Latest / Archons Corner / Keyfore OP and Vault Tour Plan Are Here
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- 0:19All right, but what's going on? Everybody? I am one the only
- 0:23the w oh okay, I joined by the normal cast investments. We got
- 0:27big Z, we got the Ewakis of hell Okay for community. Glad to
- 0:34be here with some news. The choke show himself, myself, yea in
- 0:41the flesh, and the resident pH D of O P doctor sheep. Yeah,
- 0:49so we do have news and finally finally coming down to the very I
- 0:58was getting there. Holy can I do there? We're kids, We're excited,
- 1:02I mean there yet clearly not but you know, yeah, there's old
- 1:08P news sheep. Just give us the old news. They announced the vaults,
- 1:15all right, show down, have a good, a good good thing.
- 1:21They announced it with plenty of advance warning, way way way in advance
- 1:26right now at KFC. Right, that's where we just came from, right,
- 1:30Yeah, that's definitely. This is definitely like December one, Yeah,
- 1:36twenty three. It is actually because because my pre release kit didn't arrive in
- 1:41time, so I couldn't do the pre release this weekend. I mean like
- 1:45you and most everyone else, but yeah, I didn't get to do a
- 1:49pre release. But that's because we didn't have any That's that's even worse.
- 1:55This was at least not think Gg's fault. This was asthmade being stupid.
- 2:00Wow Asthma Damasma day. But we did get some dates for the Vault Tour.
- 2:07Start preparing everybody we already knew about. April fifth, the seventh,
- 2:09and Roseville, Minnesota at the Games Enter. May third for the fourth.
- 2:15Try again, I'll get it out. May third through the fifth in Rochester,
- 2:21New York. Wow, new York at most games. Nice so no
- 2:30hotels this year? Also, right, that's like his hometown. That's his
- 2:35backyard. May twenty fourth through the twenty sixth, San Antonio, Texas at
- 2:39Shenanigan's Sports and the GA. Mm hmmm, so is key Forge now in
- 2:50Esport? You were just gonna do TCO? Yeah, was playing. I
- 2:55got it. Yep, yep, we got a weird to have a land
- 2:58party. TCO bring weird desktop at your CRTs. Here's where it kind of
- 3:06breaks off from the huge June fourteenth through the sixteenth Glenn Bernie, Maryland and
- 3:10games Star. That's Baltimore. It's two East coasts. Yeah, it's kind
- 3:16of strange, like we don't we're usually lucky to have one East coast Philly
- 3:23was your East coast last year. Yep. And now you're getting in New
- 3:27York and a Maryland there you go, Fuck you, California, Hell yeah,
- 3:35jar and apparently the Southeast, who seemed to be more upset of,
- 3:40at least in our discord about not getting a vault Atlanta or something. Yeah,
- 3:47brob twenty four people that live there, nobody wants. Who wants to
- 3:52know Atlanta in summer? Atlanta has a really nice actual group. So the
- 3:58playgroup there is pretty Atlanta in summer. Yeah, it's gonna be hot.
- 4:05I mean Roseville in winter. I didn't say these idea keep going with this
- 4:14one. I didn't say these ideas were good ideas. I'm just saying I
- 4:17don't want to go to Atlanta. I mean I really don't want to go
- 4:20to San Antonio. May twenty fourth to the twelfth. Actually, come on,
- 4:25dry, right, you're not gonna be outside. What are you gonna
- 4:29run a marathon? Come on? Did you forget that? It will be
- 4:32fun? It will be fine? And then July twelfth of the fourteenth,
- 4:35this has already been announced via this podcast. Las Vegas at the right.
- 4:44But yes, yes, yes, for the Patreons and now everyone else We
- 4:47already figured that out because she just decided to email every hotel that had a
- 4:51vault to her last year, which which was amazing, I guess for those
- 4:56of you who are not on the discord and are not a Patreon's debscriber.
- 5:01Yeah, doctor Shape was like, you know, getting nancy about not knowing
- 5:05anything. So we just emailed all the old hotels from last year, and
- 5:09the Vegas one respotted with the block code true. Did you guys read the
- 5:13paragraph that falls below that though for five locations for twenty twenty four retailers,
- 5:20we believe that key Forge has been and always will continue to be best when
- 5:25played at local game stores. Our hope is that by holding these events at
- 5:29store locations will revitalize the local communities to get involved with their local stores long
- 5:32after the tour has ended. I e. Hotels were too expensive, Well,
- 5:39I mean it's still hotels, right, but the convention centers are too
- 5:42expensive right hotel calls, Well, we broke that down. Yes, even
- 5:47the location where we had done live at has increased in price to five grand,
- 5:51and that's from Milwaukee. Like, no, that I agree with this,
- 5:56So that it's extremely expensive to be going to these venues. You gotta
- 6:00watch that. Meanwhile, Magic was turning people away in Chicago because they were
- 6:05at capacity. But I digress. I mean yeah, like you gotta place
- 6:15your position to where your game fits. Like, we're not capable of filling
- 6:21a hole. We're the red headed step children of the gaming community. Sorry,
- 6:28if you're a red headed stepchild, I don't know. See red headed
- 6:30step children get attention, Like what is the child who no one cares about?
- 6:35That's the we are. We're like the middle child in a non family.
- 6:44No, because the black sheep gets attention. Everybody talks about that exactly,
- 6:46like like whatever family has nine kids and then there's that one that know
- 6:50on has nothing to do with that. We are talking about a sheep of
- 6:56the family, and we had a sheep of our own family. Here.
- 6:59I'm sorry when right up your head, we love you all. Yeah,
- 7:01we're like that kid that like we just like we're okay at most things,
- 7:05but like not great at anything. So we're just like dead in the center.
- 7:10We probably have some like mundane like name like Tim. We're like it's
- 7:15just like the guests left at Walmart. Yeah, they did head counts and
- 7:19counted a different child and accidentally left home alone. They didn't take us to
- 7:29Walmart, Man, they took us to Dollar General and all right, all
- 7:34right, to refocus this uh hot garbage dumpster fire here of our cast,
- 7:41did any of these did I actually think the locations being in game stores is
- 7:48a good idea. Again, we had put that out earlier. I don't
- 7:51see that as an issue. What did surprise me is how agree, like
- 7:56go ahead, yeah, like you mentioned a second ago, Key Ford's Live
- 8:01was host to that like a real venue. I don't know. I guess
- 8:07I understand that, like this is just where we are, but it's just
- 8:11okay. So so something to take into account here with little research knowledge is
- 8:18these venues are more games center sizzed than like where you're playing on your local
- 8:26They all consider one hundred plus people, so they're not little ass game stores.
- 8:31These all these places as mina big I mean, look at the look
- 8:37at the outside of this Millennium Games that clearly used to be a seers well
- 8:43but Millennium Games. When I had clicked on it earlier tonight hed toss here.
- 8:46Yeah, it said the largest game store in the country is what their
- 8:50moniker was, it's there. I think this is important to know that these
- 8:54weren't just skulf. Oh they have a discussed section. Oh yeah, there'd
- 9:01be a section. Awesome. Well, these are all supposed to be pretty
- 9:07darn big venues, so I don't they should not feel small. And they
- 9:13have higher caps than attendance than we had I think at any vault last year.
- 9:18So I think from size wise, we're going to be okay. I
- 9:24did notice. Well that's when I look at the San Antonio one today.
- 9:28It is two and a half miles between it and the nearest hotel, or
- 9:33about two miles two and a half miles. Well, oh that's what you're
- 9:37looking for. I was trying to find out the serve beer. Yeah,
- 9:41if you're trying to uber or trying to connect for transportation, it's a little
- 9:45bit off. But but that but that is the sacrifice that we have.
- 9:50I mean, our community is not a massive community at this point. Do
- 9:54we know in Baltimore because we can move rides off Southerly and rock Chester and
- 10:00he's gonna drive us around Texas. We got we got the Bay Witches down
- 10:05there, you got Julie July, you got you got a bunch of folks
- 10:07down there. But they're not our people, right, Like I can't I
- 10:11mean, like I can ask them, I can't just abuse them. How
- 10:18do you feel about this news? We're abused. While we can't visit,
- 10:22we can fully abuse sularly. That's fine, I can. I can take
- 10:26it for a couple more, a couple more rounds. Okay, Well,
- 10:33I guess even before you get there, Wookie, what surprised me was not
- 10:35necessarily the venues. Because we do need them. It needs to be a
- 10:41price point that is logical, so I can see correct, right, and
- 10:46they just weren't doing that last year. That foundation we can make a profit
- 10:52and and build from there, make a profit off of the vaults, I
- 10:56think so, or at least break even. All right, I'll be shitting
- 11:00on this in a little bit. Innation Tours twenty twenty four. You're you're
- 11:05saying that the other piece that I think needs to be talked about. And
- 11:07this surprised me a bit. When we were talking vaults, I was actually
- 11:11anticipating dates that would be a little bit later. So the idea for early
- 11:16May, end of May, middle of June, and middle of July actually
- 11:22surprised me. For like, I guess, the two Mays right after April,
- 11:26and maybe I should have been a little bit more aware. When do
- 11:33we expect the next that to come out? Five that September? Our next
- 11:41set is released after all of these dates. Yeah, yeah, well so
- 11:48I think that's part of that, right, Like if they wanted the season
- 11:50to just speak from Reminders focused or whatever, like there you go. So
- 11:54and then they do another set for Amber Sky, No, they will make
- 11:58it. So then there's Amber Skies and in theory early twenty five we get
- 12:05Super Reminder Skies or something like amber Skis only plays at key Ford Celebrations.
- 12:15That seems strict. Yeah, it gets a sealed event Keyboard Keyford Celebrations in
- 12:20theory, and then it seems really just and then it basically just and then
- 12:28whatever the archon power level is because I'm as it doesn't that season. It
- 12:33doesn't get a season of sealed events. That's true, it gets one all
- 12:39right, Like it just was odd to me. I guess I was anticipating
- 12:43a bigger spread where it would cover both sets, and I was anticipating it
- 12:46being later. But I'm telling you why, I'm clear. I mean,
- 12:52I just assume they never know what they're doing. That did come into it.
- 12:56Yes, this was actually considered like their their what do they call it,
- 13:01their release cadence, Like I'm sure, like that's like a business thing,
- 13:07right, Like we definitely want to sell products, so we need to
- 13:09release two a time, and then like way after the fact, there's like,
- 13:13oh, hey, hey, Josh, go do an opie thing.
- 13:16Fit it into this window. We don't care about. The game is gonna
- 13:22what drop in April or is that just something they said and I made a
- 13:26thing of no, I guess that that's when it was gonna drop around December,
- 13:31and we just got confirmation that that's when it's dropping two weeks ago.
- 13:35And then what that it runs for like two weeks and then we expect product
- 13:41like a month later. If we just use a six month thing, like
- 13:48all right, our official grimmer Minders releases like the first week of March right
- 13:54six months from that is the first week of September. There you go,
- 13:58Yeah, that's that's their target. I assume if you're going to do a
- 14:01six month cadence every year, it's got to be roughly around the same time
- 14:05every year. I guess. Yeah, So they're going to try to have
- 14:09kicks Kickstar game found in hand like before money, right, so they want
- 14:16to they want to have it in our hands and theory like early August or
- 14:20or late July, so they can have a pre release out by June.
- 14:26You I don't mean, I don't know how quick, but you could have
- 14:28Maryland and Nevada. Now the pre release would be like last week of August.
- 14:37Yeah, so I don't think we're gonna have product by Vegas for the
- 14:43No, that's my that's my point. That's w I wanted to bring that
- 14:46up. Is like all of these events will miss set eight except whatever the
- 14:52hell next that's called number, which is is interesting, right, it's a
- 14:56trice. Yeah. I guess for me, when Sheep discovered Vegas and it,
- 15:03you know, we could figure out that it was July twelfth through the
- 15:05fourteenth, I anticipated that as more being the median versus the end point for
- 15:13our vault to our season. So that that just that was an interesting observation
- 15:16for me that I've actually it all leads to Nationals in August. Is there
- 15:22anybody going to Nationals here? Drastus talking about it? I did not get
- 15:31tickets. Yeah. The fact that we had no idea and let's face it.
- 15:35Last year's was not spectacular and the prizing was awful, especially for what
- 15:41we paid to go there. Yeah, just across me twice as much as
- 15:46all of these other events, and at best you could win nothing. Yes,
- 15:52yeah, I mean I enjoyed gen Con because I had never been to
- 15:56gen Con and I did to go to but but I also even just for
- 16:03not keyboard stuff, I wasn't like, let me go to this every year
- 16:06like I could, I could get a lot. It was ruined by all
- 16:10them silly princess chasers. No, I disagree about that. I just wow,
- 16:18that's because you're a princess chaser. That's definitely. I don't know how
- 16:22to say that, but I disagree about it. So that there's that,
- 16:26And you know again this year that can they prize nationals better than vaults?
- 16:36Probably not. Well, we haven't talked about. Yeah, we haven't gotten
- 16:41Oh but wait we will International Vault Tour Well Vault Tour twenty twenty four.
- 16:47China will be getting one, Vietnam will be getting one, Germany will be
- 16:49getting one, Italy will be getting one in soul Spain. None of these,
- 16:56none of them are in China. Organized by D twenty board games in
- 17:03Vietnam organized by Nerd Lab, in Germany organized by Azy Cards, and games
- 17:07in Italy organized by Asthmadi, Spain and Spain. That's Emperor Reku's crowd and
- 17:15via TV. Yeah it's yep. So I did think the Nordic country did
- 17:22not have representation, So we got to go ahead and help you guys out.
- 17:26You get to push a little bit further for a store in your now.
- 17:30So if you catch some of the other talk that was going around,
- 17:33and I know we're all over the place, but running Vault tours is not
- 17:37free. You paid to get the stuff to do it, so somebody's got
- 17:41to be willing to puny the money up front. And you know, when
- 17:45your community all just wants to buy three decks and play adaptive, why would
- 17:49you try to run them a tournament? Well, and I guess that leads
- 17:52into the next paragraph that ghost Geoxi is still looking for a UK partner and
- 17:57they did not find one. So this is this is still really good news
- 18:03in my opinion, correct in other areas. But I mean seeing that China,
- 18:07Vietnam, Germany, Italy and Spain all have organizations that are working with
- 18:12them and will have a Vault tour. I appreciate being able to see that,
- 18:18so I'm excited. It is pretty cool to see some of these pop
- 18:22up. I mean, my wife was like, what we need to see
- 18:25Vietnam. I do agree. I do agree with you, sheep. We
- 18:29do need to see dates. But for Italy does that cargo to Vietnam quite
- 18:36often? No, it's I was like, very different. I will say
- 18:45that in like one this is where our geographical you and I right now listen
- 19:00and we have a member of the show that literally says be American or stop
- 19:06playing KeyForge. Say, I don't think, okay, that's what I did
- 19:17not say that, Okay, it's good to be an American. If you
- 19:23want to play key Forge. I did say, if you want to play
- 19:29in more vaults, move to America. Yes, I said that. What
- 19:33I found interesting is when we finished up the US Vault tour, they did
- 19:37talk about Ghost Galaxy has organized a room block so cheap. There you go,
- 19:41that's how we figured out Alexis Park Resorts for Vegas. Well, but
- 19:47that's it is. I was shocked that these rumor agreements will not only give
- 19:51a special rate but provide a place. And there was a lot of linked
- 19:55components for the five US spots, but it does not actually have room.
- 20:00Since we were talking about it for some of these locations that you know they're
- 20:04they're game stores, they don't have they're they're not right next to the airport
- 20:10and they're not going to go ahead and have easy transportation potentially. So I
- 20:15love that that GG has the room arrangement, but I don't see it.
- 20:18So that would have been something that could have been put on there. But
- 20:22you know what, I give them that this is out and we will get
- 20:26that hopefully very very soon because these dates are coming up. There is then
- 20:30there is hotel information for alleys. Yeah they are where, Yeah, where
- 20:36you get your tickets. It's yeah, that's the okay, see there you
- 20:38go. I did not click that, So all right, moving forward,
- 20:45Here is the schedule of events kind of what we thought it was going to
- 20:49be. It's going to be three days events and they going Friday and ending
- 20:55on Sunday, Friday, twelve pm. Key Ford CE Tournament. Want to
- 21:00make sure Sealed fails put it on Friday. It's not gonna fail. It's
- 21:06not going to fail, but they're putting it there because they're still valuing the
- 21:10arkon An Alliance as that's what they're valuing. I will just leave it there.
- 21:18But that's what I see them schedule. What do you want them to
- 21:19do? You want to run ARCon on Friday and then Seal on Friday.
- 21:26Friday and the four people that are going to show up for Alliance, you
- 21:29can have it all done Friday morning. Well, this putting Alliance on Friday
- 21:33is the only way that you're going to get people to play it. Ye
- 21:36Ever, again, think of how how much lower the attentions for ARCon would
- 21:45be if it had to compete Sealed. It would lose. I think it
- 21:48would lose out a lot of players to Seal. I'm telling you a good
- 21:52split though. I think you would be real close to fifty to fifty words.
- 21:56Sure as well. Is not going to be fifty to fifty fifty fifty
- 22:00I think it would be. I think it would be. I think it
- 22:03would be like Alliance versus Arkon currently, No, I don't think. I
- 22:07don't think so. So here's where my preference is. I just want to
- 22:12see it rotated, and I know that means that some locations may be hit
- 22:17up, but I was looking for a little bit better distribution for the faults.
- 22:21You you won the lottery on this one. I'm gonna say that,
- 22:23but I'm going to tell you that I would have liked to have seen that
- 22:26rotation. And you can pick randomly where you're gonna go, but you would
- 22:30have then data potentially to go ahead and see what what are the numbers who's
- 22:34showing up for your arkon If ARCon and Alliance are running side by side,
- 22:38or ARCon and Sealed or Alliance in sealed, I think that gives you a
- 22:44lot better information. It's important use that data though, because it's locational and
- 22:48attendance number based. Like if there's one thing GG is shown is they try
- 22:55to set one thing and run that, and that's what they want to run
- 23:00for those seasons. They don't want variants in their stuff. They want to
- 23:03be like, this is the package, this is what we deliver, and
- 23:07the only reason it changes is because we're really bitchy. I hear that,
- 23:11but I'm telling you, by just splitting it up, you should be able
- 23:15to see a vast difference your your numbers versus even Z or mine. If
- 23:19they're different. That's where we can go ahead and test that theory. But
- 23:23unfortunately it's just not gonna happen, and that's saved for another day. We
- 23:26got players who are all salted and they go, well, I'm not going
- 23:29because Sealed's on the wrong day and it's against the other events. So now
- 23:32I'm paying for two events, but all I get to play in one.
- 23:33It doesn't matter what you do. Yeah, they're in a losing situation.
- 23:37I get that, but I'm telling you we have well, we either have
- 23:40to get rid of Alliance. I'm gonna say we gotta get rid of Alliance,
- 23:44but until that happens, that would be my next best is rotate them.
- 23:48I am not seeing I would have considered was putting Alliance Arkan on Friday
- 23:53and just running Sealed on Saturday. That's the only difference I would have considered.
- 23:57If I was scheduling it, that might not be bad. But I
- 24:02think halfway through Friday is fine. Like, yeah, I think large.
- 24:07I don't. I don't have the numbers, but how many people drove in
- 24:12versus flew in for events we know there was usually only less less than ten
- 24:21percent of the crowd missed the Friday Sealed as is now, it started a
- 24:25little bit later than it is now, but it's like only ten percent of
- 24:29people missed it anyways, and that was with it having joke prizes. So
- 24:33now that has to other vaults. We'll get rid of into those. Well
- 24:41that's a big statement there, man. They will show up and I don't
- 24:47I don't think Friday. I mean like you're taking a day off anyway.
- 24:51I'm in his agree we're taking a day off and number two we're playing Sealds.
- 24:55So people will show up. Prizes. The prize is a whole other
- 24:59top. We'll get it a prize of the They want to hover over the
- 25:02image next to the schedule events. So yeah, when you hover over,
- 25:07it shows the name of the image file, which is tok hyphen tick KF
- 25:12instead of TikTok. I'm just curious, like is this I don't know.
- 25:18I'm wondering how that came to be as far as like because his name is
- 25:22TikTok and when they named it they went last name first. It still has
- 25:26the hyphen in there, Like I think this is the actual saved image file.
- 25:30They just uploaded it, so like when did the name change? It's
- 25:33my curiosity. That's plausible, Like this definitely looks like the format that it
- 25:38was saved in on a drive. Well, see, you know that they've
- 25:44done a lot of extensive research and followed through with where where images are coming
- 25:49from to make sure that it's properly adjusted. Do anything extensively? All right,
- 25:55twelve, you're gonna get us key Ford sealed tournaments, not any that.
- 26:02What is it called unified sealed? Now that's there. When they say
- 26:07sealed, they mean unified seald. There's only one terminology for punch going around
- 26:12to waste time. When when are we going to just play unified key Forge,
- 26:17which is three deck Alliance or Urn in the same event, because they're
- 26:22both legal under Alliance. So that's just that's already unified key Forge. Why
- 26:26do we need to don't give them Alliance to? Oh sure? I mean
- 26:34like and you can do it with sealed decks or you can do it with
- 26:41with dark tidy. Everybody can play everything they want. Let's mix in the
- 26:48Nagerie and unchanged. Just go ahead and construct your decks, you know what,
- 26:53Just do what you want, all right. Friday, second Ember Consolation
- 26:57Tournament Saturday at ten a m. Key Forge ARCon and Alliance Tournament Saturday,
- 27:03seven p m. Top eight finals sealed. That is interesting. That is
- 27:08a long day. And then after your beat from getting through the Alliance or
- 27:14arc on field, you kind of go sit down and go back to your
- 27:15sealed back. Isn't that draft score? Isn't that graded arcons? So like
- 27:22his day will be short. So then when he goes to top eight of
- 27:26seals four anymore, I feel like crap. Place, Like, I don't
- 27:30know, if you make top eight and sealed, just go play Alliance with
- 27:33the other four Alliance players. That's true, that's a good idea. There's
- 27:40a pin on the line. Actually, you might be the fourth player in
- 27:45Alliance top four. I registered the top four. I think the Alliance numbers
- 27:53will be very similar to last year all right five. I think it's without
- 28:00the money. I think it'll be lower, But I don't think it's going
- 28:03to be drastically lower, because you can't get drastically lower. I think you
- 28:07can. They are like like, here's my lens of that. As far
- 28:11as why I think that. Do you think on average attendance for these events
- 28:15is going to be higher then last year? No, So if you're thinking
- 28:22that attendance itself is going to be lower, and there's no money for Alliance.
- 28:26When I'm joking about there being four people for this, I'm not joking
- 28:32like it's going to be four to eight. I just don't see it being
- 28:36most. Do you need eight? I see it. I think if we're
- 28:40going over under, I think eight is I think it would be more than
- 28:42eight people. They struggled, they didn't get as it was with Okay,
- 28:48well Seattle is just Seattle, man. No, but that wasn't the only
- 28:51one where they did not have eight people until people looked at the line,
- 28:56went what and they walked over there. Yeah. If there was not money,
- 29:00though, evinced last year, they would have hit eight eight. I
- 29:03can't argue with you on that one. So so like today, e Bro,
- 29:11I still think that you're gonna see eight, but it's it's gonna be
- 29:14small. I'm going with thunder. Yeah. Saturday second Umber Consolation Tournament Sunday,
- 29:19ten am, Top eight finals both the Lions and Arkan, all days,
- 29:26various side events. What do you guys think of the seven pm Saturday
- 29:30night for top finals for Sealed? I mean, what else are they gonna
- 29:34do? I'm okay with it. Yeah, I'm fine with it. I
- 29:37think Saturday is a big day I do, it's a little bit of a
- 29:41bummer, Like when you get to Sunday if you aren't top eight, there's
- 29:45like just side events. There's nothing else, And Sunday has always been kind
- 29:48of a little letdown for me. But I mean, Saturday is your jam
- 29:53pack day, so I get it. Prediction is that that is gonna be
- 29:59much earlier. By the end of the season. They're going to have so
- 30:02few people they'll be able to fire that event at five. Who wrote this
- 30:06article? Your Josh, Josh, Josh, I got a hug. Like
- 30:12just second Ember Constellation tournaments return in twenty twenty four is away for players to
- 30:18continue their fund more casually after their experience the main tournament tournament ends well,
- 30:22several side events will be available as well. Excuse me, The ar kind
- 30:26of Alliance tournament will run concurrently on Saturday, which means players must choose what
- 30:32format to participate in. Finally, take note that the Sealed will hold finals
- 30:37on Saturday night. Because the key Forde fund is just so packed in Yeah,
- 30:44yeah, I don't know, so the one thing that is interesting,
- 30:45So let's let's I just set I've been playing kind of crappy recently, but
- 30:49let's say, actually I do well and I make that sealed top eight,
- 30:56so that probably means no dascore experience Saturday night, right, because jazz COR's
- 31:00experience is trying to trying to get a win. No, no, no
- 31:03no. If it's top eight finals, you got seven to eight, then
- 31:07you're gonna go ahead an eight to nine and then eleven then yeah, and
- 31:15we could all stumble and hungover on Sunday. But but there's nothing else.
- 31:18But there's nothing on Sunday outside of the top eight, which is much.
- 31:22You made top cut for both for both. Yeah, you can see that.
- 31:27This is actually my concern that comes up later, but we'll talk about
- 31:32that. I do think that top eight for Alliance or Arkan great, you
- 31:37did awesome. But outside of top eighty and all of these which great dress
- 31:41score, go ahead and do that. You're gonna have a good time Saturday
- 31:44night. And you're fine with that. There is awesome some truth, I
- 31:48think there'll be top eight for the sealed, but the other ones might play
- 31:52down to top four because that's what they like to do now into l O
- 31:57and make a bigger mess of it by doing a top four, like if
- 32:00they're starting at noon on Friday. Why don't they just finish it on Friday?
- 32:06Like what? Because they're hoping they have enough players that that's not realistic.
- 32:10They don't know their numbers, and so it gives them an option.
- 32:14We'll see they would have to have more than one hundred and twenty people.
- 32:17I'm aware. I'm aware of the yes, and I started. They start
- 32:22at two pm. Remember we all, we all lined a whole bunch.
- 32:25I know when they started to be there. This ship says twelve, and
- 32:30then read what twelve is when they open game start at two pm. Josh
- 32:35has been clear about that. In some other places, game start at two
- 32:37pm on Friday. Some other places, this says twelve. I don't care
- 32:44what it says. I know the key Forge news works, and I can't
- 32:49have inside information to decode what is going on. I can't argue with you
- 32:55on this sheet, but I will tell you when it says twelve, twelve
- 32:59should mean twelve and not two. We're not looking at multiple sources. So
- 33:02yes, if you're there by two, that's when you're playing. However,
- 33:06what it actually shows no o'clock. We do not want that responsibility. This
- 33:12ship says twelve. If you want to play in this event, you should
- 33:14show up at twelve just in case they start at one, one thirty or
- 33:16anything. But don't blame that on us. Twelve o'clock it says twelve,
- 33:21show up at twelve. Yeah, show up at twelve. I just realized
- 33:22I was using here. We have the message from Josh that says one thirty.
- 33:28If you want to leave thirty minute for four gene one fifty, fine,
- 33:30we don't care. Game started two Uh huh, yeah, Sole lied,
- 33:37we're probably time right. We can't add two hours is going to go
- 33:43down, right, So you gotta you gotta remember that. There's a reason
- 33:45why stores don't have it yet, right because they're like a shoot, it'll
- 33:49just crash. They haven't finished data or run beta yet anyway. Alpha alfa,
- 33:54alfa, Sorry, but what we really need to be able to see
- 33:58is not off of a disc scored message. What it says is what it
- 34:01should mean. Again, our words should mean something. Cast and GG and
- 34:07all key Forge players done period. Let's talk about prizes, Shelley. Let's
- 34:15do previously that the cast would not be twenty four. We believe we've come
- 34:22up with prizes that will still be exciting. No, players to duel over.
- 34:30These are the highlights special deck displays to divide among the final eighths of
- 34:36Sealed Alliance. Doesn't that seem weird? Terminology? Special deck displays were getting
- 34:42one? It's so vague. Why can't tell us after waiting this? But
- 34:47is this like acrylic box that I put a deck in? But what do
- 34:52they mean in boxes of twelve decks? I'm assuming it's a display of twelve
- 34:58decks as we talked about, but it's maybe it's a bad assumption. But
- 35:00here's my thing. If we have one display, oh, it's not gonna
- 35:06be a single display you but you talk about no no, no, no,
- 35:08no, no no no. But honestly, think if there's three displays
- 35:13that's split up for the top eight for sealed ar kind of alliance, you
- 35:15now have to right, But that actually means that it's one display for one
- 35:22through eight for each of those that is no no, I think each person
- 35:27says, final idiot. If you get top eight, you'll get one special
- 35:31treatment deck. If you get top four, if you get third or fourth,
- 35:37you're gonna get two, and then it might be three and four.
- 35:39It's gonna be something like that. I won't I don't actually know, but
- 35:44I'm saying it's gonna be something like that. And then when you do the
- 35:46math, just figure out how you make it. So when you do,
- 35:51oh, I think it's just four decks. You think it's even gonna be
- 35:57that much? You think each of the getting I'm saying, just like the
- 36:01the displays are divided up between the winners, because like then they wouldn't say
- 36:06top eight. Yeah, I do think that it's going to be top eight,
- 36:09and we really pushed. Yeah, final eights need to have something.
- 36:13So let's read the other two bullet points. Why why is five through eight
- 36:19not getting a box? Third and fourth getting two each? We don't know
- 36:25if it's three displays, everyone gets one deck. Yeah, that that is
- 36:30possible, and please complete Please don't do that, kid, you not,
- 36:36Please don't do that. I'm already depressed over the Star Championship prize get well,
- 36:40yeah, I expected I thought the Championship. Yeah, thanks for playing.
- 36:46Here's the deck. Uh we haven't okay, gone for Final eight,
- 36:53final runners up and invite to key Forge twenty twenty four champions Ship for the
- 37:01champions so only the Yeah, so I need this to understand three things special
- 37:10deck displays divided for the top eight achievement pins for finals eight, Finals four
- 37:16and runner up, and then an invite for key Ford twenty twenty four World
- 37:20Championship. So if you're the winner, you win more. That is one
- 37:22hundred percent what's here only the winner And so now championships was too big last
- 37:29year apparently. But but let me let down. But let me say this
- 37:34as someone who played in one of those finals. It was a very very
- 37:37easy going, casual moment. Maybe it was too casual for me with June
- 37:40and myself, but we enjoyed that time and you took stress off because you
- 37:45qualified for worlds Now, now this is absolutely cutthroat because you get additional items
- 37:52for actually making it. And we'll see more of that later, more of
- 37:55that WOS friendship stuff. But but but there's a lot to be gained by
- 38:02that you have achievement pins, which we see. Okay, market doesn't get
- 38:08one bill by the way, they would I have three or four pins to
- 38:16show this year instead of the nothing. So so my question really comes,
- 38:22why are we not running like any other game? Problem? All right,
- 38:28let me let me finish this. Why are we not going ahead and running
- 38:31like any other game where you keep track of where you are finishing and when
- 38:37you consistently show a higher proportion to be able to play that that gives you
- 38:43access to worlds and other things. Literally, this is only the Champions.
- 38:47This is horrible and there's reasons. I don't want cheap to get in easily
- 38:57and his dumb ass will show up to everything, so we can't. I
- 39:00don't think they want as many people at KFC. Well, but KFC just
- 39:06is going to come into the plant like you. Literally now, if anyone
- 39:08wins like doubles up, you're pooching so many other people in the community.
- 39:15This comes down to there's a huge advantage just to showing up in November at
- 39:19KFC for that plan in my opinion. Yeah, but like last year,
- 39:23how many was on each side? Did they need thirty two or something?
- 39:27They needed thirty two? I think they're yes. Okay, so based on
- 39:30the numbers we're seeing now this year, that might be sixteen. No,
- 39:35I think that they're still going with thirty two. I think that thirty two
- 39:38almost the entire field will be playing. No, because you're going ahead and
- 39:44taking the individuals from Probably there's no twenty four invites Yes, that's per per
- 39:50event. There will be twenty to twenty four invites per event just because of
- 39:53Nationals. I guess because they're nationals, so they're only ten. That's only
- 39:59ten ten, and then you have every one of those people can show up.
- 40:02They've cut all this money. I got to imagine they're not offering travel
- 40:07stipens. That's what I'm saying. In the Worlds. That's a whole nother
- 40:09thing. Yeah. No, I think there'll be more than sixteen. I
- 40:13think they're going to still have thirty two. And I'm telling you, I
- 40:15think the number is going to be high for the plan. I think that
- 40:19means that basically everyone that shows up will be in Worlds. I think my
- 40:23advantage is to show up in November for KFC for the plan, which is
- 40:30not what I want to see. I want to see my top players here.
- 40:32I do want to see the travel stipends, which I they weren't even
- 40:36discussed here. But they're not getting any well, I thinks anyway. So
- 40:40I know they came from Nationals because they didn't go ahead and basically send out
- 40:45the money for the international vaults. That's what was said. Now, they
- 40:47didn't run the international vaults, so that that's why they had the money.
- 40:52But I I think that here in the prizes as a whole, when you're
- 40:58looking at ten grand and possible between our kind of alliance, what now has
- 41:02gone into all three? They are nowhere near this. They have not used
- 41:07that money for they have they have not used that money to market or done
- 41:12anything else. Like I'm telling you that there needed to be an entire prize
- 41:17pool for everyone costs lesson this is like fifty bucks, maybe more than that.
- 41:23It's more than fifty, but it's how much. The are like three
- 41:29or four dollars apiece and that's but pins at four bucks apiece, that's like
- 41:36a hundred bucks right there. Man, So are you are you spending basically
- 41:39free it's like fifty cents? Nah, they're at least a dollar. But
- 41:45okay, so are you spend? Are you spending the money in order to
- 41:49go to additional vaults based on this prize pool? Are you doing it?
- 41:52Because we're going to see our keyboard friends from thousand dollars to one hundred Again,
- 42:02I'm not some I'm not someone going and tracking for the money. It
- 42:06was nice, but I'm telling you that by us downgrading. We're never going
- 42:09to see it anywhere close to it. This was a mass This isn't just
- 42:13a little downgrade. Did you anticipate anything different from gig? Did you anticipate
- 42:20anything different? But like, I see, well, I think and we
- 42:23don't know, right, So they might be saying, well, this is
- 42:25what we'll say, but maybe there'll be some more things. I don't think.
- 42:30It's like we know that they they've done some cool stuff with like the
- 42:35posters. They have the ability to reprint decks, they can add special treat
- 42:37like there's a lot of stuff they can do. Yeah, but long history
- 42:45of surprising us in a positive way, right, Like, but that was
- 42:49really cool at KFC, it was. It was cool. It's great,
- 42:52it's hanging on my wall. I like it. But I'm telling them from
- 42:57so much hate I would have had otherwise it wasn't that was cool. So
- 43:04it was it was. It was cool. But it doesn't like you have
- 43:07to be able to This isn't free for free for people to travel and he's
- 43:15just that, but people have to pay for their expenses from hotel to food
- 43:21to flights. If you're going, like my prediction was that you're going to
- 43:25see a more localized community and our numbers are going to dwindle. I still
- 43:30think that's the case. I wanted to see the prizes to be able to
- 43:34bring more out, but yeah, I'm not seeing that. This justifies to
- 43:38travel to all of them. Fairly consistent feedback that the prizes weren't the driving,
- 43:46Well no, I think there's fairly consistent feedback that the money wasn't driving.
- 43:52You can't go from like, oh, well, okay, so it's
- 43:55not money, but like you have to like, are you going to be
- 44:00happy winning a vault and being handed a single deck? No, I'm at
- 44:06all And again I got vaults. Let's let's say let's say it's a box.
- 44:15A box of gr at retail right now is one eighty for us.
- 44:19Okay, so would you go ahead and be content to win a vault and
- 44:23you got one hundred and eighty dollars box, which, frankly as you open
- 44:28it deteriorates to a very different I know, we essentially win a mat.
- 44:35We travel for different reasons. We're here to play the game and we love
- 44:37the game. But I'm telling you is enough for a World's invite? I
- 44:44have no Yeah, but travel Canada? Yeah, that is why I travel.
- 44:51You are correct in that, but like, but is one of is
- 44:55there too? Accept a bunch of frustration and anger? Again, my question
- 45:01is out there? Are you going? Are you traveling this year at one
- 45:07box? No? Not not for a box, but like because other car
- 45:09games do a lot more than a box. I mean, if you have
- 45:13a case, I think your phrase question wrong? Okay, phrase difference?
- 45:16Is this going to? Uh? Is there a chance you'll travel less with
- 45:22this? As it would be fine? It's a different way of saying it.
- 45:28I am certainly not on scheduling things that they already up like our gaming
- 45:34hoop. Yeah, so I had four things on the calendar for this whole
- 45:37year, and I landed on three of them. Well that's wookie less.
- 45:44We did look at your schedule and send it to CTC. Do you have
- 45:46wookies kids birthdays? I mean that'll be main, that'll be I could go
- 45:57to all of these. I can go to all of them, but really
- 46:02you honestly, the two I'm looking at, I'm still trying to go to
- 46:06Roosevelt and Texas. I will not go to anything other than San Antonio and
- 46:15most likely KFC, oh CAFC too. Yeah, unless you have fun and
- 46:21actually join us in Vegas. There is a scenario that I am up in
- 46:27the Northern Lands and if things work out, I could potentially just stay up
- 46:30there and go to Vegas. I could potentially go to Vegas. Talk to
- 46:36me about this, because I'm in a similar predicament the weekend before Maryland when
- 46:45I come back on the seventeenth. So Maryland runs June fourteenth through the sixteenth.
- 46:51It is Father's Day weekend the fifteen sixteenth, right like that weekend,
- 46:54but the seventeenth through the twenty seventh down in Florida. So I would literally
- 47:02fly out to Maryland, play and then come back. And we were looking
- 47:07at actually leaving early because I will have to drive all the way down to
- 47:09Florida. Yes, yes, that isn't I want to put yourself through that
- 47:15for a deck, just one special treatment. I guess that's the question.
- 47:20Like maybe as I see what's there, and I'll see what's at Roseville,
- 47:23but that's not why you're going. I love our community. That's the problem.
- 47:34I do guarantee chance that cash makes it worth going, i'd be going.
- 47:37I'd be going for the same reason I love our community. And that's
- 47:40it announcement. My attendance has nothing to do with the priz. We all
- 47:47love the community. But I don't know if any of this is worth like
- 47:52the hassle of like rearranging things to do much of anything. Well, technically
- 47:57that weekend is not booked up. I don't leave until my but like you're
- 48:00going to putting stress on yourself to like time and time frames and time schedule
- 48:06like it just yeah, oh there. Technically we live in the middle of
- 48:09the night, is what was just informed to me, And and that is
- 48:12true. We usually do leave about two am, so I mean depends on
- 48:15what time I get home. I got a couple hours to sleep. What
- 48:19could go wrong with that? You the fourteenth of June like the Maryland one,
- 48:22No, that that would I would be returning the sixteenth and I leave
- 48:27the seventeenth. That you leave the next day at two am? Yeah,
- 48:30so, so talk to me about Vegas because Vegas actually stills appealing outside of
- 48:35Vegas, Like flights to Vegas right now are ridiculously high at that time,
- 48:39because I did look after sheep announced, but I talked to me, what
- 48:43can we do because because flight history says they should be a lot cheaper they
- 48:46should be. So Originally I was supposed to fly up to you guys sometime
- 48:52near the end of June and say we're doing the fourth we're doing and come
- 48:57home, but I need to talk to I think if we actually like rearrange
- 49:01that and flew out around the fourth, my family would return, and then
- 49:07there's a chance I could just stay up there with you all and fly to
- 49:09Vegas from where y'all are. I just need to figure out, like what
- 49:13all that looks like. All right, ooh, let's keep pushing through this
- 49:16because there's a whole other article to get through. Kind of not really,
- 49:20not really. Additionally, the most exciting thing will happen to first time winners
- 49:25of a Vault Tour tournament. They will be inducted into the ranks of an
- 49:30exclusive club that we have created just for Vault Tour champions. You ready,
- 49:37Vault Warriors, yayzy? For more information about this saying yay me, well
- 49:45wait until we read this article, were finally getting a Vault Warrior. For
- 49:50more information about the special club, what it will grant access to, and
- 49:54who is eligible, please see our Vault Warrior Companion article. The listed goodies
- 50:01are just the highlights of what you could expect on Vault tours. Additional non
- 50:06cash prizes will be available through casual events and other various means. Give all
- 50:13a chance to win something while experiencing some awesome Keyfarde fun. Then there's a
- 50:19new tour tour. No problem, you can play key Forardge Adventures. Moving
- 50:25on, people, tickets tickets for the US Vault Tour priced at a one
- 50:32hundred dollars per attendee. Single day tickets we will not be available. All
- 50:38ticketing will be handled through online purchases only. Yeah, we know that it
- 50:43needed to go up. The price point was just not appropriate. I think
- 50:46a hundred still keeps it reasonable, especially especially after going over to Lorcana,
- 50:52I think and attending there. I think the hundred for the weekend, with
- 50:57what you get for the three sealed plus your ability to play an arcunor Alliance,
- 51:01I think this is a steal. I'm not I'm not happy to see
- 51:06that they keep. What I'm telling you, this is a steal. I
- 51:09will say, there you go. They are not in a hotel, they
- 51:14are not in a venue, so they are what are what are they paying?
- 51:20These games cost? Space? You're gonna is not free for the game
- 51:25store. Okay, but you're five thousand dollars a hotel hall will cost you
- 51:32no cost a hell of a lot more to keep a store open forever.
- 51:37Yeah, you have the store on Friday, Saturdays, Monday. It is
- 51:40dramatic. But what also, what thousand dollars for the weekend? Maybe?
- 51:45But what isn't being taken into consideration is your judges. Frankly, we're not
- 51:51compensated properly. We're gonna be compensated properly. How do you think that's changing
- 51:59what at all? Well maybe they will in their pocket, but they need
- 52:09to is the way down. But they pay the judges way more. I
- 52:13mean, I'm okay with it. Whatever, But but isn't that what we
- 52:15need to desperately do is actually take care of the people who are streaming and
- 52:20the people who are judging, like the people who are yes, your idea
- 52:23that this is going to change this stream if there's no players, there will
- 52:30be players. It just what section are you getting to this idea that any
- 52:36of this is going to change? Like the Christmas Land? And I like
- 52:40to live in that Christmas Land after having a lovely adult bever, that is
- 52:45where I'm at my price went up. I'm not. I'm not in a
- 52:51hall. I'm in a game store, which is fine, Like, I
- 52:52really don't have a problem with that, But you're gonna tell me my price
- 52:55went up. Your costs went down dramatically. See a reminders. Price for
- 53:01the sealed for each deck has gone up. So if nothing else, that's
- 53:06where your cost is. You're seeing an increase. You're getting a goodie bag.
- 53:10You're going ahead and getting the goodie bags last year. Like nothing's changing.
- 53:16Am I gonna the cost for the decks has gone up? I'm telling
- 53:22you one hundred is cost not it's a reasonable price point if nothing else had
- 53:29changed. I I'm more. I think I'm here at one hundred one hundred
- 53:35bucks. It's okaya, having a good time. It's not the end of
- 53:37the world. It is kind of a kick in the junk is. To
- 53:42play in both you also have to do two of those digital keys. That
- 53:45hurts. And again this is why I wanted to get rid of them.
- 53:50Have so many key digital points. It doesn't matter because there's nothing else to
- 53:53do with it. But being a newer player, and then it's like not
- 53:57only one hundred bucks, but then you gotta pay twenty dollars for a key?
- 54:01Can we can? That's some that's you're supposed to buy fifty decks.
- 54:07As we're trying, as we're trying to go ahead and bring new players in,
- 54:09can we at least gift some keys to some of them just so that
- 54:13we can get new players in? Like, is there a reason that we
- 54:16can't, like, come on, help us out in that manner? Where
- 54:20are these new players coming from? Hey, we had nine at our local
- 54:24yesterday. That is my kid that had hey, hey, okay, but
- 54:30even even having us at eight, we did have one who has been kind
- 54:34of on the fence and one new one. So those are still important.
- 54:37Like, that's that's something to celebrate. Two of those aren't going to show
- 54:39up next week? Yeah you're one of them? Yeah, well yeah,
- 54:45week is my inventory? You're correct, you are. We're going to think
- 54:49positive, keep increasing it is so it's in some world one hundred and fifty
- 54:53bucks for your weekend, which I think for a weekend is good. I
- 54:59mean that's guys. Do you do you understand you have run events? It
- 55:04costs to do anything. Still, I understand it costs. I don't money.
- 55:09They're gonna make money on this. But but here, here, here's
- 55:13my thing. Have you gone to any sporting event lately? Have you gone
- 55:15to a movie? Have you gone to a play? Have you gone to
- 55:19a music like like this symphony? Like? Have you gone anywhere? Like?
- 55:24Yes? So I think A hundred is a phenomenal deal show for me.
- 55:30Then when I go like, are we going to get juice on Broadway?
- 55:34When in New York? And I'm telling you, I'm telling you that
- 55:37I will buy Josh a drink and he will go ahead and he will enjoy
- 55:42that drink with you. Wookie, There you go, you come out,
- 55:45will receive a goodie bag as rewarded for showing up and participating in the event.
- 55:51The contents can be used at the event or taken home to enjoy it.
- 55:54We wanted to improve the look and feel the goodie bag in twenty twenty
- 55:59four. This year's about two or twenty twenty four goodie bags will be cloth
- 56:05logoo a bag filled with the following Is there just the bag we got a
- 56:10KFC? Probably? Well those were more annihilate. Yeah, Well, but
- 56:15they're saying, I think they're switching that to a string. But it'll be
- 56:20cloth yeah. So now I'll tell you so. Now instead of doing events,
- 56:24Josh is now ironing on KeyForge under three hundred press. Now, yeah,
- 56:30get on, no, because you can go ahead and mass produce that
- 56:32from like a company that sent them in that, or you can spend a
- 56:37dollar just Josh put it in the heat press for nothing. I'm seeing poor
- 56:44Josh going ahead and ironing over here. He's literally just using a T shirt
- 56:47press and pressing on keyfordge onto each one. Okay, silly, all right,
- 56:52So we're gonna where it's got the fussy that pins as your location name.
- 57:01What's the mystery item? Guys? What do you master? Twenty four?
- 57:07That's see, that's what's been going on Discord and uh nange it's going
- 57:12to be okay, probably that's actually more likely, probably gonna be those shitty,
- 57:16big ass keys that they have the big keys from the original Discovery kit,
- 57:25but you're in your Star Championships that I'm literally going to probably no,
- 57:31remember the big metal keys from like the very original kit, like Coda.
- 57:36Yeah, like Coda that you're getting in your store championship kits as well.
- 57:39Okay, so the keys for anyone knew who wasn't here. Initially with CODA,
- 57:45they are like they're larger. I enjoy the small keys, but I
- 57:50think they are they're nicely done, they're substantial, there's something that's useful for
- 57:53the game, and they're not throw the cardboard. But they're not cardboard.
- 57:58They're not local car chips. So we're fine with this shut shut out video
- 58:04right there. Exactly those that's what you're also getting in your store Championship kit.
- 58:09By the way, No, I think I think for the store Championship
- 58:13ext what you're getting, so we know for the store Championship. I actually
- 58:16like the box that it's in. I enjoy, I'm looking forward to play,
- 58:22but it's a store champion on it. Yeah, but they put that
- 58:24in. They have the individual medal keys, they have six Nate like six
- 58:30decks that are for the events, and then they have the Haunted tree or
- 58:32not haunted like those are. It's a combination of things, yes, the
- 58:37things that we had previously, the metal keys or straight garbage. It's something
- 58:45that is useful. It's something it's something that's useful, like what would you
- 58:50have put in. We can go ahead and pooh on this, but I
- 58:55like but I think I've told Josha many times, just don't put it on
- 59:01a card? What are they do? Are you gonna put it on a
- 59:07big giant ball? It'd be pretty sweet. The card fits in and is
- 59:13a nice way to be able to separate it out, So I'm fine with
- 59:15it. Yeah, I think they're right. I do think that this is
- 59:20going to be vault Master twenty four. And I love Jaml's response and his
- 59:24excitement for this, So that is where I'm leaning heavy hardcore. I really
- 59:29hope it is that for the mystery item, just for you, jam Just
- 59:32for you, man. I don't want them because I still have too many
- 59:36and I should not have gotten that, but for you, just to see
- 59:40your anger and angst probably gonna be unchained. Twenty twenty two DT decks Baby
- 59:51oh DT Yeah right, yeah, there you go. Yeah, you're taking
- 59:54excited taking deck. It is the mystery gift. It's whatever's left in Josh's
- 1:00:01cubical Yeah, like you get a big pen, Josh, doesn't happen?
- 1:00:07Can you get you get a signed post it note? Can we have like
- 1:00:09random things that are following, like a posting the that might be more exciting
- 1:00:15than a vault Master twenty four deck just random stuff from Josh's cubicle, like
- 1:00:21somebody got a paper clip, like, yeah, I use that paper clip
- 1:00:23to uh make Eco charge. I don't know very paper clip. Are We
- 1:00:30still supposed to finish Vault Warriors here and we're done with the Vault Tour season.
- 1:00:35So moving on to what happens when you become a Vault Warrior. It
- 1:00:37is a title bestowed upon those who compete in and win a main tournament at
- 1:00:43Vault To At a Vault Tour event, up to three Vault Warriors will be
- 1:00:47a national what not a national? Not a national? Three Vault Warriors will
- 1:00:54be inducted at every event, one for each format. Arkan alliance sealed.
- 1:01:01Who's going to be the first Vault Warrior in each of them? Not me?
- 1:01:06That's that's got to be the truth. They're already named who only victory
- 1:01:14will do for claiming this title. It does not pass down to a runner
- 1:01:17up participant when someone is already a Vault Warrior wins a second Vault Tour.
- 1:01:22Yeah, that we were talking about earlier, and that that hurts a lot.
- 1:01:27If you're gonna go ahead and take someone else's spot, you didn't win,
- 1:01:30man, You're not a Vault Warrior. Well that's a very important reason.
- 1:01:35Yeah, but okay, keep reading, keep reading because of what they're
- 1:01:38offering. And all I'm gonna say is the Vault Warrior title is for for
- 1:01:44four four life. But what I'm saying isn't that. What they're offering instead
- 1:01:52is they've already created this X ray scenario from KFC one, and I I'm
- 1:01:59really worried that it's gonna come to fruition because they're gonna do it again.
- 1:02:02Every winner of a Vault Tour during Ghost Galaxy tenure is a Vault Warrior.
- 1:02:07That means the title will also retroactively extend to all winners of Vault Tours in
- 1:02:12twenty twenty three. Because this statement, no, no, no pause right
- 1:02:15there. Yeah, because that statement right there. I am happy for anyone
- 1:02:21last year. But this statement really raised my frustration. This upset me really.
- 1:02:30Why? Why? Why? Because I because coming in second, there's
- 1:02:36already okay, you didn't go ahead and have the extra money. You go
- 1:02:38went ahead and took second. Fine, But it's a very casual we're playing
- 1:02:42for we're in worlds like you. Maybe I took it too casually, but
- 1:02:46I'm telling you now to come back and retroactively you get something extra, which
- 1:02:52is as no, no, no, no, you're getting You're actually getting
- 1:02:57something here where you now become a Vult Warrior, which was not announced.
- 1:03:01It's something different to play in. You also get potentially what was there of
- 1:03:07your deck that is going to be made with a special treatment. Now that's
- 1:03:10only for twenty twenty four people. I'm telling you. Even the idea for
- 1:03:15Vault Warrior, this one when it came out, this statement really frustrated me,
- 1:03:21and statement really lost. I did lose, and you know what,
- 1:03:25I want to vault. But what I'm telling what I'm telling you is that
- 1:03:30you like this what you don't even know what was available. I don't know
- 1:03:34what's available in the future, and now you're going to go back and retroactively
- 1:03:37apply it. Like great for everyone there. And maybe it's it's just more
- 1:03:40my frustration, but that that is not that was not cool a vault for
- 1:03:49like FG, that's not something. But that's fine, that's fine. Yeah,
- 1:03:53I'm like, I'm fine with it, right I I I don't can't
- 1:03:58feel your pain here, Yeah, Like I'm not I'm not feeling like,
- 1:04:02oh, why don't they honor whatever? I did whenever, like it it
- 1:04:05was a different company whatever, right, like I'll just have to try to
- 1:04:11win again. Well, why I agree with that? But why is it
- 1:04:14not just starting now? Why is it that we're going back and retroacting?
- 1:04:17Well because people's fun. But this, yeah, these things last year,
- 1:04:25like what about all the people? What about all the people who took second
- 1:04:28through eighth or didn't do anything at all? Like we should have better winter
- 1:04:33get nothing? But but but but that's what that's what this is what that's
- 1:04:39what this is about. I mean even for Worlds last year, I finished
- 1:04:42third, but I only lost once. Like it's not a too l O
- 1:04:45system. It just you lose once at the inappropriate time. No, I
- 1:04:49don't like. I mean you can hear you can hear you can hear that
- 1:04:55because you're you're sitting what what your alliance wins? Yeah? I I mean
- 1:05:00so so you get you get put in as a vault war Like I just
- 1:05:02don't. I don't get that. Why not started now? Why do you?
- 1:05:06Why was this even necessary to go back in? It makes some people
- 1:05:11feel good, but it makes others not feel good, like already finishing.
- 1:05:14I think you don't you don't feel first in this game for three years.
- 1:05:17You don't feel good, correct, and and that's it. So why are
- 1:05:23like I just when I see other games, you look at people who have
- 1:05:28gone ahead and done well in your in your playoff or vaults actively invited people
- 1:05:34based off of finishing in previous events that they didn't know. We're going to
- 1:05:38be invite based. That has definitely happened. No, I'm actually talking about
- 1:05:43a good point too. If they don't do this, it'll take them forever
- 1:05:46to be able to run an event. We'll never this pool. Yeah,
- 1:05:54that like, if they didn't know, they would not be able to host
- 1:05:57an event this year, they wouldn't have enough people events. We should continue
- 1:06:00read So, so it took us four years to be able to get Worlds,
- 1:06:04It'll take how many years to be able to get to our Volt Warrior
- 1:06:09the way they did it, they will be It's fine, it's fine,
- 1:06:13It's just frustration. I know. It sucks because you just put your effort
- 1:06:19and you don't realize you're getting screwed by their system, and then you find
- 1:06:23out how you askrew about your system, and it is very very frustrating when
- 1:06:28consistently it is not clear on how things are going to happen or play.
- 1:06:32I don't think that is like, I think you should ask the expert of
- 1:06:36how that feels. How does that feel? Yeah? It sucks. Look,
- 1:06:41I really guys, I think of all the things that we could play
- 1:06:44it about that does there's a lot to complain about. But to be like,
- 1:06:47hey, you can't try to create something nice and look backwards. Yeah,
- 1:06:54Like, why why are you telling you I did not see it as
- 1:06:56a nice thing that this? I mean, did you did you use I
- 1:07:03know, I know it sounds petty, but I'm telling you this is right
- 1:07:06where I was, Like, there's still there's frustration. You do the best
- 1:07:11that you can. You don't draw cars. Great, I lost one game
- 1:07:14at I don't get but because you got second once, they shouldn't have done
- 1:07:18this. Yeah, that doesn't make it. I'm simply saying to go back
- 1:07:23and to predate this. You Like, that's like an easy thing to say.
- 1:07:28If you want a vault, you get this title. They have very
- 1:07:30clear records of who won the vault, so why can't they have the title?
- 1:07:34Yeah, And like the article says, retrieving that data will be a
- 1:07:38snap because it's from playstyle. Thanks play Style like that it's it's just a
- 1:07:43title for winning a for winning something like that's it doesn't change that you did
- 1:07:48or didn't win it. Like it's just like in anything. It's like now
- 1:07:53instead of just being the winner of something, you're now the grand Champion.
- 1:07:57It's like because champion. Because there's other spoils that are there that it is
- 1:08:01actually documented for all of heroes in special debts. Them be more mad if
- 1:08:09they didn't do that, because so it would have been okay if they were
- 1:08:15just been like, had you want a vault, We're going to have a
- 1:08:16vault winners only invitational, But because there's no title, it'd be okay.
- 1:08:20You're when you start something, you're clear about what the parameters are going forward.
- 1:08:27This is where it is. That's just where I am. I understand.
- 1:08:30I understand this company doesn't work that way, but the rest run the
- 1:08:33world does. And that's why last year, as they advertised it like it's
- 1:08:40supposed to run this way, and then the pairings go weird every freaking event,
- 1:08:44so then we can just things work. So then we can just because
- 1:08:46they did it every freaking event, every event was run unique. That doesn't
- 1:08:51make any sense. I don't know why you think things are going to make
- 1:08:57them to the crucible. It is chaos. I just I don't understand why
- 1:09:01we would set this up. But yes, it's a great thing for everyone
- 1:09:04who's there, congrats on that. It just it's a for anyone who took
- 1:09:10second. You're already frustrated. You did the best that you could, but
- 1:09:13you took me at the time A lot of times. Yeah I didn't top
- 1:09:15eight a whole lot of times. I also took second and third. But
- 1:09:18guess what, that's where it finished. Because you want a bunch of money,
- 1:09:24but you didn't win. More like, no, no, no,
- 1:09:27no, no, I'm not actually going ahead and pissing moaning about that.
- 1:09:30See, that's where you're dead wrong, sheep. What I actually care about
- 1:09:34is maintaining because I saw this coming a while away, that Gigi, as
- 1:09:39soon as we would take money off the plate, was just going to go
- 1:09:42ahead and scarf it up themselves versus put it back into the community. So
- 1:09:45my argument is not for money in the community. There is it like they're
- 1:09:49making money, they are not. They are they are they are making they
- 1:09:55are making if they're not, if they're not, if they're not, if
- 1:09:58they're not making money, they would not be producing the game. What the
- 1:10:01leave? What? No, he's right? Not right there? Yeah,
- 1:10:06nope? She who might be back? All right, let's continue. He
- 1:10:10can disagree, but I'm telling you guys that they are making money and that's
- 1:10:15there. That's not what the intention was in order to create this frustration.
- 1:10:17We have a phenomenal community, So just keep going, all right? What
- 1:10:23is the special title good for? If it does not come with something joining
- 1:10:26the ranks? The Vault Warrior gives more than just a title. Here are
- 1:10:30just what it gives backrups. I think all the second place players have to
- 1:10:34give the vaults. Yeah all right, Uh, just a few of the
- 1:10:41goodies that Ghost Galaxy has planned for its Vault Warrior champions Hall of Heroes.
- 1:10:45Vault Warrior will be celebrated right here at keyforging dot com by being added to
- 1:10:51the Hall of Heroes with details on their victories and the decks they use to
- 1:10:56achieve them. Ghost Galaxies currently exploring the FEASA bit of integrating these directly into
- 1:11:02the Master Vault, which allows those who come for a visit to find the
- 1:11:06accolades of special decks and who use those decks to achieve them. Special decks.
- 1:11:14Vulturvaltueur twenty twenty four winners will be some of the first to experience the
- 1:11:18fruits of what the deck copy system is capable of repunts to their decks in
- 1:11:25translated languages, with special marketings affixed to them or fixed to the card backs
- 1:11:30and ARCon cards. Each Vault Warrior will receive a free copy of their winning
- 1:11:35deck with the accolades it was able to accumulate through the twenty twenty fourth season.
- 1:11:41These decks will be presented at keyboard celebrations in November or shipped to them
- 1:11:45after the conclusions. There may be even more special things about these decks than
- 1:11:50that. See, that's but that that statement along with the special decks,
- 1:11:58that's what's frustrating. But the press, we just don't know what's there.
- 1:12:01What? No, No, it's the new it's the new winners. I
- 1:12:05think it's there. Yeah, but even just to be listed in the Hall
- 1:12:09of Fame and you're you could be in my Hall of Fame. Thanks.
- 1:12:15I appreciate that. The Wookie Hall of Fame first entry you walked, junior.
- 1:12:18I mean, where's our Southerly we make this happen? It's so what
- 1:12:25again? This is my whole frustration with this year, when you're going into
- 1:12:28twenty four, only top Vault winner is actually going ahead and getting put into
- 1:12:33this pool. If you happen to go ahead and make it in more than
- 1:12:38one where you win a Sealed or Alliance or an ARCon, you're going to
- 1:12:44have an x ray situation where you're now playing at the special event that's going
- 1:12:47to be happening and keep going ahead. That's what they're talking about. Scalaxy's
- 1:12:56plans to use the growing list of Vault Warriors the whole special event to hold
- 1:13:00a special event that will only that only title holders may access. The first
- 1:13:05Vault Warrior Exclusive event will be held the day before key Ford celebrations in November.
- 1:13:12Additional details of the exact nature of the event will be announced at a
- 1:13:15later date. This is the backrubs. Yeah, these are the I'm just
- 1:13:20saying, like, I love it. But if you're in two spots,
- 1:13:25now you it's you don't get two backrubs and you're not you're not playing ark
- 1:13:35On on your left and Sealed on your Light on your right. It's just
- 1:13:40it, it's mind boggling, this decision process. But that's where I am.
- 1:13:46I don't know. I think this is good. I like this is
- 1:13:54not good for them. Yeah, I like dead sinks things. That's the
- 1:13:57event where asked Vault Warriors for their annual membership. Do yah how they fund
- 1:14:08the next wall to her? I understand your frustration, but at the have
- 1:14:15you have So you have seven from last year and we have ten from this
- 1:14:19year, so we have seventeen. Yep, that's too many and then only
- 1:14:27only only for seal you'll have ten. That's fine. Uh yeah, I
- 1:14:32guess the way this words, I don't think you're past what you won matters.
- 1:14:39None of them referenced arc On Hall of Fame like Hall of Year,
- 1:14:44like it's just you're in the Hall of Heroes, and then this reference and
- 1:14:47exclusive the exclusive event. I think there is only going to be one event
- 1:14:53for the Hall of Heroes this year. Oh and it's only one style.
- 1:14:57That would be it because like normally all their other stuff has in the past
- 1:15:00clarified that you are the Arkon World Invite, Alliance, World Invite, et
- 1:15:06cetera. Just like this year was sealed. This is the only place they
- 1:15:10like homogenized everything, so I would expect everyone that is all a hero person
- 1:15:15to be able to participate in whatever the single of it ends up being,
- 1:15:20which you know, could be donate money or something. I don't know.
- 1:15:26It's gonna be the green room. You're gonna have M and m's backs.
- 1:15:30They're gonna I don't know. Shouldn't there be a red room, a yellow
- 1:15:35room, a blue room. Oh yeah, you're right, Yeah, la'st
- 1:15:40The new key color is green. You know what they're gonna be like.
- 1:15:43They're gonna be like, hey, uh so, you guys want a very
- 1:15:46special opportunity to help pack up the next game. That's gonna be the misprise.
- 1:15:51You're gonna get a green That would be fantastic if they pulled everybody.
- 1:15:56Hey, you guys get to help package embers guys that you won't feel so
- 1:16:01fast. The dinner is whoever fack, you're just the most that's the event.
- 1:16:09You get one special deck for packaging the most numbers guys. That's right.
- 1:16:14Oh yeah, Oh, wouldn't that be a kick in the pants.
- 1:16:18Now it's gonna happen bank dinner. Yeah, there you go. Let's see
- 1:16:25a movie together, So go out attend a vault if you can. I'm
- 1:16:30going to try to get to this year. I'm gonna attempt to go to
- 1:16:35all of them. We'll see, I will go to San Antonio. None
- 1:16:42of these are conflicts for me, so we'll say Vegas is a definite conflict
- 1:16:46for me. That is my daughter's birthday. I don't like Maryland, no
- 1:16:55offense. I just don't like you. It's a long story. We'll go
- 1:17:00over in another time. New York has no Maryland like you. Yeah,
- 1:17:06New York has no conflicts for me, but that might be too close to
- 1:17:12April. Just really all depends. But san Antonio no conflicts. Let's go.
- 1:17:17I can. I can. And it was as willing to put me
- 1:17:19up underneath his shed so they can't hear me snore. I might be in
- 1:17:26Okay, do you have an arrest warrant in Maryland? So just I answers
- 1:17:35dress Me and Maryland don't get along. It has to deal with a tire
- 1:17:40and just fuck that place. I don't like it, like it just certain
- 1:17:45states. Just had a terrible, awful experience in and I don't ever want
- 1:17:47to go back. Did you get did you guys see do you honestly feel
- 1:17:53that this distribution was what you were expecting? Kind of well, it was
- 1:18:01in the realm based on what they hinted. I didn't exactly know what to
- 1:18:05expect because I didn't this is actually well, so I'll say this like a
- 1:18:11little bit no, because it's more aligned to what they said the season was
- 1:18:15going to be than I expected, given how late we were hearing about it.
- 1:18:19Okay, I expected to have multiple vault tours beyond the dates that they
- 1:18:25said there was going to be because they weren't able to schedule the ones early
- 1:18:30enough. Let's just isn't just halftime baby, No, I'm just kidding.
- 1:18:34I don't I have an idea, but I mean, I'm just there's I'm
- 1:18:39just like, I'm super disappointed and like, well, I guess we have
- 1:18:43to wait and see. I'm not going to get angry till I get angry.
- 1:18:45Said for what it's well, I think we have five five vaults.
- 1:18:51I think that's a huge celebration point for us. I think that they're doing
- 1:18:56a nice job at being able to connect with some very large stores and spaces.
- 1:19:01It's earlier than I anticipated. I think there's a heavier influence on the
- 1:19:05East coast then I was anticipating, versus like southeast or West. I think
- 1:19:12the West Coast really kind of took a hammering here. But I'm happy that
- 1:19:16we have vaults. I'm happy that we have events. I'm happy we have
- 1:19:18dates and we can actually start to plan because that was needed for a very
- 1:19:24long time. I hope that we can set up something like this in the
- 1:19:27future going forward. I mean, I hope to see many of the key
- 1:19:30Forge family members out there at these events. Unfortunately, I cannot make the
- 1:19:34May third to fifth. I cheap and I do a charity board game convention
- 1:19:40every year, and I already have that with my other good friend Steve,
- 1:19:44so shut out mech Bunny and with my wife as well, So that weekend
- 1:19:48is out. That's also my birthday weekend. But San Antonio is an option.
- 1:19:53I typically am up north putting in Peers because Memorial Day weekend this is
- 1:20:00a big weekend. And then the fourteenth, sixteenth from Maryland is right before
- 1:20:03we go to Disney, so it's not off the plates, but it's not
- 1:20:12on the plate either. The good news is that I am actually not in
- 1:20:15school. Then the last day finishes about a week before on the seventh,
- 1:20:23so this year it's early. Next year it's the fourteenth, But there's some
- 1:20:27possibilities for me to see people out, so hopefully I'll be able to do
- 1:20:30that. And unfortunately, I'd love to go to China, Vietnam, Germany,
- 1:20:33Italy, or Spain, but I'm going to say that those unfortunately are
- 1:20:36out right now. Probably not right. Yeah, although we are talking about
- 1:20:41going to Germany this year. My wife has a friend who lived there like
- 1:20:45a Germany's exchanged student back from high school, so she's been wanting to go
- 1:20:50visit. So who knows. If they say a date that I don't know,
- 1:20:57we'll see. Probably not all right. Well, with that being said,
- 1:21:02thank you for everyone that joined us for Wednesday edition. Normally we record
- 1:21:08on Thursdays, but news came out so we figured it was going to happen.
- 1:21:13I also leave on Friday, so this actually kind of works out perfect
- 1:21:15because I'm going to the Dells this weekend, so they'll give me time to
- 1:21:18put this up tomorrow before I go to the Dells. So the dentist the
- 1:21:27Dells, Wisconsin Dells, the water park capital of the world. Oh wow,
- 1:21:33I'm going to the water park and I'm going to put this whale.
- 1:21:39Actually it's all indoor because it just which which kid's birthday, is it?
- 1:21:44No, no kid's birthday. There was a good deal and we had to
- 1:21:48take care. We had to take advantage. Yeah, I get that post
- 1:21:54wookie birthday though. Yeah. No, I'm yeah, my birthday was last
- 1:21:58well this month. But but I'm going to the Dallas. I'm gonna have
- 1:22:05fun. I'm gonna take my top off. O. That's I mean,
- 1:22:12I might, you know, I'm I'm I'm wondering this year, so I
- 1:22:15want to go to two and I'm wondering if this year if I just go
- 1:22:18topless or if I try to like suit up right, do I like try
- 1:22:24to find like some kind of like really awfully shnazzy suit to suit up in?
- 1:22:29Mm hmmm? Or do because I could be the vault for the vaults,
- 1:22:33absolutely for the vaults, so I can I could be the professor.
- 1:22:36I can show up in some shitty suit and suck at the game. Yeah,
- 1:22:43just saying, I mean, yeah, you should just wear a Wookie
- 1:22:47outfit. That's not an of the realm of things that I could do.
- 1:22:54Why not? I might have a Halloween costume that is also a Wookie.
- 1:23:00Here cal weird story? Would that be excited? We'll see y'all next week,
- 1:23:06Happy foraging everyone, May the Forge be with you. Yeah. Whatever
- 1:23:12she's supposed to say here, she doesn't say anything. He just keeps grumpy.
- 1:23:16Yeah, grumway joking. Wisoss my God away? Wilson take over the
- 1:23:30Knife down the Ways