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Coach O Reacts To LSU’s Lane Kiffin Hire + Where His Next Dream Job Will Be | Bussin’ · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 4: we had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a critical interview we just had, Yeah, Coajo Coacho.
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  Speaker 4: We had him on for over two hours on the
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  Speaker 4: bus and dude, let me tell you, the first thirty
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  Speaker 4: minutes kind of asking questions. He's answering questions right like
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  Speaker 4: as if it's an interview. Maybe not even a full
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  Speaker 4: thirty minutes. I would say about twenty minutes in that podcast,
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  Speaker 4: the dude ripped his tarp off figuratively not literally and
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  Speaker 4: just went into storytime.
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  Speaker 2: Full coach O, full coach O.
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  Speaker 4: And it's one of those I kind of wish he
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  Speaker 4: was still the head coach of LSU. I don't kind of.
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  Speaker 4: I absolutely wish he was still the head coach of LSU.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is perfect.
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  Speaker 4: He is perfectly suited personality wise to be a part
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  Speaker 4: of Louisiana, the whole thing. He understands the culture of
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  Speaker 4: the people everything, dude. Yeah, and the stories of being
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  Speaker 4: at USC bouncing around him, being at Miami with the
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  Speaker 4: Rock like, dude, it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, it's a little past three right now.
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  Speaker 2: We're in the middle of our six on this bus.
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  Speaker 2: We will for the fans, keep this one, keep this
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  Speaker 2: one light, keep it shorter than usual. Yep, because I'm
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  Speaker 2: fighting right now, for fighting, I'm fighting.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta keep the enthusiasm.
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  Speaker 2: I just caught myself a couple of times. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it starts to get a little stuffy. Yeah, with the boys, it.
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  Speaker 4: Is getting warmer on this place right now. We're all
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  Speaker 4: breathing a little bit of hot air at this point. One.
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  Speaker 4: A couple has done a couple of things and our
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  Speaker 4: college football our recap. We talked about the All Cast,
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  Speaker 4: how awesome that was being on it. But before that,
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  Speaker 4: before that, now, we have had an incredible luxury this
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  Speaker 4: year with Flyhouse partnering with us and having the ability
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  Speaker 4: to fly in a private jet from New York every
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  Speaker 4: single week when we're doing our fall camp tour, our
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  Speaker 4: training camp tour, we get on a private jet and
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  Speaker 4: it is, dude, it's an incredible luxury to have. We understand,
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  Speaker 4: how like, how.
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  Speaker 2: I need a fight. I need to stop fucking feeling
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  Speaker 2: sorry for myself. What are you doing with the yawn
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  Speaker 2: overtakes you?
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  Speaker 4: And right now, right now, I'm fighting for my life
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  Speaker 4: right now, not to yawn back.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Yawns are contagious, Like I can feel it kind of
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  Speaker 4: right here. I'm myself for myself with the possibility of
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  Speaker 4: even doing it. But yes, shout out JJ and shout
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  Speaker 4: out fly House because they've hooked us up big time
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  Speaker 4: this year about flying out of the place. We understand how
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  Speaker 4: big of a deal that is and it does not
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  Speaker 4: go past us at all. It's very interesting, however, that
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  Speaker 4: every week we fly to New York that we are
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  Speaker 4: on a smaller jet. Again, not complaining. This is not
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  Speaker 4: a complain thing. This is just an observational thing. Every
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  Speaker 4: time Jeremy Clump has been on a jet with us,
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  Speaker 4: that's a big boy. Now, that's a house that flies
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  Speaker 4: through the air. That thing damn near two stories, right,
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  Speaker 4: you're the Red River Robbery. Clump's on there. All of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden, we're in a challenge with three hundred and
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  Speaker 4: the next week we're in a small little putter going
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  Speaker 4: to New York. Yeah, this weekend we fly to Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: forty minute flight and we're taking a damn apartment complex
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  Speaker 4: in the air. And wouldn't you know it, Jeremy clumps
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  Speaker 4: on the plane.
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  Speaker 2: A on the nice plane is always clump.
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  Speaker 4: It's always clump, and it's always packaged in a certain way. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: we need more guys for the Red.
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  Speaker 1: Ribberry, So we get it.
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  Speaker 4: Twill's birthday. We're gonna get a bigger plane. Hey, SEC Championship,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonnat. We gotta get a bigger plane. Forty minute
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  Speaker 4: flight and you come and let me just say this,
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  Speaker 4: you have done without Clump managing everything like Will and
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  Speaker 4: I basically just got on a plane, had no idea
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  Speaker 4: where to go, what to do, where we were staying,
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  Speaker 4: what the ride was, how we were gonna eat. We're
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  Speaker 4: essentially newborn infants that are calling an SEC Championship game
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  Speaker 4: on the on the ESPN. So Clump's connecting all the dots.
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  Speaker 4: So for that, I say thank you. But there was
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  Speaker 4: a situation going to Mercedes Benz Stadium where we drive
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  Speaker 4: up to the stadium where about an hour ahead of him,
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  Speaker 4: we're actually supposed to be there. But then we just
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  Speaker 4: keep on driving and I'll let you take over from
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  Speaker 4: their clump because it was an interesting, interesting vantage point
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  Speaker 4: for me to watch you.
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  Speaker 2: We're supposed to arrive at two thirty the night before.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, PAYT the night before is like, yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: got us arriving at two thirty. Like I like to
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  Speaker 2: get there, we like, you know, walk the stadium. He
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  Speaker 2: starts putting us, he started getting the helmet on. You're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we do kind of need to walk to the stadium,
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  Speaker 2: kind of figure we're oute the lay of the land.
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  Speaker 2: And so we're like, all right, let's get to the
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  Speaker 2: stadium at one thirty. So let's leave clump books to
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  Speaker 2: the bus or whatever for one o'clock. We get in
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  Speaker 2: the bus, we're riding over. We're what apparently seven minutes
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  Speaker 2: away from the Like we're not far from the stadium whatsoever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: I think we started driving and forty minutes later after
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  Speaker 2: we lap around the entire stadium. We realized we're about
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  Speaker 2: to come back up on the stop light where which
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  Speaker 2: we were like twenty five minutes ago, And so Clump
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  Speaker 2: starts getting a little ante. We're all getting a little antsy, like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: are we going to even get there on time? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And Taylor's in the front. He's like, Clump, you need
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  Speaker 2: to come up here, Like, I can't be the one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm trying to tell the
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  Speaker 2: guy right.
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  Speaker 4: All respect to our driver, his English is pretty broken,
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  Speaker 4: and so he's trying to tell me things. It's more
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  Speaker 4: directional facial expression stuff. I'm thinking myself.
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  Speaker 2: And we're yelled to the back of the van, like, hey, Clump,
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  Speaker 2: where we going?
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  Speaker 4: Do you learn when we have a van? I'm never
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  Speaker 4: sitting in the front again. It used to be all
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  Speaker 4: can me in and out? Probably get myself a little
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  Speaker 4: more leg room. I'll be in the back from here
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  Speaker 4: on out. Boys, I'll be in the back. Worse spot
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  Speaker 4: to be in the front, man, and I am forever
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  Speaker 4: Clump will be in the front. I will get my
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  Speaker 4: ass so far in the back with the least amount
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  Speaker 4: of responsibility you could possibly have. Clump looks at this guy.
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  Speaker 4: He comes up, buddy, you getting through to hold on.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, let's let's just address that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, We got to address that.
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  Speaker 4: I wish we had that camera.
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  Speaker 5: It was a little bit of a tight squeeze.
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  Speaker 4: My bull was stuck for a minute, wasn't he dude?
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  Speaker 4: He goes too, because it's like it's like a two
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  Speaker 4: to one type of situation. So there's a nice little alley,
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  Speaker 4: but then the front seat is like a little three
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  Speaker 4: seater and then the door. So the crack no joke
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  Speaker 4: is about yay big.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that boy got stuck between the seats and
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  Speaker 2: the door on the wil I squeezed through. And then
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  Speaker 2: once he snuck through, I said, yeah, I got that
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  Speaker 2: on fields. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I thought I thought you were gonna post it.
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  Speaker 6: But uh, what what really was concerning when that whole
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  Speaker 6: thing was going is Josh kind of knew where we
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  Speaker 6: were going. And I heard him go, oh, we missed
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  Speaker 6: our our garage, and I'm like, oh no, so we passed.
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  Speaker 6: He's like, oh, we can come up here on the right,
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  Speaker 6: and we go by it again. He was and we
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  Speaker 6: went by that one now and we asked the driver.
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  Speaker 6: We're like, uh, like we have a parking path for
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  Speaker 6: the Red Garage and he said, oh no, I'm trying
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  Speaker 6: to find a spot for after the game where there's
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  Speaker 6: no traffic so you guys can find me.
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  Speaker 5: So that's where I'm gonna stop. And we basically were like, we.
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  Speaker 4: Speak for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Club's like, we got a parking pass, Like that's not
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  Speaker 2: even gonna be an issue.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was basically said, we have a parking pass.
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, we don't even care. I don't
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  Speaker 6: even care about where we get picked up after the game.
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  Speaker 6: We need to get into the game. Now, you and
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  Speaker 6: I can plan where you pick us up after the game.
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  Speaker 6: We got to get into the game and I don't
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  Speaker 6: know where the where it got lost, but we kept
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  Speaker 6: driving and then we got to a spot and Josh like,
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  Speaker 6: we can get out here and walk. Josh was getting
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  Speaker 6: anty too. It's like I was, I was anty, but
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  Speaker 6: Josh's getting antsy.
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  Speaker 4: Josh was a nanty in the way Josh Pai get's
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  Speaker 4: antsy and beause we're right, we're.
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  Speaker 2: Right there outside the stadium, but everybody's directing us, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you have to go this way, and we're kind of
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  Speaker 2: getting to the point to why, Hey, we think we
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  Speaker 2: should just get out of the van right.
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  Speaker 4: Now, right police officers, so you can go straight and
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  Speaker 4: then go down in the tunnel areahere you're assuming the
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  Speaker 4: teams are going to go into correct yes, and then
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  Speaker 4: the police officer wants severe right. The guys werell in
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  Speaker 4: the window like half cracked. The guys like that's not
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  Speaker 4: gonna fit. You're not gonna be able to You have
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  Speaker 4: to turn and right here Clump's trying to talk to
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  Speaker 4: the guy. We end up turning right. As soon as
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  Speaker 4: we turn right, Clump is like, open the door so
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  Speaker 4: we can get out, and they st He's like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: let me just. The drivers like, let me just He's like, sir, please, sir, please, sir,
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  Speaker 4: sure sir.
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  Speaker 1: Open the door.
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  Speaker 4: Open the door. Please open the door right now. Open
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  Speaker 4: the door right now, sir, sir, please please, sir. I'm
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  Speaker 4: in I'm sitting over here. I think at one point
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  Speaker 4: I even went.
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  Speaker 1: Open the door.
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  Speaker 4: Please. I'm getting nervous. Clumb, it's all.
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  Speaker 2: Clumb starts to open the door while we're driving. Stop
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  Speaker 2: the man stop.
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  Speaker 4: The van door was bing started. He Clump's opening the
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  Speaker 4: door himself.
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  Speaker 6: The door is open. I'm telling him to stop. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: I said stop the van. Stop the van, Sir, stop
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  Speaker 6: the van multiple times.
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  Speaker 4: We get out of this van and I walk over
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  Speaker 4: to the police officer that just told us you have
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  Speaker 4: to turn right. I'm like, hey, we got to go
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  Speaker 4: down this way. We're calling the game. He tells me
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  Speaker 4: straight up, no, shot, that's where I go. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: fall back and let somebody else handle the bad guy
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  Speaker 4: type of thing. I'm not gonna be no motherfucker I'm
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  Speaker 4: calling you know, I'm not doing that. So I go
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  Speaker 4: back to lean back. I go clump because I can
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  Speaker 4: already tell clumps in that mode. Right about that, he
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  Speaker 4: about the body back. Some motherfuckers, I go clump. Clumbs
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  Speaker 4: are walking away.
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  Speaker 1: I look back.
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  Speaker 4: The police officers alread basically told me to fuck off.
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  Speaker 4: He's back at his station. He's walked fifteen feet away
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  Speaker 4: from me, and uh Pate's like, hey, we can walk
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  Speaker 4: down this way. Follow the road, bro. We followed the road,
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  Speaker 4: basically walking right next to the car we were in
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  Speaker 4: for a second. There. It was bad to where luckily.
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  Speaker 2: Jars had the last laugh.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, he was right in that one moment.
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  Speaker 4: In that moment, yeah, totally of everything. He wasn't at
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  Speaker 4: the end, he was correct.
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  Speaker 5: He was correct.
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  Speaker 6: I did apologize to him. I was like, hey, sorry,
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  Speaker 6: I got a little crazy there, but uh, we got
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  Speaker 6: to the game.
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  Speaker 4: I would hey, listen when we when we walked out,
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  Speaker 4: and it was pandemonium. People walking in were rushing to
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  Speaker 4: get to the airport. We're trying to find the van.
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  Speaker 4: There's a piece. But it's like this motherfucker left us,
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  Speaker 4: you know, doubt.
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  Speaker 6: I know he was telling me like where to go,
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  Speaker 6: and I was getting worried, like I think he left us.
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  Speaker 6: And I was ready for that moment to be like,
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  Speaker 6: this is all my fault. He did this because of
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  Speaker 6: me saying to stop.
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  Speaker 5: But but we got there.
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  Speaker 2: It was gray as a voice opened the door. Stop
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  Speaker 2: the van, Stop the van, No stop right here.
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  Speaker 6: I got out and then Will try to get out
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  Speaker 6: and he starts closing the door on Will.
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  Speaker 5: You wouldn't let Will out. At first, it was it
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  Speaker 5: was fun. You guys didn't hear I'm telling on myself.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 5: There was another police officer who walked up.
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  Speaker 6: And it was a woman and she goes, we were
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  Speaker 6: telling you to turn right because you could have went
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  Speaker 6: down that way. Just so you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if you guys heard that. She's like the driver was right.
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  Speaker 6: That's what she said to me.
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  Speaker 1: One.
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  Speaker 4: Oh damn, no, damn. Would you like to address the
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: allegations that bust one of the boys, only flies on
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  Speaker 4: big private jets when Jeremy Clump is in attendance.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, I guess I could address that. I think
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  Speaker 6: it's true. I don't have anything to fight against. I
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  Speaker 6: to be honest, that is definitely it is. It has
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  Speaker 6: added up to be true. You like to be comfortable,
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  Speaker 6: but we all like to be coming and I like
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: to be similarity. I will be flying with you guys
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  Speaker 6: to New York this week on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 4: Oh so we're getting a big boy.
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  Speaker 6: No, we are not. We're taking the normal one that
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  Speaker 6: we are grateful for. We will be on that one together.
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  Speaker 4: Again, extremely grateful.
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  Speaker 1: But what.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this will be my first time on the smaller jet.
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  Speaker 4: You know what sucks. This podcast is for the people,
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  Speaker 4: by the people, and I'm sure the last thing they
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  Speaker 4: want to hear from us is bitching about what private
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  Speaker 4: jet we're getting on. How tone deaf can we possibly be?
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  Speaker 4: Clump my fault taking care of the.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to becoming.
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  Speaker 4: This podcast is built on Southwest man, I did fighting
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  Speaker 4: for the exit row.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, hey commercial, four am.
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  Speaker 4: Driving from what Baton Rouge to New Orleans, Charlotte.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this weekend just for fun, just to get it.
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  Speaker 4: Jack and I we still we rore on Southwest on
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  Speaker 4: the way to Vegas. They tell me we can get
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  Speaker 4: out there.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 6: We did stay in one hotel room with three men
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  Speaker 6: and uh at the sec cham. I love that I
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  Speaker 6: slept on a cot, but I just want to I
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  Speaker 6: slept on a cot.
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  Speaker 4: And I hope to God that Sherman and Mitch have
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  Speaker 4: the photo of you cut them with g and the
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  Speaker 4: angle of your legs.
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  Speaker 1: Dog man.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mind it. Some bros hanging out together on
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  Speaker 4: a bed that ain't nothing, but they.
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  Speaker 1: Hangle those knees threw me off.
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  Speaker 4: Bro something like, he looks comfortable, calm, looks something. Look
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  Speaker 4: he trying to comfortable. He's trying to he's trying to snuggle.
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  Speaker 5: Come on now, six year anniversary on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Let's congratulations running plus on that dude. Six years. I'd
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  Speaker 4: see the post.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just comfortable with my skin. Shout out the winds.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: You guys all sleep like comfortably? Like does anybody have
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  Speaker 2: any night terrors? Or snoring, no breathing.
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  Speaker 6: There was one moment they were making fun of me.
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: I guess I dose off and like snort.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we were just hanging out in that room. It's
• 14:03
  Speaker 7: probably like eleven thirty and me and you you're like
• 14:05
  Speaker 7: casually were what was it the two end game?
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: We finished up two.
• 14:08
  Speaker 7: We put on like the end of Ocean twelve, going
• 14:10
  Speaker 7: to Oceans thirteen, just like letting the night die down,
• 14:13
  Speaker 7: and you kind of hear clumps stop making little remarks
• 14:16
  Speaker 7: here and there. You can tell he's probably a sleeve
• 14:18
  Speaker 7: and then you should go, oh my god, he goes.
• 14:20
  Speaker 7: I just woke myself up with my storing, and he
• 14:24
  Speaker 7: just woke himself up just from pure snoring.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: So it was beautiful.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: But yeah, we had a great time. I mean, three
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: dudes in one room doesn't sound ideal. We made it work.
• 14:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's easy to make it work. Also, at
• 14:35
  Speaker 7: the hotel we're staying at. Not gonna say the name
• 14:38
  Speaker 7: the topic of this conversation.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I will say this a moment of gratitude. Uh,
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: the morning of the alt cast, we all go down,
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: we have coffee, We sit there, we're chopping it up
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: about the game that's taking place, and then we kind
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: of like get into the year as we're having conversation
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: around all these Georgia and Alabama fans. We're sitting in
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: a really nice tell all the TVs at one point
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: have our FanDuel commercial on, and we kind of look
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: at each other and we're like, bro, what an insane
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: year this has been for us to be sitting here
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: about to do it all casts on the actual ESPN
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: and we're all just having coffee. It did. It was unbelievable.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: It was truly unbelievable.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Man preparing had a Georgia coach come up to us
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: talking about being familiar with the brand and everything else.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: We had this couple, this married couple that was talking
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: about how one's a Georgia fan wants a Bama fan.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: They've been together since twenty twelve and they've went to
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: every Alabama Georgia game together and they buy they sitting
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: in different sections of the stadium because they're like, we
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: don't we won't watch games together.
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: They're staying in ten to both of them are like, yeah, no,
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: we don't sit with each other.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's great to know that both those people
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: understood each other enough to not put their relationship in jeopardy. Yeah,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: during those times. That's a key to a healthy relationship,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: as understanding how the other one kicked ticks.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: So in the night before getting the go getting the
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: partake in Josh Pat's live show, which by the way,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: filled it out.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Crushed it thousand plus people.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, killed the dude. You walked out the crowd too,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Like Josh Pa handle himself very well because the crowd
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: was just full of Georgie and Alabama fans, tense.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Like, kind of scary.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: He can kind of cut it with a knife.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: And then Will and I kind of went out. I
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: started playing heel a little bit. They started ganging up
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: on us for being big ten guys. Then you caught
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: a guy rooting for Kentucky.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look at this, I just randomly stayed Nebraska. Whoop Kentucky.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Georgia fans stays, oh what do you Kentucky? Walk at now? Yeah,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: everybody's laughing him. He's pent up, ready to fight the
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: BAMA fan behind him.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, one guy wouldn't couldn't get his first question out.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: He was ready to swing on old buddy.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: And then you had the financial guys, they just break
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: down a clause.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that question dude was so he's like, he said,
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: I have a question in a statement, and he's just
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: sitting there, going and going and going. I'm watching you, guys,
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Jack goes, he's gonna body that. One of these guys
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: gonna body this guy. I forget one of you said
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: something that was so funny.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, your fans are much smarter.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: Some something that just hit though. But we're all sitting
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: there waiting for it to end, and he's just bud.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I looked over it, Josh, what's all for you, buddy?
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: No way, I don't even know what happened. Parton is
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I think we gotta hire this guy like he got
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: he gotta know something we don't. Maybe dude needs a
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: job with us so we can just kind of understand.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: But it was awesome.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: They love some Josh Pate. We got to meet Josh
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Pate's parents.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: His dad is a legend. His mom too. She was
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: great because you can just tell what she's put up
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: with for the last however many years. But go ahead,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: what was his dad saying?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: He comes up to me, I'll.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Tell you what, And I go to shake his head.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: He goes, you I watch I'm a Bama fan. Now,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: all right, you are the nastiest son of a bitch
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: I've ever seen play football in my life. It's not hello,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: my name is mister Pate to me, I don't know
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: his first name. He doesn't know my name, and we're
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: like laughing. He goes, but yeah, that's good for you,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: and he's just going into it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Dad.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: He's like, I guarantee, I guarantee. I'm telling you. You
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: know those where I'm like, oh, this dude consumed consumed
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: roy D Mercer back in the day's selm bitch I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: ever seen him the football field. But that that's a compliment,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that's a comment that means you're hell of a player.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I caught a couple this weekend and I was like,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: maybe I did do it right Dad. At the end,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: he's kind of like, you play. You played the game
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: where you're supposed to play it now. And then Spikes
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: comes up during our all casting before he gets on,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: but he like gave me the stamp. He's like, bro,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I knew like you in High Tower. We played each
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: other like you got it High Tower. I was like, Oh,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: he's like, you played it the way you're supposed to play.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I'm like, mister Spikes, bro, you took heads. You took
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: heads in your career. I kind of just I was
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: like a gnat on the football field. You were an
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: absolute bowling ball. Different different world. But he gave some love. Man,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: that was awesome.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Brandon Spikes, he was a dog bro and he was
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: so personable. Got hooked up with him. Man, you got
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: to come on bus with the boys one day. He's like,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: much respect to what y'all do? I love to come
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: on the bus and stories I've heard about Brandon Spike's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: just seeing it was just kind of a different I
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: didn't know what to expect meeting him. I'm thinking, this
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: alpha dude. But he was incredible to be around, and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: he was a stud. He was about it when he
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: came on the Old cast doing the interviews, getting excited
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: about things. Yeah, it's like he could have stayed there
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: with us the entire time, talking about the game and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: everything else. But yeah, he's a dog man. I was
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: trying to bring up the Luke Combe story that we'd heard.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if his brain was quite there remembering
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: it all. Because he's like, that's his answer is Perfect's
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: when I kind of what he said, That's why I
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: kind of started to take souls.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when I started up put people on the ground. Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: About after he was done, we were like dapping him
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: up and going to be right before the next first break,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: and he's like he brought his forty yards.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I said, sick because I talked about how big of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: a fan I was of him, like coming out of Florida,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: and I was like, bro, I remember watching your pro
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: day like at my townhouse in college, like mad that
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: you ran a four second forty or five second forty.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: He started. He said, yeah, people didn't know I couldn't
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: run very well. He's like that that was day I
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: was gonna get exposed.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he said he was running and while he's raised
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: at i'moon very fast, there goes five million.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Well he was.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: He was awesome, absolutely awesome. Let's get do it. Let's
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: get do a couple points. We have to get into
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: January sixth, Will Compton's favorite holiday. We are doing so.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: If those of you that don't know that are watching
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: the show right now, Jared and I made a bet
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: earlier this year hey, you get a six pack by
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: jan one. I will give you five thousand dollars if
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: you do not. I need you to do twenty minutes
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: stand up. All right, he shakes my hand. He's very
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: nervous about it. Allegedly turns out he played chess on
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: my ass because he's now getting out of comedy for
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: whatever reason. So January sixth, at Zani's in Nashville, Tennessee,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: seven pm. All right, we are going to do a
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: a show for Jared Beeman.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: One night only.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Jared Beaman is going to do a full stand up show.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I'll be up there. I'm assuming you're gonna come up
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: for a little bit too. I might say hello, Yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: come might say hello. We'll get a couple, we'll be
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: a couple of guests there. This is not a Bustle
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: with the Boys live show. What this is a Jared
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Beaman stand up show, one night only, seven pm, Zany's,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: January sixth, Dude, let's let's let's let's have a full
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: house for Jared. If you're wonder a but the money
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: you guys are was it? Nashville dot Zanies dot com.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: That's where you can get your tickets all tickets sold,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: We're gonna donate. We're not Bust with the Boys is
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: not taking a dollar on this entire thing. We're donating
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: everything to charity. Get plus that run plus to that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: So yeah, Nashville dot Zanys dot com, you can get
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: your tickets there. We're looking forward to seeing everybody, special
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: guests coming in. We'll all come up for a little bit.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about all this stuff. We'll have a little
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: back and forth. It'll be a great time. But it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: really about Jared Beaman. That's what it's all about at
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: the end of the day.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Man, I think he's gonna crush man.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I think he will too Russia, and he's gonna be
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: so nervous before. But I'm hoping we can get enough
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: like comedians that have been in the game for a
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: long time to where when he comes off and he's
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: like I sounded stupid. There's a couple communis they're like, bro,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: you got it, because I believe he does.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been doing it for a while.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Jeremy Klump, He's gonna be the one getting all these
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: comedians in for us. So that'll be nice, man, that'll
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: be a good deal.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, on the notice charity as well for the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Dad's Bust with the Boys partnering up with Vanderbilt Children's Hospital,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: where ten percent of merch sales from now until tomorrow
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: night go to Vandy's Children's Hospital. We're purchasing toys next
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: week and dropping them off at the hospital next week.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: But if you go to BWTV dot com, every item
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: that you purchased, ten percent of those merch sales will
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: be going to the children's the Vanderbilt Children's Hospital, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: we are matching every dollar that we raise. So again,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: BWTV dot com, they go buy some merch and help
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: us raise money.
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: Carol on BWTB dot com if you want to donate.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: That way, okay, boom So two things BDWTV dot com
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: doing it to the Children's Hospital and Nashville dot Zany's
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: dot com to get tickets to watch Jared Beeman's first
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: stand up And I think, are we doing a special
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: for him? We are gonna make it a specially. We're
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: gonna make it a special. It's gonna be a special. Also,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: we'll make Jared do a meet and greenble. We'll have
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: a bunch of merch there for all the boys. We'll
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: make it fun, exciting. We're gonna give away a bunch
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: of stuff. It'll be fun. You guys will really enjoy it, ma'am.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: What else?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I saw a question on the intro World Cup in USA?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Are we going to a game group? D?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I mean why not? Got to When is the World Cup?
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: It's like all summer right yea, oh boys, that's so
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: far away. We need to start talk about the Olympics.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Were start Winter Olympics is coming up, and you guys
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: remember the four Nations tournament?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: We did?
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: We We got after Canada's asked. Canada disrespected our ass.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: So this needs to be If the world is what
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the world claims to be, it'll be America versus up
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: for the golden medal and we're whooping that ass. And
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: where Milan? We're going to Milan, Milan, Italy.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Jet Yeah, big jet germ.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: You'll need a big one to go there, and big
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: jet germ to get Milan, all right? That or I
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: hope Southwest goes to Milan because I'm going I gotta
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: get out there. Watch it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You're going to go out there?
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Fifty stars, thirteen bars brother to how patriotic are you? Yeah?
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: If we I think given schedule, Given the schedule, if
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: we're able to go out there, I'm gonna go out there.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Got to, right, Yeah, I have to.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I'll watch it from the TV.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I know you will.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I'll be kicking it at the house in February sixth
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: through twenty second. We got Super Bowl weekend.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, then I will not be going. I'll be rooting
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: for you boys though, huh. I'll be rooting for all
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: you boys out there already fifty yeah, I'm already out
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: fifty stars thirteen bars from my TV. I will not
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: be running. I'll be on that couch. All right, boys,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: let's do a quick break for this thing right here,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: and then we're gonna get into that at oseron.
• 24:58
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• 26:33
  Speaker 4: episode with Ed ozeron Coach O. Coach O, this is phenomenal, phenomenal.
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  Speaker 4: Subscribe We're on all right, Coach Anything you saying now
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: is being recorded. Obviously, nothing's gonna change the minute you
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: walked into the shop, man, because you all the way through,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: you walked in on the bus before us. A bunch
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: of our guys like, fucking Coach O. Man, what a legend,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: what a guy. And it's like it's an absolonal to
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: give Coach O a ride up a bus. Come run
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: the bus. Incredible, incredible stuff. Man, You've been all over
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: the coaching world, and he'd been around so many great players,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: coached with so many great coaches, had great coaches under
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: you as well. But l Rose, Louisiana, we talk like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: what's a population, what's it like growing up there? Because
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: when I was at Michigan, I had a teammate of
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: mine from Baton Rouge Louisiana's name was Drew Dillio. Wind
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: up dating his sister. So I would go down to
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Baton Rouge and her grandparents were like the creole had
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: to talking where I'm just sitting there from Arizona, like
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: just smiling and nodding while they're kind of going through everything.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Is that was taking place in Larro's.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Hey did the same thing. Man. I think the population
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: grew up the six thousand.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, so we're getting bigger.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Hey, we're living to buy you. You know when they
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: come to to buy you, right, I do not run
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: right by you house. But actually my grandparents didn't speak English,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and my grandparents one hundred and fished off the land,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and my mother moved from the camp in the swamp
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to my sisters, her sister's home to go to high school.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: So it was a great, great experience. There's a good,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: great picture right there. They I live right on the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: corner right there, there's the Intercosal Canal and the bayer Lafouche,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and I live not not in that big house, that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: small house right on the.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Side that is absolutely wild, like is it? It was
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: like creole like a real thing down there, and Laruez
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: like who when people come from out of town, they
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: got to be so confused about how people are communicating.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: We'll all speak Cajun French. Yeah. And the thing about it,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I thought, on you want to speak French and I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: took it in college. We got a little slang about
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: all say we don't know what, we're gonna make it up.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, wells on they say, yeah, no, no, I
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: feel I.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Feel you with that, and you got you guys just
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: get confusedly, Hey, fuck it, I'm gonna make up my
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: own words, right.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: You gotta imagine too.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: That's that's my five year old, that's my daughter. Know
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: what's going on? You gonna make something? But hell yeah, honey,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: let's go.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: You gotta imagine to coach O how he's been a
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: hell of a coach. He's at the resume everything else.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: But some of his first interviews, like the ad whoever's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: sitting with gott to be listening to him, be like, yeah,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you sure you want to?
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I know you can't what he says, guy knows ball.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: If you want to be your position coach, if you
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: like him, go ahead.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you get your started coaching?
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: You know, my father was kind of like my my
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: my coach when I was young and idolized him. Right,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: But there are two things I can do. I can
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: shovel shrump. I can coach football. I guess what the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: choice of coaching football was very easy. But you know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: as soon as I want to trial for pro football,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: in fact, I can't try for the Memphis Show Bulls.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: You got probably too young to remember the Memphis Shore
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Bulls the USFL Football League. And I drove home. My
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: dad said, what are you gonna do? So I started coaching.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: The next day I went to my college coach. He goes,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I had a kind of coach, Babay, that's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: my name. Baby, What you gonna do? You don't start coaching?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: He goes, where here, Baby, I don't have a job,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I said, coach, I don't leave no money. Tomorrow morning,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: eight o'clock can be the staff meet Bay. You you
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: suw okay? He said, okay, you can come. But here's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the deal. He says, you cannot eat in the cafeteria
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and you cannot live in the dormitory. You're not on
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: scholarship anymore. I said, coach, that's fine. I took my
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: pickup truck, I stole a cot out of the dormitory
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and I moved in the visitor's dressing room. Man, I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: ain't the stadium, yo, what yo? Look, I had a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: bunch of showers, a bunch of lockers. Hell is the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: best I ever lived. Man, I love it. Next day,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: seven thirty staff meet, I was said, never my pen,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: here we go. I never looked back.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: When you're going back and getting that that as your
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: first job, Like, how are you kind of carving your
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: way into you know, finding respect, finding your niche in
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the coaching world, to kind of like earn your keep
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to stay on the staff, and then for them to
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: turn it into we got to get him.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: A job exactly. You know, the first day we went
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: out to practice, they gave me the defensive ends where
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I used to coach the defensive and they gave me
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: them what ten minutes individual And I got pretty pissed
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: at him, so I said, effort, We're gonna have an
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: attitude adjustment period. And I just started banging a bang bang.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody everybody on the field was like, what the world
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: is going on over there? Services that I made my mork.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Physicality?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah right?
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: And what was your where? Where was the next stop?
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: After that?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I went from Northwestern State uh huh, to Magnee State,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: to Arkansas, to Miami and really Arkansas. Miami was my
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: big bricks, especially when I went to Miami.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And Arkansas too. You were a shrint coach.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a strength coach. I was in the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: weight room. Check this out. I made twenty five dollars
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: every two weeks. Let me let me tell you I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: got that. You guys loved the story. So I was
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: down in the summer shoveling a sharp from the sharp shot.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I knew how to do, making making fast money.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: And I get a call. Now I'm on the bottom
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: of the boat. Now, babe, you got a call from
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Arkansas and back thenning those cell phone with it one thing.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So I get up there. I have my shovel in
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: my hand, my white boots, everything. This guy, Brad Scott
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: was at the Universal Arkansas. He goes, hey, man, I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: got a job in a strict coaching room at the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: University Arkansas. You want it? I said, wait a minute.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I took my shovel whoo threw it in the body.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I said, hell, yeah, what in the hell is Arkansas?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, twenty five dollars every two weeks of living
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the Dover Tour and I absolutely loved it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Really yes.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: And then after that you go to Miami and you
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: end up did you end up? You cross paths with
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: the Rock? Correct the way? That r Johnson?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: That's right?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Tell me give me a look into because we all
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: see the star he is now rastaw this morning. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: woke up at you know, five point forty five. He's
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: got a post out an hour and a half before
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: getting up. Get my card on my at this time
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: of my bitch is always on top of all of us.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: But what was he like in college?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Great guy? First of all, his nickname was Dewey. We
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: didn't know anything about the Rock Dwayne Johnson. He was
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the nicest. Now, back then University of Miami players would
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: not call nice. Okay, got it. I was coaching Sap
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and all those guys. But he was the most well
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: mannered young man that we coached. Now, he wasn't as
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: talented as Sap in those guys, but he's a very
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: very tough football player. Great gut to coach.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, did he do you think he did he have
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: a chance to make it in the league? You think,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I know he tried for a little bit.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, he didn't have the movement
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: skills that most guys had. But I remember one day
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: he had a bad practice and his uncle was a wrestler, right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and Bob cor Medos recruiter, and we got off the field.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I said, go dog a doing You need to go
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: be a Dirk wrestler like your uncle. Later on in life,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I saw you in the wrestle, I said, dam he
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: took good advice.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: So you got to coach Ray Lewis too.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know Ray Ray was. In fact, what
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: happened is Ray came in June and I remember Tommy
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Tumboville told us, now he was a little hurt ninety
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: pounds wrestler, this is going to be the best linebacker
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: ever in un history. And he durn sure it was. Yes,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: he was man coach the d line, but domic tomic coach.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Was you also cross paths with Mike Sullivan because I think, yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Mike was my assistant offense line coach at the Titans
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: for nine years. Great guy, one of what three white
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: dudes on the University of Miami. Why you got to
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: be a tough SB right to be? Hadn't be a
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Caucasian on.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: That quad, that's right. And he was he was nasty man,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: was he really? But a good guy off the field
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: is nasty, you know, Coach Johnson, he was sharp man.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: He would only let you recruit left tackles and centers. Really, no, huh.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: You're not playing right tackle in high school, you know that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: And you're not the best athletes on the field. You
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: played in defense, right, And he'd take the best defensive
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: lineman he could the rest he moved over the office.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: You want a smart center, athletic left tackle, all the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: rest of defensive.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Line figure it out after that. Yeah, yeah, defensive mean
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: and then you have a little mental edge too on
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: the out side of the offensive line.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: That always like coach in a personality like Warren.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Sapp well, love Warren, right, but look you got a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: step in the room, that Warren. And we still talk
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: about it. This Zale, right, Warren thought, now he will
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: argue with today. Back then he thought there was one
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: guy on campus at the universal of Maamitic whippers. Ass me,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: now one I can whipping or not, probably not, but
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: at least he thought I could. Yeah, but remember he
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: came to us as a tight end. He was two
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven pounds. He red shirted and played
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: tight end the whole red shirt year. Then we had
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to recruit him to play defensive line. But one thing
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: about Warren, Now, when he got off on that football,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: he was He ran a four to six five forty
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: at two seventy five when he got off on that
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: football here like a fucking cobra. Man, like a snake.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: He was so fast. That guy was the fastest defensive
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: lineman of evercle and nasty with that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: When he's playing tight end, red shirting at tight end
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: and you have to recruit him to play DEFENSEI liven
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: where those conversations, like you bring him in there, Hey,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: these are facilities. Is the room you're be looking at?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Well, look, d line would be meeting. He walked out
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the tight ending room. Hey, war I got a little
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: pool boy for you coming here. Man. Me and Bob
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Cormello was we had food for him every day. Man.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: We recruited this ship out of them. But then then
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: we got him in the room. Man, we got after
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: his ass and he loved it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: And how quickly from him going down from tight end
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: the defense line, We're like, okay, yeah, he's immediately.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so after Miami, where was the next stop you?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: After Miami? I got up and you can imagine that. Okay,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven, full time, twenty full time living in Miami.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I'm having fun. Yeah. I two time national TAN coaching
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: warsapp living on brinckle Key. Yeah, doing it all right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Off the field, annexed were a little no wow. Right,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: So I had to take a year off. So I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: took a year off of coaching. And that wasn't but
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that wasn't by my choice. It was it was not
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: of recommended Abody University.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: You go to some of the security parts. Coach O
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: is also in there with the boys. What the hell
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: is going on?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Wow? Well we gotta have the buzz back there. Had
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: a good time. But anyway, so I took a year
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: off and ah, I had to volunteer tiny Nickels State
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and Tivodaal Louisiana and now worked my way back up.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: To Syracuse in the USC or the USC.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, say, Paul Pascalonia was really good to brought me
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: back into big time coaching. Then I went to the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: us C. There's two schools I always went to coach
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: at I want to be the head coach at l
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: shoot the head coach at USC. And then when I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: went to the USC, man, God, what a place. I
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: love the.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Place there in the heyday.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: This is when you know Reggie Bush is dating the celebrities.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matthews, Matthews is in there.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Kyle Matthews in there. You had some crazy squads, and
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I know there's been like glory of co Joe. But
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: one thing you were incredible at was recruiting. And you
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: have a story about like we coach getting fired and
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: you're still on the recruiting trail and all that. But
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: what about USC when you got that call, Like, was it, hey,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I'm on my way immediately, I'm coming.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was at Syracuse and they wanted me to
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: stay there. I want to come, I want to go.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I always wanted to be at UC. And what a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: what a place, man? But you know what, you know,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I was with Paul Hacket. We were getting fired, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: back then my wife goes shield, I guess, I guess
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: we're leaving. I said, no, this place is too strong.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: We will stay. And I went out recruiting for two weeks.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't know who the coach was. Gonna be And
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you guys heard the story. It was a Saturday night,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: ten thirty. I'm sitting there watching Long Beach, Polly and
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Low and the play, and a guy named Pete Carroll
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: comes up to me. Got my USC stuff on thirty
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: eleven'clock Saturday. He goes, Pete Carrol, Yeah, he goes, what
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: are you doing? I said, I'm recruiting. He goes for who?
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I said, for us? He goes, din't you all get fired?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Two weeks ago? He goes, they told me if I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to stay on the gold recruit says you've been
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a recruited for two weeks? Said hell yeah. He goes,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you know these players over there? Yeah, man, you all right?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Dornell being Herschel Herschel dinner. You think they can play
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: at the USA? I said, why are you asking me that?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: He goes, uh, you know, Pete Peter was out of
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: that look about him. You know. He go, well, they
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: named me the head coach at the University Soun of
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: California Monday afternoon at two thirty. The first thing I
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: told him, I said, coach, give me a number. He
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: looked at me like, who's this guy? I said, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: got the number one player in the nation. Sean Cody,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat this school. At seven o'clock on Monday morning.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you, coach. You're gonna be the first
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: one to talk to them. He said, really it he's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that good, he said, yeah, he goes, don't give nobody
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: my number, don't don't. I don't know where, but seven
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: o'clock that morning, I was there at the high school. Now,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Show's daddy would let me in the house. He's a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: big irishman, Okay, I know. He started to disappointable boy
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: to take the ball. We'll talk about that later. And
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: he said, coach, you ain't you ain't recruit my son.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: He going know to day, you know. I told him,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna recruit your son. He's gonna come
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to you. See, I'm a coach for anyway. So we
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: went down there, went to the high school coach, uh
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: doctor Sean. He says, hey, Eddie, h can you beat
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: at my press confine at two thirty? I said, well sure,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: So I went down and look, I've been on the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: road for two weeks.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Right in recruiting for recruiting for somebody that you don't
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: know your coaches. You're going to kids.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You guy, you go to the US.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: He who's the coach that we don't know?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: We need you, we don't know. You don't get part
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: of the Yeah, they got you know. And then I
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: ran in a couple of coaches that were kind of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: derogatory on the road. You know what I'm saying. I'll
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: tell you I'll be back for you later. That's all
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I do. Like Schwartzman, you know. Anyway, so they have
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the press conference. Now, Coach Carrol wasn't the picking the
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: litter right, Yeah, I mean retread and all that stuff.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: So he goes, he said, some little guy to know
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: who he was. We got her looking on. Hey, you've
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: got a staff meeting right after this. So I'll go
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: up there. And man, my seat was right near coach
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the head coach. I was right there. It was taken.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I've seen some people on that damn meet and I
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: ain't seen in two years. All they're dressed up on
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: the job. Mark chair was wait in the back. Coach goes, look, guys,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I know. It's a great coach in here.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I ain't keeping nobody. I wanna start fresh. I'm sitting
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: back there going you ship and he said, all except you, Eddie,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Let's get to work. Let's coach Carol Man. I went
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: from right down right there, and two weeks we went together, man,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and he was a mentor to me. What a great man,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: what a great heduddy.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Was about to burn you after the whole recruiting.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's it, man, that's how he does it.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: And he wanted to celebrate we had a great, great
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: career together.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Man. We had a Kyle and Clay Matthews on here
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: and they're talking about these team meetings that took place,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: coaches taking clothes off, shooting basketball is getting wild. Like
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I already know you're one of those coaches. I want
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: to hear from your vantage point what the thought process
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: is with p cars like fellas. Here's how we're gonna
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: get the boys rolled up today, Coach oh get naked
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: after because I know it was. It was like a
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: nuts back then, right They kind of alluded to it
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'll be careful, I won't say this.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm really develop them up about it, so I don't
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: mind thinking works want to go. But anyway, you know,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: coach Coach was a master. He's a master motivator man.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And we had this this deal that Kennedy Polo was
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: our Special Teams coach, and he thought, was this thing.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: We going there and we.
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: Take off our shirts and get a little boards rolled
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: up and all and it was like s the Special
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: Team Wold the Wild everybody nuts man and it was wild.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: So he'd have meat do that. So that was my
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: my partner. He come any day now, Headie wild busterday. Okay, coach,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you got it, you know. I get him there and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: challenge the guys, you know. And back then I was
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: kind of board up a little bit. It was good.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: It was fun, you know. Anyway, but one day, okay,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: one day he goes, Eddie, come here. Yes, their coach,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: we gotta do Steve wild Bust today. He said, look,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: now here's what's gonna happen. I want you to go
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: in there and I want you to tell him it's
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: not good enough and get pissed at him. And because
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: they listen to me, they were good. And the he said,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I want you to walk out the door.
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: I'm walking out of the app the door, and when
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: I come back, your ass better be ready, sir, your sir,
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: you're sort they're like, God.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: What's up with coach today? Man? He said to Edie. Now, look,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not big into I don't know. I didn't know.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I heard a suit dog, but I never met suit
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: dog and wrapping, you know, movie stars. Pete had him
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: all coming around, you know. Yeah, I was just interested
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: getting sacked, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: walk out the door. He said, there's somebody gonna take
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: your place, Eddie, don't tell him anything, let him come in.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: So I walk out the door. It's freaking Snoop Dog.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: So instead of me going back in, Snoop DOGG goes
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: back in. The team went nuts. Man. They absolutely loved him.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Then he came out the practice. He was hitting the
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: bags with us, Man, he was throwing passes. But that's
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: what Coach Carroll's way of getting to the players and
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: getting us all together. He was a mastermind. Man.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do you still follow Coach Carroll and his club
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: right now?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Love him? I watched the Raiders the other night, Yeah, I
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: love him.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: In your opinion as a head coach watching a coach
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: in the NFL that you used to coach with, what's
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: going on in the Raiders organization right now? That needs
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: to be switched out.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: YO. First of all, you know we were I think
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: we're two and six and at the USCA and then
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: we turn it around went six and six all for
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: a season. Wasn't the season? And everybody else saw it's
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: gonna take him a little while to get his people
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: in there and get his system, especially in the NFL.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Look what he did in Seattle. The guys wanted to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: man and he is going to win. They just got
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to be patient, as you guys know, there's not a
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: lot of patience in football to the right.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think, like to you you talk
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: about coach Pete Carroll, like he's known for like connecting,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: connecting with people, connecting with culture. What are other things
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you feel like you got to learn from him as
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: a head coach before you became a head coach. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: also you got to even though you're younger and in
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: your twenties, you were around Jimmy Johnson. It's a cat
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: that's one at all levels. On a boat now down
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: in Florida. People love to kind of seek him out
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: for what he understands because he connects with so many
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: personalities as well.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Jimmy coach Johnson. Now, I was a
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: g I learned from Coach Johnson. I used to on
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Thursday night. He used to talk to the team bomb
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: so I used to sneak in. He didn't know I
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: was there. I sneak in and listen. The guy was phenomenal.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: He's a psychiatrist. The players loved him. The biggest, battest
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: player on the team feared him. I give you a jump.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: You see how his hair is all. Yeah, Coach Johnson
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: will go joggle on campus every day. You know, man,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: we all was with his shirt off. No, I got
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: ridicue for jogging with my shirt off at l s U. Well,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Jimmy could, so I couldn't do right. Yeah, I look
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a lot better with But look, we lived some shotgun officers,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: So coaches come back. Now, he put that hairspray in there.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: He'd have that hairspray and he'd have it all right.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: But he'd be coming down the shotgun hall and you
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: coming this way meeting him with Coach Johnson. If he's smiling,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you keep on walking.
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: Let's go.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Man, he has that frown on his face. You take
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the first door you can and go hide till he passed.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I mean he just had that control over you. Man.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: He Jimmy knew how to push buttons. And I also
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: learned from Coach Johnson besides coaching football is how to recruit,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: how to take special teams guys. I mean take safeties,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: moving the linebackers, the linebackers, moving the defensive end, defensive end,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the defensive tackle. He wanted speed, He wanted to speed.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing here he taught me, He said that
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: you got to have a smart quarterback. Everything that I've
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: done from USC and the l s U was marked
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: off the his blueprint and Coach Carroll's.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: What what are the things you look for when you're
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: finding those hybrid types are going from like safety to
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: backer or backer to d N or d N the
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: d tackle. Obviously it's like body genetics and everything else,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: But are there like philosophies in your mind to where
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: you're like, this is how we're gonna be able to
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: make him, you know, get a little bit bigger, move
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: to this position.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing that I needed to do was get
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: him in camp and have them through mo drills and
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: not listening to anybody else. Get the height, the waight
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: to speed. Jilly stretching all that stuff, flexibility and then
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: to see their character love football. Now we had some
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: camps though, this is this is what the baby's in
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: camp now? We got after times. Yeah, we want We
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: couldn't have path then and we didn't even have help us.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: We went full speed. Man, that broken over good, no matter.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: We want to find out how tough they were and
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: how competitive they were and when it got tough, where
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: they at. You you know, to play at usc to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: play at Miami, to plant us you you got to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: be up there, man, And it does It's not all
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: all talent. It's about heart, about grit. You know, you
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: go to Alabama that that that that guy across from you,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: he didn't want to talk about math one hundred, big boy.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: You want his way there. You hit in his way
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: to the NFL, and that's all he wants to prove
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: that day. So you're going to compete at the highest
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: level in some very intense environments. So you want guys
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: that can do that.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who's a cat that you converted that was against
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: converting to a different position and is obviously like say,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: worked out in the NFL or you're like you're pumped
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: at Fortunately you got him around and them taking that
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: advice was.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Probably the biggest one tied end defensive line. But a
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: guy you're very familiar with, Clay Matthews. We recruited him
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: as a walk on. Now we knew his dad. We
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: were great friends with the family and his brother, your
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: older brother, Kyle was with us, and Kyle was a safety.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: But Clay came in there. And I'm not sure that
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Clay weighed about two hundred and twenty pounds, maybe two
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen, and we recruited Clay to come as
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: a walk on to the USC. I went to Ole
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Miss and Coach Carroll called me, goes heady. You know
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that Matthews boy, and he's about two fifty right now.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a player. Clay Matthews, how
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Probably that's probably our biggest gift as a walk We got.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Some good Clay Matthews stories, like why wasn't he a
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: guy that got a scholarship?
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't tell you that much. I didn't know
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: him that well, but when he got there, he's a
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: great kid.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: I love him that How quickly was he on scholarship?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sure after I left? Yeah, because you know I
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: was there when he's a walk on. I'm sure that
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: next bring coach Carroll saw it. I wasn't there.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: And what was your last year at USC?
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: My last year? Let's see, how was at USC from
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight through two thousand and four? Was my
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: last year?
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Gotcha?
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Two thousand back to back? But but I came back.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I came back with Kiffin later on and stayed there
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: a couple of years.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what was the reason for you to party the
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: first time?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I got the head job at all?
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Miss head job at ole? Miss gotcha? Okay, so we're
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: recruiting these guys. Let's go back in time a little bit.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: We've had a lot of SEC guys on here. They've
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: never admitted it, but we all know that SEC was
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: an IL before an IL.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Hey you know that?
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, what's work?
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Way past it now?
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Just admitt it? Oh good, Hey know what let's say it. Coach,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: you know you've been not a coaching for a while,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and though, how do you adjust at nil? So well,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: it's a minor adjustment. And what do you mean? I said?
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Back then, we used to walk through the back door
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: to cash. Now we just got to walk through the
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: front door a joke.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, time joke, and that's a joke. If we're still
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: playing in the lanes of jokes. I heard there was
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: some like unwritten rules in the SEC, like if the
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: kid is in Mississippi, for instance, like no other SEC
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: school like Georgia Alabama could offer more than what Mississippi
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: State are Ole miss would offer. Is there any truth
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: to that at all, because it seems like to me,
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I hate to cut you off, but like playing we
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: both played in the Big Ten. He played in the
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Bag twel for two years, in the Big Ten for
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: two years. Big Ten is like a conference that like
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: we all have our schools and then and that's kind
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: of it. The SEC is we have our schools, but
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: as soon as the school goes to play bowl games
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: or anything else, it's like, fuck you, we're the SEC.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: We don't care about you know, everybody against SEC, which
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: I kind of love how everyone kind of stays can
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: join at the hit there. So it seems like if
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: there was going to be an internal structure of how
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: to hey, we're all gonna not tell on each other,
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be some you know, unrich matter respect. Yeah,
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: there is an old miss in Mississippi State. We're gonna
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: offer him fifty k. Alabama can't come in and off
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: sixty k? Is was there any truth or validity joking
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: truth or validity to uh these unwritten rules law, you've
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: been gone a long time. Totally, we're out. The NBA's
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: are done well.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: The rules are about to be broken, unwritten rules. But
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: they were broken all the time. Yeah, let me say
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: it all depends on good the play was? How about that?
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Fair enough?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Can't tell you one great recruiting store between old Mississippi State.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Had a young man committed to me for three years, right,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden he gets a little scorely, right,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: so we can't find him? When what was that he
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: hid in back in a back room in a church
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: for four days before signing days in a church, him
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and his family in the back.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Room seeking asylum.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the good Lord, the good Lord's on that that, uh,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: that this church wanted to donate him a little bit
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: of money if he went to Mississippi State.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: That is crazy. Yeah, so where we're fighting quite a bit?
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Was it?
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: You said you had a kid offer for three years.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: So he's a freshman and you're offering him right, how
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: soon in the in the South are we offering guys?
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Because it you gotta see like these eighth graders now
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: they're kind of getting looks in A crazy concept to me,
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: but is it really do you recruit? How early are
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: you a connect?
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Keep going?
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: We gotta start getting after this guy.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Bring up a good point. When I went to Syracuse
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: when Paul Pascaloni is great Joba was early recruiting. That's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: where we learned how to do it. I brought that
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: concept to USC and I said I was the first
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: became the head coach at all miss We started offering
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: juniors and southomost and everybody's like what And I'd offer
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: like three hundred and then they go, well, he's only
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: got twenty five scholarship. I well, we had all missed.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: We may we may get one out of ten. If
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: you at Alabama, you're gonna get it. Maybe everybody you're
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: gonna offer. So we kind of brought that concept from
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: from Joe pa from Penn State to USC to my
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: dollars to the SEC. Okay, so now, but at all
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: all depends who's doing the offer. You can have some
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: assistant coach making some offers. Those are not valid. The
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: only time you have a valid offer is from the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: head coach when you're sitting with your mama and daddy
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: in his office. Okay, Now, if I offer a kid
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: in the state of Louisiana and I'm the head coach
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: at LSU, I came back off of that offer before
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: offered a kid somewhere else and we decided to go
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: other way with another player, I can back off of
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: that offer and not get as much flat. So it
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: all depends who's doing the offering. Yeah, you know what,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: you like to send out a bunch of offers. The
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: offers nowadays or not as villard as they used to
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: be about ten years ago.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So if a head coach or an assistant coach
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: is making an offer, it's almost like the psychology of
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: starting to massage that recruit and knowing that you know, yeah, well,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: he's when push comes to shove, you go a different
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: direction exactly exactly.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: You know, we used to call it, you're going out
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: fishing on your own. It's like driving the bus on
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: your own. You're responsible. Yeah, But anyway, I think guys
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: offer to get in the game to compete, you know.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I think other guys talk about hey, I got an offer.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I got an offer. Well what's the offer from? So
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: it all depends the scale of who you get the
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: offer from. But to answer your question, yes, eight do
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: get offers by head coaches nowadays. Yeah, it's crazy, but
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: they do it to get in the game.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: You get in the game because there's how many stories
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: if you heard, were I wanted to go to this
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: school but they didn't offer me until farther down the line,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: right before sunning day, and so they feel some type
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: of way like, oh, you're only offering me because this
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: school offered me.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Thanks somebody.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: You guys are for the eighth grade. It's like they've
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: wanted me forever since pub for puberty exactly right, what
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: did you what did you notice the biggest difference? Obviously Miami.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sure recruiting was relatively easier at Miami and USC
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: than opposed to Old Miss. Like what kind of road
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: roadblocks did you go into first time head coach at
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Old Miss? You're like, oh, ship, Like these guys aren't
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: just biting a chomping at the try to come here?
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Like where did you have maneuver from your recruiting at
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: that point?
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: You know you have to have a bigger pool. Yeah,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: bigger pool.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: So that's why you get into three hundred guys.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: That's why I get three hundred guys. We went to Florida.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: You know, I got dexteram cluster from Florida. You know
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I played with Dexter in Tennessee my first couple
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: of years.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, was quick, he was, he was.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Older, but he was still very elusive.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Great guy too, Yes, great guy. And uh you know
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: back then, they had U b YU internet courses. Yeah,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I should I.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Should have Brigham Young University.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had internet courses that you can take. I
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: should have invested in the deck. I put a lot
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: of a lot of boys than the b YU. Yeah. See,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: we had to. We had to go in and the
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: first thing a recruiters say, he's not gonna be eligible. Well,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you also have learning disability tests, you have internet courses.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: You have a lot of ways that I learned when
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I went out to USC in order to get help
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the young men to get eligible. You you get LD testing,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: when they get extra time, all that stuff. So we
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: brought that to ole Miss. We did a lot of
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: that stuff with ole Miss and it was all up
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and up the other Uh, you had Alabama and LSU.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. In fact, you all
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: remember Ray Kwan Davis. I do not big time defense
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: A lot love him. I went to the school when
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I was at LSU is assistant and you is a
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Merilian high school and you the people are there and
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: we helped them become eligible. Now, Alabama and the other
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: schools thought that he was gonna be a junior college player. Yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: so I helped to be eligible. What the hell them?
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Once he got eligible?
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Once he got eligible, you know, that's that's where that
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: back door loving comes. Listen, I know a Crimsons that
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: looks nice. But how about this right here?
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, stuff happened competing? I love too.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: It's like, hey, you know, we're trying to help the
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: kids get eligible. It's like we're trying to help the
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: kids get eligible so we can get these We got
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: to figure find ways to get the kids get football team.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Was there ever concern for you about these kids who
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: are eligible, like, hey, are they gonna be able to
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: pick up a playbook? Or you're like, hey, that's secondary.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: We gotta get them in the door first.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: You know, you bring up a good point but if
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: a kid is learning disabled in college, we have the
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: ability to have some learning disabled tutors to help them out. Yeah,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: and and was it a high school? They don't have them.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: So it all depends, you know. The first thing that
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I did and when I we talked about character when
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I went to the Goddess Council, guess where I looked
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: at first class attendance. You guys both played right.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, class checkers the whole thing.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: If he was but but if that guy was going
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: to school and he was trying, I'm gonna recruit him.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: But if he was late, he ain't going to school.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Ain't recruiting has ass Then the next thing, you know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: where I went to the security guard that worked in
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: the parking line, say, man, when Johnny comes to school,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: what's going on, coach? He's early, his uncle brings him.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: He's always well dressed, he got his booked in his hand, studying. Yeah,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: what happens when when Johnny comes to school, Coach, you
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: don't want no part of it. He comes to different
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: every day, come a different car, He not dressed, he
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: smelled like they've been doing stuff that he's not supposed
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: to do. He's late. Sometimes you can learn so much
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: by getting your feet on the ground and asking questions
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: of the right people.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: That's fascinating to listen to ya.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Going out and getting like everyone thinks you go talk
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: to the head coach, a position coach, a coordinator, and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: that's kind of how you make your decision. But to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: go that's that's awesome to do the nuances of the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: guidance counselor of the security guard. But that takes a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: long time. Yeah, but if you're like, if you have
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: to go through that process, it's boots on the ground.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: As a head coach and as an assistant coach. How
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: many days of the year are you on the road?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Well, first of an assistant coach, I hit twelve schools
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: a day. Twelve note you can do that. Yeah, I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: didn't do to Mississippi. I don't anyway. I don't know
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: if you get twelve school of the week that Joe
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: ell I love those guys. But you know, speaking about
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: the security guard, I knew a guy so well at
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: a major high school in Los Angeles. He would call
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: me when the other schools will come to visit the kid.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Then I'd have him go sit at the meeting and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: he right down notes, and he tell me what the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: moon of schools are talent.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: No ship out there playing security guard out there like
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: a c CIA that boy.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Hey that that security gord eate more state than it's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: not the room than anybody.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Oh that's no, that is uh, that is cool to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: hear too, Like trying to figure out the character of
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: a guy, because my head coach is Bo Polini in
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Nebraska and he this man did not play about did
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: not play about class. He's like, I'm not here to babysit.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: If you ain't gonna do it money through Friday, you
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: ain't gonna be out there on Saturday.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the mother the class thing. I was a cat
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: that will had to be. I take an online courses
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: my senior year. My freshman year of high school was awful,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: so I was like doing the full senior schedule plus
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: a full semester online. End up being eligible. And then
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: when I get to Michigan, They're like, hey, what do
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: you want to do, And I was like, I'm going
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: to the NFL, so just put me in whatever, And
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: so they put me in all the same classes that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: are like, you know, there's fifteen other football players as well,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: and quickly learned my first year, like, oh, the class
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: checkers come to every single one of these classes. This
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: is awful. And I would get six a ms every
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: other day. So eventually I learned how you got to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: take a couple of X classes outside of the perimeter
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: of what these regular football players are taking. See, you
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: give yourself a little leeway here and there, They're not
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: gonna come and just haunt you down. So we've all
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: got tricks, Coach, We've all, We've all got tricks. Oh,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: miss happens? Where to then back to usc.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Ole missed life lesson for us all. I get fired.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't do well, Coach Carrol told me, he said, ed,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: you cannot coach the team like it coached the defensive line. Look, man,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: I had three of these. I had coaches and ice doves.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I had coaches at IVS. The doctors come to me say, coach,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: it looks like a mash unit. What the hell are
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: you doing? Cried Gride. That just I just was my mentality.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: And so I get we'll get fired, and I'm going
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: home and I'll call one of my mentors, and I'm
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: naturally doing what right, raaming this and blaming that. Go hey,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Erro's wrong. The best piece of advice I got and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: coaching from a mind coach. He says, you know those
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: may or may not be true. He said, you can't
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: change that. The only person you can change is you.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: He said, now, what you going to change about you?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Big boy? God dog? None of us want to hear
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: that right now. I didn't want to hear that, Shah.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: But I spent whatever time it was looking at the
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: things that I did wrong and how can I improve
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: to get better? Watch coaches, shows, studies, people, and guess
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: was the two things I came up with. If these
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: players know how much I love them, dislike my kids,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: they'll go through a wall for you. And if we
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: can't show them that we have the knowledge to get
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: them NFL NFL right. I want to do that right.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: All conference was to get them to where they want
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: to go. We're good. And those are the two things
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I stuck with. And the third one was I will
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: not show any coach any disrespect as much as I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: can on the football field, and I will bring him
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: in and say the next day I'll calm down. I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: want to make a decision that night. God do get
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: a little while on the field and look at the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: film and they walk down the hall and say, hey, Jimmy,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: turn on play twenty four. Man, tell me about that
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: left tack. What we're gonna do, hey, coach? And here's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the you know, here's the worst thing a coach can do. Hey,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: what what the y'all? Please? You know? Hey, what's that
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: linebacker doing?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Coach?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell he's doing? Well, if
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: you don't know what the hell is he's doing, who's
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: gonna know? Here's the proper answer, Coach. I gotta get
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: his alignment better. He's supposed to be fut the foot
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: on the center. He's inside front spitting the cross. I'm
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: gonna cover that. And then, Coach, I gotta get his
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: feet right. So I'm gonna do some drills with his
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: feet today and then I'm gonna get him on a sled. Teach,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: you amount to come out of his hips and get
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: off a block. What the coach gave me a solution? Yeah?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Any accountability as well accountability?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Right, you don't never throw your players on the bus. Man.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: You guys know that if your coach does, you don't need
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: a bus. What you gonna do with them?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: Be passed.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gets tight. What's going happen when you playing on
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Hio State fall?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: The trust is kind of gone. You're like, I know
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: you don't go If you're talking to me like this
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: right now, I know you don't got my back in
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: the room.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: No doubt. And it's even more than like in the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: NFL too, because they go on these means if they
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: make decisions about rosters, and if you if a coach
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: is talking to you a certain way in front of
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: your face, you can only imagine what's taking place.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: You guys know this, okay. When a coach stands up
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: in front of men, Now, I think a coach needs
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: to be a leader of men, okay, And the only
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: way to be a leader of men is to be
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: a damn man. I'm not sure sure that goes on
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: nowadays from what I'm saying on TV. Okay, but when
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: you stand up there, you transparent. If I'm coaching y'all,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: y'all know, y'all know all about me. Man, You don't
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: know who I am, don't know where I'm coming from.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: You know I'm first in the fight with you. You know
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I recruited you. You normal be there for you. But
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna get on your ass to get
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: you better. You know, I go to the grocery store.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: You know my personal habits, you know everything. He's transparent.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: If a coach goes up there, it's a fraud to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: his players, it's ober and you guys know it. You'll
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: know true and you know who are fraud. So I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: think those qualities in the head coach have to be there.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: So after old miss, you go to USC, you go
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: back to USC.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I go to Saints.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, you go to the Saints a little NFL, try.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: The NFL for a little bit, and uh, I work
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: for Sean Pateon. Well, what a great coach man, what
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: a great offensive line. But you know what I missed college.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I missed the recruiting. I missed you know, I've always
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: been a father figures to these guys. And in this
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: NFL you got then it happened and uh and they
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: make a lot more money than you either a little
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: man on the totem pole. So long story short, I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: went back into uh college football with the Tennessee with Kiffin.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: We'll stayed there for you, and then went back to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: USC and then they fired coach after two seasons. I believe.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: And the third season I became interim head coach and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: we had a good run. We had a real good run.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Then that's when the E was on the staff. He
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: with us Chacklar.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: Obviously Lane Kiffin, he's been consuming the sports media right
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: now with the decision, how he went about the decision, everything, Like,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: give us some insight on Lane Kiffin and the kind
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: of individual he is.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: What's crazy too, is like just listen to the coaching
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: history you were at because the Tennessee stuff gets brought
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: up when all this is going down when he leaves
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss and talking about just all the stuff that
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Lank Kiffin is known for. But knowing that you're at
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Tennessee with him, you go out to USC with him.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: You've been a head coach at Ole Miss, You've been
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: a head coach at LSU.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Lane treated me with utmost respect. I was like head
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: coach number two on the staff. The reason I went
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: back with him because he and I were tight at
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: the at USC. He was a young coach now, but man,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: a great, great recruiter, a great evaluator, had a bright
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: future ahead. We stay close. I want to go work
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: with his daddy, Mont Kiffin That's the reason I went
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: to Tennessee. And then the USC job comes open. Look,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with Tennessee, but USC and we had been
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: there in Tennessee's just a little bit different. I believe
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: we would have stayed at Tennessee, we'd have won the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: SEC East, and we would have played in the championship
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: for years to come. We were doing a tremendous job there,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: tremendous job recruiting. So we go to we go to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: uh Jack to go to the USC, and man, he
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: does good the first year and the second year is
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: things kind of kind of went south a little bit.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: How they go south? Just wins and losses or we
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: were losing the locker room, Like what took place?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, we're doing good at offense, and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: that was shocking to me. But we got beat sixty
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: two to something borregaon and and that's when I knew
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: we had to go from the four to three to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: the three. And I felt like burying myself in the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: coliseum that day. But Lane asked me, what do you
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: think's wrong? Said, we gott to go three four, and
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: we went through three four. Man it worked out a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: little bit. Did he lose the locker room a little bit. Uh.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on in personal life.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Uh I just went to work and went home. But
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I know thing was starting to slide a little bit.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: And so you know, he got fired on the tour
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: back and then the next day they dad interim head coach.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: And all the things that had learned, all the things
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: that I said I was gonna do, now it was
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: time to take my little notebook out and learn, and yeah,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: do it. Now.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: How does your relationship you talking about you and Lane
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: having a great relationship. He gets fired and they're like, hey,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: now you are the head coach. Does that change any
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: bit of a dyamic? Does he feel some type of
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: way about that?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: No, he was recommended me for the job. He said,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: coach was doing doing a great job, and we had
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: won five games in a row. He said, I rect
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I think usc ough to hire. And look after that,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: he's always asked me to go with him. He's always
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: asked me to be part of his staff. And uh
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: so we have a great race.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: Did you throughout this process, did you have any conversations
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: with him about possibly being with his staff at l
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: s U.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: You know, here's what happened. He actually, is.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: There not a better personality for bats than this man?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Like here? Yeah, he had he had actually he called
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: last year. He had called. He was gonna get a
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: job and he wanted to know if I want to go.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm not ready to do that.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I'm with my boys. I got three boys coaching right
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: now and I'm still still in the processes of getting there,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: getting there, getting them going a solid foundation. But he
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: had called, he said, you know, what do you think
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: about l SH And I gave him nothing but rave
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: you know, great great reviews, and uh, it never came through.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Like you know, he never called me and say you
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: want to come. I never called him and say I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: want to go. You know, he knew I was going out.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I was planning on going back and coaching. Uh what
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: LSU been a good fit with him? Do I think so? Yes?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: But you know, as a head coach, when you're going
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: to a situation like that, you got to fill out
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the labor land and you got to do his best
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: for you. So he's got his defensive staff. He hadn't
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: called me, which is good. I wish him the bessel up.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your thoughts when him being eleven and
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: one at Old miss and making a switch to l
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: s U, knowing that you've been in both you've been
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: in both of those worlds because it's just that much
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: more of a premier job than All Miss Because again,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: it's like, you're in the business to win a national title.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: You can win one this year because you're going to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: take a you know you're going in with LSU trying
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: to like, I want to go win a national title
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: in the future. It's like, man, you can win right now.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, when you at LSU, you can play
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: with Georgia and Alabama on a consistent basis because you
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: have a photo recruiting gown. I don't know if he
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: feels like he could do that at Obis in Toby,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: but you can go there's justin Jefferson, and there's there's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: a there's Jamaar Chase, and there's myliite neighbors within two
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: hours driving this of each other and three of the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: most prolific NFL receivers. It's a fertile recruiting ground. It's
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: much more fertile than the state of Mississippi per capita LS.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: She's got more player in the NFL than anybody. So
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's the reason he.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Do the state of Louisiana to that.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well with N I L and everything like that,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: if you have enough money coming into your program. The
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: way it works now is like who's gonna pay me
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: the most money? Like the loyalty doesn't.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have a.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: Couple of outliers that are like I grew up an
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: LSU tire fan, I grew up in Alabama.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Fan.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to these schools regardless. But for the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: most part, these kids will go to the highest bidder.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, that's right. But when when when it's close,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: they gonna want to stay in Louisiana, right, that's right.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: And the recruiting still comes on, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: and the development the guys are great office of mine though. Yeah,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: what happens with Lane is that is Miny Kiffin. You
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: know he grew up on football. On game there. I've
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: never seen anybody see all twenty two. Now. You guys
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: played You played line, I played line. We looked at
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: each other, right, yeah, we didn't see the scoreboard nothing else.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: You whip my ass, I whip you over getting that
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: in a bad mood and that's it. That was that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: was our job. Fine backer, you at least stood up
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: and saw a formation. You know, I saw it. I
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: saw hies. You know. My coach told me whip his ass,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: get to the ball and get down a bad mood
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: and come back. You think I will call the time out. No,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: So you were more priviate to formations and adjustments. And
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: like the quarterback right lane sees all twenty two in
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: the field in slow motions and he's gonna get you. Now,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get He's knows what you're doing on defense
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna get You know, every offense has a weakness,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: every defense has a weakness. He knows how to get
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: you a by formations, by shifts, and he likes to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: run the football. I mean, the guy led the SEC
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: in Russian the last five years. Think about that ole
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: miss led the SEC in Russia the last five years.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: It goes to tell you who he is. Is a play
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: called yeah start dude. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder if he's gonna get it done at l S.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: It seems like he's got all the tools in the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: world to get it done.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Out there are you wanting to get back in the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: coaching game. I was seeing I don't know how valid
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: everything is, but I saw that you were in talks
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: potentially Arkansas this year. Yeah, you mentioned your boys. They're
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: in the coaching They're in the coaching world. You don't
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: know if you necessarily want to get back into it. Like,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: what does your future look like for you wanting to
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: get back into coaching now?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: I've planned. I moved out of Miami. I moved back
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: to Baton Rouge in case we do get a job.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I uh talk to athletic director at Arkansas one time.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: That was it. But I have not had a job
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: offer that would fit to what I want to do now.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: And I don't need to be a head coach. I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: could be a defensive line coach, would be a recruiting coordinator.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: But if it fits what I want to get done
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: at this part of my life, I will take it.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: If it doesn't, she was good for me, I don't
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: have to take it. Yeah, so it's still work. I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: am in bad buyout?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a nice Well isn't here a perfect world right now?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: If I said you can have any job you want,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: how you want to have it, what is the perfect
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: thing for you at this stage.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: You can't be a head coach.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I would go be a defensive line coach at a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: major program.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: What major pro we're talking about your perfect world, right?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what? A team that competes I won't
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: say a school. A team that competes for the national championship.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: A team that has the power and the recruiting base
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: to compete in the National Championship. You seize one of
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: them schools. One of them schools. Oh, I respect Alabama.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: This boy ain't never go to coach at Alabama.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Ain't gonna do it Oil till you goes. Yeah, you
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: can't draw a line in the sand.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Ben State, Oh State, Nebraska, Florida, Nebraska.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 10: You know, hey, you ain't going to Nebraska. Yeah, Nebraska.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 10: Penn State had a in the hundreds recruiting classes.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: He just really a big school with a coach that
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be intimidated by me being on the staff. Now,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I want the coach
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: to have enough gumption and know that I'm there to
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: help him and to be able to recruit a high
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: level and have the NL money and compete and win championships.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: Now, you know, Tennessee just fired their defensive coordinator.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Hey, I love Tennessee. I did. I really didn't, said,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: now coached that for one year. It's a football school.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I loved it.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Now, were you nervous when you guys were taking that
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: job going to USC knowing you were kind of like
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: one and one and out with Tennessee, knowing kind of
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: where you were sitting at potential to win the division
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: in the SEC and win a championship.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: No, because I knew the power of USC. Now. I
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: happened to be in Louisiana visiting my family when this
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: all happened, and Mike Garrett said, look like you money,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: and that was that was the deal, those three. I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: was born of porn of that deal. So I'm in
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the I'm in Louisia. Said look, man, I need you
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: to be in Los Angeles night we're taking the USC JO.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I said, great. But then I saw the beds burning
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: on campus and stuff. I thought it was pretty wild.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: It was wild on Capa that night because everybody liked Laying.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: He had a great posona bottom self, and we were
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: doing a great job recruiting.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Damn Jack tough Jack is He went into massive Tennessee
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: fan like he was massive Tennessee. We're opening up some
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: bad wounds right now.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Hey how about Rocket top man.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: I can't beat it up there in Knoxville the eight
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: sixth five.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 7: I think that what hurt the most is hearing you
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 7: say that if you and Lane hadn't left, you all
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: would have been competing for the championships.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: And we went into a dark era after that.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: But we'll have you back with open arms. I'm just
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: a call away. But look here, a part of my
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: contract is I gotta have all the chicken fried steak
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: with white gravy on cow holes right down on the river.
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  Speaker 7: Consider it done market tractually.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: You're getting done for him right now. It's already done.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: Hypel's already Yeah, he's he's listening to the entire podcast
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: The holes almost three times a week. They love me.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: Callouns is great.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Can't be with the with the awareness that you have
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: you mentioned like with the head coaches not intimidated by
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: being the staff, Like what are those things that? What
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: are those things? You'd be able to explain of the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: intimidation factor that you that you could, I guess how real?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: How real is it you going to the coaching staff
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: and a head coach being like, yeah, you know, hey,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: what was this assistant coach? Well, stepping on my toes a.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Little bit, that's eighty five percent of them goes. They
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: called me. They already proved it. But you know if
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I got you would you know that that length like
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: lame like that he want that good? Hey, this guy
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: is going to help me win. Some coaches, there are
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: some coaches that would be receptive to me being there.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: You know, hey, man, this guy is gonna help me.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: There's some coaches that don't know me. Well I think
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: I think you have to know me. And it really said, okay,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: I need this guy to help me win a championship
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: like coach Carroll did, like like other people did. But
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: there's some guys are going he is he coming here
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: and get the head job? Is he gonna? Can I
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: handle this? Stories? And I don't want to. I don't.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be that. I don't. I don't
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: want to be part of it. Yeah, unless I have to.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: You mentioned Penn State. You don't straighten me as a
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: guy that wants to go up north very much like
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: are you you drawn a line you can't run?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Out there with your shirt off all the time.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: You definitely straight me as like an SEC.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Coach Eckler does.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: But well, you bring up a good point. I was
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: at Syracuse for three years ninety five ninety sixty seven.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: It was so foreign to me. Now, Coach Paslona was
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: great to me. But when they when it snowed May first,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: this boy from the South had enough. My wife was
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: pregnant for my twin boys, and I was shoveling snow
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: to go recruiting, Oh May first, and she goes, why
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you look so pissed. I said, it's freaking snowing. Baby.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: She was the market show. It's May first. She goes,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: She goes, what were we gonna do? I said, we're
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: heading south. I don't know for this crap. And and
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Lumberholder went to Hope the USC the next year. When
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  Speaker 2: Dude, what are some of your best recruiting stories? Like,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: you're known as a recruiter. I know, I fucking know
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: that you got some.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you hear about like Jim Harball walking into people's houses,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: sleeping over those that like doing crazy shit to land
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: a recruit to show them, hey, I'm your guy. You
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: strike me as a dude that would definitely take a
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: caught in the living room.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a bunch of them. Uh chase security, UH
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: callabal Chassel is going to Florida, broke the security and
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: whatever you call that, you call it where you go,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: you know you put your stuff in all that through. Yep.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: I went right through that damn thing and chased him
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: all the way down. They came to get me and
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: they said, coach, what are you doing then? But I
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: told I want to tell him you do not go
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: to that school. I want you. He goes Coach, did
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: you just break through the security? And said, hell yeah.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: But you know, one of the biggest recruiting stories is
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. This is not crazy, but Reggie was leaning
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: to Notre Dame in Washington. Okay. I was not the
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: running back coach. I was not the initial recruiter of
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: that area, but I was the recruiting coordinator. And uh,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: I said, man, what's going on with Reggie Hes? Hevised,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: so somebody doesn't do anything, And I asked him once
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: or twice, I guess who's gonna do it. I'm gonna
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: do it. So I called Reggi's daddy and uh I said,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: hey man, what y'all doing? Not coach, what's going on?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, we got well practicing football. He go,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: I said, what you and your you and your my wife,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: come on down, bring Reggie. I'm gonna feed you some
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: good food Los Angeles. What Big Eat can tell. And
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: uh so him and Reggie and his mama came down
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: out the blue. Okay, wasn't gonna come visit. Came visit
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: that weekend, had a blast. Then we go play in
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: the Orange bowt We beat Iowa that night. Right after
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: the game, overlooking the ocean, we'll stayed in Fort Lauderdale. Man,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: we're having a blast. Calling on the cruise, A pessident
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: of the West Coast was three hours behind. And all
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, Pete goes Aednie Reggie Bush. He goes, Coach,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: I'll watch y'all play. I want to be a trojan
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. Wow. So now that's the one I got. Okay,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: let me tell you the what I didn't get. Okay,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson right, Okay, So Adrian I went down there
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: in little East Texas place. His mama ran track. I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: remember his mama at Houston. I believe it was a
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: great lady. Man call great family, and we're going there.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: I'll bring coach Carol and back then they had those
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: old kerosene lamps. Okay, now, Coach Carrol, he ain't much
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: coultury in him now, right, and uh so you can
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: smell the kerosene and she come to light it because Eddie,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: we're gonna catch on fire, said Couch. We will get Okay,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: just chill out, Coach, I got this baby. So Coach
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: is a little word about the kerosene. That night, it
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: was kind of cool. But me and Asian were good man,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: and he, uh the coach follow me. So, okay, we
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: drove thirty miles. We stop in a little country store.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: You remember the gingerbread planks she got part of the
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: remember you know, a little gingerbread plants some pink on it.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: But back then, you know, and I, oh, you can't
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: do anything right. There's Asian Peterson. I'm not about to
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: give him some cash at the store, right. So he
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: buys this little gingerbread with a coke that was his supper.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Like you shouldn't be man. So we go all the
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: way to this basketball school, no to school, they're playing
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: basketball and they walking. Everybody wanted the Asian to go
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: to Texas. So I walk in there with him at
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: my us, he stuff, mood and all that. So we
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: sat in the stadium. I said, hell, we door there.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Man he goes. You see that little point guard. I
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: gotta play him next week I come to come to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: scout him. I want to see how I'll go to him.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: You know that told me about that young man. I said, what,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: so he comes to he comes to USC, has a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: great visit. Lo was it? So I'm sitting there. Yeah, Look,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: we used to when I take him, I'd go pick
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: him up the airport, right yeah, I used to bring
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: him down the PHU y'all been there right, Uh, to
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: Malibu and all that shit. Right then I go around,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: I go around, and I go through Beverly Hill, all
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: the big Course road road, Deale Drive. I pulled up
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: the back way right back then of the USC right. Well,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: they would tell, they would tell the and I'd bring them,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: make sure the parents were with me, and they tell
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: the recruits, say, listen, when he picks you up from
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: the airport, that high rise, Okay, that you're gonna go.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: You're gonna see he's gonna show you about the big city.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: He's gonna show you about that. But look to the side,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: to the left, that's Compton. It's a very dangerous place.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: I knew that, right, So show them all the beautiful stuff,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: right man, He said, Well, they go in the dorm rooms.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: You know, hey, look at the go to the dorm rooms.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: You know they got those bars on the window. You
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: know what, there's some bars on the weather right, people
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: trying to break in. I brought him to the best
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: dorm on campus. Store them. That was out that without
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: dorm it was. That was all right. So on Sunday
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I'd go pick him up, right, and the mother had
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: to be there, had to be there. Now. Coach Carroll
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: would go surfing in the morning on Sunday. But he said, edit,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want these recruits. Come watch me. I said, Coach,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: you got and then y'all been to Manhattie. So you've
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: been to Manabie. They got the big pier right, and
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: they got all them homes right. So we live, we
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: used to live. We used to eat at the place
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: the Ohio rises right there. I know you got. I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: forgot the neighbor. So we'd bring him up to the top.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: But before we do that, I would take a walk
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: then enter the pier and I'd show him. I say,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: there's j Lo's all the all the movie stars back there.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if they lived there. You know, behind
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: that jael O's house, there's Michael Jackson. I said, look, man,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: you'd be first round draft stars, you believeing right there? Wow, man,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: that's cool. You know they'd be surfing in me December
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: and January. And then we take them up to the house,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: to the top of the restaurant and here's what they say.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: There you go right there, Santa Monica, you see abut right? Okay,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: So now we said there and to a point, Miss
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Mary would saying, Coach, I got something to tell you.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: I said, yes, man, now you'll see, as y'all know,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: a great school academic. So yeah, miss Mary, what is
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I mean? Pete would be kicking me because he knew
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: exactly what they want to tell me. Coach. These recruiters
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: they told me, you know, this was a bad place.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: It was in the hood and all I see was
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: bad things and it was dass, said, Coach, all I
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: saw is the ocean Rose RoCE State dinners. Of course,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: I said, it's Mary. The recruiters lied to you, I said,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: of course they lied to me. I said, well, they're
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: lying to you. Now, think about what they're gonna they're
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: gonna do when they get you, young man. They're really
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: gonna lie to coach you. Right, Coach, you're right, we're
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: coming to USC. Baby. That was not not Adrian, but
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: that would be like eighty percent of them. So we
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: just knew how to recruit Los Angeles.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you knew how to drive around around confident right. Yeah.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: But Adrian, Okay, Coach, I got a problem. And I
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: know he don't mind me saying this, and I'll say
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: it what utmost respect because I love him. Because my
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: dad is incarcerated in Texa Arcana. Bob Stoops has already
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: going in there to see him. And that was in
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: the spring. Now, this was later on. He said, Coach,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: you gotta go see my dad, man, and if you
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: can convince my dad to come to USC, I want
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: to come. But there's another thing I need to talk
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: to you about. So we tried to get into jail,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: but everybody will tried, they wouldn't let let them do it.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: So I said, Adrian, what is the other thing we
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: need to talk about? Migo's coach, my dad will get
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: to watch me play in Texarcana. They play Oklahoma games
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: because I'm not going to Texas. I'm going to Oklahoma.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: I said, Adrian, if you're daddy, if they showed them
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: USC games over that, would you compensate? Coach? I come
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: tomorrow if you promise me, my dad, because see every
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: one of my games. I went back to Los Angeles.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: I want to speak to the Maya. I wants to
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: speak every influential person that I could talk to, and
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: I tried to get Asian's daddy transferred from texall can
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: at to Los Angeles. Jail man, man, I busted my button.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do it, man, just there's too many red things.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: Were you ever close?
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: No, No, you can't do that.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: That is hilarious. Is that compete?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: Is that the greatest distance you've ever gone to try
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: to get a player?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: That's compete, that is one that is compete, That is that.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: Is competing, that's compete. Is there is there a recruit
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: out there that you whiffed on, that you were just
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: wrong about, that you didn't recruit, and that they've had
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: all the success in the world, my god, and that
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: you're like ship. I was the one that said, no,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: we should.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: Every great recruiter is gonna have that one too. It
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: was like so many strikeouts, more than anybody else. If
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: you recruit long enough, you better tell the story. So
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: when I was at Syracuse, what was the name of
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: the school man? It was in New Jersey, Okay, And
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: the coach was a good friend of mine, and he
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: calls me, he said, Coach, I got this defensive lineman. Man.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: His name is Tomba Holey's tea New Jersey Tack High School. Okay.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: So we go there and we bring him on a trip. Now,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: you know, at USC, you got to have a great
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: grape on average and a great test score to get
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: into school. But now there are some guys that could
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: be like five special admits that you know, providing their decent,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: you can get them into the school. Okay. So he
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: gets that. We get there and Tomba Holey man, he
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: was great, great young man, but he had he had
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: a muscle short one okay. And I don't know for
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: why Coach Carroll thought he didn't have big shoulders. He
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: was a defensive linement, right, and his shoulders were like that. No,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and uh, Eddie, I don't. I don't know
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: if we can need to go across the country to
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: get a guy like that. We got all these people
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and he doesn't have great grades. He does.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: I said, coach, are you sure? Now I know the
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: coach there. They say, this guy's a phenomenal player. He said, no, Eddie,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to pass on them. Tombley, he
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: was a dot. Yeah. Andre Johnson, how about that Miami
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Senior High School? Not a big concruit, not a big
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: time recruiter. I go down there, I bring him. We'll
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: go to Beverly Hills, Adrey. I don't know if you
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: haven't bet Andre. He just a wonderful young man. And
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: uh So I go there and I'm having a home
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: visit with him. And then outside the home visit, I
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: can see hard Rock Stadium right there. I said, I
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: got my work cut off of him. So he comes,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: he has a great visit, and he's torn between Miami.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: He's storm between Miami. So I get a call USC
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: being academic coop. But so is Miami. And I get
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: a call. Now I was down in Miami. That happened
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: to be the super Bowl right in Miami. So I
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: ain't leaving right I'm there on Friday. The Friday Saturday
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: Sunday and the dead period before Sunday, I get a
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: call from an academic uh no, a recruiting coordinator with
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: academic counselor. Hey, you know, we've been looking at the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: pecking order and uh, you know, we got a lot
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: of receivers in Los Angeles. Coach, we we don't think
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: we need Andre Johnson. You know, I told him two
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: words and the first one starts with an F. Yeah,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: I said, I tell him that, no way, man. I
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: recruited them all weekend and then the Monday he told me,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: he says, coach, just too far for me to go.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: But I went about to tell Andre Johnson he didn't
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: have a scholarship in the USC.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: So what if he if he sat there and he's like, yeah, coach,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: k I'm coming to USC. What's that next conversation look like?
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: Are you paying for the tuition?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: There'd have been a fight Monday morning in the office. Yeah,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: and out of one I'll guarante him to you that
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: Remember the player on the roster you probably would have
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: fought to get off the scholarship.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: No, I don't thought the recruiting coordinator. Do tell you.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: Sitting here listening to your stories like I could sit
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: back all day.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: So all right, So the graduate assistance we lived in
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: the dormitory at the University of Miami. Jimmy liked it
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: because we was in there and we made five hundred
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: dollars a month. We on the we ait on the
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: training table. And this is not the story, but I
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: just gotta tell you how how the University of Miami
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: was like a beach school back then, but just tough,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: hard news and we go eat uh and Miss Sarah
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: would feed all the players and all the players when
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: he was just like a big family. And man, if
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: we didn't make the spread, I no, you ain't. You
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: ain't getting No, I ain't feeding your ass because she lose.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: She better. She bettered the hurricane all the time. That's
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: how she made all the Hey man, y'all ain't making
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: that spread this week? You ain't. I see her with
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: a plate of food. No, no, I ain't feeding your ass.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: You better get going or height, missir please feed me.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be with them. It was. It was just
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: that type of competitive baptister. Well, me and Tommy Tuckleville
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: wore gradual sister together. Great guy got me down to
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: the Universal Movie. But we live in a dormitory. So
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday night we do not like travel money for
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: the gas, we get twenty bucks. Okay, Well Timmy for
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: some reason, like a boltary, he wouldn't get the twenty bucks.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: So we go get some beer and at the end
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: we go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and we get a
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: four piece. Four piece. Now that's the way I left.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: Right now, we're feeling pretty good. Obviously we had a
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: lot of two dollars for chicken and eighteen dollars for beer.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: Right, that's a great ratio.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: But we go back to we go back to the
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: uh My gallery. It's going to be the governor of Alabama,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: right and great gun and we always do he's gonna
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: be a politician, really help great coat. But we go
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: back there. We go back to the dorm and you know, Tommy,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: if we got a case of beer, I would drink
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: twenty two and Tommy would drink two. Okay, and then
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: does this is the way we were personality ready? So
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: we go there and there was the four pieces of chicken. Well,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: we both like the white meat, right, and we mostly
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: did that the whole season, twelve games, and I guarant
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: them to you. I ate the white meat twelve times.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: That was a battle for the white meat. Think about that, man,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: I know I can start laughing. And he ended up
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: being the head coach at Albans National Championship coach L
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: s U. He's a United States Center and probably gonna
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: be the governor Alabama.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: And you'll fight white fight, well fight to this day,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: still fight over the white chicken. That is hilarious, man.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what uh?
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: What what year were you did you first at the
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: L s U?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: Wasn't hitting him?
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: What year was the first year became the head coach
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: L s c u?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: The first year I became interim head coach at twenty sixteen.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: That's another story.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: Less it was it less miles story tell me I
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: would love well.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: First of all, let's let's backtrack the USC. Okay, we
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: beat I think Arizona, we go to Notre Dame and
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: we lose the note Dame. Well, Pat Hayden was a
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: you know, a Notre Dame fanatic. You know he uh
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: uh cold games for norda Dame. You know he wanted
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: to beat him and he was right. The offense was
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Brian Keller was the office ward with the Hill of Beas,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: but we lost. He was pissed. I don't remember, but
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: when I ran off that field, I took that job
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: at USC like I was gonna be the interim coach
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: for a little bit. Okay, when I left that field,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what, f that, I'm gonna be
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: the head coach from now on. And we went on
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: a tear man. We won like five games in a row,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: and the Friday before the UCLA game, he brings me
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: my wife in, shows me the contract because a twelve
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: million dollar contract. But then for four years, he tells
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: my wife to stay. We have a press conference on Tuesday.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: He's gonna hire me. Okay, my kids come, man, but
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: we lose the u c l A. Which is understand.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: We didn't play with my kids. Get on on on
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: the plane crime. My wife stays with me. He never
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: calls me on Sunday.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: About this next deal you're about to sign.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: He told me he's gonna call me something night. Off
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: me the job, full full, full, full.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: Time, twelve million dollars.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: He said, I'm I'm ninety nine percent sure I'm gonna
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: hire you. I'm gonna call you tonight. The cole never
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: came m I stayed up all night, went on a call.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Next morning, I told my wife, I said, it's a
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: plane we're going on. I gotta go take care of
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: some business. Me and him had a meet with had
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: to meet. I slammed that door and I told him,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I said, beside the day my father died, this is
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: the worst day in my life. Just drumbling. I told him,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm better than the man that you hire.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: Do a great job. I love USC and UF me
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: and probably not as nice as I'm saying that right now.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: And how long were you at USC at this point?
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: I had been to the USC from nineteen ninety eight
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: through two thousand and four, and then we went by
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: with Lane. I think it was twenty eleven, twelve thirteen.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: This was, uh, this is yeah, this is thirteen or thirteen, Okay.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: I took fourteen off of fifteen somewhere around. So I've
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: been in the USC but almost eleven years. Coach. So
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: when we have a team meeting, I said, I want
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: to tell my team by, and he said no, I said, yes,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: I'll tellble team by. It was like a funeral because
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: all the things I said I do become like their father.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: They loved me. It was my team. And I said, guy,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: you know this USC is the best place for you.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: I was still gonna pull for you, your great place.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: They gotta they got, they got a coach coming in.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: You'll respect them. Hey, we had a good drum. Noah, Noah, coach.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: We don't want to hear that. They jumped the tables
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: and they were crying. They were hugging me and shaking
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: me and why and they were looking at why just
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: like the dad would never have Man, this is our coach.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: What do you doing? And it was so I I
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: guys picking me up at the bring us to the airport,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm crying. That was my that was my family.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: I've been there. I lived in the Radison. I lived
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: in the Radison for four years. Across the street my
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: my family stayed in UH in Mandeville, Louisiana. That was
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: by myself. I'd go from the Radison to U S C.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: I love Carls Jr. Man I got I give you
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: a double meat, uh double Western. That was my favorite.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: Let's go now try to get letters rap, but.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Trying to hear that.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: That was my circle for four years. Oh my God
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: here it is right there stuffing it down. So anyway,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: so we get her a plane and this is my
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: ex wife I'm talking about now many and so, uh,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: she goes, why why are you so sad? I said,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: we got the USC job pulled us. God has a
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: better plan, you know, it better be good. We just
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: lost the USC job. Baby, It's gonna be good anyway.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: So I spent a year out of coaching. But that
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: was that was a great time in my life. Man.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: I always want to be the head coach at l
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: s U or USC, and that was a hard deal
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: for me to lead that place. So I took a
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: year for coaching. But that year for coaching, I got
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: to see my son's play football and I never watched
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: to play football. Courts a quarterback, parker receiver. We went
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: to the quarter the semi finals. It was just a
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: wonderful year. I cook for my kids. Man, it was good.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: It was really a year that I needed. And then
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: I went to LLUSU was less my house. So the
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: first year went to coach my house. The second year
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: we lose to Wisconsin and Dream based field up there
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: and and we played uh it was like someone the
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: kickoff classes so I get a call says, coach, you'll
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: lose another game. You're going to be the interim hit
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: coach at the LSU.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: They're telling you this. There's lesson of this. No, that
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: is crazy.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: This is a back where worlds cultry ship. Right, yeah,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: I'll figure that called you.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, this is a this is an
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: Illuminati of third.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Party third party yeah yeah, yeah, but it's legit. Okay.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: So so we go play Auburn. Now I'm knowing this
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: the whole time. So we play Auburn and on the
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: last play of the game, we score a touchdown, but
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: we get a penalty or the clock ran out or
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know what to yell, scream, cheer.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? So we lost the game.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody's said right now, you well I have. We lost
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: the game, and I like, Coach mil was great to me,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, this is weird. Okay, So I'll go
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: on the bus. Meet me at the such and such
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: station when you'll get off the plane. Okay, go to place.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: We stayed there atill six o'clock in the morning. They
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: gave me the blue bread. Here's what needs to be done.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: Here's how it has to be done, here's what we expect.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: And there was nothing about anybody officially from LSU there, right.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: I mean it was just like T boy and his cousin,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: you know. So do I go to work the next day.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and it says, happen to more be ready?
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: So we get a staff meeting, We sit down there.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows anything me. It was weird as hell.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: It was like yeah, and because you said it was
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: nobody officially from LSU, I mean, was that real? What
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: just happened?
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: Was there a piece of you that's like this is
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: this can't be real? Or were you like, hey, I
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: know for surely? Was there ever doubt? You're sitting at
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: a gas station until.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: Coach Joe's by sitting there like they have no fucking clue, A.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Kind of you and my heart it was real, huh.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: I kind of fell back like love coach, and there's
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: all my teammate, I my coaches. I'm like, fuck, what's
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: Anyway? So I go to my desk. Yeah, the guy
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: texted me, is gonna happen? Relax? I said, amen, is
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: this real? Go to have all of a sudden three
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon. I'm walking down. I'm walking the guy,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: the guy who's the athletic director now grabbing me by
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: the arm. Hey, you are now the head coach the
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: LSU Tigers. What let's go. I met with a D
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: and they got rid of the things I needed to
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: do on the staff and the way we went.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 4: A couple of things a D.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: That's there.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: Now he grabs you, says you're now the head coach
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: of the LSU Tigers. Right, you better hurry up, less Miles.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: What's your text to him? What's your call to him?
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: Do you say any nothing?
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: Nothing?
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: So you have you had communication with Less Miles since
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 4: this day?
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah I have. Oh yeah, okay, I talk
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: call him, Thank you, Tell him I loved them and
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: orders Yeah, we had a good relationship. He had nothing
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: to do with me. But you want to be the head.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: Coach of the USC or l s U. It's been
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: the same thing. Hold this whole entire podcast, right, So
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: now have somebody walking up to you being like you're
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: about to be the head coach.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: Balance when I took the head job at USC, I
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: kind of it's not like me a soft pedal. Yeah,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: then I knew pat end up, but I said, you know, what,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: the hell with it, I'm going for it. When they
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: told me I'm the interim head coach, you know what
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, what I'm not letting go the rope. I'm
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: gonna get this damn job. I moved in the head
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: coach's office my first team meeting, Duke Roddy says that
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: I acted like the head coach, fired guys, changed the practice,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: slipped flipped the script when we went and they were
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: like wow, and we took a whole fire man shit.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: How many games in was it when when Less got fired?
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: I think it was four four games, And so you
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: have four games in the season, and what was in
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: What was your end record as interim head coach?
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: I think we lost Alabama ten Dutton and I'll tell
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: you the least one ten nutt. We lost Alaba. Everybody
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: else will kick your ass. And it was zero zero
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: in the third quarter going out Alabama. So we were
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: played really good. We opened up the offense, We're scoring points.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: So in l. S U's mind, I was just the
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: interim but they were gonna give me a chance, legit chance,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: because the AD loved me.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: And they told you, yeah, because you said, they walked
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: you into a room, gave you the blueprint, give you
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: the expectation. So when you only have an eight game
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 4: sample size, you have no training camp. These are not
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: your recruits. No letting tell me what was their expectation
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: of you for those eight games?
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: Win when yeah, let's shoot, tigers, take get over, open
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: up the offense, score points, let's go play with some energy.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: You're just the person to do it. I did it.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: But he and Steve Ensminger, my buddy, was quarterback coach,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: and made him office of coordinator and he did a
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: tremendous job. Dave Randa was there, did a tremendous job.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so we're going in. We're doing good. Man.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: We rolling, we got we got a little we got
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: little something and we had he was kind of funny guy, Well,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: you know this plane tracker, you know, to get the
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: plane tracker. Yeah, yeah, inside my director of operations, he was, uh,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: he was checking the plane tracker right and uh. At
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: first the plane was going all over the place and
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: we start winning, start winning, and hey, plane tracker ain't
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: going nowhere to sweep, bro, keep the plane at home. Man.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: So were playing Florida.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: We're playing.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: Florida gated. And look, although being for Louisiana, I knew
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Alabama was a arrival, but I didn't know how bad
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: the Florida Gators and the Elisis divate each other. So
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: and just like Nord of the Name and and Miami
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: in the tunnel, and we fought against Notre Dame, we
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: were out of our minds. We didn't play well. We
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: lost the game. Not of excuse, but we just it
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: just when you fight before the game, you know, it's
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: just not in the right mindset. So Tommy Manful was
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: the SONT coach at the text and I'm doing a
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: great job. Comes to me, said, coach, you gotta get
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: Your whole teams fighting. I said, what, So get out there, man,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: every I mean they're fighting with Florida. I mean it's
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: at home and and those guys, you know how, they're
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: all getting vice. Man, you're just not in your right mind.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: So we go out there. We play our worst game.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: We should have beat the dog out of Flora. Bumble's
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: mistake was get down the fourth and one. Okay, we
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: win this game. They're gonna hire me in the dressing room.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 4: You know this, or you're a sing the third party,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: third party.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: The third party.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: Yboy had now become important, right yeah, So and it
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: wasn't about beating Florida.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: So we ca all the time out and run this
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: play called Pilot. And I have this wonderful player named Darius.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: Guys a man, yeah, went to Washington, right, A man
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: now tough.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: And so we pilon is. We're gonna we're gonna go
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: to the left. We're gonna suck everybody in and then
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: we're gonna hook the outside guy and Darius is going
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: to the pilot. We'll be a touchdown walk in fourth
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: and less than one. Right, but we're on the sideline.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: And I learned as a head coach after this, make
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: your assistance, tell everybody to play and which what to do.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: That didn't get done? Okay, I think responsible Darius went
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: the wrong way. Florida stops us. Oh my god, I've
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: been living in a in a hotel on campus. I
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna let go to Rope. I woke up the
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: next morning. My stomach was killing me. Man, God, I
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: was in a ball screaming yelling God, rot yo, piss man. Yo.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: My director of operations called me, said, hey, I just
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: talked to Joe athletic director. We still got a chance.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Well he was smart. He's keep me going. So we're
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: playing things. We're playing Texas A and M for Thanksgiving Day, right,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: So we meeting on Sunday. So we got a team meeting.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody's down, you know, and here comes Darius. He got
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: a hoodie over his head. He was the last one
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: to get in. I took that freaking hoodie off. I
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: grabbed him and I said, I love you. It's my fault.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't teach you good enough. Really, coach, He said, yeah,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: I should have coached you. Bet a son. I said,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what i'mnna do. I'm gonna give
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: you the ball against Texas and him and you go
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: run all over the ass. There's a pepping stuff, right yeah,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I went in there. You guys play,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: y'all get this, Hey, guys, just Thanksgiving week we fixed
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: the whip and M's ass no paths. The whole week
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: they forgot we lost the game. It went crazy. Man,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: he forgot we played the day before. Man walked through.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: No paths kept him fresh man. So we get on
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: the plane. You guys know how this. You get on
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: the plane, right, you're gonna play it in him feeling Man,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like I wanted to fight with my buddies. Man,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: I'm ready. I know it's gonna be good. So there's
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: all kind of rumors going on. Right, So you know,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: you guys have what's called a sixth sense, right, you
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: can feel stuff right now. Look, I made a tanel
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: a C T right, Okay, I don't want none of
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: you boys be too impressed back there. That's after my
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: third time taking you know, I mean, but God has
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: given me. God has given me a situational awareness factor
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: in my life that I can figure shit out, you
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we're feeling good man, We're
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: gonna go kick their ass. Right, get off the bus.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: We had an hour drive and all of a sudden,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: when we get off the bus, we had this place
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: as big resort, and I see little factions of people.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: Then my ex wife said, and I promised myself that
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: I was gonna focus on getting this head job till
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: the last fricking, fucking I wasn't gonna let go and
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: get this job. Now. We won't go let nothing get
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: me back. So we'll go to meetings. He's still the
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: same thing. Little factions of people just you can tell
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: something going on. So I go home. My ex wife,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: you know, she goes out to dinner. She goes, well,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: I guess it's all over. Uh what you mean? They
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: offered the job the Jimbo Fisher to night. I said, no,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: Joe wouldn't do that. He wouldn't do it without telling me. Well,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: I a guy on my staff that had worked with
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher. He was hiring and firing people or my
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: staff behind my back. Oh yeah, hey, you're gonna stay now.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: You ain'tna standing, I mean, and everybody was trying to
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: get a job of him. This is the day before
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: the game, and I'm like, okay, but you know what
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Coach Carroll taught me, Eddie, never letting them know they
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: got you. Don't tell them, give them follow it. So
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: the next day, remember I said, I'm gonna go for him.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: The next day when the hotel, same stuffs going. Don't
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: pet this stuff. So we go to the game. Now
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: I want you boss, remember us some coach. Okay, we
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: go to the game, we're going to and m now
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: his rocket and all that. Right we picked. I know
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: we're gonna kick the dog out of him. All right now,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: your boss, okay, your boss, we'll bet the hide ship
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: from you. Okay, he'll bet to give you the smile,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: and he won't bet to tell you what's really going
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: on through his face. But the wife can never lie. Okay.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: So Joe's wife and I anty a little Italian lady.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: We go to SCC deal. She loved me. I'd have
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: a laugh and we'd joke, and she wanted me to
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: be the head go and so the joke. So I
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: go on right right before the game. You know, everybody's
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: fire up, joke and shake my hand. Nothing here we go, man,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: and I look at any his wife and here's the look.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: Look I what, oh shit, I'm a trouble man. I
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: mean you tell that's over. You don't mean something going on.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: So we win the tass, and we usually win the tass.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: We played defense, right uh huh, I said, as Mega,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: take the ball and give it the geist. But I
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: told him wasnly.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't give the ball.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the ball, boar. We had six
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five yards of total offense on those guys.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: We put an ass flipping on them. A guys suppost
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: to have so many yorks.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 4: So anyway, Darius guys had two hundred and eighty five
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: yards of rushing in four touchdowns, a seal game rushing
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: record at lsu O.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: Filling in for an injured Leonard Fournette.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: Hey, no paths baby, right exactly. So boys are bouncing around.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: And look I gave him the ball and look fifty nine. Anyway,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: So in the locker room, man, everybody's happening all right.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: So we'll get on the plane and you know when
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: the alumni, you guys are doing the alumni hit in
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: the back like that, you gotta be covering with they're
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: coming right down to you. I mean that's when he
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: coming that right. So look, Derek, my director of operations,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: right is sitting in front of me, and this guy
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: goes up behind it going, hey, man, too bad, you
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: made a good run at it.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: So I look in the front and everybody's happy. And
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: this guy that had a lot of information from me
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: through the back door was like the uh, what's wrong?
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: Something wrong? Anyway, next day we meet, we got guys,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: we got we've been working on this ship binders. I mean,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: we got our whole program ready to go. And we
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: get a call. We meet with Joe leaving. This is
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: my interview, right, So Derek and Austin's coming with me,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: and we got on walking. We walked right, Derek Tiger's stand.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: We gotta call. Hey, Joe's about the offer?
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: Yaller job man?
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: What we're walking there with the peposte. I'm sitting here,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: Derek sitting here, Uh, Austin sitting there. Joe's gonna sit there.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: We have a binders man. We all said. Joe comes
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: in and he's looking like what is going on? He says, there, Joe,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: here's He pushes the minders aside. Now this is this
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: is like eight three months of work, you know, by
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: everybody in the office. Push them aside. Guys, look, gotta
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: be honest with yo. I'm talking to Tom Herbert Knight.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: I said, well, last night two nights ago is Jimbo
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: Fisher Tom Herbert's night to night. I'll need them more, baby,
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't gonna let go of the rope, right,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: So I kicked Derek, and also I said, you gotta
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: leave now. I pulled my chair and Joe, who I
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: love to this day, I love Yeah, I said, Jordan, Look,
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: I'm hitting him right here, right Joe. You know damn well,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: in your heart, your belly. I'm the best man for
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: the Lshie Tigers. I look forward to being the next
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: head coach at l s U. And I walked out
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: the way. Fuck what did I just do? I hit
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: him too hard? You know what I mean? I got
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: I blew it, I said. I told him, I said, coach,
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: I'm getting lin Kiffin to come with me. Joe, I'm
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: getting liank Iiffin. He's gonna leave Alabama, He's gonna come here.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: And so I started calling. I wasn't gonna let go.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: I was going back to my home. I moved out
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: of the hotel. He was over right. So I'm going home,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: my home, a mandebilt. We having Thanksgiving dinner because you
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: know we played them on Thanksgiving. Dare Now how fired
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: up you think I have to have fucking Thanksgiving dinner?
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: I mean I got the red ass man. I'm like
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: god oh man ship. So after dinner, gets who certain
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: that wants the dishes me? So I went, I went't
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be in the headcoffy down, shiels, I got a
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: file of dishes for me, going what just happened? I
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: just lost the USC job. Now I lost this job?
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: Are you shitting me? Man?
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: Discovering this ship? This not one person that that things
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 4: giving dinner had any white turkey.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Side note. You know, I just don't
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: get this stuff. I'm not a you know, I'm not
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: into the house putting stuff in the dishwasher. Okay, Now,
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to make a bad statement here, but
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: most people I've been around push the stuff in the dishwasher.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: They don't realize there's two steps you gotta take it out.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: Where where's our dishes washer? Two steps right farths out
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: of the dishwasher for a week anyway.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 4: So so you're mad as fucker. You're there scrubbing this
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 4: out of these dishes, washing the freaking cranberry sauce. Everyone
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 4: being kind of nice to you.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So so I go to bed that night
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: and the ticker Tom Herban will be the next head
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: coach of the La Shoot Tigers. So my ex wife
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: comes to beat and she goes, sure, now she had premonition,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: to remember, she told me, God, I had a better
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: plan on the plane. And now she says, why are
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: you looking so sad? Just look at the TV. Tom Herman,
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be he goes, No, he won't. You're gonna
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow morning. I swear to got you told
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: me you're gonna wake up to morow morning. You can
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: be the next head coach, HeLa shoot Tiger. How much
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: of you drink?
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 4: I want you to?
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: What's up? So I'm gonna go work out.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: Can't ye can't do the two steps in the dishes,
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: but going on the next day. Just listen to his
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: wife thinking, lady, you don't know that it's on the TV.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 4: He's getting asked crazy.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I hate to say it, most of
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: my girlfriends didn't take the stuff out of this walking.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, but anyway, it must be me.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: It just must be me. Anyway, So chake this out, man,
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: throw my leg kiff and all this stuff, so you know,
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: keep off fallside the bed. I'm gonna wake up at
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: seven thirty. I'm gonna work out of Franklin. Here I
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: am where I go. All of a sudden, it's all
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: over TV. So Kiffin, you know he's with sex and
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: he gets all of school, right, I get. I get
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: a text at one thirty Tom Herman is leaning to
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: go to Texas, and I'm like, you gotta have us.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: He's up at one thirty anyway, So I get it.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. My wife start to wake up.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: Next day we met. I get a call five o'clock
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: in the morning. Is Joe Leva? Well I missed the
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: damn thing? So I call him, I said, Joe. He said, Eddie,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: how you doing great? He said, and you beat Aulis
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: you an hour? I said? Hell yeah, baby, man, I'm
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: making up now, sleeping the new numping and stuff on it.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: How do you know what? Man? How do you knowbody's
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: put underworld and going a back room. I'm going, baby,
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm going down. I'm going down. I
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: gotta I got a tie hold with a with a
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: tea top border right, and man, I'm going I'm going
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: as far as I can as I'm gonna hurt, hurt
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: twenty down there in the state playing born on to
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: buy you baby, I'm coming, baby, And all of a sudden,
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: I get the hammer about half way says they didn't
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: offer me the job. I've been screwed. Before. So I
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: called somebody. I said, they want to meet me at
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: seven thirty. Said, I don't think they're gonna tell you
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: they don't have the job. I think they don't tell
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: you got the job. So I get there and there's
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: a big tiger in front office. Right Joe's standing there. Man,
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: I come on a summers too. Wheel opened the door.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: He goes, well, you want the job or not? Man,
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: I grabbed you better road. Yeah yeah, put me down,
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: your big son of a gun right down in front
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: of the tiger. Put me down. I'm squeezing him. So
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: we go up there and he goes, I gotta tell
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: you something, coach, he goes. He goes, man, I want
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: to go to bed. Last night, he said, my stomach
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: was killing me. Man, he said, you remember when you
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: told me you hit me right down, and you said
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: you know in your heart and you belly, I'm the
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: best man, fellows you, he said. I felt, man, my
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: stomach was that I'm not I said, I put that
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: kath in Greek. Real Yeah. Way we went, man, God
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: damn the story. Man, Hey, but you know what about competing.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: I had some great people around me about competing. This
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: to the very er I wasn't gonna let that USC
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: thing happened to me again, it wouldn't. It wouldn't have
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: been that I didn't try it hard enough.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, held the rope the entire time.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: He let go the rope.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And also you and USC. It's like I could
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 4: see it, but like you and l s here, I
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 4: can't imagine you in l A doing a press conference
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 4: as opposed to Yeah, God, a.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: Better plan tigers fifteen to oh now you'll want to
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: get to the Joe Burro recruit.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, here's what hell I was gonna say, how
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 4: you get from Joey because you recurred Joe Jamar, all
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 4: of these guys we all talked about.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: Right in your first your first official year as the
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: head coach, that's when you go ten and three before
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: you go fifteen.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: And oh no, we went yeah, yeah, yeah, I think,
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: but pull that up quick, Yeah yeah, what was the right.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 4: Because I thought I saw, you know what happened in
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 4: the third year you won the next championship.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's see what I went the uh one
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: two years, I think the first year of ninety four,
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: I think this next year, what first year, well what
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: ninety four? The next year with tennant three right.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, so your first year was set okay, yeah, yeah,
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: because Gyce was sixteen, Yeah, seventeen first.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, Now were you sweat? I know you will have
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 4: the job for a year. But two and seventeen ninety
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: four at LSU, that's not okay.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: What they wanted to hang me off the bridge and
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: bat rouge. Yeah, I lost to Troy State, Alab. Yeah,
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: they will not happen the net. We had a leadership committee.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: I had a team meeting. I was told, now, yeah,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: you know this ain'tlea cut it man. If y'all don't
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: want to do it my way, leave now, go for
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: any coach, any player. And they all stayed and I
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: had a good, good group. But we went to Florida
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: and word was if we lost to Florida, I wasn't
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: gonna make the plane ride back. That's all you gotta
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: tell me, now, okay, all right, okay, which will use
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: somebody's angle let me on the plane. Yeah okay. So
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: the night before we stayed in Okallo, I thought we're
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: gonna win tomorrow night boys, good any mind, we'll fix
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: the kickie's board as we're gonna win. So you know,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: Florida has a great It was at two thirty, was
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: hot as hell. But you remember the year before we
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: had fun Mamba. I told you what, fuck yeah, I
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: didn't let players go out with all their coaches, didn't
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: let him fight, kept that cools hot and went back in.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: And that was the first time they played Tom Betty.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: Ain't no easy way out. I freaking love that song. Okay,
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: and look it's tied going into the fourth quarter. It's
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: a CBS game. Everybody, everybody in the world knows I
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: lose this game. I ain't wearing purple and gold man.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: I get out on the field and one of the
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: thirty the numbers and the whole crowd of screaming, ain't
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: no easy way out. He's thought of the gun. And
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: I looked out training Jack and I just look it.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: I said, we knew it was nut cutting time. So anyway,
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: I played that. We kicked their ass right the field
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: the extra point kicker, the field goal kicker was perfect
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: in all his career, and missed the extra point. We
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: won seventeen sixty nothing. Yeah. Yeah, I walked on that
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: I walk on that plane like a peacock. Yeah, baby,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: I made the plane. Boy, But look that was That
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: was the turning point right there. That was the turning
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: port on football team. Now I needed a quarterback. We
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: had springball. I had Jamar, I hid just I'll tell
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: you the recruiting store by that. But the quarterback is
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: the guy you gotta have. So we have spring practice
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: on TV. Remember now they don't want spring ball Animore
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: because guys are poaching each other and all that. But
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: we had on TV. You know, we didn't know nothing
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: about that. So my son Cody is playing quarterback at
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: McNee steak. He called me. He said that I saw
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: you skirmish your quarterback suck. I said, I know. He goes,
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: you better get a new quarterback.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: And he said, coach, there's a guy named Joe Burrow
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: in Ohio State that is uh transferring. You want to
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: look into them. So I walk out in the hall
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: of guy's a gritting the tape. I say, anybody know
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: a guy named Joe Burrow? And Bill Bush was on
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: my staff. Hey, coach, I was there. I was there
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: at the recruitment of Joe. He said, Coach, we get
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. We're going to college football players. I said,
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: go get Joe Burrow. No, Joe comes on a visit. Now,
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: Joe was going to Cincinnati. Luke Fickle was the head
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: coach there, recruited Joe. Gerald's girlfriend was going to Cincinnati.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: Joe's daddy coach about an hour away from there. Yeah,
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: so all the things that Joe needed, and they promised
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: him he was gonna be a star. So Joe comes
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: on to visit with his mom and daddy. Great people.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: And the first thing he tells me, say, Joe, I
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: do coach. I don't want to talk to you what hees.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 5: Coach.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: I know you're a great recruiter. All I want to
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: do is talk football and eat crawfish. I'll saying to myself, Man,
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: if I didn't need a quarterback so bad, i'd put
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: that song goes That's what I'm playing right now, so bad?
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Joe, That's all I said. So the next
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: day we have a football meeting. There's about twelves. Then
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: is daddy, Jerry Sullivan, guys that have been in the NFL.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: It took me five minutes to figure out member Jimmy
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: Johnson tell me what first thing versus smart quarterback. Joe
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: was the smartest guy in the room. Including me, included
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: all the coaches, included mama, my mama, if that ain't
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: and everybody, and that was okay with me. So we
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: went through the We went through the uh the day
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: and then we go to a restaurant. All right, Joe
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: wants to eat crawfish. Right, So we get there, my
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: on campus recruiting cornator. Cause comes up to the coach.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: They ain't got no crawfish. My good friend Charles Bagler,
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: who's dead today. He said, coach, you've got to be
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: able to take on your feet. Then on act right,
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: I said, call my friend Boodroom, tell him to coach
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: some crawfish. He always got crawfish. Tell him to bring
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: it through the kitchen, put it on the train. That
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: says the restaurant, we at and serve it to Joe.
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: I'll be damn thirty minutes when we got hot crawfish
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: for Joe. Right, Joe's eating crawfishing. Man, everybody knew this, Joe,
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: you know there it is, right, but they in the
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: car and see all the stuff.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so you know, in any good sales and
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: you guys know what this about, what you do here,
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: there's always a crack in the door right right, But
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: you got assist that crack. You gotta seize it. If
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: the crack's not down, wait, wait, they're gonna be cracking
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: the door. And man, I went up to him, and
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: here's his answer. I said, Joe, I want to talk
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: to you. He went, yes, Sir, I knew it. So
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: I took him. I said, this might have been the
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 1: most important talk I ever had it all my life.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: We're in the parking lot. Okay, the gravels and rope people.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: The dust is coming Mike Anderson's restaurant, a place we
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: always went to. And uh, I said, Joe, if you
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: tell anybody about this conversation, it never happened. So I
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: don't know what the hell you're talking about. I said, Joe,
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: I don't get you. They're gonna fire me. I get you.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: We're gonna win the national championship. That's how important you
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: are to me. Okay, there you go right there, and
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: we're in the parking you're to the left, oh yeah,
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: to the left.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 4: And so you're telling this kid, if if you don't
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 4: come here, I will not have a job. But if
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 4: you do, we were gonna win it all.
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: Now there's three quarterbacks ahead of you. I'm gonna put
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: you on the fourteen and you're gonna earn you way
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: in front of the football team. But Joe, I know
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. They're good, but they're not as good as you.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: I ain't seen that. Damn. Look, ye me, I was
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: just going on on what I heard, right, and I
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: saw in that meeting, right, you know what I mean.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: You gotta take a shot, baby, Yeah, take a shot. Hey,
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: it was that M and M got one shot man. Yeah,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: it's a song. Huh, sweat spaghetti, throw a ball over
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: the plate. You forget the work. You gotta take that,
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: right man, I can hear That's all. I may get
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: fed up. That was me out there, so I said, list,
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: I just playing lose you so by him, and now
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 4: Like, I gotta get this.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: If I don't get this, I'm dead.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: I'm dead.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 4: So what's what's his facial expression? Which is response when
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 4: you say I don't get you work, I'm getting fired.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: You could tell when you tell somebody it's like, aha,
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: moment I started looking at that. I know that. Look.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: I head home right now. I said, now you're gonna
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: come run your way, But I know you're better than them. Now, Joe.
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: By the way, I have two pretty good receivers. One's
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: name is Jamar Chase and one name is Justin Jeffson.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: You don't know about him yet, but you gotta love him, okay, coach.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: So the next day we have a recruiting meeting. You
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 1: guys been there. The Sunday's a business day to me.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: Now Sunday is you know, you're nice and nice and night.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: Then let's go Roberts. So we have a little little
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: just Joe with his parents and all of the coaches,
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: and Joe goes, well, I'm going on and I'm not
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: gonna talk to anybody till Thursday. Now you think my
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: ass is gonna wait till Thursday. No, no way, right,
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: So they leave. So we have a little vote all
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: the coaches, all the coaches, why we have fuming. Where's
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: Joe going Cincinnati? My ass is going Cincinnati. We're gonna
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 1: find a wait. Boys, Well, coach, he's not talking to
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 1: anybody with I don't want to hear that. So on
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: this trip I made good friends with his brother Dan.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: Now Dad is very talking that Joe is not. We laugh,
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: we joke and everything. So I said Derek. Call Dan.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: I'll call him on Monday morning. You guys have heard
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: the story, right, you guys have heard this so many times.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: Then where you think Joe will go? Well, coaches, he's decision, Dad,
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: shut the f up. Then nothing wrong with Cincinnati, Then
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati or L s U. Then he's gonna win the Heisman. Here,
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: he's gonna win. He could be a first round draft
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: dr we're going to that. I know, coach, I know, coach,
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: I know, but it's here. I said, bullshit, Dad, I said, Dan,
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: do you love you brother? He goes, yes, I do.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm on, come on, I said, Dan, take
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: your hand and put it down your pants. I said, squeeze, hi,
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: damn things, make sure you got to he couse, I'm squeezing.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: I'm squeezing, squeeze hard, and you got to You're gonna
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: call your brother and you're gonna time to come to
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: L s U. So he was my third party co
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: the whole week. We tell this story all the time.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: It's true story. I mean, I think you actually was
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: squeezing him, right, got a fight out, you got to right, Yeah,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: let's go, bab. So he called Joe every day. What
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: Joe knowing we're talking to damn Now. Joe says that
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: the end that wasn't the deciding factor, but at least
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: I felt good enough my ass one wait till Thursday,
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: you know, right. So the Boom had a call Joe Burrow, Yo,
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: this is all or none, right, guy, all or none right? Yo,
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: been in business deals that helped y'all get top. He
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: goes close, I won't be a tire. What here we go, man,
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: here we go and look, so we get going right.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: So Joe comes with Tommy Moffatt in the summer first day. Now,
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: I got three quarterbacks ahead of them, and these quarterbacks
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: they got in the locker room. You know how they
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: got They got these guys. Joe's an outsider. They got
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: these guys convinced that they had a guy. I knew
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: in my heart that this was not beneficial for us
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: to win the championship that he was because the top
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: of quarterback he was. So Joe gets out there were
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: running one tenth. He wins every one of them. It
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: ain't even close. After that.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: Foster Tomorrow, who yeah, we know Foster friend of the show.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Foster hosted Joe on the on his recruiter him
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: and Foster went through pasta and the whole team was rightful.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: The soap got a quarterback throw Joe that summer. I
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't there every day, but every day I was. He
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't even close. He was not gonna lose on one tenth,
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: he was not gonna lose anything. You saw the competitive desire.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: The other guys were trying, they couldn't, and before you
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: know it, he won the locker room. Before you know it,
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: the whole team was thrown together at the end and
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: there was no ammate animals, and he towards Joe. So
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: we get into two days. Right now, I'm training four
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks right now. We opened up with the University of
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: Miami in Jerry World at Dallas. So we get about
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 1: two weeks and we say, look, we gotta cut it.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: We'll get two guys. I had the coaches grade every drill, right,
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: Joe won every drill drill. But when I we told
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 1: all the coaches, no, we throw all the quarterbacks, that
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: we need to start training too, and that Joe and
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 1: Miles was going to be the first two quarterbacks. Oh
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: hell broke. One guy transferred, the next guy didn't come
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: to practice, and man it was a dark cloud. The
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: players didn't want to practice. It was bad. So the
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: next day we had to have a a player's leadership committee.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: All right, and those are all guys that I had recruited.
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: And they say, coach, you're rome. Joe's not the starting quarterback.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: He's not the best quarterback. This guy is obviously the
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: guy they believed, and he was a good quarterback. He
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: did some good thing. So I finally had to put
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: the graves down, and finally put it. I went around,
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: I looked at every one of them. I said, I
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: recruited your house, right. I said, I'm gonna treat you
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: like my son, right. I Have I done that? Yes?
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I said, you think I'd do anything a
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: little bit stern o boy to hurt you. I have
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: to hurt this football team. It's my job to make
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: the decision to show, job to play. I know Joe
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: Burrow win us to the championship. Okay, you gotta believe me.
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: You know what this said, Coachoe, you right, we think
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: they the guy better be a quarterback. But we're gonna
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: trust your coach. And they went in there and they
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: told the team and we trust coaches decisions and we're
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: gonna follow you and bam and the way we went
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: that might have been, but the meeting in the parking
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: lot and the meeting with the leadership committee and they
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: they they the ones that the leadership committee took it
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: to the team and said, hey, we're gonna back up
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: Joe and we're going and that's how it all.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: Did anything come about? When his first game he goes
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: eleven for twenty four and only throw us for one
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 2: hundred and forty.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: You know what, be honest, and he'll tell you this,
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: Joe got better. Now, Joe hadn't played it three years. Okay,
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: Joe got better, and thank god, you know, think about this.
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 1: He graduated in three years. All state basketball player, all
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: state football player, mother was a principal, daddy was a coach,
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: great character, great all that. But he had played three years.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: So he graduated three years. Thank god we had him
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 1: for two his first year. Now he got better as
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: went on, and then we went to the spread and
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: he just started. But he got better.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean he's one of the best
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: of all time. But I'm wondering if you had that
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: leadership meeting to where you're like this, the guy we're
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 2: going with everybody's against it. You have the first game
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: against Miami, he only throws one forty and surprised some
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 2: of the guys like, look.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: But you know what he audible to a player on
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: four down that helped us win the game. And then
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: you and yeah, it's kind of like, well everybody saw it.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: But later on we beat Georgia. Now Georgia was right
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: number two of the country that year, and we went
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: for four to five times and we beat the the
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: ole guy on Jeorgia. Yea, and that was Joe's major,
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: first major winner show.
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, coming out party that was.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 4: That was a ten to three year correct, yes, three years.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: Let me say somethingbody that ten and three year we're
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: playing Uh, you see if they're undefeated, they're very good.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 1: And we beat getting beat fourteen to nothing. It's eleven
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: o'clock game. We had awake. It's like and they they
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: popped playing the Tigers, right, and all of a sudden,
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: Joe throws an interception and this guy blindsizes him and
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: targets him. Okay, and Joe's in all four. I don't
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: know the guy that hit him. Look at it right there,
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: the guy spin on him. That guy right there is
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: from Yarns and spin on Joe. Okay, the team saw it.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: I said, Miles, get ready. Joe stood up. After that,
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: I ain't coming out. We commenced the kicking these boys
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: ass and joy and never lost another game in shoot
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: before that moment right there made Joe bow right now.
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: He wasn't coming out. I mean, he wasn't coming out.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: We come in the kicking there ass. That was his moment.
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: That was his moment when the team finally said, you
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: know what, here's our guy.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, here his senior day when he jogs out of
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 4: the tunnel and his last name is spelled e a
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 4: u X. What would how bad? First off? Sol like
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 4: understanding your crowd, your fan base changing like that, Like
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 4: it's it's very impressive, and it's one of those things
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 4: where like everybody's an l U fan in that moment
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 4: watching that happen. What did he talk to you about
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 4: that before?
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 4: Like or did you kind of get surprised by it?
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: He acts, Derek, Well, here's what happened. You know we're
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: going so well. I gave him the keys. Joe, he's
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 1: the leader. You tell me what y'all want, not I
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 1: wouldn't no puss nothing like that, you know what I mean?
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 1: But on little things. While I was in on the
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: side of what should do, not do? Go to the movie?
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: Not go to the movie? I let Joe design and
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 1: he went to Derek's coach. If I can put e
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 1: a u X he was on his own thoughts. That
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: goes to show you the showmanship that he has. You know,
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of great players, great coaches
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: can compartmentalize. I'm sure you guys can do that. You
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 1: can put one thing in your mind, focus said it.
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: If you have to change, go to there and come back.
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: He does. He does it with the best of them.
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 1: They went crazy. You talked about you talked about captured
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: the state of Louisiana, and I think we'd beat uh
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: Texas a.
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 4: Fifty, really beat the ship out of them fifteen and oh,
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 4: bro Eaux is such a badass move. That's so fucking badass.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: Almost as good as the cigar.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he kind of started that too, right.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: Thing?
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah? What uh do you guys still keep keep up
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 4: with each other?
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: If I texted Joey your Texas back in a minute. Yeah,
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: but you know what, I'm not gonna call those guys
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: a mess. All right, Jamaar Chase, All right, Jamar Chase
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 1: is committed to back then a couple of different commits.
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And uh, that's one of
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 1: my favorite moments right there. You know, I told him
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 1: I'm taking either on that seagull board, Prescott. Yeah, I
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 1: told my ex wife. Now, I said that right there
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: is gonna be a moment caught in time, and it
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: sure was. But anyway, Jamar Chase was committed, but at
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 1: this time he was committed to Florida. But he came
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: to camp. If daddy was there and his mama, Miss
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: de Lee was there, who I love. Okay, Mickey Joseph
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 1: was recruit. Who I love, great recruit. But the staff
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: before and Jamar is big. I can see it, but
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done it. Told Jamar he had to
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: play cornerback. Can you imagine you the mom set? No, no,
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: we ain't happened, We ain't going to shoe. So he
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: runs a slug, goal, slant and goal. I guess one
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 1: of our best players, our best recruit, almost break his ankle. Cornerback. Yeah.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: I looked at his daddy and I said, over my
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: dead body. Jamar Chase is going to Florida coause you
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: gotta get the mama. So we worked hard, making you
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 1: work hard. Anyway, we end up getting Jamar Chase. Justin Jefferson,
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: Justin Jeffson comes to camp, does the same thing. We've
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 1: got best players against best. He's a two star recruit,
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 1: right to star recruit. Yes, sir, one hundred and sixty pounds,
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: soaking wet. But both of his brothers played at LSU. Okay,
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 1: so he does a good, good job in camp, and
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: we said, wait a minute, now, this boys in the
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: state of Louisiana. See, I used to tell our guys,
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 1: trust your own evaluations. Don't give it this well Alabama
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: offered them. We got off of bullshit. That stuff will
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: get you fired. Let's trust our own evaluation. So I
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: go down to his school, mean it as a coach,
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: have been known each other for a long time. But maybe,
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: I said, coach, we will offer justice. They'll feel good
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: about him. You can played show, I said, gouse, he
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: did some real good things for us. He goes, you know,
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be eligible for signing
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 1: the day, but he can do some work and maybe
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: we can get for the summer, I said, who else
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 1: is offering? Then Nickel State and they played in the
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 1: run run run offense and stuff there so they couldn't
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 1: see nothing. So he got out. I got eligible in
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 1: in July, justin just.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: Golly, and then just seeing that machine come alive during
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: that fifteen and over run like.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 4: That of talent bro dude, I mean, arguably the best
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 4: offense to ever step on the field.
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. So Steve is making one of my
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: best friends in general. We want eighty percent game with Steve. Okay, great,
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: great guy love He's like John Wayne Man. He's a
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: good guy. He handles it in the office that needs
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: to band. But we didn't score any points against Alabama
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: two thousand, uh be seventeen. So in twenty eighteen we
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: were studying the RPOs, so we brought a young guy
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: named Joe Brady who was an intern at the Saints
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: but had been at Penn State with the guy I
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: forget his name. Uh he was at Mississippi State the
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: head coach. But they were good at RPOs, the run
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: pass options. So Joe comes, put up, gives our staff
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: a lecture or run pass options again. Then on Nancy
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: t right, but central situational awareness. Baby, U do you
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying. It took me five
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: minutes to realize whoa, whoa, this's got a special So
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: I told Steve after we played Alabama's and Steve shut
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: when you n LSU you got how you go beat Alabama?
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: You ain't gonna tell everybody that to day how you
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: gonna match? Um Man, it was so dumblant. I thought
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: we had to get bigger off Taska. I wasn't that
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: we need to spread the ball out and we need
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. I got him. Now we need
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: to learn to spread offense. He knew it. I said Steve,
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: if I hired Joe, will you let him teach us
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: to spread? He goes, hell, yeah, Now I just asked
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 1: him right after we didn't score damn poortigaus Alabama. So
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: that was a teachable moment. Followers right, kind of humble,
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 1: and we brought Joe in. Steve and Joe were wonderful.
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: We went to the spread, we went to the lookovers,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: and we looked at the sideline. If Joe Brady caught
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: you in the defense, and he told Joe Burrow what
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: to do what those two casts we had. We burned
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 1: so many people by athletic ability, great quarterback, great players,
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: and we had a great offensive line in great coaches.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 1: They all came together.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah when did When did Joe Brady leave for Buffalo?
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: He well, well we went, we went the National championship. Right.
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 1: Now, I don't partake. I don't go out no more.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: You know, I've been I've been sober for almost twenty
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: six years now. Thank god. If I wasn't, the whole
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 1: world would know, I promise you. So I had a
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 1: press conference the next day. So I go to press
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 1: conference and then I get on the bus. Somebody Joe
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 1: Burrow's going, Joe Brady's going to the NFL. I'm like,
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: can I just enjoy this stuff for one day? Day?
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 1: He was going, no ship that day. He was going, Yeah,
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: that's the game.
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 4: That is the game. Like you have success, they're gonna
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 4: take your assistant coaches away from you.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you can't hard to feel shoes like
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 4: Joe Brady after that, Man, what a story. Just being
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 4: able to sit here and take all that in that
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 4: was unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, you were you were at us Cno.
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 1: Four. Correct, set again.
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 4: You were at US Cno.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: Four National chap back four.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 4: You take two thousand and four USC versus twenty nineteen LSU.
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 4: They both step up US to buy the grid iron
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 4: for the national championship. Who wins that game?
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: Let me say something to you. We had fifty five
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 1: sacks in the USC called the wild Bunch, and we
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: gave it up one point eight yards of carry. We
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: led the nation in turn of ratio. But I will
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 1: say this to you. I'll tell you, guys the game plan.
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 1: You don't need to write this now. If your boy's
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: gonna be coaches twenty nineteen game plan, you already. If
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: the bus left at two thirty, I'm gonna ask you
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: a question. I got on the bus and I made
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: sure damn Joe Burrows on the bus here. I mean,
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: if he went on the bus bus driving, you ain't
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: leaving man. We got to the stadium, I say that
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 1: Joe throw the ball at Jamoar if he ain't open,
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: throw it the just and ready break. And I became
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 1: a fan because I knew nobody could stop us. We
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 1: scored fifty points a game. As much as I like
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: that USC team, we were in the pro style offense.
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: We weren't in a spread and we could get ahead
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 1: of him. And I do believe Miami had a great
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: team too, But I do believe because of the spread,
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: because of Joe Burrow, we can outscore anybody.
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: So you got the Tigers over that U.
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: He was the head coach.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: But still defensively, he's got to think in his mind
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 2: too that Joe Joe Burrow is gonna shred his defense.
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 2: Ray mald Luga, Brian Cushion, Klay Matthews, Taylor Mays, the
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: wild bunch.
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 4: But look at them, but look at them.
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it right there, boys, make sure they owned
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: the bus. Look at the NFL. They still can't stop
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: those two. Yeah, think about it now. How about Justin
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: Jefferson the two star like you mentioned, was the NFL
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: offensive m v P.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 4: He's incredible.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: What was it like with Raymond Lougan, Brian Cushy.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: I was there. I was there with them when not
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: in their heyday, Okay, but I know them.
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 2: That's true for that's they're in their headad like.
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: But we had it. We we had a guy named
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: Little with the two Pools, pretty damn good, and we
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: had some good defenses. We have really good defenses to peak.
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 4: I love it. Is there anything that the boys in
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 4: the back want to ask Jack about Tennessee? Any questions
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 4: at all?
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: Charm's got one coach.
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 8: I'm an alumnus of Baylor. There's been a lot of
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 8: talk about Dave Randa and his future at the school. Yeah,
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 8: what are your thoughts on just Dave Randa? What he's
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 8: going through with Baylor? Do you think he can turn
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 8: it around?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a big fan of Days because
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: he was a great coach for me. You know, mean
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: he gave a lot to Llo. Shoot, I do believe
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: just like me, now, okay, no different. He's a better
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 1: defensive mind than I am, a lot more cerebal than
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: I am. If I doubt if he only bed a
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: tennerals AC team, you know, but just like myself, I
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 1: had to get great players and great coaches. I don't
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 1: think he's hit that in mark yet on up overall basis.
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: He might have had it in spots here and there.
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: I think in order for Dave to be a great
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 1: head coach, he has to be surrounded by greatest sisters
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: and great players. What he can do now next year
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: I surely hope so, because you're a great person.
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful. What was it like for you in the
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 2: like the fall at LSU going fifteen to zero and
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 2: then kind of the dissension going down tough at LSU.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 1: It was tough. God, it was tough. It was tough.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: But look, you know, we hired both boll had the
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: number one defenses in the world. It just didn't work.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 2: That was during that COVIDE and I knew too, like
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: when he went back to LSU. Obviously he had a
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 2: ton of success. Yeah, both in Nebraska, but even before that,
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 2: when he was in the defensive coordinator for less miles
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 2: at LSU, I thought, but just knowing it, Yeah, knowing
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: that it was during that COVID year and we were
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: training over at Vanderbilt at the time, like when we
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 2: were playing for Tennessee, and the way the strength coach
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 2: that we worked with talk about all the rules and
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: guys not showing up X, Y and Z. I'm thinking, man,
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 2: the even double brackets, the way the tendency oriented stuff
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 2: that both uses, it's going to be very hard for
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 2: guys to execute if they're not like learning in the
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 2: system throughout the offseason.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 1: Good through it. Oh yeah, you know how complicated it is.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 1: But bow boy has very intelligent Now it just didn't
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 1: get away, you know. Uh, Mike Leach started running crossing
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: rouss and stuff like that. We were busting it just
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 1: it just it was Bull's fault. Now, it just didn't
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 1: work out right.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 2: You had to be so detailed in that scene because
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: there's ways to beat it. But if guys knew kind
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 2: of tendencies formationally condensed formations, bunches, guys like inverted alignments,
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: like you had to kind of know everything going on
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 2: for it to be successful. I'm curious too, what was
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 2: it like on the sideline with Coach Bo because you
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: talk about you talk about you being a hot head,
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: like knowing Coach Bo.
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you something. As far as my
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: relationship with Coach Polini, he let me be the head
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 1: coach and he was good. I mean he was really good. Now,
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 1: he blew up a couple of times, but he let
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 1: me handle it. But he was not he was not
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 1: abrasive or bad anyway. Yeah, he was actually pretty damn good.
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 2: That's awesome here because the coach Bob would blow up
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 2: at times and then the next day not even know
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 2: what you're talking about, and you're just thinking, what do
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 2: you just blackout in these moments? You don't remember, well,
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 2: you don't remember what you were saying to me, You
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 2: don't remember putting your hands on me, maybe like pat
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 2: me on the head and laugh. And then I'm thinking.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 2: He cared about his players, Yes, he did.
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 4: What was your thought process when you were on your
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 4: way out? And they announced Brian Kelly as a head
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 4: coach at l s U Because to me, I think
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 4: of L s U is obviously an incredible job to have,
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 4: but it takes a unique personality to handle that school,
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 4: that location, that state, and Brian Kelly didn't feel like
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 4: the personally had to handle that were you? What was
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 4: your thought process?
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: First of all, you know, I knew we made a
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: mutual decision. De we made a musical. We made a
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: mutual decision. Yeah, I mean after the fourth or fifth
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: game or something that and uh so I was good
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: with it, but I wanted to coaches team to then
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 1: and I made I'm not leaving this team and we didn't.
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: And you know, we played pretty good, almost beat Alabama also,
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 1: but at the end we beat Texas A and M
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: and I was ready to go where there's enough and
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: then they went through a little source right there. And
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: when they named him he was a big time hire
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I wondered how well he
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 1: would relate. Like you said, Louisa has a different place, man.
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 1: People think different. Uh, players are raised different, people are
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: raised different in the South. You gotta be a personable person.
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: You gotta go in there and love him. It ain't
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: so much about the ex's and the oles and again
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: by getting them to play and you know, hey, taking
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: care of him and make him sure, they understand that
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 1: he didn't do that. Now what he didn't have to
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: do it more today? Right, Well, if he did it,
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: outn't know. But when he came out has said family
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: and like that. It just it just it just wasn't
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: a good thing. Yeah. Is he a great coach, Yes, he's.
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 4: I mean he did it that note Dame for a
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 4: long time.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: He was great, a lot of respectful.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 2: But it's a different I believe so. But yeah, yeah,
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 2: since the name before that Notre Dame. Yeah, I was
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 2: curious to how it would happen. Jackie got something.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 5: I'm just curious to know, what does a perfect day
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 5: look like? For coach, O doesn't have to involve football.
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 4: I would assume it would.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 5: But from when you wake up to go to bed,
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 5: what is a perfect day for too?
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 1: Just what?
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: What?
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 4: What is your perfect day?
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 5: What is your perfect day?
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 1: First of all, I married a beautiful woman that's twenty
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: one years younger than me. Y'all saw a picture on
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: it and that I got lucky. But I still can
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 1: recruit that she is right now, Brandon Nicole, that's my girl.
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 1: I love her to death. You see that rock on
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 1: a handle. You know what I tell him? I said,
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: maybe you're pretty, You're pretty expensive. She's the love of
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: my life. Man. That girl had warmed my heart. She's
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 1: wonderful and we spent some great years together. So what
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: my day is now? I wake up in the morning
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 1: at five Now she's still sleeping, and I look at
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 1: that beautiful thing in the side of me and say,
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 1: you're a lucky man. So I get up and I
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 1: say my prayers. Now I'm involved in Alcoholics Anonymous. I
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: have a little reading I do every day, and then
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: at South Beach, I go to a meeting every day
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: from seven to eight. Met some good friends there, and
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: then I go to South beach. Now this is it is.
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 1: You guys are like this. I've been doing some deadlifts.
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 1: I go to Muscle Beach and I started doing some deadlifts.
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: I get my legs back, deadlifts and squats. Now obviously
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: there's some good sights there that can motivate, you know
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 1: what I mean? And so I go work out. I
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 1: go lift on. No Muscle Beach got my I just
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: got my shorts on. Feed in the sand. Then after that,
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 1: me and Brandy the cole go we walked this way,
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 1: then we run and then we walked the step. So
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: we do everything. We don't get back home until about
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 1: three thirty. And then they would go to pool, do
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 1: what we need to do, eat something, and get up
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 1: the next day and do it again. That's a typical
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 1: day of coach O.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 4: All right, well done, well didst work done right there?
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: Now look here, look and you know what pisses me
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 1: off about that? See I call that a job right.
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: And people have passed me by, say great day for walking,
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: and coach got them talking.
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 2: Boy, you had to you had to check one.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was one old boy came up. If I
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 4: could tell anything from this conversation, you you like a
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 4: lot of schools. You do not fuck with Bama.
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 1: Well here's the deal, Okay. When I was six years old, No,
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: eight to ten, I met coach Charlie mcclindon. He came
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 1: up to me. He goes, hello, he's the head coach
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 1: Ilishoo Tiger. I saw the man on TV. Hello, young man,
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 1: my name is Charles McClendon. I'm the head coach at
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 1: the L s U Fighting Tigers. I thought I was
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 1: talking to God. That's what I saw the man on TV.
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 1: But the man was so nice to me, shook my hand. Now,
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: we couldn't take a picture. Back then, nobody had pictures
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: on the phone and we could afford the camera. That
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna happen. Was that was for the TV man
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 1: at camera? You know. I mean, but he became my
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 1: favorite coach. But I knew the power of being the
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: head coach at l s U what it did for
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 1: young boy. So ever since then, anybody asked me to
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 1: take a picture, I'll take a picture. Yes, I want
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 1: to walk this right? How you doing? Actually their name
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 1: because it's not me, it's the position. Now. So when
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 1: I'm jogging, you see my little job, right, it's not
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: like it's warped speed. Why I can't stop right? And
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 1: somebody they told you take a picture. Yeah, well that
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 1: situation there. You know. The guy was a good guy.
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 1: And then I started going away and he says those
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: two words that are all like you know, so I
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: called him like you said, checked them, you know what
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: I mean. And all wanted to do is teacher respect.
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 1: But man, I'm on my jog, I'll stop, I'm gonna
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 1: take a picture with you. I'm running away. And you
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: can say he was very apologetic. He was very good.
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 1: Ninety nine people OFFI Hey, by the way, y'all see
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 1: that picture. You boys, come five and when you're sixty four.
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 4: I talked to him about being respectful.
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 1: It was roll tied, be respectful. You know. He just said.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 4: He wasn't like, fuck you, coach. He's like, all right, coach,
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 4: roll time.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 1: What the fuck now?
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 2: A school spirit from arrival? Yeah, roll tight, no, no, let.
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 4: Me teach you, the older guys.
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 2: I was gonna grab your form.
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 1: Let me teach you something, right.
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't say funk you nothing, hey, roll tight no, no, no.
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 1: I teach you about respect.
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 4: That is hilarious.
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 2: Should we ask in the bud like question, go ahead, coach, O.
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 2: You know how everybody would do anything for an ice
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 2: cold bud light? What is something that Coacho would do
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: anything for?
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 4: Crazy to ask? What the uh hey stuff? He's like,
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 4: I'm in both alcohols.
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 1: Anyone do anything for a butt light? However, what do
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 1: you want? You want to do anything for a bud light?
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 1: Or want to do any anything for anything?
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 2: To do anything?
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 4: You cannot say?
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 1: Family? Okay, good, good, good, A big bowl chicken and sausage,
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 1: gumbole with some file gumbole with it. And you see
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 1: in Louisiana we take the potato salad and we put
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: it into gumble. No, that won't fight a bear for.
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 4: That's the best answer we've ever heard.
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 1: The potato salad. Oh, you gotta go quickly, go man,
• 2:44:54
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you eat no se Okay.
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 2: This has been incredble coach.
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 4: We cannot see for real because we've been trying to
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 4: get you on forever. How long has it been, clump
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 4: A long time? Get you up here, hang out, talk
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 4: some stories a little bit. We first started, you're kind
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 4: of like, hey, yep, this this, and then once you
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 4: just started ripping stories, man, it's like set back in
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 4: and just enjoy this.
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, shut shut out of coach check.
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 1: How we doing?
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 1: You my man, I love you to death. Boy. Every
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 1: once in a while, I'll send him a little text
• 2:45:29
  Speaker 1: now and COACHK got three techniquetta put a little bit
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 1: better now him linebacker? Right? He is?
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 2: He is. We were sitting in his office and for
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 2: whatever reason, Coacho comes up. He's I'm gonna call him,
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 2: let me call him, or you might have called him.
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 2: I can't even remember. But you go on speaker and
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 2: you're talking to what you're talking with me, Jack and
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 2: JP can't even see her faces. And he's talking to
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 2: us like he's been on the bus the entire time,
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 2: like we've just been like he recruited us, like we
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 2: know him and everything else. We're like, Coacho, you got
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 2: to come on busting with the boys. I think you're
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 2: riding in the car with your wife and she knew
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 2: about busting with the Oh no, I got to come
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 2: on now. Yeah.
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 1: She lives in, she lives in. Yeah, she has a
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 1: whole mount She knows all about you, guy.
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go, man. I love that Coacheck right there,
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 2: Look at it.
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 1: Look at that's home man.
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that fits that place. I mean he's going
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 4: that's as close as it gets. Right, we're thinking of it, right, yeah,
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 4: I mean co check, you got got you're getting canceled
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 4: with this votel coming out.
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: Well you can see why he and I got along
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 1: that picture you know where you go.
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, we can't thank you enough. Man, Give a
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 4: brother a plus coach on.
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 1: How you got it?
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 4: Man, Appreciate you guys. Subscribe rate five stars, big hugs,
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 4: tiny kisses, Thank.
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