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Gordon Chang | Author & Geopolitics Expert Says Iran Poses a Far Greater Threat to the U.S. Than President Trump Has Disclosed · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Gordon G. Chang, you got to follow this guy on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: at Gordon G. Chang. And we talk China, we talk Russia,
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  Speaker 1: we talk Iran. I'm telling you, nobody better. Nobody. Gordo,
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  Speaker 1: good morning, buddy. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine, and thank you so much, Sid.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome, my friend. So I saw this on your
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  Speaker 1: Twitter account again, at Gordon G. Chang. Follow Gordon today.
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  Speaker 1: You'll be smarter. You're stupid already. Get smarter. Here is
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  Speaker 1: Gordon's post. Iran poses a far greater threat to the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: than President Trump has disclosed. On our soil, Iranian agents
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  Speaker 1: are in position to strike. In Iran, the regime has
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  Speaker 1: all the components for an intercontinental ballistic missile. Trump was
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  Speaker 1: right to hit that regime. So good job you managed
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  Speaker 1: to credit Trump and not Trump in the same tweet.
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  Speaker 1: But the part of the tweet that made me nervous
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  Speaker 1: was on our soil. Because my guess is, if they
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  Speaker 1: are here in big numbers, it's got to be New York.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a fair assumption?
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  Speaker 2: That's a fair assumption. We know that during the Biden administration,
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  Speaker 2: when he gave clemency to Iranian agents, he allowed three
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  Speaker 2: of five of them to remain on American soil. That,
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  Speaker 2: to me, is incomprehensible because we know the Iranian agents
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  Speaker 2: are here. We know that they have been trying to
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  Speaker 2: track down and assassinate Trump-era State Department officials. So State
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  Speaker 2: Department officials from the first administration, they have been hounded
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  Speaker 2: by the Iranians, and they are looking to kill them
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  Speaker 2: from all that we can tell. So for Biden to
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  Speaker 2: have let certain of them stay here just is absolutely wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Clinton did the same thing with Osama bin Laden. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he had him two or three times, he let him go,
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  Speaker 1: and then Osama... destroyed the World Trade Center, so it
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  Speaker 1: seems to be the trend for these Democrat presidents. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people who are against the war, well, they
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  Speaker 1: hate America, they hate Trump, but they go, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been hearing for 30 years, Gordon, I've been hearing
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  Speaker 1: for 30 years, Iran is making a bomb, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: supposed to believe now they're closer than ever? I've also
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  Speaker 1: been hearing for a long time that Iran is here,
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  Speaker 1: Hezbollah is here, and to be honest, we have attacks,
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  Speaker 1: we have a bunch of them, but a large-scale attack
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  Speaker 1: We haven't seen that now in 25 years. What are
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  Speaker 1: they waiting for exactly?
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  Speaker 2: I think they're waiting for the go signal. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the Iranians have their agents here, but the Chinese certainly do.
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  Speaker 2: And the Chinese clearly are planning mass casualty events. We
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  Speaker 2: know that because authorities tipped off by local citizens found
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  Speaker 2: two secret Chinese biological weapons facilities in the United States.
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  Speaker 2: One was a full-blown lab in Reedley in the Central
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  Speaker 2: Valley of California, and the other was a storage facility
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  Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. And judging what we found in Las
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  Speaker 2: Vegas on January 31st of this year, there's got to
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  Speaker 2: be a third secret facility in the United States. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is biological weapons. These are biological weapons.
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  Speaker 2: Those are mass attacks, which means they're planning to kill
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Americans. And the Chinese are just waiting
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  Speaker 2: for the go signal.
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  Speaker 1: What is it going to take to get there? In
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  Speaker 1: other words, what do the Chinese need to see before
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  Speaker 1: they give this dreaded ghost signal?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's two things. First of all, I think that
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  Speaker 2: if they believe that war is imminent in East Asia,
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  Speaker 2: that war is not, in my view, is not going
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  Speaker 2: to start in East Asia. It's going to start someplace
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  Speaker 2: in the Western Hemisphere, either in the Panama Canal— that' s a
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  Speaker 2: long conversation— or more likely on American soil, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: both at the same time. The other thing is they're
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  Speaker 2: looking to see the view of the administration, the American public,
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  Speaker 2: whether we are willing to take down those networks. And
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  Speaker 2: so far, administration to administration, Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives,
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  Speaker 2: we have not been willing to take down those agents, operatives,
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  Speaker 2: and soldiers on our soil. So the Chinese don't really
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  Speaker 2: respect us.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. And here we go. There's a possible meeting next week.
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  Speaker 1: We're hearing about it with Trump, Putin and President Xi.
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  Speaker 1: Then he'll be here to President Xi in December, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: for the G20 in Miami. So we got a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of face to face meetings coming up with Trump and
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  Speaker 1: the Chinese president. What do you see happening there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not much. I mean, nothing very much happened in
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  Speaker 2: May when Trump went to Beijing. Not very much happened
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  Speaker 2: when Xi Jinping came to Washington last month. The Chinese
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  Speaker 2: right now are not in the mood to deal. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we saw this because they had a three-day summit last
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  Speaker 2: month on our soil. The substantive portions of that three-day
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  Speaker 2: summit were less than two hours. You take out the
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  Speaker 2: translation time, it means there was less than an hour
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  Speaker 2: for meaningful conversation. Wall Street Journal reported that the Chinese
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  Speaker 2: turned down a working lunch. They weren't here to talk.
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  Speaker 2: They were here to get the televised images of Trump
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  Speaker 2: honoring Xi Jinping. So, yeah, there might meet, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't see that there's going to be very much progress.
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  Speaker 2: I hope there's progress. You'd think that after two big
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  Speaker 2: summits that they would be willing to come up with
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  Speaker 2: some sort of major concessions. But we have yet to
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  Speaker 2: see it.
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  Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Trump was that tough on Zelensky again?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, here's Putin. He's doing whatever the hell he wants.
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  Speaker 1: He's killing people every day. You know, you get these
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  Speaker 1: morons who talk about Israel. They put Israel and genocide
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  Speaker 1: in the same sentence. No, no. There's genocide happening. It's Putin.
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  Speaker 1: It's Russia. And I've never been a big fan of Zelensky, okay?
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  Speaker 1: I think he really enjoys the spotlight too much. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he likes to be on magazines and come on the
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  Speaker 1: Academy Awards and... I just don't see how that's possible
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But, but, him and his
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  Speaker 1: people are putting up a very courageous battle against a
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  Speaker 1: guy who's a terrible person in Putin. So I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out why Trump is so quick to get
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  Speaker 1: mad at Zelensky when Putin is the real bad guy,
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  Speaker 1: unless that's his strategy to kind of be nicer to
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  Speaker 1: the real enemy. I don't know. You tell me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the answer. And the only person
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  Speaker 2: who can answer that is President Trump himself. But we
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  Speaker 2: know that because we are no longer providing advanced warning
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  Speaker 2: of Russian attacks, that Russia is deliberately killing Ukrainians.
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  Speaker 1: You mean when Elon Musk took down the Starlink, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right. And Elon Musk is unlikely to have done that
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  Speaker 2: on his own. As a matter of fact, SpaceX has
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  Speaker 2: said no, they did not do that on their own initiative. Well,
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  Speaker 2: there's only one other party that could have required that. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was the Trump administration.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I agree with you. You know, when you
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  Speaker 2: look at Gaza and, you know, yes, civilians are dying,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not dying because Israel is targeting them. They
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  Speaker 2: are dying because Hamas has used them as human shields.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's not genocide. That's not a war crime. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's Hamas's war crime. It's not Israel's.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, Mamdani, you moron. It's not Israel's fault that they're
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  Speaker 1: putting these people up in churches and hospitals and schools,
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  Speaker 1: using them as human shields. Israel's just defending themselves. Putin
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  Speaker 1: is on the offense. He's murdering innocent people, okay? Ukraine
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  Speaker 1: didn't go into Russia on a Saturday morning and destroy 1,300
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  Speaker 1: innocent people. I mean, this is what Russia's doing. But
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to Iran, who said in
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  Speaker 1: this tweet, On our soil, we should be worried. And
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  Speaker 1: you also said in Iran, the regime has all the
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  Speaker 1: components for an intercontinental ballistic missile. So Trump keeps saying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing this. It's not about the straight. It's not
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  Speaker 1: about the oil. None of this is about making sure
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  Speaker 1: Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon. And I believe him.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're telling me they already got the components
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  Speaker 1: for an intercontinental ballistic missile, that does an awful lot
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  Speaker 1: of damage as well, does it not?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it certainly does. You know, when Trump spoke to
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  Speaker 2: the American people in April, he said that they, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he talked about an ICBM and said, well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's close. Well, I think Trump underplayed that. Because remember,
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  Speaker 2: after this, right after that, the CNN commentary, Caitlin Collins
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  Speaker 2: said that the U.S. intelligence community does not agree with
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  Speaker 2: President Trump about an ICBM. And she was right. The U.S.
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  Speaker 2: intel community doesn't. But the U.S. intel community is wrong
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  Speaker 2: about this, and Trump is right. And the reason is
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  Speaker 2: we know that since 1983 or so, the North Koreans
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  Speaker 2: have been helping the Iranians build missiles. And one of
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  Speaker 2: them that they've transferred is the Hwasong-15, which has a
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  Speaker 2: range of 8,100 miles, which can hit any part of
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  Speaker 2: the U.S., We know that North Koreans transferred the 80-ton
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  Speaker 2: first stage to Iran sometime around 2013. We know this
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  Speaker 2: because in 2016, the U.S. Treasury sanctioned North Korea for
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  Speaker 2: proliferating to Iran that 80-ton booster, which is the first
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  Speaker 2: stage of an ICBM. The Iranians have been able to
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  Speaker 2: surprise us with the range of their missiles during the
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  Speaker 2: course of the war. So for instance, when they fired
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  Speaker 2: two missiles at Diego Garcia in March, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people were taken by surprise. They shouldn't have been, because
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  Speaker 2: we have known that the North Koreans have transferred all
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  Speaker 2: the components for an ICBM to the Iranians. The only
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  Speaker 2: thing that we don't know, Sid, is whether they've actually,
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  Speaker 2: the Iranians have been able actually to put them all together.
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  Speaker 2: But it's almost certain that they've been able to figure
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  Speaker 2: that out, especially because they've had North Korean missile experts
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  Speaker 2: on site in Iran for more than a decade.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to look ahead too far because we've
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  Speaker 1: got the midterms in two weeks, and that's scary enough
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  Speaker 1: if we lose, but let me look ahead. Okay, let
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  Speaker 1: me go to two years. Trump is done, okay? So
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  Speaker 1: you got, I don't know, hopefully it'll be Marco Rubio.
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  Speaker 1: He can win. I love Marco, but maybe J.D. Vance,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Ted Cruz, maybe Josh Hawley. I don't know. If
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  Speaker 1: the Republicans lose all this work that's been done the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of years by Trump, which you and I
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  Speaker 1: both agree because they're both very smart, was the right
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  Speaker 1: thing to do, while all the anti-Semites say it's all
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  Speaker 1: about Israel, which is stupid, really stupid and hateful, dumb.
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  Speaker 1: What happens if the Democrats take over the White House
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  Speaker 1: in two years and all this unravels? How much danger
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  Speaker 1: are we in in the United States?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to see two years ahead, but
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't look good, especially because the Democrats... You know,
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  Speaker 2: they are not willing to fight Iran. And they have
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  Speaker 2: been soft on China when they've been in power. We
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  Speaker 2: saw that during the Biden era. Right now, we need
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  Speaker 2: a bipartisan foreign policy because we've got a common enemy, China.
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  Speaker 2: And we have seen, you know, this Fox News reporting
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  Speaker 2: that Neville Roy Singham, who works with the Communist Party's
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  Speaker 2: United Front Work Department, has been behind the French and
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  Speaker 2: the protests that have been spreading to other countries. And
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  Speaker 2: we need somebody in the United States to stand up
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  Speaker 2: and say, no, we're going to fight this. Because this is,
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  Speaker 2: they're coming for us on our own soil.
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  Speaker 1: They are. It's funny, I'm going to wrap this up here, Gordon,
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  Speaker 1: but I was about to ask you, don't you think
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  Speaker 1: that the North Koreans, the Chinese, the Iranians, the Russians,
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  Speaker 1: the Arabs, a lot of them, They're all celebrating what's
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  Speaker 1: going on in Paris, right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the Chinese certainly are, because they are helping to
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  Speaker 2: spread it. I don't know about the North Koreans. I
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  Speaker 2: think that they've got their hands full anyway. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure the Russians and the Iranians and the North
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  Speaker 2: Koreans are clapping, at least from the sidelines. But the
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  Speaker 2: Chinese are very involved in the spread of these protests,
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  Speaker 2: as we have seen from the reporting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, China, don't get confused here. Iran is posing a
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  Speaker 1: much greater threat than maybe Trump is leading us to
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  Speaker 1: believe that China is still far and away the most
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  Speaker 1: dangerous threat in the world, yes?
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  Speaker 2: Iran is dangerous because of China, because China has provided
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  Speaker 2: across-the-board support, everything except for combat personnel. And in Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: the Chinese have been supplying everything, including combat personnel, through mercenaries.
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  Speaker 2: And there are officers of the People's Liberation Army near
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  Speaker 2: the front in Ukraine. Probably observers. Maybe they're advisors. That
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But the Chinese are there at the front.
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  Speaker 1: Terrifying, man. You're so good, though, Gordon. I got to
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  Speaker 1: tell you, I love having you on. Gordon G. Chang
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  Speaker 1: whatever you call it. Gordon G. Chang, as always, a
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  Speaker 1: wealth of important information. Excellent job. Thank you so much,
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  Speaker 1: my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Sid.
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  Speaker 1: God bless you. You stay safe, okay? Gordon Chang right
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