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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, September 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jackuarris. Did you know Jack Jack Warris? Did you know
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Brian Sex steps John Ogris, Actually, Jaguarris
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time starts right now. Good morning and welcome into
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. Thursday morning, brought to you by Jet Homeland.
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  Speaker 1: A beautiful day in Jacksonville as I bring in Brian
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  Speaker 1: Sexton and John Osier, getting ready to preview this big
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  Speaker 1: week to match up against the Tennessee Titans. But first
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  Speaker 1: I must admit something. Brian Sexton. We live relatively close
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  Speaker 1: to one another at the beach, and I will say
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  Speaker 1: I went outside this morning and there was a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a chill in the air, like falling coming. What
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  Speaker 1: was it like? It was a nice Chris eight two
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  Speaker 1: this morning. That's fabulous. Wait, how are you going to
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  Speaker 1: deal with it next week? When it's in the sixties.
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  Speaker 1: It one night, it's supposed to get down your sixty nine.
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  Speaker 1: You better go get yourself a park at Florida. Girl.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, god, are you ready for that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I'm more than ready for it, but I'm particularly ready
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  Speaker 1: for the rain to stop. I'm an old man slan,
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  Speaker 1: so weather remains everything. Weather revolves around your life. I
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  Speaker 1: understand John. Alright, guys, let's get into big things. Enough
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  Speaker 1: about the weather. There's a game on Sunday. Big thing
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  Speaker 1: one is something sprint A stadium with no fans oh
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  Speaker 1: waits in Nashville, Tennessee. The Jaguars always practiced and noise.
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  Speaker 1: They played a game in front of fans last Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: So how will this weekend's game on Sunday affect them?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it could be a good thing to Jaguars have
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  Speaker 1: not one in Tennessee since two thousand thirteen, seven seasons ago.
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  Speaker 1: Possibly we'll be able to hear better on often. Good
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  Speaker 1: to be a good thing for the Jaguars. No fans,
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  Speaker 1: much more quiet in Nashville on sun Day. Big thing too,
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  Speaker 1: is is this offense Taylor to Gardner Minshew, Ques she
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  Speaker 1: Mark or is it Taylor to take what a defense
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  Speaker 1: gives it. It's a fair question. Last week the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: offense ran the ball until the cool defense figured out
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  Speaker 1: how to stop them. Will they open it up more
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  Speaker 1: this week at the start of the game. The dank
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  Speaker 1: and dunking we saw last week, which gave Gardner Minshew
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  Speaker 1: very impressive stats, makes it seem like Jagruden is definitely
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  Speaker 1: tailoring this offense to the quarterback. And finally, big thing
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  Speaker 1: three is number nine. First it was Darrell Casey, now
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  Speaker 1: it is Jadavian Clowney. The free agent signing was an
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  Speaker 1: absolute beast on Monday Night Football at the start of
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  Speaker 1: the game, and Sully his production started to sink as
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  Speaker 1: time went on. He admitted that he was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit rusty starting off this season, which is a little
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  Speaker 1: scary for jag Horse fans if he's already this productive
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  Speaker 1: and admitting he's rusty, the offensive coordinator definitely needs a
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  Speaker 1: nap after trying to learn how to deal with this
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  Speaker 1: Titans defense. Thank and crawl up on. You play a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Manda man with different ways to help the
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  Speaker 1: man coverage with different pluggers. It could be the safety
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  Speaker 1: come down, it could be a linebacker, be defensive ends dropping. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So they do a great job with their uh different
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  Speaker 1: coverages in different ways they get them. And then their
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  Speaker 1: blitz patterns are uh you know, we're we're I got
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  Speaker 1: about one hour sleep yesterday watching all these blitzes from
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  Speaker 1: last year. So uh, very very uh tough to deal
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  Speaker 1: with on third down, first second down, they have some
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  Speaker 1: nuisance type blitzes that are tough. Uh, but he's a
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  Speaker 1: great coach man and he proved it last year going
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  Speaker 1: late in the playoffs and uh done a good good job. Alrighty,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna have Voice of the Tennessee Titans coming
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  Speaker 1: up in the show. Mike Keith joins us here shortly.
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  Speaker 1: But let's preview this game on Sunday. First. John Osier,
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  Speaker 1: looking at that Monday night football game, the new edition
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  Speaker 1: of jadeveon Clowney being a linebacker, you definitely have to
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  Speaker 1: keep your eye on him, even more so than the
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  Speaker 1: guy last season. Darrell Casey. Yeah, it's interesting what you said,
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  Speaker 1: because I tuned in about the second quarter on didn't
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  Speaker 1: really notice Clowney that much. But the reality is he's
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  Speaker 1: a He's an unbelievably disruptive player in the ways where
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  Speaker 1: it's really really important, meaning against the run, in terms
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  Speaker 1: of getting guys, he helps people around him. He's not
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  Speaker 1: a huge stat guy. I don't know that he ever
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  Speaker 1: will be in terms of sacks, which obviously is why
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  Speaker 1: he didn't get paid. But overall, you have to account
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  Speaker 1: for him on every play because he is the most
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  Speaker 1: disruptive player in the field. The really bad news for
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars is is he's not far. He's not far
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  Speaker 1: and away the best player on their defense. They're a
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  Speaker 1: very deep overall defense. Their concern right now is their
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  Speaker 1: second doories beat up with the Dorry Jackson being out,
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  Speaker 1: So if they can keep the past rush off meeting
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, perhaps there's something they can exploit in the secondary.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Clowney is sort of a secret sauce. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, up Frond and the kid from Boston College
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  Speaker 1: whose name escapes me all of a sudden. They have
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  Speaker 1: got a really good football players on this Yeah, Herod Landry,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. I haven't heard whether Rashaan Evans faces
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  Speaker 1: any disciplinary action for the punch that he threw in
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  Speaker 1: that game in Denver or not. But you talk about
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  Speaker 1: a really good linebacker, I mean on on the level
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  Speaker 1: with the Miles jack sort of athlete in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of their defense there, and what Clowney gives them is
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  Speaker 1: a guy who creates mismatches that you have to account for,
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  Speaker 1: that takes another one of these young players and gives
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  Speaker 1: them a one on one. I mean, that's that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing that he does. The reason that Clowney was out there.
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  Speaker 1: The reason that he didn't get the deal that he
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  Speaker 1: wanted is in part the stats. As John mentioned, he's
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  Speaker 1: never had double digit sacks, but he's also had microfracture
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  Speaker 1: surgery on that knee, and so a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he hurt his knee in college. A couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago he had the surgery. And that's that's problem.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen it with Tony Brackens here in Jacksonville years
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  Speaker 1: ago that had shortens careers. Since people are wary of
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  Speaker 1: giving him that long term mega contract because he could
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  Speaker 1: be done tomorrow. You just never know with that bone
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  Speaker 1: on bone situation in his name. But if he's healthy
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  Speaker 1: and right, just watch ninety nine because they'll move him
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  Speaker 1: around and put him in positions, you know, over the
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  Speaker 1: right guard or wide outside on the right tackle or
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  Speaker 1: lined up in line back. I mean, they could just
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  Speaker 1: do so many things to create problems. And he's great
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  Speaker 1: at tipping passes. With a shorter quarterback, that's something that
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  Speaker 1: you're concerned with. Gardner Minshold being just six ft tall,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar's offensive line is definitely going to have a big
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  Speaker 1: task trying to handle him on Sunday. Let's go back
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  Speaker 1: up to big thing one about the no fans in Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: How big of a deal is that. I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: players about it, and really no one can even say
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  Speaker 1: how big of a deal it is or not because
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  Speaker 1: no one's ever done it before. So, John, I guess
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  Speaker 1: do you foresee that being a positive and negative? I
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  Speaker 1: guess we really ot know till Sunday. Yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure that it's gonna have a huge tangible effect. I
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  Speaker 1: watched a few other games every the weekend as a
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  Speaker 1: as a fan watching It didn't look like it affected
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  Speaker 1: things a whole great deal. I'm sure if you're on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline player and you're sort of used to hearing
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  Speaker 1: that den of you're focused in on what you're doing,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Brian sex deal, no big deal? Well, I
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  Speaker 1: think we'll find out. When we talked to the players
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  Speaker 1: after Sunday's game in Nashville, it was funny. At one
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  Speaker 1: point on Sunday evening, my wife turned to me and said,
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  Speaker 1: they're fans. They're right. I mean, she didn't even realize
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  Speaker 1: because she wasn't paying close attention that there weren't fans
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  Speaker 1: in the stands in Los Angeles because she heard the
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  Speaker 1: crowd noise as she was working in the kitchen, and
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  Speaker 1: the reality of it was was that the crowd noise
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  Speaker 1: is piped in there for the television audience so that
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel so strange. And they took a lot
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  Speaker 1: of very tight angles early on. Then they showed the
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  Speaker 1: stadium later in the game, but early on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they took tight angles to the field, and if you
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  Speaker 1: were just watching casually, you might not have known there
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  Speaker 1: weren't any fans there. So I can't say for sure.
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  Speaker 1: The players will tell us on Sunday after the game
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  Speaker 1: whether it was a big deal or not. It last
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  Speaker 1: week had to be weird for them, though there were
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  Speaker 1: some people in the stands. This week will be downright
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  Speaker 1: strange to see an empty stadium. That will take some
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  Speaker 1: time to get used to, especially in a place like Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: I think we all kind of test is a very loud, exciting,
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  Speaker 1: passionate fan base, especially for this matchup, so curiously see
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  Speaker 1: how that works. Let's quickly go to big thing Thing,
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  Speaker 1: Big thing too about this offense with Gardnerman. Should we
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  Speaker 1: listen to offensive coordator Jay Gruden yesterday and John and
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  Speaker 1: Brian The biggest thing I took away was really again
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  Speaker 1: the tight end inclusion in this offense. He really didn't
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  Speaker 1: talk much about it, and going on the show, especially
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  Speaker 1: during training camp, we talked a lot about the tight end. So, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: do you think we're going to see more inclusion for them?
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  Speaker 1: What is going on with that position? Well, there's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things that's going on. I mean, first and foremost,
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  Speaker 1: when you've got Levisca chen Ault and DJ Chark and
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  Speaker 1: Keelan Cole and Chris Connelly, there's lots of weapons. And
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  Speaker 1: as a guy that I'm fond of, used to say,
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  Speaker 1: when you throw to the tight end, you're throwing to
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  Speaker 1: the worst receiver on the field. Now I don't always
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  Speaker 1: believe that's true, but these other guys stretched the field
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  Speaker 1: and create issues. I think the tight end position will come.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Eifford is a guy that Minshew has developed a
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  Speaker 1: relationship with, and there will be opportunities for it. It
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  Speaker 1: could be even this week with the receivers against a
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  Speaker 1: depleted secondary in Nashville. It's a part of the offense.
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  Speaker 1: It's a part of every team's offense, and half the
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  Speaker 1: teams in the league this week are listening to their
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  Speaker 1: fans say, why didn't you get the tight end involved? Right? Um,
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  Speaker 1: The reality of it is is that this offense is
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  Speaker 1: right now trying to figure out what it is. In
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  Speaker 1: other words, they're taking what teams are giving them and
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  Speaker 1: figuring out what men show does well. At least Jay
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  Speaker 1: Gruden is so until he has a better grasp of
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  Speaker 1: what his quarterback does well and how he reacts to
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  Speaker 1: different situations in live game action. And remember last Sunday
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  Speaker 1: was the first game that they had that he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: take what he's given and he was given the shots
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  Speaker 1: down the field. That may change this week. Absolutely very
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  Speaker 1: curious to see how this offense now looks against a
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  Speaker 1: talented Titans defense that we mentioned is very deep in
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of levels, as we welcome in my teeth
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  Speaker 1: very excited to welcome in the voice of the Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: tight Ends and Mike keep here with us after coming
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  Speaker 1: off a Monday night football win, a very short week.
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  Speaker 1: So Mike, first I have to ask you did you
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  Speaker 1: get a nap in? Are you rested? I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: time did you guys get back in Tennessee Tuesday morning? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we are certainly flying commercially right now. We did travel
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  Speaker 1: and and did the game in Denver, got back very
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  Speaker 1: very early. I would say midday Ashland is probably the
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  Speaker 1: best way to put it. So I'm recovering now. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was exciting to be part of Monday
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  Speaker 1: night football. Not quite as exciting to be part of
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  Speaker 1: the late game on Monday night. I think maybe they
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  Speaker 1: should think about doing that with two West Coast teams. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: that should be the annual sort of plan for the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Just a suggestion now, twenty years ago, Mike, it would
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  Speaker 1: have been right when we were younger. Sure, when we
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  Speaker 1: were a young man sexton, we did not need to
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  Speaker 1: sleep at all. As older folks, it's a little more difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was fun. The the whole experience of
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  Speaker 1: going there and doing it in the way that we
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  Speaker 1: had to do it was sort of invigorating. Um, because
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  Speaker 1: there were there were a lot of things that from
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  Speaker 1: a broadcast standpoint, we were we were not. We did
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  Speaker 1: not have available to us. We didn't have as many people,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't have as much equipment. We had to be creative.
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  Speaker 1: We we knew we were going to have to get
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  Speaker 1: there on our own and do some things. And in
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  Speaker 1: some ways that was really a lot of fun. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of missed the other stuff, you know, the conveniences,
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  Speaker 1: but it was it was a good experience for us.
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  Speaker 1: We learned a lot. And I'll say this for the
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  Speaker 1: people in Denver, they were so helpful. I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: and and That's what we're really finding kind of freeware
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  Speaker 1: I think right now, is that people are really being cooperative,
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  Speaker 1: they're being thoughtful about things. Um you know, like even
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  Speaker 1: at our hotel, they were just like, Hey, if you
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  Speaker 1: need to stay an extra hour because the game's late,
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  Speaker 1: do that, no problem. And you just really appreciate that courtesy,
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  Speaker 1: and you certainly don't ever want to take that for granted.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I didn't I didn't see the game,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not aware was that stadium empty? Did they
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  Speaker 1: have any fans? And then how do you expect it
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  Speaker 1: to be for you personally on Sunday when there's not
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  Speaker 1: a fan in the stands at a place that generally
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  Speaker 1: has a heck of a crowd. Yeah, it was so strange.
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  Speaker 1: So we played in Denver last October, and Denver had
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  Speaker 1: sold out every home game since the NFL merger, and
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  Speaker 1: when we walked in there, it was as strange as
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  Speaker 1: anything you've ever seen, especially considering the trip that we
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  Speaker 1: had spent um back in back last October. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we all played den for every year and so I
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  Speaker 1: think it's one of the five best places to play
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. And then not have fans. Was so
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  Speaker 1: strange from the energy standpoint, the two you have two
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  Speaker 1: NFL teams warming up and there's nobody there, and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: are we at a scrimmage? Is this um? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Is this even real? It wasn't until the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the second quarter, Brian that it felt real. And so
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'll be used to that this week. We're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna play in front of fans the Titans um
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  Speaker 1: in the month of September. We we obviously did Denver.
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  Speaker 1: We're home this week, and then we go to Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: next week and they won't have any fans. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's hot. It is just odd from the energy standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: But once you get into it, you say, man, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just glad we're playing football. I'm just so thankful that
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  Speaker 1: we get the opportunity to be there and there's football
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  Speaker 1: going on. All right, Mike, Now going to the football team.
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  Speaker 1: Now that we've talked all about these fans, we talked
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  Speaker 1: a lot about Jadave and Clowney in this last block,
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  Speaker 1: and we listened to his press conference where he admitted
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  Speaker 1: he was a little bit rusty, which is kind of
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  Speaker 1: scary to Jaguars fans because he was impactful early on
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  Speaker 1: in the game. What have you seen from him? What
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  Speaker 1: can we expect from him on Sunday? And is it
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  Speaker 1: true that his progression kind of slowed down as the
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  Speaker 1: game went on on Monday? If it actually it felt
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  Speaker 1: like it did. Early in the game, he was so
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  Speaker 1: apparent and just so explosive. But he played forty seven
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  Speaker 1: of fifty nine plays, which is really remarkable considering he
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  Speaker 1: had been here less than a week. That he played
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  Speaker 1: nearly eighty percent of the play days. Um, the thing
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  Speaker 1: that the Titans had that ended up sort of selling
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  Speaker 1: him was Mike Vrabel. Now, obviously millions of dollars did
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  Speaker 1: that too, but Mike Vrabel and the fact that Mike
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  Speaker 1: Vrabel knows how to use him from their time together
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  Speaker 1: in Houston, and and that's what we saw there. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna use him in a number of different ways. It
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  Speaker 1: will be interesting to see if he's better in week
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  Speaker 1: two or if it's tougher because he played forty seven
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  Speaker 1: plays late Monday night, and so the Titans get one
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  Speaker 1: less day to get ready. But do you get it? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you you absolutely get who he is, what
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  Speaker 1: he is and what he brings to a defense. That
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: that already has some pretty good players and if Vic
• 18:51
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  Speaker 1: what I can't help but go back right and go ahead, John,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what are the overall expectations, busy? It's been
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a strange franchise from the outside yet four straight nine
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and seven seasons, which is an accomplishment, and then you
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  Speaker 1: make the n f C Championship Game. But it's a
• 19:18
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• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Perhaps you know our expectations Nashville around this team. I
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  Speaker 1: think be in the mix. I think that's what it
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: comes down to is I think everybody understands Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: is where they are with Patrick Mahomes right now. We
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  Speaker 1: f C Central, and they cost us a couple of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: super Bowl opportunities, and so the Titans getting to pay
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  Speaker 1: them back last year during the playoffs was kind of
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: sweet revenge in a way. But listen, Baltimore is not
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: going away. They're just not so you. I think the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: big thing right now, John is being the mix. Put
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: yourself in a position where you have a chance to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: win the a f C South and and that's obviously
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: goal one, because the Titans would desperately like to be
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: in a position where they could host a playoff game.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: The nine and sevens have all been different, and it's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: very strange because the first one in sixteen was unexpected.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: The second one in seventeen was a disappointment because it
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: was a team that was eight and four at the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: start of December and then lost to two teams on
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the West Coast that weren't very good, and you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: cost themselves a chance at the division. Ended up going
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs, but cost themselves a chance at the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: division in tight team that was a team that was
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit in transition, and Mike Vrabel's first year
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and then last year to start two and four and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: then to finish the way they did finishing nine and four,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that that ball club seemed to come together. So there,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: as I say, the expectation among fans, he is probably
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: better than nine and seven. But I don't think anybody's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: saying it's Super Bowl or bust. I don't hear that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: from from anybody except my dad, and he thinks we
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: should win every game. Always. Just one quick thought Mike
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: on Ryan Tannehill you know. I mean, so many franchises
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: draft quarterbacks, and we Titans, the Jaguars have been in
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: this mix where they haven't found the guy, and then
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here comes Tannehill, who most people
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: had written off. And is he the guy? I mean,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: do you get that sense that he is going to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: be the man there for the Lincoln his contract? I do,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I really do. And he he blew me away with
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: what he did last season, and and I get the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: stuff from the outside that he's got to show it
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: again because it was so over statistically what he had
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: ever done. But Brian, it seems like the right fit
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: at the right moment. The Titans are stable. I mean,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: we talked about four straight, nine and seven. They're stable.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: They have a stable front office, they have a stable
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: head coach. They have an offense that returns ten of eleven.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And he's in a place now. He's thirty two, he's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: got a couple of kids, he's played in this league.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: He's certainly seen the bad in his time. He's stable,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and he has taken over the mantle of the franchise
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: in terms of leadership both on and off the field.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: So I think they feel very strongly about where he
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: is right now. And and you know, he was the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: big reason they won the game Monday night. He made
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of great decisions down the stretch to to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: bring the team back and give them a chance to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: win the football game. I don't think he's gonna have
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a one seventeen passer rating every year, and I don't
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna average nearly ten yards per attempt. But
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: as we all know, you don't have to you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you being being good is plenty good enough. He does
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: not have to be otherworldly in terms of his statistical productivity.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's passer rating the other night was nine seven.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Hey give me that. That works fine. Take care of
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the football, make great decisions at the line of scrimmage.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: The other thing he has to Brian is, with all
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: of his experience and his smarts, his ability to call
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a game at the line of scrimmage is a is
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a big, big deal and something that the Titans have
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: not had with regularity since Matt Hasselbeck was the quarterback.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Inn alrighty should be a very exciting game Jaguars and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Titans on Sunday. Mike Keith, thanks so much for joining
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: us this morning. Best of luck to you. We won't
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: be in Nashville, but wishing you luck virtually of course
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: my pleasure. Thanks for having me on. Good to see you, Brian.
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• 27:51
  Speaker 1: yesterday for the whole crew was depending on tonight's Thursday
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: night football game Bengals and Browns. If Baker Mayfield continues
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to play like he is playing the host, the show
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: go on to say that Gardner Minshew is a better
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: quarterback than Baker Mayfield. It started this whole controversy for
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: some reason on Twitter, whether Baker Mayfield or Gardner Minshew
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: were the better quarterbacks. Guys, I really don't see a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: no brainer here, Brian, maybe you can attest this. I
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: think Gardner no brainer. And that's not us being biased. Yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I mean people get locked in on draft position, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you get locked in on a guy who's taken number
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: one overall. The only thing that Baker Mayfield has that
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minsho doesn't is a rocket for an arm. He's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: got a big arm. But in every other respect, Minsho
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: is the better quarterback. Let the numbers tell the story.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Look at the record, Minshew is a better quarterback than Mayfield.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: And sometimes even when you have the number one overall pick,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you just you blow it and it appears the brown did. Yes,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: very curious to see how that game plays out night
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football Bengals with Joe Burrow and Baker Mayfield
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: for John. If the Browns don't win tonight, I don't
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: want to know what happened to Cleveland. Well, and they
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: were sort of the vogue pick in nineteen and they
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: had that free agency you know, it's called the free
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: agency jenks. The team that's the most actively the big
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: expectations almost never works out. I thought they'd be better
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: this year. Um, they got tooled a little bit by
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Ravens are really good. They're gonna do
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that to people. But yeah, if if you go and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to lose to the Bengals, then all of a sudden
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: there will be some rethinking going on. So yeah, tough
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: times in uh in Cleveland. Well, you've got each of
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: whom were selected number one overall. I mean if if
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: if the rookie goes in there and beach Mayfield, I mean,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: whoa If Joe Burrow beats Baker Mayfield on Thursday Night Football,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I mean the northeast side of that stay, He's going
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to sink into Lake Erie And we're not even being
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: dramatic here that truly will happen. All right, let's wrap up.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Top Pro Football Hall of Fame dominations are out in
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Three former Jaguars are on the list. Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and of course Tony Basselli on that list as well.
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  Speaker 1: Johns Right know, Fred Taylor was on this list as
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  Speaker 1: well last season. But what do you think of these
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: nominations overall? Yeah, Jimmy has been on the list to
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the stage that just
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: gets the process going. Um. I think I'm hoping this
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: is Tony's year because I'm tired of chasing it. But
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  Speaker 1: I hope it's Tony's year because it should be by now.
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  Speaker 1: And I think something to watch for the next couple
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  Speaker 1: the same sort of momentum that Tony did a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years back. The more you look at Fred Taylor's career,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the more you turn on his tape, the better he's
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: gonna look. So I think that's something to watch for.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, those steps that you've got to take
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to get into the Hall, I think might start happening
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for Fred this year. Jimmy Smith is a Hall of
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Fame talent, but I don't see him making it because
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: there are so many receivers. I mean, this league became
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: a passing league, and he's certainly I mean it was
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: five time Pro bowler. I mean, he was as good
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: as a receiver as anybody in his time, with maybe
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the exception of Randy Moss, who you know is already
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Okay, but there are so
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: many receivers, and Jimmy played in Jacksonville, which is obviously
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the smallest market in the league, and I just don't
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: know that he's going to be able to overcome it.
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  Speaker 1: But does Jimmy Smith have Hall of Fame credentials? Absolutely,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: he has Hall of Fame credentials. It's just look at
• 31:54
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• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it would take Jimmy Smith to overcome the names that
• 32:02
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  Speaker 1: he is a Hall of Fame talent without question. Ask
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• 32:14
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