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  Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. Here's Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It is Monday,
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  Speaker 2: August 31st.
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  Speaker 4: It is time.
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  Speaker 2: For this season to start, we've got a roster of
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  Speaker 2: 53 players. Probably won't be the same roster of 53
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  Speaker 2: players in a few hours. But as we do this
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  Speaker 2: Monday morning, we've got what we've got. Cowboys made a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of moves yesterday. 39 to be exact to get
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  Speaker 2: down officially to 53. Did it by waivers, released. No,
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  Speaker 2: they're not the same thing. But still... Cut is cut, right?
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  Speaker 2: 35 guys got cut. A couple of guys got put
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  Speaker 2: on injured reserve to return. One of them waived injured.
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  Speaker 2: One was traded away. So I think they were at
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  Speaker 2: 92 technically after the trade to get Broderick Jones over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, which Saturday's trade to get Broderick Jones may
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  Speaker 2: not have been the best if you were looking at
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  Speaker 2: it and going, man, why'd they get this? Why'd they
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  Speaker 2: trade for that? Once you see what they did on
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  Speaker 2: Sunday with Nate Thomas, it makes sense for me, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with that move and that swap, knowing
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  Speaker 2: that you might have a little bit more potential and
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  Speaker 2: upside there in Broderick Jones, and I don't see a
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  Speaker 2: big risk in what they gave up and what they
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  Speaker 2: were doing there for him, so to try to get
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  Speaker 2: better at the swing tackle position. All right, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff to talk about.
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  Speaker 5: 888-855-2297.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go right to it, Irene.
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  Speaker 6: Is first.
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  Speaker 2: Irene, Falls Church, Virginia.
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  Speaker 7: Irene, what's up?
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  Speaker 8: Good morning.
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  Speaker 9: Big day.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, sad day for a lot of people, but
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  Speaker 8: luckily a good number of them will come back either
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  Speaker 8: to us or other teams. So I guess not the
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  Speaker 8: end of their journey necessarily, but tough day for a
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  Speaker 8: lot too. So it's a lot of upheaval. So, you know,
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  Speaker 8: mindful of that, I will say I am happy to
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  Speaker 8: see that the whole idea of competition culture was actually
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  Speaker 8: embraced by this stuff. Um, And, you know, like Malik Davis,
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  Speaker 8: I honestly thought might be a roster cut just because
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  Speaker 8: they figured they could get him back to the practice squad. And,
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  Speaker 8: you know, kind of roster manipulation. I think he earned
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  Speaker 8: that number two spot. So they did the right thing
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  Speaker 8: in terms of that and gave it to the person
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  Speaker 8: who earned it. You touched on the Nate Thomas thing
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  Speaker 8: and Roderick Jones. I think they basically... move down two rounds.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 8: And I think we had, there was craziness on, on
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  Speaker 8: X about how terrible move it was and how they overpaid.
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  Speaker 8: They knew, I'm sure they were working with the Texans
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  Speaker 8: on the Nate Thomas trade to know now, okay, we're
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  Speaker 8: just moving down one round, both around the third and
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  Speaker 8: the six, we're moving down to fourth and seven for
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  Speaker 8: the upgrade. So I'm fine with that. We'll see if
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  Speaker 8: it works out, but I didn't think I thought they
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  Speaker 8: would cut Nate Thomas.
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  Speaker 11: To be honest.
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  Speaker 8: So it makes sense to do it this way. Um,
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  Speaker 8: only quick, quick question, Kobe Durant and Kenny Moore, the
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  Speaker 8: two names I see. Oh, might we find them? If
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  Speaker 8: you have any comment on that, cause they're both not
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  Speaker 8: on the team. Um, I will take it off there.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on. Say that again. What's that last part?
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  Speaker 7: Uh, Kobe, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 11: Not Kobe Durant.
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  Speaker 8: Um, Kobe Bryant and, um, kenny moore are the two
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  Speaker 8: cornerbacks who are i believe still unsigned um not on
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  Speaker 8: a team on another team and uh is there any
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  Speaker 8: potential interest.
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  Speaker 2: There gotcha okay all right thanks um thanks for the
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  Speaker 2: call you know you mentioned that a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: have said this i've heard this a couple times about
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  Speaker 2: you know you cut these players a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: are coming back they cut 35 guys really 36 if
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  Speaker 2: you count the player waved injured so you know, 36
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  Speaker 2: players and they can get 16 on the practice squad,
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  Speaker 2: you know, will those 16 all be from the 36 cuts?
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  Speaker 2: Not likely. Most of them will be, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think most of them will be from the guys that
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  Speaker 2: are here and, you know, that's what they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: build is the players that know this team, know the roster,
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  Speaker 2: know the plays, all that stuff. So, but, but Even so,
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  Speaker 2: that's 20 guys that aren't coming back, at least to
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  Speaker 2: this team. So it is a significant day, like you said.
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  Speaker 2: As for the cornerbacks, you know, there's Cowboys cut three
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  Speaker 2: or four, five maybe, you know, corners. I would imagine
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  Speaker 2: every team did. So that's, you know, you're looking at
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  Speaker 2: over 120, 150, somewhere cornerbacks available. How many are better
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  Speaker 2: than Kalen Carson? How many are better than Amir Speed?
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  Speaker 2: Speed's a guy that they like, and if you listen
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  Speaker 2: to Shoddy, he was telling you that he liked Speed,
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  Speaker 2: and I threw that out there a little bit. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know if he would make it. He did make it,
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  Speaker 2: and right now there's guys that are going to be
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  Speaker 2: off this roster that are on it right now. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anything is safe just yet. You know,
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  Speaker 2: those final four or five spots. Cornelius, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: made it. Tyrus Wheat, a little surprised that he made
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  Speaker 2: it over Sam Williams. But, you know, it's all about
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  Speaker 2: what they're asking these guys to do. Let's go to
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  Speaker 2: Joe in Stanford as our next caller.
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  Speaker 10: Joe.
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  Speaker 4: Morning, brother.
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  Speaker 10: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 5: Good.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 11: Great, man. So the first day I was out in Oxnard,
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  Speaker 11: Number 39 is what I called him that whole day
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  Speaker 11: because I didn't know who the hell he was. Speed,
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  Speaker 11: he made several plays. He made a play against Lamb
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  Speaker 11: in the end zone and a couple other plays. And
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  Speaker 11: I was like, man, who is this guy? And it
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  Speaker 11: looks like my eyes didn't fail me. And you had
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  Speaker 11: talked about him, too. I'm glad he made the team.
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  Speaker 11: I like his physique. And I think, like Shotty has
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  Speaker 11: been saying, he's, you know, letting them compete. And I
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  Speaker 11: think that guy competed himself into a roster spot, which
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  Speaker 11: I love.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 11: Do you know anything about that runner from Rife, Connors,
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  Speaker 11: that the Rams cut?
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  Speaker 2: I don't, honestly. Running back?
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  Speaker 11: I've got a YouTube video.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, running back.
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  Speaker 11: He looks like the type of guy that can fit
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  Speaker 11: in what we need in our third running back spot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: And the Rams are talking about how they want him
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  Speaker 11: back on the practice squad. Of course, that's what everybody says.
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  Speaker 11: But I like the way that guy looks.
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  Speaker 4: Questions.
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  Speaker 11: Um, how does, where are the Cowboys at in like
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  Speaker 11: waiver order and how does that actually work? The waiver,
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  Speaker 11: can you claim more than one guy at once? How
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  Speaker 11: does that all work?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, good, good question. My understanding is, is that waiver
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  Speaker 2: order is still the same from the draft. So nothing
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  Speaker 2: has changed there. And then you, you just, um, you
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  Speaker 2: claim like, let's say the Raiders wanted to claim like
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  Speaker 2: four guys, um, They can, and they will, but it
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  Speaker 2: goes in the order. It's kind of like a draft.
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  Speaker 2: They don't just get four in a row. They get one,
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  Speaker 2: and then it goes almost like rounds, where they want
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  Speaker 2: to take four rounds, but the difference is not everyone's
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  Speaker 2: claiming someone. So it's like, all right, how many claims
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  Speaker 2: are there? How many teams have a claim?
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  Speaker 4: Nine.
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  Speaker 2: All right. How many teams have multiple claims? Well, three.
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  Speaker 2: So then it's like, let's get these nine. Then it
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  Speaker 2: goes into the next round. You know, these three teams have,
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  Speaker 2: have a, you know, a second claim. So you're going
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  Speaker 2: to get a chance to, you know, you, you get,
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  Speaker 2: if the Cowboys want to claim someone, they, they, they will.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm sure everybody kind of puts in
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  Speaker 2: at least one or two claims. Um, but it goes
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  Speaker 2: in the order of like, like a draft. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that made, made sense, but, um, Just think
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  Speaker 2: of it like this. The Raiders can get anybody they
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  Speaker 2: want because they have the first claim. But if there's
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  Speaker 2: two guys that they want, then there's a chance that
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  Speaker 2: one of the other teams might jump in there. Let
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  Speaker 2: me go back to something that Irene was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really address the trade so much. I did earlier,
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  Speaker 2: but what she said moves down a round. They gave
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  Speaker 2: a third and a sixth. to Pittsburgh for Broderick Jones.
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  Speaker 2: They got a fourth back from Pittsburgh, and then they
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  Speaker 2: ended up getting a seventh from Houston for Nate Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter where the picks go. They traded
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  Speaker 2: their third and sixth next year. and Nate Thomas, and
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  Speaker 2: they got Broderick Jones for a fourth and a seventh.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what she was saying about they basically just
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  Speaker 2: slid down from the third to the fourth and from
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  Speaker 2: the sixth to the seventh. We saw last year– I mean,
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  Speaker 2: not last year, last April, where you can turn those
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  Speaker 2: picks and quickly move around and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So that being said, I think they kind of knew
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  Speaker 2: what they were going to have with Nate Thomas, and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and– I don't worry about, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: got to ask this on the radio about Pittsburgh media
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  Speaker 2: is laughing at the Cowboys right now for taking this guy,
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  Speaker 2: Broderick Jones, and laughing at this guy because they had
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  Speaker 2: him and he wasn't very good here. And now the
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys think they can do something with him because he
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  Speaker 2: was a high draft pick and he didn't. materialize, and
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  Speaker 2: good luck with him. And my response was, are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about Pickens, or are you talking about Roderick Jones?
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm pretty sure they said the same thing about
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  Speaker 2: this wild child wide receiver named George Pickens, who good
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  Speaker 2: luck with him. Tomlin couldn't. couldn't you know handle him
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  Speaker 2: but now he goes to the cowboys and he's you
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  Speaker 2: know he's second team all pro and franchise player so
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  Speaker 2: all i'm saying is his fresh charts are good for
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  Speaker 2: people sometimes they're good for the cowboys um chris just
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  Speaker 2: pointed out thanks chris the claim number is 12 um
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  Speaker 2: which is pretty i mean where they that's where they
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  Speaker 2: picked they picked 12 um now obviously they traded down
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  Speaker 2: to get 11 for um caleb downs but That was
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  Speaker 2: their claiming order, and that's where it stands. I believe, though,
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  Speaker 2: when the season starts– I could be wrong with it.
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  Speaker 2: I think when the season starts, it starts to go
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  Speaker 2: to your record of where you are once games are
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  Speaker 2: played and all that.
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  Speaker 11: It does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you're the worst team in the league,
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  Speaker 2: if you're 0-5, I mean, if you won the Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl and you're 0-5, you now have the top claiming order.
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  Speaker 2: So it does. But until then.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, it does not adjust because you traded. Does that
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  Speaker 12: make sense?
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  Speaker 9: It does not adjust because of that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Albert in Tucson.
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  Speaker 4: Albert.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, my man.
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, brother.
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  Speaker 4: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: You're trying to get on that all storyline team. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the first thing you told me, you're like, man, I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting on that. I'm calling. I'm calling.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 5: But remember, you said it's not just calling. It's more
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  Speaker 5: than that.
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  Speaker 2: It's more than that. I mean, it definitely is. It
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  Speaker 2: definitely is calling, but it's also more than that. It's being...
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's, it's having a, you know, good opinions, good,
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  Speaker 2: good debate, good discussion, all that good stuff. Good jokes.
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  Speaker 5: Amen to that. Good jokes. You know, that's the best
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  Speaker 5: thing about life is, you know, I know there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of, you know, bad and, and, and this world,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, you also have the, the, the opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to laugh and, and smile every day.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely. Definitely.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm, I'm smiling on my Dallas Cowboys because, um,
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  Speaker 5: I kind of wasn't surprised them cutting Sam Williams. I
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  Speaker 5: think his off the field and his costly penalties at
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  Speaker 5: big-time moments definitely got him off the roster. But the
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  Speaker 5: question I got is the way... Okay, so... The way
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking at this roster, and I've seen all the
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  Speaker 5: guys go, that were kind of not standouts, but they
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  Speaker 5: kind of flashed a little bit in the pan. But
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  Speaker 5: does it look like Shadi has more control of his roster?
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  Speaker 5: That's all I got. And thank you for everything. Thank
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  Speaker 5: Chris for everything.
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  Speaker 4: And go Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Uh, yeah, I, I think he does, uh, have,
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  Speaker 2: have control of the roster. Um, you guys aren't going
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  Speaker 2: to believe this, but I mean, I, I kind of
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  Speaker 2: think the head coach has always had pretty good control
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  Speaker 2: over the roster. Um, I mean, yes, the general manager
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  Speaker 2: is going to make decisions and, and, and, and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and go off the input of, of, of the scouting department,
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  Speaker 2: Will McClay and go off of the head coach as well. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I just find it hard to believe, and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: trying to get into this debate on anything, but I
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  Speaker 2: find it hard to believe that at any point since
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  Speaker 2: Jerry bought the team, that the head coach stood on
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  Speaker 2: the table for this guy over this guy, and especially
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  Speaker 2: players that they've been coaching all camp, all season, for
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  Speaker 2: a few years, whatever, to say, I know this guy,
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  Speaker 2: I know this guy, this guy's going to help us win.
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  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, that's, I don't, I find it
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  Speaker 2: hard to believe that, that they haven't, that any head
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  Speaker 2: coach hasn't really gotten his way there. Does it happen
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  Speaker 2: all the time?
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  Speaker 10: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Did Bill Parcells really want T.O.? No, probably not. He
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  Speaker 2: lost that one. That was a marketing thing. And a
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  Speaker 2: good football thing. I mean, he was a great football
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  Speaker 2: player too. So, but my My point to that is
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  Speaker 2: I think Shotty does have control in the roster. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, final say, I don't know about final say,
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  Speaker 2: but if he wants a player and he thinks this
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  Speaker 2: guy is better than this guy, then I think that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they'll go to that. And I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 2: that's what happened. Let's go to Brian in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, sir.
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  Speaker 2: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 6: I'm hungry. I'm 22 and a half hours in to
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  Speaker 6: a 24-hour fast.
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  Speaker 13: Oof.
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  Speaker 2: Man, at this point, everything sounds good, right?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I'm just telling you, Nick. Thank God the splash
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  Speaker 6: screen doesn't have food on it.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: As I'm watching the little build-up screen before you guys
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  Speaker 6: come on, I'm like, man, it's a good thing there's
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  Speaker 6: no nachos or anything on there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good luck with that. You're almost there. You're the...
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  Speaker 2: You're in the fourth quarter, all right? You're in the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter. It doesn't sound like it's the two-minute warning.
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  Speaker 2: You just got to get through it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the last bit of it, man.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, I want to give some... I'm going to say
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  Speaker 10: I'm going to give some clarification. I'm going to say
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  Speaker 10: what I believe is the accurate thing about how waivers works.
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  Speaker 10: And either I could have misunderstood or I'm wrong, which
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  Speaker 10: is possible. I mean, I've never been wrong before, but,
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  Speaker 10: you know, there's a first time for everything.
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  Speaker 6: I think... The way the waivers work is the Raiders
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  Speaker 6: get first pick no matter how many times they use it.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter if there's three guys they want, they're
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  Speaker 6: still first in all three guys.
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  Speaker 2: I find that hard to believe.
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  Speaker 6: That's the way I understand it. I have heard that.
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  Speaker 6: That doesn't mean the person that said that, and I
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  Speaker 6: heard it recently, The person that said that is not
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  Speaker 6: one of the people who's like a pro professional guy
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  Speaker 6: that turned media like it's not one of those guys.
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  Speaker 6: It's somebody that is in media and could obviously be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just so if you think about that, what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying is, is you're saying the Raiders get to
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  Speaker 2: get to have like to say that they wanted 10
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  Speaker 2: guys that were, you know, they get them all.
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  Speaker 6: Well, keep in mind, though, they still have to make
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  Speaker 6: 10 corresponding roster moves if they do that. Sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's why it doesn't happen. But you're saying
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  Speaker 2: if they want 10 guys, they get 10 guys. And
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  Speaker 2: the second team, whoever picks second, I don't know, was
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  Speaker 2: that Tennessee? I don't remember.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Whoever picked second. No, it wasn't Tennessee. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that that team gets gets five guys. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so if you're 32nd, you're saying you might not get
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  Speaker 2: 100 players. Now, there's no way there's no way that
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  Speaker 2: that that could be right. There's no way.
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  Speaker 4: And there could be.
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  Speaker 6: You know what? And I didn't do what I always
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  Speaker 6: say I do, which is go to a second source
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  Speaker 6: and try to find out. But I couldn't think of anybody.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: And you know what?
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: I could have called Post Game Show because Broadus was
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: on this week. I could have called the Post Game
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: Show and asked him.
• 17:27
  Speaker 10: And I didn't.
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: So anyway, I didn't bet it on a second source. Somehow, someway,
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: I'll find the answer, though, because I just– now I'm
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: curious whether that's true or not. And just, you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: it is what it is.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's the same thing that happens if
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you play fantasy football. It's the same thing. It's the same–
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: it's the claiming. I mean, like, you get rounds. So
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: if you want to claim someone, you can claim someone.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: But then the next claiming guy is going to get
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the next one. So you can't sit there.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: Moves up one spot to the next.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 17:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Roger that.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: My question this week is, because I heard Broderick Jones
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: is returning from spinal fusion surgery, which obviously Cowboys fans
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: will all know that we had a famous player that
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: played with that. But I'm just curious, going through the
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: medical process, how long does that take? Like, will we
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: ever know whether or not he cleared that process? So
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: obviously when he was in Pittsburgh, Dr. Cooper, you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: nobody could look at him, right? So now somebody's going
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: to look at him. I'm just curious, what's that process?
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: How long does it take once they get to the city?
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: And I'll hang up and listen, brother.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Well, you know, he obviously, and he
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: did play, he played those three preseason games. So, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: cleared to play there, but he'll come here. and usually
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: when trades work like that, you, they, you know, have
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: a physical and they, and they'll, you know, they'll pass him. And,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and if they don't, then, then, you know, it could
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: go back and they, they could, they could, you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: rescind the trade if, if they, if they wanted to,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: to go that, that route. So, um, but usually just
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: with anybody, they, they come here, they, they take a
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: physical and, and, you know, sort of the, the team
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: doctors can see what they're, what they're dealing with. And, um,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you know, and, and I'm, I'm, you don't necessarily pass
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: them because you can't, you can trade a player that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: that's injured. But you know, if, if, if it seems
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: like the player has an injury that they, that's worse
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: than that, they said, or an injury, they didn't even,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you know, let the teams know about, then, then you
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: can make a, you know, you can go back and say,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you can call off the trade if they wanted to
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: do that. That rarely happens. I don't see that necessarily
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: happen in this case. um again you know the teams
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the the cowboys are i don't know if all teams
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: do it but i'm pretty sure they do the cowboys
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: have you know people aside in their scouting department that
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that are assigned to all these teams you know every
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: every scout has two to three teams that they really
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: focus on that they study, they know the ins and
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: outs of their roster, they know who's hurt, they know
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: everything about that team and what's going on. So when
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: a situation like this happens, they can call up the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: scout and be like, what's going on with Broderick Jones?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: What's going on? I'm sure it's happening with guys that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: are trying to claim off waivers. How much did he play?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Why did he not make the team? Those kind of things.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So I think the Cowboys have done their homework here
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: as much as they could. All right, let's go to...
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Josh in Chicago.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Hey, man. How you doing?
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: Good.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: How are you doing?
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: Not bad.
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: I got to go back, though. I got to say,
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: go back into March. I got a point here to make,
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: but I'm going to call myself out. I said I
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: had big hopes for Sam Williams, and last week I
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: called and I said, hey, we can't let Blue off
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: his team, and they're both gone.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: But what I will say is, I really like the
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: approach by this staff to not keep people around if
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: they don't feel that they're living up to their potential
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: or doing it right. Like Jay Toye, there's another guy
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: that I was like really hoping for that he could,
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: you got that big guy in the middle there, you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: you want to see something more from him and he
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: just wasn't living up to it. So I really liked
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: the approach from this coaching staff, being able to cut
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: ties with draft picks and other people if they're just
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: not making it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, and now, You do that to a certain degree.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: You also try to make sure that you're developing guys
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: as well. So there's a fine line there, you know.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, and they've cut some seventh-round picks. You know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Moffitt was cut. Toya was cut. You know, they cut
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Sam Williams, the second-round pick, you know. I mean, he
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: came back from unrestricted free agency. But, you know, they kept, like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Drew Shelton, who really, you know, he didn't play– to
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: that standard yet, but, but at some point you're trying
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: to see if these guys will develop. So there's, like
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I said, it's a fine line there. You don't want to,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: you don't want to jump too early there, but if
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you think you've seen kind of what they're going to be, then,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: then yeah, don't be afraid to, to play, you know, to,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: you know, and they did that with this year, seventh round.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, Camden Brown was better than Anthony Smith.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: So, you know, even though, even go ahead.
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: Oh, sorry.
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: I was just going to say even Mingo, right? Like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: Mingo was kind of on the bubble even last year
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: and didn't really have much playing time, but we saw
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: stride taken this year to develop better, and then also
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: his special teams play looked better. To your point, there's
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: a balance there, but there's certainly guys that showed that
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: they are working hard and they are getting better and developing.
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying that's Sam and Blue Worm, but... clearly
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: not to the level that this staff thought they needed
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: to be.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Right, right. Yeah, I mean, and I was with you
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: on that. You know, I thought Blue would make the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: team kind of for that reason, just because he's got
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: traits that, you know, he's fast, he's quick, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and you want him to kind of take that next step. But,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't see him coming back, honestly. I mean,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I think that there's some guys you would try to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: get back, but I don't think you're bringing him back. And,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you know, ironically enough, The reasons why it didn't really
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: work out, you kind of saw it, you know, even
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: after he was cut, if you know on that. But,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you know, it's one of those things. It is what
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it is, and they can find more. And this guy
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: was a fifth-round pick. You know what I mean? So
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like this was a high pick. He's just
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: got a memorable name, and he's a flashy player at
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a big school and all that stuff. But, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: there was a reason he went to the fifth round
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: in the first place.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: 100%. What do you think about Israel? Do you think
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: they'll get him back? And I'll take it off the air.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Thanks, Josh.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the guy they would want more
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: than any. Now, they did cut him, but I think
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: that they feel like they can maybe get him back. And, yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I think he's a guy that plays for you against
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the Giants. if he comes back to the practice squad.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I think him or Moffa would come back, and one
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of those runners will probably be active and play in
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the game. I could see him doing it linebacker too,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: whether it be a guy like Justin Barron, maybe they
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: come back, or Curtis Robinson, or who knows, maybe it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Sam Williams. Maybe he comes back, and he's a guy
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: that is elevated in plays. He can give you some
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: pass rush ability. He also can play on special teams.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. Guys that are cut yesterday
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: are going to play more than some of the guys
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that were kept. That's just the fact of how this
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: roster will work. So, for instance, Sam Williams could come
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: back to the practice squad and play. Now, not every
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: week because there's only three elevations, but he could play
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: for the first three games and James Houston is inactive
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: or Tyrus Wheat is inactive. So you guys know the rules.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to dummy it down for you guys.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: You know the rules. I'm just saying that that type
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: of roster manipulation was factored in when they made these cuts.
• 25:15
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  Speaker 2: Sean in Columbia, South Carolina has been holding. Sean, what's up, man?
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  Speaker 14: Hey, Nick.
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  Speaker 4: How you doing, man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you?
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm good. My first time calling you on
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: your show. It's not my first time talking to you, though.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: No, it's not your first time, but we used to
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: call the break all the time, but I don't think
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you've called storyline. So you know what that means.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: No, I haven't.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: You know what that means. There we go, there we go.
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• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very good, very good. And listen, I don't,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I think that with all the decisions that were made,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I don't really disagree with any of them except for
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: maybe one. And that's where I was kind of wanting
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: to call and ask you if there is any or
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: what moves do you, in your own personal opinion, disagree with?
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: For me, it was Kalen Carson. I really felt like
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: he didn't outplay the other corners that we cut. But,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: you know, I understand it's a numbers thing. So, you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: maybe that was the reason why, you know, I kind
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: of deferred to the staff on that one, you know.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: But just from the little bit that I watched and read,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I really feel like Kaelin Carson shouldn't have made the team, personally.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: You can see why... You could see why Zayden Blue
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: got cut. You could just watch the maturation process. They
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: couldn't deny Malik Davis. And you could see why Zayden
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Blue ended up losing his job in that situation. I'm
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: kind of surprised that they kept as many receivers as
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: they did. But, again, just kind of going back to, hey,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: the scouts know what they're talking about. The coaches know
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: what they're doing. We're just fans. But, yeah, I wanted
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: to ask you, if there was anyone that you absolutely
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: disagreed with, I wanted to know what that take was.
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: You know, thanks for the call, Sean, and that's a
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: great question, and that's one that I've learned over the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: years that, you know, we see these guys, you know,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: like some of the fans, you know, you guys see
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: them maybe a little bit of clips here on social
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: media and stuff, but most of the time, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the preseason games, and we get a little bit more
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: of that with practice. But as far as film study
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and watching them on tape and seeing all that stuff,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you have to defer to the coaches. on that kind
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: of stuff because it's not just what they've seen. They're
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: also going off of meetings. They're going off of just
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the person, and they know what they're going to get
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: out of this person and how they're going to help
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: them win and how they're going to help themselves develop,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: all of these things. So there's a lot to factor into.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'll also say this about the Kalen Carson move. Let's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: see how things play out. Let's see if he's still
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: one of those guys. Because if there's another corner out there,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: then they might not keep him. And there's... I don't
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: know if it still happens. I don't know if you
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: sneak anything by anybody anymore. But it used to be
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: a thought of you keep.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You cut Kalen Carson. Let's say they want him in
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the practice squad. Let's say he's a guy that they
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: don't know if they can get to the practice squad,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: so they cut him with everybody else. They look at
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: all these corners, and then they say, oh, Carson from Dallas,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: that's pretty good. Let's go add him, and you don't
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: get him on the practice squad. There's a thought that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: maybe if you wait to the next day, and then
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you cut him, that some of the practice squads and
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: everything's already kind of been set, and they're not They're
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: not going to go ahead and make any more moves,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: and you get to keep them. I don't know if
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: that's true. I don't know if you sneak anybody by
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: anybody anymore. But my point is that let's see. You
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: may not be wrong on the Kalen Carson situation on
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: whether he's here or not. I'm trying to think. So
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that being said, what I disagree with, I don't really disagree,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to say that, oh, whatever the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: coaches do is fine. I'm surprised a little bit. I
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: was surprised with the Sam Williams move, but I don't
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: know about disagree. I mean, there's not anybody that was
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: cut that I'm like, you got to have that guy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: This speaks volumes to this football team and this roster.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, Camden Brown made the team. He's the sixth
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: rookie to make it. There's five draft picks that made it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: He's the sixth. There's six rookies on this team. It's
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: not necessarily a super young team. It's very talented. At
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: least it looks that way. And, you know, there's been
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: times I've said that. Like, I don't know how talented
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: this team is compared to others. But this one, I think, is.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It's hard to make this team. I mean, it's hard
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: for a second-year guy. I mean, we saw that. Three
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: of the draft picks from last year just didn't make it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: At least one rookie from this year just couldn't make
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: it either. Drew Shelton is probably here because he was
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: a draft pick. Devin Moore, injured, is also conveniently on
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the team, at least for IR. LT Overton really didn't
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: do a ton for you to say, I don't know
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: if he played better than Jay Toye, but As a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: rookie and a draft pick, he's going to get the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. All right, let's see. We have
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: another caller on the line. Can I update you on something? Yeah.
• 32:56
  Speaker 12: Let's talk about waivers. I was told it's a little
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: difficult to explain, but there's a priority. So you don't
• 33:04
  Speaker 12: get all four guys. Just say the Raiders wanted four guys.
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: They won't get all four guys. There's a priority there. Basically.
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: They will set a priority of who they want on
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: the top of that list, and then it goes down
• 33:17
  Speaker 12: from there.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: It probably goes in like a draft order.
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: It does go through the draft order, but there's a
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: priority list. I was told it's hard to explain, but
• 33:26
  Speaker 12: that's kind of how it goes.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I got it. Again, I go back to fantasy football
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure– the yahoo fantasy probably took it
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: from that from the claiming thing of how the cowboy
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: i mean how they how the nfl does it so
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: same thing you know you can you can put four
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: guys in your claiming order you may not get them
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: all but it's gonna it's gonna go around in in
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a loop there all right let's go to dylan northport florida.
• 33:51
  Speaker 18: Hey how's it going how you doing I'm doing good, dude.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
• 33:55
  Speaker 18: Uh, the Kalen Carson thing, if there was one guy
• 33:57
  Speaker 18: to put money on that, I think they're going to
• 33:59
  Speaker 18: add at a roster spot somewhere and maybe remove somebody.
• 34:03
  Speaker 18: I think that's the spot. And that's probably the guy
• 34:04
  Speaker 18: you got, like a Dory Jackson still out there. No
• 34:07
  Speaker 18: Cowboys fans like, Oh, I got a Dory Jackson. Cause
• 34:09
  Speaker 18: he always whipped his butt every time we played them,
• 34:10
  Speaker 18: but against everybody else, not in the Cowboys is actually
• 34:13
  Speaker 18: pretty good. And I see before that's the guy I
• 34:15
  Speaker 18: got my eyes on. And I'm sure there's other guys too,
• 34:17
  Speaker 18: but that's a spot that I don't think they're settled at,
• 34:20
  Speaker 18: at all.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Um, you know what, Dylan, I, uh, So are you on, like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a Spaces thing or something, like, on Twitter? Like, after
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the draft? I mean, after the cuts last night?
• 34:34
  Speaker 18: Yeah, we were on there for a very long time yesterday, like,
• 34:37
  Speaker 18: during the day, throughout the cuts and all that.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Because I clicked on it. I listened for about 45
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: seconds and maybe a minute. And long enough for a
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: guy to say, what we need to do is trade
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Bland to New England and and get Christian Gonzalez and
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: pay $ 40 million a year for him. Trade Bland for Gonzalez.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And that's when I was like, let me leave this thing.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry. At that point in the conversation,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying all the opinions were that way, and
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I hope whoever said that, I'm not throwing under the bus.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: It was a joke.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: It was a joke.
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: It wasn't for real.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Didn't sound like one.
• 35:15
  Speaker 18: Somebody might have said it, but we spent about a
• 35:17
  Speaker 18: half hour on an ongoing joke about that specific statement.
• 35:22
  Speaker 18: I think Davion was in there. We were having a
• 35:24
  Speaker 18: good time with that one. It was a bit for
• 35:26
  Speaker 18: quite a while.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: It's one of those things.
• 35:30
  Speaker 18: It's like people want to trade somebody that they don't like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 18: and they're like, oh, yeah, another team will take them.
• 35:35
  Speaker 18: You've got to trade somebody you like for somebody that
• 35:37
  Speaker 18: you like. It doesn't hardly ever work that way. If
• 35:39
  Speaker 18: we're going to trade Schoonmaker for... frigging who, like, what
• 35:43
  Speaker 18: are we doing?
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:44
  Speaker 18: But yeah, that was, that was something for sure.
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 13: The thing I wanted to talk about was the running back,
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: obviously here with G and blue. You said last week,
• 35:56
  Speaker 13: and I called in and I said, you asked me
• 35:59
  Speaker 13: if they were going to keep Sam Allen, my opinion.
• 36:00
  Speaker 13: I said, no, but then you said something at the
• 36:02
  Speaker 13: end of the call and it made sense.
• 36:03
  Speaker 19: And you convinced me.
• 36:03
  Speaker 18: And so I started building up my prediction with three quarterbacks.
• 36:07
  Speaker 18: And at that point, I'm like, there's no way in
• 36:09
  Speaker 18: the world. They keep three quarterbacks, four running backs and
• 36:12
  Speaker 18: six receivers. And I want a Camden Brown to make it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 18: And I thought he had done enough to make it.
• 36:16
  Speaker 18: And I thought there was a good chance he'd get
• 36:17
  Speaker 18: scooped up if he didn't make it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: So I thought Malik Davis would be the guy that.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: Would be out.
• 36:22
  Speaker 18: And then, you know, practice squad elevation guy, Phil Moffa,
• 36:24
  Speaker 18: practice squad elevation guy if needed. But credit to Malik Davis, bro.
• 36:29
  Speaker 18: You said it early on in the process. You said,
• 36:31
  Speaker 18: don't count him out. He just keeps doing his thing
• 36:33
  Speaker 18: and showing up when he's supposed to. And He did,
• 36:35
  Speaker 18: and he did, and he did, and he did, and
• 36:37
  Speaker 18: now he's here. And so I don't know what the Cowboys'
• 36:40
  Speaker 18: plans are, if they're going to carry four running backs
• 36:42
  Speaker 18: at some point, but I think they're in a decent
• 36:43
  Speaker 18: situation here with, like, a Phil Moffa and whoever else,
• 36:45
  Speaker 18: maybe a Bannaconda, who they want to bring in practice
• 36:48
  Speaker 18: squad-wise for an elevation if needed. But I think most
• 36:52
  Speaker 18: weeks we probably see just the three running backs, and
• 36:54
  Speaker 18: I'm okay with Davis. Now, if there's an injury somewhere,
• 36:57
  Speaker 18: that's where I think it gets a little bit sticky.
• 36:59
  Speaker 18: But with Davis as RB2 and Williams out there, I
• 37:02
  Speaker 18: would say I'm cool with the running back situation, man.
• 37:04
  Speaker 18: I really am.
• 37:04
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am too. And I want, you know, I
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: would love for Jaden Blue, Phil Moffa, and, you know,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Abanaconda to look at what Malik Davis' career path is
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: and say, that could be me. You know, because it's
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: one thing to try to, you know, make the team
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: and all that, but then when you get cut... And
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: then what happens? Think about Malik Davis being out of
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a team last year when the Cowboys went to training camp.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: He wasn't on a team. How do you stay disciplined
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: enough to keep working out, keep being football ready? So
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: when that call does come, you're ready. And the Cowboys
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: called him back. He goes in there, and next thing
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: you know, he's playing in the preseason and playing well
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: and practice squad, and then he gets elevated and has
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: a 100-yard game, scoring on Thanksgiving and all this kind
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of stuff. So it's a credit to him for continuing
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: to fight for his goal, for his journey. And that's
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: what I hope those other running backs and all players,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: for that matter, do.
• 38:12
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I think Jaden Blue could take a Malik Davis
• 38:14
  Speaker 18: pill or two. You said there were some issues maybe
• 38:16
  Speaker 18: behind the scenes. I don't know what that was or whatever.
• 38:19
  Speaker 18: I'm going to have to get into it. But if
• 38:21
  Speaker 18: there's some maturity stuff going on, he certainly could take
• 38:23
  Speaker 18: a lesson from Malik Davis 100%. I mean, he's got
• 38:25
  Speaker 18: the talent. It's just a matter of can he optimize
• 38:28
  Speaker 18: it and put it where it's supposed to be. Real
• 38:31
  Speaker 18: quick with Sam Liams, I just wanted to ask you,
• 38:32
  Speaker 18: because his contract, they owed him $ 2 million guaranteed. So
• 38:35
  Speaker 18: if he does get brought back, like practice squad and elevated,
• 38:38
  Speaker 18: He gets his $ 2 million, but then does he get
• 38:40
  Speaker 18: something else, too, on top of that? Maybe you can
• 38:42
  Speaker 18: answer that, and I'll let you go.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Dylan. My understanding, and I did some
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: research on it with Sam Howell, is that the Cowboys
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: owed him $ 2 million guaranteed salary. If they cut him
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: and put him on the practice squad, practice squad's $ 400, 000, $ 500, 000,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: something like that, whatever it is, that's new money. That's
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: a new transaction that he double dips and he goes
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: on there. or if you cut him and you bring
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: him back to the team for a base, just a
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: veteran minimum, which is about a million, he gets that
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: on top of it. So anything that's guaranteed is guaranteed.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: So he'll get that on top of it. It makes
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: more sense to put him on the practice watch, Sam
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Williams now, because I believe his guarantee is like 1.5 maybe.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: So it's complicated, you know, and that's what happens when
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: you do that and you put the guarantees on these
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: players and you're doing that so they'll sign with you
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: and not someone else. It's one of those things. But
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: when it gets down to it, you know, you hope
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: that they perform. All right, let's go to Chris in
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Saratoga Springs. What's up, Chris?
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: How are you, buddy?
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: Not too bad.
• 39:56
  Speaker 19: I just want to give you guys a shout-out on
• 39:57
  Speaker 19: those two blue episodes there with Tony D and the
• 40:02
  Speaker 19: Thanksgiving ones.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Well done. They were great. Love them.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: Great job.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I haven't finished Tony D yet. I know it's a
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: longer one. That wasn't one project that I was on.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: And so I haven't seen all of it. I watched,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of it. I hadn't even got
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to the Cowboys part yet, just some of his Pittsburgh
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania days growing up and all that. So I'm there.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I'm ready for it. It just, the weekend kind of
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: got me there.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: But thank you for saying that. I appreciate that.
• 40:33
  Speaker 14: Oh, no problem.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of hard work is put into those.
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: 100%.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: And you got, it's just fantastic stuff.
• 40:41
  Speaker 19: I saw the writing on the wall a little bit
• 40:42
  Speaker 19: with Sam, them playing him a lot more, trying to
• 40:45
  Speaker 19: get some tape out there. I bet they tried to
• 40:46
  Speaker 19: move him and trade him before they caught him. So
• 40:50
  Speaker 19: I get that move. Jaden Blue, I get that one
• 40:52
  Speaker 19: as well. The only one that I wish we could
• 40:55
  Speaker 19: have kept was Reddy Stewart. He's the one guy that
• 40:58
  Speaker 19: I was hoping would make it. But I guess I
• 41:01
  Speaker 19: only got one question for you. Kandon Brown, is he
• 41:05
  Speaker 19: going to be number 80 or what number do you
• 41:06
  Speaker 19: think he's going to be?
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not going to be six. We'll find that
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: out pretty soon. Eleven is on the table, maybe, for receiver.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: One of those teens that got cut, 15 or 18, maybe.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, 80.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all there. I mean, there's going to be
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: some shuffling going on here. My big thing that I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: wonder about is you talk about priority with claiming and
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. I mean, I would think Caleb Downs
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: has the first pick here if he wants to change.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's not a veteran, but.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: At some point, marketing has to play a factor into
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: this and go, all right, let's see how this is
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: going to work. Marquise Bell made it. Marquise Bell, that
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be the situation because Kobe Durant apparently
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: wanted 14 all along. That's what he wanted. Marquise Bell
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: didn't want to move off of that, and so therefore
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Caleb couldn't get two and all that. But I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: it's Patrick Walker who's been saying it for a long
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: time to put him in 11, put Caleb Downs in 11.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he wants two, one plus one is– Two,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: he was the 11th pick, you know.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Makes sense.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Makes sense. It also might make you look a little
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: taller wearing 11 there. I don't know. But anyways, we'll see.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: You know, this is always the time where there's some
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: number changing and stuff like that. It'll happen here in
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: the next few days.
• 42:37
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I think we got another hour and 15 minutes.
• 42:40
  Speaker 19: That's the waiver period, I think. I think it's 1
• 42:44
  Speaker 19: o'clock Eastern Standard, 12 o'clock your time, right, for the
• 42:47
  Speaker 19: waiver period?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I think so. That sounds right. It's not a full
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: 24 hours. I think that you're right on that.
• 42:53
  Speaker 15: Okay.
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: All right, Nick.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I'll let somebody else get in.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thanks for the call, Chris. We're going to
• 42:58
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• 44:38
  Speaker 7: What's up?
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing, bud?
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: I'm good.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: I'm doing much better than I've been in a while.
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: But thoughts and prayers to the people of Nepal and
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: what's going on over there. We love football here, but
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: there's always something bigger going on in the world.
• 44:50
  Speaker 10: Sure.
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: But I just want to do a quick shout-out to
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: the Storyliners. A couple weeks back, I was dealing with
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: some stuff. And let me tell you guys, the Sergeant
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: Sioux really is who he says he is. and there's
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: no one better in this world than Irene. I love
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: her to death, love them to death, and I really
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: appreciate them.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: With that said, Du Bois.
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: Canaan really is fast. I've never seen anyone kill their
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: hype train faster or get on and off the Cowboys
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: that fast either.
• 45:15
  Speaker 11: But I was happy that.
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: They finally put some respect on Malik Davis' name, and
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: they actually rewarded people who show up every day and
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: do what they're supposed to. I was a big Brown fan.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: I'm happy he made the team. I was actually happy
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: with a lot of the cuts that were made as well.
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: we are moving different and I feel like going forward,
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: this team is going to be better for it. But
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: with that said, I'll let the last person get in.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: You guys have a great day. And again, to all
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: the storyliners who reached out to me, I appreciate you guys.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: You guys have a great day.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. And you're right about Sergeant
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Sue and Irene. Those are captains for a reason, not
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: just on the show, but in life, you know, so
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: they just care about others and, and, and you don't
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: have to, grow up with these people to, you know,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: you don't have to, to know these people two or
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: three years ago to, to, you know, be friends with them,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: you know? And, um, I think that's the best thing
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: that's happened on this, on this show is really what,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: what it's, what it's done for, for the fans and
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: united you guys. I say it all the time. I'll
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: say it, uh, you know, a hundred more times probably,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: cause it's really awesome. Um, speaking of that, speaking of culture,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: You know, we have culture, you know, on this podcast,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: we have culture, you know, but from the team standpoint
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: of what you guys are talking about, and Shadi, one
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: of the things he said in the very first press
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: conference that he ever had was that he wants to
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: build the best culture of any sports team in the
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: history of sports. It's pretty lofty, you know, but that's
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: what he's trying to do. That's what he wants to
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: do is build culture. And, you know, it's not overnight.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: And so one of the things, you know, that you
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: have to do is you have to be honest with
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the players. And I think that he's done that. And
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: you want them to come in and work hard and
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: do all these things for what? So they can be rewarded? And,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: you know, there is always politics involved. But if you
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: can minimize them the best way possible, then that's, I
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: think people respect that. And it's gotten to a point
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: now that, you know, A couple of guys that made
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: the team as rookies, are they the best 53 players? No,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: probably not. There's probably an offensive lineman that's playing better
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: than Drew Shelton or maybe corner playing better than Devin
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Moore or, you know, Jay Toya maybe, like I said,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: was playing better than LT Overton. But that's just the
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: way it goes. You know what I mean? You're going
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: to keep these guys because they're young and you drafted
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: them and you want to develop them. but on the
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: flip side, this whole Camden Brown talk, I thought it
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: was just crazy that anyone would think he's not going
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: to make the team because he's done everything possible to
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: make the team. Every time they've thrown him out there,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: and if you don't like how fast he is or
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: how strong he is or whatever it is, then why
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: did you get him in the first place? He's everything
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: you thought he was going to be. He's just a big,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: strong pass catcher who scores touchdowns. That's exactly what he
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: did in the games here. So same with Malik Davis.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: If you're going to bring him back and you want
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: him to compete and he outshines these other guys, then
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: you have to keep him. And if you don't, then
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: you're not doing what you say you're going to do
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: and building culture the right way. That's just my take.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Two more callers. Brandon in Fresno.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: What's up, Nick?
• 48:44
  Speaker 11: What's going on?
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: How are you doing?
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: I'm good.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at the running backs.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: I like Malik Davis.
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: I actually like Hunter Lippe.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: I want to see what he does. He brings a
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: lot to the table.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: I think people sleep on him a lot, man, to
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: be honest.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: I think Hunter Lippe, passing, running, he's a sleeper. So
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: watch out for him.
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: I was kind of shocked about Sam Williams. I'm not
• 49:05
  Speaker 11: mad at.
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: Him, just kind of shocked at him because, I mean,
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: what he did on special teams as well.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: So that's why I was just kind of like, Just
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  Speaker 6: kind of a question.
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  Speaker 18: I didn't know if maybe Von Miller kind of pushed him.
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  Speaker 4: Out, or I don't know what your take is on that.
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  Speaker 8: I just wanted to get your take.
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  Speaker 6: On that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, to me, when I look at it,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was surprised that a little bit with Sam.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: But I was surprised, and it was like one of
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: our last callers, about seeing him in the fourth quarter
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: of these two games, running down on kickoffs. I even
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: said that when he was drafted a few years ago,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: did he think in year five of his career he'd
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: be running down on kickoffs the final preseason game in
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter? But he's trying to make the team.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I thought with Houston and Tyrus Week, I mean, it's
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: a unique position because it's outside linebacker, edge rusher. I mean,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: on certain roles, like they play the same position, but
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: yet certain guys you're going to have in here and different,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like run running downs. And I think Tyrus
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Wheat's a guy that can kind of help you there.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: He can kind of slide more inside. And then you've
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: got some edge rushers that are, that's really what they're
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: going to be. So you have a good mixed bag of,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: of players like that. And Von Miller, you know, we
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: kind of know what he is and what, what he's
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: going to do and, um, in how it's all going
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: to kind of shake out. But I do think ultimately,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: and we asked this question when, when Von was, was
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: signed of who does he kind of push out here?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Does he push out James Houston? Does he push out
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Sam Williams? Um, And we'll see. And it's still to
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: be determined yet because we'll see how the roster kind
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: of shakes out. All right, last caller is going to
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: be Chris. He's in San Angelo. Chris, what's up, man?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Hey, Mr.
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: Nick.
• 50:59
  Speaker 14: How are you doing today, bud?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you?
• 51:01
  Speaker 14: I'm doing well, man. Hey, yeah, I was going to
• 51:04
  Speaker 14: start out. I was going to really get on Brian
• 51:08
  Speaker 14: a little bit and talk to him about going into
• 51:10
  Speaker 14: detail about the breakfast burritos that.
• 51:12
  Speaker 19: I made this morning.
• 51:13
  Speaker 14: But we don't have time, and that would be mean anyway.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: But anyway, no.
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: Going back to, you.
• 51:21
  Speaker 14: Talked about Camden Brown. He earned it. I'm really glad
• 51:26
  Speaker 14: he's on the team. What I was thinking is it
• 51:31
  Speaker 14: would probably take something catastrophic, a catastrophic situation for him
• 51:38
  Speaker 14: being a major contributor this year at the wide receiver position.
• 51:43
  Speaker 14: Do you think that anything went into that– decision with
• 51:49
  Speaker 14: the future, you know, wide receiver question with Pickens after
• 51:55
  Speaker 14: this year, you know, because he seems like he could
• 51:58
  Speaker 14: have easily been caught in a numbers game too with
• 52:02
  Speaker 14: them keeping six about being let go. I was going
• 52:06
  Speaker 14: to see if you thought that might play anything into
• 52:09
  Speaker 14: it with them keeping him.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. Um, I think down the line, yes, yes,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: it does. But I think it's, you're talking about like.
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: You know, E.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: F G H type scenarios when really you don't need
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: to even go further than a, B and C. And
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I say that because, you know, you keep Camden Brown
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: because you think he's a good football player and he's
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: earned it. And, Think about what he's going to do
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and what he's going to continue to develop, not only
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: as a football player, but also just his body and
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: just maturing there. I mean, for one year of the
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: weight room here, what does Camden Brown look like next
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: year when we see him at whatever it is, whether
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: it be the first OTA or whatever, you're going to
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, all right. It looks different. We've seen
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: it so many times, and I could see that happening
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: with him. And so you develop these guys and say,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: if this is the floor, I want to see him
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: develop and grow a little bit more. All that being said, yeah, okay,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: then what happens next year? Do you let Pickens walk or–
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: CD or if you, if you, if you, you don't
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: have to make a move there. I mean, who knows,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: who knows what, how this thing will develop, but it, it,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt you to keep good young football players,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: regardless of the position. Do you look at it down
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: the road and go, man, maybe, you know, you got Flannoy.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe he ends up being your wide receiver too. Maybe
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Camden Brown slides into your three or four role. Maybe,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: but right now it's just a good young football player
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that took advantage of every opportunity that, He shined on
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: the biggest stage in front of him, and he did
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: it consistently. He really had off days. He went back
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: to Oxnard and did well. He came back to the
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: star in the night practice and did well. He's pretty
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: much performed every single time you've given him a chance.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: So if you're cutting that guy, then I think the
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: priorities would be out of whack, and that would not
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: be the right culture that Shadi's trying to preach. All right, guys,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: it's been awesome. Appreciate all the calls. Good stuff getting
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: back in it. We're going to do this again on Wednesday,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: and then our next show after Wednesday will be Tuesday
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: following Labor Day, and then that's just four days for
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: the rest of the week, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: then we go to New York and beat the Giants
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: in week one. All right, that's how that's going to work.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: That's just kind of laying out the schedule for you
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: for the next two weeks. Good stuff, everyone. We'll see
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: you on Wednesday. For Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. See
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: you next time on Cowboy Storyline.
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