Latest / Random Heathen Ramblings / Random Heathen Ramblings: S2 EP36 - Meet My Tribe, Hlórriðifólk!!
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- 0:13Ellen. Welcome everyone.
- 0:17Welcome back to another random Heathen ramblings podcast.
- 0:22Get into it. We're listening to the newest
- 0:52track from Don. Heim called T VAR.
- 0:56It was released today November 26th Was actually released
- 1:03yesterday November 26th. It is November 27th at the time
- 1:07of this recording and it will be Thursday.
- 1:12The beginning of December. Whatever date, that is my
- 1:18calendar. I'm I'm off on my times, but
- 1:20anyway, Is what it is. An awesome track.
- 1:31I'm loving it. All right. so, Once again, hail
- 1:45and welcome back. As you notice was off for a
- 1:52couple of weeks. Visiting some friends and family
- 1:58in the wonderful state of North Carolina.
- 2:03But we are back. Now the 4th of December here, we
- 2:07are on the 4th of December first podcast of the month.
- 2:12And we are getting close to wrapping up season 2 of the
- 2:17random Heathen ramblings podcast.
- 2:20So to all of you who have been Faithfully listening watching,
- 2:25whatever, thank you so much. And if you are new to this
- 2:28podcast, my name is Jesse. This is a midgard music
- 2:32production. You may know me from my YouTube
- 2:34channel of the same name. Midgard musings.
- 2:40So this is just another Our means of talking about heathen
- 2:47re related stuff. Germanic paganism, you know,
- 2:51austere through is a term that gets used a lot to describe
- 2:55this, this Faith, this, this religious observance, and, So
- 3:05this is what my channel is about.
- 3:07And this is the, you know, the podcast is, is very much random
- 3:10in its nature. And we've got some really fun
- 3:12guests and brothers of mine. Actually, now you've if you,
- 3:16like I said, if you've been watching my podcast for any
- 3:21length of time, you should know that Dingo is my Govi.
- 3:31He's my Goethe and one of the founding members of our tribe
- 3:37here in Middle Tennessee, I've alluded to and spoken a bit
- 3:40about our tribe, but we're going to be talking with him.
- 3:45Today, we're going to have Patrick are lost, speaker him
- 3:49and Patrick have been friends for shoot 20, some odd years, I
- 3:53think. And we may also be getting a
- 3:57guest appearance from dingoes daughter Kaya.
- 4:01So, before we get into all that, I want you all to please, if you
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- 5:52in my Goethe Dingo and the law speaker are lost speaker.
- 5:57Another brother of mine Patrick and His is dingoes daughter Kaya
- 6:03for this episode of random even rambling.
- 6:06So let's welcome them all in now.
- 6:14All right, folks, welcome back. I've got some dear friends into
- 6:19your brothers joined with me tonight, as I mentioned earlier,
- 6:23in the intro, sort of an intro we didn't we didn't even hit our
- 6:27midgard, musings intro. But anyway.
- 6:30Welcome to the podcast. You guys know him.
- 6:32You guys love them. Then go is here and then we've
- 6:35also got for the first time ever and hopefully not the last time
- 6:40our lost speaker Patrick so dingo Patrick.
- 6:42Welcome to the show. Yeah, definitely.
- 6:46So you got dingo, you know, him he's the, he's the dark, the
- 6:50dark haired fella and then you got Patrick that's, you know,
- 6:54chilling in the beanie and in the the outdoors, the hood.
- 6:57Z hoodie, hoodie. That's not even a word.
- 7:00It's a dark and outdoorsy. Hoodie, look at our project,
- 7:05it's dark, right? Yep, that guy and that guy.
- 7:14So, before we get into Today's Show, Ladies and Gentlemen,
- 7:17let's kick off the midgard musings, theme song, music,
- 7:20whatever, and let's just get into it.
- 7:23Thirty. Oh yeah.
- 7:44All right gentlemen. So hold on a second.
- 7:48I want to do something. I guess that's the thing I'm
- 7:51going to do. Okay.
- 7:57So yeah guys, and gals out here in in the world dingo here, and
- 8:03Patrick are brothers of mine. And I've talked a bit about what
- 8:08that whole thing means in terms of familial titles.
- 8:13And these are two gentlemen who have earned that title.
- 8:17It's something that they are not blood kin to me, but they've
- 8:22shared in Article moments in my life.
- 8:25They've tied weird with me. They've been a part of ritual
- 8:28with me. We're going to talk a bit about
- 8:29today of a very, very profound ritual that we were all three of
- 8:34us apart of a few weeks ago. I've talked a bit about on this
- 8:38podcast about the spiritual journey, camping trip, you guys
- 8:44go back through the catalog and watch, and listen to whatever,
- 8:46you'll, you'll know that I've alluded to this whole thing
- 8:50being something that we had planned on for what was it shit
- 8:53now. Like September, I think was the
- 8:57first one. Yeah, yes, right, right.
- 9:01Yeah, the initial, the initial plan or the initial, you know,
- 9:07we planned on doing it in September and then that didn't
- 9:09work. And then we moved it ahead to
- 9:11October, and that didn't quite work, and then we finally did
- 9:16it. Two days, after my birthday and
- 9:20my yeah. So November 13th, we ventured
- 9:27off to camp on dingoes family lands.
- 9:31The familial, the old all lands where the tribes Vey sits, you
- 9:38know, it's on the the, the shelf or the bottom shelf of a
- 9:43Limestone Mountain face, I guess you could say.
- 9:47That's accurate. We're going to the theater.
- 9:49Yep. Now the Woodland just like a
- 9:51cathedral but it's Limestone. Yeah, so the Woodland Cathedral
- 9:56is what I became familiar with this area of the land when we
- 10:00first became real close and we were out there, that was the
- 10:04name that I knew it by and it's, you know, that's still a name
- 10:09for it. I think that's a, it's fine.
- 10:11It's like, we call it that, but we call it.
- 10:12Are they? It's the grits a Grove, it's of
- 10:16so many things. So where did the Woodland
- 10:18Cathedral name come from? You guys are friends forever.
- 10:21So I mean, is it something that we built that space and what
- 10:262009 it was around 2008 that it became officially consecrated as
- 10:36the? Yeah, it's the Mainstays.
- 10:39We had a space prior to that, that was at another residence
- 10:44but With events that transpired, it just didn't work out, right?
- 10:50So we had to kind of start a new and we kind of went from there
- 10:55in 2008 and then onward from that point.
- 11:00So it we call it the would like to feed related things because
- 11:03we that was when we were recording music out there.
- 11:08Yeah. And the way, that things bounced
- 11:10off of the Limestone behind us, it projected for And we had to
- 11:16like set the mics right in order to capture that sound because of
- 11:22the way that it was just all Ford.
- 11:25Yeah. The the it was almost like we
- 11:26had a shotgun mic without having a shotgun mic because it just
- 11:30got blasted for. Yeah.
- 11:32The natural Reverb of the estate was, you know, it was very
- 11:37unique. Yeah.
- 11:39You know it's can capture that digitally you only right to be
- 11:42unfair to order to experience, right?
- 11:45And if you can't capture it at all on any microphone but even
- 11:49still like we were doing a lot of ambient recordings and we did
- 11:54our like that prevents to get a facsimile.
- 11:57Yeah, experience something. It's still but that's how that
- 12:01name came about I think was that?
- 12:04It was very cathedral-like on that.
- 12:08The Acoustics of the area here. What we were?
- 12:11You could hear the music we were producing.
- 12:16Like, in the properties in front of the woods, not just the ones
- 12:21because it just got slammed so far forward by the sound because
- 12:26there's a limestone backdrop. I mean, we don't bit.
- 12:30Now, you guys Dingo and Patrick you guys have been friends now
- 12:34for a couple of decades, right? We have about 20 years.
- 12:39And, you know, I became friends with with you, then go through
- 12:45the music scene through abandoned, you were in, and I
- 12:48thank the friendship that I developed with Patrick kind of
- 12:52came along with our friendship. So you guys became my friends
- 12:55kind of around the same time as you know that was Battle path
- 13:00and years and years. Patrick like people would come
- 13:04up to Patrick and he's like you're that guy in Battle Pack,
- 13:06right? And he's like, no.
- 13:09I'm not that guy but I'm also that you are ambient project.
- 13:16That we've had going for many, many years that trust well.
- 13:20Now, I'll even name dropping, like break our code for the
- 13:25first time and oh, 10 years since we've done that project,
- 13:29that well, yeah, that's us and But though he was always
- 13:35mistaken for being a musician. It's one of those things where
- 13:40you a groupie if you if you if you get the dingo I just I guess
- 13:47I'm just part of the package, I don't know.
- 13:49I just see more. He was a musician, they just
- 13:52did. It was the wrong project.
- 13:54Thank you. You know, like it was something
- 13:59else to be able to see the the birth and evolution other
- 14:05project, you know, from inception until then, you know,
- 14:08and I was pretty much there for battle path and being able to
- 14:12witness the, the old Xperia you are, our viewer official
- 14:16photographer for years so wow. Isn't that what's the noise
- 14:21ambient stuff that we were doing on the side like that?
- 14:24Nobody ever really care about, you know, Like that, that became
- 14:28a whole other thing. And it was always a ritual
- 14:31experience. It wasn't about music.
- 14:33It was about but even the way we broke, even the way we mixed and
- 14:41arranged, what we wrote was ritual, It was bridge will list,
- 14:47stick and Matrix. Which is really phenomenal
- 14:51thinking like hearing you guys talk about it and knowing the
- 14:55friendship that way things started with battle path and how
- 15:00our friendship has grown because it didn't start with Heathen.
- 15:03Re it didn't start with anything like that, it started with music
- 15:06and it we established a friendship based on a mutual
- 15:09interest in this style of music in the scene and that sort of
- 15:13thing. And then we've maintained our
- 15:15friendship and we've grown into a Brotherhood and now a tribe
- 15:19and So, you know, you talked to earlier moments ago about, you
- 15:23know, kind of like dropping the announcement of deck trusts and
- 15:27this is us and we are it and it is us and all this kind of stuff
- 15:32for everyone that's watching right now in listening.
- 15:35You know, I've talked a bit and alluded to a tribe in Middle
- 15:40Tennessee, that I'm a part of and you are seeing firsthand.
- 15:45If you're watching this and listening, you're experiencing
- 15:48firsthand the members. Is the founding members of that
- 15:53tribe that I've alluded to and talked about in a number of my
- 15:56social media posts. And we are clear the folk and
- 16:00Hillary thee is a name for Thor and so we are Thor's people.
- 16:05We are literally folk the people of the Thunder of the people of
- 16:08the Thundering storm. And it's it's as my little girl
- 16:11would say, you know, hammered, cheers, Hammer, cheers, man.
- 16:15Matter of fact, since we're talking about try, before we get
- 16:18into the real meat and potatoes, Talking about try, go ahead and
- 16:22go ahead and welcome in her. Go ahead, go ahead and bring in
- 16:27a member of our, of our tribe. Because she is as much of a
- 16:32member of this tribe as we are. And she's been a part of ritual.
- 16:37She does. Her thing, she says her peace.
- 16:40She does it her way and she's, you know, just been a really
- 16:44wholesome addition almost a grounding kind of Presence.
- 16:50You know what I mean is as young as she is and stuff.
- 16:54She's she's so with it. Like, she's so connected to two
- 16:59things and we're going to work very far from the tree.
- 17:04Yeah, so she's going to come on here in just a second but you
- 17:12know, for really folk is the tribe that I've been talking
- 17:16about and alluded to overtime and and We are Forest people, we
- 17:21are people of the thunderer, we are the people of the Thundering
- 17:24storm. And so everybody, say hi, and
- 17:27welcome to Kaya. Hey Kaya, welcome to the show.
- 17:39You got your hammer on girl. Get going to do a hammer.
- 17:42Cheers with us? Yeah it is awesome.
- 17:50So how are you what are you been up to?
- 17:54I've been hanging around. I, been playing with my baby
- 18:04like I got for my sister's birthday and I've been having a
- 18:12really fun time. Awesome.
- 18:15I miss you. It's been a while since we've
- 18:17seen you or I've seen you. It's been a few weeks.
- 18:19So, you doing okay? The last we watch hook together,
- 18:22right? Yep.
- 18:25The last time. That we will talk together.
- 18:29You know, that was it ever Bangarang?
- 18:36Yeah, good stuff but we were just talking about you a little
- 18:39bit and saying, how much of a part of the tribe that you are,
- 18:45you know, and what that means is like, you know, family tribe, is
- 18:49family tribe has is what family means.
- 18:52And you remember, I don't know if you remember, but you know,
- 18:55how you've been out there in the woods and over here at my place
- 19:00when we've done, you know, little rituals and we had a fire
- 19:03and stuff and you've always been right there.
- 19:06Part of it, you know, you you do your thing with your wand and
- 19:10you you're a big part of this family.
- 19:14So I wanted to say thank you for being here tonight.
- 19:17And, you know, saying hi to everybody because we're talking
- 19:22about all kinds of cool stuff in your part of it.
- 19:24So it's good to see you. Thank you, Jesse.
- 19:29Same here. Yeah, let's see that one because
- 19:35we talked about that when we talked about putting that Way,
- 19:39the way Kaya does her. Her ritual, you know, when she's
- 19:44a part of it all and that that one that you made it.
- 19:48Right? I made that.
- 19:50Yeah, yeah. But she does have her own way
- 19:54even though we have our way, she has her own way, and I
- 19:57appreciate that. That's, that's good.
- 19:59That that makes me a proud dad as a magician and Goethe and dad
- 20:06as well. Yeah, he doesn T cars our own
- 20:09past, that's what it's all about.
- 20:12It is it's about feeling that that Life Energy around us.
- 20:15So here's Kaya's, she's going to show us her one now.
- 20:18Yeah, there you go. Wait, you've taken that camping
- 20:24with you. You've got breakfast with us.
- 20:29What's it made out of? And actually makes it hold it up
- 20:38again. What kind of wood do you
- 20:41remember? I can't do long time Juniper.
- 20:50You can hold it like this, very slow.
- 20:56The way you never lose it, right?
- 21:01That's important. You know the you know what you
- 21:05do, and the way you do it, it what it does kaya is it, it
- 21:10helps secure good things for the family and for the tribe, it's
- 21:17something that we call luck, you know, and the little things that
- 21:21you do and the way that you do it is it's like adding water to
- 21:28a pot and you're adding good water.
- 21:30To that pot and you're making the pot fill with, with, with
- 21:34good water. We talked a little bit about the
- 21:36well or a web and we talk about different things that are very
- 21:41common in the way we talk about them, but in great.
- 21:47Yeah, yeah. You know, so those little things
- 21:49that you do the way that you do them, it helps maintain and
- 21:55control luck and good things for, not just you, but for
- 21:59everyone around, And you and all of us include it.
- 22:03So it's very special and we're very fortunate to be a part of
- 22:06all that. I know.
- 22:12So throw them horns up. Yeah, give us a call.
- 22:23Yeah. You just went right on.
- 23:02If you're a little metal head, I was like this the whole time
- 23:08Brad last night for you today. What is what is?
- 23:13Punk, great. But the history of punk rock We
- 23:19got to learn about the mystics of Bad Brains and crass the book
- 23:28like let's go. All right, good stuff.
- 23:40Awesome. There's passion and all that
- 23:44there's feeling and all that. And people are saying things
- 23:46that from the heart, you know what I mean, they're they're
- 23:50speaking from a place of experience and there's they're
- 23:53talking about things that mean something to them, you know?
- 24:11Lies. No, nothing just right up.
- 24:19Well, it was really great to have you on here.
- 24:21Kaya, thank you so much for showing us your wand, and, and
- 24:25introducing yourself, but, yeah, everybody that's watching
- 24:28listening, you know, Kaya is as much of the tribe as much as
- 24:31part of the tribe as as me and as Patrick and his dingo here
- 24:36and, you know, yeah, the future you're looking at the future of
- 24:40search. Yeah, serious.
- 24:47You know, I tell you what, there's been plenty times when
- 24:49Kaya talks and I just shut up. Listen, because I'm like, what,
- 24:54what is she, what is she trying to say?
- 24:55And what can I, what can I learn from about this?
- 24:58You know what I mean? No lie.
- 25:00Like that's that's from the heart.
- 25:02That's, that's real talk. But yeah, the future of the
- 25:20tribe is with our children and that's, you know, something that
- 25:24as we get into this podcast and talk a bit more about, you know,
- 25:27the future of the tribe and some of the tribal experiences that
- 25:32we've had recently that didn't include Kaya, but included the
- 25:38founding members and the ritual aspects of things that kind of
- 25:42got us into this. Newly like a new refreshed frame
- 25:49of mind or new and refreshed perspective on, you know, the
- 25:54world around us. And a lot of that just has to do
- 25:57with, you know, preserving and maintaining and giving our
- 26:03children the future to experience, you know.
- 26:07It's it's That's got it lies on us now to kind of lay that that
- 26:16foundation and to do the work now so that there's something
- 26:20for them too. Experience later, you know, we
- 26:25got to be better for the future. It's required that we have a
- 26:32night of reflection in order to put things in perspective, you
- 26:37know. Yeah.
- 26:38What is important and what, you know, if we always get
- 26:43distracted by everyday things and Having the ability to set
- 26:51those aside and actually see the world for how it is and for what
- 26:56it is. It's not yes.
- 26:59Yeah, the world for how it is, you know, what the world is, it
- 27:03is lost in our frames of mind so often.
- 27:10And I did just want to, to share with everybody and let everybody
- 27:13know, right? So dingo, thank you Kya, go back
- 27:18end. All right kiyah.
- 27:19Yeah buddy. So, thank you for tuning in.
- 27:24Thank you for tuning in. All right, back inside.
- 27:29I'll be in there in just a minute, okay?
- 27:34Thank you precious. That's precious.
- 27:40But you know the roles of members of a tribe, you know and
- 27:46what we all do, you know? So we really focus is us and we
- 27:49are, we are Hillary the folk and I've Up the number of times
- 27:53about how, you know, Dango is my Goethe and in a lot of tribal
- 27:57structures, the go, the serves a multi-faceted purpose, you know,
- 28:04like they do a lot of different things and so in our tribe away,
- 28:12we've got it, set up right now. Is we have a go, the chieftain
- 28:14and a law speaker. And and I 100% agree because
- 28:20Goethe and achievement at the same time.
- 28:22That's too much shit man. But yeah, if you go to try to,
- 28:28you know the well well I think the do the role has a very
- 28:35specific approach that it's like the chieftain in the go they
- 28:38are. I think the reason why a lot of
- 28:40tribes and Compass achieved in /go, the roll and put it into
- 28:44one, is because Of maybe resources or lack thereof,
- 28:48right? Right.
- 28:50But there they are, they are the responsibilities.
- 28:54That was my point, you know? Yeah, well, because again,
- 28:58you're the Goethe is like, the spiritual leader as the
- 29:01chieftain kind of takes on more of the, the boots on the ground.
- 29:06The, the original leader. Yeah.
- 29:09Right. But so they are, they are they
- 29:12are similarly, in a way, they are peers, you know, they They
- 29:16are kind of like equals in a way, but just focused on
- 29:20different things and then, so, in our tribe, you know, then go
- 29:25serves as Goethe and I serve as Chieftain.
- 29:27And, and Patrick over here, serves as lost speaker, and the
- 29:33role of the law speaker. Which we haven't really talked
- 29:36about in great detail. Least not on this platform,
- 29:40carries a lot of weight and a lot of importance because we
- 29:43don't screw up. Yeah, because when law in thew,
- 29:49is established in law and customs and traditions and stuff
- 29:51for established it is. It is the job of the law speaker
- 29:54to enforce and make sure that those laws are not just being
- 29:58maintained and kept. But that once laws are broken,
- 30:04They are the mediator. They are they are the person
- 30:06that you know, is in a place of authority to discuss what now
- 30:11needs to be done to maintain the tribal frith and maintain the
- 30:15tribal order when when laws are broken or when things that
- 30:22nature. So they serve a very important
- 30:24role and with your guys's history, you know, in the music
- 30:29sector, before we established our tribe, you know, there was
- 30:33almost like that. Inherent nature of Patrick to
- 30:37serve in that capacity without it being called such a thing.
- 30:40You know, I feel and then so it fits him well to to be in our
- 30:46tribe as lost because we have yet to maintain or we have yet
- 30:49to lay down our Tribal Law, and the thews are being lived out in
- 30:55and are being kind of You know, established in real time can
- 31:01absolutely confirm. This man has kept me from going
- 31:04insane for the past 20 years. That's where, you know, much in
- 31:13the Limelight as of late. But it's where my role grows in
- 31:17importance as the tribe grows. But in light of the pandemic and
- 31:22of reasons, you know, this greasing climb it's hard for us
- 31:27to really Add members. So my role has been on a more
- 31:34subtle level where I have one foot in the physical and one
- 31:39foot in the spiritual. And I'm kind of the balance
- 31:42wheel. Yeah, the two of you you keep us
- 31:44from going insane. Yeah, we were acting as the pair
- 31:49of scales between two Scorpios, it's a great.
- 31:53Yeah. That's by the way, I'm a Scorpio
- 31:56dingoes a Scorpio. You case you hadn't noticed, I'm
- 32:00a double Scorpio and I have a Gemini and in between and so
- 32:03that's even more insane because I have two scorpions fighting
- 32:06each other at all times in my mind that that's just a weird
- 32:11psychology to deal with but unfortunately I'm a Taurus and
- 32:18handle a good deal of that bullheaded strength.
- 32:28A Leo Scorpio Flores. And the mood ascended at.
- 32:37So it's just like hard-headed, the whole hot tea and study
- 32:42Chasing the Sun and the Moon. The whole that whole dynamic
- 32:45thing trying to swallow each other because I said, you're
- 32:52okay with being a roaring lion. I've not of lion.
- 32:56Okay. Were you being an honoree
- 32:58scorpion? I am not a scorpion.
- 33:00Okay? Okay, fine, like the just
- 33:02nothing, you know. Whatever you just are.
- 33:08Yeah. And we just are, you know, and I
- 33:12want to go back to the whole ritual experience a few weeks
- 33:16ago that we came to find ourselves in.
- 33:20We just are and we are not what we think we are from.
- 33:27Most of the time perspectives. We are so much more than what we
- 33:30are. And we are not The things that
- 33:34we thought we are in that way. It's so I mean, I was a bit
- 33:41like, during that whole ritual experience I went into madness,
- 33:45you know, the law speaker, Patrick over here went into
- 33:49death or at least the throes of death and dingo was sort of
- 33:55holding the chains between the two of us and reeling Us in and
- 33:59keeping us. From going off off the deep end
- 34:02as it were, it was a, I took his parole for a minute.
- 34:09Yeah, while while I normally would be in between the two, I
- 34:13decided to take one for the team for the third.
- 34:16Right. Right.
- 34:17It's go into the depths of Hell good, you're over there.
- 34:21Like how do you do this all the time?
- 34:23But over there. Like how do you do this all the
- 34:25time? I was 10.
- 34:31Yeah, he'll fire but just tell you, How difficult it was to be
- 34:47each other. Yes experience prior yeah
- 34:53otherwise we would have definitely been a guy.
- 35:01This guy over here was just going to the complete Odin
- 35:04Madness. Oh yeah.
- 35:08Not apologetic. When I say most intense rituals
- 35:11of my 20-year magic experience. Glad we didn't have a room.
- 35:17There was no Roofing, laughs. Nope.
- 35:22And the really interesting thing was, I want to talk it because
- 35:25like I talked a lot about Bingo and, and how, you know, he's
- 35:28been on the podcast. He's been on the channel.
- 35:30We talked a lot and he's been a very important part of my life.
- 35:35Patrick, not so much, but that night.
- 35:38With him. And I connected in a way that at
- 35:42first seemed very, I don't want to say volatile, but it was
- 35:49like, I was called out. I was challenged, but in a good
- 35:52way, you know, because Patrick was over here looking at me and
- 35:56I'm in my state of my, you know, Madness or whatever, just being
- 35:59incoherent and so on so forth and Patricks over here, like
- 36:03your this Chieftain your this thing you're that you got all
- 36:06this social media role and why Can't you just get a coherent
- 36:09sentence out of here for fuck sake, you know?
- 36:12And it was like that, it was like, we kind of got real with
- 36:15each other him more than me. I was I was in a state where I
- 36:19was kind of like, Mmm, Mmm, Mmm, you know, like absorbing it
- 36:25without being able to really respond or react to it, but it's
- 36:29sunken. It was, it was definitely
- 36:30received and it definitely, you know, became a part of my psyche
- 36:37and I was able to retain Pain, the things that he said.
- 36:40And when I think about it, in terms of the whole tribal
- 36:43structure that we're building, and I, and I talked about this
- 36:47in another video. Recently building seems very
- 36:50manual and it seems very mechanical and it seems very
- 36:54likely have to do it at this certain period of time.
- 36:56I don't mean it like that. I mean, like just the way that
- 36:59things are growing organic yes, the way things are growing
- 37:04organically and naturally. Our, I need to connect more with
- 37:10with you Patrick. I need to be able to connect
- 37:12more with you as the law speaker because as soon as the tribe is
- 37:15established, as it is right now. But as we look to establish and
- 37:19grow like you're going to be right there with me and like
- 37:22you're going to be so much, a part of the law, part of it, the
- 37:26the rules of the game as it were, if people want to play
- 37:29with us, they got to abide by the rules and you're the
- 37:31referee, you know what I mean? And you A role there, a man.
- 37:37And so that night, really solidified, the importance of
- 37:44where we're going with this and it was a very interesting time
- 37:47because Saturday that Saturday night three weeks ago in the
- 37:51early Dawn the early morning hours when we were coming out of
- 37:55our tents and I was sitting around the fire.
- 37:56You were the first one to come out of your tent and sit around
- 38:00the fire with me and kind of greeked.
- 38:02The new day And I think that that's very significant was just
- 38:07getting to bed. I was just getting to sleep when
- 38:10that happened and that's kind of the weird thing is, it's like
- 38:12you guys went to bed and I turned it to Fire and as soon as
- 38:16I went to bed, you guys woke up, but there was that and cycle
- 38:22everything. And there, there was always
- 38:24tending to the fire, so to speak, you know?
- 38:28Yeah. And I do want to call attention
- 38:29to something that I remember you saying Dango.
- 38:33You know, before we went into this ritual, you Like titles
- 38:36mean nothing. I am not a go.
- 38:39The you are not a Chieftain. He's not a lost speaker.
- 38:42We are nothing titles. Mean nothing.
- 38:43We just are going to be ourselves and we are going to be
- 38:47us and things are going to happen that we can't necessarily
- 38:53control. And we did a room draw.
- 38:56We did a rune hole at the beginning of it.
- 38:59You know then go you draw so Alou.
- 39:03Yep. I drew a was and Patrick of all
- 39:08people, drew Hoggle has, but that's true.
- 39:11Never true, which is normally mine.
- 39:13It was. All right.
- 39:14Balcony for a year is going to be one of those nights.
- 39:25Scores. But the way and I was like, you
- 39:30know, guys were going to end. It was a very the whole ritual
- 39:33experience, we drew the rooms but not only did we draw the
- 39:35runes, we painted the runes on our, on our foreheads with oil
- 39:40that my wife had made. So she even though she wasn't
- 39:42physically there, an essence of her and a part of her was there
- 39:46as well, because she made this oil with, with, with a, with a
- 39:50bunch of different. Cleansing oils and we painted
- 39:55the runes on our foreheads. And I said, guys, we need to
- 39:57think about these rooms as we go into this ritual and we need to
- 40:01and it's like we didn't even have to think about it.
- 40:04They just were and they existed within each of us throughout
- 40:07that night and throughout that ritual experience, you know,
- 40:10dingo, you were kind of that Beacon of light.
- 40:13You were that, you know, if we got lost, we we knew where to
- 40:18go, and Patrick was, was, was facing a storm. and, and I was
- 40:25In my own way, in my own Madness know, kind of being this team
- 40:31player as it were between different parts of it all, you
- 40:34know, and it was very, I don't know, I was very holistic.
- 40:37It was very like, you couldn't have planned it to be anything
- 40:40different than what it was. It just it was so organic and it
- 40:43was so holistic, but on a nice necessary relief, Where I'm just
- 40:56like all right. Thanks.
- 40:58Well this quite absurd. It's the only way it's going to
- 41:01be okay, but I just run when I just run up there and I just go
- 41:04mesothelioma you know what is he doing that?
- 41:09You know, where did that even come up?
- 41:20Why did that even come up? You know I you know, no, it was,
- 41:26it was Just everything from the night, the day, leading into the
- 41:34night and then the night leading into the dawn, you know, the
- 41:38whole ride was such a important part of I think us as founding
- 41:46members of a tribe to to seek the future of the tribe.
- 41:50You know, we learned so much about ourselves and lost a bit
- 41:53of ourselves, not lost in a bad way, but like part of ourselves,
- 41:56literally died that night. I felt that IE go.
- 42:03Died. We need those anyway, stupid.
- 42:09Egos certain you know, certain attachments and thought loops
- 42:16and constructs that we felt claustrophobic around this kind
- 42:24of dissolved, you know, and that, that ability to be able to
- 42:27just kind of have, you know, a base one, you know, a reset or,
- 42:35you know, something that I said in the project A couple days
- 42:42afterward that something that Patrick and I are very very
- 42:45experienced with and our magical Endeavors and vocation invoking,
- 42:53the gods becoming yeah. May God or an aspect of a god,
- 43:01depending on which God it is, because it gets weird, but we
- 43:07invoke each other. Rather than iPod, the way it in.
- 43:13And so we became one entity with a pebble crossed with three
- 43:21heads. Yeah.
- 43:23And it was It took a bit to kind of lose strange.
- 43:30Yeah, that's it. Oh, yeah, it was very strange
- 43:33because I remember, I remember parts of that night that the
- 43:38gods didn't even mean anything to me, right?
- 43:42They were there, when I was, I was connected to something
- 43:45deeper than even the gods, it was like a primordial connection
- 43:50to the existence of the world around me.
- 43:55And I did, yes. From The Roots all the way up to
- 43:59the Stars. Oh yeah.
- 44:01Yeah. From the Earth to the sky, from
- 44:03the sky, to the Earth and then just everything around.
- 44:05Me was so much more Illuminating and it was so much more.
- 44:10Living than I had ever perceived it to be, you know, because look
- 44:15like, yo, the trees are alive, the water that this like, you
- 44:18hear all this hippy-dippy stuff throughout your life and you're
- 44:21like, yeah, that's cool. That's that's, that's nice,
- 44:23that's pleasant. But, man, when you're in it and
- 44:25when you're feeling it, and when you're actually a part of it,
- 44:27when the breadth of the earth is one with you and you are one
- 44:31with her, that's like the gods. What?
- 44:36What gods like, right? I don't know, it was, it was so
- 44:40much more Or Primal of a feeling.
- 44:45And I felt that between you guys you know what I mean.
- 44:48It was almost like there for a moment, we weren't even
- 44:51ourselves. It was the the pronouns and
- 44:55stuff that were used to communicate between us.
- 44:57In the sense of connection between each other was beyond
- 45:02just listening talking. And why are you flat Suleiman
- 45:05suit? Yeah, but you don't have to do
- 45:09this breathing this whole breathe.
- 45:10Anything it's stupid, I hate it. You know like stuff like that.
- 45:13You know this is not. So cumbersome is, it's so
- 45:19awkward but life is being and you know like it's always been
- 45:29interesting to me as a practitioner of magic over the
- 45:32past 20 years. You know, like what's the key to
- 45:36life, you know, like where you you spent so much time, focusing
- 45:41on this, what's the key to life live?
- 45:46It just is that it just lives if that's the key to life is to
- 45:50live that that's that's the purpose.
- 45:53You live until you can't. And when you can't, then you're
- 45:58gone and who cares. But until then live, we move on
- 46:03to the next stage of life. And and another thing to man was
- 46:07like the whole perception of and this is going to get into some
- 46:11other weird stuff that we probably don't have time for on
- 46:13this podcast, but time the perception of time.
- 46:18And, you know, because what we hear about time is a construct
- 46:23time is an illusion. Time, is at this and that, but
- 46:26I'm telling you Right now, folks time don't mean shit, time is
- 46:31nothing because the perception of time was lost during our
- 46:35ritual. I'm talking about the fact that
- 46:37minutes seem like hours and hours seemed like seconds and a
- 46:42day could have been a minute in our, in my Ellie's in my
- 46:46perception. I'll speak on my own behalf.
- 46:48I don't want to speak on either one of your behalf, but I was
- 46:51like, this whole time thing. What time is it?
- 46:55What time of day? What time?
- 46:56And night, it was like, oh it's a it's a it's a mile marker
- 46:59along the road has left World words tastes like purple.
- 47:04Yeah. No.
- 47:05Literally like South was North East was up down was green and
- 47:12it's right. Like what?
- 47:13I mean, everything just kind of was in this chaotic big sense of
- 47:18being when you're in the midst of a storm.
- 47:22You know, you you have to just go with the storm and just know
- 47:29that it will end or move on and some way or form.
- 47:35A lot of veterans who are in the midst of combat have very much a
- 47:41similar experience where their whole sense of time, you know
- 47:45certain engagements might feel like ours even though it was
- 47:48minutes but it's just because they're so caught up in the
- 47:52mouth. Drop, you know that they just
- 47:59let's talk about. Let's talk about a storm for a
- 48:01second. I just want to answer, want to
- 48:02put this. Is that where you're going?
- 48:07Yep. So I'm showing you guys, the
- 48:09Hoggle has Rune and this is and this is an elk bone Rune made by
- 48:13our good friend jmo. Listen, if y'all would tear
- 48:16Workshop, I've talked enough about him.
- 48:18You guys don't know just check some of my past videos and
- 48:22stuff. Tough.
- 48:22But Hoggle has he asked, you know, do you guys want the you
- 48:25know, do you want one bar between the two stabs or you
- 48:29want to? And I was like let's go with two
- 48:31and this this second bar you know what I'm saying?
- 48:34Like that that space between that blank space.
- 48:37Between what do we talked about that being?
- 48:42It was like the eye of the storm.
- 48:46There's all this crap going on around that.
- 48:49It's complete Madness around that but That space is that
- 48:55there's a it's like the pit stop or the that night like if they'd
- 49:01like it's a calm but not really well he wasn't, it's not so much
- 49:06calm more as a place of reference, it was the only place
- 49:12of reference I have in midst of all of the chaos.
- 49:16I would always feel myself drawn back to the eye, you know, like
- 49:21exactly. No, not exactly.
- 49:23Comorbid anxiety, I call Rapid. Like, it was like, well, it was
- 49:28a nice nauseating. Not at all.
- 49:53Yeah, because if you stay put, you're gonna you're gonna fall
- 49:56outside of the eye. You're going to get See and
- 49:59that's where the two bars of the hog lies.
- 50:02You know when you're dealing with frequencies like in
- 50:04transmission on cables and wires, it's never going to be
- 50:08dead center and they hope that it's not going to be too tall or
- 50:12too too low. They always try to hold for the
- 50:15center but is there is the fluctuation in frequency of it
- 50:19all and we can just hope that there won't be as much noise.
- 50:23There won't be as much static and that we can get a clear you
- 50:27know, a clear signal. Straight path, you know, it's
- 50:31great pass through it, but it's just, who is it?
- 50:35Your deductible is left. Yeah, I'll tell you what, man,
- 50:45I'm glad that hog laws was pulled in a way because the
- 50:49feeling within our VA that night was very turn mulch tumultuous,
- 50:56if that's the right word because I would go from point.
- 50:59Point North to South and all of a sudden like I'm in the west
- 51:03and it was, it was like a friggin death grip song.
- 51:07Yeah, I'm saying I'm like just all over the place because
- 51:13nothing seemed the perception. And then the next day I'm like
- 51:17this is it like this area that I'm seeing right now like I was
- 51:19here but it felt so much more. There was so much more going on
- 51:23in the space, the night before, then what it was the next day.
- 51:27But I perceive I Captured a perception of that space,
- 51:31totally different. And it's going to be totally
- 51:33different going forward for me. Whenever I return there.
- 51:36I'm like it's home in a way, like, it's so much.
- 51:42It's so it's so much of a home to me there, but I, it's like a
- 51:46renovated home in a way. You know what I'm saying?
- 51:48Like, there's new painting on the wall.
- 51:50There's new floors, there's the furniture has been moved around
- 51:54a little bit. I recognize this place, but it's
- 51:56totally different than The last time I was here, but that stand
- 52:02and don't piss off the Moon. But you know, that that's a big
- 52:17part of the ritual experience, it is the growth involved, you
- 52:20know, that you look back 10 years ago and you almost
- 52:25couldn't fathom, you can't, you can't even passively take years
- 52:29ago, you can't fathom where it is now.
- 52:32But it is. Well, is that space?
- 52:35I mean, is the Woodland Cathedral the same place now as
- 52:38it was in 2008? No.
- 52:40No. Not by any.
- 52:42Exactly. Exactly.
- 52:43You know, and it has been, you know, it's like a, it's been
- 52:49renovated multiple times. We've had inspire.
- 53:02You had a pet for a while. Yeah, that there was a basically
- 53:05like a recycling facility dumpster so to speak where you
- 53:13it was off from the henge space because it is a hand model
- 53:20button. Yeah, it was where you went and
- 53:24put things that you didn't want involved with the group.
- 53:28Right? And it in the north.
- 53:32No. Is it was a Southwest
- 53:34south-southwest. Oh wow.
- 53:38I had a hell of a time trying to get to North.
- 53:40If you remember this anymore because it we there was no
- 53:44function for it and so we destroyed.
- 53:47So no perks actively destroyed but that's the one change I can
- 53:50think of very specific. Overtly from 2008.
- 53:54The is not there anymore because we don't have the need for it.
- 54:01And we'll look at look at how good Patrick I was going to say
- 54:04and that's where you know from 2008 to 2010 to 2012.
- 54:08You know I've also added necessary layers to the space as
- 54:14well. Woman, Daniel has as well.
- 54:18And you know that's that's somebody that has never been
- 54:22brought up in a public aspect but Daniel has worm out good or
- 54:28mahi's He's put up barriers, like, man out there really, and
- 54:35you can, you can't get through, unless, you know, how to, I
- 54:41mean, I need to get my finding a ritualistic experiences that guy
- 54:45has like, put up some insane barriers, but it was only
- 54:50because he was looking out for the overall welfare of the tribe
- 54:54that time at that time. Yeah.
- 54:55You know it was he was kind of our loss speaker.
- 54:58Yeah. And that group.
- 55:00You know, he kept the peace, he tried his best to take notes.
- 55:06Well, I mean, outside factors made that even weirder, but he
- 55:09did, he kept the peace in that old group of like keeping things
- 55:14intact and working. It's instantly and functionally
- 55:20period. Was it was, I was going to say I
- 55:24speak of the old group. There was a third member before
- 55:28you Jesse as the chieftain. And that third member we thought
- 55:34was going to be with us and not Drift, But he has drifted and,
- 55:43you know, I'm not. I'm I'm just glad that we've had
- 55:49someone too. Come in and step in but not like
- 55:54replace him. Not be him, but just be, what's
- 55:59the word I'm looking for, you know?
- 56:03There's a lot of way, I mean. He was he was kind of the teeth
- 56:10and we're not naming names are intentionally.
- 56:13Of course, he was the chief that unofficially, but he never
- 56:18really. Upheld that title properly.
- 56:26No. Yeah.
- 56:27And that's and that's where, you know, when you when you came
- 56:30into the picture. There was, you know, there was
- 56:35hope that if he drifts too far, you know, we can, we can
- 56:42continue, you know, we don't we don't have to say that this is
- 56:47Nolan void because one person walks out but it's nice to know
- 56:51that someone can walk in. With fresh energy and be like,
- 56:55hey, let's do this. So and you know, in retrospect,
- 57:00if you bring it up in that those terms like he never was he like
- 57:06you and I were more of a cheap than splitting that role.
- 57:11Well, I guess where my thoughts have been going with that.
- 57:14Is that When in the old group, I was always in the South and he
- 57:20was always in the morning and then all of a sudden, you know,
- 57:25we come, you know, face-to-face on that Saturday but the roles
- 57:31are in that way. Reverse where I'm in the north
- 57:33and you're in the South. So I stayed a lot in the South.
- 57:38Yeah, it sounds spoke to me. Sweet.
- 57:40You that I went from the East to the West.
- 57:42Yeah, that was weird. So you know, it it felt right in
- 57:52the old group that that's where I needed to be.
- 57:55But now I kind of feel like with this new group, this new tribe,
- 58:00you know, goal in the old group you were you were outside of the
- 58:05circle. Well, I was still, you weren't
- 58:08you weren't in the para part of it.
- 58:12You were doing your own thing. Well, I'm always been an
- 58:15observer. And you know, I always like to
- 58:18keep a certain distance in order to kind of get an overall
- 58:22assessment. Right, so I can end all over
- 58:28there. But that's that's my role.
- 58:33Yeah and that's the thing was when it comes down to roles and
- 58:35how they change and how they ship, it was just an observation
- 58:39that I mentioned that, you know, I kind of came to the conclusion
- 58:45of the loss of that member of that old group like he's no
- 58:48longer going to be with us. It's pretty much done, but it
- 58:52doesn't matter because we have someone That is better suited
- 58:58for several. He said the work, I did not,
- 59:03that's a judgment call and I'll make it so kudos Yeah, so like
- 59:12the and that's the interesting thing is because the the keep
- 59:16talking about like you know the old group and the roles and
- 59:19stuff that was not worthy, folk know.
- 59:23And when we collectively decided to kind of name, well it wasn't
- 59:31even a decision because again it sounds so mechanical when you
- 59:35say children, like that's what it was.
- 59:39But And I know that it was like a group effort and I know that
- 59:44it was like a group voting sort of thing, but like there was no
- 59:48like I didn't just come in here and say, hey guys, I'm the chief
- 59:51and you told me that and we gave dingo the pretty ones that said,
- 59:58you should be keeping it. There was a vote.
- 1:00:01You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly, exactly wasn't
- 1:00:04pretty sure. And you know with with the way
- 1:00:16the group is now and are on our tribe is now it and we're we're
- 1:00:22growing and what we want to you know, build our tribe to be.
- 1:00:28This is us guys, this is this is what you see, is what you've got
- 1:00:32and the more that The tribe grows, which lies heavily on
- 1:00:39someone like me and, you know, collectively as a try.
- 1:00:42But it's like that that that the horse-drawn carriage needs to be
- 1:00:52led by somebody, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:00:54And as we look to build and I keep using that word and I hate
- 1:00:59it but as we as we look to grow organically, it's like someone
- 1:01:03has to drive the cart. Someone has to kind of be the,
- 1:01:06the You know, the captain behind the seat and the captain needs
- 1:01:12his Navigator and everybody in a ship has a role with all these
- 1:01:18things drive. You know, it's almost like you
- 1:01:24have the reins I'm telling you, where to go and this guy's the
- 1:01:27horses. Yeah, you know, like if there's
- 1:01:31order, there's construction, you can't have you can't function
- 1:01:36without any of those pieces, right?
- 1:01:41Yeah. There has to be order.
- 1:01:42There has to be construct, and that's where I think the whole
- 1:01:46tribal structure of things within Heathen re really shines
- 1:01:51is and what a lot of people look for.
- 1:01:53Yeah, they look for an established structure of things.
- 1:01:57Like, I want to be a Something. But I don't want to be a part of
- 1:02:00something that is just shooting from the hip.
- 1:02:03That's all stupid willy-nilly that has no sense of up down
- 1:02:07left, right? They don't get anything like I
- 1:02:09want to be a part of something but I want to be part of
- 1:02:11something that is solid, you know and over the years, over
- 1:02:16the time that clearly Focus, you know, from its Inception
- 1:02:20conception To its existence. Now we are it.
- 1:02:25We are at so far and now we want to look to grow and build.
- 1:02:30What a tribe is not just three members of Brothers, who have a
- 1:02:36similar interest and have a common interest in a common
- 1:02:38goal, but who else can we, you know, welcome in, to this
- 1:02:45extension of our respective families, you know.
- 1:02:49And that's a lot of work. That's a lot of Worthing time.
- 1:02:54And we, you know, I've talked a bit about this on other podcast
- 1:02:58before about the whole Worthing process.
- 1:02:59It's like, you don't just get to be a part of a tribe.
- 1:03:02You don't just get to be a part of a group, or Kindred or
- 1:03:05anything without proving yourself.
- 1:03:09And that's where the whole like law thing comes in.
- 1:03:14You know, we're almost why. I suggested I think I might have
- 1:03:19been the one suggesting the ritual that we had on that
- 1:03:22Saturday in the very early frauds of the something.
- 1:03:25You know, you're not really throws it back in the summer.
- 1:03:27You were because it was one where I was like, hey, I wonder
- 1:03:32if we can create a Proving Ground here and see where we all
- 1:03:35stand and I feel like we We all got to hang from the tree.
- 1:03:42We all we all did. Alright.
- 1:03:43I think we're on the other side, the antenna.
- 1:03:47Yeah. But then we're on a sunscreen we
- 1:03:50can have count and I we're good. It's just unfortunate that the
- 1:03:56you know, the Inception of our tribe also fell in blue of the
- 1:04:01pandemic. You know, it's just like so many
- 1:04:05great projects were all starting around the world and 2019 and
- 1:04:102020 hits and it's like well so now we have to almost work twice
- 1:04:15as hard if not three times harder to even get the momentum
- 1:04:21that we had back in 2019. So but the good thing is that
- 1:04:26there's there's a convener spoken of the calls were
- 1:04:29stoking, the fucking calls and the old train, man.
- 1:04:36Yeah, we're in there and we're fire has never died.
- 1:04:39Out and and the Embers I never said the fire died out the same.
- 1:04:43It's going to be that you were shoveling it sucks but we're so
- 1:04:50good. Hey you know just it seems like
- 1:04:55last year the basic trust we had a good human beings as like
- 1:05:01eroded to a point where like we don't like wanting you know we
- 1:05:05don't even want to get beer other people now.
- 1:05:09This. Yeah, and and we have to have if
- 1:05:12you're bringing that up, you know, like yeah like We have to
- 1:05:17have it, I have to have that you guys and Kaia sometimes, you
- 1:05:22know, like that's all I've got and that sucks.
- 1:05:25But yeah, but that's where you know this best for last year.
- 1:05:29In this year is a global Proving Ground.
- 1:05:32It's all there to be where our worth is as a whole as a
- 1:05:36species. You know are wondering, you
- 1:05:40know, are we even fit to be on this planet?
- 1:05:43But well, that remains that That's a very good question that
- 1:05:47that remains to be seen. I just I just am the way I am
- 1:05:51and doing the best that I can, the way I can.
- 1:05:53But like one of the things that, you know, I wanted to bring up
- 1:05:56was like, with this whole like tribe thing with people and you
- 1:06:01know interacting with people and the pandemic challenges and
- 1:06:06whatnot. You know, we're here now.
- 1:06:07Those fires never died. We've stoke the fires and we've
- 1:06:11kicked the tires and we've kept things at least alive to the
- 1:06:14point where we're still here. We're still doing our thing with
- 1:06:17the three of us and we're still maintaining the Integrity of her
- 1:06:21really folk and now becomes the time to introduce and bring in
- 1:06:30more people that are a better interested to maintain and do
- 1:06:34that sort of thing. And, you know, dingo you and I
- 1:06:37have had a lot of interactions with people specifically who are
- 1:06:43not necessarily Heathen, but Are no less members of our tribe and
- 1:06:48that are no less kin and kith to us.
- 1:06:51Now I'm talking about Richard, talk about Jane talking about
- 1:06:54sounds my brother bitch. Yep.
- 1:06:56You know like Batman Batman and literally man like can we just
- 1:07:01like talk about that for a quick second even like just like yeah
- 1:07:05hell yeah man. He's a yes I will bitch.
- 1:07:07I love that guy. Yeah.
- 1:07:09Like this man, literally faced death, you know, and and walk.
- 1:07:15Through the fires of hell as it were and, and is he out of the
- 1:07:20woods? No, but he's also walked through
- 1:07:23those fires and he's also walked through those woods.
- 1:07:25And the challenges that lay ahead of him are the challenges
- 1:07:29that we can. Suffer with him together because
- 1:07:33that's what tribes about. It's not about just being all
- 1:07:37buddy-buddy and and love and light and all this other kind of
- 1:07:40shit. But it's literally about
- 1:07:44Experiencing the darkness and the, the hurt and the pain and
- 1:07:48being there for each other. When you need each other, the
- 1:07:51most, you know, Jean was another one.
- 1:07:54Because who were the ones that were there for him at his
- 1:07:58father's funeral? You know what I'm saying, like,
- 1:08:01stuff like that. Like, even though it may seem
- 1:08:03very superficial or Surface level type of acknowledgements,
- 1:08:06it's like, hey man, we were there and and we love our
- 1:08:11brothers and we love those people who have Taking the time
- 1:08:14out of their lives to tie those threads with us and never forget
- 1:08:20that hug. You know, that kind of thing,
- 1:08:24right? But that's the essence of the
- 1:08:27theme of these past two years right there, you know, if
- 1:08:31anything, it doesn't weaken us. It doesn't cause us to distance
- 1:08:37ourselves, if anything, it gives us a stronger energy to come
- 1:08:41back together. So, that's what I'm hoping.
- 1:08:44Is that resurgence? Well we'll build you know and I
- 1:08:51think I think that I think that everything that you're saying
- 1:08:55Patrick is true and our ritual a few weeks ago really helped
- 1:08:59reset us together the three of us in our own individual ways
- 1:09:05but it also helped reset us collectively.
- 1:09:09We were all there. You know what I mean?
- 1:09:12It was we we we all felt our thing.
- 1:09:16Individually, but it was Collective if he's gone off
- 1:09:21somewhere. I'm going off with him.
- 1:09:23Maybe not in person, but in spirit, like, I'm with you in
- 1:09:27that struggle, I'm there with you in that feeling and you're
- 1:09:31here with me and my madness. And I'm there with you when
- 1:09:34you're dying. And and we're all here together,
- 1:09:36where it's like this under, it's like a Subterranean root system
- 1:09:42between the three of us that I felt that night.
- 1:09:44It was there was no need Need for names.
- 1:09:47There was no need for talking. It was like feeling the in the
- 1:09:50most intense way that I can possibly describe it was that
- 1:09:55feelings of existing were shared In the most purest of Senses
- 1:10:04between the three of us and it helped shape us into the
- 1:10:07individuals that we are now. And it also helped shape us into
- 1:10:12the tribe that we are now, because it's really, really
- 1:10:15focused not the same as it was three weeks ago, you know?
- 1:10:21I'm so I feel absolutely. We have definitely got the
- 1:10:27perspective, I feel we need You know, we were all kind of hoping
- 1:10:32that we would get all on the same page and I think we, we
- 1:10:36were successful sure. Because it midst of all the
- 1:10:39chaos on that, on that night, there was no sense of danger.
- 1:10:43You know, there was no sense of caution that we should, you
- 1:10:48know, go outside of ourselves. You know, we we were okay with
- 1:10:54what we had and that's, you know, so that we could we There
- 1:10:59for each other. And that's where we can.
- 1:11:04Hopefully extend that out you know, to others who eat that.
- 1:11:08You know, that is a solid foundation to build on.
- 1:11:11We were each other. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:11:15Yeah. We were there for each other.
- 1:11:17We were each other and that's a whole other.
- 1:11:21That is absolutely accurate. Yeah.
- 1:11:26We were each other, you know? But uh, I don't know.
- 1:11:31I think that that's a great spot to kind of wrap the podcast up
- 1:11:38at least, you know, because there's there's there's there's
- 1:11:42there's, there's this so much that even talk about further,
- 1:11:46but you guys go on for hours. But yeah, yeah, we could.
- 1:11:51But it was, it was, it was, it was a tremendous opportunity
- 1:11:54that we With each other. We were each other.
- 1:11:56We became each other. We are here, still now to talk
- 1:12:01about it and we've got a good strong Foundation to build on I
- 1:12:05feel and so for everybody, you know, listening watching
- 1:12:09whatever like thoroughly folk, Middle Tennessee.
- 1:12:14We don't have like an online presence per se, but more to
- 1:12:19come more to come with that because we absolutely, you know,
- 1:12:29we live in the digital age, man. We live in the information age
- 1:12:33and so a lot of the way people connect and a lot of weight that
- 1:12:37people learn about things is through Platforms.
- 1:12:41Social media, etc, etc. But it's the real deal.
- 1:12:46It's the living with each other. It's the existing with each
- 1:12:49other. It's the sharing of moments with
- 1:12:54each other that make up. Tribe, real tribe.
- 1:13:02So I want to say thank you, Patrick and dingo.
- 1:13:05If you guys want to hang out a little bit before we end this
- 1:13:09call, but for all the podcasts and YouTube and everybody,
- 1:13:13listening watching and stuff, this is us.
- 1:13:16And this is I think as much of an organic experience of us that
- 1:13:23you'll get in this way without experiencing us.
- 1:13:27Real time because there's not a whole lot of difference between
- 1:13:31made and all. Yep, this is usually my
- 1:13:34background for podcasts and it Skies brainbow wall.
- 1:13:38And I want to give a quick shout-out to that that, you
- 1:13:43know, it's like he did this. He spent time on this, he made
- 1:13:46this. Yeah.
- 1:13:49All of the life, all the living, all of us, all the colors, all
- 1:13:54the colors, That's a family joke.
- 1:14:00Not that any, my family's going to watch this, but all the
- 1:14:03colors, all the colors. But we do, we're gonna, we're
- 1:14:07definitely the tribe to, to accept and welcome in everybody
- 1:14:12and anybody. And, and as much of this tribe
- 1:14:16that everybody that's listening. Watching wants to experience or
- 1:14:20see in the Middle, Tennessee area.
- 1:14:22Specifically more to come more too.
- 1:14:26More to definitely come. You know, there's been a lot of
- 1:14:30good that's happened over the last month or so I feel between
- 1:14:34us collectively and US individually.
- 1:14:37So there's definitely more to come with that.
- 1:14:39But yeah, I want to thank you guys for coming on here.
- 1:14:43And you know talking a bit about this.
- 1:14:45This is this is going to be a lot of fun.
- 1:14:48So for everybody that's listening watching, you know, as
- 1:14:52I mentioned earlier, all the ways that you can support the
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- 1:15:11the whole social media bit but until next time and until we all
- 1:15:16talk again, hail to you all stay safe out.
- 1:15:20There may your Hearth fires. Always continue to burn bright
- 1:15:25and we'll see. You in the next episode.
- 1:15:28So have a great night everybody. Love it all.