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96: Sister Wives - Battle Lines Are Drawn (S18 E9) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts, Deelia here
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  with my real tight homegirl Beatrice, and we are gathered here today in the
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  dumpster to talk about sister Wives Bitch. We had another episode with a lot
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  of talk talk talking, but so much was divulged. Got a lot to
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  it. Thank you. In eddvance. Yes, all right, now,
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  before we get into the latest episode of sister wives. We do have some
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  hot gossip to go over. Yes, we have like a little group chat.
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  We just send each other things we did during the week that we find
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  interesting and so they're like a few things that I wanted to talk to you
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  about, Beatrice. Yeah, first and foremost was the post that Without a
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  Crystal Ball made recently either today or yesterday, entitled Gwendolyn as in Gwendolen Brown,
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  Christine's daughter has expressed serious frustration with Christine Brown in recent months. Why
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  well, and so we're going to kind of go into some of the points
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  that I think Gwen has enumerated on her Patreon. But Without a Crystal Ball
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  is not the first content creator to catch that vibe. In fact, reality
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  T Squad Yeah whatever, her name is Sarah Sarah something. Yeah, she's
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  made a few videos about this, and she was the one who kind of
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  just noticed that the energy was a little bit off with Gwen. Like a
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  month ago, month and a half ago, she was starting to not be
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  raw raw Christine anymore like she was last year, and more maybe not writing
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  for Cody, but like Cody's getting a bad at it. Yeah, why
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  are we doing that? Michelty said that on her Patreon, and now Gwendolen's
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  saying that, yes, why so she's obviously talking to Cody and Robin maybe,
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  And there is a rumor that Gwendolyn got like a lot of money from
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  Cody and Robin around Christmas time, so probably twenty twenty two, it wasn't
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  twenty twenty one, And so now she's maybe trying to advocate a little bit
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  more for them, but I am not sure. So let's get into this
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  host from without a crystal ball, and I just want to talk about each
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  of these points that she raises. Okay, okay, this is how it
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  reads. Gwendolen Brown was absent from Christine Brown's wedding over the weekend. Many
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  have suggested Gwendolen's feud with paid In is the reason. However, a dive
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  through Gwendolen's Patreon reveals a more complicated situation unfolding. Here are a few of
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  the issues at play. Number One, Gwendolen feels that her life and family
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  life has been exploited for financial gain on reality TV. She has expressed frustration
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  with her parents, both of them not paying her as an adult for her
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  work on the show. So let's just kind of workshop each of these points,
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  Well, what do you think of that? That's kind of sounding familiar
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  to what happened with the Dugger kids, Okay, with their parents, because
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  their parents didn't pay any of the adult kids anything for being on nineteen kids
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  encounting, and same thing with like the Goslins too, Like the gospl kids
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  didn't get paid for anything they were Hella exploit on ELC. So, I
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  mean, I guess that's a fair point. I mean, these kids didn't
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  ask to be on this fucking TV show, No, they did not.
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  I think it was mickelty who said on her Patreon that Christine actually gives her
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  a cut of whatever she makes anytime McKelty and Tony are on screen. So
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  TLC's not paying them directly, but Christine gives them a little bit of money.
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  I'm wondering if Christine also did this with Gwen or any of her other
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  kids. I'm not sure. But at the end of the day, that
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  sounds like a TLC problem, right, not necessarily a Christine and Cody problem.
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  And the fact of the matter is, is you're an adult as we're
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  watching you in the scenes from last night's episode, is she like what twenty.
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  Yeah, like nineteen twenty, nineteen twenty, So you're making your own
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  decisions at this point to appear on television, and you're the one who knows
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  you're not going to get paid. Furthermore, you've gone on to I don't
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  want to say exploit, but definitely open up your life, open up your
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  family's business on your own Patreon, which I think you ma, I don't
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  know about twenty thousand dollars a month on right, so you're getting paid there
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  to do it, So I don't know. I just I'm not really feeling
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  that particular argument. That's a good point, like, if you really felt
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  like you were exploited, why are you going on Patreon right reacting to shows
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  that I don't know? That does make sense to me either. A Number
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  two Gwendolyn says TLC production tricked her into signing an NDA or a contract on
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  the day of the party for her wedding. She says the NDA should not
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  be enforceable because she wasn't given the full details of what she was told to
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  sign. I thought that was super shady. I would not put it past
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  TLC at all. I'm wondering who told her to sign was it Cody?
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  Was it Christine? Was it TLC? How was she allegedly coerced into doing
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  so? Yeah? And I'm like, why aren't you reading what you're signing?
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  Though? Like if you're getting a contract, like and you're an adult,
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  this is at your wedding, right, so you're nineteen twenty, Why
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  aren't you reading what you're signing? Number Three, Producers turned a filming event
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  for her wedding into drama between David and Cody, which she felt took away
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  from her day. But how is that Christine's fault? Yeah, that's not
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  Christine's fault. And at the end of the day, wasn't she the one
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  who would have had to sign off on allowing cameras into her wedding or into
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  her engagement party? She would have been the one to make that call,
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  not her parents, right, Well, wasn't it just like tabloids that were
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  getting photos and stuff? Like was it necessarily the network? Like? Yeah,
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  no, TLC? Was there filming? Were they actually filming? So
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  we're going to see that? I think we are going to see that.
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  Yes, And she got pissed and we might go into this, but she
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  got pissed because that was her wedding, and also this happened at her engagement
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  party, and so she wanted it to be about the engagement and maybe she
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  wanted to be on TLC or wanted to be on the show talking about what
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  was actually going on in her life, but instead TLC turned it into drama
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  between David and Cody. So she's pissed off about that. But like that
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  has nothing to do with Christine, right, and it doesn't have anything to
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  do with Cody either. Yeah, it's TLC, So get mad at TLC,
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  not your parents, right. Number four, Gwen doesn't like how Christine
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  has been playing up for the cameras and over dramatizing her split with Cody.
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  Now, this is something that I have personally seen. I feel like she's
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  I don't know, amplifying emotions. I don't want to say manufacturing emotions Christine,
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  but she's like amplifying emotions. I think she's playing it being sad,
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  or she's playing it being angry, or playing it being so so happy to
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  be divorced for the cameras. Yeah, no, I would agree, especially
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  after this last episode. Christine was low key annoying me, made her emotions
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  and stuff. I'm like, just shut up at the ex anniversary party.
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  It's like she sucks the air out of the room. She reminds me a
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  lot of MACHELTI. Yeah, Mickelty does the same thing. She's always chatterbox
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  and talking on it's not making no sense and nobody's really listening. And Christine
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  kind of has a little bit of that in her too, totally. And
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  just Janelle sitting in the corner like I would be word just like, here's
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  my glass of wine. I don't know what to say, and anytime I
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  try to say something, Christine jumps on it, hijacks the conversation and starts
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  talking herself. Yeah, so I would agree with that sentiment with Gwen me
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  as well. Number five. Gwen says that she didn't appreciate her mom bringing
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  her up during Christine's lunch with Cody itself abrove. She felt like her mom
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  broke her confidence by sharing that with her dad. She said, there is
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  no safety in the family because all private conversations can end up on the show.
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  So again we have the words safe, safe, and unsafe. So
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  tired of that. Please exorcize that from your vocabulary is so old. And
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  the comment I think she's referring to is when Cody was talking about COVID,
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  right yep, and Christine brings it up and it says, oh, it's
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  really funny. Gwendolen said this, and then Cody cut her off right,
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  So she didn't even actually bring anything up. She was probably just mentioning something,
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  trying to be lighthearted. Yes, and that's it. So, I
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  mean, that's a little bit dramatic, Gwen. But I also understand the
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  sentiment of like, there's no privacy in the family. His private conversations can
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  be brought up and are brought up on the show, and a lot of
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  the times we've seen, at least in the most recent seasons, conversations are
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  being brought up on the couch the talking heads, unbeknownst to anybody else.
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  So, I mean, I get it, but like, calm down.
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  I feel like calm down too. I mean, this is your mom.
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  She's in an awkward situation. It was obviously like a lighthearted joke. It
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  was a throwaway thing that she was saying, and like you said, she
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  didn't even get to complete her thought. And you're just making it, You're
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  catastrophizing and making it into this whole other thing that It doesn't need to be
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  unless you are seeking drama, which guess what I'm starting to think Gwen is
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  really interested in seeking attention, money, and drama. She's a good brown
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  Okay, just like all the browns. Oh yeah, number six, Gwen
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  said Christine favors Peyden over all of her other children. The boys are treated
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  differently in the family and more respected by the parents. Payden abused her when
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  as a child, and Christine apparently didn't do enough to stop it and favors
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  Payden to this day. Can I just make a statement, this might be
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  controversial, but go back to our disclaimer where I said it was gonna be
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  that way anyway. She keeps throwing out these somewhat vague accusations about Payden.
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  I think maybe she was specific about him hitting her when they were younger and
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  definitely being a bully to her, But she's gone farther than that in some
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  of her statements so as to make people wonder if she's talking about something more
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  yeah, like essay or CSA. And I feel like she would have to
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  know that about the way that she's I'm wondering if she wants people to wonder
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  about that. I mean if you're going to bring it up, right,
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  And if you're going to talk about that as an issue, if you're gonna
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  put it on your Patreon, if you're going to charge people for doing that,
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  people are going to ultimately have questions. And if he didn't do that
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  to you, that doesn't mean he's not a bastard. That doesn't mean that
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  you don't get to have your own healthy boundaries. One hundred percent, you
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  can do that. But if he didn't do that for you, and you
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  know, there's a question hanging out there, like, wouldn't you want to
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  correct that? Yeah? And all I've seen online is people talking about her
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  referencing him hitting her as a kid, and I'm like, I don't I
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  don't know, man, And I'm like, I don't see the favoritism either
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  with Peyton, Like I feel like he's really rarely ever a topic of conversation
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  on the actual show, And like the only scene we've really seen of him
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  this season was during Thanksgiving. That was it and him just being like a
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  mama's boy and like just trying to be chill, Like I don't know.
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  I mean, if you don't like your brother because of how he treated you
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  as a kid, that's fair. Yes, And if you don't like him
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  because of his political views and stuff like that, because you guys are so
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  vastly different, again, that's fair, And like you have every right to
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  have your boundary and not talk to him and not be a part of his
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  life or anything like that. But like, I don't understand the whole he's
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  the favorite. Yeah, I've never seen that. In fact, as we're
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  rewinding and going back into old seasons which we cover on the podcast, Peydon
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  always struck me as being kind of an invisible kid, like a lot of
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  times when he's acting out and inappropriately, like when he was bullying Robin's girls
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  and such, I think that he was doing that to get some kind or
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  any kind of attention. So I feel like it's a little bit sad.
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  And again, and we've talked about this. I used to beat the shit
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  up out of my brother. Oh my god, he threw me off the
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  stairs. I used to claw his back. We used to wrestle. My
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  parents got all drunk, threw us into the middle of the living room and
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  said beef till blood, and we would just fight like we were wild.
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  It was crazy, and I know that's extreme, but I think a lot
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  of siblings can relate to the fact that we used to beef and tussle with
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  our siblings all the time. That was just part of growing up, especially
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  if there was trauma or some other kind of factor in the family structure,
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  which here definitely there was. So I just I wish you wouldn't let it
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  hang out there, right. I certainly haven't seen Peyden being favored writted by
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  anybody. Yeah, and I don't know about her statement about how boys are
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  treated differently in the family, because didn't we cover this on some rewatches that
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  like the boys are made to grow up faster in the family, Like they're
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  like, okay, bye, the second you're old enough, you take care
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  of yourself, and like you don't need a parent anymore. Well, in
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  polygamy and in fundamentalist Mormonism, they are literally considered competition with their fathers right
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  as they start to get older, and so they they tend to be called
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  the lost boys. They tend to be cast out of families. And so
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  maybe it's true in the Brown family, maybe Gwenn's correct and he had some
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  favoritism, but overall in polygamy that is not the case with boys and when
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  you look at Gabe and Garrison and Hunter Logan and Logan, I mean,
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  it just seems like they would love to have a relationship with Cody, but
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  they do not have one, and it doesn't feel like he's favoring them at
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  all. Right, moving on, and says she's left out of family functions
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  and holidays with both of her parents. And this kind of bothered me because
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  this last Christmas, which we are watching currently on Sister Wives, Gwen was
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  not there. And it is because Gwen went to her wife Bee's family in
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  California. Christine knew about it, Cody knew about it, so of course
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  they're not going to invite you to Christmas. And then she went on to
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  say, well, they didn't even call me for Christmas. They were remissed.
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  They should have called her for Christmas, of course, but I feel
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  like she's trying to turn a nothing burger into a something burger and I'm not
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  having it me neither. It's more just drama, yep, drama, drama,
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  drama. She also says Christine and Cody are equally as bad and are
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  cut from the same cloth. She seemed to suggest both parents are narcissistic WHOA.
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  Guess what. I can see a little bit of that in her too,
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  in Christine, in Gwendolen, oh yeah, and in michelt oh for
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  self absorption and only seeing something from your own perspective. And it's fundamental inability
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  to step outside of that and have some compassion, because what we're ultimately going
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  to get to is Gwen doesn't go to Christine's wedding because she is, I
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  think, in a place of judgment over her mother, Peyden, and maybe
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  even David Woolley. Interesting you think that's the root of all of it.
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  I think the root of it is that Christine didn't tell Peyden he couldn't come.
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  And therefore, that's the thing about boundaries, Beatrice, they belong to
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  you, Right. You can have a boundary not to put up with my
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  bullshit and to put me on no contact, But you can't have a boundary
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  and impose it on somebody else. Right. Gwen can have a boundary about
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  Payden, and that's perfectly fine and I respect that, Yeah, But you
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  can't expect your mom or anybody else to have the same boundary or to arrange
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  their life to accommodate the way you feel about something. That's time to grow
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  up. Yeah, exactly, it's not all about you. You can't dictate
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  your entire family structure because you don't like one sibling. Right. Yeah.
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  So these are some of the things that without a crystal ball aggregated for us,
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  but they came straight from the horse's mouth. These are things that Gwen
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  has said. Interesting, Yeah, very much. So. The next thing
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  I wanted to discuss with you in All of the Raccoons is the fact that
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  Gwen, as we know, did not go to Christine's wedding. We talked
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  about this last week. We knew she wasn't there, but you and I
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  were wondering, like, maybe she was there. Maybe we just don't know,
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  maybe she wasn't in any of the pictures. We didn't know the story.
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  Well, it has come out. We have now learned the reason that
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  Gwen did not go. Gwen missed Christine's wedding because she was quote overwhelmed with
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  her new mobile home and her organic chemistry course end quote. During an ama
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  on her Patreon, a patron asked Gwen why she didn't attend Christine's wedding,
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  and that was her answer, But also her answer was LMAO, I had
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  a finals in chemistry or lol, it's like not a big deal, like
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  a lot of dismissive, passive aggressive type language. Wow, that's some bullshit
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  right there. I'm sorry, but that it's really fucking selfish and lame.
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  Yes, And like Christine's wedding was on a Saturday. Yep, you weren't
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  in school on a Saturday, five hours away from flag Staff to wherever they
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  were Moab, I think, yep, And I'm sorry, but like I
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  took organic chemistry, it's hard, but it's not that fucking hard. Like
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  you can take a break on a Saturday and go up and go to your
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  mom's wedding because she went to yours. She was on time to yours,
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  yes, whereas your dad was not. Yeah, and yet you don't go
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  because of why. I mean, if she had a problem with David Wooly.
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  I guess I could understand that if you like don't support the man that
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  your mom's marrying or whatever, but like all the other kids do. Yeah,
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  And I think Payden actually came out and said that he didn't necessarily care
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  for David Wooly, but he still supported his mind. He still went Yeah,
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  So like you can put things aside. Right, Obviously you went to
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  Logan's wedding yeah last year and Peyden was there and you were able to do
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  that. So what changed except maybe your opinion of your mother? Wow?
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  And why did that change? Maybe is it because Cody gave you a bunch
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  of money? Right? Maybe is it because you were trying to push your
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  boundaries onto your mother? That is so messed up to me. I just
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  think that's super immature and super lame. And like I think did Gwen say
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  on her patreon that like she told her mom that she wasn't gonna go like
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  and it was yes, it was no big deal yet. But then McKelty
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  on her patreon said she didn't even know and she was Dean was sad.
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  Yeah, So what is it then, Gwen? Are you just giving us
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  bullshit now like your dad? Like good job right? Yeah? Lying?
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  Wow, obfuscating making up stories? Very lame. I don't know. There's
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  just like this overall vibe from so many of the Browns, including Gwen,
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  like I don't owe you an explanation, Like I can do what I want,
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  Like I have a life, I have like a new house, and
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  I have a chemistry. Course, it's really hard like, you don't know
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  me, but I'm like, I know what you put out into the public,
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  and you generate a lot of content for the public, and you give
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  us your opinions all the time, so you don't get to tell us we
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  don't have a right to give you an opinion. In response to that,
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  it can be all butt hurt, but I mean it is what it is,
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  what we're here for, right, we're raccoon, We're looking through your
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  trash and we're going to talk about it. Yes. The last thing,
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  Oh, there was a comment I wanted to share with you. There was
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  a comment on reality te squad Squad's YouTube video where she discussed some of this,
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  and this comment to me encapsulated exactly how I feel about the situation with
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  Gwen, and it reads as follows. Gwen is an adult. I'm sick
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  of some people treating her like a child. She's a grown ass, married
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  woman. We don't need to treat her with kid gloves. Her reasoning for
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  not attending her mother's wedding was absolutely atrocious. I know organic chemistry is hard,
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  but you can take one day, one day off to be there for
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  your mother on her first official wedding as her mother showed up for her wedding.
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  It's very sad. Clearly the money Cody gave her for Christmas and Peyden
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  being there clearly had an effect because within the last month or so she's now
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  anti Christine and all, well, my dad got a bad edit. Nope,
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  I'm not buying it. It's very sad, very sad. Gwen needs
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  to grow up based That comment is so based. Wow, grow up when
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  for real? Okay, So that concludes her hot goss. It was pretty
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  deuces information that's been put out there that I wanted to just workshop with you
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  because I felt some of this with Gwen was extremely interesting and her not showing
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  up for Christine was rubbish, super messed up, very garbage. I don't
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  like it at all, and I don't respect it. And again, I
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  respect when I respect her boundaries, I respect how she feels, but I
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  don't respect what she did. Right here, Nope, me neither. All
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  right, let's get to Sister Wives Season eighteen, episode nine, entitled The
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  battle lines are drawn in the Civil War, in the Civil War of divorce
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  in the Brown family. And indeed, I say, unto you, the
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  battle lines really were drawn, Oh for sure? Yeah. By codium rubbin.
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  Well, on the kids, some of the kids. The kids,
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  I think the kids spoke out. Like when the adults are talking about it
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  or the parents are talking about it, I think they try to be very
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  careful in how they're portraying the family dynamics. But when you have the kids
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  speaking out, especially from a place of hurt, that's where I think we
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  really start to learn some things. Yeah, we get the honesty a little
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  bit from the Browns, the stuff that the adults don't want to actually air
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  out, but the kids are like, fuck this. Yeah, I'm ready
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  to go. I'm ready to go. Well, what are some of your
• 21:23
  major takeaways from the episode in general? Well, Cody's an asshole. Like
• 21:29
  every episode it gets, he just gets worse and worse and worse. And
• 21:33
  I'm like, why, I didn't know I could hate you more, but
• 21:36
  I just every episode you're just such a piece of shit and such a bad
• 21:38
  dad calling his kids jerks. Hm hmm. I'm like, okay, so
• 21:42
  you've called them narcissists, you've called them stupid, and now you're calling them
• 21:47
  jerks all on national TV. But the wives are shit talking you, Okay,
• 21:51
  right, Okay, that's rich. Yeah, I also liked how he
• 21:55
  admitted to having favorites in this episode, right, but then tried to qualify
• 22:00
  it. Yeah, there's a reason though. It's loyalty, loyalty, but
• 22:04
  he admitted that he had a favorite wife because that's all he calls Robin loyal,
• 22:10
  obedient, a good wife. Uh huh, rich Well, some of
• 22:15
  my interesting observations were how angry he looks, how red his skin is,
• 22:22
  how red his fucking the whites of his eyes are, Like there has been
• 22:26
  such a dramatic transformation of physical transformation in Cody Brown, not just his energy,
• 22:30
  not just his attitude, but his physical body. He just seems like
• 22:34
  a different person to me. And every week it's getting more toxic, more
• 22:38
  dark, and worse. I mean, I was a little bit agitated before
• 22:42
  I even turned on the episode because I'm like, here we fucking go.
• 22:45
  Yeah, they're going to continue to try and gaslight us as if we haven't
• 22:48
  seen what we have seen with our own raccoon eyes. They're going to continue
• 22:52
  to just eke out the truth. And Christine does this, Janelle does this.
• 22:57
  They eke out the truth like truth trickle right, truth little by little
• 23:03
  to kind of form this this view of what has been going on, and
• 23:07
  I'm just I'm kind of getting tired of it. Yeah, like, just
• 23:11
  be honest, open your mouth and be honest. I don't need your Instagram
• 23:15
  motivational speak or Christine to be flapping on about how happy she is and how
• 23:19
  much they loved to Forest. I need to understand more. And can I
• 23:22
  just say this again. I know I've said this a few times on the
• 23:25
  pods, so everybody, I'm sorry, but I think it bears repeating regarding
• 23:29
  Christine. Isn't it convenient now that she has the I guess she has the
• 23:34
  ability and the space, I guess to start talking about polygamy as a family
• 23:41
  structure and how it is not healthy and how it really doesn't work, how
• 23:45
  she doesn't think it really works when she has spent season after season. In
• 23:48
  fact, I would argue she has been the biggest advocate and proponent for polygamy
• 23:52
  along with the Cody. She has been very offended when anybody questioned their family
• 23:57
  and how they did their family. She's been interviewed, she's been on panels,
• 24:03
  and she has ridden for polygamy. And again, I wonder how many
• 24:08
  people were persuaded into the lifestyle because her and her big fat mouth, we're
• 24:14
  talking about how great it was, and now in season eighteen you can just
• 24:18
  say, oh, yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, it's really
• 24:19
  a bad family structure. It's like, when did you feel that way?
• 24:22
  Because in the same breath, you're also saying that you guys had a really
• 24:25
  good family structure, and that was the whole reason why you went public with
• 24:29
  polygamy to begin with, was to show that it wasn't all about patriarchy and
• 24:33
  suppression and that it was a good thing. So you're contradicting yourself, and
• 24:37
  it would be nice if you could just be honest and be like, you
• 24:40
  know, I used to believe in this, but after being married to Cody
• 24:42
  fucking Brown and experiencing this horrible marriage and the breakup of my family, I
• 24:48
  realized it's not a good thing. Like, just be honest that way.
• 24:52
  But she can't even do that. And I've been reading comments online and on
• 24:55
  reddits and everything of people actually being mad at her for the same reason,
• 24:59
  okay, and for saying that. You know, there were so many women
• 25:02
  that she actually talked to who were trying to leave polygamy, and Christine would
• 25:07
  say, don't leave it like it's your spiritual tenet and you should stay and
• 25:11
  blah blah blah. So it's like, okay, now that you can leave
• 25:15
  it, and you're so happy about it, and divorce is the best thing
• 25:17
  ever to ever happen to you. Now you can sit there on your high
• 25:19
  horse and be like, yeah, polygamy's bad, but you had it for
• 25:22
  the last thirty years and you put all of your kids through it. I
• 25:26
  feel like she has a higher responsibility to go into detail as to why polygamy
• 25:30
  doesn't work, why it's toxic, why it's not good for women. Yeah.
• 25:33
  I feel like she owes so much more because she spent so much time
• 25:40
  repping it and advocating for it, and that it's still kind of sticking in
• 25:45
  my craw The other thing I want to talk about before we get into this
• 25:48
  episode is just Robin's daughters. And I know there's a lot of people who
• 25:52
  are like, the kids are off limits, and I get it, and
• 25:56
  I would generally agree if they're miners, if they're young kids. But nobody
• 26:00
  can tell me that wasn't creepy. Nobody can tell me that Brianna and Aurora
• 26:06
  on the couch talking about what victims they are and how hard it's been for
• 26:10
  them. Wasn't so reminiscent of their mother, who does the exact same thing,
• 26:15
  and also deeply troubling, like Brianna in particular when she's sitting there and
• 26:21
  we're watching her in the process of making Savannah Savannah of all people. Yeah,
• 26:27
  making Savannah the villainy and the reason why they ignore each other at school
• 26:33
  because they don't like me, because you know, they don't like us,
• 26:37
  and then crumbling into what I think is false crying because we didn't see any
• 26:41
  tears because you covered your face and you said, please cut the cameras crying.
• 26:47
  I'm like, oh my god, And I'm sad because here Brianna is
• 26:49
  a minor. I have compassion for her. She is so fucking sheltered.
• 26:56
  She is riddled with anxiety. But she's also I'm sorry, I'm just going
• 26:59
  to say it again, and this is a controversial podcast. She fucking sounds
• 27:02
  and smells like a narcissist to me. Yeah, like throwing tantrums, throwing
• 27:07
  energy, throwing vibes so that people can feel sorry for her, so that
• 27:10
  she can then gain an edge or gain power, just like her mother has
• 27:14
  learned how to do and how she does as an expert. Robin does it
• 27:17
  as an expert. Oh yeah. What pissed me off the most about that
• 27:19
  is knowing that Robin's behind the scenes coaching these girls and telling them what to
• 27:23
  say and how to feel, so that way they don't have any opinions or
• 27:27
  feelings of their own, Like they only know the narrative that Robin has conjured
• 27:32
  up for them, that the Browns hate them and that the kids don't love
• 27:36
  them and they didn't want them to be a part of the family. And
• 27:37
  it's like, that's not necessarily true. Some of these kids actually consider you,
• 27:41
  guys siblings. Your mom's fucking evil and your dad is a selfish piece
• 27:47
  of shit. Well you're not a real dad, but you know what I
• 27:48
  mean. Coding children. Yeah, well I get I guess I get sling
• 27:55
  away from David. Yeah exactly. But it's just like, that's what pissed
• 27:57
  me off about it was that Robin is making them into many hers and they
• 28:03
  don't get to be their own people and form their own opinions about their family
• 28:07
  structure and what's actually happened here. They don't know the fucking truth. They
• 28:11
  just know what Robin and Cody are telling them. That's what bothered me about
• 28:14
  that. She just struck me as emotionally debilitated, like unable to have an
• 28:18
  actual conversation about what might be happening in the family according to her, like
• 28:22
  I'm just like, I'm just looking at a Robin mini me yep, and
• 28:25
  I feel really concerned for your future if this is how you think you're gonna
• 28:29
  have to navigate in order to get along, Like right, the world isn't
• 28:32
  gonna care if you cry with your white women tears. No, they're not
• 28:34
  gonna care. You're gonna have to fucking buck up. Learn how to deal
• 28:37
  with shit, learn how to open your mouth and talk. Yeah, and
• 28:41
  quit victim blaming yourself, like constantly, I was taken aback. You know,
• 28:45
  I'm all about vibes and energy. I'm subject. Someone's creepy, Yeah,
• 28:48
  I'm super creepy. And then Aurora so maudlin and morose, I'm depressive.
• 28:52
  I'm like, cheer the fuck up. Girls, you're beautiful, you're
• 28:56
  young. The world is your oyster. You have a whole life ahead.
• 28:57
  If you and you're sitting on this couch looking like somebody's dying nobody's dying.
• 29:03
  These kids just want to exchange gifts with you. Yes, that's the worst
• 29:07
  that's happening, is if they want to exchange gifts with you and they don't
• 29:08
  want your dumb ass, whole ass mom inserting herself into the conversation. Yeah,
• 29:15
  okay, thank you for letting me vent. Yeah, let's get into
• 29:21
  the episode, all right. This episode starts at Garrison's house. Christine is
• 29:26
  coming over to cook them a meal, which is a salad which doesn't require
• 29:30
  cooking. But I don't mean to split hairs. And it's nice to see
• 29:34
  Christine with the kids. You can tell that Christine has genuine affection and love
• 29:40
  for the children. Savannah comes in to help her prepare her cooked meal of
• 29:45
  salad, and this is where we learn from Savannah that she doesn't miss her
• 29:49
  dad. Nope, not at all. Allegedly allegedly she didn't even think about
• 29:52
  him. You know, he just doesn't call. He's not around, So
• 29:56
  I don't spend a whole lot of emotional labor during where Cody the fuck Brown
• 30:00
  is And then Christine asks about her relationship with Brianna, like do you see
• 30:07
  Briana at school? And Savana sis, yes, but I mean, I
• 30:11
  don't talk to that bitch. I don't talk to her at all. I
• 30:12
  don't even acknowledge that she exists. I'm like, damn, and they're like
• 30:17
  the closest in age. And apparently Christine had no idea that they didn't have
• 30:21
  a relationship. Janelle starts to lie and say, well, they say hi
• 30:25
  to each other in the hall Well, actually no, they don't even do
• 30:26
  that, right, they don't see anything. And this is where Brianna fake
• 30:30
  cries on the couch and says, I just wanted to be a part of
• 30:33
  their family. I grew up with them and I love them. Okay,
• 30:37
  you can talk to her too, though, right, or you're not saying
• 30:41
  hi to her either? Yes, and you probably got a stank as face
• 30:44
  too in the hallway, which makes you unapproachable and nobody wants to talk to
• 30:48
  you. So it goes both ways. Yes, but I'm sure she's going
• 30:52
  home to her mom and crying about it every day. Savannah doesn't talk to
• 30:56
  me me, And my feeling is that it's probably Brianna that instigates it,
• 31:02
  because if Brianna is the girl that went into the Fifth Wheel and started making
• 31:07
  snide comments about Aurora's room being a dogbed and you really live here, sorry,
• 31:11
  Savannah's Savannah's room being a dog bed and making all of these terrible comments
• 31:18
  that would make Savannah feel bad. That makes me feel like, that's the
• 31:22
  girl that you are, and that's probably what you're doing at high school too,
• 31:26
  And so yeah, Savannah avoids you because that's mineral energy for sure.
• 31:29
  And it wasn't Brianna the one the little kid back in the early seasons during
• 31:33
  our rewatches where the other kids were like, yeah, if you just like
• 31:37
  touch her or like breathe near her, she'll start crying. I fact,
• 31:41
  like you hit her, Like she's the one that causes a lot of dramas.
• 31:44
  So she was even doing that as a little kid. Yes, so
• 31:48
  Robin made a lot of excuses for her. She's sensitive, yea, so
• 31:52
  we have to coddle her. Well, this is the end result of coddling
• 31:56
  your child to this degree. And I do think there are sensitive children in
• 32:00
  families. They do think that there are empaths in families, of course,
• 32:02
  and it's always the mpath that's processing the energy and the dysfunction of the family
• 32:07
  over in a corner while also being the black sheep. So I think she
• 32:10
  feels very deeply, but like equip her right, give her some resources,
• 32:15
  teach her how to be empowered in her sensitivity. Don't just like coddle her
• 32:19
  and make her feel like she's a perpetual victim, right, and teach her
• 32:22
  to take everything personally like her mom so bad. I was just like,
• 32:25
  Ah, that's not being a good parent. Helicopter parenting is toxic parenting.
• 32:31
  Then we pop over to Parowan, Utah, where we have a very needless
• 32:37
  and unnecessary segment with Mary Brown. She's clearing out her carriage house and she
• 32:44
  remembers the time when Cody used to help me. He used to yell at
• 32:49
  me as we were loading boxes. And there was a time I had us
• 32:52
  been but not at amore, not for many years. Yep, we get
• 32:57
  it. Mary, You've been abandoned and neglected by code. Now leave.
• 33:01
  Stop groveling. God, do you have a humiliation fetish for yourself? What
• 33:07
  the fuck is going on? It's really fucking weird. But she's there with
• 33:09
  her lesbian lover Jen and Jen's husband, so I don't know if that was
• 33:14
  Do they have a threesome? I doubt it. I highly highly doubt it.
• 33:17
  You know, I just think about these things. I don't know why.
• 33:21
  Well, I think this whole interaction set up the question to Sean,
• 33:25
  Jen's husband, which was, well, are you jealous that Jen has a
• 33:30
  friend who's a polygamist? Are you jealous of polygamy? And then they start
• 33:36
  talking a little bit more about polygamy and Mary's stance on things, and she's
• 33:43
  like, well, it's nice to have friends who don't just look at me
• 33:45
  like I'm this thing or I have this label, like they look at me
• 33:49
  because I'm an actual person. But isn't this also the part where she starts
• 33:52
  talking about the favorite wife because a little bit Yeah, Jen asks her husband,
• 33:57
  am I your favorite wife? Yeah, and then uses that to have
• 34:00
  the conversation where Mary says to the camera, yeah, it doesn't work,
• 34:04
  yeah, in polygamy to have a favorite wife, like you're gonna have to
• 34:07
  make sure that all wives feel taken care of. And is this where we
• 34:12
  bopped on over to Cody. Well, we went to Janelle because Janelle says
• 34:16
  that men are not supposed to have favorite wives in polygamy, and she talks
• 34:21
  about the spiritual aspect of it, like men are supposed to overcome their selfish
• 34:25
  desires, and then TLC with the Chef's kiss edit, bops on over to
• 34:30
  Cody, and Cody says, well, if men polygamist men have favorites,
• 34:36
  it has to do with loyalty. Whoever's the most loyal will be the favorite,
• 34:40
  and whoever is not loyal, then they're like Teflon, And he cuts
• 34:44
  himself off right right, and he's like, well, they're like Teflon.
• 34:47
  I mean, they're just hard to deal with. So I'm like, that's
• 34:51
  our reference to fucking Janelle and the other two wives that you consider not loyal,
• 34:54
  you piece of shit. So obviously the AI is becoming self aware.
• 35:00
  Yeah, so he is becoming aware that it is obvious that everybody knows,
• 35:05
  and he can no longer deny that he's favoring Robin. So now he's just
• 35:09
  going to stop denying it. And he's going to say, well, if
• 35:12
  I do, it's because she's loyal to the patriarchy, so of course I'm
• 35:16
  going to be loyal to her. And every waife's not loyal to me is
• 35:21
  a knife of the kidneys. All this time waste steady for you to be
• 35:28
  loyal to me, gotta hell Cody Brown go to can not stand it.
• 35:32
  Then we learn back at Garrison's house that Gwen and Gabe actually are going to
• 35:38
  be moving into his house. They're going to be roommates. Christine's like,
• 35:43
  those ain't gonna work because again I reiterate, they've got big political differences with
• 35:49
  I'm sure Gwen being turbo left, yep, Garrison being turbo right, and
• 35:53
  then poor Gabe maybe in the center, but you can't be in the center
• 35:58
  in this climate. Nope. Hila's violence day fast as fat. So how
• 36:04
  do you think that's gonna Do they even stay together? I don't think so,
• 36:07
  because she meets Bee at some point, so she moves in with Bee
• 36:09
  and they get married the U Haul lesbians. Yes, I thought that was
• 36:15
  interesting. I just don't know how this is going to go. I'm definitely
• 36:16
  going to keep my raccoon eyes and ears on it. Yeah. Then we
• 36:21
  sit down for the salad cooked dinner and Christine explains that Truly is with Cody,
• 36:30
  that she comes into town periodically for work, which I think she means
• 36:32
  to sit down with production and film her talking heads, and when she does,
• 36:37
  Truly could visit with Cody, but he really never asks for her.
• 36:44
  He never does, so this time she called him and said, hey,
• 36:46
  can you babysit? And so he said, yeah, can she spend the
• 36:51
  night And the answer is yes, and so Truly's over there. But that
• 36:52
  was a whole thing because then she gets into how she's preserved her relationship for
• 36:57
  truly, tell me what you thought about this this I've watched this episode three
• 37:00
  times today, and every time I watch this, I'm like trying to give
• 37:05
  Christine the benefit of the doubt here because I'm like, maybe she worded it
• 37:07
  weird, but I'm like, no, that's kind of a fucked up way
• 37:10
  to say that you think this is better for their relationship. And I don't
• 37:15
  know. Maybe it's because she views Cody as like a narcissist, a toxic
• 37:20
  person, and so she wants to quote preserve the relationship with Truly that truly
• 37:25
  thinks she has with her dad. Because Christine says this to the older kids
• 37:30
  at the Salad cook dinner, that truly thinks she has a good relationship with
• 37:35
  her dad, So that implies that Christine doesn't think it's that good of a
• 37:37
  relationship, and so she wants to quote preserve that by moving her away and
• 37:45
  keeping Truly away from her dad most of the time. But I'm like,
• 37:47
  I don't know what you're getting at there. She's trying to take the responsibility
• 37:52
  and accountability off of her. She's making an excuse for a parental decision which
• 37:59
  act's probably going to do a bit of damage to Truly for sure, and
• 38:02
  she is complicit and has a part in that. But then, I mean,
• 38:07
  was Cody really seeing Truly very much when they were in Flagstaff? So
• 38:10
  what's the difference? Really? Probably nothing? Yeah, Like, don't set
• 38:14
  it up to be this conscious choice that you made to remove her so that
• 38:17
  she could preserve a great relationship with her father. She didn't have one,
• 38:21
  right, and I doubt Truly even felt that she did. Yeah, Truly
• 38:23
  seems like a prescient and very smart kid. Yeah, so I doubt that
• 38:27
  she thought that she had a great relationship with Cody Brown. Like, this
• 38:30
  is the thing I'm talking about, like talking around and trying to make something
• 38:36
  look better than it needs to be. Right, you can just say like,
• 38:38
  yeah, you know, I had to leave, and I feel really
• 38:40
  bad, and I should have told Truly ahead of time, and I should
• 38:43
  have prepared her, and I feel really bad and so I will do whatever
• 38:46
  I can to make sure that she has time with Cody, right, But
• 38:51
  she can't say it like that. I preserved this relationship. I was actually
• 38:54
  thinking about Trulie, It's a good thing. While I was moving her away
• 38:59
  from everybody she knows in her old school district and everything. It's like,
• 39:01
  no, it's kind of a big deal. To me. It is a
• 39:05
  big deal. And I think truly felt that, Yeah, for sure felt
• 39:07
  that deeply. I think this is around the time Janelle asks the table of
• 39:12
  kids like, hey, have any of you talked to Cody or seen Cody?
• 39:16
  And they all say no, And Gabe says, you know, Dad
• 39:21
  said that he likes to spend time with the little kids. He doesn't really
• 39:25
  want to spend time with the old kids anymore. And this is kind of
• 39:29
  what launches us into this conversation with the kids about Cody and Robin, and
• 39:35
  before we get into it and some of the things that were said, I
• 39:37
  do just want to say that I felt like this was orchestrated totally and not
• 39:44
  by Janelle. I think Janelle participated and wanted her kids to be able to
• 39:47
  say whatever they wanted to say, but it really felt like Christine was drawing
• 39:53
  information out of the various kids so that it could be said on camera.
• 39:59
  Fell a bit manipulative to me, am I the only one? Oh yeah,
• 40:02
  well, I mean Christine introduced the whole dinner like that. She's like,
• 40:05
  I wanted to have this dinner with the older kids without truly and the
• 40:08
  littles around, so that way they could express their feelings in a safe environment.
• 40:13
  Like she said that the beginning of this whole thing, and I'm like,
• 40:15
  why, it's kind of weird to have this whole conversation on camera.
• 40:20
  I mean, I guess I get it in the sense of nobody's been honest
• 40:24
  on cameras, so we don't know the full story. We don't know how
• 40:27
  anybody feels, and we have been talking on the podcast about how we wish
• 40:30
  we could hear more from the older kids and how they actually feel. So
• 40:34
  maybe that's why she orchestrated it, because she's like, I know this is
• 40:37
  going to be good on the TLC cameras. I know this is going to
• 40:40
  get a lot of views. I kind of felt like everybody knew the conversation
• 40:45
  was going to go down before they even went over for dinner, so I
• 40:47
  think the kids had prepared themselves for it. I think that's maybe why Gabe
• 40:52
  was shut down a little bit, because I don't think Gabe necessarily wanted to
• 40:55
  participate at the level. For example, Gwen and Garrison were going in like
• 41:00
  compare and contrast with Savannah and Gabe. They're just kind of sitting there pretty
• 41:04
  quiet. Yeah, but Garrison had some things to say. It was definitely
• 41:08
  like he starts out saying, look, I bought a house, mm hmm.
• 41:10
  I went to school. I purchased that car. Dad said I should
• 41:15
  never purchase And I've done all of this and he has no idea all of
• 41:17
  these accomplishments, these like huge milestones in my life. And my father has
• 41:22
  no idea because he doesn't fucking call me. Yep, he doesn't care about
• 41:25
  me. He hasn't checked on me, and that's sad. Well, and
• 41:30
  then the edit brings up Cody in his talking head being like, well,
• 41:32
  I have reached out to Garrison. I reached out to him once before Christmas
• 41:37
  and then sometime after and they have me blocked. So they're the ones that
• 41:40
  don't want to talk to me. Right, It's like, okay, dude,
• 41:43
  I thought the phone went both ways though, Yeah, yeah, he
• 41:46
  was lying in that situation. You can't tell me that Gabe at this point
• 41:52
  has blocked Cody's number, or that if you called Gabe, like Gabe would
• 41:57
  not have been open or even Savannah open to picking up the phone and having
• 42:00
  a conversation with you. I feel like Gabe would really love to have that
• 42:05
  conversation with you. Maybe Garrison is a bit closed off right now right now,
• 42:08
  yeah, maybe, but I still think there's an opening with Garrison.
• 42:10
  I don't think he hasn't blocked. I don't think so. He didn't say
• 42:15
  they blocked his number. They he just said they they're blocking me. Yeah,
• 42:20
  they have me blocked. I can't reach out to them or something,
• 42:22
  or they don't want to hear from me. It's like what you said,
• 42:24
  and like, okay, that means they're probably ignoring your calls because why bother
• 42:29
  he's not calling. No, he's not calling. He's not calling, he's
• 42:31
  not doing anything. In the next scene, we get into the Christmas chat,
• 42:37
  Christine's like, like, I was busy, I was smoothing, I
• 42:42
  was living my hot girls stummery. Yeah, and so I don't really know
• 42:46
  what happened, although she does because she had said a few episodes ago,
• 42:51
  this is the sort of thing that happened. It was the line that was
• 42:53
  John in the stand, so she knew about it, but she wants to
• 42:55
  ask on camera what happened. And this is where we get into the conversation
• 43:00
  about the chat and why didn't you take it from there because it felt pretty
• 43:04
  convoluted and it was didn't necessarily understand everything. Well, yeah, a lot
• 43:07
  of people online are talking about this, like the timeline's kind of weird because
• 43:13
  Christine says Aspen started the chat, and then a couple episodes ago it was
• 43:17
  Michelt who started the chat or Logan who started the chat, so it's like,
• 43:21
  okay, who started I don't care, right, but it obviously was
• 43:23
  started. And the kids get into it and say that they were the ones
• 43:28
  talking about their annual gift exchange. They've been doing this for twenty years.
• 43:31
  It's been a tradition. They wanted to include Robin's crotch goblins, and they
• 43:37
  included him, and they asked and Robin piped in and said, well,
• 43:42
  let's do it over zoom. The kids, according to Gwendolyn said that that
• 43:45
  wasn't very personal. They would like to do something all tech. So this
• 43:49
  is where I got This is where I was confused, because what was the
• 43:52
  alternatives that the kids wanted to meet in person? Well, do they want
• 43:54
  to get into you? Because then COVID came into it, Yeah, and
• 43:59
  it was the COVID rules and we're trying to accommodate the COVID rules. So
• 44:01
  it sounded to me like the kids all wanted to get together and Robin was
• 44:07
  the one who proposed zoom yeah, And then Gwen said something like, well,
• 44:10
  that's not really very personal, and Robin said something like, well,
• 44:15
  Ariella doesn't even know what you look like, and then started to talk about
• 44:19
  her trauma, right, thing like that. She brought up the trauma,
• 44:22
  And that's probably where people got triggered because Gwen's kind of bothered by this.
• 44:25
  She's like, bitch, what trauma? Mm hmm, you're the favorite wife,
• 44:29
  Like nobody is inflicting any trauma onto you, like if a except you,
• 44:34
  except you, if anything. Were all fucking traumatized by all of this
• 44:37
  because her dad doesn't love us anymore. But yeah, apparently Robin brought all
• 44:40
  that up. Then some hurt feelings came up from other members of the group
• 44:45
  is what it sounds like happened in terms of like people being upset by the
• 44:49
  COVID rules and how they were all treated during COVID, and Robin takes that
• 44:53
  personally like she takes everything. And then that was when she ended it and
• 44:59
  said, well, I don't think that even happened, because that's what they're
• 45:01
  saying. No, I don't. They didn't say that they were bringing up
• 45:05
  COVID and how hurt they were. They were saying that Robin used COVID as
• 45:09
  a catalyst, yes to become exclusive with their father, and that when she
• 45:15
  brought up COVID, Garrison is saying, well, we were trying. We
• 45:19
  were saying, no, that's not what we're trying to do. We're just
• 45:21
  trying to figure out a way that we can do this gift exchange. So
• 45:24
  it sounded to me from Garrison's point of view like he wasn't trying to bring
• 45:28
  out like all of the fucking old offenses and issues, But it was Robin
• 45:31
  who was bringing up trauma and rules. And the kids don't even know you,
• 45:36
  So I don't even know if the kids were trying to hash that shit
• 45:37
  out. They probably weren't. She probably brought up COVID, But I think
• 45:42
  when Garrison was saying that Robin used COVID as a catalyst, he was saying
• 45:45
  that in the grand scheme of things, like not in the actual text chat,
• 45:50
  but she must have brought it up or somebody must have brought it up
• 45:53
  to make Robin blow up all like that. That's why I want to see
• 45:57
  this. Fucking give me the fucking receipt How many hack their phones and get
• 46:00
  this creden Peyden, I feel like you want to just drop the receipts,
• 46:04
  Katy. Let us see it so we can formulate our own opinions, because
• 46:08
  it sounds really pathological for Robin to insert herself into a conversation that is meant
• 46:14
  for kids, even though maybe parents were invited into it, and suddenly start
• 46:17
  talking about her trauma and how hard it has been for her and her kids
• 46:22
  to be integrated into this family. Excuse me, ma'am, this is a
• 46:24
  Wendy's Yeah, we're talking about gift exchange. What are you talking about your
• 46:28
  trauma for? But you remember in this scene, Garrison's like, and then
• 46:31
  Robin, through this process that she does inside of her head, turned it
• 46:37
  into her being a victim, and Gabe's like yep, and started to gaslight
• 46:40
  us, yeah, to make us believe that she deserved special treatment. And
• 46:45
  then I think Christine asks Garrison, so would you be open to having a
• 46:50
  conversation face to face with Robin? And He's like, absolutely not. He's
• 46:54
  like, I'm not even emotionally mature enough for that, and I just don't
• 46:58
  want to deal with that, Like fuck that, Yeah, And I felt
• 47:00
  that, like, it seems like the kids don't have a problem with Robin's
• 47:04
  kids per se. It's they've all have a problem with Robin and how she's
• 47:07
  dealt with all of this shit. And Robin and her kids are sitting there
• 47:13
  saying on their talking heads that somehow the Brown kids spilled that they were going
• 47:20
  to have Christmas without them without telling them. I'm like, what are you
• 47:23
  talking about? How would they have spilled that to you if they're including you
• 47:27
  in this group chat for this gift extra and seemingly want to meet up with
• 47:31
  you in person, probably while they're all at the B and B. Yeah,
• 47:36
  so how did you gather that all from the group to mother? And
• 47:38
  remember, Aurora is sitting there talking about the group chat and says Essentially,
• 47:45
  it was brought to our attention that there have been some negative things said about
• 47:50
  us with the siblings. Well, we all know that it was Robin who
• 47:54
  brought that to your attention, right, So she's stirring the pot with all
• 48:00
  of these kids and creating this unnecessary drama because she feels personally intact by the
• 48:05
  Brown family and like she says in her little couch session, she says,
• 48:08
  me and my kids feel like we've been voted off the Brown family island.
• 48:14
  Like what do you what are you talking about? The Brown kids are literally
• 48:19
  trying are literally trying to include your kids in this whole Christmas family thing.
• 48:22
  And then you're the one that cuts it off. Yes, you're the one
• 48:25
  who says, I don't want to talk about this anymore. And then you
• 48:28
  send your little fucking parrot Michelt. Yeah, and you ask Logan to go
• 48:32
  to the rest of the kids and say that Robin doesn't want to talk anymore.
• 48:36
  Gwen says, Robin doesn't want to talk to us any more. Period.
• 48:39
  Garrison says, Robin doesn't want to talk about the Christmas thing anymore.
• 48:43
  It's just not going to happen. Yeah, Robin says this is where like,
• 48:46
  I'm never gonna win. They're always going to see me as the bad
• 48:50
  guy, So I'm just gonna remove myself from the situation again not taking any
• 48:53
  accountability for your part in this. And this is where I was watching this.
• 48:58
  I'm like, look, even if you came into this family with good
• 49:00
  intentions of wanting your kids to have this big, beautiful family life, and
• 49:05
  like you wanted to come in as the fourth sister wife and be a good
• 49:07
  person and like be a good addition to the whole family, And if you
• 49:13
  came in with those intentions, you're still not taking accountability for your lack of
• 49:19
  care of the rest of these people's feelings. Like it's a hard thing to
• 49:22
  have to blend a family, and it's a hard thing to have to blend
• 49:25
  a family when you're the favorite wife, and like the other wives feel like
• 49:29
  they're neglected, and these children feel like they're neglected because they are because they
• 49:32
  are, don't just feel like that they are, and they're watching their mom's
• 49:36
  marriages crumble before them because of the shit that you are involved in. And
• 49:39
  rather than take any accountability for it and be like, look, I'm so
• 49:43
  sorry, I can see how that right, it looks that way, or
• 49:45
  I can see how this has not been fair. Right, you can't even
• 49:50
  do that, not just a victim. And it made me think of like
• 49:54
  my own life because when my parents divorced, it was a really messy,
• 50:00
  malicious divorce. My parents did not like each other. They still do not
• 50:02
  like to each other to this day, and my stepparents hate each other.
• 50:07
  My stepmom in particular, had a lot of drama with us. There was
• 50:10
  one year well actually yes, a little bit, a little bit. She's
• 50:15
  not as Machiavelian as Robin is though, but there was a couple of years
• 50:21
  where there was quote drama because my dad and my stepmom felt like me and
• 50:27
  my sister were not accepting my stepmom and we didn't like her and we were
• 50:30
  too bratty, and so they would cut off holiday visitation with us. They
• 50:36
  two days before Thanksgiving one year, they texted us saying, we don't want
• 50:39
  you guys here for Thanksgiving. It was our year to be with them.
• 50:43
  Same thing with Christmas that year, like, hey, you weren't loving your
• 50:45
  stepmom enough. Yeah, we weren't being We were thirteen and ten, I
• 50:50
  mean, and our parents were going through a really messy, toxic ass divorce.
• 50:53
  So, like, I mean, can you blame us? We were
• 50:55
  teenagers and we had attitude, but rather than talk to us about it,
• 51:00
  they did what Cody and Robin are doing, which is blame us for and
• 51:05
  then cut you off. Yeah, and then blame you for it not happening,
• 51:08
  yes, and then to this day say that that was the reason why
• 51:12
  our relationship faltered, and like, rather than take any accountability for acting like
• 51:16
  immature fucking adults, they just act like, well, we were. It's
• 51:21
  both sides. Like they've used that argument too, with like the phone calls
• 51:23
  and stuff and not making any effort. It's really not You're the parent,
• 51:27
  exactly, honest, is on you the responsibility. I mean, I'm sorry,
• 51:30
  but I know it's you're expected to do more because you're the parent.
• 51:32
  But like, you decided to have children and bring them into the world,
• 51:36
  and so this is your job, right, Your literal job is to take
• 51:38
  care of your family and to go the extra mile to make sure that your
• 51:42
  kids are okay, right, and that you're seeing them even if it's hard,
• 51:45
  yes, even if they're mad because their whole family life has been exploded,
• 51:49
  right, and even if you are mad at them for whatever reason.
• 51:52
  You need to be the bigger person, as the adult in the situation and
• 51:55
  learn how to handle it, not just say fuck you. You guys are
• 51:59
  jr. I don't want you over like we're not gonna get together as a
• 52:02
  family because you guys won't talk to us about these issues. It's like,
• 52:07
  whoa dude, Cody and Robin are wild. To me, they are wild,
• 52:09
  and you know, this whole conversation finally tipped me over into Oh,
• 52:17
  it really was Robin who wanted the apology from the boys, because why are
• 52:22
  you introducing the subject of your trauma into the Christmas gift exchange chat unless you
• 52:30
  want that fucking apology. There's no other reason for it. And then when
• 52:34
  Garrison says, and she's mad because we don't care anymore. In other words,
• 52:38
  we've dropped the rope. We're not going to continue in this emotional tug
• 52:43
  of war. We've dropped the rope. You can have the fucking rope.
• 52:45
  You can go be over there, be happy. We don't care. And
• 52:47
  that is what is making Robin mad, according to Garrison, because now she's
• 52:52
  not in the mix, she's not still doing her manipulations and she doesn't know
• 52:57
  what to do with herself now. It really is just do you Robin in
• 52:59
  that fucking imagine with your emotionally debilitated children and your fucking weird husband, Incel
• 53:06
  McDow husband, this is your life. Congratulations, you played yourself. You
• 53:09
  fucking won, I guess. And this is where Garrison says to the camera
• 53:14
  to the kids, like, hey, Aurora, Brianna, Dayton, Ariela
• 53:17
  and whatever, Solomon, if you guys want to have a relationship with us,
• 53:22
  We're always open. We will always be open. You guys can always
• 53:25
  talk to us like we love you, we forgive you. And they even
• 53:29
  say that to Robin too, They're like, we forgive you, guys,
• 53:31
  Like let's just fucking work this out and like try to be a family.
• 53:35
  They have to say that shit on camera because Cody and Robin and the rest
• 53:38
  of the kids don't want to hear it from them, which is messed up,
• 53:43
  and they want to continue on their campaign if they don't love us,
• 53:45
  they voted us off the island, and so unless they sit on a couch
• 53:49
  and say we love you. And Garrison also said and we forgive you,
• 53:52
  yeah, which made me wonder and I thought he was talking to the siblings
• 53:55
  there to Robin, Okay, so I forgive you and I want to have
• 54:00
  a relationship with you, but I will not chase you anymore. I'm not
• 54:04
  going to chase you. And that's what Robin needs. Honey. Yeah,
• 54:07
  damsel in distress, she needs to be chased. Wow. A lot of
• 54:13
  interesting things came out also. Gwen made the comment imagine having a dad who
• 54:20
  loves you, I know, and then Savannah finally spoke up and said I
• 54:23
  think he does love you, and then she wanted to continue to speak up,
• 54:28
  and then Garrison shut her down and said no, no, no,
• 54:30
  there's too much drama. And Janelle's like, no, let her speak,
• 54:32
  and so she finished and said I think he does love you, Gwen.
• 54:36
  He's just mad at you for some unknown reason. I wonder what it is.
• 54:39
  She's gay? Really is she's well why he was accepting of Leon when
• 54:45
  they came out of it, but he has no relationship with Leon transition though,
• 54:51
  well, but there's the rumors have said that since Leon's transition, Cody
• 54:55
  and Robin are not supportive and don't want to be around Leon or Leon's partner,
• 55:04
  and so I wouldn't be a bit surprised. Let's just say, I'm
• 55:06
  not saying this is what it is, but like, I wouldn't be a
• 55:07
  bit surprised if there was some inherent tension between Gwen and her family or Cody
• 55:12
  and Robin because of her sexuality. I don't know. I hope not,
• 55:15
  because that's terrible, that's really fucked up. But what else could it be?
• 55:19
  Right? What else when here is nineteen years old? Like, what
• 55:21
  the fuck has she done? Yeah, well, obviously they make it up
• 55:23
  if she's now getting money from Robin and Cody, and that's because she has
• 55:28
  a Patreon for him, and she knows they know. Robin and Cody know
• 55:32
  how many people actually follow Gwen and Michelte how everything they say is then disseminated
• 55:38
  by without a Crystal Ball or soap dirt dot com. Anything she says,
• 55:44
  Gwendolen says is picked up by the press and we'll get back to them and
• 55:47
  paints them in a certain kind of light. So that's why he gave her
• 55:52
  money. And maybe he's bribing maybe, or maybe it was a gift.
• 55:54
  What do I know. I'm not in the family, but that's maybe why
• 55:57
  they gave her money. Because everybody he's listening to what these kids are saying.
• 56:00
  So they're just doing the same thing that they're accusing Christine and Janelle of
• 56:05
  doing, using their kids to form a narrative about them to make them look
• 56:08
  better because they don't want to be on Instagram or any social media and face
• 56:13
  the music, which is everybody calling them out on their crap. Yes,
• 56:16
  that would be my guess. All right, moving on, now we have
• 56:21
  the other needless scene that I didn't need in my consciousness of McKelty going to
• 56:27
  visit Cody and Robin for Avalon's first birthday. Although Avalon is so cute,
• 56:31
  She's cute as chubby, but so c when babies have that baby line on
• 56:40
  their legs and super cute. Cody says something interesting because he says that Robin
• 56:49
  and McKelty have a close relationship because he and Christine didn't notice kind of what
• 56:53
  was going on with mchelt and apparently the older kids were not that nice McKelty,
• 57:00
  so Robin noticed this and took McKelty under her wing, which Christine also
• 57:05
  corroborates. Yes, that's true, and we know the McKelty spent a lot
• 57:08
  of time with Robin, watching Robin's kids because she needs nanny Yama. But
• 57:13
  that is how they forged their relationship. What did you think of the scene.
• 57:16
  I mean it's kind of wholesome. It like shows a little bit of
• 57:21
  what Robin could be, like a good person that she could care for the
• 57:23
  rest of the kids. I don't know why she held so tightly onto Michelty.
• 57:29
  Maybe because Michelty kind of was the black sheep of the family. Yeah,
• 57:32
  she totally manipulated. But also Cody talks about at that age, I'm
• 57:39
  sorry, well, yeah, we all were. But Cody also talks about
• 57:43
  how the reason why McKelty is still close with Robin and Cody is mainly because
• 57:49
  of Tony, because Tony and Robin are apparently bff. Okay, I'm like
• 57:52
  super close and I thought ethel was talking to me about this today and she
• 57:57
  called Tony an ass one hundred percent total ass lick. Yes, yeah,
• 58:02
  I bet they've gotten money from Cody and Robin just totally yeah. I think
• 58:07
  they're trying to pay off these kids with Patreons. Yep. After that,
• 58:12
  we move to I think the final scene where Christine is celebrating her ex anniversary.
• 58:17
  Baby. There's two dates that she celebrates her divorce date, which is
• 58:22
  the date that she told Cody Brown to come and get your stuff. You
• 58:24
  better call Tyrone, tell them come get your shit, Come get your stuff.
• 58:30
  And then the other day is their actual anniversary. So I hope she
• 58:32
  doesn't continue to celebrate that while she's married to David, because that's an appropriate
• 58:37
  Totally, it's kind of cringe. I can see why she would want to
• 58:40
  celebrate getting away from that asshole. I mean, I guess it's just kind
• 58:45
  of this whole thing is just a little cringey, and her just talking about
• 58:47
  how great divorces and I'm like, well, it's only great in this context.
• 58:51
  Are you leaving a narcissistic, abusive person. Divorce isn't always that great.
• 58:54
  It's not good for your kids, it's not good for the family,
• 58:58
  Like it's kind of a shitty, which she's like, it's so awesome.
• 59:01
  I highly recommend it. I'm not a psychiatrist or a counselor or anything.
• 59:05
  I leave your husband. Leave your husband. You don't need to be miserable.
• 59:08
  And then on the other hand, she's also saying ending a marriage is
• 59:13
  hard, Yeah, when a marriage is hard of your family, Yeah,
• 59:16
  ending a marriage is hard when you tell the world. I mean, it's
• 59:19
  just okay, Christine, pipe down a little bit. I just too many
• 59:22
  words coming out of your pie hole, Christine. And here was another it
• 59:25
  felt to me very produced and manufactured scene where she's getting these women who I
• 59:30
  don't know that she knows that well, and Janelle certainly doesn't know any of
• 59:34
  these bitches. She's curating this experience so that she can further talk about Cody
• 59:40
  and how happy she is and how she doesn't want him anymore and why their
• 59:44
  marriage fell apart, and introducing or inviting rather Janelle into the conversation as well,
• 59:50
  which Janelle doesn't do. I know, I did like that a bit
• 59:52
  because these women that Janelle has never met before in her life are just asking
• 59:58
  her really personal quest of like are you gonna leave Cody? Are you uncomfortable
• 1:00:01
  with talking about Cody? Like what's your life like with him? And Janelle's
• 1:00:06
  like, uh, it's fine. What's her name again? Like who are
• 1:00:09
  you? Like, I'm not gonna just spill all my shit, And I
• 1:00:13
  think she says like she doesn't want to be seen as weird, but I'm
• 1:00:15
  like, no, you're uncomfortable and that's totally fine, and you're kind of
• 1:00:19
  a private person. There's nothing wrong with that. You don't have to spill
• 1:00:22
  your beans. I mean, I know you're spelling it over TLC, but
• 1:00:24
  not even that. She's really she's still pretty careful. She is, she
• 1:00:28
  allows her kids to speak. She doesn't really say a whole lot. And
• 1:00:30
  even in the preview for next week, she's like, if you would just
• 1:00:34
  treat me, great, I'd stay with them, right, that's all it
• 1:00:36
  is. But he can't even do that. I mean she talks about like
• 1:00:39
  how she doesn't even think that they're really married anymore. They don't really have
• 1:00:44
  anything to salvage. I mean, that's what she said last episode when they
• 1:00:47
  went to go have dinner at Mariposa. So, I don't know, I
• 1:00:52
  felt bad for Janelle in this whole conversation because Janelle is me, Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  is how I am. And I don't know what happened to me because in
• 1:00:58
  my twenties, I swear it was a social butterfly. I was going out
• 1:01:00
  every single weekend. I was having long island iced teas with my friend,
• 1:01:05
  yeah, dancing on the bar, yeah. And I just loved going out
• 1:01:08
  and talking to people. And now all these years later, I'm like,
• 1:01:10
  is that person talking to me? For real? Is that person even looking
• 1:01:14
  at me right now? Yeah? I don't want to go out. I
• 1:01:15
  just certainly don't want to go to the clue. I don't even want to
• 1:01:19
  go to a restaurant. I don't want to talk to I don't ever pick
• 1:01:21
  up a phone. You know this, Yeah, you don't even answer.
• 1:01:22
  I don't talk to anyone. I won't answer my husband's chust. I'm like,
• 1:01:25
  if it's an emergency, just text me nine one. What. I
• 1:01:29
  don't like people that much, And so I can just see Janelle sitting in
• 1:01:31
  a corner like, oh god, this is amazing, yapping ladies talking about
• 1:01:37
  my life. No, thank you, I mean, Christine, if you
• 1:01:38
  want to talk about your life and say all the things you want to.
• 1:01:42
  I don't feel a sense of obligation for Cody. I don't feel loyal to
• 1:01:45
  him, like have at it. I don't care. But I'm just gonna
• 1:01:47
  sit here and drink my glass of wine, thanks yep, and my free
• 1:01:50
  food because I'm sure Christine's paying for all of it or TLC probably wants this.
• 1:01:54
  Yeah, but this whole thing was just hella cringe. And then Cody
• 1:01:58
  called, I know what the hell was that about. Well, I just
• 1:02:00
  heard that she was in town, and I thought, well, I love
• 1:02:04
  my daughters so much away, I haven't seen for seventeen months, love my
• 1:02:07
  daughter so much, so I thought maybe I could see truly. Or it's
• 1:02:12
  your anniversary. She's been gone for a little bit of time. Maybe now's
• 1:02:16
  the time to give her a little ringy dinghy and see if she's open to
• 1:02:20
  some kind of reconciliation. Yeah, which is very weird. But then in
• 1:02:23
  his talking head, bitch, he's straight saying, Christine, he came up
• 1:02:28
  to me, she basically forced me to marry her. I don't even care
• 1:02:31
  that she was. He say that with a straight face out of his big
• 1:02:35
  dumb mouth. But he does admit when she left it hurt a little bit.
• 1:02:38
  But now I don't care, right, I just care that she's trash
• 1:02:42
  talking me. Yeah, like, Christine at I don't know, nineteen or
• 1:02:46
  twenty years old when she met you literally forced you, a grown ass man
• 1:02:52
  with two other wives, to marry her. Like you had absolutely no interest,
• 1:02:54
  you were repulsed by her, you never wanted her, You can't stand
• 1:02:59
  or you hate her, Like, come on, my guy, this is
• 1:03:01
  ridiculous. It is ridiculous, and you had six kids with her, like
• 1:03:05
  you obviously did me to put my peepy my pencil into her. You know,
• 1:03:10
  you have a bunch of babies for me not He is so ridiculous,
• 1:03:20
  but her all the time. Yeah, thinking about Christine, he should be,
• 1:03:23
  but hurt about Janelle. Yeah, oh yeah. But I mean I
• 1:03:28
  don't think he thinks that Janelle's gonna leave at this point. I think he's
• 1:03:30
  still like on the couch. You don't think no. I think he's like
• 1:03:35
  still thinking that she'll come around, because she's left him before. She they've
• 1:03:38
  been separated before, so he's just probably thinking it's like how it was the
• 1:03:43
  last few times. But with Christine, it's very interesting to watch him talk
• 1:03:50
  about this and like say, well, I don't give a shit. She
• 1:03:52
  forced herself into this marriage or it forced me to marry her when just like
• 1:03:57
  two episodes ago, Janelle says that that's common in polygamy, that actually the
• 1:04:01
  women are the ones that approach the men and say that they had a spiritual
• 1:04:05
  conviction to join their family. So Christine did what a good polygamist woman does,
• 1:04:11
  right, goes to your family and says, I feel drawn to your
• 1:04:14
  family. I want to be married part of the part of the father.
• 1:04:16
  And Christine says in her little divorce ex party thing that she knew Cody for
• 1:04:23
  like three years before they ever actually dated. I didn't know that. I
• 1:04:27
  know. I'm like, okay, that's a long time. You can't tell
• 1:04:30
  me he wasn't courting her. He's got he was, he had, So
• 1:04:34
  you trying to rewrite history and frame it like you hated her whole this whole
• 1:04:40
  entire time and you don't care that she left. Meanwhile, you're acting like
• 1:04:43
  a bitch baby on television, whining about her leaving and talking crap about your
• 1:04:49
  family. If you didn't care, why do you care what she's saying about
• 1:04:53
  you behind your back? Why do you care what I care? Because she's
• 1:04:57
  persuading my children whatever. She's making my children feel some kind of way about
• 1:05:01
  me, And so I'm upset about that. That's not what he's upset about.
• 1:05:04
  He's upset that he can't control the situation anymore. She was the first
• 1:05:10
  wife to leave, setting off this event where Janelle ultimately leaves and then Mary
• 1:05:15
  ultimately leaves. So she was the first to do it. Now they're all
• 1:05:18
  doing it. But also I think he's upset because he has historically felt that
• 1:05:24
  she was beneath him to some degree, even though she was the princess,
• 1:05:29
  he felt she was annoying and she was beneath him, and she is annoying,
• 1:05:32
  and she talks too much. Yeah, she's a bit dram malicious.
• 1:05:35
  And so how dare someone who I considered to be beneath me, who was
• 1:05:41
  constantly complaining, making my life misery and I and being a bully and I
• 1:05:46
  put up with so much to be with her, and she's the one who's
• 1:05:50
  going to walk away from me. I think it's pride. I think it's
• 1:05:54
  ego, and he can't control anything, and he doesn't have her money.
• 1:06:00
  And then now Janelle's going and he doesn't have her money. And now Mary's
• 1:06:02
  gonna go and he doesn't have her money. It's only you and Robin,
• 1:06:06
  who doesn't make you no money. And your shit is precarious, my friend.
• 1:06:11
  Yeah, like your shit is shitty. Because once this is all said
• 1:06:14
  and done, and we have the wedding special with David and Christine and all
• 1:06:18
  of the people have dispersed around the nation, is there really any space until
• 1:06:23
  you'll see for Robin and Cody. No, we think Brianna and Aurora and
• 1:06:28
  they're dating Shenanigans or their schooling adventures going to keep the interest of these feral
• 1:06:32
  raccoons. The answer is no. Nobody gives a shit unless you are courting
• 1:06:38
  somebody from Brazil, and we get to see the fallout of that. Yes,
• 1:06:42
  the time, I just want to see you being humiliated. I don't
• 1:06:45
  care about wholesome content which is not real. We have invested so many seasons
• 1:06:48
  and so many years with you guys just lying straight to our face, and
• 1:06:53
  so unless it's true, unless it's authentic, I don't have any interest,
• 1:06:57
  no at all, No do any of it. Nope. Agreed. That
• 1:07:01
  leads us to the preview. This is the season preview. Like the rest
• 1:07:04
  of the season, We've got some interesting things that are going to happen.
• 1:07:08
  First and foremost, Janelle's relationship continues to fall apart. Yeah, looks like
• 1:07:13
  she's getting that divorce. We see Mary in her haunted B and B saying
• 1:07:17
  that this is my safe space. Water up in my safe space, and
• 1:07:26
  she is going to be spending her anniversary alone again again, It's not like
• 1:07:31
  the first time. Yeah, geez, we see that Cody visits Janelle's new
• 1:07:35
  apartment. Thank god she gets a new apartment. It looks nicer, it
• 1:07:39
  looks bigger a little bit. The other one was so depressing, and he
• 1:07:43
  comes to the realization there's just no space for him and his parls whatever,
• 1:07:47
  dude, framing the whole thing for him to be a victim again. Absolutely,
• 1:07:53
  we see Cody saying that there's nothing that's going to separate him from Robin.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah, what that context is, I don't know. We see that
• 1:08:02
  Cody is telling Mary that he has no desire to stay in a relationship with
• 1:08:10
  her out on Coyote Pass. She's looking at him in his eye, being
• 1:08:14
  more direct than we've seen her in a while, saying, I know you
• 1:08:15
  can love me again because you did love you did love me, and Cody's
• 1:08:19
  like, I cannot be what you want me to be. Thank you for
• 1:08:24
  telling the truth. And then Mary looks at Robin and says, this isn't
• 1:08:28
  fair. I've been alone for years and I can't keep doing this. And
• 1:08:30
  this must be the scene where she's like, I'm bouncing, I'm going full
• 1:08:34
  time back to Carowan. And then we get Robin crying my dreams, eating
• 1:08:41
  on the poor heartbreak after heartbreak and why I'm so confused. I don't know
• 1:08:48
  why it's happening. I'm such a good person. Why I know thuck you
• 1:08:56
  and Mary says, screw him, he's not worth it. Yes, ma'am.
• 1:09:00
  Finally based. I can't wait to see that. I wonder if that's
• 1:09:02
  gonna be the season finale that I don't know Hersatian, I don't know.
• 1:09:06
  I'm feeling like if this ends in a month or so, which it's supposed
• 1:09:10
  to, I'm like, oh my gosh, I want so much more.
• 1:09:13
  Me too. I wanted to continue on through November and December. I want
• 1:09:15
  to continue to see it, like, bring us up to speed. Yeah
• 1:09:18
  we're still in's like early twenty twenty two as we're watching this and follow twenty
• 1:09:23
  twenty three. Bring us up, catch us up, to catch us up
• 1:09:26
  please, And there better be some fucking tell alls. I swear to God,
• 1:09:30
  if what they're doing during this season by having these people on their separate
• 1:09:34
  couches listen to each other say shit on the season, if that's there,
• 1:09:39
  that's what they're gonna do. If that's it, and so they're going to
• 1:09:42
  have a tell all. But they have to have a tell all. Yeah,
• 1:09:44
  but they're gonna do it like they did the last tell all, where
• 1:09:46
  they just film somebody first and then have the next person respond to what this
• 1:09:49
  person said. They're going to do it the exact same way. I don't
• 1:09:53
  know why. It would make for infinitely better television if you have them all
• 1:09:56
  in a room screaming at each other yes, or as soon as Robin tries
• 1:09:59
  to lie out of big fucking mouth of hers, Christine be like, no,
• 1:10:01
  bitch, that's not how that happened, and then the producers can actually
• 1:10:04
  play a clip of what did happen? That would be great. Wouldn't that
• 1:10:06
  be awesome? But I'm just worried that what they're doing during the season is
• 1:10:11
  going to replace a tell all, like they're not going to have a tell
• 1:10:14
  all, because I could see them doing some stupid shit like that. But
• 1:10:17
  I don't know. After the uproar from last year's tell all, what do
• 1:10:21
  you think it was sufficient uproar? Do you think got the message? Yes,
• 1:10:26
  people were commenting on Sukiana's Instagram they call They were on TLC saying the
• 1:10:31
  same thing. They were all up on YouTube in the reddit, so like
• 1:10:34
  there was an uproar I just hope that TLC listens to that and at least
• 1:10:38
  gets as a new host. They won't it has a better tell all they
• 1:10:41
  won't listen. I don't need your don't I'm going to be right, I
• 1:10:44
  don't need you. Don't know you listen last time. Don't get your hopes
• 1:10:47
  up. It's going to be bad. It's going to be a disappointment.
• 1:10:51
  It is every single year. The best host that they had was Tammern Hall,
• 1:10:56
  and then she got fired because I don't know she was too direct or
• 1:10:59
  maybe Cody didn't or anymore. Sukiyana sat there while Cody was, in my
• 1:11:03
  opinion, physically aggressive in his body language and how he talked to this woman
• 1:11:08
  who's like a I think a pretty esteemed journalist. Actually like, yeah,
• 1:11:12
  Cody Brown is calling the shots, and I don't know why he's calling the
• 1:11:15
  shots. He literally has no power. The emperor has no clothes. You
• 1:11:19
  can just tell this bitch, if you don't show up for the reunion as
• 1:11:24
  we want to shoot it, then you don't get paid for the entire season.
• 1:11:27
  Build that into the contract, Have him and his dumb mistress sign the
• 1:11:30
  contract, and then if they walk out or if they don't show up,
• 1:11:33
  they don't get paid. What do you think they're gonna do? I need
• 1:11:36
  they're gonna show up, Yeah, if they're not gonna get paid, and
• 1:11:40
  it's in their joke. Yeah, and they need this show more than the
• 1:11:43
  show needs them, for sure, So build out a contract that benefits the
• 1:11:46
  audience. TLC, you despicable corporate entity. Everything with capitalists. We're paying
• 1:11:55
  for it all. Yes, we're the ones watching your dumb ads. We're
• 1:11:58
  the ones who care. So listen to what your audience is actually saying.
• 1:12:01
  Please and that was a lie? Yes, god damn. All right,
• 1:12:06
  let me settle down on the book. All right, so we have more
• 1:12:11
  episodes at least we've got we've got more of a story to tell in the
• 1:12:15
  Sister Wives universe. And guess what, raccoons, we're here for it.
• 1:12:17
  We are. We may bitch and moan, we may complain, but we're
• 1:12:20
  watching every single moment three times, oh yeah, take three times, and
• 1:12:26
  thoroughly enjoying it. We will be back later this week to talk about Plaithville,
• 1:12:30
  another crazy fundamentalist, broken family and also the Last Resort ninety day Fiance,
• 1:12:36
  the last resort filled with upstanding people of great integrity, so make sure
• 1:12:42
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• 1:12:45
  uncensored version of everything on our Patreon. Now, is there anything else that
• 1:12:49
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• 1:12:55
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