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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, Auguste. This is Jack's Happy Hour and
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  Speaker 1: now a guy we affectionately referred to as Chris Conny's kryptonite,
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  Speaker 1: Jan Peace shad Rick, Oh, and welcome in. Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, presented by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans, j P Shadrick and the triumphant return of
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco and Tony BASSELLI, gentlemen, great to be back
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  Speaker 1: with you. Pete, what's going on? I'm back ready for
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  Speaker 1: another season as weird as it's been. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: my god, I can't even go to training camp. And
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  Speaker 1: are you ready for another beat down? As you get
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  Speaker 1: as it was like last season on Every Monday Night
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  Speaker 1: where I dominated you and all takes. Talking to people
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  Speaker 1: before this show came out, and they were talking about
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  Speaker 1: how I use you and they feel sorry for you.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes they wonder how a little guy can beat up
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  Speaker 1: on such a big man. Well, this is how we
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  Speaker 1: know you're lying. No one ever looked at you and
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  Speaker 1: said little big head, big big body, big belly down wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Your height is your height, the nerve. Look at this,
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  Speaker 1: look at my face. It's all drawn. Everything that's just
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  Speaker 1: because you have a tan right now. You have the
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  Speaker 1: South Florida Tan, the beaches right around the corner. All
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  Speaker 1: the people here, though JP looks like he's tan. Well.
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  Speaker 1: I have been out in the sun. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: have been to practice unlike you too, the last few days.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, it's nice to be outside, get
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  Speaker 1: some sun. I ain't some sun, you know, the outside period.
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  Speaker 1: Since we were imprisoned for like four months. Good point,
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  Speaker 1: excellent point, we've been opened a little longer around here.
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  Speaker 1: I think down than Ben down in South Is that right? Absolutely? Um?
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, the beach is great and it's open.
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  Speaker 1: It's all you need. And here's what we're getting to
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  Speaker 1: tonight on the program. Of course, the triumphant return of
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  Speaker 1: Pete and Tony throughout the evening. I'm sure they'll bash
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  Speaker 1: on each other as they always do. First day in
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  Speaker 1: full pads today, defensive line has a revolving door they've
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  Speaker 1: installed at t I A bank Field for that meeting
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  Speaker 1: room the last couple of weeks. We'll get into all
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  Speaker 1: the changes there and what it means moving ahead. How
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  Speaker 1: to establish an offensive identity with no preseason games, only
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  Speaker 1: fourteen padded practices thirteen after today, we'll get to some
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  Speaker 1: social media questions will go around the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: as well. Let's start with the strangest of training camps
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  Speaker 1: and preseason. Of course, since we have spoken last time,
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  Speaker 1: the league has canceled all preseason games. There are only
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  Speaker 1: fourteen padded practices. If you ask Doug Moron, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: really eleven full padded practices. There's a ramp up period.
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  Speaker 1: Even with the pads on only ninety minutes today, they'll
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  Speaker 1: expand a little bit tomorrow in the next couple of days,
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  Speaker 1: so time is limited, and it's it's got to be
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  Speaker 1: difficult Tony to to evaluate talent in eleven padded practice. Well,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, it makes no sense to me. You
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  Speaker 1: have basically, what is it, four weeks before opening day,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have eleven practices over four weeks with
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  Speaker 1: no preseason games. It doesn't seem like enough number. Like listen,
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  Speaker 1: if I was there, I and other guys that are
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  Speaker 1: veterans in this NFL, like you're fine, Like, give me
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  Speaker 1: like the ten eleven practices. I'm ready to go, um
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  Speaker 1: and I can go play. But this is a young
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  Speaker 1: football team and young guys need reps, and especially you
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  Speaker 1: had no offseason, no t a s. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think this is really a recipe for really sloppy football
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  Speaker 1: and a real disadvantage for the young teams in this
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  Speaker 1: league because eleven practices is not enough. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: sorry for anyone who's down the roster right now that's
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  Speaker 1: trying to make the last five spots on the team,
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  Speaker 1: because how do you prove yourself and eleven padded practices,
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  Speaker 1: no preseason games, no chance to evaluate um guys going
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  Speaker 1: against opponents in game situations full speed. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a very tough task. I think that the default position
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  Speaker 1: it will be for gms and head coaches to go
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  Speaker 1: with with guys that were on the team last year
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  Speaker 1: and they're comfortable with. I think it's you're not You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna see less um unrestricted free agents. I think you
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  Speaker 1: can see some guys that are late round draft picks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, having a harder time to make the team. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, maybe they end up on practice squad, But
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea why they landed on eleven real
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  Speaker 1: padded practices when you have this much time before the
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  Speaker 1: first game. Yeah, A couple of things I talked to
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  Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's from the Saints today said it was great
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  Speaker 1: to get out there and hit people and stuff. He goes,
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  Speaker 1: talk to me in about five more days, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: be glad that we only have a few of them. Right,
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  Speaker 1: that's the way it is. But here's the other thing, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: and tell me if you agree with this. Nobody or
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  Speaker 1: teams are gonna tackle. But a few teams tackle, right,
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  Speaker 1: and keep practice you almost have to tackle a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I think early in the season there's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of big plays and broken place because nobody's tackling
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  Speaker 1: and you have so much limited time to prepare for
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  Speaker 1: the angles speed of the game tackling. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of big plays early in the season.
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  Speaker 1: I get to be sloppy, and I actually worry about injuries.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think one thing that is discounted, and
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  Speaker 1: I have no science or proof to like back up
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  Speaker 1: this claim, but I think I think training camp hardens
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  Speaker 1: the body. I think there's a callous that happens. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's there's a toughness that you get ready for
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  Speaker 1: the regular season and you're not gonna have that. I
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  Speaker 1: would not be surprised if you see soft tissue injury injuries,
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  Speaker 1: and also because you're not used to the speed of
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  Speaker 1: the game and guys going full speed, you're out of control,
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  Speaker 1: and what happens when you're out of control, you get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: That's where injuries happen. So I hope I'm wrong. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: you never want to see anyone get hurt, but sloppy
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  Speaker 1: football usually learns the injuries that are unnecessary. And as
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  Speaker 1: you said, Pete probably leading some big plays. Let's hope.
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  Speaker 1: I I hope it doesn't happen, but we're gonna go.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you just look at the last ten years,
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  Speaker 1: where we went from teams having training camps with two
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  Speaker 1: days and hitting and pounding and everything, the slow evolution
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  Speaker 1: through the cb A being renegotiated where you have limited
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  Speaker 1: padded practices because the head of injury concerns and everything else,
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  Speaker 1: and where that went um all the way now to
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  Speaker 1: a pandemic um shortened offseason, no preseason, to really basically
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  Speaker 1: no real football as far as preparing for the regular
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  Speaker 1: season and the speed and the intensity that happens on
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  Speaker 1: a football field. It's gonna be fascinating to see how
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  Speaker 1: this thing goes. And you know, though NFL players and
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  Speaker 1: coaches are resilient. You know that they move on guy
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt, they kick into the curb, and they play on.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same type of situation. I what about this theory, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: that guys are gonna be more rested because they haven't
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  Speaker 1: had all the work in the off seas. Remember there
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  Speaker 1: used to be that theory that guys got injury injuries
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  Speaker 1: because they worked too much on the field these days
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  Speaker 1: than they used to do. So there's there's both sides.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know at the time. Yeah, but it's you
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  Speaker 1: have to be let's make sure we differentiate between these arguments,
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  Speaker 1: because what Pete you're talking about. The argument is that
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  Speaker 1: there's no real off season anywhere. The guys are working
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  Speaker 1: out year round and so that's where you see UH
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  Speaker 1: soft tissue and a bunch of these injuries that you
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen in the past. My point is, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you've seen a reduction of serious injuries since the
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  Speaker 1: c b A. I'd love to do it. Someone has
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  Speaker 1: to have information and then UH a study and has
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  Speaker 1: the statistics or in the day to back this up
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  Speaker 1: one way or another. But the feeling I get it's
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  Speaker 1: not like we've seen a lessening of serious injuries since
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  Speaker 1: they went to this format of less hitting in camp
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  Speaker 1: and less hitting during the regular season. I don't see
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  Speaker 1: that at all. I don't think they've gone down, uh
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  Speaker 1: tremendously since when I was playing. When you beat the
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  Speaker 1: heck out at each other and training can't getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for the season. So um, I think JP is a
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  Speaker 1: little bit right. You can kind of set this argument
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  Speaker 1: how you want to fit your narrative. Uh, but Pete,
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  Speaker 1: to your point, guys getting six months off basically, maybe
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  Speaker 1: even longer eight months off from doing anything football wise
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  Speaker 1: outside of lifting weights, will there will we see less
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  Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries? Possibly because of it. It's the weirdest
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the weirdest season. But again, what's the alternative?
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  Speaker 1: Don't play? Let's play? Well, if you want to be
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  Speaker 1: the big ten in the Pac twelve, Pete, that's what
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  Speaker 1: you do. You just don't play. That's a whole another issue.
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  Speaker 1: I can't watch Arizona State when the national chance, but
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  Speaker 1: this was their year of all years, this year. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the great thing is I love about these you know schools.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll just go off on a tangent real quick,
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  Speaker 1: and you pull me back in JP. My favorite is
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  Speaker 1: the Big Big Ten canceling football. But we're gonna have camp,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have kids on campus to go to school.
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  Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. Let's bring bunch of
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  Speaker 1: kids back to campus and we're not gonna test. We
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  Speaker 1: feel okay about the safety of those kids. But the
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  Speaker 1: football players who were going to test constantly and have
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  Speaker 1: medical supervision and people watching over them, they can't play.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about hypocritical. Just takes no sense at all.
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  Speaker 1: At least the PAC twelve canceled, like USC and plays
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  Speaker 1: like that canceled, and the in person school at all.
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  Speaker 1: At least they were consistent, consistent. Here's the other thing,
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  Speaker 1: the Big Ten and the Pact. Weel, oh, we're playing
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  Speaker 1: the spring. We care so much about the safety of
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  Speaker 1: the players, so let them play seasons over the eight months. Pete,
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  Speaker 1: It's so stupid. It's like, listen, I used to hate
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  Speaker 1: the SEC, and you know, I obviously became a fan
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  Speaker 1: of the SEC because my son playing in Florida State.
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  Speaker 1: But I listen, I'm a Southern guy. Now go SEC,
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  Speaker 1: Go Obama, go Gators, let's go. I mean, they play football,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're ready to roll Um. I have to root
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  Speaker 1: for the Gators. Now. My daughter's going there. I take
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  Speaker 1: her to school tomorrow. Um, and so she goes. She's
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  Speaker 1: a Gator now, so I'm just full Southern. Now. How
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  Speaker 1: did you let her go to Gainesville? It's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good school. I don't know if you realize that, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's a really good school. You're the all
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  Speaker 1: time in Florida ripper. Your let her go to Gainesville.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, never never be the same. It's amazing what
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  Speaker 1: you know intuition does. You're darn right. It's all about
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  Speaker 1: the dollars, Pete, That's all about the dollars. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we mentioned all these possibility of soft tissue once the
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  Speaker 1: season starts, some injuries popping up in this and that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the DAGs are already beat up a little bit, guys,
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  Speaker 1: with all the changes over the last few days. We'll
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  Speaker 1: go deep into the defensive line a little bit later
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  Speaker 1: in the show, but just the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Oliver fracture of foot, a bone and his foot
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  Speaker 1: just running yesterday and he'll have surgery. He's done. Quincy
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  Speaker 1: Williams with a core muscle issue. He had surgery it
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  Speaker 1: went well, Rodney gone, we know that story, and then
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  Speaker 1: large aorda. You can't really plan for that. Then Miles
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  Speaker 1: Jack was sick today. That's not expected to be long term.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a lot going on right now for a
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  Speaker 1: football team that hasn't been in pads until today, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot happening. Well, boy, you hold your breath
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  Speaker 1: when you hear guys sick nowadays, don't you. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: immediately you go down to the lot worst case possible scenario.
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  Speaker 1: They said us not COVID related though, right that that's good,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but but it brings up the whole issue
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  Speaker 1: we right now because of the training camp and you think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, guys are being smart and everything else, but
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  Speaker 1: you have traditional injuries and you know a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more on the Jaguars, and you would like this early
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  Speaker 1: basically you've done nothing outside of one padded practice. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't even get into the fact that you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to manage this COVID thing throughout the year
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  Speaker 1: and the wild changes that you could have at any
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  Speaker 1: moment because of a guy testing positive, even if he's asymptomatic. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough situation. I mean, Josh, if
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  Speaker 1: you look at two guys last year that they really
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  Speaker 1: thought they got good value for in the draft, and
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  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams and Josh Oliver. Josh Oliver pretty much missed
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  Speaker 1: all last year, was a non factor completely. Quincy Williams
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  Speaker 1: struggled in the transition to play that will linebacker as
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  Speaker 1: a rookie. But I think you're hoping for both of
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  Speaker 1: those to be have have impactful roles. Quincy Williams for
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  Speaker 1: sure on special teams as a backup will linebacker. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's supposed to player you thought he you were hoping
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  Speaker 1: he'd have an impact on that defense and especially teams,
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  Speaker 1: being a core team player probably. And then Josh Oliver.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tight end position that boy they haven't got
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  Speaker 1: right for a long time. You know, you got Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Ifford in the off season. Um, you're hoping that for
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  Speaker 1: like you know, he hasn't been healthy for very much
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  Speaker 1: of his career at all. Uh he was last year.
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  Speaker 1: You hope you can you know, build on that. But
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  Speaker 1: Josh Oliver is the guy they thought could stretch the field,
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  Speaker 1: work the middle of the field, athletic tight end. And
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  Speaker 1: this is me the second year in the row in
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  Speaker 1: a row in his young career. You're gonna get nothing
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  Speaker 1: out of him. You wonder, Tony if a guy like
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  Speaker 1: that's injury playing. You hate to say that, but when
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  Speaker 1: a guy has back to back injuries two years in
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  Speaker 1: a row, it's not a good way to start your career.
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  Speaker 1: And we've seen guys come into the league injured, injured, injured, injured,
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  Speaker 1: and it never gets going for him. I hope that's
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  Speaker 1: not the case. But he had surgery on the foot.
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  Speaker 1: That does that sounds like a was it Liz Frank?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what it was? They didn't say. They said
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  Speaker 1: a bone in the foot, that's all they said. That
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  Speaker 1: Usually that sounds like Liz Frank. But he was in
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  Speaker 1: non contact just running down the field. That's two years
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  Speaker 1: in the row, isn't that two non contact injuries. He
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  Speaker 1: had a hamstring that was bad. That bad hamstring last
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  Speaker 1: year affected him all year. I mean he really never
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  Speaker 1: got in the field and then try to come back
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  Speaker 1: and had some other injury late in the year that
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  Speaker 1: you know, he played one or two games and now
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  Speaker 1: you have a non contact injury to the foot. So
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  Speaker 1: you just feel for the guy. It's not like he's
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  Speaker 1: trying to get hurt. I think a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: fans and people go, he's a bomb, he's no good.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying that. No, I'm not saying you.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the moniker that get hung around. Guy's next.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you. I'm just saying and I hate
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  Speaker 1: it for a guy like Josh Oliver because trust me,
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  Speaker 1: there's no one more upset than Josh right now of
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  Speaker 1: wanting to get out there, wanting to participate. But doesn't
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  Speaker 1: it sound like if he's a non contact injury running surgery,
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  Speaker 1: then it sounds like a Liz Frank. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that, but and I'm not playing doctor
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  Speaker 1: like I used to in that building, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: maybe I am. You are you actually are playing Dr
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  Speaker 1: Pete right now. You're actually saying he has a Liz
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  Speaker 1: franc I have no idea not saying he has what
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like. One No, that's what you just said.
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  Speaker 1: You literally just said it sounds like a Liz Frank.
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  Speaker 1: It's very unprofessional. And I think and say, hey, I
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  Speaker 1: used to do that walk up with Coughlin every day.
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  Speaker 1: But sell, he's hurt, right, He's got a bad leg right.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a doctor. Yes, it's a national um on
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  Speaker 1: the national you know media front. I expect more out
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  Speaker 1: of you. Frankly, I didn't say he had a list,
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  Speaker 1: frank it said it sounds like one. Would you miss ethics.
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  Speaker 1: You've been around football long enough that a guy's running
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  Speaker 1: and non contact injury and their surgery, that sounds like
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  Speaker 1: a loose frank. Let's come back. In a moment. We're
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  Speaker 1: head coach, Doug Moron coming up in a moment. Football
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  Speaker 1: I taken all that stuff for granted? You know? Am
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  Speaker 1: I just you know looking at that as you know, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: that he has an enlarged awarda that you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: not quite qualified for surgery yet, but it's a risky
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  Speaker 1: proposition for him to play football, and he announced that yesterday.
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• 20:18
  Speaker 1: back to Jaguars at Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Tony Vaselli,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco for the first time in twenty and it's
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: unfortunate news for count. The Jaguars have offered him an
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: off field role of some kind. He has not accepted.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little early in the game and but the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: offer is out there. At least guys, this is another
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: change for a defensive line that, as we just touched
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  Speaker 1: on a moment ago, has had so many changes already
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: before even getting two padded practices. Pete, that's a lot
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: of moving parts so far. You really feel sorry for
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the kid. I mean, obviously this is a situation that's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: very very serious. Uh. You know, you talk about football,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: but let's also talk about life here. I mean, this
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: is something that he needs to fix and correct for
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: his health. Now, in a normal situation with COVID not
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: being around, he comes in and does it physical right,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and then they find that and they probably don't sign him,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and he finds out about it earlier. But when did
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: they give him the physical? That's the question. Well then,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I mean they still get physical They still got physicals
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: before they signed free agents. I mean it was it
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: was just where you got the physical? Act did you do?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But was it your own doctors who did the physical?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you're you're saying the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: game the situation his own doctors. Like I'm just saying,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: maybe it's they find it in a different situation. What
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: do you think the heart went went bad between the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: time he signed at the time he showed up for camp. No.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: But again, I'm like, much like your Liz frank Like diagnosis,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want to like, I don't know what goes
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: into the typical free agent physical. I would expect him
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to do it full. If I'm gonna guarantee a guy,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I think you're ten and a half million ours guaranteed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm doing a head to toe full evaluation
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of headheart joints, you know, muscles, everything, everything. And the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: question is is did the Jaguars do that great? That's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that's the point. That's exactly what I just said. No,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: you said if you would have been here, would it
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: have been? Would it have happened? I don't know that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: The question is I don't need but the question should be,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: isn't a standard protocol regardless of where you get that
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: physical part of the specs of the physical per se, Like,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: here's the order. The order is we want a full physical,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: which includes a heart work up. What you say, now,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you gotta remember too, Rodney is from Rodney Gunters, from
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: like central Florida area, So I believe if I remember right,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I interviewed him right after and he was either in
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: town for it or was on the way to town
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: for it. So I don't think it was done um
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: on his own. I think the Jaguars were involved in this.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: And do we how do you miss that? Yeah? Before
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: we we don't know Pete. I mean I think it
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: is the long story short is but how did they
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: diagnose it? Did he? Was he having issues? Health issues
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that led to this? Is? Like? What was there some
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: event that said, hey, we need to check your heart
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: because it could be this. I mean that's the other question.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: But it's I will say, and not knowing and so
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: not you know, pointing the finger or like saying anything
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: or anyone's at fault. Maybe it was just one of
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: those bad luck situations. Um, but I would have thought
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that a full cardiac work up would be a part
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: of a physical for a free agent. I would think,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, I have I mean, you know, I'm
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: assuming a lot of stuff here, But but I'll say
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that did you have did you have physicals when you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: were playing for the team? Did you have full physicals
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: every year? Yeah? I think, yeah, I guess we did.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I think and I know I did. I didn't e
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: KG when e K G have caught that the question.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't either, and so I'm
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: not like, that's why I'm very careful. I'm not pointing
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to blame. I'm not saying it's anyway. It's no. I know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it's tragic that I feel terrible for Rodney gutting gut
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Gunter is because he can't play the game that he
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: loves and the fact that you know, I guess the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: silver lining is is he signed at least a significant deal,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: so there's a financial Um. I don't know, but if
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it's guaranteed, I mean, I don't think you love that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Typically those are guaranteed for injury. UM. I mean, unless
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: they can say it's not like he's retiring just to retire,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: he's retiring for medical reasons, I'd assume it's all guaranteed.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know any I mean, we're speculating a lot,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: but I my guess is that in all future physicals
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that this is something that the Jaguars will probably check
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: players coming in And maybe they did and they just
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: missed it. Maybe it was um undiagnosed with me. One
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of the things that we did learn is that he
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: does not qualify for the surgery because it's not quite
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: enlarged enough. UM. So maybe that caused you know, it
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to go undiagnosed or the test missed it. I mean,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: who knows, but it's just terrible. You feel awful for him, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that he's having to go through this. UM. You feel
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: awful for the Jaguars or as an organization because they're
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: counting on him, um to help be a uh defensive alignment,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that we will get them more fortified against the run,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: which they were very pooroust last year and and uh
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: struggled as we as well chronicled UM. And so it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's not good for anybody, but I think it
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: caught all of us by surprise, and I'm sure the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: future will learn a little bit more about how this
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: came about, if there was an event or something, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it would be fascinating to talk if you could, ever
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm sure no one wants to talk about
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it right now, but at some point talk to either
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars team doctors or a doctors from another NFL team.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: That's what you should be doing, Pete, your national guy.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I call some other doctors around the league. It's say, hey,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: is this something that you would typically check for during
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a free agent physical. I mean it's it's a legitimate question,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and I will check into it because I think you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: have to check the heart. How could you not, Tony? Yeah,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I listen, I don't know. Don't you to get a
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: body scan, like a body scan, like like like a
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: CT scan of your body, look at your organs and
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: stuff and make sure you're healthy. It's really technically sound, Pete.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Let me look at your organs and stuff. You know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you drink the solution and they check out your organs.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You know what that is. So I think if I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: remember right like I had, remember the combine get mrs
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: in your back and a bunch of different parts of
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: your body, your neck, your head and all that kind
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: of stuff, I think it's probably Houston as a free
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: agent or expansion whatever you were, the dumping they did
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of you when you went there. Did you do a physical? Yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, so listen, yeah, I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: don't remember. I mean I did something. I remember my soul.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I was so close to post off of my shoulder.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: They couldn't really do a good look at my shoulder,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: which I'm sure they wish they could have done all
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: over again. Um post looking back, but I remember being
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: at the hospital doing stuff. I don't remember the extent
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: of it. I'm being honest with your whole body. And
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: they started the top, they would have stopped because they
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: was so there was another air up there. That was
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the first one. Was good. That was stupid, wasn't it? Dumping? Yeah? Great,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a great a dumping from the look. Well, this adds
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to the list of changes on the defensive line over
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks have come hot and heavy
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: for the Jags and all different levels. Laurenti McCrae and
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Al Wood's both opt out. McCrae was kind of the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: third option as a but he's more of a special
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: teams player. He had no impact on the defensive mind
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: but he's roosted as a defensive end. That's the point.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Dante Vius Russell, who was that a lot of last
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: year or an active a lot of last year. He's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: on injured reserve, Bryan Price, Rodney Gunter, as we mentioned,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and then you see on the screen there gotsus read
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  Speaker 1: Davis Tomorrow and today Timmy Journey and enjoined the team.
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  Speaker 1: A guy who's been around the league for a few years.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacksonville first day in Pad's first day on
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the field for Journey again. Um, and we'll see what
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: what he can bring on the interior this. I mean, listen,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: here's a couple of things. When you look at that list,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you Adam got this that came from Denver blew out
• 28:52
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• 28:54
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• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Timmy journegins a guy like if you're literally picking up
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  Speaker 1: guys off the street, like during camp. There's a reason. Now,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Timmy Journey was an outstanding player at his peak, a
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: really good player. Now the question is is what does
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: he have left in the tank? Obviously a bunch of
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: teams didn't think very much because no one else signed him.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Wasn't he Pete close to signing in Houston? He didn't.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: He was asked about that today and he didn't have
• 29:26
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• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of about that. I don't know what that happened there,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: but he was close to signing and Houston. And look,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: he's a decent player when he's on the field. He's
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: not gonna and what player thirty players the game type
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: of guy right now? Yeah, he's they got the Hamilton
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: has to play. He has to be a he has
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to be a factor in there. Well, I'll say the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: biggest thing that has to happen now and not that
• 29:53
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• 29:58
  Speaker 1: stud like he's I mean, you're starting three technique and
• 30:01
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• 30:03
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• 30:05
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  Speaker 1: put Josh at the big end, and I think in
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  Speaker 1: GOAI will be signed. But then you think so Listen,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: first of all, he fires his agent. Now he's like,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: there's the reason he fired his agent. He should have
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: fired his getting bad advice. Secondly, he's sitting there right now.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody is going to pay him, like right now, if
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you would, it would be interesting. I'll give you one.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: You wonder what to be really interesting If the Jaguar
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: said we're taking the tag off you right now, would
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: anyone pay him eighteen million dollars to play right end
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: for him. They're not paying Clowney eighteen millions. Well, they
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: played the Falcons paid Fouler fifteen It okay, but that's
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: my point. Feller also had thirteen sacks last year. Correct.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: My question are the question, Pete, would anyone pay in
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: gock Way right now? If the Jaguars lifted the tag
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars a deal that averages eighteen yeah, no,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and the Jagga Wards offered him that and so. But
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: my point is he's the franchise at seventeen point nine.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: If I'm a goa, I'm signing right now me too,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: because no, absolutely no question about it. I don't think
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: he's getting that money anywhere else. So that's why. And listen,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yah's a smart dude. Um, he played it out. Thought
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: he could get out of here. I thought he could
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: get a better deal. Um. I think he was probably
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: getting some bad advice from his agent based on the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: market and what was out there. I mean, Clowney is
• 31:46
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• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that Clowney cannot get signed now. I think ultimately he
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: was asking for too much money too but right now
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he's an implay though. What he means when he's been
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: on the field flowny, impactful player. He doesn't watch the pass.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: We had three nap sacks last year. Yeah, but I
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: think he's disruptive. You watch him on tape. Yeah, I'm not.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't pay him e tem nineteen million dollars either.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, what does he get thirteen to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: fifteen right now? Yeah? I give I give him a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: thirteen prove it deal. You know, get some incentives in it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You gotta get ten double digit sacks, which he's never had.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I'll give him more money. But you're right, I think
• 32:27
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• 32:30
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  Speaker 1: on film. I saw that now being up close with him,
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  Speaker 1: he has that power of of Andre Johnson. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I hold Andre in high regards. That's my guy with
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  Speaker 1: good friends but I've all also seen him work every day.
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  Speaker 1: Uh see the power that he has. Uh he he
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  Speaker 1: kind of reminds me a little bit of of Andre.
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  Speaker 1: He has that type of power. Keenan mccartel, Jaguars wide
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  Speaker 1: receivers coach, discussing rookie wide receiver love Vis krischn Alt
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  Speaker 1: junior high praise for the rookie out of Colorado picked
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  Speaker 1: in the second round. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick of Pete Crisco and Tony was Sally
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty will be with you
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  Speaker 1: each and every Monday throughout the regular season and hopefully
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  Speaker 1: beyond for this Jaguars team. But you know, I was
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: walking in camp the other day a couple of days ago,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and it was the first time I had been somewhat close.
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  Speaker 1: We're still distanced, of course, from the players, and you
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  Speaker 1: can't go anywhere near them, but there are certain places
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  Speaker 1: on the edge of the practice field where they run
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  Speaker 1: nearer you than others. And that was my first up
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: close look at this guy. And I think he's listed
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: six one, two, twenty seven. He is all of that
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Pete and it seems to be rock solid this guy.
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  Speaker 1: That's big praise. When Keenan's talking names like that, throwing
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: those guys around, really big praise. And when you look
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  Speaker 1: at his body, he looks like those guys. He's a
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: big physical guy. Um. I don't know if he runs
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  Speaker 1: as well as Andre Johnson did, but I will say this,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the one thing that held him back in college was
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the only thing that held the bank college was health.
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  Speaker 1: He went on the field all the time. When he's
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: on the field, he was when he was on the
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  Speaker 1: field as a productive player, big physical, strong, could go
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  Speaker 1: get the ball. I think they might have a steel
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: on him because if he stays on the field, they
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: need that big physical presence there. It makes a lot
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: of sense. And hear Keenan say that he might want
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: to slow it down just a little bit. He only meant,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: he only meant by the body type in this style.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah, I mean, I mean, i'd agree you
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: know what he said, Pete. I would add that Keenan
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: probably needs to get some coloring on that beard, a
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: little bit of gray. That's what I was thinking. Who
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: is that old guy? God? Right? Um, yeah, listen, if
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you go back this and all, uh the year before
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: he came out. I mean he was, you know, one
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: of the most powerful receivers at all college football, and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of people say, if you have come out,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: then he had been maybe a top fifteen pick. He
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: had the what the sports turney of injury is going
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: his last year in Colorado limited. His explosiveness was still good,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was still a productive player, but it also heard him
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: as he's trying to get ready for the combines, so
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you really never saw the speed and explosiveness that he has.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: He looks healthy, he looks good out there. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's way it's too early to start making comparisons de
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Andre Johnson or ant kom Bolden, both great players, border
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: line hall of famers, maybe hall of famers. It just depends. Um.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: But boy Keened has seen a lot of guys and
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he's been around a lot of really good receivers. And
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the one thing I will say about Keenan, he does
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: not throw around compliments um that easily. So it's not
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: like he is a guy who speaks in hyperbole and
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: it is always pumping guys up a little bit more
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: than they need to be. So UM, I trust Keening.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I think he's a heck of a receiver coach and
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: uh and that's a good sign. And if listen, if
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Snal can even live up to that praise, it's a win. Yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I think he has done a really good job with
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the receivers. I think he's a good coach. Eventually he's
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be an offensive coordinator. Who knows, maybe down the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: road he could be a head coach. But but he's
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: done a really good job with that group. I mean,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: look at d J. Chark. I mean he took big
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: strides last year and I think Keaton has a lot
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to do with it. I always say this, Keenan was
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: one of the best route runners I've ever seen in
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, I Bruce Isaac Bruce was one of them,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: but Keenan was right there with him. He was special.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And that's a great thing to have if your a receiver,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: to be able to have that guy teach you. No
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: doubt about that, and hopefully it'll pay off for Jay Gruden,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars, new offense, second
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: year quarterback in Gardner Minshew. They've met virtually over the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: off season program, but finally they're on the field together.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: What does Gruden think of his signal color in the huddle. Well,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: we've mainly, like I said, we're starting installed and meeting
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: potatas of our offense, and Garter has been great. Man.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: He's had a good off season. We had the virtual
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: off season, so we got a little jump start on
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it um and then he carried over until when we
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: came back and started meeting here recently. So we've got
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: a long way to go. Yeah, a long way to go.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: He said. This offense is in diapers still the other day,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: so a lot left to be installed and learned. But
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I guess what the clock's taking a little bit opening
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: day and what a thirteen padded practices between now an
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: opening day? Uh, that's a lot to get done, Peter
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: in a short amount of time. A new offense, a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: young quarterback, a young team overall. How challenging will this
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: be for j Gruden? Well, I think it's gonna be
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: really challenging because clearly you want to see on the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: field work in in you know, May and and you
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: didn't get that, so it will set the offense back
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And when you're young, offense has set
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: it back even more, particularly the young quarterback. But Tony
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: can speak to that better than I have. Tony. You
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: just say you were starting a season and you had
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: twenty days days not just padded practices to get everything
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: in As a young offense, can you get it in?
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Are you asking me as a veteran that's about twenty
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's about fifteen days more than I might need. Um.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: But again to your point, I'm talking about from a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: perspective of the veteran who's been in an offense for
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a long time, because you understand that, you understand the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: concepts and what you're doing and everything else. The question
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I have, because I agree with you, I don't think
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: it is enough time to get everything you want in
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: with a brand new offense with a young quarterback and
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: young skilled position. You're count just talking about some not
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: you're gonna count on him jink Ar, young player. Um,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you know you got your offensive line, some young players there,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: some veterans and a good make us there. I guess uh.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: And so I think it's difficult to get everything in.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about the traditional installed period,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: especially when you have a new coaching staff, new offensive coordinator,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: UM is typically you you want to install the things
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: three times. You install them at the beginning O t
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: A s. You install them again, uh when you're on
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the field stuff, so around your mini camp, and then
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: you install the third time for training camp. And so
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: you want to go through it multiple times to get
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: everything in and to get everyone comfortable with the language
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and the philosophy and the nuances of the offense. Um,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: everything's been virtual. So they did the one install over zoom.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I worry about what was the attention span of guys
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: over zoom. I mean, I don't know about you. I
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: mean I've been living in this virtual world. You're doing
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: web exits for work and everything else, and unless you're
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: really disciplined, it's easy to have your mind drift and
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: looking at your computer and your phone and doing different
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: things because it's hard to monitor. It's not like you're
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: in a meeting together. Um. And so I think, how
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: much do guys uh pick up? How much? How much
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: gets absorbed? There would be interesting to really you know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: first time installed in person is right now, and I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: think you're j grew and you have to para path.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I mean you really have to decide, Okay, what what portion?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe we only put eighty percent of the offense and
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: compared to what we do in the past, because of
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the young quarterback and the kind of the pandemic situation
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: we find ourselves in Sony. The first year, you guys
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: are all came together. Well, if you had to be
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: in this same same type of same type of situations,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: how much do the offense could you have put in? Yeah,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I think, I think, I mean, that's my guess. It's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: a wild guess. And I look at that first year
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: when we were putting everything new in UM and now
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: was all new players, all new coaches. At least you
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: have some familiarity with guys that you were here last year,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: so it's not quite as dire. But I mean, I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: look at the multiple o t as we had, many
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: camps we had and then we went to training camp
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: July six July. S let this settle in for all
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: you listening. That was six weeks ago. And so yeah, yeah,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: well some of you flew home on a private jet,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have the whole training. Yeah, that's you still have
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: some guys, some guys who work in this building now
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: in the building didn't show up. You remember that's a
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: different that's a different name of name Lockerman. He showed
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: up July eleven. Still, I mean so, but think about
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: and we had five preseason games. I mean, think how
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: much time we have the insult no preseason little. I mean,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I just don't think you can get it all in.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I would Okay, here's the question. There's some veterans. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: would say, do you point is a way? Is there
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: a way to point the install toward the early opponents
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: in the season, or is it installed totally separate from
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Do you do you crafted to
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the first two or three weeks upon it? I think
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that's dangerous because you have to put the concepts and
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: it's a philosophy like who you are you're gonna be
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: good at. You have to figure that out as a
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: coaching step, like not all players can do all things.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Like I'm of the opinion that Leondard for Nette, is
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: a better back out of the eye then single back,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and I think he's run better, and so that determines
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: like what you want to do. Well, that's interesting because
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I think Gardner Mintshew is better at a shotgun. They're
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: underneath and so you have to figure out your philosophy
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: of what guys can do, like what can so don't do?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: He's a rookie, like what is he comfortable? Is he
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: good at running underneath routes? Is he an outside guy?
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Come back? Is he? You know? I don't know, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you have to learn that kind of stuff. And so
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I think the first thing you have to do is
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: you have to be figure out what your identity is.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: And the danger is is like, let's just start game
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: planning for indeed, because guess what, you know what happens
• 46:51
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• 46:56
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• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you have get to say you have the offense? And
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: do you ever get to at some point during the season. Um,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: that's a great question. I would guess. No, I don't
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: think Jake Gruden put everything in this year, that's my sense. Um,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: But only he knows that. Let's come back in a moment,
• 47:17
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• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I mean every seat sold. And I bring that up.
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  Speaker 1: So if you fly American and you go through Charlotte,
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  Speaker 1: as you're like hub connecting city, the Charlotte airport is packed.
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  Speaker 1: Huh no neither, Jeff lows. You know. It's so it's
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  Speaker 1: so interesting, and I got stuck. I was I went
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  Speaker 1: covert location are you at? With a weight that that
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  Speaker 1: looks like an office? Between? In between questioning, I get coffee. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, I was in undisclosed small market playing golf
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  Speaker 1: and uh and we're trying to leave to come home,
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  Speaker 1: and our flight got canceled and we literally could not
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  Speaker 1: get home until like the following night because there are
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  Speaker 1: so few right this place to get back. Um back,
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  Speaker 1: that was fine. Who said I was in Wisconsin? You've
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: gone there before, you have a trash press. I've been
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  Speaker 1: a lot of places to play golf. You've gone to Wisconsin.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I was not playing. I will say this. I have
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  Speaker 1: not been to Wisconsin this year to play golf. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's great, especially the young guys. You know,
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  Speaker 1: practices are on the docket and the days moving ahead.
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  Speaker 1: But Doug Morone there guys discussing all the changes that
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: have happened the last week or two, especially on the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: defensive line for this Jaguars football team. The latest yesterday
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  Speaker 1: last two or three weeks of transactions on the d line,
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of new faces coming in. Some guys
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  Speaker 1: that they had counted on in free agency are not
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: going to be available this year, including al Woods and
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: at Rodney Country. So a lot of unknown and a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: lot of change now in this Jaguars defensive line, new
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: offense continues to be installed, and as we've talked about
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: earlier on the show today, there's only a limited amount
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: of time to get that done before opening day. You
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: don't have any dress rehearsal games, no preseason games, none
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  Speaker 1: of that. You have to go out and practice it
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and then show up Week one ready to play. So
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  Speaker 1: a challenge for a young football team. And as Doug
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Maron said, there, hey, we've got to get these guys
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: that are here ready and then once we get a
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  Speaker 1: little closer, maybe down the road, if they have to
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: make some changes and make some additions, there are ways
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: to do that. So there's a lot going on, Pete,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: this is a lot of a lot of balls in
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: the air right now to juggle for Doug Moron and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell. Yeah, it's a challenge. It was going to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: be a challenge the young team of coaching staff that
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: had some changes. A coach Stick came back. Some people
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: thought he wasn't gonna come back, and so there we're
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: going to be challenges and now I think there's even more.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: They didn't you know, you don't expect guys to opt
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: out like Al Woods and uh, you know who knew
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: there was gonna be a pandemic and Rodney Gunter situation,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: so on and on it goes, and it's more of
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: a challenge. With Doug Brown, I'll tell you we I
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: had him in on my show last week and he
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: seems as loose as I've ever seen him, almost like
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: he feels free. Maybe he's free of Tom Coffin, but
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: he feels free. And he seemed that way. He looks better,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: he lost a bunch of weight, he looks thin, looks healthy,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: looks seemed like he had a good approach. So we'll see.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: But it's a challenge. Let's be honest. This is a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: rebuilding year, yeah, and I think I agree with all
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: the things you said. The interesting thing you bring up
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a rebuilding year that's hard to sell and get people
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: excited when you can't say it's a rebuilding year after
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: coming off seasons of what five and six wins in
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: back to back years, And and that's the difficult, you know,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: kind of task that I think David Doug have right now,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: is because the last thing anyone wants to hear is
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: that it's rebuilding. And you know, I think one of
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the reasons that um as we were explained before the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: pandemic that uh, Dave and Doug worked. What's out of nowhere? Um,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: your sister bring you a tissue too, that'd be great tissue, PA, tissue. Um.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: But one of the reasons that David Doug came or
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: were stayed and retained is because they gave them the
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: best chance. This give this guy Clarington, I don't even
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: know how to stop. And it's like there's no cough,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: butting nor anything in this world we live in right now. Um. Sorry,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: that's very one more please the coming three. But you
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But that wasn't that one of
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: the reasons because that they kept Doug and Dave because
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: it gave him the best chance with the young quarterback
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: young team to win this year and to compete for
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: the division, to compete for the playoffs. And so I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: think Pete, a lot of people don't like when you say, well,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: this is a rebuilding year and it's difficult. Oh, I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: mean the facts of the facts. Look at the roster,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: look at the young guys are gonna be forced to
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: play the quarterbacks A young guy. I just don't see
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: how it's anything. But now they might be more competitive
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: in games than We're gonna give him credit for, particularly
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks, better than you know he was last year.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: But again, on the surface, it looks like a rebuild.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: But Pete, I mean, j P, would you not agree
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: with That's kind of the sentiment coming in about keeping
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: the David Doug and kind of what we were striving
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: for this year. It seemed like and and and Dave
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: talked about that the other to day. He had a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: meeting with the media video conference and said, when you know,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: when they were building for seventeen, they had the understanding
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: that this offseason they're gonna have to make some moves
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: and some changes and probably go a little younger. And
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: they have acquired those draft picks a lot of those
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: for this year. Twelve of them had ended up being
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: so they had the idea that it was gonna be
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: at some point the way they built that in seventeen,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: it would come down. Wait a second, now, so you're
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: telling me in the plan, I mean, there was a
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: plan they said, the way they the way they built
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: that at some point you can't pay all those guys
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: forever that changes. I mean, okay, that's fine. I mean
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I think we all do that. But to say it
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: was part of the plan. I mean, I don't think it.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Twenty after seventeen, everyone thought that you were gonna win
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: five and six games the next two years. Where and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone thought like, hey, part of our
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: plans acquired draft picks by getting rid of our best
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: defensive player, Jen Ramsey. But even now if they one
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: ten games and then nine games and got in the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: playoffs all three years, but that's the contracts are still
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the contracts. But yeah, but that's a much different feeling
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: then read. I'm just responding to pets comment that this
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: is rebuilding. You don't typically say we're rebuilding after winning
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: five and six games in consecutive years. That's not what
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: you hear and want to hear. And so quickly my point,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm not disagreeing. I understand what Davi is saying
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: that when you paid high free agents and you build
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: the way they did for seventeen, that sooner or later,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: you know, here it comes calling your salary cap and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: you gotta, you know, make some changes. I just don't
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: think part of those changes would ever envision, you know,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: not having Jan Ramsey on this roster or not having
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: your fighting within gokway, you know him not being here.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I mean these are two in Dante Fowler, who's the
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: double digit sack guy. I mean, you go down the list,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: and I agree with that you couldn't keep them all.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: But to say it was part of the plan to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: acquire draft picks to be in this situation to rebuild,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I just I mean, I have a hard time buying that.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: That's all. Well, wouldn't you rather rebuild to try and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: build something special than be seven and nine, eight and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: eight every year and that kind of like what the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins are doing now. I'll tell you what, if
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: you're asking me, I'd take eight date right now, because
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: who was the last time this team was eight? Nate
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: isn't good. You'd rather be rebuild the whole thing the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: right way and get to ten, eleven, ten, ten consistently,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: not not eight and eight and then have this you know,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: seven and nine, six and ten seasons that no for
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: something special? Okay, but are you saying that then you
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: should be trying to get like two wins this year
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: and get the first pick overall? Well, that would be
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: a bad thing. Tagging for Trevor Baby well, I guess
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: my point I'm just this is a response to I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: think it's difficult to say that after winning five and
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: six games that you're in a rebuilding here, because really
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: what you've been, That's all I'm saying, and I'm not
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: disagreeing with you eight and hate. If you're eight and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: eight over and over and over again. You never get
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: the right pieces unless you hit in the draft in
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: those mid rounds, I mean the middle of the each round,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: which you can do. We've seen teams do that. Not
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: all teams go to the very bottom top of the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: draft and rebuild their way up. I mean you've seen
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the Ravens and a number of teams that availed to
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: stay at the you know, middle to upper echelon of
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the NFL for a number of years um. And so
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: that's the difficult thing to Pete. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: And so it's they had the seasons they had, but
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: they weren't expecting them. They had veterans still in place,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: and like JP said, there was some high price contracts there.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Now you get your rid of those and you start
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: building with the younger players. That's why it's more of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: a rebuild. I know, nobody wants to hear that when
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: you go fight when you win five games, but two
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be bad. That means you get Trevor Lawrence. Oh,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: and I guess two things, and we'd like to beat
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: this up. It's one. I don't think anyone likes to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: hear about rebuilding after winning five and six games. And
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I just have a hard time believing this is all
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: part of the plan. I mean to what JP was
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: referring to earlier in conversations, like this is part of
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: the plan and we're in a good position now. I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: mean like, I just have a hard time buying that
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: that we're sitting here in seventeen saying like this has
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: gone to so what's your name, Tony? I didn't say
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: it was part of that's what you said. I said.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: They knew there would be contracts coming up and they
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: would probably have to go younger this year, and that's
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: what they've had to do because of the situations. Didn't
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: expect that they paid Blake Bortles. They figured he'd be
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. Come on, you pay him, you think he's
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: gonna be the quarterback? There were things went wrong. If
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: that was the case, then why did you ever pay?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Then you would if that was really the case, Let's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: say that, like, you knew this is what you have
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: to do, why did you pay Blake? You play Blake
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: because you thought you the franchise guy. Okay, that didn't
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: work out? And if you knew that was the case,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: then why did you give Nick Foles eight million dollars
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: guaranteed over four years? Like That's where I just it's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to say, like it's almost like, hey,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: it didn't work out the way you want to do,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: and we now we're going to start over and we're
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: gonna go young because of contracts that we paid that
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: you know, we're over priced and didn't work out to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: our ends. That's it right there, and that's like that's accurate.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: But to say, like, oh, we knew we'd be in this,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: then why didn't you pay these people all this money?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: With my question? And I think it's hard to say
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: that and to say, oh, we're just going to rebuild.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Now we'll wait a second, that's what we've we like
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: rebuilding on what. Yeah, they thought two thousand eighteen was
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: an aberration that the guys started reading their press clippings.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: It went bad. It didn't happen but they could regroup
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: a nineteen, which is why they went and got folds,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: which was a major mistake, I agree with you. And
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: then when that kept going bad, then they decided now
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: it's time to do the whole thing. And that's accurate.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: And really what you find out is that seventeen was
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: the admiration. Correct. You can't win consistently that way, playing
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: that way in the NFL. It's like the Titans. Do
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: you think the Titans are a legitimate championship team this season?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: A legitimate Um? No, I don't think so, but I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: mean they went to the championship game last year, just
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: like Jaguars did. No, but I think they're legitimate, uh
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: wild card playoff team. If I would have said that
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: about Jacksonville in two thousand eighteen, fair, but I'm saying
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: but if you look at it, so I guess my
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: I've always thought that Tanny Hill is probably a better
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: quarterback than Portals. Well, he's better how much he's in
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: front of her yards and two playoff games and they
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: won because they never throw it through it. They handed
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: off every day down and that's not sustainable. That's the point.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Just like the Jaguars that you and I agree on that.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: So just um, how as you were talking about the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: season and expectations everything else. I mean, every year you
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: do your you you know, picked the games and based
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: on the schedule, how many games? I haven't done it yet?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Are you haven't done it yet? No, I'm working on it,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: but I haven't finished it yet. You are you close?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I'd say half they're gonna win four games at best,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: and they'll be competitive in a bunch of them. I
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: think then they're just not good enough. And again, what
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: do you what do you get mince you, Tony? What
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: do you think he is? We don't know. I don't know.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I hope he's I mean, I hope, I hope he is.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: What I've heard early in the training camp from the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: reports of people there, um that he is looking good
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and spinning it good and he's like taking the step
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: and progressing and everything else. That's what I hope he is. Like,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Not that don't it's not that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it, but I don't believe it until
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: we get into the regular season because so much of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: that change is once you under It's so hard to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: evaluate a young quarterback, you know, without being hit in
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: the pressure. And what's the ceiling pot from an individual
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: or is a team? Yeah? Like from an individual, this
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: is pretty good last year. Yeah, he's pretty good last year,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: and I think it's ceiling his thirty and you know,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: let's say fourth and ten. Yeah, that would be a
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: good year if that, if he has that year. Do
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: you draft a quarterback if you're in that position, what pick?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: What pick do I have? And who's on the board? Well,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: forget if you throes thirty ten Tony Deshaun Watson hasn't
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: thrown thirty in his career. Highest number you got. Maybe
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: if if he goes four thousand, thirty and ten year,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: passing on Trevor Lawrence if you have the first overall pick.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: I'm never passing on Trevor Lawrence on fields. I actually
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: seen so little of him playing, so I don't know.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't seen enough to be fair. Look,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not passing on Trevor Lawrence. Ever, I don't care
• 1:14:14
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• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: traded for that pick, you pick them, right, you have to,
• 1:14:20
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• 1:14:23
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• 1:14:26
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• 1:14:28
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• 1:14:33
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  Speaker 1: Tony BASSELLI, Pete Prisco, glad you're along with us, first
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  Speaker 1: a moment. But as promised, it is our Tony BASSELLI
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: look at the offensive line and that the most notable
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I think battle I think right now is a left
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: tackle if you would you even call it a battle
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson will Richardson, Um, what do you think, Tony?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it should be. I mean, as
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: much as I love Cam Robinson, did you do anything
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: last year to say that you were convinced that he
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: is your weft tackle? He said he felt comfortable the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: last four to five games of the season. He really
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: felt like himself again coming back not off only that
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: that a c l here, but remember he injured the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: other leg early in the season and missed the first
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: two games. Yeah, and listen, I think he's a guy
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: that has all kinds of talent and fat ability and toughness,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: and he's a nasthenst about him that I loved having
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: him on the football field. However, we talked about it
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: last Thursday night. The footwork issues that he had pre
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: date an the a c L and the issues. You know,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: you could say that early in the his second year,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: he was not playing great football when he got hurt.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Um he struggled obviously coming back from it and then
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: had another injury. Um. I love the toughness and the
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: grit that he showed. Uh and so I you know,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: but based on all that, I was shocked last year
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: they didn't give will Richardson a chance to overtake him
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: at left tackle, especially the way will Richardson played in
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: those first two games. So I think it it should
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: be a real competition. Um. I think they should, you know,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: have wide open competition. Breeds, um, you know, higher play
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: in true competitors, which I think both of them are.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: I think that Cam Robbins will end up winning the job.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: But if I was dead coach, I wouldn't just give
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: it to him. Um, by no means would I do that. Yeah,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: But how do you decide who's the guy from the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: eleven batted practices? Yeah, that's impossible. That's the flip side
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why I think it's gonna end
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: up being Cam Robinson, because I don't think there's enough
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: opportunities for will where to overtake them. But you give him,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: you can only give him a couple of three games
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: to make sure he's playing better football than you make
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: the change. Right now, I'm evaluating, I mean the messages
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, listen, we're gonna evaluate this weekend week out.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a competitive process. And and obviously, at
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: some point, if Cam plays at the level we know
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: he's all capable of, and we all hope he plays that,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: didn't you know, he solidifies that starting left tackle position.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: But until then, I give all richest in the chance
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: and to compete and practice and try to give him
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: as may looks as possible. But this is one of
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: the things that this pandemic shortened training camp is gonna cause,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: is gonna be part of one of the effects of
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: it is hard for guys who are fighting for positions
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: and they're not the incumbent, it's hard for them to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: overtake and win that job. So so you would say
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: on opening day, Cam Robinson stocks no matter, no matter what. Yeah,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: the interesting thing is and for an offensive line that
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: was highly criticized last year of not being very productive
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: and literally to the point where the head coach said
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: he couldn't play Nick Foles because he wasn't he needed
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: a quarterback who could run around and extend plays. If
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: you remember, that was part of the justification of going
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: to um Gardner Minshew was his ability to get out
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: of trouble. Never what you want to hear as an
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: offensive line, they're like, hey, my our head coach is
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: going with the guy who can make people miss um.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: But but that's what he said. Um. In light of that,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna roll out the same exact
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: offensive line that they had last year that for all
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: sixteen games. Well, the hope is Taylor plays looks better
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: and he was good, but he plays much better in
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: the second season. You hope is that you mentioned Cam
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Robinson's healthy again and maybe he's picked some of his
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: footwork issues. I think Linda is solid in the middle.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Norwell has his games where he looks good. Sammy looks bad,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: but he's been okay. And then the right guard inconsistency
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: has been his major problem. A j Can. One game
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: he looks like he's a really good player. In the
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: next game, he looks like he's not very good. Yeah.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: I think Ben Bart, the young kid from St. John
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: he played right away though I don't think I mean,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: I think ultimately that's what they like him to fight
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: for that right guard position. He's a big, physical guy.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: UM played tackle and you know Division three football, So
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna you know, especially with no
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: preseason or anything else, I don't think he'll end up
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: uh in that starting lineup. So I think it's gonna
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: be you know, Cam Robinson, Norwell, Linda A j Can,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Joan Taylor sat group we have last year, Um, going
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: into that first week, it'll be interesting though, and I really, um,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: I think you got to give Will Richardson an opportunity
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: based on what we saw last year. Al Right, guys,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: I know, Tony, it's your favorite segment Every Monday. Social
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Media questions questions from our listening audience. We put out
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: the ask early in the day. Here's what we received.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Let's start. I'm a man of the people. No you're not. Yeah.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Question one from at Marcus Parsley. Will the Jags rotate
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: their rookie and Avery Jones at nose tackle on early
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: downs or will we see a big guy signing to
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: reduce the rookies snap count? Tony are gonna play. I mean,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, if anyone who thinks that just because he
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: was a you know, what was your fourth round draft
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: pick um at Ohio State, that he's going to be
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: the guy, I mean Devon Hamilton's, I mean Avery Jones
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: will be your starter. I think Devon Hamilton's come in
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: as a rotational player and maybe he wins the job.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: But I said it earlier. I think you're starting four
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: down linemen or Josh Allen, Abey Jones, Pamon Bryant and
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Yannike and Gockway. I don't think there is anyone to
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: go get out there that he's gonna come in and
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: help you. Uh the only creative thing that I heard
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: that could be a possibility. Can you trade Unique and
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Gockway because you have uh cha Chase on Um to
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: step up in there because you trade him for a
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: big body interior defensive linement. Well, there are guys still
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: out there. Isn't snacks. No, Marcel Daris is still out there. Yeah,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: but I mean funny, and I think I think he's
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: pretty much done the since I got I've heard that too. Yeah,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: I think Marcel has done a lot of money his career. Marcell,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: he absolutely has, absolutely has our next question from at
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Newly Bill, This is kind of what we're talking about
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: a moment ago in the offensive. Why do you think
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: the old line will step up this year and for
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: form to their potential? And can Ben Bart enter the
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: starting lineup? Tony? I don't think Ben bars will start
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: to be in the starting lineup unless there's an injury
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: early in the season. I think he has a chance
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: maybe throughout the season UM to have. They'll definitely get
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: him in there and see what he can do. I
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: think it's the same five guys. I hope that they're
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: much better and I think literally I'm gonna put a
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: lot of it on Camber Robinson. I think Cam Robinson
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: is a guy that just needs to continue to play
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: up to his potential what they draft about Alabama to do,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: and that's to be a franchise left back. He's been
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: a little tune and consistent. Um, he's a good powerful
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: run blocker and his footwork in the past game, which
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: we've talked about, Jeff and I've talked about beat and
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: I've talked about We've gone through it on the film. Um,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: he has some real technique flaws that he has to
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: clean up. If he can do that. I think he's
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: an outstanding player. And it's a big year for Cam
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Robinson because if he plays well, I mean he's looking
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: at making seventeen to nineteen million dollars next year in
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: the open market if he has a really good year
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: at left back one. And that's what those guys are
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: getting paid. Now, Tony, who's the swing Tackle'll be Will Richardson? Yep, uh,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: you'll keep Ben Barts. That's two. Shad Lee maybe. Where
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: who's the ninth lineman or the tenth lineman. Where are
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: these guys coming from? I mean who knows. I mean
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of guys on practice squad
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: as well. I mean it'll be interesting, and I think
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have flexibility bringing guys up and down because
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen. So um, it's I don't think you're
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: looking at just nine eight nine. I mean you might
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: be looking at fourteen with the extra practice squad guys
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: and you're keeping Before we move on from that, we
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: were talking about tight ends. One of the problems with
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: the run game last year is they couldn't block. Yeah,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: well yeah, right, And so when you look at it,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: and this is so before I before I get there
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: peak and I wanted to say something again that I
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: just said it for the first time. Um, but it's shocked.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, Cam Robinson, if he had some good year,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: could make seventeen to nineteen billion dollars. He looks like
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: you and your prime. Then I'm talking about the kid
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Houston's getting Larry Thompson was getting twenty two a year,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: because I'm not saying he is, you know, but like, okay,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: if he I just said, if he comes out and
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: has a really good year as a left tackle, Okay,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: would you agree he's making fifteen minimum? Yes, I mean
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Eric Flower has got ten a year. He couldn't block you.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: I mean he's getting fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. It's a big
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: year for Cam Robinson. So I just had to say
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: that again because I said it once and I was like, wow,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: there's a lot riding on this year, um for Cam,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: and I wish him the best. I hope he gets paid.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Tight End is still a huge concern for me. But
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: they could not run the ball because of tight end issues.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Josh Albert was never a blocker. He's gone. James of
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Shaughnessy coming off a knee injury. I don't think is
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: he out there yet even practicing JP. But you know,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: we know what you know, coming back from an a
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: c L means it takes time. Uh. You have Tyler
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Eiffert not never been known as a dominant blocker in
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: this league even when healthy. UM, and then you have
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: to ty Tyler Davis. This is your UM and Charles Jones.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the depth chart right now. You have
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Charles Jones and who else do you have about there
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: that could even draft pick from Georgia Tech played most
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: of his time at YU Kon and UM. Yeah, O'Shaughnessy
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: was off to the side today, but he's on and
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: off depending on the day. They don't have one. I
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: mean Charles Jones would probably the one, is the one blocker,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: but again he's an undrafted second year player that barely
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: played it all last year. Like again, you look at it,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: um and not that there was a lot of things.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could have gotten into the
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Austin Hooper Uh. Uh, you know, sweep steaks and overpaid
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: for a free agent tight end. He's a big physical
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: that you know maybe would have helped you out there. Um,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: you know there was all the complaints about uh uh
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: David and Jacko from Cleveland. Maybe he was looking to lead,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: but he's more a possession guy. Uh. But my point
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: is they haven't solved it. I mean they have if
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: you look at this, here's an amazing thing. They let
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: go of Marcedes Louis after the seventeen season. And Marcedes
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Lewis was never gonna scare you as a great receiver.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: It was good red zone player and an outstanding blocker.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: But I'm not mistaken. He's still playing for the Green
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers. He's still in the upper echelot of blocker
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: tight ends in the NFL. And we let him go
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: from a team that wants to run the ball and
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: we have yet to replace him on this team. Yeah,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: that's one of their mistakes. Chris. You've got to be
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: able to block the edge, and that's been a major problem. Well,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: and and you're talking about a low price position. I mean,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's making a Green Bay, but
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of million dollars in today's NFL, I mean
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: the general public, it's a ton of money. Good, a
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: ton of money for the three of us on this show.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: We love two million dollars to do the show, Um,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: if anyone's listening. Um, But in the NFL, you know
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, it's not a lot of money.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: And I it's for a team that wants to run
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: the ball, Um, it is concerning. And for a team
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: that wants to throw the ball, it's concerning because again,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: where is the where is the threat at the tight
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: end position in the passing game? Like even Tyler Eifer,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: who is healthy for the first time and what two
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: or three years last year pete Um, you still think
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: he only had forty five catches. But he's when he's
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: really truly healthy, he's a threat. He's a threat that
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be a great blocker like you mentioned.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: One final social question from at Kempy under School, Ryan,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: and this is about the tight end. We talked about
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: this earlier. It's a little aggressive, but is John Oliver.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. This is embarrassing to me. I don't
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: think it's fair to the key it. Um. It's not
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: like we don't let's not put stuff like up on
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: the screen like this, because I don't like doing that.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: The young guys, well, we talked about it earlier. About Yeah.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just could jinks. You don't know. I
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's anything. And when a guy has
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: injuries the first two years tony guys start answering the question.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: That's fine, but made him glass. I mean that's taking
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: a shot at him, and I think it's uncalled. You
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: don't like that. I know you don't like that. So
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: on the other side, we'll do we should do something
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: that you really like. We should cut the team. First
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: of all, we said this and you walked away, Pete
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: or you weren't listening because your headset is the worst antiquated,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: the same thing I've ever seen. I don't know what
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: you're talking about. And uh is that there's only eighty
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: guys in camp. You're gonna keep fifty five on the
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: active roster and sixteen on practice squad. You're cutting nine guys.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: But let's do it. Well, come back, we might be
• 1:31:54
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• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: around each other for quite some time, and um, we
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• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: like mask up at all times. I mean, I don't
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: have to wear my mask right now, but I just
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  Speaker 1: know wearing it. This promotes people to like make sure
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: that they have theirs one at all times because it's
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  Speaker 1: this key it's not really about you personally wearing the mask.
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  Speaker 1: INNFL season. You know, Yeah, that's it was. He was
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: wearing that under his helmet the other day, Pete. It's
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: not just in the building for him. He was actually
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: trying that type of mask out, a normal mask like
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: you and I would wear walking around into a restaurant
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever under the helmet, just to see how it
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: works out. This is the time where guys are are
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: trying different things, whether it's the the full face shield
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: with advisor above there over the eyes and then the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: mouth and nose shield below that and Oakley has created,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: or a mask underneath. The first few days and helmets
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: are a good time to try those different things out. Yeah,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you can play with that pulled
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: up over your nose and mouth. I would have problems
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: with that. And here's the thing, and I don't know
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: what kind of mask that is. But if I mean,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: there was a study that just came out, you know
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: that the gators and bandanna bandanas, and that looked like
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: a gator to me. But I don't want to speak
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: to what kind of materials may it of, but that
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: it's actually creates a higher rate, or it's more dangerous,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: or it's worse to wear a gator or a bandana
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: as a mask because of what it does through the droplets.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: It actually makes them a finer air assault and they
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: hang in the air longer than if you wore no
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: mask at all. And so I mean, this came from Duke.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: This is not you know, this is not the Tony
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Boselli School of medicine. This is actually Duke, which is
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't know we had two doctors on the show
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden. This is I believe it was
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Duke University, very obviously well respected. What it tells me
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: a mask is not a mask, and so what you
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: wear matters. And what they're telling what they're saying is
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: a gay or in a bandana, and that looks like
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: a gator to me. Again, maybe it's a different kind
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: of material because the guy's in the NFL, you know,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: different resources or whatever. Um, But you know, just to
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: wear it because it's you feel like it's like the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: right thing to do from like make sure we were
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: in the right kind of mask. I'm with Pete as
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: if I was a player number one year outside, UM,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: the risk of transmission if you look at all the
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: experts on any side of the aisle and any anything else,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: if you're outside, you know, the ready to transmission is
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: much much lower. UM. And I would not wear anything now.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: If I was told I had to wear one of
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: those face shields, I obviously would. I'm not going to
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: not play, But if it's up to me, I'm not
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: gonna wear anything because of the heat. UM. Nowhere I'm
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: wearing a gator uh or anything else. If I don't
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: have to, That'd be my personal choice. Unless unless I
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: was told by the NFL and the p A that hey, listen,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: we want all the players to wear these oakleff field
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: match field or whatever, then obviously you got to do it. Now.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: I haven't been to anybody's facility, but talking to a
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: lot of guys around the league, owners have spent a
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: lot of money to try and make their facilities safe
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: for the football players. And JP, have you been down
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars facility. I have not been in the
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: buildings since you haven't either, right, No, no, But like
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: they put up all different types of uh you know,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: guard guard rails and uh everything, plastic weight room in
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: the weight rooms which haven't been big enough. They made
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: them outside for him. I mean, they've done a part
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: plexiglass everywhere. They've done a great job, and it's an
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: expensive thing and those tests costs a lot of money.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: So let's just hope that some knucklehead on some team
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: that's like player number seventy seven doesn't decide that he's
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: going to go out to the bar and bask in
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: his short shelf life as an NFL player. And back
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: in fact, everybody or sneak a female friend into the
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: facility addressed as a player. That was amazing. What if
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: the star had done that when they have caught him? No, No,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: that's that's the greatness of coaches. Though we're consistent. We
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: treat everybody the same. No you don't. Yeah, so you're
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: telling me that if Russell Wilson got caught stinking his
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: wife into the facility dressed as a player that Pete's
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: gonna cut her their eyes and it would not even
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: have been reported, like no one would ever have found
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: out about it have been buried. Um. But those guys though,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: to those young players at the but that's where you
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: need the veteran leaders to step up and say, guys, listen,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: we gotta take the serious because it's affecting all of
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: our pay in this league and everything else. So yeah,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: you can't be stupid. And I take my hat off
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: to both the PA and the NFL owners. Um, I
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: think they have them this really well, not easy, big
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: economic issues in front of you. Financial ramifications based on
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: what happens. Um a lot of risk out there economically
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: and health wise. And if you watch the Major League
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Baseball like just fall all over themselves and not be
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: able to figure it out, and really around a sport
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: that probably it's easier to manage lest players, the dial
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: of the game and everything else. And they literally couldn't
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: figure out because the economics reasons. It was embarrassing and
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: for me at least I thought it was didn't look good.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: And here comes the NFL, the most complex sport to
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: play during the pandemic. The most players on the team
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: close quarters. Impossible to have social distancing when you're on
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: the field. And I take my hat off to the
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Players Association and Menephoners because they got it done. And
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: for the most part it was pretty dang smooth. Obviously
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: intense moments back and forth, using the media where they
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: needed to to get their message across normal negotiations, but
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: never a risk of not playing, never a risk and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: not starting camp on time. And the owners did a
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: very good job of using making sure. Like to your point, Pete,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: I've heard it across the league that the owners invested
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: big dollars to make sure players were as safe as possible. Yeah,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: but you know, here's the difference with baseball. Baseball's traveling.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: You know how guys are, and you know nobody wants
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: That's you're missing my point, no travel whatever. I'm talking
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: about the front end. They couldn't figure it out, the
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: economics of it. You know, I agree with you there.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: They wasted about a month trying to haggle with each
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: other and they could have played games. But you're talking
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: about the test. But the testing also is interesting because
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: remember the NFL I thought that we're gonna be a
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: boatload of guys when they came back that tested positive,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: and there wasn't And a majority of those guys have
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: already come back baseball. The Marlins go out on the
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: road and they infect fifteen guys. So yeah, I think
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest difference. They're still in first place.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: You gotta be first of all, you gotta be smart too.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: You can't go out to the clubs and go out
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: and party in and bars and everything else. If you're
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: a young guy, and I get it as a young guy,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: that's what you like to do. But right now in
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: this world, if you want to be a professional and
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: you want to play sports, you just can't do it.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen that she had an article on the
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: break in the Wall Street Journal about the University of
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: North Carolina just canceled all fall classes on on campus
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: classes a C C team, You talk about ramifications. I
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: wonder if they're gonna even play football now, because if
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: they're gonna allow the regular students on campus, are they
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: gonna have football players on camps? And the reason was
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: is because after ten days I think it was being
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: back on campus, they're like almost two hundred or just
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: under two hundred positive cases a thirty percent positive case
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: around of tests they gave. Because these kids come back
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  Speaker 1: and their kids are like you and I, Pete and JP,
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  Speaker 1: we were all the same way. You get back, you
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  Speaker 1: want to hang out, you go party, you know, go
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  Speaker 1: to your friends and do whatever you're gonna do. But colleges,
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  Speaker 1: like that's why I think college is gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: hard time trying to figure this whole thing out. As
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  Speaker 1: much as I want to football to be played, because
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: you have so many factors and variables around kids on
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: a campus, but this has to be different. If you're
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, this is your job. Like my wife
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: and I was funny, we were talking about this, and
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: I'd love to get your guys opinion, and we were
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: talking about, like where would I do because you had
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: players opt out and everything else, which I respect, and
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: you know, every soldier, a fellow left out, will opted out,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: his child has has had cancer and everything else, and
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: some guys have opted out because they have newborn babies.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I respect all that. But my wife and I asked,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: and I said, what do you think we would do?
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: And basically her response was like this is what we're
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna go stay at the hotel for
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: six months and go play football because that's your damn job,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll today home to take care of the kids.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: It was interesting because it was like, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that's the right decision for everybody, but like for
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  Speaker 1: our family, we thought about it, like because I was
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  Speaker 1: as we were going through that, I'm like, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think we do in And I said, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to play, and she's like, yeah, you better
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: go play. It's like your job, Like go stay in hotel,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: we can face time to the kids. You can go
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  Speaker 1: play football. And because if you think about it, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of professions in the this world where guys
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  Speaker 1: leave home for extended periods of time. I mean the
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  Speaker 1: on a list. And so it's not like it's abnormal
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: like to go like like if I had to make
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  Speaker 1: a decision, and it's really interesting. And this is where
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: it gets so selfish for me to one like a
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  Speaker 1: long career in the NFL is ten years, So if
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  Speaker 1: you don't play one year you're taking away ten percent
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  Speaker 1: of your career. That's a lot, and you don't realize
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  Speaker 1: that when you're in the middle of it. The second
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  Speaker 1: thing is if I had to sit there and look
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  Speaker 1: at my earning potential as a professional athlete and I
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  Speaker 1: had I'll say, if I was, if I was at
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: the level of player I was when I played the
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: best left tackle. So I've been making twenty million dollars
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: this year, and I was gonna look around and say, Okay,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I either can opt out because maybe my family, my
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: mom or my wife, daughter, kids, son has an underlying
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: health issue. I can opt out and stay home, which,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: by the way, if you're gonna do that, that means
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: you can't leave the house at all. Because you're saying
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna protect them, that means don't leave because of
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: what you're you'd expose yourself with everyday life. Would I
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: do that? Which is I respect that option? Or would
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: I say, Hey, I'm gonna go live in a hotel
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: for six months and i will make sure my family
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: is not exposed at all, and I'm gonna play football.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: I would choose that I would go stay in the hotel.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Iould separate myself from my family or anyone that that
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: was at risk to go play the game because you
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: have such a small window in this league. Plus, like
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: you said, it's your job. Yeah, you're doing really that
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: was that was the best comment. My wife just looked
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: at me. She's like, are you crazy? Your job? She
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: just wants to get ready for She's gonna probably say,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: pretend you're playing now, go to the hotel for six
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: months out of here alone. Make no mistake. I used
• 1:46:49
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• 1:46:51
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• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: like start traveling again and like go to work and
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: new stuff and like and she's like NFL seasons and
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I might not travel the NFL because the
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: way they really begins. She's like, what so, yeah, I
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: mean right, I'd be in the middle of like a
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: month on the road, right now, that's true. Your wife's disappointed.
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  Speaker 1: Are you? What are you gonna fest off and tell
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  Speaker 1: thrown in like a prison or something, did you? What
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  Speaker 1: I can't comment on where I am. You're up to
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  Speaker 1: something listening, But but he has a wait staff apparently,
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  Speaker 1: so that he's got that going. Well. I mean, are
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  Speaker 1: you I fake or I could have fake books behind me?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: Like JP doesn't act like they're real. They're real books. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're books he never read. You have not read one
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  Speaker 1: of those books, Bryant. You see what I got here? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're ch You know only three people have ever read
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  Speaker 1: read that book. Look at look at that guy in
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  Speaker 1: and JOHNNYO Selly. You know what's even better is this
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  Speaker 1: you write that? Oh? Yeah, it was written for it
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  Speaker 1: was a kid's book. And then here somewhere you blame
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  Speaker 1: a sack into you, That's true. I never gave the
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  Speaker 1: You better be nice text? Did you sell any of
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: those books either? One? Yeah? Yeah. The problem with the
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: first book, Jackson Richard was by the time it got
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: out the other season over. Yeah, too late. You missed
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: the mark on it a little bit. Hey you need
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: you need an e books. You get out of the
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: book right away? Yeah, didn't, Tony JP hasn't read anything
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: behind them showed real books you're talking about. And here's
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: the other thing, like what are these footballs? Like you've
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: never played in that organized sport in your life and
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: you have like these football This is Alabama. There's some
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: World Football League ball to my left, my left, you're right,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: these are London balls. So this is the Bill's game.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: This is another one. What's the one in the case
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: the old World Football League? An official? That was my
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: grandparents were season ticket olders for the Birmingham teams, the
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: Vulcans and the Americans. They changed they were franchises. Yes,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: so there you go. That's what you did. The World
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: Football leagame seventy seventy, mid seventies probably right, Yeah, something
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: like that. All right, we have plenty of weeks to
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: go through my stuff on the behind me here on
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: the on the set. So so here's the thing. Okay,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: before we go around the league, I expect every week
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: at some point we're in a segment. You have to
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: put one of the books out behind you and give
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: us a book report that you've actually read it. I
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: have an agreement on that. I can do that. I
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: can do that. I can do that. All right, I
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: can do We'll work on that. Let's go around the league.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Let's start in the FC south of the Houston Texans.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: Kidding Still is activated from the non football illness list
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: and undisclosed illness Still and cold the linebacker taking off
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: the p U P. He had a torn a c
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: L during the game against the Colts last year. Are
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: they the favorite? They've won the division for out of
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: the last five years. I don't think so. How do
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: how do they rush the pastor? And they have some
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: issues in the secondary the offensive line. You hope those
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: young guys get better and they lost Hopkins, absolutely not.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: Let's do power Raking. Well, let's get through the rest
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: of the teams before we do the power. The Indianapolis
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: Colts Philip Rivers and c Y Hilton connecting earlier in camp,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: especially today, they caught three of the first four passes
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: from Rivers. Hilton back from a minor hamstring issue, and
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: Rivers was charted unofficially nine of thirteen and eleven on
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: eleven sessions and Pete, I know how much you love
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: that's stupid. Eleven on eleven stats. Yeah, I hate eleven
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: on eleven stats. Guys work on stuff in camp. You
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: can't evaluate that stuff. Numbers are dumb. Didn't somebody used
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: to chart the plays there all the time he works? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: that's dumb. I mean they don't mean anything. You go
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: ask a quarterback what is charting? What you're charting? And
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: they go, what are you talking about? I work on
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: so much stuff in camp. Dumb. But Philip Rivers will
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: have a good year for the Colts. Yeah, he's didna
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: get protected for the first time about correct a decade.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: This is a tough guy. Yeah, blind, I've heard through
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: the rumor men all that the kid Jonathan what's the
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: kid from Wisconsin? They drafted the running back Donthan Taylor.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Looks really good. They'll be good on offense. So we
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: got that. The Tennessee Titans Ryan Tannehill was absent from
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Monday's practice, so I don't know. He wasn't in practice.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: He was at He was absent from their two playoff
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: victories to wow. The other two quarterbacks got increased rests today.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Corey Davis so wide. Reacy made his first appearance today
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: after starting camp on the pup are what's the Titans
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: situation here? They are they sustainable? We've touched on this
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: earlier on seventeen Jaguars. Do you think they're gonna win
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: five games? They'll probably, they'll probably win seven. I actually
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: think I get to define sustainable. And obviously when we
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: say we're not really talking real money. We don't believe
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: in gambling. On the show, it was a figure of
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: speech to be entertainment purposes only. I don't want to
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: get in trouble. Uh, is like, like, tell me what
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: sustainable was. They're gonna be the same thing they've been
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: the last like four years. They're gonna be eight and eight,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: nine and seven, fighting for the wild card and if
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: they get during the playoffs, they can make it run
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: because they're a physical, tough team. Coach by my career,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna be. Huh where they go six
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: and ten and not make the playoffs? You again, you
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: want to like have dinner on the winning more than
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: six year. You said they're gonna be in the playoffs.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: I'll say they won't. No, I did not say that.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: I said, they're gonna be eight and eight nineties seven
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: fighting for a while, Kurt spot like they do every year. Well,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: here's let's just say dinner. I'll take them not being
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You take them being in. Pete difference
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: is therefore not sustainable. If you won't take that, you
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: said six wins, I said, anytime you want to say
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: dinner on sixth win, and it's not sustainable. Okay, well
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: we'll get the defiant sustainable. Are they going to the
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: plaoffs this year? Yeah? I mean they're fit. They're a
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: coin flip. I think they're gonna for dinner. You got
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: them in the playoffs and I got them out day
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: we please translate to him said, I don't know. I
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: got lost in my ears. I don't know the whole thing.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: Let's touch quickly on the Washington football team and quarterback
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: Alex Smith cleared to practice. Ron Rivera said he's gonna
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: be in the mix to be the starter this year,
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: going up against Wayne Haskins. What a story this? Yeah, well,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: I have a question me whatever. And I was watching.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry because Pete will probably notice, but I was
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: watching like him getting like congratulated his family, like Spring
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: Champaign on him or wherever. Yeah, it looked like it
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: looks like he has a drop dragging and he's dragging it.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, but it looks like his drop foot because
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: of the image it did not. That was not a
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: good look. And being cleared for football and being cleared
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: for football are two different things. I can't see him
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: going on a field and running around and taking shots
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: and everything else right now, story your root for him?
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: Good dude. Now, maybe, like Jalen Smith played a year
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: with drop foot, the nerve wasn't all the way back
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: to Kim, but he had a brace on there that
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: you can play with it, and so maybe that's the case. Yeah,
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's something I would want to know.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: But it's regardless. The guy almost lost his leg literally
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: they were they were having discussions in the o R
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: do we cut his leg off or not? And now
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: he's back on the football field of an NFL team.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: I take my hat off to him. Is mean. If
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: you've ever you want to read a story, read the
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: story about what they went through. That was amazing. Good stuff.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: Tony Pete. Hey, we're off and on him. We'll talk
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: to you next week See from Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli.
• 1:59:34
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• 1:59:36
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