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- 0:04Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Monday, March to twenty twenty six, forty days of
- 0:13Speaker 1: morning for Ayatollah Ali Kamene, the Muslim cleric who rose
- 0:17Speaker 1: to become one of the most influential figures in the world,
- 0:20Speaker 1: now assassinated in a joint American Israeli assault on Iram. Now,
- 0:25Speaker 1: is Iran promises revenge and Donald Trump calls on Iranians
- 0:29Speaker 1: to rise up. What do Iran's terror proxies, Hesbala the
- 0:32Speaker 1: Hoofis and her mass do next. The Australian is covering
- 0:37Speaker 1: this story in immense and gripping detail with our network
- 0:40Speaker 1: of correspondence around the world and top analysts and newsbreakers
- 0:44Speaker 1: here in Australia. Now's a great time to join us
- 0:48Speaker 1: at the Australian dot Com to make sure you don't
- 0:51Speaker 1: miss a thing. As missiles and drones rain on the
- 1:01Speaker 1: Middle East, disrupting the entire globes trade and travel networks,
- 1:05Speaker 1: O correspondent Joanni Bishan joins me from Israel to explore
- 1:09Speaker 1: how the world has changed.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Donald Trump says Iran supreme leader is dead, as fears
- 1:22Speaker 2: grow for all out war in the Middle East.
- 1:24Speaker 3: And Iran has responded with fire across the wider Middle East.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Israel and the US will hope the regime will come unstuck. Yani,
- 1:34Speaker 1: it's been a long day and night in Israel. You've
- 1:36Speaker 1: been in and out of bomb shelters in the center
- 1:38Speaker 1: of the country since the sirens started on Saturday morning.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Tell me how are Israeli's dealing with their new reality.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a weary defiance to this conflict,
- 1:48Speaker 2: as there has been with the previous conflicts. And to
- 1:51Speaker 2: be quite honest, I think Israelis are losing count of
- 1:53Speaker 2: how many times, first of all, they've had to run
- 1:55Speaker 2: to the shelters, or how many times they've had to
- 1:57Speaker 2: lace up and go into Gaza or the front, or
- 2:00Speaker 2: take care of other matters like stocking up their shelters
- 2:03Speaker 2: and taking their kids out of school or canceling their holidays.
- 2:05Speaker 2: So there's a weary defiance. There's a weary sense of
- 2:08Speaker 2: resignation to this. But as usual, there's that typical Israeli
- 2:12Speaker 2: resilience that's to play. People are trying to edge life
- 2:15Speaker 2: forward in any way they can, Like, for example, I
- 2:18Speaker 2: was in Tel Aviva yesterday and I met a young
- 2:20Speaker 2: woman who was telling me that between running from her
- 2:23Speaker 2: apartment to the public shelter which's down the street, she
- 2:26Speaker 2: was losing a lot of time, but she still found
- 2:28Speaker 2: time to cook food for the rest of the week
- 2:30Speaker 2: and do some laundry. And although they sound like kind
- 2:33Speaker 2: of the unremarkable markers of everyday life, these are the
- 2:36Speaker 2: kind of things that are keeping people here going. You
- 2:38Speaker 2: just kind of have to edge forward and keep things moving.
- 2:41Speaker 2: And I guess aside from that, Israeli is a match
- 2:44Speaker 2: fit because of all that practice they've had dealing with
- 2:48Speaker 2: wartime psychology and pulling themselves together and dealing with disruption
- 2:52Speaker 2: and interruption to their lives. So pushing ahead, but certainly
- 2:56Speaker 2: getting tired of it.
- 3:02Speaker 1: You've been trying to drive around for some of that time.
- 3:04Speaker 1: What happens if you're on the road when the sirens
- 3:07Speaker 1: go off.
- 3:08Speaker 2: It's terribly frustrating to try and drive around in Israel
- 3:11Speaker 2: at the moment, because the moment you get inside your car,
- 3:14Speaker 2: you're liable to hear a siren going off. And when
- 3:17Speaker 2: a siren goes off and you're not near a safe room,
- 3:20Speaker 2: the best advice is to ditch the car or the motorbicle,
- 3:23Speaker 2: whatever vehicle you're using, and to run to the nearest
- 3:26Speaker 2: form of shelter. And if there is no form of shelter,
- 3:28Speaker 2: you should just get down on the ground and put
- 3:30Speaker 2: your hands over your head and try and get away
- 3:32Speaker 2: from any cars, because they, of course can become trapne
- 3:34Speaker 2: if a missile lands nearby. But what it means in
- 3:38Speaker 2: practice at the moment is incoming missiles every five to
- 3:42Speaker 2: ten minutes. If you are trying to drive one hundred
- 3:45Speaker 2: meters down the street, you are probably going to stop
- 3:48Speaker 2: and have to run for shelter. Very often. It is
- 3:51Speaker 2: very difficult to cover at any distances here in Israel
- 3:53Speaker 2: in a car. And I think that's part of the
- 3:56Speaker 2: terror psychology that the Iranian regime is deploying it moment.
- 4:00Speaker 2: It's not to launch hundreds of missiles in a single
- 4:04Speaker 2: bat it's to drip feed them over a very long
- 4:10Speaker 2: period of time, to keep people awake at night, to
- 4:13Speaker 2: disrupt the economy, to stop people from traveling and moving around,
- 4:17Speaker 2: and to interrupt life in any way possible.
- 4:26Speaker 1: On Sunday afternoon Australian time, Iran confirmed something it clearly
- 4:30Speaker 1: didn't want to confirm, that Iola Kameni is dead. Haimone's daughter,
- 4:35Speaker 1: grandchild and two other family members were also killed in
- 4:38Speaker 1: the strikes. How significant is his removal as an individual
- 4:43Speaker 1: Yowni in terms of Israel and the region's biggest story,
- 4:47Speaker 1: bigger history.
- 4:49Speaker 2: I don't think it gets much bigger than the assassination
- 4:51Speaker 2: of the Iptola, and it provides certainly a level of
- 4:55Speaker 2: symmetry to the war that started on October seven by
- 4:59Speaker 2: Iraq's proxy Kamas. I mean, we have to remember that
- 5:02Speaker 2: it was Kamas that launched the war on October seven,
- 5:05Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and two and a half years later,
- 5:08Speaker 2: it's the Ayatola and the entire Iranian military leadership and
- 5:12Speaker 2: political leadership that is paying the price for it. And
- 5:16Speaker 2: the story, of course, is that Israel kills him. He
- 5:19Speaker 2: didn't die of all day, She didn't gracefully step down
- 5:22Speaker 2: and fade into retirement. He was eliminated, just as terrorist
- 5:26Speaker 2: leaders everywhere have been for orchestrating attacks on the Jewish
- 5:30Speaker 2: State and America. And that's the story that Israelians are
- 5:33Speaker 2: going to be telling themselves out of this, as they
- 5:36Speaker 2: do with the story of the demise of Yehia Sinoa
- 5:39Speaker 2: and Ismailhania and Hassan Masrala of Heswellah. This was an
- 5:43Speaker 2: account in the case of the Iontola that very much
- 5:45Speaker 2: needed to be settled, the ultimate account, you might say,
- 5:48Speaker 2: and it's arrived. It's a remarkable situation. And the fact
- 5:53Speaker 2: that the Iranians wouldn't admit that he was dead for
- 5:57Speaker 2: many hours after the strikes occurred tells you that they
- 6:00Speaker 2: were in all likely could bind time to put in
- 6:02Speaker 2: place contingencies against a popular uprising the kind of President
- 6:07Speaker 2: Don Trump has been calling for.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say
- 6:13Speaker 3: tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand.
- 6:16Speaker 3: When we are finished take over your government, it will
- 6:19Speaker 3: be yours to take.
- 6:22Speaker 2: And we'll see now if that transpires. If it doesn't
- 6:24Speaker 2: happen now, who knows when it will happen.
- 6:28Speaker 1: You mentioned Hesbela. Israelis have been bracing for renewed assaults
- 6:31Speaker 1: by Hesbella, and Iran's are the terror proxies, of course,
- 6:35Speaker 1: the Hoofis and Hamas. But as Tehran scrambles to regroup
- 6:40Speaker 1: and we work out what's happening there, how dangerous are
- 6:43Speaker 1: those proxy forces on their own?
- 6:46Speaker 2: Of the three you would have to say Hesbela and
- 6:49Speaker 2: the Houthis are the greater concern. Hesbella very much because
- 6:52Speaker 2: it's in such close proximity to israelitive just north of
- 6:55Speaker 2: the border, and it really has the capacity to aim
- 6:58Speaker 2: precision missiles ballistic missiles at Israel, and they have them.
- 7:01Speaker 2: They don't have them in the numbers that the Iranians
- 7:04Speaker 2: have them, but they do have them. It hasn't happened
- 7:06Speaker 2: yet because Israel has been conducting twice daily operations in
- 7:10Speaker 2: sudden Lebanon to neutralized key positions that Hesba fighters have
- 7:13Speaker 2: been trying to take. But the truth is Hesbelar is
- 7:16Speaker 2: not the fighting force that it was on October six,
- 7:18Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and if it does join this conflict,
- 7:22Speaker 2: it will contribute to havoc in the region. We are
- 7:24Speaker 2: already seeing assemblance of havoc playing out in places like
- 7:28Speaker 2: Bahra in the UAE, Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar, and elsewhere. Hesbela
- 7:38Speaker 2: has abstained from the fighting so far, but we have
- 7:40Speaker 2: to remember we're not forty eight hours into this extremely
- 7:43Speaker 2: consequential war, which really does have quite a way to run.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of Israeli troops and reservists have now
- 7:54Speaker 1: been called up, So almost everyone in Israel has a
- 7:57Speaker 1: personal interest in this conflict. Apart from feeling themselves in peril,
- 8:00Speaker 1: They've got a loved one who might be going into
- 8:02Speaker 1: a conflict zone at any moment. Donald Trump's calling on
- 8:05Speaker 1: Iranians to rise up and seize their own government with
- 8:09Speaker 1: American permission and assistance, but he let them down last time.
- 8:12Speaker 1: So what is that prospect like for the rest of
- 8:14Speaker 1: the region, including Israel? If Iranians do rise up and
- 8:18Speaker 1: create some sort of new government, is there a possibility
- 8:21Speaker 1: that it could be as bad as or worse for
- 8:24Speaker 1: Israel than it was before.
- 8:26Speaker 2: I think this would seem to be a very pivotal moment,
- 8:29Speaker 2: to state the obvious for the Iranian people and obviously
- 8:31Speaker 2: the Iranian regime. If there is a popular uprising in
- 8:34Speaker 2: the country and they're able to take back power and
- 8:37Speaker 2: topple the regime, there is every likelihood that some form
- 8:40Speaker 2: of secular government will be reinstated and there will be
- 8:43Speaker 2: a parliamentary election of some kind or a democratic election
- 8:46Speaker 2: of some kind to see a new leader elected. But
- 8:48Speaker 2: if that doesn't happen, then there is just as much
- 8:51Speaker 2: of a likelihood that an even harderlign military or religious
- 8:54Speaker 2: figure will take control of the country and we will
- 8:57Speaker 2: have the Iotola plus plus insert himself into the fray.
- 9:02Speaker 2: That is not going to be a good thing for
- 9:04Speaker 2: Israel and the region. It's not going to be a
- 9:06Speaker 2: good thing for America, and it will not have achieved
- 9:08Speaker 2: the ultimate objectives that either side were hoping to reach
- 9:11Speaker 2: by launching this conflict, which even though they're not saying
- 9:14Speaker 2: it out loud, was to affect Regian change. That's the
- 9:18Speaker 2: ultimate goal here. And I suppose for the Iranian people themselves,
- 9:21Speaker 2: this is their moment. We know what happens when they
- 9:23Speaker 2: try to voice their concerns about this regime. We saw
- 9:28Speaker 2: large numbers of people killed on the streets of Tehran
- 9:31Speaker 2: and other major cities in the country. On the other hand,
- 9:34Speaker 2: has there been a moment of such a magnitude since
- 9:36Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine, I arguably not. So it's really a
- 9:39Speaker 2: matter for the Uranian people, as the Israelis and the
- 9:41Speaker 2: Americans keep saying, If not now, then.
- 9:43Speaker 1: When Junny, I'm really glad we managed to find a
- 9:47Speaker 1: little gap between air raid soriens to speak to you.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Jen, stay safe, Thank you Joanni
- 10:03Speaker 1: Bishani is in the Middle East for The Australian. You
- 10:06Speaker 1: can read Yonnie's coverage, plus all our expert analysis and
- 10:09Speaker 1: reporting right now at the Australian dot com dot au