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Bonus: Athletics LLC S2 E34 'Make it make Sense' December 3, 2021 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  It's bonus time, we're honored Athletics, LLC would allow us to
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  present to you the audio version of their weekly Friday Night,
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  YouTube series. Let's get to and see what the
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  crew has in store this week. It's me.
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  I'm not going to divulge anything but we were going to go
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  to Texas A&M and then now we've been rerouted to Arkansas.
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  So that's an you just evolved everything.
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  No, I didn't say everything but we changed our schedule.
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  So but very interesting. Welcome to the power 5.
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  True, Welcome to the power 5 because I can happen.
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  But anyhow, welcome to Athletics LLC.
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  It's going to be a fun night. It's in the air.
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  I feel it, I feel it. So let's start off by saying
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  hello to these lovely tiles. That have joined me tonight.
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  I'm going to need explanation on this one.
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  Lamar free-writing krauser huffin.
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  How are you tonight, sir? Oh, we got to let it be broke
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  later, trust me. Okay.
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  My neck. My name will make a ton of
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  sense. Okay?
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  If I could have got a shirt made soon enough,
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  how are you this evening, sir? I'm here for the shenanigans.
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  Let's go. What are those just getting
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  Governor. How are you today?
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  Sir tonight, sir. Oh man, today is Wednesday, but
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  it feels like Friday just under water.
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  I'm feeling what these kids are feeling right now.
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  I'm trying to. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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  Doggy paddling the waiting room, ready for some some educated and
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  on the uneducated, banter ready for a fight last, but not
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  Definitely, never Leaf. So lucious, how are you this
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  evening, sir. I am rolling.
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  I am rolling. Love it.
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  Well, welcome all again to a feather, another fun night of,
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  as a governor, put it, fun banter.
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  So let's just kick the show off as we always do as the Facebook
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  fam. Knows it's chaos time.
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  Ever. So I was right, eloquent Lee
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  coined by Clyde there. I'm just going to leave that
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  wide open for you. To step through Clyde.
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  Go for it. Well, you know, I think we might
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  need to defer. To, I can't take full credit for
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  here to mr. Lamar chaos.
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  Their dominance as we will call him right now, you know.
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  Wow. Things are things are lining up
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  exactly how me and him perceived it if you have not seen it.
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  UGA sitting at number one, I do have a question for later.
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  Who is UGA beat this year? I'm everybody everybody on
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  schedule. If you guys love to say, are by
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  on a schedule for so Michigan. As predicted, jumped in all the
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  way. Up to number two, Alabama
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  sitting at number 3, Cincinnati in the death chair waiting
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  execution at number for Oklahoma State sitting at five and a
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  pretty and a coach list Notre Dame Cicely.
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  Number six and just for the record in case you missed it
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  there was a report out today from somebody on the committee
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  that said coaching and player availability is a partner, their
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  consideration. So just understand folks, Notre
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  Dame is DOA and this is all about Oklahoma State.
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  And so, you know, as we go into Championship weekend, somebody
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  on this panel is Going to have a pie in the face moment next
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  week. It may be two of us.
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  It may not be, we'll find out, but it looks pretty good.
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  From what we all. Not all said was going to
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  happen. All I've ever said, it's just
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  that he's going to be in the top four.
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  This is not a still the top four, so until since they come
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  to our top four, I don't know what the heck you're talking
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  about young fella, but this is it.
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  I've said this all along, it's just that he's going to be in
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  top for you're still on top for, so I'm not.
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  Wrong yet, you're not wrong yet. But I do have a genuine question
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  to ask you sir. Yeah.
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  I believe you see it. I believe you'll see the
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  shenanigans on the rise. So, whatever happens this
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  weekend. There's a lot of things that
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  could happen if Cincinnati wins their game and ends up out of
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  the top for you, say what? I will be extremely disappointed
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  and but I will take my L like a man because that's what I do.
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  But Here's my thing, right? I have especially with the last
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  five weeks or so tried to delve into this as much as I can.
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  And the more I delve into it, he's got a bunch of people
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  sitting in a room spouting their opinions and that's all it is to
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  it. So in their minds, they're
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  trying to get what they perceive to be the best four teams in the
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  country, right? The problem I have with that is
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  like who made these 12 people judge jury and executioner like
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  who decided to do These 12 people and maybe I'm mistaking.
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  The number of people in the room who made these people, like the,
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  the authorities to decide who the best four teams are.
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  So the process is extremely flawed and I hate to say this
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  because I know clients come to jump all over this.
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  We need more teams. We need more teeth like next
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  week, we need more time and so as I get the more I look into
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  this, it is very okay. I'm just going to paint a
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  scenario for you, right? So the only way Alabama gets in
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  the playoff is if they beat Georgia or ripping out the old
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  guy told you this you shake it all you want since they're still
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  on top or if they beat Georgia or if they tied you oranje,
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  they'll get it. If they lose to Georgia, they
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  got no shot but in a crazy chaotic world.
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  These 12 people could sit in there and go is a one is a no
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  losses. Natty team really better than a
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  to loss. Alabama.
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  Take me now, there's where lies the problem so I don't bind to
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  the consumers conspiracy theories that you guys do but I
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  have turned the corner and I'm running rapidly across that
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  street that the process is greatly flawed.
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  Because this is totally human-based and it's just not,
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  it's not good. I would like to on behalf of all
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  chaos lovers and conspiracy theorist on the planet.
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  Welcome you to our street, you're not quite on the
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  bandwagon yet never going on that bandwagon, but when
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  Cincinnati wins and Oklahoma State wins and Oklahoma State
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  past the Cincinnati, and Cincinnati's undefeated, and
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  outside top four, first of all, I'm going to say for the record
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  I have been saying since the beginning, I am rooting to be
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  wrong. Cincinnati deserves.
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  And you're going to hand or your.
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  I hope I am. I missing Cincinnati deserves
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  the right to go play. Whoever number one is they're
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  probably going to get molly-whopped but they deserve
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  that, right? Because if you look at what
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  look, I told you about three weeks ago, there was five teams
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  lined up the past them. Here's the great thing that's
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  happened for Cincinnati, Michigan State lost Wake Forest
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  lost, Oklahoma lost, right? So three of the five suitors
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  have gone bye-bye Notre, Dame's coach left like the Mayflower in
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  the middle of the night and so four of the five are gone.
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  I mean, that's just what it is. Like, there's no way they're
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  going to put. A Notre Dame team that lost to
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  Cincinnati without their head. Coach ahead of Cincinnati that's
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  not going to happen so Clyde is correct Notre, Dame is DOA
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  Oklahoma State. However, Oklahoma state is
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  literally A pit bull trying to get out of a cage into a yard,
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  full of female dogs, that are in heat, like all they have to do
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  is winning. Look, no sure that you are.
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  That is the dumbest thing you ever come out of that mouth to
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  you. You're a cow guy, you gotta do
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  better, you know, better than that.
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  The dumbest thing I've ever said.
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  This is why this is what let me tell you something.
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  This is what needs to happen in Cincinnati's world, for sure.
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  They need to all go get Alabama, jerseys and pray to God.
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  Pray to God. That they're on the losing team.
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  They cannot have Alabama, beat Georgia, because then there, for
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  sure, to include. Wow, that why were they go by
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  Jersey? Were losing team.
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  See. There you go.
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  That's two. That's why
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  they need Cincinnati. First of all, is the governor of
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  Georgia to win. Please, get off the floor.
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  Thanks for having me on the floor.
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  That would be the Mars. Thank you for having me.
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  I am just I'm I am just so happy.
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  I am happy that we are where we are.
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  Because yeah, because you have conversations with in
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  conversations. It is.
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  I mean we can sit here and bloviate all night about what's
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  about to happen in the next couple of days.
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  But how many of us really know? I mean, How long will it take in
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  that Georgia, Alabama game. Alright for Kirby Smart.
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  To figure out. Okay, this is Nick Saban.
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  This is my, this is my guy, right?
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  I'm just the amount of chaos That Couldn't could ensue on
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  Saturday. I mean, I'm at a loss, I mean,
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  let's not, let's not, let's not, I mean and I'm going to say the
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  sir Lucius beating Houston is not a gimme.
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  All right, I totally agree with that.
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  That is not a gimme that. Because the, I'm with you, for
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  the chaos ran, see that this is the bit.
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  I am on the chaos. Street I am holding the other
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  side of the chaos flag with Clyde on this one there.
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  Okay, yeah. For the dadgum chaos.
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  This weekend. Well, my have is the chaos by
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  happened to my boys. I mean II.
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  Finds itself in everybody that's not Cincinnati.
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  Okay? Or unless you're from the state
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  of Ohio is rooting for a big Power, 5 school to get in.
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  There's still that stigma that's out there and I mean for me
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  personally, I want to see this happen.
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  I want to see Cincinnati spoiler party.
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  I just feel like Oklahoma state. If they can pull that off, I am
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  also on the on that bandwagon that they're going to jump over
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  Cincinnati. And and that is, it is horrible.
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  And it's a travesty. It should never happen.
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  I totally agree with you. On all of that, is the
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  difference. This is where, and maybe my
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  heartstrings are a little bit involved.
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  Here, I'll deal. But I really believe in my heart
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  that if they thought that. They were going to pull the
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  shenanigan a deported already. Yeah.
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  Because my thoughts, Is Cincinnati.
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  Like Bees Houston by a point. I don't call mistake curb Stomps
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  Baylor, Baylor and I got it. I got it.
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  I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you.
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  I want to jump in there really quick I just because I just want
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  to say this. This isn't even my idea, like,
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  this is literally me just paying attention to the way the
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  narrative gets built every year, they started.
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  That's why I said it four weeks ago.
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  They had looked, they had all the planes lined up on the
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  runway. If this one fails we got Plan B.
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  It's so look. Oklahoma State wasn't a promise.
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  You can't promise you that because it's okay.
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  So what's your point? My student is that the runway
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  was lined up for who was going to go past, you know, and look
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  that is the really cute and dropped all of two spots,
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  right? Because we had to make make sure
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  they were still viable for exactly what I'm talking about.
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  Okay, it's if this, this is a nuanced conversation, but it's
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  all there in print for you to see.
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  You just have to look at the more.
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  I look at it. I just don't, I just don't, I
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  just don't see the craziness that you guys do.
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  I don't even I'm a I don't even think for some of these people.
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  It's a predetermined conspiracy. It's almost subconscious.
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  Mmm. The whole if that's okay.
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  Write the whole thing about what this whole thing is.
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  Yeah. Is a problem money.
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  Yeah. And they want the most lucrative
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  situation possible. Yep.
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  That's what they want. Now, all I'm telling you, is
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  this We've seen it before the fake playoffs is goes all the
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  way back to the creation of the original bcx mmkay every year.
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  Somehow some way the narrative starts in one place and it ends
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  in the exact same place, it always ends with the word best
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  being thrown around because the word best is undefinable.
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  Deserving is clear. You can get a play off of
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  deservings. You could do that.
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  A million different ways and you can identify like the beauty of
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  our sport. Everybody complains about track
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  and field, but you know who's going to Nationals number 16?
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  Number 48? Yeah, that's who's going.
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  You ain't no ambiguity ambiguity about it.
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  That's, that's the standard. This is all subconscious.
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  It's all subjective. It's all fugazi tomorrow.
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  You know, Lamar is word. So all I'm saying to you, sir,
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  lucious is this When I say every year that I root for chaos, what
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  that actually means for those, for the fans of mine that I've
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  been rocking with Team Kaos forever, I root for the most
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  ridiculous outcome possible. Yes, spin you to expose.
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  How Daisy, this whole thing is. So, what I'm rooting for right
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  now is utter chicanery. I want see, Alabama doesn't
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  really. Matter because I'm telling you,
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  if they win the game there in there, in there in there.
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  I root for little guy, I want to see Cincinnati land where they
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  should be and for isn't where they should be, they're better
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  than four. Yes.
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  Okay, it's okay. It's okay based on what?
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  Oh, cause you keep sucking. You keep saying, who has
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  so-and-so beat? Who was Cincinnati Beat besides
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  Notre Dame. I'm glad you asked that question
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  because the, the LI the annual life Why of how we land here all
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  the time. And remember, let's forget the
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  how we land here all the time. What's always, the narrative is
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  the SEC, going to get one team in or two every single year but
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  that's your narrative. No, no, sir.
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  The question is and remains yet who has Cincinnati Beat besides
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  know, your name. Hey, hey, just of good of a
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  schedule as Georgia has And I'll run you through it.
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  George one Clemson. I got place.
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  I wanted to go to those things. Please.
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  Just talk to you that way me UAB, South Carolina,
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  Vanderbilt's Arkansas. They beat Auburn.
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  I consider arming to be a decent team cool that we could win
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  Tucky. Yeah Florida.
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  Missouri and Tennessee, Charleston Southern and Georgia
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  Tech. Okay now my question to you Who
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  is this? Okay, well okay, I heard you.
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  Now if you do the same thing with Cincinnati, it's worse.
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  But is it was about who in your opinion is the best team in the
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  country. Because always question, I'm
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  excited about. But now all of a sudden it's
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  going to be different. This would become a narrative.
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  No no I do not believe.
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  Steam the country and between this weekend and the playoffs.
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  I think that will be exposed. I don't believe they're the best
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  team in the country. I think the best team in the
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  country is either is either Alabama or Michigan.
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  That's what I'm interesting. Hmm, that's very interesting
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  now. Yeah, they're the best team in
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  there if if not any the same Michigan team.
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  They got curb stomp, a few weeks go by Michigan State.
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  That's a machine Michigan. State's a hell of a lot better
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  team than anyone. George has beaten.
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  Can't even enough. Okay, well, you know what, I
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  tell you like this, I'm going to say this is what's going to
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  happen this weekend and then I'll come back on here and
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  rewind the tape and tell you I was wrong.
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  It's a Georgia on My Mind. I got George.
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  I got Georgia. I got my God, Kirby slaying the
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  dragon, it's time. It's time.
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  It's all there on. The y'all are on the, if not.
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  Now when trained with George? No, that's what Michigan said
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  last week, right? That's what I, that's what he
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  said about. Michigan Big Ten Championship,
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  Michigan, or Iowa, or Iowa, Michigan.
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  Going away, Iowa. But Iowa, Iowa can beat them and
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  it would be, it would be very Michigan of them.
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  Yes, to have a letdown after Ohio State.
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  So the unfortunate part about that part is that you are, you
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  are 100% correct. It would be very Michigan.
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  Like to lose the Iowa. The Big Ten would cry because
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  then they would be for sure, not to get a team in.
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  But let me just say this for the record, I can undercut we pick,
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  I can't pick. I would have been anything.
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  If y'all remember correctly, I said and was right, they were
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  the most overrated, number three, team in the history of
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  rankings. I depend not vote for them to
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  beat anybody in themselves. They got sent to sell Big 12,
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  Baylor vs. Oklahoma State, I got my vote on
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  no defense whatsoever. Bet the over at a time going I'm
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  going just total, Bedlam total chaos.
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  I'm going to bed. I'm on a roll.
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  I'm miles. Just keep Rollin.
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  Well, I can tell you this. That's right now.
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  That's what it is right now. We've been waiting for this game
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  for 365 days. Yes.
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  Folks, you still have more games to play?
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  Yeah. But they're not talking about
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  moving forward. Yeah, so I'm going with total
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  and utter chaos. Michigan takes to L and so does
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  Oklahoma State. Wow, which will allow Cincinnati
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  in baby. Wait, wait, do you have some
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  things happen? And then Cincinnati loses the
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  Houston and Notre Dame is in the for without Governor of Oklahoma
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  State beating Baylor. But it's going to come down to
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  the last play. I'm saying, it's Whoever has the
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  ball last. That's what I'm.
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  That's what I'm thinking. I'm all I want to make myself.
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  I have Oklahoma if not now, not. Now, when for Mike.
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  Gundy and Oklahoma State Cowboys like Frank, but they've been
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  they've had much better than this one.
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  Yes. Can you listen?
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  Be in the playoff. I'm just thankful my gosh.
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  Okay, so I want to go on the record is set if Cincinnati and
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  Oklahoma State both win, and if you know conversate in, I'm not
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  watching another game of football this year.
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  Okay, that's fair. Not if we talk about it.
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  Listen, I'm picking Cincinnati, I'm going for Cincinnati to.
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  I'm just hoping like just uses dangerous, man.
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  Yes it is. Houston is underrated.
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  Yes, they are. They're much better than their
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  ranking, much better. Underrated.
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  And I don't think since see if, if I believe the Cincinnati
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  believe that they were actually safe.
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  I Picked him lose. Hmm.
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  They can't believe that they're safe so I believe they're going
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  to handle their business and Luke sticker won't let them.
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  Don't let them believe that they're saying, right.
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  I'm just afraid that Cincinnati and Oklahoma State are both
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  going to lose. And we're going to end up with a
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  for of Georgia, Michigan, Alabama and Notre Dame without a
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  coach. It's very possible because it's
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  very possible because it because it could look, here's the deal.
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  If Oklahoma state is Cincinnati lose, Alabama, doesn't have to
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  win? No, no.
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  Because there for sure, better than everybody below him.
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  Yes, even with two losses, they're better because nobody's
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  going to pick Ohio State over them.
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  Mmm. It's how about, how about, how
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  about dropping the seven? That was.
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  You have to be punished for lucious.
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  Tell me about that. Why was he see?
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  I can't tell you about it. We need to talk to your guys
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  because when everybody else gets dropped by get they got it
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  probably. Well, I wanted to Ohio state is
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  so They should give no, I could drop that for.
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  Five matchup with Ohio State Michigan.
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  This, I have a huge problem with Ohio State dropping as far as
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  they did. But you have to understand why I
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  understand why the dry looks like they drag it up far.
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  Because at that point, they are out of the championship game for
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  the Big Ten and can no longer no one that got them to influence,
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  the shenanigans that need to happen.
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  Immediately understand why they drop that far, I have no issue
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  with that. So I I know why we haven't
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  blamed because we all know that Ohio State's have better
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  football team than Notre Dame. Yes.
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  Oh my God. I know that so you should have a
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  problem with wearing them Then for Georgia to win at Michigan,
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  the win in Cincinnati, will then move the three in Cincinnati
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  will play Michigan and beat them and beat them all for that
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  chaos. Baby or someone and gets beat by
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  40 Cincinnati which I like for them.
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  In the national championship game.
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  We have Cincinnati like like b-roll to put to fill in for the
• 31:56
  commercials. Oh, don't trip.
• 31:59
  The mullet from Stillwater is going to get in there, don't you
• 32:03
  worry. All right.
• 32:05
  What's next to what we gotta wait?
• 32:07
  I'm sorry. There's a basketball game.
• 32:10
  There's a basketball game. The ACC Championship it's pit
• 32:14
  versus Wake Forest. Or is that not bad?
• 32:22
  I mean, listen Not only was that that was actually high-quality
• 32:27
  Petty. That was, I was also incredibly
• 32:30
  funny because let me tell you something, the ACC is now in
• 32:34
  witness protection. Oh my gosh, literally, nobody
• 32:38
  cares. Nobody cares.
• 32:40
  Let like they, they have told the ACC just tell us who won.
• 32:44
  We'll stick that winter in the come on in bowl and we'll be
• 32:47
  done because they don't care. So this, this is where this is
• 32:50
  where I gotta. I mean, someone someone actually
• 32:52
  posted this about the incoming members of Of the Big 12 that's
• 33:00
  been what. Now, you have five schools.
• 33:04
  Five teams that have been to the Mountaintop in the Big 12, right
• 33:12
  group of five schools, nonetheless, but UCF has done
• 33:16
  it. Cincinnati is doing it right
• 33:21
  now. Houston are you kidding me?
• 33:24
  So what what is coming TCU, right?
• 33:29
  TCU has been there. So, let's not, let's not
• 33:33
  discount this big 12, the new Big 12, the ACC little 12,
• 33:40
  Clemson, Clemson and Florida State have some work.
• 33:44
  When I tell you, they've got some work to do.
• 33:47
  Because there there's a much better place right now.
• 33:57
  Can I just say before we exit the college football topic?
• 34:01
  Whoever wins the ACC game. Hmm is tied to I believe the
• 34:07
  Orange Bowl. Yes, I definition so get ready,
• 34:11
  folks. It's the ACC champ versus
• 34:15
  Cincinnati in the Orange Bowl. Mostly I didn't tell you.
• 34:19
  That's how disrespectful they're going to be to Cincinnati.
• 34:23
  They're going to lock them out, and send them to the orange ones
• 34:25
  bull bang. Oh, Can you tell me who your pic
• 34:32
  was for the Big Ten? I missed it.
• 34:36
  I have. I definitely have chemistry of
• 34:39
  Michigan, for sure. Yes, I missed it.
• 34:41
  Sorry, I've got this down. This will be tweetable.
• 34:45
  You have all of our paper money. Nobody will watch The Shadow.
• 35:05
  The shadow of Clemson is those days, they default ACC winner.
• 35:11
  What if next to what we got going on?
• 35:13
  Oh, well, as if that wasn't turmoil enough with, let's throw
• 35:17
  some more gas in this fire. The world Athletics has decided
• 35:22
  on who they're athlete in the years are for the males and the
• 35:25
  females, if you haven't seen this posted, if you hasn't seen
• 35:29
  it. Denounced.
• 35:30
  The awards have been given to a lame Thompson her off as well as
• 35:34
  Carson Carson will home. Wow, we're home now, I
• 35:41
  understand the name. So my apologies, mr.
• 35:44
  Lamar, I'd now I it was a Norton context for me.
• 35:47
  So I find it interesting entertaining enough that as I
• 35:54
  was reading that topic all of your facial expressions
• 35:58
  Expressions changed. So let's let's let's give light
• 36:04
  to those reactions. And I'll go first because I'm
• 36:08
  because I'm going to be very brief, I just want to say first
• 36:13
  of all. Congratulations to Ariana night.
• 36:15
  And thing, though, you're being the rising star.
• 36:19
  It's the future of the sport. So rightfully sports team.
• 36:23
  Yeah, so they got that right. That's all they got.
• 36:26
  Right? But like, so, like with me is
• 36:29
  clearly, this is there's opinions.
• 36:32
  There's bias. Not sure how you ever discount,
• 36:37
  what Ryan krauser did totally disrespectful to that man, in my
• 36:40
  opinion, we know there's an argument for you laying here.
• 36:44
  I'm not sure that I would have rocked with that argument but
• 36:47
  the end of the day, same thing we just talked about what The
• 36:49
  college football playoff, you get a group of people in the
• 36:51
  room are considered the exports, they make the decision.
• 36:54
  It's about as laughable as what the Bowerman is in my opinion.
• 36:58
  So, and I'm done. That's it.
• 37:00
  The alphabet crew, I like, I like it.
• 37:04
  Look, I've fired those shots directly.
• 37:06
  Trust me. I am Hey, do you want me to go
• 37:15
  next please? I might feel like that was a,
• 37:19
  that was a nap jumping to the screen.
• 37:20
  So please? Yeah, turn around and get.
• 37:27
  Okay. So as long as you keep it,
• 37:34
  Elaine winning is wrong, but defensible?
• 37:42
  Wrong in my opinion. But it's just that an opinion,
• 37:47
  but the, but the argument is defensible, no question about
• 37:52
  it, right? If we asked 100 people, We're
• 37:57
  probably 60/40 you know like okay so I'm not going to delve
• 38:02
  anytime into that, congratulations to Elaine, hmm I
• 38:07
  wasn't widget I missed that episode.
• 38:10
  So if not Elaine, who should have won Well, we had some
• 38:17
  debate. Yes, I think Hassan was the will
• 38:23
  say panel favorite as a group? I actually I actually think that
• 38:30
  sir Lucius pick a lane, but didn't think she was gonna win,
• 38:34
  like, meaning he wanted her to win.
• 38:35
  Would think she was gonna win ya.
• 38:38
  And I think I was kind of in a similar boat, I wanted Sid to
• 38:44
  win. Right.
• 38:46
  But I figured his arm was going to win.
• 38:50
  That kind of a deal. That's where we're at with that,
• 38:53
  right? Those arguments are defensible.
• 38:58
  What is indefensible now look, we'll start with this.
• 39:01
  There are people out, people are going to watch this episode say.
• 39:03
  Well muffins is the field of that guy and, you know, he's
• 39:07
  biased and yet. Okay, let's say that, that's
• 39:11
  true. Let's take all the Penguins out
• 39:13
  of it. And let's just look at facts.
• 39:16
  The very, very best season. You can possibly have in.
• 39:21
  Any discipline is one win every competition.
• 39:25
  You're in. Check.
• 39:28
  Two. Do something unprecedented.
• 39:33
  Check three if your event is contested indoors and out, break
• 39:40
  the indoor world record. And the Outdoor World Record.
• 39:44
  Check. Check.
• 39:47
  There's nothing else on the list.
• 39:50
  So by not awarding. The award for this season as the
• 39:59
  athlete of the year, to Ryan krauser, what you are simply
• 40:04
  saying is he love enters. Need not apply because you
• 40:09
  cannot win the award. Because the man literally had a
• 40:17
  perfect season, he did not lose, he won the diamond League.
• 40:21
  He won every Diamond League competition.
• 40:23
  He was in he wrote were murdered in doors for the world record
• 40:28
  and the Olympic record Outdoors. And when the Olympic gold medal,
• 40:34
  did he not sell enough popcorn? Like it's indefensible.
• 40:44
  Carson War, home had the performance of the Year, decade.
• 40:49
  Maybe of the sport. Sure.
• 40:52
  Maybe maybe, if you're in that group that cars or homes, 45:9
• 40:57
  is the greatest things ever happened in track awesome.
• 41:01
  The reward is for the athlete of the year for the season.
• 41:09
  And if you win every competition, you're in and
• 41:11
  you're the best at the discipline ever indoors and out.
• 41:16
  If you don't win they're telling you you can't win.
• 41:20
  The award is unwinnable. At this point, if you're a field
• 41:23
  of enter and I just think that's ridiculous.
• 41:27
  I just think like it's indefensible and if I was Ryan
• 41:30
  krauser, I know he's not, I will be inconsolable because at the
• 41:34
  end of the day how can you win everything and yet still loose?
• 41:42
  Governor. If you, if you don't mind, I'd
• 41:45
  like you to be the ending voice of reason.
• 41:48
  For whichever side you fall on because Lamar gave such a
• 41:54
  beautiful argument there, I actually have to rebut him on
• 41:59
  principle. He said the war home over
• 42:04
  krauser is indefensible. Well, allow me to defend it.
• 42:11
  All of your finger checks that you threw out. 100% are true.
• 42:18
  And 100% apply to Karsten War home as well.
• 42:23
  Note with one exception, The indoor issue because his event
• 42:30
  doesn't exist, indoors all the rest of the checks. or home and
• 42:37
  krauser are identical, so maybe the decision-makers looked at
• 42:44
  that and said, well, You can't punish War home for something.
• 42:51
  He doesn't have an opportunity to accomplish.
• 42:54
  So how do we split this hair? We can split this hair by peak
• 42:59
  of performance and let me be clear if not for Karsten were
• 43:05
  home. I might argue that Ryan
• 43:07
  Krauser's top performances are the best we've ever seen in the
• 43:11
  sport, but Carson more home exists.
• 43:16
  And that performance was the greatest spectacle we have ever
• 43:20
  seen. And as I said earlier, when we
• 43:25
  were discussing the possibilities of who could win
• 43:27
  this award for me, the separator between the two is very simple.
• 43:33
  Who did you beat? Carsten War home had a higher
• 43:38
  degree of difficulty because his competition was also unlike
• 43:44
  anything we've ever seen in the sport.
• 43:47
  An apology right there. Yeah.
• 43:50
  You asked, who did you beat? Ryan krauser be to drug, busted
• 43:56
  shot Putters, one indoors and one Outdoors.
• 43:59
  Cool. That's who he mean?
• 44:01
  I get it. I'm not here to take anything
• 44:03
  away from Ryan cross, right? Krauser is phenomenal.
• 44:07
  Ryan, you are a QR right to say and feel.
• 44:12
  This is a shot at field event athletes.
• 44:15
  You may not even apply. I feel that I'm not even mad at
• 44:19
  that. It's a great arguing.
• 44:22
  It's to me. It almost feels like one of
• 44:27
  these Oscar years, where your favorite actor puts on a
• 44:32
  beautiful performance may be an all-time performance.
• 44:35
  But damn you ran up against somebody else that was just as
• 44:39
  good and had just the same moment.
• 44:43
  Ryan krauser did everything, perfect.
• 44:46
  And so did Karsten War home or home, did it against better
• 44:49
  competition? And I think that's why he won on
• 44:54
  the women. I agree with child.
• 44:56
  I personally thought for the same principles that her son
• 45:00
  should have been it. Yeah.
• 45:01
  Because What she did, has never been seen before those three
• 45:07
  events. Specifically at the Olympics.
• 45:10
  I mean, you know, props to Elaine, you know, you look at
• 45:14
  the paper, you look at the career, Elaine's the boat, like
• 45:16
  can't even deny it at this point, but with a sign did was
• 45:20
  more impressive and harder for me.
• 45:23
  So I would have rolled with sign.
• 45:25
  They got the newcomers of the year, right?
• 45:27
  I don't even see how that was a debate if it ever was for
• 45:30
  anybody. So I turn it over to the
• 45:32
  governor. I'm not mad at the war home
• 45:34
  issue. I, I can defend it.
• 45:37
  So I went through a couple of emotions.
• 45:44
  Once I saw the result and what is obvious, okay?
• 45:50
  In the thing, that has to be considered, in all of this, is
• 45:54
  that the fans had to say, the fans had a vote.
• 46:00
  Okay. What war home did is akin to
• 46:06
  what bolt did in Berlin, okay? And it will never be forgotten.
• 46:12
  I don't know if it will ever be recreated.
• 46:17
  I'm sure mr. Benjamin has something up his
• 46:20
  sleeve. I cannot wait to see what
• 46:23
  happens. Injuries.
• 46:24
  Notwithstanding, So, I came to an understanding that, okay?
• 46:34
  for the moment, for the event, for the magnitude of everything
• 46:39
  that we witnessed in, in Tokyo, I mean, we will remember where
• 46:47
  we were, but, For me and I'm sure for Lamar.
• 46:54
  Okay, we both even even you Clyde we come from a situation a
• 47:01
  period of time where We're used to people being rewarded for the
• 47:07
  entirety of your season. When you think about when, when
• 47:14
  when mr. Krauser started in Arkansas, and
• 47:19
  unleash that bomb in Arkansas and what he has done throughout
• 47:23
  the entire year, there is no, I mean you we're going to be
• 47:29
  sitting back and trying to figure out how this man stayed
• 47:34
  there over and over and over this this you know, this reminds
• 47:39
  me of this reminds me of my Powell.
• 47:42
  How mad my power would be when Carl would run like for time
• 47:47
  Jump, like four times. And then the year number one,
• 47:50
  ranked in the world and he'd be like I'm jumping 30 times, I'm
• 47:56
  out there killing myself. And here comes Carl.
• 48:01
  I'll just jump when I'm ready but every time I jump I'm on the
• 48:05
  jumping 60-plus. Right?
• 48:08
  What war home did? It will never be forgotten and
• 48:13
  the fans I think rewarded him for that but you cannot
• 48:16
  discount. What mr.
• 48:18
  Krause did, I mean kudos to that man for excellence for the
• 48:23
  entire year, not just part of the year, not just you know let
• 48:28
  me get Get a warm-up meat. Let me go to the Olympics.
• 48:31
  Drop a bomb, let me call it a day.
• 48:34
  No, I'm talking from indoors. All the way out.
• 48:38
  I mean, insane. Insane.
• 48:41
  And and see my only question would be about the world deal
• 48:46
  is, you know, we talked about his great competition.
• 48:49
  That was a great competition on that day because he didn't like
• 48:52
  run those guys all year long. He didn't know that he had a lot
• 48:56
  of setup races where he was set up in a lane and you're set up
• 49:00
  and do things. Okay?
• 49:01
  So from that vein, he had that one race which goes back to
• 49:07
  free, Ryan krauser. Go back to This point of right
• 49:13
  was performance. So what that performance was
• 49:18
  phenomenal? Hmm.
• 49:20
  And nobody can ever take that away like you but you're right
• 49:24
  Governor. We will always remember where we
• 49:25
  were when that happened. I don't know how we discount,
• 49:28
  what Ryan krauser started doing in this February only January,
• 49:32
  whenever it was and continued throughout the year, against all
• 49:35
  comers, and some so, so let me let me Add a cherry to Ryan
• 49:42
  Krauser's, the difficulty of Ryan krauser season, we've beat
• 49:46
  to death the diamond League format, right?
• 49:50
  So, Ryan krauser was winning through five rounds in every
• 49:54
  single one of those meats, Still had to win the last round and
• 49:58
  not foul in every single one of those to win all of those
• 50:02
  competitions, right? You don't do that racist.
• 50:07
  That's true. Just go just go in, but very
• 50:09
  good to win twice. It's basically right across the
• 50:11
  head to win, twice on every one of those.
• 50:14
  And I just think there's some validity to the fact that Ryan's
• 50:18
  stuck over in the corner someplace.
• 50:21
  Sure, doing these things and the crowd doesn't seem to that, goes
• 50:23
  back to the governor's point about the the fan, you know,
• 50:26
  they don't see, you know, and how many, how many fans are
• 50:30
  really looking at it. Understanding the shoplet.
• 50:34
  Yeah. And now let me, let me say to
• 50:36
  that point and this is a direct shot at the alphabet crew.
• 50:41
  I don't know how much influence the fan vote has.
• 50:45
  But I don't care if we're talking about world Athletics,
• 50:48
  athlete of the Year, alphabet Cruz Bowerman award, NBA
• 50:54
  All-Star games, whatever the fans should have no power in any
• 51:00
  of this. If you want to do a Twitter
• 51:02
  poll, hey kit, that's cute. Give him a Twitter award but I'm
• 51:08
  sorry. We all know that.
• 51:10
  There's an amazing job with the alphabet.
• 51:18
  Yes. Speed of the year.
• 51:47
  If a guy turns pro at the end to a season, why is he still on the
• 51:49
  list? We had a young man that was top
• 51:54
  10 all-time top, no top three all time indoors in an event and
• 51:59
  top for outdoors on the event and he was never in the top 10.
• 52:03
  But there was a guy in the top 10 that didn't even compete
• 52:06
  Outdoors. We've had people win this award
• 52:10
  and it's again it's the same thing.
• 52:11
  They sit in this room and they decide who they think are the
• 52:15
  best. Right.
• 52:18
  It's got really with a ticket into all in all these rooms is
• 52:23
  that listen as I owe you should give for the fan vote right
• 52:26
  there. Well, you should get deference.
• 52:30
  If I could sit down in a, you know, and have and have a beer
• 52:34
  with Seb Coe, man. Man, it'd be one of the more
• 52:39
  memorable conversations he ever listen to because he wouldn't
• 52:41
  get a word in edgewise. Does he see it?
• 52:45
  Is it. My thing is, this is like,
• 52:47
  there's just got to be a better process and if you're going to
• 52:51
  Put people in these positions, at least, you know, I'm gonna go
• 52:54
  back on the alphabet group like they got to do better.
• 52:59
  They got to do better just at the process is just one thing.
• 53:03
  Both of the real sweet, have 14 minutes and a performer of the
• 53:06
  year. I think both levels should have
• 53:08
  a performance and a performer of the year.
• 53:11
  Yeah, I want to ask you not to drag this out because we're
• 53:17
  home. We'll when all his Diamond
• 53:18
  League races as well. All the 400 hurdlers - ride
• 53:22
  Benjamin were in all those races.
• 53:23
  So it's not like he wasn't, but here's the thing, do we?
• 53:27
  We would we have preferred to see them.
• 53:32
  Beep. You know be soft about it and do
• 53:36
  a split a split winner. We are North African medically.
• 53:40
  Normally I would say absolutely not but in this particular case
• 53:44
  this is like one of the few times we're at.
• 53:47
  I actually made some sense. I'm with that.
• 53:51
  I wouldn't have been. I think I think I'm usually I
• 53:54
  hate that. I consider it a chickenshit
• 53:56
  thing to do most times but in this in this one I think that
• 54:00
  would have been the right thing to do.
• 54:02
  Yeah. And if we're going to look if
• 54:07
  we're if we're any money, this says, if they caught it at, I
• 54:11
  free. Ryan krauser would still be free
• 54:13
  writing project. Like I got money that says that,
• 54:17
  I mean you're probably right, really?
• 54:20
  alone that I'll just say this like look if if we're really
• 54:23
  going to fix it, if we're really going to fix it, You can't
• 54:28
  compare apples to kumquats in the first place and there needs
• 54:32
  to be a field event athlete of the year and, and attract of
• 54:37
  antacid of the year ago. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 54:42
  Because because then, you don't end up with this impossible
• 54:44
  nonsense, right? Like, I can't even empirically,
• 54:47
  say that Ryan krauser season was better than, than War homes.
• 54:54
  Other than, for the reasons. I just said it, right?
• 54:57
  But at the end of the day, like if neither one of them lost,
• 55:02
  Right. and you're comparing a 402, a shot putter, like But it
• 55:09
  ain't that ain't that way? And you know, I said this
• 55:14
  several weeks ago, right? There's always going to be a
• 55:17
  European bias is always going to be a track bias and we're home
• 55:21
  was going to win and I was gonna be mad.
• 55:22
  I said that I said that this is the thing.
• 55:26
  I just know what that Randy Barnes record means.
• 55:30
  Yeah, that that's that's like I know that means I grew up in
• 55:36
  that era so I know You break Randy Barnes wreck these the the
• 55:43
  Young Generation has no idea like what that means.
• 55:49
  Like, I don't know, I've been into sports, I see, because what
• 55:54
  Randy did is akin to what warm yesterday, right?
• 56:00
  Good that we never see anybody break it.
• 56:03
  Yeah. Crazy, crazy, crazy crazy.
• 56:12
  Let's get even crazier because if you thought we were done, but
• 56:15
  wait there's more. So we got a lot of letters to
• 56:19
  spew out on this one. Usatf is now under investigation
• 56:23
  from the FBI in regards to the relationship of their finances
• 56:29
  and Nike. I'm going to leave that.
• 56:32
  Lost it in the air for one of you to take a swing at Yeah, I'm
• 56:37
  going to be short and sweet. If if I could give a sound
• 56:42
  effect to reading. Today's article, it will be
• 56:46
  Desi, Arnaz, yelling at Lucille Ball.
• 56:48
  Lucy, you have some splaining to do because I read that article
• 56:55
  and I was like, listen, I've met Max seigle once.
• 56:59
  He didn't seem like a shady cat. It's usatf.
• 57:03
  I think they're in depth about a lot of things but I wouldn't
• 57:05
  necessarily say that I thought they were like crazy underhanded
• 57:09
  and then I read the article and I was like listen, you ain't
• 57:13
  ever gonna piss on my head and tell me it's raining.
• 57:16
  There's too many facts laid out. For you to ignore.
• 57:25
  This ain't a conspiracy theory and I'm going to say this one
• 57:28
  more caveat and pass it on the all every one of y'all know, if
• 57:32
  the FBA does, an FBI doesn't investigation.
• 57:34
  They already have the answer. They're just trying to collect
• 57:36
  the proof. FBI doesn't they don't do
• 57:41
  fishing explicit Expeditions. They know the answer.
• 57:45
  They're just trying to unearth all the proof so that y'all
• 57:48
  know. Yeah.
• 57:56
  I read the article, you know, I I like to read things.
• 58:03
  And I honestly when I opened it because of the publication that
• 58:08
  put it out, I didn't expect too much in it.
• 58:13
  Always a lot in there, it's a lot in there and so I when I
• 58:20
  started to read it I was like okay you know whatever by the
• 58:23
  end of it, and I'm like well shit that's not good. and you
• 58:30
  know, because, you know, the current FBI and the current
• 58:35
  justice department are Currently being run by professionals.
• 58:40
  Again, I imagine that uh this angle into well for some folks
• 58:47
  and I'm just going to sit back and You know enjoy reading the
• 58:53
  facts because man that it done it don't look good.
• 58:58
  It doesn't sound good. It definitely doesn't really
• 59:00
  good for the for the pillars. Did you learn something today?
• 59:04
  I learned a few things. Yeah, I learned.
• 59:07
  I learned those things today. It, hey, and it's weird at least
• 59:13
  for me it's weird when you read things in this kind of context
• 59:18
  about people that you clearly, you're not friends with but
• 59:22
  that, you know, in real life. Yeah.
• 59:24
  That, you know, until you've had legitimate conversations with,
• 59:28
  you know what I mean? I'm like, man, that's, that's
• 59:33
  not good. So, you know, if you haven't
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  read it, it's definitely worth the time to read most definitely
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  is worth the time to read. I just want to throw this in
• 59:43
  there, right? Like whether y'all what
• 59:46
  everybody will go read it or not like some of its going to be
• 59:49
  just highlights, just just know this part.
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  There was a deal done between a Offutt and a company and the two
• 1:00:03
  people that proctored the deal used to work for the for the
• 1:00:09
  company. Now, not knowing anybody's name
• 1:00:14
  the anybody company or anything, doesn't that sound wrong?
• 1:00:18
  Or at least, or at least questionable essentially, it
• 1:00:22
  just makes sure that the deal gets done.
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  No, that's that's nice. You walking up, you know,
• 1:00:30
  sitting at the bargaining table across from two former
• 1:00:34
  employees. I mean, I'm just saying.
• 1:00:41
  So guys, are we going to get this deal done?
• 1:00:43
  Yeah, yes, yes. I mean look real quick, baseball
• 1:00:48
  analogy, Jacob, the groms agent was Brody bandwagon in Brody
• 1:00:54
  bandwagon and got hired as the Mets general manager.
• 1:00:58
  And then a month later they did Jacob to G extension.
• 1:01:05
  Okay. Got it.
• 1:01:06
  That was tough. So birdie we think you should
• 1:01:09
  hit well, I don't know. Brody what?
• 1:01:14
  Yeah. What you got?
• 1:01:16
  What you got sir. Lucius that.
• 1:01:18
  Nothing. He's like, my name is Paul.
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  Yeah. All I'm saying is this is that
• 1:01:30
  the truth will come to light and when it does we'll let it shine
• 1:01:33
  brightly. That's all I gotta say, I'll add
• 1:01:36
  this because I because I failed to get something in on the last
• 1:01:40
  one that I wanted to add it, and I'll say this.
• 1:01:44
  I'm always. I'm always a little just like,
• 1:01:50
  come on man, really win. People in these type of crimes
• 1:01:58
  because it's not official yet. It's there's a crime, right?
• 1:02:00
  There's an investigation of what could be a crime, like the
• 1:02:04
  arrogance of these type of issues.
• 1:02:08
  Always, just astounds me. Like, if you weren't that
• 1:02:12
  arrogant, about the way you move, you probably wouldn't land
• 1:02:16
  in the situations that you land yourself scene.
• 1:02:19
  And it always blows my mind how people in these positions just
• 1:02:23
  obliviously just do whatever it is, they think they can do like
• 1:02:28
  it, it's wild to me it really is.
• 1:02:33
  You know what I thought was most damning the direct numerical
• 1:02:38
  comparison between track and field and swimming.
• 1:02:44
  Yes, the compensation packages, the compensation packages for
• 1:02:48
  the CEOs of the to for all intents and purposes, identical,
• 1:02:55
  and GBS. And that's that's what I mean.
• 1:02:59
  Like you got, if you're going to do some Kickbacks, you got to be
• 1:03:01
  smarter than that. Like, I mean, right?
• 1:03:06
  Like you need some Lincoln Riley, got to have, you got to
• 1:03:09
  hide some money. Look, we're gonna, we're gonna
• 1:03:12
  buy y'all. Had a million .5 / asking.
• 1:03:17
  Nobody will see that you'll be good.
• 1:03:19
  No, so so, so I don't think we have much more to add to.
• 1:03:25
  This is that fair? Yes.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah, I want, I want, I'm sorry for the revert, but I was trying
• 1:03:33
  to look. I was trying to pull this up
• 1:03:34
  because I instinctively felt like that might be a part of the
• 1:03:37
  ultimate decision-making on the athlete of the year.
• 1:03:41
  We all know that world Athletics likes to create things and then
• 1:03:47
  find interesting ways to justify what they created, right?
• 1:03:51
  So just understand this, the current world ranking structure
• 1:03:59
  that we are all operating on. Ryan Krauser's, world ranking,
• 1:04:05
  score is 1553 and carsten War homes is 1559.
• 1:04:14
  So by definition of their world ranking system, the right man,
• 1:04:19
  won the award. We all know I don't like the
• 1:04:23
  world, ranked who made it, the sis place, you know, I don't
• 1:04:29
  like the system, but yeah, based on their system, they gave you a
• 1:04:35
  long time. I am not sure why you chose to
• 1:04:38
  go back down that road because, because L, didn't notice is
• 1:04:41
  like, I didn't know, here's the thing, y'all didn't care, that's
• 1:04:48
  we didn't care. No, we did.
• 1:04:51
  Because that's based on that, they can say what they want is
• 1:04:54
  not change. Anybody's mind these screens,
• 1:04:56
  Ryan's better, better guy. Well, this you might care about
• 1:05:01
  Sir on that point. The ranking thing.
• 1:05:07
  Grant Highway should have been in the rent.
• 1:05:09
  Well, we knew that, yeah, but I'm just saying when you want to
• 1:05:13
  expose some but but why you are, that's what you are.
• 1:05:38
  Not even once upon a time, we wrote a whole level about the
• 1:05:41
  coaching Carousel with in track and field, well guess what?
• 1:05:45
  Now, another sport has to turn on the wheel and it's not a
• 1:05:49
  long-term. It's about kabillion turns,
• 1:05:52
  right? So if you haven't been privy to
• 1:05:56
  ESPN or any type of media Outlet, NCAA football has now
• 1:06:02
  joined the carousel. And their Carousel is moving,
• 1:06:07
  very fast. And I see it like this.
• 1:06:11
  And you can get just flung off at any moment.
• 1:06:14
  So let's try them in generated by money.
• 1:06:17
  I mean exactly the quarter. Asking for this, asking, for
• 1:06:51
  there to be a moratorium on, on coaching changes when your team
• 1:06:57
  still has a conference Championship or a national
• 1:07:01
  championship, still in, still in the mix is like, asking for
• 1:07:05
  common sense in a room full of crazy people.
• 1:07:08
  Hmm. It would make too much sense to
• 1:07:11
  do that. Hmm, which is one of the reasons
• 1:07:13
  is never going to happen. Like it would make too much
• 1:07:17
  sense because all these people can wait.
• 1:07:23
  Two weeks, three weeks. They could all.
• 1:07:25
  Wait that long. but, I digress. Let's get it.
• 1:07:30
  Let's get into this. So, I mean, I honestly don't
• 1:07:37
  have that much to say about this other than we all chose the
• 1:07:41
  wrong profession because let's be clear about this.
• 1:07:46
  And I do my line removing never lies and I mean this There is
• 1:07:53
  nothing from strength and conditioning to X's and O's that
• 1:08:00
  these people do that we couldn't do we just had a different
• 1:08:04
  passion and damn it. We have the cheap passion
• 1:08:07
  clearly cuz my goodness as far as the movement look.
• 1:08:15
  I have a big problem with anybody.
• 1:08:20
  Lincoln Riley is catching a lot of heat for his exit, right?
• 1:08:25
  My added. But he shouldn't let my and
• 1:08:27
  Brian Kelly is super. Here's my thing.
• 1:08:28
  My attitude is that he should if you have not ever been offered
• 1:08:33
  90 million dollars to do a thing, 110 million dollars to do
• 1:08:37
  a thing. Then your opinion don't really
• 1:08:39
  mean nothing to me because I'm going to tell you what, there's
• 1:08:42
  not a lot on this Earth. I wouldn't do for 90 to 110
• 1:08:45
  million dollars. So you know, We're I the part of
• 1:08:51
  it that I don't like is when it. I just wish the coaches with
• 1:08:57
  just step to the mic and be like, kiss my ass.
• 1:09:00
  I took the money because that's all it was.
• 1:09:03
  Let's be real about it. All the rest, all the rest of
• 1:09:06
  that is just PR like I'm mad at it, man.
• 1:09:11
  Do what you got to do? I assure you.
• 1:09:14
  Somebody calls me today and offers me 90 million dollars.
• 1:09:18
  I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go. It is what it is.
• 1:09:23
  So you know, I don't begrudge the coaches moving and this is
• 1:09:27
  why for all the pitfalls of it, I will never be upset at the
• 1:09:32
  transfer portal because this thing happens with coaches and
• 1:09:37
  if the coaches can snap their fingers and dip, then damn it.
• 1:09:41
  That players should be able to snap their fingers and dip tube.
• 1:09:43
  That's the only fair way to do it.
• 1:09:46
  I'm good with it. I'll have a problem hundred.
• 1:09:50
  No, I'm just going to say this that I do.
• 1:09:54
  There's always a back story at all this stuff and everybody
• 1:09:58
  wants to know why but Lincoln Riley want to leave.
• 1:10:00
  Why would, you know, Kelly want to leave while I was sewing.
• 1:10:03
  So want to leave know, who knows what was going on behind this
• 1:10:07
  things? But clearly obviously money is a
• 1:10:10
  big part of it, but I also got to believe they because people
• 1:10:14
  want to win, right? So Lincoln Riley, clearly thinks
• 1:10:17
  he's got a better chance of window cloth at USC does.
• 1:10:20
  No, chroma, and he might be right.
• 1:10:22
  Okay, sorry. Brian.
• 1:10:24
  Brian Kelly has a better chance of winning LL.
• 1:10:26
  Shoot me doesn't know her day, right?
• 1:10:28
  So at the end of the day, you know.
• 1:10:31
  Yeah LSU's. I'm gonna do that.
• 1:10:49
  And if someone called me and offered me a hundred, ten
• 1:10:52
  million dollars to go someplace where I thought I could do
• 1:10:55
  better, where I was, I'm out. Okay, so it's just that simple,
• 1:11:01
  so I don't get this old, they shouldn't do this.
• 1:11:04
  Okay. So then they'll do you say,
• 1:11:06
  folks are upset with these coaches when these players start
• 1:11:09
  jumping in the portal, as you know, next month or next week,
• 1:11:13
  in some cases, then be mad at them as well.
• 1:11:16
  It's a free country, free, do it.
• 1:11:19
  You want and I don't ever know how you get upset with somebody
• 1:11:22
  for creating generation or wealth for their family.
• 1:11:25
  So yeah. Is it my turn?
• 1:11:35
  Yes, absolutely, your turn. so, so like here's here's my take on
• 1:11:43
  this fan is short for fnatic part of being fanatic made.
• 1:11:48
  You don't think clearly, I get it.
• 1:11:50
  I get why the fans are mad, they're stupid.
• 1:11:53
  They're blinded about, they're blinded about their own personal
• 1:11:58
  wins on Saturday. Like my team needs to be good
• 1:12:02
  and I need to feel the victory of OU Notre Dame whatever
• 1:12:08
  because the reality is really simple, let's take the names and
• 1:12:12
  the money out of it. You make X.
• 1:12:18
  Someone comes to you and says, would you like to make 10 times
• 1:12:23
  x? And we will more than, but we'll
• 1:12:27
  call it 10 times x and we will buy your car for twice, what
• 1:12:32
  it's worth and will give you money to send your kids to
• 1:12:36
  college. Whatever your job was you're
• 1:12:40
  going to say yes. So at the end of the day like
• 1:12:44
  the OU fans are delusional. Because this isn't even about
• 1:12:48
  loyalty, first of all, like, nobody should have to be loyal
• 1:12:53
  to a system, that's not loyal to them college coaches.
• 1:12:56
  Get fired with winning records. In every sport certainly in
• 1:13:01
  football. Ask my man in Nebraska, that had
• 1:13:04
  a 10-year winning record, got fired.
• 1:13:07
  And they've watched the hot dumpster fire.
• 1:13:09
  Follow behind him. But Lincoln Riley.
• 1:13:15
  Listen, do you all the all remember when they offer Jon
• 1:13:18
  Gruden, 10 years, 100 million. And we were all like, oh my God.
• 1:13:23
  they offered him more, they offered him, 10 years, hundred
• 1:13:28
  million dollars, Plus some things that are listen. 24/7
• 1:13:35
  access to a private jet is unset incalculable.
• 1:13:38
  I don't know what that's worth. Six million dollar home, right,
• 1:13:44
  right. No no no, no bought you are home
• 1:13:46
  in Los Angeles. Mmm.
• 1:13:49
  Let alone the six million dollar home, you know, the Bel-Air spot
• 1:13:52
  but they bought you a home in Los Angeles where it's almost
• 1:13:54
  impossible to buy a home, right? The fact that they also bought
• 1:13:58
  your other two homes for a million dollars over asking,
• 1:14:01
  like this. What are we talking about
• 1:14:03
  nothing. The only guy in this mix who's
• 1:14:07
  changed jobs and look, when the Cincinnati guy gets offered a
• 1:14:10
  job that he probably deserves, right?
• 1:14:14
  When, if he gets offered, you know, one of the job, the big
• 1:14:16
  job that's open if he does good for him.
• 1:14:20
  That's the whole reason you go to Cincinnati, go win.
• 1:14:22
  That's what Brian Kelly. Did go win.
• 1:14:24
  At Cincinnati and somebody bigger will pay you.
• 1:14:26
  Like I get It Brian Kelly Brian Kelly exit is understandable but
• 1:14:33
  deplorable in the timing of it. Him leaving Notre Dame to go to
• 1:14:39
  LSU makes sense everywhere. I don't know where anybody on
• 1:14:44
  this planet things. Today LSU football brand is not
• 1:14:48
  a better current football brand, then Notre Dame and and most
• 1:14:52
  most importantly, it's to the constituency if you ask the kids
• 1:14:55
  who were being recruited. Sight.
• 1:14:58
  Unseen doesn't matter who the coaches.
• 1:15:00
  Would you rather go play at LSU or rather?
• 1:15:01
  Go play at Notre Dame? They're almost all going to say
• 1:15:03
  LSU. So I get why he left.
• 1:15:06
  But the system is broken to, where at least the NFL gets
• 1:15:11
  this, right? If your team still playing for
• 1:15:13
  something meaningful meaningful, you can't interview for jobs.
• 1:15:18
  Brian Kelly is going to be LSU's guy no matter what they
• 1:15:22
  obviously love him. But it's wrong for Brian Kelly.
• 1:15:28
  Be put in the position where he has to choose between the
• 1:15:31
  general or generational wealth of the LSU job or finishing the
• 1:15:35
  mission. He started with his hundred and
• 1:15:37
  ten football kids this year because let's be clear.
• 1:15:43
  All of us would have probably taken the bag at LSU.
• 1:15:47
  But he's put in a horrible situation because the system
• 1:15:51
  allows for this to happen in this time progression.
• 1:15:57
  See, I would I would argue that the system causes the problem
• 1:16:01
  because what, what, what's about to start recruiting?
• 1:16:05
  Yes. And you can't recruit if you
• 1:16:06
  don't have a head, coach told the system is the problem.
• 1:16:10
  And that's the reason that's the reason it happened right now.
• 1:16:14
  Yeah, exactly. That's the reason I think.
• 1:16:15
  Riley think, Riley was in LA on Fox are and shooting promo
• 1:16:22
  videos, fight on within 24, hours of the announcement
• 1:16:25
  because he got to go. The football games in SoCal.
• 1:16:28
  Now that's, that's exactly why what?
• 1:16:32
  I thought was awesome was, which was Clyde level Petty was
• 1:16:35
  winking. Riley got on the plane wearing
• 1:16:37
  OU gear and got SC gear and I thought that was hilarious.
• 1:16:43
  And they probably had the fact that he still had on OU J's on
• 1:16:47
  his feet was even funnier. Hmm.
• 1:16:50
  And we all know, they probably had given the, the tenants of
• 1:16:53
  deal. They probably had to come into
• 1:16:55
  America flower girls on the A plane waiting on him to change
• 1:16:58
  it, you know, know this this the profession of
• 1:17:17
  head coach in the NCAA is the most sweetheart deal.
• 1:17:25
  I don't think, I mean, we is there anything like this?
• 1:17:29
  Because, let's let's, let's call it.
• 1:17:32
  What it is, our okay? So let's so our head.
• 1:17:34
  Coaches allowed to have agents. Absolutely yes.
• 1:17:41
  So if you have an agent working for you and your agent calls you
• 1:17:46
  up after you just lost the Big 12 championship game and says,
• 1:17:50
  hey I need to talk to you like right now And proceeds to tell
• 1:17:56
  you this deal that's on the table.
• 1:17:59
  But you have to take this deal. Now, where do I sign?
• 1:18:07
  I mean, phone call goes like this.
• 1:18:09
  Governor. Are you good?
• 1:18:12
  Yes. Yes.
• 1:18:13
  I'm good. We we are going to Los Angeles
• 1:18:16
  for so to sign this deal. So that's how the cabooses she
• 1:18:21
  goes. I remember where this all
• 1:18:23
  started. Started this started right after
• 1:18:27
  UTSA was 8, or 9 and 0, and Texas Tech fires their head
• 1:18:34
  coach. And for a week.
• 1:18:38
  We are going through moving to the American being nationally
• 1:18:44
  ranked for the first time in our history.
• 1:18:47
  And oh, by the way, Texas Tech is calling.
• 1:18:51
  And it was like, it was like all at the same time like yes.
• 1:18:57
  All at the same time. Like everybody.
• 1:19:00
  Like you walked in the building and everyone was on pins and
• 1:19:04
  needles because it was this like how long is this going to last,
• 1:19:09
  right? And this is what it is, this is
• 1:19:12
  what it is. Money Talks period, right?
• 1:19:18
  But To get to this point and what?
• 1:19:22
  We've just experienced in the last 72 hours.
• 1:19:26
  I mean, you can't even enjoy or wallow in your self-pity, you
• 1:19:32
  just lost the champion, you just lost the game to go to the
• 1:19:36
  championship game, but hey, we need you to make a decision like
• 1:19:40
  right now, Like right now and we need you to get as much rest as
• 1:19:46
  you can take some some naps in between interviews but hey we
• 1:19:51
  gotta move and we're moving now so I just don't want people to
• 1:19:57
  forget. Brian Kelly gave Notre Dame 12
• 1:19:59
  years. Yeah.
• 1:20:01
  And they were against the winningest coach in history.
• 1:20:06
  Yes. Right.
• 1:20:07
  So like he don't really owe y'all nothing.
• 1:20:12
  So and back to the Allure of the LSU job, the Mad Hatter and
• 1:20:19
  Coach. Oh mmm.
• 1:20:21
  Both won national titles. That.
• 1:20:22
  Right? So here's the other side.
• 1:20:25
  Here's the other side because The question that we have with
• 1:20:31
  the, we can probably answer quite quickly.
• 1:20:35
  We'll both of those coaches. Make it to the end of that. 10
• 1:20:38
  year contract. I'm Kelly.
• 1:20:41
  Will you think I really will? Okay.
• 1:20:44
  Well, I mean, what, like, you just said he was at the question
• 1:20:49
  for you, right? Nobody's gonna come in and pay
• 1:20:51
  me a hundred and twenty million. Okay, so so what, if he doesn't
• 1:20:58
  meet the standards that they want?
• 1:21:00
  And that's, that's what I'm getting at.
• 1:21:02
  Yeah, I think Kelly. Yeah, the look at the look at
• 1:21:05
  the parameters of his deal. That's yeah.
• 1:21:08
  So so all I think, I think I think the the T towards crew
• 1:21:14
  will come for Brian Kelly way before they come from Nick
• 1:21:16
  O'Brien, grow so much wine. That's funny that you say that I
• 1:21:21
  completely disagree. Whether it happens or not, okay,
• 1:21:48
  and it's funny because it's we just popped up.
• 1:21:52
  Tom Herman can return to the stress of being a college
• 1:21:55
  football coach or have UT play. Pay him 6.5 million in 2022 and
• 1:22:02
  six point seven. Five million in 2023 to hang out
• 1:22:06
  in Chicago work as an analyst with the Bears.
• 1:22:10
  Spend weekends with his family. Yeah, Herman's going on.
• 1:22:15
  Direct deposit. The best.
• 1:22:18
  Lick the best. Lick in America.
• 1:22:22
  And if you don't understand that terminology go to Urban
• 1:22:25
  Dictionary, the best. Lick in America is get the
• 1:22:31
  college football, head coaching job, and the screw it up and
• 1:22:35
  screw it up. You can go kick it.
• 1:22:37
  Yeah. Oh, please Charlie Charlie.
• 1:22:41
  Charlie Weis was getting paid. Yep by Notre Dame and Kansas.
• 1:22:48
  That's right for, like, for like seven years.
• 1:22:51
  Yep, Phil Fulmer. I mean, Phil, Phil Fulmer is
• 1:22:57
  still at Tennessee. Okay?
• 1:23:02
  I mean, it's, I don't know. It's just Insanity, man, it's
• 1:23:07
  Insanity. I'd and The question that we
• 1:23:10
  have to wonder is where's the ceiling?
• 1:23:13
  Where we going with this. So, we've now cracked 10 million
• 1:23:17
  a year. Right, we're there to this.
• 1:23:22
  The NCAA convention is coming up in January.
• 1:23:25
  Ain't No Ceilings, brother, Ain't No Ceilings.
• 1:23:31
  So yeah. That's so crazy.
• 1:23:38
  So crazy. Well, we successfully made it
• 1:23:43
  through all of our topics without a completely
• 1:23:47
  dismantling, or screens or throwing something.
• 1:23:52
  So, with that said, I am going to invite sir Lucius into the
• 1:23:56
  line of fire for rapid fire. This evening, in my holiday
• 1:24:02
  spirit, I feel like this is a lighter subject for our last
• 1:24:06
  July, may, I ask you a question please.
• 1:24:09
  Oh yes. You behave yourself, please?
• 1:24:12
  Yes. This actually is a good one.
• 1:24:14
  Actually. A good one.
• 1:24:15
  So, well, it's safe. It's a rated G because because
• 1:24:20
  Clyde knows you like to come from my neck doesn't speak to
• 1:24:26
  the governor. You don't know this but like she
• 1:24:28
  gets very suspect some of her questions.
• 1:24:30
  Okay, look this is a good one. I think make it Rapids to make
• 1:24:35
  it real. There we go.
• 1:24:37
  What is the most old man is first thing that you do, Fall
• 1:24:42
  asleep when I stood on that year.
• 1:24:47
  I like it but in the 200-meter who's going to win granter?
• 1:24:53
  I really. Okay.
• 1:25:00
  Assuming that you were going to say that I'm going to make you
• 1:25:02
  pick Dennis Rodman or Chris Anderson AKA bird bin Rodman.
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  Got it. Do you know what your
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  astrological sign is? Scorpio.
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  Okay. Got it.
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  What? Which seat on the bus is yours?
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  The second one on the right when we get 0.
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  So I'm walking down on the bus driver side.
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  Secondly, right off limits and I don't share No matter who's on
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  the bus with, I feel like that was a job at wifey.
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  Not at all. She has her own seat.
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  Like I love it. What is your Favorite
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  Thanksgiving food, remix. Oh wow.
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  So yeah. I mean CI this year, it was the
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  yams and the mac and cheese. Oh my God.
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  Oh my God. Like I literally went back for
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  seconds. There was no meat on my plate.
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  Yeah, it was it was definitely going to leave it to the
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  gentleman to muck it up. Who's the best team?
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  Who's the best team in the country University of Georgia?
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  All right. See that's so funny.
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  I thought he was going to be super Petty and say Florida
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  track and field for whatever reason.
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  That's what I thought was coming, see I would help, I
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  wasn't even mad at that. So you understand I don't have
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  to be Petty because I have very Petty friends.
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  I'm kidnapped be Petty because he's got those Rings it says it
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  for itself, Focus. So guys go over there and ask
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  questions. Boom, you go for a governor?
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  Yes, sir. Okay.
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  This this is more. This is more based on University
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  of Florida. Your favorite color uniform that
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  your team wears. You would do that with actually.
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  It's the white one that this the one piece where it's the white
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  up top of the bun, the bottom is got the big Gator here.
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  Oh yes, that's my favorite whore.
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  Either some moments in Florida history.
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  We're in that in those white uniforms.
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  I mean, it's exactly. Yeah, you know as as my man
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  Curtis likes to say was Florida shows up white and then shortly,
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  why? You know there, right?
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  Yes, indeed. It's a, you were here for some
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  of that weren't you? Oh yeah, absolutely.
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  Yep. Break Free.
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  Ryan krauser was a hoof. I'm trying to be kind and stay
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  in the same realm as everybody else.
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  Cuz you know the problem is I know too much about you.
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  Let's let's do a a simple one. You can only coach one event for
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  the remainder of your coaching career.
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  Just one. I won't say which gender you can
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  do both genders, and only coach one event.
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  What is it? I don't like you.
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  I know, I know. It's a toss-up between the
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  hurdles and the 400. Here you go?
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  Sure because why I don't have to be Petty because I have Petty
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  friends, Harvey. Harvey props on.
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  Yes. All right, I'm gonna go because
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  with my first power 5 meet week happening bless our equipment,
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  people. And every equipment person out
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  there because we send you email after email after email and
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  every email is different and sometimes you get the same email
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  from five different people and I know you want to throw things at
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  us. So all of the equipment people
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  out there are guy Victor. Love you.
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  All you all rock for dealing with all Twenty-something teams
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  or whoever you have to manage. I was thinking about this one
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  all day and I have decided on this one, my heartbeat props go
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  to someone. I have no idea if you're
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  watching the show but my heart be props.
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  Go to the gentleman who is single-handedly responsible for
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  bringing me out of retirement. And more importantly, Rekindling
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  my love, my everyday, love for coaching and for the sport of
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  track and field and that that that is one, mr.
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  Linden Victor. Watch what soon.
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  Come folks. Watch.
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  What soon come. Nice nice.
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  I'll go. Mine is a more General this week
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  as we all know, I'm a political junkie.
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  And if you haven't been paying attention after 50 years of
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  struggle, the Supreme Court is now debating or listening to
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  arguments debating the validity of ultimately what boils down to
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  the Roe v-- Wade challenge that the Servitor of right?
• 1:31:21
  Has found a way to finagling it before this very specific
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  version of the Supreme Court. It doesn't look good for how
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  this thing will end for women in this country not because the
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  people arguing Mississippi side of the case have the better
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  argument. They absolutely don't.
• 1:31:42
  Their arguments are actually ridiculous, but a lot of people
• 1:31:46
  feel that this this Ruling is ultimately stacked in the favor
• 1:31:55
  and done on purpose. I'm really hoping that that's
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  not the case. I'm really hoping that these
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  people who spent a lifetime trying to, you know, in their
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  careers, trying to become judges, find a moment to
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  actually listen to the arguments and choose not to set us back 50
• 1:32:13
  years, not to set women's reproductive health and all the
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  progress that women Have made in this country in every space
• 1:32:23
  because they have the right to choose and self determining
• 1:32:27
  their own bodies. I hope that they find some
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  wisdom and do the right thing here.
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  I don't actually think that's going to happen, but just
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  because in this moment, I have to root for the better side of
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  humanity. I'm hoping that these people
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  find some integrity and do what's right here, but we'll
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  see. Hey governor.
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  Oh, so much to think about May my heart be props, go out to my
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  kids and every now and then I have to stop and think about
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  what my ten-year-old and eight-year-old have to navigate
• 1:33:15
  through. and it's not something that's necessarily like in your
• 1:33:23
  face, but I mean, it's it's it's real like I and it's not
• 1:33:35
  something that I can even sit down and explain to them.
• 1:33:37
  I'm just kind of watching how they're dealing with with this
• 1:33:44
  life that we live and thinking about how naive and how, you
• 1:33:52
  know, just when you talk about, just just waking up everyday
• 1:33:58
  with, you know, no particular plan and purpose or anything
• 1:34:03
  like that and going through your day as a kid that we
• 1:34:07
  experienced. and that is no longer the case, that's no
• 1:34:12
  longer the case and especially having to beautiful black girls,
• 1:34:20
  I have to really, you know, give them props because they are
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  thriving and it's fun to watch. It's fun to see them, take on
• 1:34:32
  the challenges, in a classroom in sports, you know.
• 1:34:39
  And that's, you know, that's, that's heartwarming to me
• 1:34:43
  because it makes me feel like, whatever it is.
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  It my parents passed on to me. I am now pass.
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  Icing onto them and they're, they're taking that, that
• 1:34:53
  knowledge and they're, they're doing something with it.
• 1:34:59
  That's it, that's all I have to say, saying that's why you're
• 1:35:02
  the governor, you know, this whole thing with the carousel
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  with college football, just got me a little pensive this
• 1:35:15
  weekend, and I started thinking about the the effect that has on
• 1:35:19
  these coaches families. And I don't think, you know, it
• 1:35:24
  was a bad situation and people get fired, it's always bad.
• 1:35:27
  And even when it's a good situation, Get babes of dollars,
• 1:35:30
  you know, wives are forced to leave behind friends the
• 1:35:34
  children unfortunately behind thin friends, and their allies
• 1:35:37
  are uprooted. So, my heart be props goes to
• 1:35:39
  those people but the wise who now have to piece things
• 1:35:43
  together and get the house packed up and move forward, the
• 1:35:46
  children who have had their lives uprooted and now they have
• 1:35:49
  to go someplace new and start new friends.
• 1:35:51
  So kudos to them all the best as you move on to your new lives.
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  And Hope it goes well. Great words by everyone this
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  week. So definitely for all of you
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  traveling, listening on the bus - listening in the hotel.
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  Best wishes safe travel run far or run fast.
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  Throw far johar, jump high. I know that was a little off so
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  have a great weekend will see you all soon.
• 1:36:20
  Good night, Evan thanking Riley. Let me hold Somethin Birds up.
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  Would you like to come on?