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NFL Week 4 Main Slate | September 28, 2025 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Fall systems going clear to the lift of What's up everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Kyler Tamberline here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Week four NFL Show Classic Slate. We've
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  Speaker 1: already got a game going on in the first International
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  Speaker 1: Series overseas, so Pittsburgh Minnesota having it out over there.
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  Speaker 1: But I got Hoopster title here with me. Is always
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  Speaker 1: going to break down all things for the Week four
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  Speaker 1: main Slate, Gonna go through the games, talk about ownership,
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  Speaker 1: roster construction, things that can actually help you get ahead
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  Speaker 1: in dfs and hopefully get to the top of tournament
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  Speaker 1: and ship it. Hoopster, I'll bring you in first man.
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  Speaker 1: We got another fun week ahead, Ship of Games fully underway.
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  Speaker 1: We've got eleven winners so far. We got more coming
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  Speaker 1: out this week with over fifty thousand in cash prizes
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  Speaker 1: a Nation. What's going on, my friend? How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Doing well? We keep moving along here throughout the
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  Speaker 2: NFL season. Like you said, Ship of Games going strong.
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  Speaker 2: We need to get someone to hit on one of
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  Speaker 2: these tickets. I want that prize pool over six figures.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to happen. This week. I think
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna I like the courts post on the site,
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  Speaker 2: the core that's going to go into the contest. I
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  Speaker 2: like where we're at Fingers crossed. We increase that prize pool,
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  Speaker 2: but either way, it's already big. Eighty thousand dollars in
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  Speaker 2: cash and prizes. Good slate today, I think, really good slate.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of different angles, a lot of different ways
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  Speaker 2: to go. I think there's a lot of quarterbacks in play,
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  Speaker 2: running backs, wide receivers, different things you can do with stacks.
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  Speaker 2: I just I think it's one of the more well
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  Speaker 2: rounded slates that we've had. Pricing we talked about before,
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  Speaker 2: we hopped on a little bit better. This week. It's
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  Speaker 2: been extremely extremely soft. Now you're starting to see the
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  Speaker 2: prices creep up a little bit. I'd like to see
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  Speaker 2: them continue in that direction. Got CMC at eighty five hundred,
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, I'm a fan duel. They did
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  Speaker 2: a better job pretty much all of last year with
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  Speaker 2: the pricing, the high volume guys. The prices are starting
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  Speaker 2: to creep up a little bit, so tougher decisions. The
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  Speaker 2: lineups aren't going to look as all starry ish as
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  Speaker 2: they have in the last few weeks, which is good
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  Speaker 2: because I think it brings the skill element and the
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  Speaker 2: roster construction element a little more into play today and
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk through it. A couple of games that I really,
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  Speaker 2: really really like and I think there's unique things you
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  Speaker 2: can do. So excited as always to talk through the
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  Speaker 2: slate and it should be it should be a good
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  Speaker 2: one today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna be great, and we'll I
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  Speaker 1: got the stone up over here, I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: using that. But title, we talked a little bit pre
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  Speaker 1: show man welcome in, and we talked about the stuff
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  Speaker 1: who just mentioned the pricing got a little bit tighter.
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  Speaker 1: But also I think the bigger picture is and especially
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  Speaker 1: because recency bias. But like last week, the one big
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  Speaker 1: afternoon slate game fifty point total, let's figure out the
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  Speaker 1: slate from there and work backwards. This has a ton
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  Speaker 1: of different games on it. And by the way, there
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  Speaker 1: is still a late swap component you want to stick
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  Speaker 1: around for when we get to those later games. So title,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: Back in the back in business, you got the lights
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  Speaker 1: dimmed in the background, so everybody tries to sneak up
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  Speaker 1: the stairs today, we won't see it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little dark.
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  Speaker 4: But I also remember my camera was tweaking. It was
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  Speaker 4: going in and out, so I had to use the
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  Speaker 4: laptop one. But I ordered a new camera, so I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what's going on. It looks a lot darker.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, later on you, it's later on you. It looks fresh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was seven oh four in the morning here too.
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  Speaker 4: Sun's kind of still coming up. So yeah, early football
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  Speaker 4: got up to some craziness with Jalen Warren. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: expect that. So a lot of scramble. Yeah, game well
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  Speaker 4: already got in the box. The sweat for the morning
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  Speaker 4: eleven games on tap next week starts to buy. So
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna start seeing these main slate shrinking. But man,
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  Speaker 4: this is this is a really tough slate. I think
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  Speaker 4: the hardest of the year in terms of I just
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  Speaker 4: I'm struggling narrowing things down. And if you look at
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  Speaker 4: our ownership, our quarterback ownership, we have no one above
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  Speaker 4: twelve percent right now.
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  Speaker 3: That just shows ill spread. It will be.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be kind of like the chalk builds,
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  Speaker 4: going to be like a CMC with those lower ish
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  Speaker 4: mid tier running backs. You can't even spend that tight end.
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  Speaker 4: No one's above six k if you go boers that way,
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  Speaker 4: but your forces spend there, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: are going to spend that quarterback this week because there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of appealing options that allows you to like
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  Speaker 4: not have to punt off a receiver or completely punt
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  Speaker 4: tight end or completely punt running back.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff like that. But crazy things happened. Shout out to.
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  Speaker 2: Sheets last week.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out to Rio last week they did the premium
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  Speaker 4: show over here, but Trey talk like Gino, Trey Talker,
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  Speaker 4: Bowers Jacoby, no runback. Sheets trust his process. Shout out
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  Speaker 4: to Sheets, and yeah, one hundred thousand right almost to
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  Speaker 4: a million. So you never know, any given Sunday, like
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  Speaker 4: we talk about on this show, anything can happen.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we love this game. And when you're just
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  Speaker 1: even learning from that stuff. It's what we spend a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time on, is the process, not the picks
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  Speaker 1: and the plays. We go through it kind of try
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  Speaker 1: and help you get better at dfs and get to
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  Speaker 1: the top of these tournaments. But you know, just some
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  Speaker 1: of the takeaways Sheets lineup last week set me out
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  Speaker 1: feeling even better about this week. I'm still not in
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  Speaker 1: the new might see my hand disappearing. I've got the
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  Speaker 1: green screen in the background. But you know, so do
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  Speaker 1: with some handbuilds and stuff this week and messed around
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  Speaker 1: with not my full setup and it was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: just thinking back to Sheets' lineup, like what are some
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  Speaker 1: of the takeaways you can have from that? So it's
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  Speaker 1: awesome to have guys like Sheets Rio shout out to
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  Speaker 1: them with the Saber series and things that you can
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  Speaker 1: have to just get tips and tricks from throughout the week.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, let's get started. We're five minutes in here, hoop,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick it over to you grand scheme overview
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  Speaker 1: on the slate and then we'll get into the Commanders
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  Speaker 1: at the Falcons. We got the schefter just tweeted it out.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Mariota Revenge Tour right in Las Vegas and
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  Speaker 1: now he's in Atlanta, Like this guy's just making his rounds.
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  Speaker 1: But any other thoughts on this slate and then if not,
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  Speaker 1: you can get us into this first game.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing really additional to add. Just like I said, it
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  Speaker 2: looks like a really strong plate. I think there's game
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  Speaker 2: stack opportunities. The pricing is much much better this week,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of low owned guys that I think are
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  Speaker 2: in really good spots, specifically at the quarterback position well,
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  Speaker 2: that we'll kind of talk about. And anytime you have
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  Speaker 2: a big slate like this, ownership has to get spread out.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a couple of spots where we're going
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  Speaker 2: to see some high ownership and it's the high volume,
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  Speaker 2: high priced guys McCaffrey and Puka, which we'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: when we get to those games. But everything else has
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  Speaker 2: to be spread out to some degree. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: other situations like Scattaboo on FanDuel where he's like fifty
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  Speaker 2: four hundred, like he's going to be massively owned over there,
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  Speaker 2: Hampton on DK where he's fifty nine hundred, he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be owned. So we're talking again a little bit
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  Speaker 2: before the show. But that has to bring down the
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  Speaker 2: ownership on some of these other guys. It just has to.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. So we'll talk about it
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  Speaker 2: as we get in. In terms of the Commander's Falcons,
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  Speaker 2: get the news obviously late in the week that Jayden
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  Speaker 2: Daniels is going to be out, and then Terry McLaurin
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  Speaker 2: as well, and Mariota looked very good in the start
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  Speaker 2: last week, and you know, I think you can play
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  Speaker 2: well today again. But he's not four K last week
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  Speaker 2: he's four K. Now he's five. So the decision's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more difficult. But I think Deebo Samuel is
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  Speaker 2: a really really good play in the slate. If you know,
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  Speaker 2: last week they didn't have to push it much with
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  Speaker 2: the passing. If they have to this week, it would
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  Speaker 2: just have to go to Debo. And then he also
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  Speaker 2: has the rushing ability as well. I think they gave
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  Speaker 2: him three carries last week, so I think he's a
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  Speaker 2: strong option. Zach Ertz I think is fine at forty one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was seems like pretty involved last week.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to verify the targets, but I think
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  Speaker 2: he had a decent number. Well I guess only three,
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  Speaker 2: but three for three. But you never know what these
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  Speaker 2: tight ends, so he's in the mix that tight end.
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  Speaker 2: The Falcon side, I struggle a little bit just because
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  Speaker 2: Pennix has played awful. You know, Drake London's price is
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  Speaker 2: very low. I know a lot of people are going
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  Speaker 2: to want to be on him. He looks like he's
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  Speaker 2: going to be relatively i'd say highly owned. It looks
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  Speaker 2: like probably fifteen to twenty percent range. Like, I'm fine
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  Speaker 2: being under on that. John's another one of those running backs,
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  Speaker 2: and I think his ownership has to just get suppressed
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, So I want to be in on
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  Speaker 2: him at eighty two. I mean, he's priced in a
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  Speaker 2: weird spot where you have McCaffrey above him and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of really appealing guys below him, so I think
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  Speaker 2: he could get squeezed a little bit. Kyle Pitts is fine,
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  Speaker 2: don't really love this game all that much. Favorite spot
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  Speaker 2: for sure is Debo at six K. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: a really good option.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Gentler guy Anthony Massey, always here supporting, says the
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  Speaker 1: Stone likes Bijon, not giving it all the way. But
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  Speaker 1: one note the other thing you want to do with
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  Speaker 1: price as Sabers, so you can check everything out and
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  Speaker 1: get all our stuff kind of included. But Bijon would
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  Speaker 1: look even better if the ownership does moon walk, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know yet because we're not at the slate, but
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  Speaker 1: we're putting our best guesses and everything in around it.
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  Speaker 1: But the thought process for me is to hoops point
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  Speaker 1: that you could see if CMC and Hampton and Scott
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  Speaker 1: and those guys all get the owner I Beijon's definitely
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  Speaker 1: on my list of running backs that I just don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that number holds, and I think it could
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  Speaker 1: come back, and it's specifically in higher dollar or smaller
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  Speaker 1: field stuff or both, So I think that's important to
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  Speaker 1: remember if Bijon could move back. Speaking of Moon titled
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  Speaker 1: there's another moon in this game, Darnell Mooney, and I
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  Speaker 1: think he's interesting as well. My guy Alex yesterday on
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  Speaker 1: the Leverage Lane show made a point for him a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of targets the week before London looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: getting the ownership. There A thousand bucks less could be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ten x less on the ownership for a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Mooney and London unless the game's really going
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  Speaker 1: fully back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen him pull off a ceiling yet, and if
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  Speaker 1: he does pull off a ceiling, it may need somebody
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  Speaker 1: else required in this game that goes with it. So
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  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on this one titled Commanders at the Falcons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of indifferent to it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's getting low ownership anyway, So like, if
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  Speaker 4: you have twelve percent fifteen percent of these guys, you're
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  Speaker 4: kind of with the field. I was expecting Drake London's
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  Speaker 4: prop to be a little better. Only five and a
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  Speaker 4: half receptions sixty two and a half yards, Like, if
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  Speaker 4: that's what he lands on today, there's no way he's
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  Speaker 4: to the optimal. I'm always a London guy, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: with him getting a good amount of ownership in just
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  Speaker 4: eleven games on this slate, there's so many guys like
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  Speaker 4: I like Bijon for sure, but McCaffrey right there, Gibbs
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  Speaker 4: right there, JT. Derrick, Henry Cook. Like it's a really,
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  Speaker 4: really tough slate. I do like if I played Bijon,
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  Speaker 4: My favorite way to do it is to play Falcons
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  Speaker 4: defense at twenty seven hundred because if they get up
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  Speaker 4: three Touchdowy, if it's on Bejon's back and they force
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  Speaker 4: Mariota into clear passing situations, that could be a clear
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  Speaker 4: nuke spot, just like the Mason chalk last week, but
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  Speaker 4: people didn't play Vikings defense. Some spots just feel more
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  Speaker 4: obvious than others. If they can pin their ears back
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  Speaker 4: and getting clear passing situations with no Terry McLaurin, no
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  Speaker 4: Noah Brown, there's a lot of possibility for upside there.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how my favorite way.
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  Speaker 4: If I played Bijon, I do like Mariota on the
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  Speaker 4: other side too, and Bijon could be your running your
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  Speaker 4: run back in that same spot thirty four and a
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  Speaker 4: half rushing props good, He's cheap, and then you can
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  Speaker 4: just play him with one guy Debo, or you can
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  Speaker 4: just play him with Ertz. I do prefer probably skinny
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  Speaker 4: stacking him men double, and I prefer Ertz just giving
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  Speaker 4: that onesie position. He's gonna be low owned. The guy
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of the field, older, reliable, They didn't
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  Speaker 4: really need to throw too much last week, like the
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  Speaker 4: numbers weren't great. But he still likes HRTs in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of the field. So yeah, game I won't have
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  Speaker 4: two too much of but Beijon looks good.
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  Speaker 3: Mariota to Ertz, and I don't hate Kyle Pitts.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, one of these days, I mean the Falcons
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  Speaker 4: got to bounce back. It can't be as bad as
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  Speaker 4: it was last week for him. No one's really playing
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts onesie position. As he finally get eighty yards
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  Speaker 4: in a touchdown. I would take that all day at
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  Speaker 4: this at this price. So Drake London's probably actually at
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  Speaker 4: ownership one of my least favorite falcons, which I don't
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  Speaker 4: say often.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, any any Jalen Lane truthers.
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  Speaker 3: Out there, are we playing Showdown?
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, that's I was gonna ask. We've made fun
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: of this stuff before, but I heard that brought up
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  Speaker 1: already fifty thousand cash alone, plus another almost thirty thousand
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  Speaker 1: in prizes on top, So hoopster, I don't have much
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  Speaker 1: else to add with this one. If you don't have
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  Speaker 1: anything else, we can move on. The next game is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be I guess I'll say one more quick thing
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  Speaker 1: before we go to Bills at Saints. I'll prep you
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  Speaker 1: for it. But you said a key point there title.
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  Speaker 1: There's probably a reason Mariota's got a revenge tour on
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  Speaker 1: six different teams around the league. And if Bijon does
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  Speaker 1: score early, that's one of the times you don't always
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  Speaker 1: need running back with defense. Obviously, last week people saw
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  Speaker 1: the Mason thing and it's been a thing forever, but
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  Speaker 1: that is a case that would make a ton of
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  Speaker 1: sense for it, because if Bijeon gets in the box
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  Speaker 1: twice does his job, that could really be a spot
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  Speaker 1: where we see Marcus Mariota have to throw and he's
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  Speaker 1: already down guys, particularly like you said, like McLaurin and
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  Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So yeah, good good call out there,
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  Speaker 1: Hoop Bills at home versus the Saints, massive team totally
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  Speaker 1: gets crapped up to thirty two in places and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you don't see that very often, and typically
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  Speaker 1: you want to take that serious. But there is other
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  Speaker 1: ways that you know, with all the other games in
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  Speaker 1: the slate, that it could not matter for DFS. But
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  Speaker 1: let's hear your thoughts who bills at home versus the Saints.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I'm thinking about right now is thank god
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  Speaker 2: that Steelers Vikings game was not on the main slate.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine how tilting it would be DK metcalf
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  Speaker 2: Or for one in a touchdown with twelve minutes left
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  Speaker 2: in the second quarter, that would be the ultimate tilt
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  Speaker 2: to start the Sunday Mark building.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have enoughing.
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  Speaker 2: It could be worse. You could be on the main
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  Speaker 2: slate and you could have zero. So be thankful that
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  Speaker 2: it's a showdown and on the main And then another
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  Speaker 2: thing you missed an opportunity tambo. Once we get to
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  Speaker 2: fifteen k it'll be time for that giveaway.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice, he's getting I don't know about that one.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably a reason why I kept that one in
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  Speaker 1: the bag over here. Yeah, he's working on it, guys,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, the Saints and the Bills. I mean a
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  Speaker 2: huge team total obviously for the Bills. Josh Allen obviously
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  Speaker 2: a great play, and then it just comes down to
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  Speaker 2: how you play him. Do you play him naked? You
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  Speaker 2: play with the pass catcher? Kind of probably prefer just
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  Speaker 2: to play just him, to be honest with you, It's like,
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: who do you want to pair him with? Coleman, Shakir
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Dalton Kinkaid. Maybe it's just like King Kaid, but man,
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: he if you're playing him, you want him to be
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: scoring rushing touchdowns, like you need him to score rushing touchdowns,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: So I don't think you have to play him with
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: any of these guys. James Cook is going to get
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: some solid ownership because of this total in the game
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: thirty two, and people view it, well, if it's not
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, it's going to be James Cook. And that's
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: actually been right the majority of the time. So I
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: think he's a fine option. The big issue is the
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Saints side. I know people are like him a lot
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: this week just because of the targets, but man, like
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I always say it, not all targets are created, and
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Spencer Radler is a guy delivering those targets, so it
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: makes it pretty risky a lobve's looking to get some ownership,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I'll most likely be under on him. I think Juwan
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Johnson is fine. But yeah, honestly, like you know, despite
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Buffalo having like a thirty two team total, like, I
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: just don't think I'm gonna have a lot of this
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: one here.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I like the James Cook stuff. I did post it
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: out yesterday, I hope. And I referenced to you from
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the show from last week when you entitled Ron and
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, it was a Shaheed clip, but
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I was talking about how you'd mentioned the Crystal lobby thing. Yeah,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: he might get ten targets, but he has to do
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: something with those targets and they have to actually turn
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: into something versus Shahed and anyone who's a membership a
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: nation and you got the stone if you're on that
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: game and you're following along with us. One thing I
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: like to do, look at the projection, look at the ceiling,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: and then look right next to it at the ownership.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: And that's if that's even close, and it could be.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: And like in the smaller field stuff, particularly larger field,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: maybe it comes down to like fifteen fourteen something on
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: a lobby but it still would be in that similar
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: range for Shahed, He's not that far off. It's it's
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: one target sometimes to Shaheed, right eighty yard bomb plus
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: the catch plus the touchdown, and then later he picks
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: up a couple more passes for the one hundred yard
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: bonus or something that can be huge. And I like
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that thought of having James Cook. Somebody mentioned here Avery
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: said cook with Shaheed. If you want to push Cook,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: that could be a way to do it. I like
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Cook with the Bill's d The other thing I'll say title,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you the you know, the price difference,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: like seventy seven hundred Josh Allen on draftings nine K
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel, he's expensed. I know that you could play
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: almost anyone you want on FanDuel, but I've seen plenty
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: of weeks. It reminds me and you dabble, you know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: for short and jut just dabble, but you're pretty humble.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: God he plays some baseball as well. You see on FanDuel.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: One of the things with baseball is the really expensive pitcher.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Even though it's like he's super expensive, you often see
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: him come through on these winning lineups. I feel like
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: today could be a day where they're really expensive quarterback
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: with Josh Allen just comes through because you can play
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: him naked like Hoop said, or you can someone's gonna
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: build enough to get him right and pair him up.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: But I think it is an interesting spot in thirty
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: two plus team total. That's not something to mess around with.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Usually we've seen it a ton last year with Detroit.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on this game?
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the problem with playing Josh is there's just like
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: do you pair him with someone?
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Does he do with his legs?
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Like is the conc There's just so many things, and
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: then I'm worried about the blow route like everyone is now.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: He can clearly get there in three quarters. It's just
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: an eleven game slate. Even if he gets like DraftKings
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: is pretty tight FanDuel that he has a real price tag,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: you actually obviously have the extra fifty thousand to sixty thousand.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Some of these receivers are completely mispriced, like scat about
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: at running back, et cetera. So it's not hard to
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: get there. I'm just struggling because I don't know where
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: to go after I played Josh to pair him with.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: So I think I'm really just going the lot. I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: definitely gonna be the chalk donkey. I'm playing a lot
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: of a labve. It's just it could be thirty eight
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: to nothing and a lobby might be out there in
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter still getting targets, getting a bump touchdown,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and people are like, oh, chalk donkey, Olave like gets
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: there at the end like that. Yeah, I mean he
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: has four quarters to get there. They get blown out
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: a lot, he's gonna be on the field getting targets.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: So I like James Cook a cook Bill's defense. If
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: they're playing from up a lot, they run the ball.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: James Cook's in that range where he's definitely gonna get ownership.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: But people just can't play everyone. People want McCaffrey up top,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: people want the Hamptons, the Scatabos. There's cheap guys. He's
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: gonna be played. But JT's right in that range, Bucky's
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: right in that range. Genty is cheaper. I'm I'm always
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: worried about ownership, but on this slate, like more than
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: any I'm not really worried about ownership as much because
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: there's just so many good plays in so many games.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: So James Cook, I love James Cook, Olave Skinny Stack
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: and then James Cook Bill's defense makes a lot of
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: sense too. Spencer Rattler having to drop back all game
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: does not sound very fun. So I'm gonna be under
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: on the Josh stuff. It is very very scary. But
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, like there's so many quarterbacks I prefer Lamar
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Like when we get to that game, I just think
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: there's more shootout upsides where he fully gets there and
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: you can't play everyone.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, ask about that.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: You said, you know, very scary. Speaking of scary, I
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: got scary creations. I mean this is a thought for sure,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and Scary's always out here supporting and I'll always push
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: back a little on certain things. But you know, it
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: seems like the blowout scrib Josh Allen just doesn't do
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: much because he doesn't have how do they get to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the blow Like if the Bills get the thirty three points,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that's the case. And then the interesting part, there is
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: a world, don't get me wrong here scary where you
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: don't need any bills. I think there's actually a world
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: where you don't need any bills or CMC and you
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: can just build lineups. Thinking about that and being like, Okay,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: if those guys aren't on my roster, there's a way
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. But it's hard to say you don't
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: need Josh Allen, they're gonna blow them out. And then
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you also don't need Cook because the Saints d held
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: this up like you got to pick a lane on
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: this situation in some way, shape or form, and if
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you got it different, that's great. It's not really just
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: against you. So everybody sees it and hears about it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: But that was kind of the point that Alex made
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: yesterday when we did leverage Lane is like James Cook
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: by himself, he kind yes, he can get two early
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: touchdowns and be good enough at seventy one hundred, but
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: there's he probably needs something to push them. And so title,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. It could be the Choco Lave
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: getting there late or something like that. We've actually seen
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Kamara playing blow outs already get eighteen care four targets
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and whatnot, and another game you had a bunch more targets,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: so you could see these guys come through late in
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: this game. We've seen I think Radler had a three
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: touchdown game I believe in Week two as well. So
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: it's like I will whether or not this will happen
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: against the Bills, maybe not, but I just don't like
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: avoiding thirty two and a half point team totals, even
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: if you don't know where to go. It's like it's
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: just not and who I'll kick it back to you
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: because we're going to the Lions at home and that's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the next game. But the Lions were that team last year.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I almost won two hundred K on FanDuel came up
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: just short and came in third for forty K because
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I just had five lineups in the bigger tournament that week,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I'm gonna use all my
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: tickets on Lions builds. You just don't see a thirty
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: one point team total at home very often. So I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: went with it and ended up working out that could
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: be the Bills today, but we got the Lions with
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: twenty seven of their own team total points implied at home.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on this Lions at the Lions at
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: home versus the Browns.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of similar where it's like a big,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you know, big team total obviously at home, and it's
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: not a spot that a lot of people are gonna
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: go to in the last game. James Cook is obviously
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: go to get some ownership, but that's about it. The
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Lion's similar situation. Not much ownership on the Lion's side.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: They're projected to score twenty eight points. They're in the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Dome where they typically perform better offensively, and it's a
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: spot I definitely want some exposure to. And even Jared
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Guff there is a chance, like obviously we saw them
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: against the Bears run up the score, and I think
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: that was just a little shot at Ben Johnson, but
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: there is a chance like they continue to do it,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: like what's stopping them. They're favored by ten here. I
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: think Dan Campbell likes putting on a show this year potentially,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be in on the Lion stuff. You know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I got to take the big l And you know
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: that's the one thing people in this industry and people
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, it's like they make these these calls and
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: then they like never circle back and they're willing to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: take the L's. I think I have to take the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: l on the Lions, like I you know, after Week
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: one against the Packers, I was very very down on them.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: That appears to be a big mistake, very big mistake,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: because I mean they just went in and beat Baltimore,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: who a lot of people thought Baltimore would be the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl favorites this year. So got to take the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: l They look phenomenal on offense. Really just comes down
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: to can they get Jared Goffs some time. If he
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: gets some time, he's been able to deliver. The problem
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: with goff is when he's facing pressure, So got to
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: be on the Lions. I mean a monro Saint Brown
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: probably like no ownership Gibbs, not a lot of people
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: are looking to play him. I mean he The big
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: difference in Gibbs from last year to this year is
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: he's starting the games. Like last year they always they'd
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: start every first drive with Montgomery out there. This year
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: they're starting with Gibbs and it's not anywhere close to
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty split. It's Gibbs as their primary back.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Montgomery's coming in change of pace and he had a
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: massive game last week against Baltimore, But I think Gibbs
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: is a really strong player this week. Monroe, Saint Brown,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Jamis and Williams should have like no ownership, the port
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: is going to have big games at some point. He's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: a guy I want to keep involved in my player
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: pools each week because, yeah, you don't have to have
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a lot to get way over the field. He's gonna
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: have held, he can make big plays, and he's gonna
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: have a big game as well. So interested there in
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: terms of the brown stuff, probably justin Joko on the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Brown side. Nothing else for me.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a couple of interesting things here.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: And while Gibbs is starting games, unfortunately as a Ravens fan,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I had to watch Montgomery most certainly is finishing games
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: with seventy yard touchdowns to the house just to stamp
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: it and say it's all over. But I think, you know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a manra still heavily involved getting like whatever we see now.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe he gets to ten, but maybe not,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't just don't see him getting
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: any ownership jameson Williams fifty nine hundred. I think he's
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a pretty good spot here as well. So if you
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: wanted to stack that game up, you could. I don't
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: have a ton of love for the Cleveland side. I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: also don't know title what you think about this line,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Like eight and a half is like they just beat
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the Packers like it's you know, the Lions only did
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that stuff because but then the Lions beat the Ravens.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I guess, so that adds to it. Well, it just
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem right. And I know I'm not like a
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: fishy guy. I don't care. I'm just saying it just
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: seems hard to predict. But I could definitely see a
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: world where the Lions just smash the Browns here and
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it's we're not in Cleveland anymore and we're not at
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the dog Pound, and I think the Lions, like Hoop said,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: could just be for real. This offense is incredible when
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it wants to be. So your thoughts on this one?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Brown's at the at the Lions.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: The one concern I haven't I mean, Hoop kind of
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: like when Jared Goff gets pressure, I mean Miles Garrett
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: company in this front seven is very very scary. It's
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: this run defense is very stout. It's a clear pass funnel.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: The defense is good. The offense just can't move like
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I think they will bring pressure to golf if they
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: can't keep them clean.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: That's how this game. Maybe the Browns do cover.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I like Gibbs a lot for that exact reason, though,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I think, like DeMont, I see struggling in this game,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: running up the middle between the tackles. It just doesn't
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: seem like a matchup to do that. So Gibbs in
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: space screens, get them some pass catching. He's minus one
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: eighty to score. I like Lions defense a lot, like
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: if this game goes as plan with how Vegas things,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Flacco dropp him back a lot, or I mean, if
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: it gets out of hand, you never know when Gabriel
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: or their backup's going to be coming in. So Gibbs
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Lions defense another one. I manually bump Gibbs on this
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: slate because he just has to be forgotten. Third highest
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: running back. People are gonna go see Mac and then
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I think they'll go j T and James Cook more
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: for cheaper and again I like both of those guys
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: as well. But in Chalk your builds, I really think
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs is solid. I'm fine with amen Ra as well.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I do prefer other spends. Gibbs is my favorite line
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: on this slate, and you have plenty of like if
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: you do think Lions blow them out or the Browns
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: have to pass a ton Najoker looks good with ownership
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Tillman Judy. I mean, I'm seeing one two percent on
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: these guys, so I'm interested in Skinny Stacks gives my
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: favorite for sure. I like Lions, but a pass catcher
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: on Cleveland. If you think the Lions absolutely blow them out,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be throwing it. We just talked about it
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: with the Lave, like he has four quarters to get
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: there if they're throwing the ball for three quarters almost
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: all the time. I definitely have interest at very low
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: ownership on some of these guys.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Our boy Ham loves Jerry this week and forty nine
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: hunders like you want to run it. He ain't gonna
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: have no ownership, So I think that's something that's interesting.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I guess the more we talk through it and the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: more I think about it, I kind of like a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: couple spots here. I like I already. I like a
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: lot of the pass catchers. Actually like I like Jamanro
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Saint Brown. He's six hundred dollars less than Puka. He's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: not gonna project the same as Puka. That's gonna be
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a full conversation later when we get to it. By
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the way, you're allowed to play both, but if you
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: are looking for something different in that sense, we have
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: a ton of running backs on this slate, but at
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, I think the guys like Nico Collins a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Monro that Nico's coming up in the next game. But
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that's the spots where you might be able to separate
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit and get different. And then Jameson Williams,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: they were feeding them against the Ravens. Then they're like,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: oh wait, we don't need to we can just run
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: all over these guys all day long. But in the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: start of the game they had Jameson rolling early. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: then also I think Laporta is interesting. I think the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: tight end position as a whole, though, is that you
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: got to think very thoroughly about the rest of your lineup,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: especially those of you playing less lineups out there. If
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you're going Laporta, it means you're not going brock Bowers,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you're not going more and you're not going some of
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the other guys that other people are. So I'd want
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: to be thinking about what you're doing instead, because obviously
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a guy like Bauers could you know, have a huge
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: day at the onesie position and hurt your good day
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: of Sam Laporta. But I do think that's at least
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: somewhat interesting to roll that out there. And luckily it's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: not Showdown, so we don't have to say Tesla and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: use that guy at all on this slate here. But title,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I'll stay with you for this one. We will go
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to the Texans at home versus the Titans, and doesn't
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: look like at least a lot of love here outside
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of the Texans defense, which seems to be getting, you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the most love of anything.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense. I mean both these offensive lines struggle.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Cam Moore can take sex, make mistakes. I will say
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I eye test wise, I think cam Ward's been really
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: good for the situation he's been and these receivers can't
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: catch a cold. Last time I said that Johnson had
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: a million points, so I mean it's been these guys
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: have let him down for sure. I don't like this
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: game much at all. There's eleven games on this slate.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I think I can make a case for way more
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: than I typically want too, especially earlier in weeks. It's
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Nico Collins if you want to play him, he's a stud.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Tony Pollard just the sheer workload without spears for his priceday.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: You just can't find like a more alpha running back there.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: The problem is the efficiency hasn't been great. They played
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: from behind a lot. But other than that, yeah, this
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: is probably my least favorite game. I'm the slay both
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: defenses in play, but it's the two chalkiest defenses.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, hoop, I'll kick it to you. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: was gonna say this Ross has been with us for
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a while. I was appreciate, But this is like what
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: we always talk about. This is a prop bet. Then
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: if you can even find the lines for Isaiah Bond.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: But the point, I don't know who that is exactly.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And you know, here's the other thing I got bit
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: by this last week on my words, I'll take an
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Allen circle back. It was Luther Burden the third who
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is much more expensive this week, and we knew from
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the summer and people talking about him what he could be.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, when you're trying to find this, there
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: was I'll tell you what I do the review every Monday,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: there was no Luther burdon lineups to be found, so
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: even if people did land on them, it didn't matter.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Like that's my point, So you just bet those props.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: You don't got to look for these diamonds the rock.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: There's so many ways, especially on this week with tight pricing. Whatever.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Bond has a great game, good call on you, but
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: bet it to make money then, because otherwise the calling
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: is gonna be worth anything. So that's kind of the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: whole point. And so you know if you're even getting
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: anyone there, if you have Judy Tillman and Djoku, there's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: so many other guys. You played Judkins, you could play
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: back in that previous game if you want to get different, like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: there's just a ton of different ways you could go.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That's that's usually not going to be the case. Even
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: if you do get the call right whop, I'll kick
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: it back to you. It's the Texans at home versus Titans.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Do you want to add anything there?
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. The biggest sweat in this game is
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: going to be for survivor because the Texans are going
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to be a pretty popular pick. Outside of that, Nico Collins,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: maybe a little Tony Pollard and that is that's it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: We need part another par m touchdown thing like that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: You remember last year, you don't play just like Tampa
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: was saying about Bond, you bet it and param went
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: for two that day.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: We need a Yeah, that is a good point. Yeah,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I gotta gotta find the random tight end double down.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: We gotta. I'll see if pay and find something for
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: us it can force. It's just got to come naturally.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: It's got to be a natural.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: What about Christian Kirk? Did chat was talking with him too,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: coming back last week getting the eight targets Nico, I think,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: like I said, is great just based on everything he's getting,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: like no ownership. We know this guy is very capable.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: He's five hundred bucks less than Puka. You can play
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: both together as a way to get different. But I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: definitely think that's that's a way to go and just
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: cut into it a little bit. But do you have
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: any thoughts on Kirk? Their title?
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's interesting because people won't want to
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: dip that low receiver if I do. If they do,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I think Trey Tucker will be the most popular. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: like if you are playing Lamar, if you are playing
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, you do have to go down to some
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: of these guys.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Christian Kirk obviously started the year hurt but very promising.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Sixty seven percent of snaps already in week three, like
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: he passed Hutchinson and Hutchinson and Higgins, so he's already
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: the clear wide receiver two for him, the snap should
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: only go up.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I don't hate it one bit.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: He's very cheap so and ownership's really not catching up,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I have no problem with it. I maybe
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: should bump my my exposure a little. I'm just not
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: spending up at QB as much as some other weeks,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: so it's mainly in those builds.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: That's one of the things I was gonna say too.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: But also I think Christian Kirk is one that is
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: fine just getting in there as a one off because
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: he's not the chalk one off or the popular guy
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: at that price range or anything. So if you really
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: got that thought process, that would be someone I would
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: more consider as a one off. The targets are there,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: it's not like they're you know, heavily loaded behind that
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: there're seven point favorite at home. Maybe it's something they
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: do there that you know the Texans are getting. You
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: could try the reverse flip Ross backed in here now
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to switch gears on us. Can I interest you in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: a little Chubb? He wants to be contrarian and I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: like this one more than the Bond call because the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: thought process there is, like it's the flip of Jones
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: last week, where you cut into him with by playing
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: his defense. The way to cut into probably the most
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: popular defense on the slate would be to do it
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: with Chubb or I don't know, Like Woody Marx was
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: getting carries too, so who knows what's gonna be.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Woody Marks almost out like it was a close to
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: fifty to fifty. I think Woody Marks before you know it,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: very well could be this week's the starting running back,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: like I starting, meaning like a split. But I I
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: don't think Chubb is. I think Chubbs kind of passes
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: his day unfortunate knee injury, and Woody Marks is the rookie.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: So I have a really hard time playing Chubb. And
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to say that because now he's gonna
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: nuke well.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you should get the props up.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's our double dong. Woody Marx steps in and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: takes two. Imagine what the odds are on that. See
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: if you can find it while we're going to hoop
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: here on the next game.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I'm just kidding to plus two to fifteen for one
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: plus sixteen hundred for two.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Plus sixteen hundred two. Woody marks touchdowns, mark it down,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: marks it down.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Mars.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: All right, let's see, all right hoop Patriots at home
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and you were talking. I know we're integrating a mini
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: things betting and Survivor. We got some bond best ball takes.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can get everything into the show if we
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: want everything outside of our realm. But I think this
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: is the way scarier Survivor game because people are definitely
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: going to Patriots for sure, for for good reason. And
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you know double pick leagues, particularly like we have over
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: at Splash. But may Henry titles boy booty booty cheeks there,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: kay Sean. And then the other side is I believe
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: it's everyone's good, right, we got the new are we
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: waiting on Hubbard?
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: We're good?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good. Yeah, uh yeah. Another appeeling game for Survivor.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, you get the Patriots at home against the Panthers,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: who I guess.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Give all the secrets.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Huh secrets. It's like the Panthers up until last week
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: like one of the worst teams in football, and then
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: just put that absolute beat down on on Atlanta. So, like,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I still don't think they're very good in terms of fantasy.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I like Drake May, but the only problem I have is, like,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: if you play Drake May, who are you gonna pair
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: him with? And the answer to that question for everybody
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: is going to be Hunter Henry. So like the Drake
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: any majority of lineups that have Drake May at quarterback,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming also have Hunter Henry in there. So you're
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: kind of doing sane, which is fine. I'm gonna play it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I like it. I think, you know, Henry's been essentially
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: wide receiver one in this offense, so I'm good with it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I'm good with May. I like him. I like Henry
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: pass catchers, not so much the running backs. I mean,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: everyone's still trying to make this Henderson guy something. I mean,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: maybe it'll eventually be him, But they still have Stevenson.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: They still have huh.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Two touchdown prop look it up? Title all right for
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Henderson Anderson?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah way plus twelve hundred.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's better than Moody marks at sixteen like.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: These are plus one plus one eighty to score.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Gosh, these books we keep talking about, they just make
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a killing. They make a killing on everything. Don't get
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: me wrong, but these touchdown props, what's so? What are
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the odds for him to score two touchdowns.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Plus thirteen hundred? That should be like a hundred.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: That should be like fifty to one or something, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: they're paying like ten to one. Like it is wild,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: wild wild. But on the panther side, I'm still going
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: to play this Tet McMillan guy. I know we talked
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: about the you know, athletic body and whatnot. You know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: we've made some jokes about that in on him. Prices
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: is low and really low, I believe on FanDuel still
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: it is fifty eight hundred. That's very very cheap for
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: this guy. Like that's a strong, strong play over there.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I mean nine ten eight targets. He's averaging nine targets
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a game. So I am. I'm very interested in him
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: over there on FanDuel.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gonzo back, you know that's a posted. I like
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the Patriots d for sure. You know they're back. He's
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: their thirty one hundred. The spread doesn't move very often
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: for defenses and O Lineman and D Linman and people
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: coming back in. But with him coming back, I thought
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: for a defensive player. That's kind of interesting, and I
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: know Ham was high on that as well, shutting down
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the big body. But there was a body shot last week.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I forget who it was. Who there was like man
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: and just grow man stuff, and it was like, there's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that body. But this interesting spot, I would say with
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the May Henry stuff, I'd want I'd probably want to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: put If I'm doing that, I probably want to put
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: genty or something into the lineup, just to slice it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Because if you're not if you're playing Henry, you're not
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: playing Bowers. And if you're not playing Bowers, let's try
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and get some of those in. You're not on Geno
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and you're not on you know you can, you don't
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: want to chalk it up even more necessarily with Myers
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you can't, and then get different elsewhere and we'll get
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: to that game later. But I don't think enough people
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: think about it like that. And that's certainly a spot
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: on this slate where I'm thinking, if this, then that,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: if Henry's going to do his job today and beat
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: a guy like Bowers out of that position at the
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: onesie spot, I'm thinking, where do those points come from?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: In Vegas? If somewhere so that that's something i'd be
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: thinking about. Title. What do you got with this game?
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I like your thought process on that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Oh Man, the Henderson Stevenson, I mean Gibson, like he
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: gets carries too. The problem is Gibson and Stevenson can't
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: hold on to the ball at all. Trevian Henderson can't
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: pass block, Like there's some problem with all three of
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: these running backs. Henderson's by far the most explosive. After
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Stevenson fumbled, he took over. But I mean Vrabel's already
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: saying like it Drake when Drake May fumbled, or something
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: like are we gonna bench him? No?
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: So it's just a mess.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I keep playing Henderson, he keeps doing nothing. Now he's
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: gonna get not any He's gonna get a little little
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: ownership five point two k. Like people just don't need
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: to go that low with scatbow with Hampton. If they do,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: they're gonna go there. Honestly, don't love it. I'm most
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: tilted because last week we talked like, if you're playing
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Drake May, who do you play him with? And it
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: was like Hunter Henry the onesie position probably his best target,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: but then he nukes and out.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: He was what two percent or something. Now he's gonna
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: be five x that. I don't know. That's that part
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: just tilts me a little bit.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: So I'm fine with Drake May he as rushing upside
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: twenty five and a half rushing prop May to Henry,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: but it's like, am I chasing? And then I feel
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: that way a little bit with the raider stuff, like
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I like it again, it's in a good spot, but
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it feels like ownership. It's a little
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: more esteem than it otherwise would have if they didn't
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: see what happened last week. So other than that, Henry
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: and May, though I really don't like this game, Munch, I'm.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Gonna stay with you in just a second. And you
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: mentioned Scatt who were going to that game, just so
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you already giants at home. But just to note, like
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: what you said too. And I do this a ton
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: with my process. Not this week's been a bit of
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a shit show with everything trying to get out to
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: this new office. But I will say when I am
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: building out fully, That's what I've tried to explain to
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: people and help them learn, is like you know, May,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: if the May lineups feel good on paper and you
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like that, then yeah, you're gonna want those in your portfolio.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: You're gonna run them out there, or sometime's just gonna
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: trust it and run it. But the other thing is
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: if you're building out lineups and you don't like how
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: those lineups look or feel that, even though you might
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: like May and you understand that it would work well
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: with Henry, if you don't really want those, it's sometimes
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: easy to make a cut in your portfolio. If you're
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: just saying, Okay, I'm out on that quarterback, then I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: don't want those builds. I'll get different somewhere else and
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: pick it up that way, because I think you made
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: some good points there about the overall of the builds.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: They kind of land you in the similar running back spots.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: It kind of lands you you can easily Pooka and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Myers and the kind of combinations that people are all
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: building around. So do you really want those types of
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: builds in your portfolio or that? Then do they get
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: too far off the path once you get crazy with them?
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: And that's when sometimes I'll just scrap them completely. So
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: kick it back to you. Title anything on that, and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: then Giants at Home versus the Chargers getting into last
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: two of the morning games here as well.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I just hope people like a lot now
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: that a lot of people like have our starter pack,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: our core and they're trying to mm me, maybe it's
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: their first year doing it. Definitely watch the premium stuff
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: with sheets and rio. But you always say the tighter
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: you play like, I mean, I forget what you're phrasing.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Tighter.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, Like you can make cuts you
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: need to, especially again if you can build twinter fifty
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: teams or five hundred, not everyone is on ultimate building
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: five thousand. You should start to shrink it a little
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: bit so your pool looks more how you want it,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: and then you can narrow stuff down here and there.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: So very good points this game. I absolutely love the
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Chargers Giants game. I mean, are people kind of forgetting
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know, forgivings right where? But Herbert had one
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: pretty down game still gets there in the fourth quarter.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: It gets like eighteen nineteen. Quentin Johnson's been amazing, Keenan
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Allen keeps getting there. Now there's no Nase Harris. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: think Hampton's very, very strong. One of my favorite running
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: back plays on the slate, Like this summer he just
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: exploded in the best ball streets his ADP. Now he
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: has no competition behind him. I love love this spot
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: for a lot of Chargers. On the other side, you
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: do have Scatabo, he's gonna get ownership, but Darts he's
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: shown to be low own it only forty five hundred
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: with the clear pairing in Neighbors. There's just so many
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: ways I can go about it. I want a good
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: amount of Chargers. I want to be overweight on this offense.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Herbert and this offense can move the football. I don't
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: think Giants defense is very good. If that means Dart
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: has to play catch up. Neighbors could get fifteen targets
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: in this game. I'm definitely good with Scatabo, but I
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: prefer Hampton. Like they're both showing pretty good ownership. Something's
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: worried me a little bit about Scattabo.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to He's fine, there's nothing, there's no
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: doubt about that. But I really like Hampton in this spot.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I really like the Chargers offense in this spot. And
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: if you want to leverage off of some Hampton chalk,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Herbert Keenan Johnson do it that way. So so many
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: games or so many ways to play this game. I'm
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: gonna have a bunch of it. And yeah, I don't know.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: If you guys saw Jackson dart, yeah we're gonna get
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: there Tampa then.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But do you guys believe anything nowadays, it's already
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: been proven it was fake, Like it's just photo shots.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I just don't look into stuff enough. I'm just like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: all right, I move on.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: It was hilarious, like a Jackson darts. It looked like
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: his ig and so they posted it up as if
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: he had took a picture of Madison Beard and say
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: game day tomorrow, baby or something like that, like he's
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: all excited and it's got Herbert's woman, But he ain't
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: doing that. I don't think so anyway. Maybe I mean,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: like it said, it was fake, But I'm also I
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: don't think many NFL quarterbacks are going that far to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: make that shit happen just to you know, for one
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: game tomorrow. But I thought it was funny. But I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: will say, did you see Scat's chain? He got?
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Is it just like a diamond chain that just says
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Scat in all if I win the Millionmaker today and
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: it's got Scat on the team. I'm getting a tambo
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: chain exactly the same as his, and I swear it's insane.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he's interesting. He's another one like whoever who
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier? It was Ted, who's a hundred bucks cheaper
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: on fan duel with ten k more who that's Scat.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: He's a hundred bucks cheaper. Gotta look for ways to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: get different. But I think the biggest way for me
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: in this one, and title was sort of hinting at it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: You know, you can play Hampton and Scat together or
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I really want to overstack the Chargers side. I don't
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: think you'll play six guys from the same team on
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a main slate. I think it's got to be like
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: a two gamer like we have on Monday. But I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: think you can at least play five, and I really
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I'll play Hampton with Herbert McConkie, Alan Johnston, Gadson.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: This whole side of this stack. I'm definitely stacking up
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: as a way to just everyone else. Got Scat is
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: like the sweet little value play. Yeah, let's get Scat
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: neighbors Wandale. It's jamnus, Like, this is the spot that
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I want to get involved with who what's your thoughts here,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Chargers on the Road against the Giants.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think really really good game. There's like four
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: or five really really good games on the slate and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: this is one of them because I just love these
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: games where you can play so many different guys on
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: both sides at multiple positions. So for me, both quarterbacks
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: in play here, I want a good chunk of each
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: of them, Herbert and Dark. We have two very good
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: running backs. I think very good running back plays in Hampton.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Scataboo again Skataboo on FanDuel. The price is insane, like
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: fifty four hundred. They let their pricing out before that
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Sunday night game and before he kind of went off,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: So he is super super cheap and gonna be popular there.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: You have three wide receivers on the Charger side, and man,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I keep saying, it's got to be a LAD sort
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: of day. It's got to be LAD because Keenan Allen's
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: gotten it so far this year, quinnin Johnson has gotten
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: to this year. The game's coming for LAD and I'll
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: be there for it for sure because I will be
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: over weight on on Lad and other guys too. I mean,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I want all of them. Conklin cheap tight end on
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the Giants side for the pass catch. You've got Neighbors,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: you got Wandale, not really a tight end that I'm
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: interested in. But the thing that I'm most excited about
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: with the Giants is Russell Wilson was fucking terrible and
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: now there's like hope that this offense is going to
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: be productive here. Yes, Russell Wilson got the job done
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: against Dallas. As defense, their defense might be one of
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: the worst in the league in terms of covering the past,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: so I'm not giving them any credit for that game.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be amped up. I think
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: they'll be able to move the ball here a little bit,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be a high scoring game.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I like the you know, we're not, like, you know,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: big on giving sports betting takes. I like the over
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: in this game. I think it's a high scoring, potentially
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: back and forth sort of game. Now, you know, final
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: scores is gonna be like thirteen to ten after I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: said that, but I think we have a chance for
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: a high scoring, back and forth game and a lot
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: of pieces on both sides. I think the overstack here
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: is in play. Tampay kind of alluded to double stacking
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: with her love that call and you have, you know,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: one or two run backs on the other side. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: think it's a good game to kind of go in
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: on and hope you get a you know, thirty five
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: to thirty sort of game. I think it's possible here.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I alluded to quadruple stacking with Herbert just as
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: an added reference, because it's like, I think that that's
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: the interesting part is a lot like it's this is
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: one of those what I call him like I was
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: trying to think of a better word, but like the
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Penthouse situation, the levels to it right where it's like, okay,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I got a many people are Hampton or Scat. I
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: like Hampton better, okay, fine or Scat on FanDuel because
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: he's cheap or great. I'm gonna play them both together
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: because I think that's gonna be a different way to
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: do it, and most people don't. True, you've moved up
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: a level, like that's a different thought. But now it's like, oh,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna use Herbert with mconkey and Scatt. I'm gonna
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: stack this game up, and it's like all of you
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: go to bed and stay on those lower floors when
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: this game just goes off completely and you got three
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: guys right in the game, but you need five from
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the game or six. So will it happen? We don't know.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: That's why I have a portfolio. Like Hoop said, it
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: could end up being thirteen to ten and the whole
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: goes to bed, not just the lineup South Sophomore earlier
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and it's over. But I don't think many people are
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: gonna be stacking Herbert with Hampton with Scatt in the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: same lineup, and then other stuff that goes on. And
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: like Jason says, there's a conversation around this in a second,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have I'm gonna stay on this game for
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a second, but not necessarily because there's like this, Just
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like Scarry said a trailing script, Scatt could catch ten
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: balls in that spot, Wandale could start catching ball's. Neighbors
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: could be involved. Maybe Dart wants to make neighbors his
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: guy early, who knows. But the other thing is, if
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: you think that's a possibility, this is definitely a situation
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: to me, and not the same ownership levels as Mason
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: with the Minnesota d but the one thing I love
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: about a rookie quarterback like Dark coming in is it's
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: like to replace Russell Wilson, like Hoop said, like they
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: are not going to be coming in taking it easy,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: like they want. They're doing this to see what this
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: guy has. So, if you want to play Hampton with
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the Chargers D, the Chargers D are one hundred dollars
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: less than the Texans chalk and it's like a real spot.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Like even if Dark could throw two interceptions, they're not
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: gonna bench keep rolling, Buddy, Let's see what you got
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: like we've seen it. I use this analogy yesterday, the
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: baseball pitcher comes in, highly touted prospect, gets on the mound,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: first game, Bang, welcome to the big leagues, Buddy Otani
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: boumb outside of the stadium completely. It happens that could
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: happen to Dart today or he could be good, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that pushes this game even more. My lineups will be
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: cheering for that. But if not, I'll definitely have Hampton
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: with the Chargers D. So I think this game is
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: one of the most interesting of the morning. I don't
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: know title if you've got any more or Hoop, you
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: guys want to add to that one, but if not,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I think this next morning, the last game of the
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: morning is also super interesting with Jalen Hurts on the
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: road going into Tampa Bay. But whoop, anything else you
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: want to add there? If not, I'll let Title take
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: it over. I thought you were gonna say Solva all right,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Title all good man? Anything else to add?
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: If not?
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Eagles at the Bucks excited for this one as well.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not for DFS. I really hope it doesn't get there.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: I'd get yeah, Jalen Hurts all that. I'm not really
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: spending up that quarterback too much this week. Lamar is
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: my favorite if I do so. Like last week, if
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: you played them I first half you were kicking yourself
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: so much, then they absolutely nuke in the.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Second half, which, yeah, you can. You can play a J.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Brown, you can play Sakwan, you can play Hurts. It's
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: an eleven game slate like at the end of the day,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: we can make a case for every single player if
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: we really wanted, and I'm not going to do that though,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to take some stand that's really hard for
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: me on this week. This is just one I'll be
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: off of pretty much the whole game. Bucky Irving would
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: be my favorite play.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, our guys Sheets and Rio do an amazing job.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: And this week they talked about a ton of different
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: things like this concept but a title being you know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a long time Saber super easy yourself, Like, what's what's
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: your I've got a different thought on this, But what's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: your take on the correlation sliding bar?
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: To use it?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Much of that?
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I My take is Saber Sim has put in so
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: much work and back tested and done all of that,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: whereas I do not do that. There's other things I
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: spend my time on them trying to outsmart Saber in that.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: So I do not change anything for any sport.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And whop you Obviously I saved you for this because
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you obviously you know all about their corel in Saber Sim.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: That's that one you a million maker in a particular
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: spot like that previous game we just talked about where
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: you just overstack it. Are you using this and adding
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to it at all? Are you do you do anything
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: different with it?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd change it a little bit, like if I'm
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: getting just a lot of QB plus one pass catcher
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: and nothing else, like I'll go in and bump it
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit on those weeks if I notice that,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and then I you can also just go into the
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: stack exposure and then just bump up some of those
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: situations a little bit so you're getting more of it,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: like QB plus two with two run backs or QB
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: plus two with one run band. You can say, I
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: want ten of my teams to to look like that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Is that the correct answer? I don't fucking know. I
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: have zero idea, but that's you know what I do.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Like if if if I had the exact answer to
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: it all, i'd you know, you'd be winning six figures
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: every single week or winning the million maker more often.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's just something I do to
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: if you're handbuilding, obviously, you know it's easy to kind
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: of do that stuff. But in regards him to say,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: in regards to the Saber situation, yeah, I'll messed with
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: it a little bit if I'm just getting a ton
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: of QB plus one and like nothing else. But I
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: also agree to TAMBA or a titles point as well,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: where they've put a ton of time and back tested
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: this shit, so they're definitely probably uh well, they're definitely
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: smarter in terms of what the winning lineup should look like, yeah,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: the tool is.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Smarter for sure once you do that. I like actually adjusting.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't get to my full process this week because,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: like I said, what everything going on here? But I
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: will not one thing I've been messing around with that
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I like is just adjusting the team totals instead of
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: trying to mess with them. And we already have a
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: great base when you take ship and nation projections and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: our ownership is strong, and you've already got that built
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: into your your optimizer with Sabersim. I can't say it enough.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: It's been said by sheets, it's been said by others,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: like it's a Ferrari. You still even if you're trying
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to drive fast, you still got to put it. Where
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: you're going is the GPS, the directions. You still should
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: control your situation. If you put five chefs in a
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: kitchen and you give them all the same ingredients, some
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: people know how to elevate it better than others. They
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: are making changes to the recipe. We have a good base,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: taking our projections, our ownership, which are already the sweaty
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: tryhards working on these things to make them as solid
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: as possible. But then in Saber. You can adjust for
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: what you want and I'll let Saber do the correlations
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and figure the rest out. But if I think this
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: game is going to score more, I am going to
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: add to these two team totals and then hopefully see
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the combinations that it gives me because that will auto
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: boost those projections for each of those players, and then
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: do the rest of the work for me from there.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: So I think that's the best way to do it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: You can do it yourself if you want to test
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: it out. If you want to be a member, go
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: to ship at nation dot com. You can get the
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: first month with starter included for ninety seven dollars instead
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: of one thirty nine as it says on the site.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: So just click the monthly and you'll be in. I'll
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: go to you hoop titled and have a ton of
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: interest in this game. What's your thoughts on the Eagles
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: at the bucks here? Jalen Hurtz did put up like
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: thirty last week when nobody wanted them, but it still
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't really wasn't required based on the rest of the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: guys that came through on the slate. Any thoughts on that?
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had the big game last week week,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, like he's going to be very
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: low owned, Like if people are spending at quarterback, it's
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, it is Josh Allen. You know, I'm building
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty teams, Like I'm gonna have some hurts,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Like he can win the slate easily, and he's going
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: to be very very low owned. So I'm in on,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: you know, him to A. J. Brown or him to
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard. The one thing that kind of surprised me
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: on the slate, like Mike Evans getting ruled out. I
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: thought for sure Abuka would be very very popular on
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the slate, and it's not looking like that, which is
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, somewhat surprising to me, Like what do
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: we showing we're shone, like four percent owned on him.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I believe four or five percent in that range. I
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: guess we're a little higher, like six of the industry
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: is between like four and seven. I thought for sure
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: people would be playing him with Evans out, so I
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: want to be over I do want to be overweight
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: on him multiple touchdown upside. I like Bucky as well,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna be in on this game. A
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: little bit more, just because like if Bill one hundred
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: and fifty teams does not take, it's not going to
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: take a lot to get overweight on this spot. And
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: you know, with the low ownership, like you don't need
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: to worry about anything in this game in terms of
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: being popular. So I do like the spot a little
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: bit more.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, we'll get to this game in
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: a bit ross, but one hundred and one slates and
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: counting Buddy still waiting for that Mahomes classic slate bag
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: to come in, So get in line with everybody else.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I will say to Jason here like this I think
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: is the thought process to this game. I also think Hoop,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: you made a really good point there about the Bucks
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: side of things. We actually got the news pretty early,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: but it was like the thought process around all the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: other stuff with Baker and with all the other guys,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: with the Evan stuff, it just made people just not
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: really be comfortable with this spot. The Eagles have actually
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: given it up against the run so far. If we're
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: going to stay up for other teams, I think Bucky
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: can move the pace in this game at sixty nine
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: hundred and this would be another thing I talked about
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: earlier with the people's complaints of the Josh Allen spot
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: and my take on the Mace spot. If you don't
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: like the May lineups because of how the May lineups look,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: or if you don't like trying to figure out with
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen almost mahomes like situation where if it's like
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: really hard to pick Peg who he's gonna be passing to,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: you might like more condensed offense where even if it
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't work out, at least the lineup's made sense going
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: in of Hurts, brown Smith, Goddard pick two. If Barkley
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: beats you, he beats you, that's you're always gonna have
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: that flip flop. But in that situation, I just passed
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: to brown Smith Goddard pick two, and then you can
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: run Agbuka or Irving or whatever you want on the
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: other side and just hope that if this is a
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: game that gets sped up quickly and gets back and forth,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: you could see some of this come through. So I've
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: got no problem landing here. If it's Goddard in the
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: lineup with like DeVante, Smith, Hurts and a Bucky on
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: the other side, just build accordingly around that. But I
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: think that's at least somewhat interesting. All right, hitting the
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: afternoon games, we have four really good games still to come.
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  Speaker 1: Breakdown ten am Eastern reviewing all of this week's results,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and then hoop Title and myself for a two gamer.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: That's another thing about this title mentioned earlier. We've got
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: the buys starting next week. We've got the International game
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: two Gamer tomorrow. Kind of spread it out, but they
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: gave us eleven really good ones on this slate, So Title,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: let's get to these final four. And before we do,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I think there's definitely a late swap conversation to be
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: had because it's no secret at least, you know, to
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: most if they're looking at anything out there that the
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Bears Vegas game does have some ownership surrounding it. It's
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: not like it's crazy, but I'm saying it's not like
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: last week with Chicago Dallas, but it's definitely got ownership there.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: And if you miss on things in the morning, I
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: think you really do got to be considering this Colts
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Rams or this Ravens Chiefs or whatever else it might be.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: So what's your thoughts on the late swap before we
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: get into Colts at Rams.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I also think this game gets ownership too, like
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: I do think the Vegas Bears game, and then I
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: think it's this game. Then if you really need to pivot,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: you've got that Chiefs Baltimore game. Again, a lot of
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: that just has to do with like spending up like
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Henry Lamar, people don't really want to go all the
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: way up there. So definitely, Lake SWAP's really really big.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: It's big in cash games, it's big in tournaments. It's
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: if not only if you're blocked out. Of course that's
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: big in cash games, and that's the obvious part, but
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: raising your min cash value and Saberson takes a very
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: good account into those things. So I love this game.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: There's so many ways to go about we're talking colt rams.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Right, Yes we are.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean Pukah's gonna be one of the
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: highest one on the slate. It's really hard to argue that.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: Like last week, again it was similar to that Eagles.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: That game ended up just exploding. But Puko's doing nothing, nothing, nothing,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: and he just finishes with a quiet twenty seven. Easily
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: could have had more. One of the best receivers in football.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: They're gonna get him the ball, Davante. I would say pivot,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: but he's not even a pivot because he's getting ownership
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: at only sixty two hundred. I'm not worried about whatever
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: that weird quote was. I think he's gonna play normal.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Kyron's the pivot, like the passing game is getting the ownership.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: You either go Stafford, which is a way to get
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: different in this game, or you go Kyron, which pivots
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: off of Adams Pooka and hope Pie falls in the
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: box twice.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: That's why I build a portfolio.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: But I almost want to be overweight on all of
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: these different options because I love the runbacks too.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: JT.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Tyler Warren. Now we got no h Alec Pearce. The
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: downfield guy a Donnie Mitchell is gonna step right into
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: that role. It could be one play, sixty yards touchdown
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: for him, very very cheap at three point one k.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: There's like almost no one else viable in my opinion,
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: in that range besides him. So Pittman downs. We really
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: haven't seen this Colts team trail so. I mean, the
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Rams are the best team they've played. But if the
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Rams get up two touchdowns and Danny Dimes has to
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: drop back in clear passing situations, downs in the.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Slide track the record, come on, go back, Come on, pennies,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: come on, we've made it. We've made the official change.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Take alongside.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Who's going to get a chain if he wins the million?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Dame? If I win the million, I'm getting the dollars.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Dollars, the O L L A Z dollars.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, be perfect.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, pitt it.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have so much of this game again, fifty
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: six hundred dollars, fifty nine hundred Stafford. Playing Stafford is
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: different because you can, like people don't want to play them.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: They'll play Pooka by themselves, they play DeVante by himself.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: They won't play them with both of them.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Tyler Warren feels like probably the best point per dollar
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: tight end, just really really strong. I mean his role again,
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: he's got He's been very solid in games that they
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: haven't needed to pass at all, and I think this
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: game they will need to be passed. It probably will
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: be trailing a little bit. I might have the most
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: exposure to this game of any on the slate.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to bring up a couple of these
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: comment because they're getting good. Now we're getting late in
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the show. It's like the US getting their ass blown
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: out in the Ryder Cup once. Like it was all
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: tame until they started losing and then all of a sudden,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the fans are off the hook. But the Kansas City
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: cheeks is a good one. I think we might have
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: heard that in the past, but just bringing it back
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: is always fun. So I like that. And then you know,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Nate saw that these quotes that come out are hilarious.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Like Godwin will start and play a lot. Well, if
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: he starts, I would hope you would play him a leg.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: If he's gonna play, you would expect you play your guy.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Chris Gowin I get so he comes, He's just I
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: get that he's just coming back, but still that would
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: be the case. And then Josh the ultimate Fanguy Fanguy
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: says Kieran, and the rams D that's a way to
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: get different on this slate. But this hoop, as I'm
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: kicking over to you, was the other one. I don't
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: believe in this. I could be wrong, but I think
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: with CMC ownership, with Hampton, with Scat, with some of
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the others stuff that gets spread out, will we really
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: get JT at like twenty to twenty five percent ownship?
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe because of the Puka stuff, but I actually think
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: people are more likely to play Pooka with Warren or
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: something along those lines. And then we also got Pierce
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: ruled out a couple days ago or whatever, so that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: brings guys like Pittman downs the Donna Mitchell into the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: into the fold at cheaper prices. So what's your thoughts
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: on this one?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Hoop?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Colts at ram it's the.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor stuff. I mean, I think it's probably more
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: like fifteen percent, and like does that really even move
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: the needle? Like if everyone thinks it's twenty and it's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: actually fifteen, is it like substantial enough to change anything.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: My answer to that is no, I mean he's gonna
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: get owned, but I think it's more like fifteen range
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: instead of like twenty twenty two. But again, I don't
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: think it's substantial enough. There's no way he's gonna get
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: up to some of these other guys though, like McCaffrey Hampton,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be less. Definitely would be less than
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: James Cook, so you know, he probably comes in like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: fifth high stoned running back. But this game is I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: thought title broke it down well just so. It's a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: phenomenal game for fantasy. So many different levels, Like if
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: you're stacking the quarterbacks, you have a lot of guys
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: to play them with, and then you have a lot
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: of runbacks on the other side, like if you're playing Dan,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: if you're playing Dollars, Danny Dollars, and you pair them
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: with a pass catcher you obviously have, you can go
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Puka DeVante, Adams Kyen or multiples of those guys. This
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: is a game I definitely and find game stacking. If
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: you're gonna, you know, look to game stack. I think
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: this is a phenomenal one. If you're off the passing stuff,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: you have two very good running backs and Jonathan Taylor
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: and kyn Williams, and you can do even further correlation
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: like the comment in the chat about playing the defenses
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: with them as well. But yeah, I'm gonna be in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: on this one, very very heavily. You know, the Matt
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford stuff. I was a little hesitant to play,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna. I'm gonna be on the Stafford stuff
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: as well. I mean, if you're gonna be if you're
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: making one hundred and fifty teams and you're heavy on
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: basically all these guys, like I think you got to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: include Stafford in there as well. And you know someone
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I think it might have been Dre doesn't look right well.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I mean he's damn near I think forty years old,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: so he's probably not gonna look right for the rest
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: of his career. But you don't have to be perfect
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: when you're some of the ball to Pooka and DeVante Adams.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: That's the that's the main thing here. So I'll be
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: in on this one all sides of it. The QB stacked,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: the running backs, just every part of it looks very
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: very tasty here.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: And this is gonna be part of the late Swap
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: conversation because Title did bring up a good point, and Title,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I'll go to you now it's forty nine ers at
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: home versus the Jags. I mean, I don't much more
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: to add on that previous one if I missed it
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: it So I'm in on the Stafford side. I'm in
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: on Taylor with that Anksy lower owned than we expect.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I think if you're going to a Donna Mitchell at
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: thirty one hundred is just fine downs, you know, split
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: the difference, Pittman. This game I'm on, but late Swap
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: is going to dictate a lot of what happens, because
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: what I was gonna say is you nailed it well.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Someone said, like everyone in the Afternoon is owned. It's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: just not true like in the first game. It's actually
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: this game has picked up a ton of steam in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: this game. We're about to talk about it's McCaffrey, maybe Pearsol,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: but then you got those other guys in so not
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: really and so probably a little bit on Ricky p
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: nobody's on any Ravens, nobody's on any Chiefs, and even
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the guys like Genti, Trey Tucker, DJ Moore are being
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: kept in check and Rome is nowhere near like last
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: week because now he's up to sixty three hundred, so
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: it's not even the same. So I would argue that
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: not everybody's owned. In the afternoon, you may actually have
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: to pivot off the Colts Rams stuff if that becomes
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: a thing. So your thoughts on that, and then Jags
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: at the forty nine ers are up next, with the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: big conversation being CMC.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see it the same way that this Colt
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Rams game is gonna get ownership right rightfully, so, and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: then the passing attack for the most part on that
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: Chicago game. These other two games just won't be And
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: I prefer San fran and Jacksonville a pivot to Baltimore case.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: I think in the sense of again it's just so
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: much cheaper. I think Perdy would be my favorite quarterback. Like,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: if you have Geno, Caleb is gonna get ownership. Dollars
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: in Stafford won't get too much, but the more the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: pass cutchers will like, perty's the pivot if I need.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: CMC is gonna be really popular, rightfully, so you can
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: easily play per with him. Forty three and a half
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: receiving prop for Christian McCaffrey. That's the same as Juwan Jennings.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Like just insanity to see a running back with that
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: receiving prop that much volume full point PPR. Just keep
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: playing him until, I mean, hopefully it doesn't get hurt.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: But that's always the biggest concern with McCaffrey. If you
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: need to pivot off on McCaffrey, you want to again,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: you can play party with them, But Juwan Jennings and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: Ricky piersall aren't really getting ownership. They don't break the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: bank in terms of pricing. This Jaggs defense isn't very good.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: That if I need to pivot off as some contrarian
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: thing off of the caliber, the gino or whatever, I think,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: perty in the passing game would be my favorite way
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: to do so. And you can leverage off of McCaffrey
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: if you don't want to play him. The other side,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know is Brian Thomas ever gonna get right
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day sixty one hundred. If
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: I'm playing CMC, he's a way to get different in
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: the skinny stack. He can push this game a little more.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: If you're playing the party in the passing game, he
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: can do it he's showing like five percent. I'm fine
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: getting that. But I do like Breton Strange a little bit.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: Just a tight end, the onesie position, like no one's
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: gonna play him, not no one, but thirty two hundred
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: people prefer Hunter Henry, there's Brock Bowers or just people
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: will play whatever tight end that's going with their quarterback.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: Strange when I like see them see a lot, and
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: I kind of like the pass catchers a little bit.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: He's an easy way a runback. I think they'll be trailing.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: I think they'll throw the ball. The targets have been there.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: It's not an exciting play, but it's something that easily
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: five catches fifty yards in a touchdown, Like I mean,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: I'll take that all day.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I like.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: I like this game a little bit compared to ownership,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: and I could be way overweight when it's all said
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: and done. Like you said, late Swap, I don't no
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: one knows how the lineups are gonna look. I don't
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: know like what the late SWAP's gonna give me and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: stuff because I don't know where my lops will be at.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: But if I need to get different, I think this
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: is the game I'm going to get different at.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and one side, what's the BTJ to touchdown? We're
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: getting most realistic on this slate because I know we
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: were you know, Woodie, you know these guys are a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: little bit aggressive. You know the Henderson maybe not that aggressive.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: But what's BTJ plus thirteen hundred? So Henderson's Henderson slightly
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: and more likely to score two touchdowns than than BJT.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: If they're up early, it could be because of him.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: If they're down, it can be a spot for him.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Like that's I don't know how this People just think
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: this guy sucks now, Like again, it's three weeks in.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: He's had opportunities for days, and I don't think that
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: this is like a spot to avoid. So I liked
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: your strange call. I do have I know a couple
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: that I did handbuild out with Lawrence Thomas strange. You
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: know that's in a lot of it's in the slate
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: planal word sriper nation. But as a way to get
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: different with the McCaffrey stuff, I think if you all
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: got to build around it, but you're gonna be able
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: to late swap as well. So again, Trevor, Lawrence sucks,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: BTJ sucks everyone knows this and never play them right,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: but four weeks in can definitely be a thing. And yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: like our girl, Kim, she's a she's a Jags fan
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: if that's a real thing, and it sucks to be that.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: But having problems to drop so far this season, Yeah,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: until he's not right, like we know, and she knows this,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's exactly that. So I think he's interesting.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Sixty one hundred, not that much more expensive on FanDuel,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: but you know on DraftKings sixty one hundred, I think
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: he's more than fair.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Woop.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, I want to ask you, this is what
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say earlier before I get to you
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: on this game, is another guy that, like Nikua who
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: was in the last game, you could just see like
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: one of those twenty four point games, right, And then
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: is it really is there other running backs for cheap
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: or different builds or stuff to get it there, or
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: is it just that he's that safe that it's just
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you'll find a way to get different or just use
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: them and get different elsewhere. How do you feel about
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey and the rest of this game?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the role is just absolutely insane. Like
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: he's putting up wide receiver one numbers from in terms
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: of receiving and then still has the upside the Russian touchdowns.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: It's like it's it's wild the combination that you get
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: with him. I mean you're talking game one nine receptions
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: seventy three yards, six for fifty two, ten for eighty eight,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: and then he's still getting he's still getting like fifteen
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: to twenty carries. It's absolutely insane the role. I mean,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: he's RB one and then then there's a gap after.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: So just phenomenal play in all formats. You know, tough
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: to knock that. The brock Purty stuff very cheap on
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: FanDuel under seven K, like sixty sixty six hundred. He'll
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: be pretty popular over there because of that price tag.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: But the nice thing is the pass catchers aren't coming
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: in with much ownership because they're kind of questionable coming
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: into the week. Piercel and Jennings, so like both those guys,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: strange is fine. And then like talk about this sometimes
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: in PGA dfs, like if you've been playing a guy
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: all year and he's been sucking, like you might want
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: to just you know, stick with him, especially if he's
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: an accomplished golfer. Same like to me, like Brian Thomas.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: If you've been playing Brian Thomas, you just have to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: continue to be in on Brian Thomas. And I've been
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: playing them since day one, and obviously it has not
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: been good this season, but I'll continue to play him
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: because I want to be there. Dude has upside, big
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: time upside, and he's going to be very low owned
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: this week and the price is as low as it's
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: ever been, so I think it's a good time to
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: either continue playing Brian Thomas or kind of get on
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the train here today. So I like Thomas a lot.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, remember I always talking about it's a LATESW opportunity
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: for you. If you're needing a late swap in the afternoon,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: that's an opportunity that you can move to. It definitely
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: looks good in some places, and I think that's interesting.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I like to call it on the purty side to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: hoop if you can me, especially on FanDuel. Again, you're
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: kind of making a decision over there. You can play both,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: but ninety four hundred for PUKA, ninety three hundred for
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: CMC over there on DraftKings with the full point PPR
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: and the only eighty five hundred price tag. There's a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: ton of lineups you can fit them into, and you
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: don't need anybody from the Jags side. But if you
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: want to build differently or late swap to that, I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: think that's something that's at least interesting, and so does
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: the Stone and other places think that as well. So
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: one thing I want to clear up. The chat brought
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: up and said where was it here? Because we're getting
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: in the next game a title I'm coming to you
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: in the second Chiefs at Home hashtag never mahomes, but
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: somebody had said it. I'm just trying to go back
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: and find it.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: It's just not right.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this one. There's an article from an hour
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: ago that says he went through Chris Jones went through
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: the walk through, went through the team walk through on Saturday,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: flew out to the funeral, has the family funeral Sunday morning,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: and we'll make it back in time for the game
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. So expect him to be in there. It
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything necessarily versus the other stuff, which is
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: anyone thinking that he's out. Doesn't look like that's going
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: to be the case. It was only an hour ago.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: That this news finalized or came out, but kick it
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: to you man, It's definitely another Lates opportunity. There is
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: like no ownership in this game, and obviously you could
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: see either way. But you know, I think people are
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: scared with these quarterbacks because it always is hard to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: stack them up. That's that's the tricky part. Yeah, it is.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: I mean it's tied for the second highest total on
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: this lay at four day and a half.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: With no ownership. We do play a salary based game.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Obviously, I do like like the point to be in
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: on this game is I really like Exavier Worthy being
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: back for the one play sixty yards, speed up the game,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: just just get it moving. So if I am stacking
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: this game, like I think, he's my favorite one that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: I just want in the game because on both sides
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: it can really help Mahomes, it can really help Lamar.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: I'm really not getting too much. But again, neither his ownership.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: I'll let you talk to Mahomes stuff. So and my process,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: he was popping a bit. I manually lowered him down
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: because I am on the same page with you. You
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: can play him with Hollywood, you can playing with Worthy,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: you can playing with Kelsey. If I'm playing Mahomes, I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: would pick two of the three, and again I definitely
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: prefer worthy of all of them, and I'd pick one
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: of the other ones, and then you have clear runback
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: if you want to go Zay Henry, I guess Andrews.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: But it's just so expensive when you're doing that. So
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not finding myself on this game much at all.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: Again, if I'm spending up at quarterback and I'm not
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: considering Mahomes to spend up quarterback, he's only six K,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: which is cheaper than like, way cheaper than Lamar Allen,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: et cetera. If I spend up I said, I want Lamar,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: and it probably bes with Zay, but I'm really not
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: getting to that.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm not.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Spending up at quarterback really much at all. So I
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: don't like this game much. I'm worried Derek Henry gets there. Yes,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: I'm worried worthy that it's eleven games on the slates.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: So as of now pre late swap, I do not
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: have much.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about like how it goes. I guess
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: the one thing I always say is like the hashtag
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: never Mahomes is for a main slate this is a
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: main slate. The thing is after the morning and you
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: have to make your decisions and your late swaps. It
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: turns into a short slate and you have answers. You've
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: got the answer sheet for the morning. So it's certainly
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: not a cop out like Alex was trying to sell
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: me on it yesterday saying it's not the same Mahomes
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: he's running more all of this, But I still see
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Gibbs and Montgomery run all over these guys. You got
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt and Pacheck. I don't care if they suck
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: or not. Don't have your own opinions. There's nothing to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: do with DFAs. It's just opinion. So they could just
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: try and run. They could try and shut it down
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: that way. Keep look, you know, if you're not taking
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: the page out of what the Lions did. Last week,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: everyone talked about Lamar's bad game and not being able
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: to do much. He can't do much when you're not
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: on the field for eleven minutes of a drive. So
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: a really good idea is to run the ball short movement.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about guys like people are talking about
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Worthy in taekwon, which we love Taekwon on that showdown slate.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: But for Kelsey, I think it could be a situation
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: at forty eight hundred. Just move in the chains. It's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: already a good spot going against the Ravens. Just move
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: those chains, move those chains. What if he gets you
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: eight catches for one hundred and a touchdown, that's gonna
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: be a pretty good game at forty eight hundred. I
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: like Nads's call. The Zay one off, I think is fine.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Or even if you got to make a movement in
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: the afternoon, nobody wants Ay all of a sudden, I
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: think this is a great matchup for him to go
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: get it back. And we didn't see him he was
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: He was transparent on the last slate, right, you couldn't
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: find him, And now all of a sudden you could
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: put them back in here against the Chiefs on a slate.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: So if you want pieces of this game, I've got
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: interest in that. And if I'm stacking early before the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: slate starts, it's on the Mahome side because it's just
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: it's with Zay Bateman and maybe even a little Andrews
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: after what we saw last week the resurgence, but not
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: super high on that either. So who what are you
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: doing here with this one? Man, I know you like
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Mahomes on most slates, but six K he's more than
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: a fair price and he has been running more. You
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: were all over that last time.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I guess like a little bit
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: because of the rushing upside. I mean I don't love it.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I mean the two reasons I'm gonna play some Mahomes
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: is the rushing stuff and then he gets Worthy back
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: as well, and I think that is important. I do
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: think on the Baltimore side, you know, the Derek Henry
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: fumble issues, like does that lead them to like maybe
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: some more passing stuff. So I'm kind of gonna play
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: into the Za Flower stuff. I mean, he looked phenomenal
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: was that Game one. I mean, they have to get
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Zay Flowers to ball, and I think they do today.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: So I really like him in this game. Andrews was
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: solid last week. I think he's fine. So there are
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: some plays here, and again nothing's going to be super
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: popular either, like just looking at this, like, besides, the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: core are going to get some, but nothing else should
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: be substantial ownership. So uh yeah, I'm going to be
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: in on it both sides. More like the passing stuff,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Like I guess the Henry conversation is pretty interesting, Like
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: he's definitely a guy that's gonna get squeezed today, Like
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: no one's gonna want to play Henry after primetime fumble issues,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Like I'll have some of him. Let me see what
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: we're showing.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Let's get tired of pull him up. He's got it there,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Let's find that headwork.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: Ye're touchdowns are.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Curious on what is what's his rush yards and then
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: touch anytime touchdown?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: And we're showing eight percent ownership. I think it's probably
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: closer to like five or six with all the running
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: backs that we have, So you can get overweight on
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: a guy that can score three touchdowns by playing maybe
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: seven or eight percent. So I am somewhat interesting. Yeah,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I'm still in on on on Andrews, like he's produced
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: with Likely you know in there as well, and I
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: think they do kind of ease Likely back into the mix.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: I'm still fine with some Andrews. But yeah, it's a fine,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: fine game.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: I guess minus one fifty to score, plus three sixty
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: to score twice, eighty four and a half rushing prop.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Eighty four and a half and minus one fifty like
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: that's again and seventy two hundred on DraftKings FanDuel. I mean,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: you got to make a decision. Nine cases getting up there.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: You've got McCaffrey for three hundred bucks more fan or
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: DraftKings thirteen hundred dollars cheaper. Again lates opportunity. If you're
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: on McCaffrey and everything's dead from the morning and you're
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: trying to jam this thirty to forty percent on running back,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: that just doesn't make any sense. So that's where you
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: got to just make a decision. And you know it
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: can be scared or whatever. This that the defense, the matchup,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Jones actually playing still, et cetera, et cetera. You just
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: can't really focus on that stuff too much. You gotta,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: you know, build it based on what's already happened and
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: what's in front of you. You got to be playing
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: at the highest level. You can't really dwell on the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: other stuff. So I guess that's interesting. My thing is like, yeah,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: if you know, even if you just go here for
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: some one offs, I think Kelsey Flowers, if you want
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: to put them together, by all means, I get what
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: people are saying, like Thornton getting loose all this stuff.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: There's opportunities for anybody, but it's it's it's way more
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: of a late swap option for me than it is,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: you know something, I'm super excited about going in. I
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: also think we could see these two defenses just show
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: up as well. Right, It's it is possible that you know,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: have been bad so far in some cases, but that's
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: when stuff flips. Right. We see that all the time,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: where the expectation is this and then it's down here.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: We could definitely see that as well. Talked about already
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: with Adam that Chris Jones looks like he's gonna be back.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: He says he will be anyway in time for the game,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: so we're not gonna be missing him. And then the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: only thing I'll add the final part of it was
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: the Andrews likely thing is it's not really because Likely's back.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I actually just think like the Andrews game could just
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: be an anomaly, like he's been so bad.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: We looked it up.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: The Discord was talking about it last week when we
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: went to the game. It was like a ten games
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: in a row where he did absolutely nothing and then
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: he showed up for a game. So it happens good
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: for him. Hopefully he's back. It'd be amazing for the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Ravens and me as a fan. But I'm just I'm
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: liking Zay, I'm liking Bateman, I'm liking Jackson, and then
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: you can mix pieces in on the other side. But
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: that's kind of how I'm seeing a title final game
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: of the Slate Raiders at home versus the Bears making
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: good time on this show today, But this is another
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: one to talk about here, and like I said earlier,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't look quite as popular outside of Myers some other
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: you know, pieces are getting sort of that secondary range
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: of ownership, but I'm not seeing a ton of like
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: this is the game everybody's stacking like last week when
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: we had Chicago Dallas.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I think a lot of that has,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: like Raider's side will definitely be more popular, and rightfully so,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: because when you play Caleb, it's obviously a duneesa. Caleb
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: has rushing upside. But I do struggle like I don't.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: I'll throw I've been throw it right back to you,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: to both of you on this for Caleb stuff. Are
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: you fine just skinny stacking? I'm just going Caleb at
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: Dunesay if Caleb's on the winner tonight, Like does he
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: bring someone else along with him or does he like
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: need a rushing touchdown, which at the end of the day,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: I'll look at the odds when you guys are talking
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: But I don't think he's come on plus.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: Four hundred, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: like DJ Moore, I'm not cold. Comet's fine, but I'm
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: struggling with how to play Caleb. I really like the spot,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: I really like the offense, but I don't just know
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: if I love just Caleb Aduonzay and done.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: Any thoughts on that.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: I think it would be like for me, at least
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you could just go Caleb Comet and Done and then
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: not try and figure out those other dudes and fill
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: in with some of those pieces, because those guys, like
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I know you probably don't even let you said it
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: more burden with the payups. So it's really odonsay is
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to figure out here, And Odunzay's sixty
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: one hundred. You could have Brian Thomas Junior for sixty
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: one hundred.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: You can give me fine just going Caleb Comet. You
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: think there's pass where that Caleb's on the winner with
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: just Comet.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Well we see, yeah, Like I think it's a possibility
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: that you can fill it out with other pieces, but
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: you got to know what you're doing in that spot
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: once you go Comet at the min always got the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: min twenty five is three k flat. It allows you
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: to build out the rest of the lineup any way
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: you want. There is actually potential. I know, we talked
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: about how good all these games are and then I'll
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: kick it back to you, but there is a potential.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: And I never will say this on any given slate.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: It's one way or the other, but my point being
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: that this could be a lower scoring slate and you do.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: And also you got to think of how the owner
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: being built out. If Puka and CMC, who are very popular,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: have just their twenty five or twenty four point games,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: that's going to bring down the overall of the average
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and whatnot as well in most cases. So in reality,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: there is a possibility that you just fill it out
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: with sealing options everywhere else, and that's just the one
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: that you hope he connects with, and the other guys
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: just get spread out too much and they're not needed
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: at those upper price tags.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: Now, Oh you made me feel little better.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: If you're a good going Caleb Comet, I'm definitely fine
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: just going Caleb A dude's day, So I like the spot.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like a dude say's ten percent, eleven,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: twelve percent after like everyone just has wanted to play
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: him and I get replay a price game, but I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: mean a lot of his games. It doesn't matter what
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: price he is. He just fully gets there and the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: other side, Like, I mean, it's crazy Week four, the
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Raiders of the Chalk of the week, it's not just
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: one like Jens's getting ownership, but there's a lot of
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: good running backs, but Jacoby a lot of ownership. Trey Tucker,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: you have like if you want to spend a tight end,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: there's only one option. And if you even want to
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: consider a spend for five point ak Rock Bauers. I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: really like Tucker, I really like Jacoby, I really like
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Genty and just by de Fault. I'm gonna play a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: lot of Gino because there's so many different ways you
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: can play Geno. The one guy I think that's really
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: interesting this game that I can't see getting much ownership
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: is DeAndre Swift and you can do that and see
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: can catch passes. I want to look at his touchdown
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: prop plus one thirty five, which is solid, but running
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: he just has to get lost in the shuffle. People
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: love this game. They're going to the passing stuff. Maybe
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: if this game bust, it is a DeAndre Swift or
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: a Genty. So if I'm not playing Jacoby Tucker's of
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: the World, I think playing a Genty or playing a
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: Swift and just hoping that's how this game slows down.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: It doesn't completely get there is one of my preferred
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: routes to go. I'll have a lot of this game,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: but again late swap stuff with the ownership it has
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: and in a vacuum, I honestly prefer the Rams Colts
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: game in the afternoon to this one. So the Trey
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: Tucker deep play and Jacoby just a great PPR guy
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: for fifty four hundred will lead me to playing.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: A good amount of them.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: But I do like I've struggled on this, but I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: think Genty and then Swift they're probably my favorite ways
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: to go about it.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: I just hope.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, they got to get Genty the rock, they
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: got to get him going, and there's no better matchup
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: to get him going if he gets there and scores
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: two touchdowns, Jakobe Chalk Tucker getting some ownership Bowers like that,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: that can all busts because of one guy. So there's
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of leverage that genty gets you even at
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: some ownership.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: What what's the brock Bowers two touchdown prop?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: Rock Bowers two touchdowns plus eleven hundred, Okay, but he's
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: plus one sixty five to score normal.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: It's insane that, Like that's like what who was saying earlier?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Like this sixteen hundred on like Woody Marks, Like you
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: can get like twelve to one on on BTJ or
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: like eleven to one on rock Bowers. Whatever you want
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: to look at like plus eleven hundred just to say it,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: like it's that's kind of point where yeah, it's it's
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: crazy these numbers. But who what you got with this
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: one here? I think the gentee stuff is, like I
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, some thought process for me when you're not
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: on Bowers. But I really like brock Bowers either. I mean,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: we're we're waiting for a rock Bowers breakout. It's got
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  Speaker 1: to be in a spot here at some point. The
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: guy's just too good not to, but I haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: it yet. So what do you think Hoop Raiders at
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  Speaker 1: Home versus the Bears, last game of the slate.
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  Speaker 2: Uh the breakout games coming today? I think I think
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  Speaker 2: Bowers goes off today and you don't know who's the
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  Speaker 2: backup Myers or Meyer, whatever his name is, like, he's
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  Speaker 2: he's out Mayor. I believe he's the guy's name. He's
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  Speaker 2: out Bowers. He was a little ding dup last week.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's fully healthy, fully ready to go. I
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  Speaker 2: think this is the spot uh for for him for
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  Speaker 2: sure today. I love this game. It's my favorite game
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  Speaker 2: on the slate. I mean I like some of these
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  Speaker 2: other ones too. I like Colts Rams game, like I
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  Speaker 2: like Chargers Giants. This is my favorite spot. Like I'm
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: good with Caleb and a variety of ways. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine playing him with Comet like you said at DUNS.
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  Speaker 2: And I still like DJ Moore. Like DJ Moore, I
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: think still has something something there. And you know, it's
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: been all of Donsday so far this season. I think
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  Speaker 2: it could easily be a DJ Moore sort of game.
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  Speaker 2: So I have three pass catchers with Caleb I feel
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  Speaker 2: comfortable with, and then on the other side, like the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I like Gino, Myers, Tucker, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: Bowers I think goes off and then both running backs,
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  Speaker 2: Like Gent's gonna have a big week at at some point,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: and why not now, I mean the talks good around
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  Speaker 2: him getting more work and the matchup is really good
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: at home against Chicago, he could have a big game.
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  Speaker 2: Then Swift is one that's gonna go pretty low on.
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  Speaker 2: So I like that call from title, but I really
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be all over this game. And like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I think the it's it's Bowers explosion week this week,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm hoping.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where like if you go like this is
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  Speaker 1: the interesting part is everyone's on Geno, everyone's on Myers,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: everyone's on this. What if you run like and Rome's
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: being kept in check? But do you have Geno, Trey, Tucker,
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  Speaker 1: Bowers and Rome on the other side or whatever you
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: want to do, Like that's not that crazy, Like it's
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: not it's not that super owned and it's not playing Myers.
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  Speaker 1: I like the Swift call earlier too. There is something
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: interesting about Swift where if you think about this, if
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: you didn't play scat early one hundred bucks less you
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: have swift in the late like that could be something
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: that really hurts him later on if he gets involved
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: and is used and without lovelin and other stuff there,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: what if he is getting the checkdowns or something like
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: that too. But again, Comet three k, it's not really
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: a big deal if you land on that as a
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: way to you know, cut up your Caleb side, Caleb Rome,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Comet Tucker, Like, there's tons of different ways you can
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: get different and I will use Bowers today at fifty
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: eight hundred in two tight end builds. Also, I should
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: note that as one final piece just to to bring
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: it up there title Any final thoughts from you man,
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  Speaker 1: anything else you want to add for this one.
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  Speaker 4: Well, just on that two tight end build stuff, Like
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: I know a lot of people some people like how
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: do I x out tight end in the flax and
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: saber and this and that tight ends are two tight
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: ends is very viable on this lad for the reason
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: that pricing got a lot tighter. And like Tyler Warren Nadjoku,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: Bowers like handful these guys you can just call him
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: a receiver as well, like they're Hunter Henry. I mean,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: these guys are wide receiver one or one options in
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: their offense for some of them, and they get price
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: discounts compared to some of the wide receivers. So I
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: think that'd be a mistake doing that, especially with slates
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: like this when pricing has got a little tighter. But yeah,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: it's a big late swap slates, and I mean we're
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  Speaker 4: not going to be talking eleven game main slates for
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: a little while after this one, so ownership completely spread out.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: If you really like a spot, even if it's a
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: McCaffrey or a Pooka, it's not hard to go completely
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: overweight if that's what you want to do. So hey,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: enjoy the best days of the year, always on Sundays,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: So enjoy talking. Let's win some money and the Packers
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  Speaker 4: get to beat down on that poor poor Cowboys defense tonight.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'll hope it. I love that I actually
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: use them on one of my main survivor squads, just
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: because I have the way I used other stuff earlier.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: I couldn't get to and I don't want to play
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: all in Houston this week. I don't feel as good
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: about that, so I've got them on the other ones.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, one last thing, this stinks, Like I hate
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: touching on defense. I pretty much let it do its thing.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: The Lions today, and it's the only defense I'm manually bumped.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: I'm manually bumped yibbs and Lions defense. But if they
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: get a lead and pin their ears back against flack
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: or whatever backup comes in, that's the That's my Vikings
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: call of last week. So that's all I got. Usually
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: I hate touching on defense. They're so volatile. You can
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: defense can be awful, but the punt returner can have
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: a touchdown or two and the defense gets there without
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: their defense doing anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, super high variance. But I think it's also a
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: lot of the times where people look at it like
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: how did this person have a crystal ball? But it's
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: like it's all leverage that's baked in. Like if you
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: land on the Rams defense today and like nobody's on them,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: it's because you didn't want anything from the war and
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: the Jones, the tailors of the world in that build
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: that would be a way to get there, And people like, oh,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: how did they know? They didn't They just knew it
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: would be leverage, and that's a move that you're gonna make.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: And the same thing I talked about earlier Hampton while
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: you know, people are choosing to meet him and Scat
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: playing both overstacked again, we are too, but in other
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: pieces of my portfolio, I was talking about this portfolio manipulation.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna manipulate it so that I have other ways
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: to make it happen for my lineups in my portfolio.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: And that would be if the Giants aren't coming through,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: maybe I've got Hampton with the Chargers d with DeAndre
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Swift later and I'm thinking about, Okay, most people are
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: putting SCAP, but then they're not going to have this defense.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm covering that off and they don't have any correlation
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: to each other, but they have a lot of correlation
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: to the slate that we're playing. So just a different
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: way to think about it.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: Hoop.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts from you. I got a comment here
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: just I had a thought, But anything else from you
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Slate, like send the opening It's a good one. Pricing
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: is a little tougher. I'd like to see some of
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: these price tags continue to move in that direction, like
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: the high volume guys like the Pukas and the CMCs
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: of the world. I mean, probably get them closer to
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: ten thousand at this point. But we have a lot
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: of solid plays, a lot of solid games. I think
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: some sort of game stack takes it down today. So
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try to incorporate that when I build
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: my teams, like I do think we could see like
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: a game stack, an over stack situation take it down.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: So built accordingly.
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