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"Some Animals are More Equal than Others" (Friday October 31, 2025, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: For you from Joe Thomas. It's first thing to do
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  Speaker 1: igor the name of Tenator Claghorn. Man, all you are
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  Speaker 1: from the South.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm in New York, I'll ever go into the
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  Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: Plait.
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  Speaker 4: I'll wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I don't need to hucking. Where's your ma'am?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: As I have why this and you might learn something.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll have a little tongue waggon like a blind
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  Speaker 1: dog tail in a meat market.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. The old Senator Cleghorn Claghorn, pardon me? Uh bit
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  Speaker 2: that led to, of course Foghorn Leghorn. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: Senator Claghorn of course had some problems back in the
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: day with the filibuster. Caught a cold last week.
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to ruin my filibuster, ruin your.
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  Speaker 1: What did you do?
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  Speaker 3: I took an.
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  Speaker 2: Old Southern remedy. Some I drag down two buckets to
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  Speaker 2: hunt me in jewlip. You drank two buckets of hot
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  Speaker 2: mint tube. You still held the flower tell the floor,
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  Speaker 2: but I couldn't get.
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  Speaker 5: Up off it.
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  Speaker 2: They go to see you can't if you can't satirize
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  Speaker 2: it for your protection. Were discussing the filibuster will continue
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  Speaker 2: on that. The President saying it's time for the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: to go nuclear and end the filibuster, end it all.
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  Speaker 2: But we need to first peel back some of why
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  Speaker 2: it's there, what has happened to it, And the phrase
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  Speaker 2: parliamentary procedure may come up this morning, but you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: we consider this program ointment for your cloture and we
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  Speaker 2: which we just endeavor to serve. James lunk Is on
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  Speaker 2: with us jcsgold dot com heading into the weekend. Gold
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  Speaker 2: and silver were rallying a little bit yesterday. Let's see
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  Speaker 2: how they're doing this morning. You can call them yourself
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  Speaker 2: after ten Eastern, regardless of what time it is daylight
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  Speaker 2: or standard, and you can call them at four three
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  Speaker 2: four nine coin. Happy Halloween, James, how are you doing
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  Speaker 2: this morning?
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  Speaker 5: Happy Halloween to you too, Joe. Gold and silver are
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  Speaker 5: not very scary today though, which is a good thing
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  Speaker 5: at least personally. Then that they are silvery strong, slightly
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  Speaker 5: below even this morning, but gold is above four thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 5: It's at four thousand and fourteen dollars. It's always a
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  Speaker 5: good day when when gold's above four thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we used to we used to say that when
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  Speaker 2: gold was over three thousand dollars like a month ago.
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  Speaker 5: So I know, I guess, I guess I'm getting a
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  Speaker 5: little greedy or comfortable at gold prices, right.
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  Speaker 2: I like to see amen to that.
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  Speaker 5: Silver.
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  Speaker 1: The same thing.
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  Speaker 5: Silver is just below fifty dollars. It's at forty eight
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  Speaker 5: dollars in eighty five cents. It's out about a tens
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  Speaker 5: of percent so far today, but basically flat so far
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  Speaker 5: this morning. So so both medals are holding strong heading
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  Speaker 5: into the weekend. So we'll see how they performed today well.
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  Speaker 2: And of course you get them all day today. You
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  Speaker 2: can shop all weekend twenty four to seven at jcsgold
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  Speaker 2: dot com. But I really encourage you to talk to
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  Speaker 2: these folks about where you are economically so that you're
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  Speaker 2: not making I don't want to say mistake, but you
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  Speaker 2: don't go into something that you're not quite ready for
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  Speaker 2: or too far further than you're ready for. These are
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  Speaker 2: all the reasons you need to talk to folks who
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  Speaker 2: are expert in the business, not just trying to upsell
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  Speaker 2: you something. I mean, we've seen how many of these
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  Speaker 2: banks get in trouble for, you know, just trying to
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  Speaker 2: pad somebody's expense account. There. That's why family business. You
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  Speaker 2: can talk to them right there at four three four
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  Speaker 2: nine seven nine coin email them through the website jcsgold
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  Speaker 2: dot com. You have an awesome weekend, James.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks you.
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  Speaker 2: So President has said get rid of the philibuster. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's break down when this all started, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll go back to twenty twelve, the one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: thirteenth Congress, good old days, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they still had color in their hair, and they set
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  Speaker 2: up parliamentary procedure to limit bills debate to four hours,
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  Speaker 2: guaranteeing opportunity, and it all sounded good. But what they
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  Speaker 2: did it is opened the door to this unending series
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  Speaker 2: of cloture votes, philipbusters, the mere threat nose counts, keeping
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  Speaker 2: even legislation from being debated. And what they've done is
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  Speaker 2: they've taken the premise that certain important actions should require
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  Speaker 2: sixty votes, and they have made everything since the end
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  Speaker 2: of the First World War, Woodrow Wilson and his accolytes,
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  Speaker 2: anything the Senate votes on has evolved into requiring cloture.
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  Speaker 2: So you need to get to sixty votes. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure at the time the movement was righteous under the
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  Speaker 2: idea that hey, we need to make sure that this
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  Speaker 2: is the will of the people and that kind of thing,
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  Speaker 2: so that you wouldn't have just an out of control
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  Speaker 2: Congress running roughshot. I'm sure that's the sales pitch. It's
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  Speaker 2: the same thing that William Randolph Hurst did when he
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  Speaker 2: convinced the Americans to vote away their states' rights, when
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  Speaker 2: he went on a ten year campaign to get the
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  Speaker 2: American citizens to believe that their senators were not representing
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  Speaker 2: them because they weren't supposed to be. But he knew that.
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  Speaker 2: And the movement was to get the Senate popularly elected,
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  Speaker 2: and now you have these super legislators. But there's a
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  Speaker 2: deeper illness to this, and it is the power of
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  Speaker 2: the political party. And I know in the House of
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  Speaker 2: Representatives committee seats are for sale. Each committee seat has
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  Speaker 2: a price tag on it. And oh, I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to be chair of a big committee, whoo doggie,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have to do some smiling and Dialand
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  Speaker 2: we know this because in the documentary The Swamp, the
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  Speaker 2: one that got Matt Gates and Tommy Massey and Tom
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  Speaker 2: Garrett and all these folks on the outs in Washington.
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  Speaker 2: They blew the whistle. They said, hey, there's a price list.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'll give you the history of it. Newt Gingrid
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  Speaker 2: started it, and for a very good reason. So this
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  Speaker 2: goes into the Eric Hoffer paradigm. So for a very
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  Speaker 2: good reason, the Newt gingreats. In nineteen ninety five, when
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  Speaker 2: the Contract with America Election finally took office in the Congress,
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  Speaker 2: that was the first time the Republican Party had a
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  Speaker 2: majority in the House of Representatives Since before World War Two,
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  Speaker 2: more than fifty years had gone by, the Republican Party
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  Speaker 2: had been a political irrelevancy. Now they'd win a presidency
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  Speaker 2: every now and then, Dwight Eisenhower, even a Dick Nixon,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but they weren't ever going to have a
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  Speaker 2: legislative majority. And there were some years where I mean
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  Speaker 2: they sixty votes. They'd be lucky if they were able
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  Speaker 2: to get you thirty votes. Finally the Republican Party gets
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  Speaker 2: a majority. So Newt Gingrid says, we need to party build.
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  Speaker 2: Is that something you want Congress doing? Is that a
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  Speaker 2: job of Congress to party build for the party and
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  Speaker 2: the majority. He did it. He said, if any of
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  Speaker 2: my members want to have a seat on a committee.
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  Speaker 2: This is what it's going to cost them in contributions
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  Speaker 2: to the party. So popular was the idea. Nancy Pelosi
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  Speaker 2: took it even further. Now, I have no evidence whether
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  Speaker 2: the Senate seats are the same, but given the observational
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  Speaker 2: investigations into how the Senate behaves and the power of
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  Speaker 2: the party, I'm going to have to guess that it
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  Speaker 2: holds the same sway that you have to buy yourself
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  Speaker 2: onto these committees through contributions to the party, which puts
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  Speaker 2: the party ahead of the partisans, ahead of the voters.
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  Speaker 1: You discerned absolutely on a need to know basis, because
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  Speaker 1: you need to know the first thing today.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Halloween to you Friday morning. As we gather about
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  Speaker 2: four three four eight eight two four two one seven,
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  Speaker 2: I want to know how the news of the day
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  Speaker 2: is impacting you where you are one of the great
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  Speaker 2: conservative influencers, if you will, I mean, you got Joe Rogan,
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  Speaker 2: but even Joe Rogan goes and watches Nick Fredis, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the bona fides are there. He's going to join us
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  Speaker 2: in a little while to talk about, you know, what
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  Speaker 2: is going on with the redistricting mania in all these
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  Speaker 2: places California. Now the President has said, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: send election monitors. That what political parties do, but the
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  Speaker 2: Department of Justice is going to send election monitors to
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  Speaker 2: make sure there's no hanky panky going on. And they
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  Speaker 2: were usually there. See that's the parts people don't realize.
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  Speaker 2: There's usually federal election monitors on somebody's speed dial at
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  Speaker 2: every election. But we were unpacking the president's call to
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  Speaker 2: get rid of the filibuster and how we got here
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  Speaker 2: to where we are. So the Democrats in twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 2: dropped the big one to set cloture for all nominations
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  Speaker 2: other than those to the Supreme Court at a simple majority,
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  Speaker 2: because they wanted to get their senators in in twenty
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  Speaker 2: thirteen their nominees because they felt like Republicans were standing
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  Speaker 2: in the way of President Obama's nominations. Then in twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 2: Senate Republicans eliminated the sole exception to twenty thirteen's changes
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  Speaker 2: by invoking the nuclear option to extend the twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 2: president to include Supreme Court nominations. So now even Supreme
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  Speaker 2: Court nominations can be a simple majority. And you see
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  Speaker 2: what's gone on is through the last twenty years two
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  Speaker 2: things have gone on. The parties have become overly powerful.
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  Speaker 2: So you can't outside of a Rand Paul or a
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  Speaker 2: John Fetterman, count on anyone leaving party ranks because they're
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  Speaker 2: going to lose committee seats and those committee seats mean money.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the corruptive force. From where I said, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: do we need to get rid of cloture, do we
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  Speaker 2: need to get rid of the filibuster? Or is it
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  Speaker 2: important to make sure And this is where I come
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  Speaker 2: down on this, because I fear that fifty one to
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  Speaker 2: forty nine tyranny. I've watched it happen too many times.
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  Speaker 2: Where here in Virginia. The very body you know, Nick
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  Speaker 2: is a member of the Virginia General Assembly has a
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  Speaker 2: one seat. Now currently because of a retirement of a resignation,
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  Speaker 2: it's two seats, and the Senate has a one seat majority.
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  Speaker 2: Out of forty senators in Virginia, there are twenty one
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  Speaker 2: Democrats and nineteen Republicans. But if you go and visit
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  Speaker 2: a committee hearing in the Virginia Senate, the committees are
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  Speaker 2: nine to three, eight to four super majorities amongst the
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  Speaker 2: majority party because they in a simple majority vote are
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  Speaker 2: able to change the rules to suit their needs at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, and that's where a lot of the corruption
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  Speaker 2: in America has happened. Right now, we are using these
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  Speaker 2: parliamentary procedural votes on simple majority to change how representative
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  Speaker 2: votes have to be taken, so that your voice is
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  Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, completely diminished, because if you
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  Speaker 2: didn't vote for one of the fifty one percent in
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  Speaker 2: the Senate, you're never going to be heard from again.
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  Speaker 2: And this was what the filibuster policy in the Senate
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  Speaker 2: was designed to do, is to design in certain exigent situations,
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  Speaker 2: say that for this stuff treaties Supreme Court, you needed
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  Speaker 2: to have sixty people, but as the parties grew more powerful,
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  Speaker 2: that became impossible. And so what we need to do
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  Speaker 2: is we need to figure out all those ways that
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  Speaker 2: the parties have extracted themselves into disproportionate power. Take that away,
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  Speaker 2: and then we can start working on resetting the simple
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  Speaker 2: procedural things that may or may not simply pass on
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  Speaker 2: a majority vote or not. But the infection is deeper
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  Speaker 2: than that. And you know this email comes in about
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  Speaker 2: Newt Gingrich in nineteen ninety four. Joe, you just said
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  Speaker 2: that it was understandable that Newton Gingridge did this. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sitting here fuming that there is any way you could
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  Speaker 2: understand such a criminal enterprise. I didn't say it was right,
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  Speaker 2: and it should have been stopped cold hard. But the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats seeing this said, oh, that's interesting. We could party
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  Speaker 2: build off of our committee majorities as well, so they
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  Speaker 2: went along with it, knowing that at some point they'd
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  Speaker 2: get to use it again. It should have been stopped
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  Speaker 2: cold fast into the procedures of the House. But again,
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  Speaker 2: you go back to the House in a simple majority
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  Speaker 2: gets to change the rules. So as soon as the
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  Speaker 2: new House majority is in, you need fifty one percent
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  Speaker 2: of the votes to change all the parliamentary rules which
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  Speaker 2: are designed to make sure that minority voices are heard,
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  Speaker 2: and that kind of thing goes on. So there are
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  Speaker 2: substantive things beyond just getting rid of the filibuster that
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  Speaker 2: we need to be watching about. Good morning, You're on
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  Speaker 2: the air, first thing with Joe Thomas, who's this?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, this is mouse, Go Bob, and I got the
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  Speaker 4: perfect solution to the childish actions of both the Democrats
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  Speaker 4: and Republicans.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, go ahead, all ears, she needs to.
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  Speaker 4: Do what you need to do. Is pass a law
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  Speaker 4: that if after say, four votes, they can't come to
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  Speaker 4: an agreement on something, the top ten senior politicians from
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  Speaker 4: each party lose their position and they have to go
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  Speaker 4: for reelection immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so have another vote. So if the Senate can't
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  Speaker 2: pass a bill, the Speaker and the President pro tem
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  Speaker 2: poor they are. They're not just out of those positions internally,
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  Speaker 2: they're out of the Senate, is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: You got it, because what's going on right now is
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  Speaker 4: the ones that have been there forever and ever are
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  Speaker 4: so ingrained and have so much power from the lobbyists
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  Speaker 4: that they own the government. So let's say, hey, if
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  Speaker 4: the top five people in each party, senior people in
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  Speaker 4: each party can't get a bill to be passed, and
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  Speaker 4: they're obstructing a bill being passed by threatening their underlings,
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  Speaker 4: get rid of them.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's got to be some fear of the
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  Speaker 2: voter involved in this. I agree with you on that
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  Speaker 2: because what's happened, and this goes back to the seventeenth Amendment.
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  Speaker 2: So as soon as we went to popularly electing senators, ironically,
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  Speaker 2: their fear of the voter went away. They became like
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  Speaker 2: super Congress people they panned or like crazy, yet they
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  Speaker 2: don't have to worry about standing up for their re
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  Speaker 2: election supper. And so they've become like these super legislators.
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  Speaker 4: But the voter is being put back into place because
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  Speaker 4: these top five senior senators and representatives of the House
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  Speaker 4: that are lose their position are also barred from being
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  Speaker 4: re elected for twenty years. This way, it gives the
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  Speaker 4: people a chance to put in new blood, new people
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  Speaker 4: that actually represent the African, the White, the Jewish, the
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  Speaker 4: Hispanic communities, get the real people into office actually want
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  Speaker 4: to help the people and not just pocket their bank accounts.
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff, Bob, You have a great afternoon there in Moscow.
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  Speaker 4: Yep ye.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing today on the Talk Media Network by
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, the second most famous Thomas and Charlottesville.
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  Speaker 2: Maga Cota Bill rights contdjuice. What's it? You know they're
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  Speaker 2: going to.
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  Speaker 5: Grind us down until.
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  Speaker 2: Really shut downs and redistricting and all this. You know,
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  Speaker 2: whatever happened to the good old days when we could
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  Speaker 2: just talk about bills on the floor. Nobody does that anymore.
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  Speaker 2: We shut down the government, We we blow up the government,
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  Speaker 2: We redistrict you know, it's we several years ago, somebody
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  Speaker 2: said we're becoming a third world nation, and I really
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: feel like that's where we're teetering at joining us, like
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  Speaker 2: like al Pacino and Godfather three. Just when I thought
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  Speaker 2: I was out, they pulled me back in. He's Nick
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  Speaker 2: fretis uh And I wasn't doing that just to play
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  Speaker 2: on you know, your ethnicities, Nick, welcome back to the program.
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  Speaker 2: Pulled back in for another extra special session, like it
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  Speaker 2: needs to ride the short bus of the General Assembly.
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  Speaker 2: How are you doing through this bonus time in your
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  Speaker 2: General Assembly? Seed?
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  Speaker 3: First, well, I mean again, we shouldn't look it's an
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  Speaker 3: honitor serve in the Virginia House of Delegates. I won't
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  Speaker 3: be serving next year. I didn't anticipate to be back
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  Speaker 3: on the House floor. And quite frankly, I shouldn't have been.
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  Speaker 3: None of us should have been there. This was I
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  Speaker 3: wish I could say it was just a waste of time.
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  Speaker 3: And certainly that was a part of what they wanted
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  Speaker 3: to do. They wanted to waste the time of win
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  Speaker 3: some series. They wanted to waste the time of candidates
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  Speaker 3: that need to be out there actually campaigning. But honestly,
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  Speaker 3: it was worse than that. Because what they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: do is just it's a complete repudiation of what Virginia
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  Speaker 3: voters voted for by sixty five percent margins back in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty. And so yeah, it's frustrating.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to Ken Coochinelli earlier in the week
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  Speaker 2: and he brought that up, and I said, Ken, I
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  Speaker 2: really feel weird. You're being the positive guy and I'm
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  Speaker 2: being the natter. I'm usually the Pollyanna and the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: But if they're going to try to bring the abortion
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  Speaker 2: and the gay rights or the gay marriage constitutional amendments
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  Speaker 2: to the same same election as this, if if they're successful, uh,
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be a marshaled army that's going to
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  Speaker 2: make sourn tear up.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know this, The possibility of all three of these
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  Speaker 2: constitutional amendments on a on a special election in springtime
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  Speaker 2: scares me.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that would be four, I mean before constitutional amendments,
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  Speaker 3: because it would be abortion up till birth, it would
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  Speaker 3: be completely rewriting the marriage laws and the Constitution. And
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  Speaker 3: then it would also be automatic restoration of rights for
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  Speaker 3: convicted felons.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, so let's so let's do let's do a
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  Speaker 3: quick thing on what they wanted to add to that.
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  Speaker 3: What they wanted to add to ensuring that people convicted
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  Speaker 3: of child rape could you know, vote again as soon
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  Speaker 3: as they get out of jail. Is they also wanted
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  Speaker 3: to now bring back partisan redistricting. And again, look, regardless
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  Speaker 3: of how you feel about what's going on all over
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  Speaker 3: the country right now, Virginians said, we don't want to
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  Speaker 3: do it this way. We want to do it this way.
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  Speaker 3: We want to have a bipartisan commission because we don't
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  Speaker 3: like the idea of this being a constant battle. And
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  Speaker 3: so that's how Virginians voted overwhelmingly. Right, Like, trying to
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  Speaker 3: get sixty five percent of Virginians to agree on anything,
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  Speaker 3: it is nearly impossible because we're a proud and independently mind,
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  Speaker 3: independent minded people. Sure, but this was the overwhelming consensus.
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  Speaker 3: This went through the entire process, and now they're just
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  Speaker 3: trying to change it last minute. And again, what's so
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  Speaker 3: frustrating about this is if they wanted to do this,
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  Speaker 3: they could have They could have gone through the normal process.
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  Speaker 2: They could have instant they could have you know.
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  Speaker 3: Introduced a resolution, a joint resolution in the last session.
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  Speaker 3: It would have gone through the committee process, it would
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  Speaker 3: have gone through, it would have gone everything it needed
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  Speaker 3: to in the normal order of things, where people are
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  Speaker 3: watching for it, they're coming down, they're testifying, they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: All this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But no, they did it the last minute, in the
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  Speaker 3: midst of an ongoing general election, which is certainly we
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  Speaker 3: think is illegal. They did it in such a way
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  Speaker 3: to where none of the clerks are able to actually
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  Speaker 3: comply with the requirements of a constitutional resolution, and informing
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  Speaker 3: the public of it, which again we think is totally illegal,
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  Speaker 3: and all of it to do what to bring back
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  Speaker 3: partisan jeremndering.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they want to do. Can I ask you,
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  Speaker 2: let's ask let's do a thought exercise real quick. Joey's
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  Speaker 2: I think this would be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: So they did all of this because they want to
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  Speaker 3: redraw the liance. Now I want you to imagine something.
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  Speaker 3: I want you to imagine that everybody watching this goes,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, we didn't sign up for this. This
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  Speaker 3: isn't what we wanted. We told you, this isn't what
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  Speaker 3: we wanted, and yet you're trying to do it anyways,
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  Speaker 3: And then they show up to the polls between now
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  Speaker 3: and next Tuesday and Republicans take back the House. Here's
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  Speaker 3: my question. Do you think Dems would still want this
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  Speaker 3: constitutional amendment to go through?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think so. Well, how many of them?
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  Speaker 2: Oh No, I don't think Joe, I don't think they would.
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  Speaker 3: I think if all of a sudden Republicans took back
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  Speaker 3: the House, what you would find is all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden Democrats would not be so confident in allowing for
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  Speaker 3: partisan redistricting.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And this is one of the.
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  Speaker 3: And so this is why I say this is absurd.
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  Speaker 3: It's incredibly arrogant to take a look at what the
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  Speaker 3: people Virginia voted on, not not thirty years, not fifty,
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  Speaker 3: or not one hundred five years ago. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: the general sentiment has changed that much. And if they
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  Speaker 3: really wanted to do it, they could have gone through
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  Speaker 3: the normal order and process.
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  Speaker 2: They chose not to.
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  Speaker 3: I am so tired of hearning about no King's protests
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  Speaker 3: from people that didn't get in power and operate like authoritarians.
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  Speaker 2: on all of this in the Mania, whether it's Pritzker
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  Speaker 2: for taking some time out and talking about all of this,
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  Speaker 2: and especially here in the state that invented the country.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at the impact of Jefferson
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  Speaker 2: and Madison and we're talking about the filibuster and its
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  Speaker 2: rules and the rules of procedure just being ignored by
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  Speaker 2: the partisans. This is where I think both Democrat and
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  Speaker 2: Republican alike have grown weary of it because they're just
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  Speaker 2: it seems like, I don't like the rules. The rules
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  Speaker 2: don't let me do whatever I want, As you said,
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  Speaker 2: act as an authoritarian, and so it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: let me do that, So gosh darn that I need
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  Speaker 2: to change the rules. And that's where I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Virginians as well as Texans and Illinoisans, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at Pennsylvanians, these folks are tired of this idea of oh,
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  Speaker 2: now we're an authority, so we're going to just change
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