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Midsummer Check-in |a conversation between Ashley Pittman and Amy Wicks · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: This episode is sponsored by Super Summer Challenge.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whether you have one hour a week, one day a week, or 12 full weeks with your kids this summer, Super Summer Challenge is here to help you make the most of every minute.
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  SPEAKER_02: Our book, templates, online workshop, and personalized coaching will help you create more unplugged, purposeful, and intentional moments this summer.
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  SPEAKER_02: Instead of fighting against boredom, electronics all day long, or the crazy busy swirl of activities, Supersummer Challenge will help your kids learn new skills, build confidence, and strengthen family relationships.
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  SPEAKER_02: Find more at SupersummerCallenge.com.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: Hi friends, welcome to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today I get to be interviewed by the lovely Ashley Pittman.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is asking questions about our new online workshop that is finally open and ready.
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  SPEAKER_02: There has been a lot of blood, sweat, and tears poured into putting together this workshop with videos and printables and all sorts of tools and resources to help you create a Simply Summer.
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  SPEAKER_02: Part of the Simply Summer workshop is specific step-by-step instructions on how to create a super summer challenge.
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  SPEAKER_02: You may have heard me talk about a few times, both in episode number seven and 11, and it also is the sponsor for our show.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's really kind of how this whole idea all began.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was a tradition my mother-in-law started over 30 years ago, and we're still carrying it on today.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love getting to share this concept with my friends and family and share with others how you would create a super summer challenge.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I decided why not get it all in one place so that way people all over the country can also incorporate this fun family tradition that can be customized to however the time that works for you, the point system you want to use, and even how you chart it.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I have tons of different ideas in this workshop.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now Ashley is in the process of creating her super summer challenge for her kids, so she had lots of questions as she plans and prepares, both from uh what she's learned in the workshop and also what she's learning as she's puts it together.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I hope you enjoy this conversation between Ashley and I.
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  SPEAKER_02: Alright, we're here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Are you ready for this, friend?
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  SPEAKER_02: I think I am.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you are.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I am either.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, this is supposed to be just a fun, easygoing conversation, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: This will have to be easygoing.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: It will be.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we thought we'd just invite our friends to like kind of hear some behind the scenes, so to speak.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think that'll be really helpful.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think it I think it might be too.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what are we talking about today?
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  SPEAKER_01: We are talking about the super summer challenge, but not just the super summer challenge.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're talking about the course that you have developed for the super summer challenge to help people who are detailed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um what's the word?
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: What do you say?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh detail deficient.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not deficient.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, that is true.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, either way, people who struggle with details, such as myself, and probably not even just people who struggle with details.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just to help.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: In general.
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  SPEAKER_01: But for me, that's right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I this the idea behind the Simply Summer workshop was to kind of take my over seven years of how do I do a super summer challenge in my family?
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  SPEAKER_02: What does it really look like?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I've helped a lot of friends because people would see what I was doing and they're like, oh, tell me about the super summer challenge.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I've given the book.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes the book was all they needed and they ran with it.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_02: And then but there's plenty of times that we're like, um, so how do I do this?
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  SPEAKER_02: Explain to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Can I see it?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_01: I have read the book and I'm still clueless.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I think I mean the thing is, is we're most of us are visual learners.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it really helps to see it and have the hands-on experience of what you know, not to mention like all the different possibilities there are to carry out a super summer challenge.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's more of the idea behind it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So well, I think it was really good to see the step by step because for me, I can go into like almost just tears of frustration with anything that has a lot of steps and requires a lot without like what somebody just walk me through.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, first you do this and then you're gonna do this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh it's just easier that way.
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  SPEAKER_01: If somebody just like the book like do all this stuff, right, and I just my brain fries.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and now the book we're talking about is the book my mother-in-law wrote.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think about 10 years ago now, she wrote a book called The Super Summer Challenge based on her tradition.
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  SPEAKER_02: She started with her kids over 30 years ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's a simple book, it's short and to the point, and it is simple.
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  SPEAKER_02: But for and even give some charts and some pictures of that and ideas of what she did.
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  SPEAKER_01: But for me, I just needed a little something more.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's good.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I I did have a lot of fun um because I wanted to prepare one that I could do in person, but I thought, well, all the people that I've been telling about, you know, that or heard the idea of Super Summer Challenge, I can't travel to them and personally teach them, right, you know, do that three-hour workshop with them in person.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I thought, well, today, you know, we have all these different cool platforms that you can create this online workshop or course or school, whatever you want to call it.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I if I could figure out how to write it all out and um, you know, make all the printables and videotape, you know, the different teachings, then it would be a great way that anybody anywhere could do their own version of Super Summer Challenge.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I appreciated a lot of the printables.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was impressed with some of the I was like, oh, she actually thought to write that down.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, here's a list of ideas for this or that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, that would be so helpful.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I struggle even just to come up with different ideas because I think, well, right, me.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do I even want to challenge my kids to do?
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because that's just not.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, here we are, going with the flow, but you know, they need more than that.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it was really helpful.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Just some different um things that I saw that you had.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I that's how I work best is like I I mean, I just borrow from whatever's out there.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what Pinterest is, right?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: And we go and we type in, you know, and we get a visual, you know, picture of what it is that we're trying to like put together in our mind.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so anyway, uh I certainly used ideas I would be asking my sister-in-laws every year, okay, so what'd you do with this kid at this age, or what are you doing this year?
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: And how does it look, you know, and that's why I had um Jessica, my cousin-in-law, um, uh in episode 11 have her share because she did it a completely different way than I did.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_02: And okay.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_02: I yeah, loved learning from that.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: And kind of stealing stealing, borrowing her ideas.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: Why reinvent the wheel though?
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  SPEAKER_02: Really, for anyone.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's so true.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Why reinvent the wheel?
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: Stubbornness.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: There's no reason to be stubborn.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just do what works for somebody.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: I want to try.
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  SPEAKER_01: You may have to tweak it.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: There may be things that you you try maybe one year.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the other thing I appreciate I appreciate is that it's like, okay, so I tried this the first year and it looked like this, or maybe it didn't work so well, or maybe you can you can really tweak it, like maybe you should just do it for a week and just see how that goes, or maybe a month, or maybe you can just roll out and do the whole summer, or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's just so many options.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that's why I started because something I realized partway into a couple of my years of super summer challenge, it took me a couple times to do it the wrong way, where I'd planned this huge super summer challenge, but the summer was actually jam-packed with camps or VBS traveling company.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the kids didn't have enough time to accomplish their the set goal or reach it because they only had, you know, little bits of time here and there after their other activities and they were too tired.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so so I just thought, you know, some of some people are already fantastic at they keep a calendar all the time, whether it's on their phone or in paper, and they plan out their summer really well and they have a good idea.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm kind of one of those who um I'm a little bit of an idealist with my time, and I think I can get too much done.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so the whole the first two modules of the workshop just take you through um, well, really the first module and the first three lessons take you through um how like getting all the stuff on paper in front of you of how you already have like spent, so to speak, your time that you have for the summer.
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  SPEAKER_01: So like a time budget.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is like a time budget.
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  SPEAKER_02: I let's say that's how I operate better or like understanding it.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that way, that way you can see, oh, well, I only have a week to do super summer challenge, or I need three months of a super summer challenge because you have nothing else going on.
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  SPEAKER_02: Which is probably not most of us.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I I'm guessing that very few of us can just, you know, like feel like we have nothing to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're not traveling, we are doing nothing all summer.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm always amazed because they do go, Oh, we're not doing anything this summer.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: And then you start looking at it and you're like, oh my god, there's really.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: There really is CBS.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's tutoring, there's all the things that like swim lessons or great things.
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  SPEAKER_02: It really is.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's just it gets full.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: So and you have to have it in front of you, or you don't know.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: You really don't.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you said you mentioned the module thing.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: So how about let's talk about that?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think there's what, like five modules.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: Is that right?
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: There is.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so why don't you just break it down just kind of what they can expect and just kind of give an overview.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep, five modules.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the first one we're going through and we're really mapping out your time and getting that on cal on the calendar.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then the second one, or at the end of that one, we do a little bit of dreaming because you know, we're kind of really serious and all of that, and we have to, you know, do the nitty-gritty.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: But then I also want you to start thinking about all the fun things that you want to do, not only for yourself, but with your kids before they like, you know, leave the nest, so to speak, right someday in the future.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because I I think when we start looking at our time, we realize, oh man, we only have like we really only have such a limited amount of time.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's sometimes, you know, that whole like the the days are long, the years are short kind of idea.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: That is really true because when we're looking at it can feel so overwhelming and we, you know, like this, they're gonna be in our house forever and we're gonna have all this time.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: But once we get to a certain point, we look back and we're like, wow, that actually went by really fast.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's totally true.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel like a 19-year-old, yeah.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: So Yeah, you really get the redeeming the time.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I think you know, maybe some people have already done this where they kind of have their bucket list for their family where they go, We want to make sure we go to all the national parks in the US.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: And or, you know, maybe I want to teach my kids how to sail boats.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, maybe I actually my husband has a cousin who they do that.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like they live in Florida.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, see, and they sail boats and they like do races and stuff.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: It does.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds really fun.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: That could be the convincing factor.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like that could be the tipping point.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: Spencer wants to move to Florida.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, maybe.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so it's he he wants to move in your own.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I it's pretty much there.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's already muggy enough here.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: But I'd have to live right on the ocean to make it worthwhile.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think we could afford that.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you walk outside cooked.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: The water's not right there, that would be hard.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: Florida was meant for vacation, and that's it.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: We sidetracked.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: Bucket list.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: Dreaming.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so bucket lists.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, so one of the things on my bucket list, uh I I would love to, and this is a real big dream, but I'd love to take my kids on a tour of the entire United States.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'd love to get them to every single state.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: We've covered a lot of territory in their like little bit amount of time, but I I look at one of my oldest, and we don't have that many years left.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: And if that's really gonna be on my bucket list, how am I intentionally gonna go after it?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I don't just want to write it down for the sake of writing it down.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the whole process is wanting you to write things down, not just for the sake of writing it down, but to like look at it and go, do I really want to do that?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_02: And is that really important?
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: And if it is, how do I make it happen?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: So um that's like that's the first module.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then the second module is talking about um some of the things that you need to do uh with your kids.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um we talked about already the idea of tutoring.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, some of us need to make sure that we still are doing that in the summer.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we have maybe the book list that they need to accomplish.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe we need to get swim lessons.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe we're preparing for a new little sibling.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe, you know, you're gonna have an uh an addition to the family.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so the summer is about preparing for that.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: I what that was what prompted my first super summer challenge was we were preparing for a little sibling and we needed to do some good habit training.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: Order and habits.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, order habits, yep.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: So we talk about putting those on the schedule and the um we start talking about how you know when you write these down, what that how those might help you when you plan a super summer challenge.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like you could do the first two modules and you could already have a real beginning to a simply summer, um, where if that is all you had the capacity to do, you would be like you would be doing so much better for your summer of just like finding some order and schedule and um and then the next three, we talk about I call the third one summer style, choosing your summer style.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: And we go through all the different types of super summer challenges that I have personally done.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: And kind of the different ways you can do that from the traditional chart that Linda Wicks did over 30 years ago with her good friend to um creating like a summer camp where if you have a staycation planned or you only have one week to do a super summer challenge, how you might plan out kind of time block, two hour, three hour blocks in the day where you are doing either a fun activity or learning activity or stations for your kids and incorporating um some of the need to do, the one-to-do, um, and you know, all the the kind of the big fun things that you want to make sure you do with your kids this year.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I kind of give examples for all of those, from pictures to talking about it or sharing personal stories.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then the last two modules are actually building and writing your super summer challenge.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: So because the whole point of this is not just to talk about the ideas, but it walks you through it step by step.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: So by the end of the workshop, you have your supersummer challenge ready to go.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: So the plan is in front of you written down.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: We even talk about breaking down the points because the points is something that I kind of get stuck on every year.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_02: And even this year, we are gonna have to adjust them.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: Okay it's just I put a really high goal.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and um, it wasn't high enough.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: So they're they're like full of.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: They're motivated.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: They're really motivated.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: And they know what their prizes are already.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: They know what their prizes are this year.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: This year we did a little differently.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: We um had well well, actually what kind of started it is that our our oldest, her, the bike um that she has, the chain keeps falling off.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: Little brother does like to be the hero and you know, fixes it often, but it's kind of getting old and it's kind of getting small.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: She has had it since she was five.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so she's a tall girl.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's tall.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: Emily was really big for her then, but now it's definitely on the small side.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: So she's ready for a new bike, and I was like, I'm not gonna just you don't just buy a kid a new bike.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's not how our family rolls.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so we decided, you know, why don't we make that the price?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: And she earns like the tire, the handlebar.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: She has a little like thermometer chart.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't actually break down the bike, but we like the last wheel.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe the next tier.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: That'd be so cool.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, she's my motivated one though.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, she got that chart.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think in the first night she had earned 20 points or something ridiculous.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, so we kind of just broke it down incrementally just for fun, not a literal, she doesn't get a literal tiger.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's a chart where she can see how she's coming along on her challenges.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: So she'll by the end of it, she'll get her 10-speed bike or whatever it is it's called these days.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: She kind of has it picked out in her mind.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: She's found one at Target or Walmart, you know.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um and yeah, so she's really motivated.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_02: So that kind of prompted the idea.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, why don't we try this year the individual challenges, but then also let's make because I wasn't sure how motivated my six-year-old, almost seven-year-old boy was gonna be.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: You're right.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Good reasons.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: I needed to make sure his sisters put a little bit of pressure on him.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so we created a family challenge, a reward.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_02: So cumulatively, like together, they have to reach certain levels for a vacation we're gonna do at the very end of the summer to earn special things during our vacation.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like a bike ride as a family.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: Ice cream.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, don't tell my kids this.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like we probably would have done these things anyway.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right, but they're not gonna be a good thing.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: But now they're earning it.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: It'll need more kids.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, it will.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: So just fun little like making a sand castle with mom and dad.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like, maybe that sounds chincy, but they are so excited about that.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: You sit out there and they just do their thing and you're chilling, or just trying to make sure nobody drowns or exactly.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: So that's a big deal if you get down in the dirt with them.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and that's the whole idea of the challenges is prompting more family memories, things together.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just about like, okay, she gets her bike.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's about we're doing things together in the process, whether we're learning or rewarding together.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the family challenge, just for my own sake, yeah.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: How are you gonna make sure that Miles gets in on it?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, he has actually had buy-in and his his rewards, um, how I did it with them, and and this is where like the idea of going to a bike is a big deal and it took a lot of points.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: And so, how did we make this equal for the other kids?
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: Cause also monetarily, I mean, the nine-year-old is smart enough to go, hey, wait a minute.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: Should buy costs this amount.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: So for for them, we did increments as well, but instead of like earning a tire, a piece of their ultimate prize, they were getting special little dates as seriously, like jump on the trampoline with daddy for 15 minutes.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Daddy doesn't really like doing that.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_02: Mom certainly doesn't like doing that, but the kids love it.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: And so, um, fishing with daddy, going on a date, um, getting to feed um the baby goats at Deanna Rose, which is this local kids like petting zoo place, farmhouse thing.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, whatever you want to call it.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so just some simple little things that kind of went along with stuff that we already wanted to do, things they talk about doing that we wouldn't normally do.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, or maybe are just extras to what we would normally do.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: If that makes sense.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: So they're they're motivated.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the goal was 200 points.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: All together.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's your family goal.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Does each one have to bring a certain number of points?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they each have to bring the same amount, like incrementally.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: If he doesn't bring his 200 points, they don't get they each have to bring 200.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: I thought 200 was like the whole pot.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, like they all have to reach it.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: So as they reach a certain number number, they're earning the family reward.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: So he can move as slow as he wants on his if he's not motivated.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: But the girls are gonna want to like make sure we reach the goal by vacation so they can enjoy the family by grade.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, they are.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: So sometimes a little too good.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: Positive peer pressure.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: Peer pressure.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, positive peer pressure.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: That can be good.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: So I so yeah, so yeah, I'm glad you'll be talking about this in um in the course in the modules because that's where I started getting confused was the points.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then, like, okay, so are they earning prizes along the way?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you get X number of points, and then you get to make one thing, and then do those points go away, or do they add into the big one?
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's like all that like breaking it down, yeah.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and so I in the workshop point out and go, there are more than one way to skin this cat.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: So you could do it several ways, and I give different chart ideas and different methods of madness, if you will, yeah, for to how to do it.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: And what I say, the kind of three factors to to think about one is the age of your kids and their understanding of a number numeric system.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you want to take that into account, and also how long can they go before they see, you know, like what will incentivize them?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like ASAP.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: So what I did, because even this philosophy we we did with um giving commission to the kids as they were learning money, yeah, responsibility.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: And so when they were little, as soon as they clean their room or whatever chore they were doing, they get the money immediately.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: As they get older, they wait until payday, whatever day that is.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like getting a paycheck.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: And they get their commission then.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um so for when the first time we did the super summer challenge, the girls were two and three, really young, barely getting the concept, but they had potty trained, you know, so they they kind of they got the incentive.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: They only had to wait a week to cash it in.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: Cash in their price.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: And so I know uh one of my sister-in-laws, she would plan like go to Chuck E.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: Cheese on Friday, and the kids worked for that.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: If they had a certain number of points, then they all got to go to Chuck E.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: Cheese.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: And along with that, they got a certain amount of kind of coins or you know, kind of whatever.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I just did at the end of that.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't think my kids have ever been to Chuck E.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: Cheese.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: Is that wrong?
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: I think that I think that's true, yeah.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: I may have deprived them.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Stay out of that.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's okay, it's not my favorite place to go.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's better than Dave and Buster's.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Do you is so loud.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: Is it crazy?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's just so loud.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, uh the last time I think I went to Chuck E.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: Cheese was for a like um not a bridal shower, but uh the rehearsal dinner.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Are you joking?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_02: Rehearsal dinner, I kid you not.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_02: I am not I'm really sad to say they the marriage didn't last long.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um maybe a replenishment maybe something was going on.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was just thinking, when was the last time I went to Chuck E.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: Cheese?
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was literally the for man part.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Usually the the husband part.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's for the rehearsal dinner at Chuck E.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: Cheese.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: So my kids and herb in Chuck E.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Cheese.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so we did things like I know we could.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um so we did uh do like ice cream cone, date with daddy, yeah, real simple little reboards when they were little.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so now, and then we even moved to a month.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: So we did like things for a month that they could earn earn a prize for.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: And then last year I made it really confusing and I let them cash in points as we went.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: So that's yeah, that's what I was picturing in my head.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, that gets feels chaotic.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's where I kind of swung around to this year for me and how it worked better was this chart where incrementally they don't like cash in, but as they reach a certain level, they get some sort of, yeah.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: And have you predecid?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like at this level, this is it.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's this sort of thing.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm seriously, like at 30 points, it was jumping on the trampoline with daddy for 15.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: At 60, it was getting to go fishing.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, at 90, you know, kind of in those things up to the point the up to the 200 that their ultimate prize was.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: So that's smart.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: That makes total sense.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: It was really fun.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: And it was really fun because then knowing my kids well now, knowing what their love languages are, yeah.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and what would motivate them and encourage them, and and maybe even some fun things that we really did want to do with them.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: I could customize it to each kid.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's so good.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it seemed like there was a little bit of a love language flow in some of the um oh, what was it?
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe deciding what kind of a parent you are in like are you the sh you like to shop parent or the whatever.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: I felt like there was a little love language flow in there.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: It definitely is.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: So it would line up with kind of that makes sense to me.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: In fact, I've thought about doing um maybe even creating like a a little free uh workshop or course um to kind of do before even you do the super summer challenge about the love languages.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: I am no expert, but just kind of talking about it.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you don't have time to read the book, how can you get in, I don't know, two or three quick little lessons how to figure out what love language your kids speak and and kind of compare it to you as a mom.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and because the idea is we we receive and give differently.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: And we certainly receive and give differently than our kids.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean all the time I'm surprised.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: In fact, I just had um I got this journal for my oldest that it's like a mom-daughter journal, and that's part of her super summer challenge, what way she can earn points.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: And it was holding me accountable to do some journaling with her.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: That was really good.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: And one of the things they had to do was um a quick little survey, and you each take about what your love language was.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: And it was fascinating because obviously I'm apparently very needy.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: I need all the love languages.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, actually, I had I definitely scored really high in one and the other ones were pretty equal.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but she had some distinct ones.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: And it reminded me that, oh yeah, she shows her love differently than she actually receives it.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think we can swap those a couple times like different times, because sometimes we give it differently than what actually feed the serves us well.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: And so that can be a little bit miscommunicating when we're trying to decipher what our kids' love languages are.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I read it and I actually had a couple aha moments with hers um that that had us go, okay, Paige.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: So once you reach your super summer challenge, which she's gonna do before the end of it, is I'm gonna do another one for you and we'll do all sorts of quality time.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what she's after.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is what she's after for sure.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, wow.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: So, and that quality time rewards are easy, they're free.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: It just asks us some sacrifice of time, which we need to give anyway.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and she'll be motivated once again.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: And we did talk about I'm like, I'm gonna take off some of the m easier points and I'm gonna make sure we're like the mind points are a little less exciting for my kids to earn.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if that's because they're homeschooled or just their attitude towards school.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm their teacher all the time and school happens in our home all the time.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm driven that way.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so they look at those and they're like, I don't want to do that.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: Except for summer reading is about the only thing I can get one of them to do.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: Just one of them.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm kind of bigging the other ones.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um so anyway, we did talk about that.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: If you finish it, we're gonna I'll I'll create another reward chart for you.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: And then we're gonna So was she excited about that?
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: She was.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: And because she was a little jealous about those 15 minutes on the trampoline.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, was she?
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: She was, and a couple of the other little dates.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Was she more jealous about that than the bike?
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think she was almost willing to trade it in.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like she was that like she was excited, but and it was just the whole thing kind of happened simultaneously where she took that test and she was kind of going, you know, mom, do you think you could, you know, give me some of those?
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: And so it was so sweet.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because get well, see, because see the gifts is a huge love language thing for her.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I thought the bike would satisfy that and meet that.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_02: But no.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: She does love to give gifts and she does love to get them.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: But the quality time actually So that was a learning, that was eye-opening.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: It was.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I had a good idea.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: That love language thing probably really good to do before.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, if you don't have time, it's fine.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it would.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: But it would be helpful.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, I think it's definitely something down the road, another, you know, one of my one of the main things.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: This woman spends a lot of plates.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you people know this, but she has a lot going on all the time.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: I I do like to stay busy.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: And she does it well.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you, friend.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate that.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very excited.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: This is why we meet for coffee at five in the morning.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: Five in the morning is when there's time.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm happy to do it.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's good.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm thrilled to do it.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so that's so as you can see, like I think this workshop will be ever expanding, growing, changing, yeah, being refined.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, because there's just so many ways you can do this.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I know that um, and that's what I love about the online community idea, and I'd love to expand it more.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Eventually, I'd love to create a a private Facebook group that goes with this where someone um someone else who's running it and it's just this idea sharing place where people are posting what they've done and how it looks this year and things they're you know buying for their kids on sale at Target, you know, right now that's on clearance.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know, because the middle of the year, when you start thinking about super summer challenge, you can buy some good gifts.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: Because once you've done this and you and like you've done it this year, and then you know you're gonna do it next year, then you can start keeping your eyes open for those kind of things along the way too.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: At the end of each season or you know, at post-Christmas, or you know, like, oh, I'm gonna get that and that'll be a great prize or whatever.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, and you can even, I think also when you're doing school and maybe you have some time to like they're at school and you have some more time, breathing room from your kids, you might gain some perspective of like, oh, I want to make sure I do this with my kids next summer, or oh, they really need more of this.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, and so that's just a great place to, you know, continue to encourage the like write in your notebook for next summer.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, this is yeah, this is what you need to do.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: And um So it'd be good to have a running notebook.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Just kind of have a place that you write down on your absolutely ideas.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_02: I do, I mean, I have a planner, I'm kind of like old fashioned, I still like the pen and paper.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, paper.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I do keep kind of those notes and every once in a while talk to you know, daddy to see, you know, okay, what are you thinking?
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_02: What do you see in, you know, which we put on the super summer challenge list.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, so you know, that's just the great thing about the online community is I'd love to build that.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, someday I'd love to have an app for the super summer challenge.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be fantastic.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: That would be awesome.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: It would be just so simple.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: Everything would be built in and um it would be ready to go.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: So someday for those who love I personally, I'm probably still gonna be a, you know, again, like I'll have it visual for the kids uh and for me, but I know for so many people just be a great way to have the tracker on the phone that you can just you know, plug in the points or whatever, or maybe or as the kids get older, yeah.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's something that they do on their own devices and that sort of thing.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that would be so simple.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: So are you ready to start your super summer challenge?
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm working on it.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm ready.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: So where are you kind of your kind of the point thing is where you're not too sure?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I was saying of.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I need to really kind of figure out what I want him to what challenges I want him to do.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of mine are gonna be in the area of reading.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'd want them to read certain classic books instead of you know, like we talked about Captain Underpants and like I can't even I know.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it's fine, whatever if they want to read those now and then, but I just need them to read some like chronicles of Narnia or something with some substance.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: Even some old uh and nothing have to be that.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, right.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of where I am, because they're not motivated to read that kind of stuff.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, if it's not about an animal or like underwear, I don't want to read it.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: Or bodily functions.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so I want to expand their minds and their hearts and their spirits, and so I'm trying to figure that out.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: So there's that, and and you know, we've got we've kind of got the a root a little bit of a routine down already, you know.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: You get your screen time, you have to read for 20 minutes, you do some exercise or creativity, you do Bible time, whatever.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: What do you certain things that they have to do?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: Now, did you come up with that on your own?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I know I I'm sure I saw some samples or something somewhere that helped trigger me.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, those were just the certain the few things I thought, okay, if they do these things, I'm pretty happy.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: And they're very motivated.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they get up in the morning and Christopher's like right off the bat.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: But I have them do a seven minute cleanup.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because I thought ten minutes, they'll complain.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: Five minutes is too short, but I thought, okay, if I can get a seven minute burst.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: That was a good idea.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: If you have stuff down here that goes in your room, take it up.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: If you can do a little straightening and it works.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: And they're motivated.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: So they set their own timers and they're that's great anyway.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just been really good.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: So um, and that's new.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm not a structure person.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: I like the freedom and flexibility, but it's really when you have children, that's not necessarily the best.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, yeah.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: And we've definitely because it's a few weeks before, um, just because of the homeschooling, I usually don't have the capacity to plan the super summer challenge before we're done with school.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: Some people can have it ready to go right after, you know, like their kids hop off the bus the last day of school.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: I do not.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: So I need several weeks where we just have a set routine and structure.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like most of our day may not look the same, but they know what's expected of them before a certain time or before they even dare ask me to tr watch a show, which is always a joke.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: Which usually for them, honestly, it takes all day long to get to it.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like they don't want it badly enough, which is kind of nice because they end up getting lost in creativity, playing with other things, or we're gone to other things, and the whole like they're not asking me to watch a show or telling me they're bored.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: But that's good though, but they're doing it.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: So that's good.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: And they work together amazingly sometimes.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: Let's do cleanup together.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Possible peer pressure, or they'll do creativity, and then maybe they're just coloring with chalk all over the driveway, but they're doing it together.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: And they're not, you know, like punching each other or you know, there's no like whatever.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: So it's great, even though it's just a few moments is um worth it.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's great.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, it'll be perfect.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: So you'll be ready to go after you get back from vacation.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: And you have kind of like, oh, vacation's done.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: We'll probably have a good month where we can really do it and and I don't know if I'll have time to think about it over the vacation.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe while I sit on the beach.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: I can plan a super summer challenge.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you want to do with your time.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: Sand castles and I mean, whatever.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: My mind never stops.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: So my mind is always going.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I could just be doing things with my brain.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good idea.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: So at least, but yeah.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, so I don't know.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm still trying to come up with the challenges and and things.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, again, it's mostly reading and certain things like that.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: But well, a mom asked me in the workshop that I did several weeks ago.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I did it with a small group of women, and most of them had younger kids.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_02: So some of the charts, like I was showing what we were doing this year, were gonna be way too long for their kids.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, uh, start with four or five challenges.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: It does not have to be that many.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: It can really be as easy.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: Read for 20 minutes, right?
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: Memorize these scriptures.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, swim swim X number of laps across the board.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of got them on that track too.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: Read your Bible, you know, and when you read your Bible, you get these amount of points up.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: Just super simple.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, so I I think, you know, it's kind of like start small.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_02: And then there's the bingo idea that we have that we loved that.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: Wrote for Radiant Church, our church here.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: He came right home and started taking these off immediately.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: It was great.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I I liked the bingo chart.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: I did that a couple different years.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I did, I think I did them a month at a time.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so every time they earned a bingo, they earned a prize.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that year I had a couple, like I had a prize bucket um or prize, you know, treasure chests where they could pick out something.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: But it it made it really easy, very visual, cross these off.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: I helped them build some strategy too, because they're like, oh, if I do this, this, and this, of course, I strategically I was gonna say, I feel like I'm gonna have to strategically place right in the middle of that row of simple is gonna be like something hard.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: Something you don't want to do.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, that's what I did.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I did, yeah, for sure.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_02: And it was funny to see what they kind of put off for a little bit.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: All the rows that are half done.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: But the price was anyway.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_02: I the bingo chart, the super summer challenge bingo that we did for reading, I thought um was just a really fun.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we put real simple things there that any family could do with their kids.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: And um, do you know what's bad though?
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_02: Because we keep losing our copy.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, we have our three copies.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_02: A couple of people took ours for different reasons.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, wait a minute, we didn't end up with one.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, I'm looking on my computer.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, guys, this is this is what you gotta do.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: This is the scripture you gotta memorize.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: I really like that.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: I may even just use that.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: I may just do one of those.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: You really should.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the the back part is empty.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I purposely left it blank so that way parents could create their own super summer challenge and then just run with that.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's what you should do, Ashley.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: You could take this with you on vacation and you're good to go.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: The car, they can accomplish so much in that car.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: They absolutely could.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: So you could do a oh because it's a long drive.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hours or something.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: So you should purposely put things on for during vacation.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: So you could start.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_02: You could start this weekend.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: Totally.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: You're good to go.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_02: I've solved a lot of problems for you.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: You have.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: This has been a great conversation for me.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: If none of y'all get anything out of it, it certainly helped me, though.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think you'll get something out of it.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and so I may not have as pretty of templates because I had someone design for who works with the church design the templates we use for radiant.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: But I do have ones that are pre-made, empty, ready for you to go on the workshop as well.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: That is awesome.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: And maybe what I'll do is link up in the show notes to this one.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: That chart.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: If someone's like, oh, I could print off a super summer challenge bingo and write it in and figure it out from our conversation.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: So it's really not rocket science.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the idea is none of this is to be like cleverly disguised, or somehow you have to know some great secret formula to figure out how to do a super summer challenge.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like except it was really hard for me.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: So if it's close to rocket science, no, it's not.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's one of those things like I'm like so smart that I don't know how to do simple things like Albert Einstein.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so fidgety in my chair right now.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_01: I know that's what it is.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_01: You crack me up.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: I have to say also that one of the things I was distracted by when I was watching your videos is your hair looked really awesome.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_01: You were having good hair days.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: And your hair was really shiny.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: How much is it?
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: How did she get her hair so shiny?
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: My hair's maybe it was greasy.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: I well, it was working.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever it was, I thought my hair never looked shiny.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: Can I tell you those videos were about my death?
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like I they were almost, they were they were almost the death of me.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's the right phrase.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's the terminology that I wanted to use.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: Andrew, make a note of that.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: Edit that out.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, or not, leave it in.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: Leave it.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's whatever.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, they were almost the death of me.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, it was all the updates.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I had to like, I don't like video.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: This is why I do a podcast.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, likes video.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_02: I do podcasts.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know who people do people who like videos.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: I know plenty of people do, but that's right.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not one of them.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not one of them either.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: So it took a lot of emotional prep and it took prep to get the house quiet.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: That was my other question.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: Where were all the people?
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no one was there.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, actually, there was a couple times that I did have Spencer and I said, Hide them in our room.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: Keep them quiet.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um tape over their mouth.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so they that did go pretty well.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I just had problem I had like I had every technological thing that could go wrong, that they went wrong.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so I definitely, if I ever redo this, I'm hiring professionals and getting some help.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: But even uploading.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like our internet wasn't like cooperating, and I had to go to Starbucks and steal theirs.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: Sit and wait and wait.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's a I think that was really slow at Starbucks.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: So they have Google Fiber, but still it's not fast.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: No, and that we have Google Fiber too, but it wasn't fast enough.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, all that to say, um, yeah, so I do have videos in there for those of you who are more visual audio learners.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: And there was some good, there was a lot of written out details.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: I did.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: I wrote out everything.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: There was everything.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_02: Painstakingly.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: Again, you know, like it could be better.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: But and then and all the printables as well to go along with it.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_02: So you could follow along with a printout in your hand and you could print out what you also need if you're going to use a pre-printed template right in the process.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: Because again, why reinvent the wheel?
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: Why reinvent the wheel?
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: Why would you do that?
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: You could.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: There's already a wheel.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: But it works just fine.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: It does.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, caveman or whoever it was.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, caveman.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: That reminds me of those old BC.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: Did you ever used to read the BC comics?
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: And it was always something about a wheel.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: I just remember there always being some like a wheel thing.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: So okay.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's going away back.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so you're ready.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: You can start your Supersummer challenge this weekend.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: Presumably, yes.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the potential is there.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think I get home and get it done.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, ask the hubby, hey, do you have one or two things?
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_02: And how would you like to reward the kids?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I think that is really important.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: Is it invite um you know, grandparents, f you know, other family, friends, teachers.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if you're at a loss, if you can't find it on Google Yeah.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Ask the teacher what needs to be happening this summer for them to not have the brain drain when they come back in the summer.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: When they head back, which yeah, uh definitely need to motivate them a little bit more.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I need to add some more.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I was thinking, is I need to add maybe some more points on the mind list category to kit keep my kids motivated.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: So all right.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a wrap.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's a wrap.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: Well, guys, I did have fun uh getting to share a little bit of what I've been uh working on these last few months and really over a good year now.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: Excited to finally have it be available for others to enjoy and learn from.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: If you enjoyed this episode, you might enjoy listening to find out more about the Super Summer Challenge in both episode number seven and eleven.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_02: I hope that you're encouraged to maybe try out a super summer challenge or at least create a simple schedule to help you enjoy every moment that you have with your kids.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: So until next time, I hope you find more ways to live um plugged, purposeful, and intentional.