Cases of an exorcism is the case of Roland Doe.
47:05
He is a 14 year old. Boy, who would?
47:06
Eventually inspire the 1973 horror film The Exorcist.
47:11
Wow, I will be. Referring to him as Roland.
47:14
Doe because I did see a couple articles that link him to
47:17
multiple names so this person is from what I assume real, but I
47:22
saw that he was linked to two different names so in order to
47:26
just keep it ambiguous. I'm just gonna refer to him as.
47:31
The name given to him which is Roland Doe.
47:32
OK. Born in 1935.
47:37
Joe was raised by a middle class family in Cottage City, MD.
47:41
By the age of 14, Joe began to experience paranormal activities
47:44
that would dramatically alter the course of his life.
47:47
The occurrences coincided with the death of his aunt in January
47:51
of 1949, who, while alive, had taught Roland how to use a Ouija
47:56
board. No, thank you.
47:59
It started. With a knocking inside the walls
48:02
that only he could hear. Soon, reports state that
48:06
furniture would begin to move around him on one.
48:10
Incident A chair. Was thrown at Reverend Luther
48:13
Scholes, the family minister, the boy's bed.
48:17
Would shake. Whenever he was in it, the
48:20
minister even described scratched marks on the floor and
48:23
he called them scars from the heavy sliding of the furniture,
48:29
unable to. Find help with their local.
48:30
Ministry. The boy's family reached out to
48:33
William Bodern, a Jesuit who conducted more than 20 exorcism
48:38
rituals on Doe, all within a span of three months.
48:42
So this started in January and only went through April and he
48:45
had 20 exorcisms done. Damn.
48:49
An entry. On Bodern's journal recounts an
48:52
exorcism with 14 people in attendance.
48:55
He wrote that there was scratching, which beat out a
48:59
rhythm of marching soldiers. A second class relic of Saint
49:02
Margaret Mary, like something hanging on the wall, was thrown
49:06
at the floor. The safety pin was opened, but
49:08
no human had touched the relic. Another night.
49:12
The boy. Had the name Lewis carved into
49:15
his rib cage. Like bright red, like blood.
49:18
Jeez. During the exorcisms, he would
49:22
be stripped. To the bed in a different
49:24
session he managed to tear a spring out of the bed and use it
49:27
to swing on the priest and cut him.
49:29
This boy literally. Have you seen the movie The
49:32
Exorcist where it's like they're trying to exorcise his demon and
49:35
things are just going to shit? I've also seen.
49:38
The The Scary movie throwing. Up it's Yep.
49:45
So they saw the family, saw the name Lewis on his rib cage, and
49:48
they were like, that means we have to take in with Saint
49:50
Louis. So they took him to Saint Louis.
49:53
Wow. He was later at the connection.
49:56
They took him to Saint Louis in the hopes of finding help to
49:59
absolve Ronald of his demons. There he met 2 priests, one of
50:03
which was William Bowden. At Saint Louis University, Doe
50:07
was once again strapped to his bed to perform another exorcism.
50:10
There, the exorcist witnessed scratching on the boy's body and
50:14
the mattress began to move violently.
50:17
Finally, on April 18th, 1949, a miracle occurred.
50:22
It was the Monday after Easter. The priests had laid relics,
50:25
crucifixes, medals and rosaries around the boy.
50:29
At 10:45 PM that evening, the attending priest called on Saint
50:32
Michael to expel Satan from Ronald's body.
50:36
They shouted at Satan saying that Saint Michael would battle
50:38
him for Ronald's soul. 7 minutes later Ronald came out of his
50:44
trance and said he's gone. The strange occurrences ceased.
50:52
After that. Dang.
50:57
I've never heard of the real story of of like, yeah, I'm
50:59
surprised it's not a girl when. I saw that it was like a 14 year
51:02
old Boyles, like they did him dirty.
51:04
How dare. But because what's creepier?
51:06
Apparently little girls, little girls being haunted.
51:10
I don't know, there's something about it like.
51:13
Long hair, head spinning through full 3. 60 Sorry you said that.
51:20
When what year did they take him to?
51:22
This is all in 1949. It was.
51:24
Like 3 months? What did did it say what?
51:26
Like specific? Months it started.
51:29
His aunt died in January and shortly after he started hearing
51:32
things in the walls. Oh, OK, OK.
51:34
And by April the last. Exorcism was April 18th.
51:39
April's birthday, April 18th. April 18th. 1949. 1949 You know
51:45
who was was. Around this time who?
51:49
William E Stark when he died in September 23rd, 1949.
51:54
Oh, bad year, bad year 9. Man, jeez.
51:57
Yeah. But I guess after this he went
51:59
on to live a really good life. He worked for NASA.
52:03
Wow. Yeah.
52:05
I wonder if people knew him. I guess he made it a thing for
52:08
hopefully people. Not to, but like, I guess word
52:11
eventually spread. He's the reason for the
52:13
Exorcist. But yeah, I guess he spent like
52:17
his Halloween all locked up because they didn't want anyone
52:19
to, like, find out. Oh my God that was a random.
52:22
Article I read on that, so I'm not.
52:24
Sure. The validity of the, the whole
52:25
NASA, yeah, that's still. Crazy though, like I've never
52:29
heard that story and that's, fuck, that's crazy.
52:32
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. What I would my reaction to
52:38
someone listing. I think there's.
52:42
A very fine line. Even if there is a line of like
52:45
mental illness and not being sure something is of this world
52:50
because you don't understand it. I don't know if I'm making
52:52
sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you
52:54
'cause there was another article that that talked about.
52:59
How we didn't really have. The answers of mental illness
53:06
back in the time of Jesus walking the earth where it was
53:08
easy to be like he came and he said some words and he cured
53:13
them of their, of their symptoms because they listed like
53:18
blindness, deafness as being signs of being possessed.
53:24
Yeah. I mean just like.
53:26
Anything they had, they have to like.
53:28
Whatever teachings at the time, they have to have answers, and
53:31
sometimes these answers are definitely not right.
53:34
So it makes sense. It makes sense that you know
53:38
they attribute it to some sort of negative, I don't know.
53:42
Being or energy? Or possession or whatever there
53:47
I'm. The reason I like I believe in
53:49
so much of this or I give it an I give it space, is why is it
53:54
such a common occurrence in multiple cultures of a life
54:00
after death of a good and evil? Yeah, things crossing over to
54:04
the other side. Like, I think even in the Aztec
54:09
culture, I'm not 100% sure, but there's like a God of the
54:12
underworld. I read a really good book about
54:15
that God trying to come back. Yeah.
54:18
To take more lives. But.
54:19
Anyways, yeah, and so that sounds like Greek.
54:21
Mythology to me, the Hades, you know, but it exists in like
54:26
exactly. The Latin culture, every corner
54:29
of the fucking. World.
54:30
Yeah, creepy. Some creepy stuff, Brian.
54:34
Yeah, but I'm into it as long as it.
54:37
Doesn't hurt me. I don't want to wake up with
54:38
weird scratches. You don't want to wake up with
54:40
Louis. Louis Cage.
54:41
On my rib cage, no. I doc I just woke up with this
54:45
like this is the. Tattoo, What'd you do yesterday?
54:47
Oh shit, I drink some ditrochloride.
54:51
Mixed. Drinks and gin.
54:53
I forgot to get my. Stomach pumped.
54:54
I didn't think it was that. Big a deal.
54:56
I thought nothing of it. Damn, that's wild.
55:02
Yeah, that's wild. This is a topic I would love.
55:06
To continue to have, I would love to hear.
55:12
Stories of you, Yes, I'm looking at you.
55:17
Yeah, guys. Send them if you have anything.
55:19
That you've experienced. Seen have been told about let us
55:23
know we want to read them yeah that sounds cool send it to send
55:26
us a message on our. Instagram exactly and if you
55:29
haven't followed. Us please do so at the.
55:31
Daily VJ podcast. Damn.
55:34
But yeah. Who knows, maybe next week we'll
55:38
come at you. With some more ghost stories,
55:42
what you we need to do? More research on the Queen Mary.
55:47
That'd be cool. I I there's, I mean, it's right.
55:48
There it's it's what, 30 minutes away?
55:50
Yeah, you can book a room that. 'D be fun.
55:54
I hear they do ghost tours. That'd be Oh yeah, they do.
55:57
And it's the Queen Mary. This ship has been around
55:59
forever. Yeah, it's all combat, like 8080
56:03
something years. Stinking off the top of my head,
56:06
sure, that sounds good to me. Yeah, how many?
56:09
Like how much? Death has this boat seen Oh, it
56:13
has to be like close to. Six.
56:15
It's D Maybe it was bigger than the Titanic, right?
56:17
I think it was bigger. I don't remember.
56:19
I want to. I want to say it's bigger than
56:20
the Titanic, which is even better because it looks like the
56:23
Titanic. It does it.
56:24
Does well. That sounds fun.
56:26
That's a good idea. Maybe.
56:27
Yeah, we'll see. I might not be free though.
56:31
No, actually I think I am. Pretty busy this weekend.
56:36
Well, if the sea breeze blows us in that direction West.
56:43
Yeah. We may or may.
56:45
Not if not, then we'll. Have a light hearted My Little
56:49
Pony. Yeah.
56:50
Deep dive or something. You know, some SpongeBob.
56:53
I don't know. We'll see.
56:56
We'll keep an eye out. We'll see.
56:59
Just keep an eye out. Bye, bye no.
57:04
Wait, we, don't we? Can't leave you, We have to
57:06
recommend songs. Oh yeah, we always do.
57:08
That we never forget. It's just I.
57:12
Really want to tease them. Let's see, what have I been?
57:16
Listening to this week, I'm going to go with.
57:25
Some modulations by boy harsher Oh.
57:35
I am going to recommend. Let's see, what have I had on
57:41
repeat recently? Oh, I'm going to recommend one
57:44
of my favorite Omar Apollo songs.
57:46
Guys, if you don't know, I'm a huge Omar Apollo fan.
57:48
Love him. But one of my favorite songs is
57:51
actually I think one of the first songs I heard of him,
57:53
which is Kamikaze. It's super cool, super like like
57:58
chill. I think it's like.
58:00
Bedroom pop, I don't know if that's the genre, but that's a
58:02
great genre. It's very like low.
58:04
Key. Chill pop music so.
58:07
Please listen to that I. Love it, and if you guys ever
58:11
have song recommendations also put that in the comments.
58:13
Yeah, I want to expand my library, add more.
58:15
Stuff to my listening, my daily listens.
58:18
Speaking of music, I have one more thing earlier when you were
58:21
mentioning like like what? Sorry, I forgot his name already
58:25
from the the original Ronald Delton Ronald when you're
58:29
Ronald, Ronald would be if he'd be laying down.
58:32
He you know, he started to scream and shout.
58:35
You said literally that's what played in my head when he said
58:37
that and I was like, that's going to be my recommendation.
58:40
It's not what we've been going to the to this.
58:42
Club that has the early 2000s music and every time we go they
58:46
play Scream and shout by Britney William we go oh yo-yo yo you
58:53
will now now rocking with. Brian and Jerry bitch.
58:58
It's also hard when there's a lot of people around you.
59:06
Know like late at night we do regular tours at midnight with
59:10
one tonight. I don't, I'm not doing 1
59:12
tonight, but that's when it's so silent and you can really hear
59:16
sounds like your sounds are very clear.
59:20
There's parties happening on the ship.
59:22
As soon as you can hear noises from parties or people up there,
59:29
Jackie, we're leaving now. All right, we're on our.
59:38
Way to the Paranormal Activity tour of Paranormal activity
59:44
Paranormal tour Normal tour.