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The Hook: Episode 37 | Is Fish good or gross? · Arguing Ever After

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Hello and welcome to Arguing Ever After.
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I am Luke and this is my wife, Amber.
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Hello. Together we're the Lord and Lady
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who lock horns. The counting Countess of
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contention. The Duke and Duchess of
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Disagreement. And the King and queen of
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Sounds good. So we're on episode 37.
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Yep, 37. At some point, we're gonna stop
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counting, I promise. Are we?
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I think so. But why?
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Well, it's, I don't know, they'll get old.
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Why? Why would it get old?
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I I don't know. It's just a number.
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It's. Just a number I don't know.
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We'll see. It's all new.
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It's our very first 37th episode.
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It is our very first and it's also our very 37th episode.
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That's right. We used to say that and we don't
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say it, Sir. Don't we type it still?
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No, no. Oh, I did that last time.
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I did well, though I don't want the people to know how much I
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don't do now. We're not going to say any more
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about that. You did quite a bit recently.
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That's true. I had a lot of extra time on my
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hands. Right, right.
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Which is hard. We don't in general have extra
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time, so. That's true.
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You know, I'm glad that we've carved out this little slice of
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heaven here to argue with each other.
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Slice of heaven? Well, I mean, I think we argue
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anyhow no matter what. That's true, But maybe it's
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helpful to have this dedicated time for arguing.
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I think it is what were we arguing about right before
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today? I don't remember right before
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Ted as in yesterday. No, no, like like 30 minutes
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ago. I don't remember.
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I don't remember. It was probably really
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unimportant. I'm sure because neither of us
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remember. No, but it was happening it.
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Was probably about the cat or the dog or something and and
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whether or not they should be joining us and.
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Well, they've joined us. The whole flock is here.
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They're here, but you probably won't see them so.
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Hopefully and hopefully Maura, hopefully they stay quiet.
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Yeah, that's what I would like. That's what I would like.
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There's been a lot of sound stuff going on outside, so I
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don't know, it's been really loud in our house, but I'm
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hoping that they're not They're not.
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Yesterday you and our daughter were singing and our dog.
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So loudly. So loudly and it.
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Was great. And our dog decided that he
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needed to be squeaking his toy with you.
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He was a backup singer. He was, and he was all about it.
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And he went the whole round. We were, we went for 10, maybe
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15 minutes of singing and the whole time just squeak, squeak,
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squeak, squeak. It was amazing and you were
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attempting to have a phone call at the time.
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I was and I think no, I did have a phone.
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Call was whoever was on the other end, a background
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recipient of our magic. I don't know that they really
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paid attention, but I think most people I talked to realize that
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I don't know. There's nothing quiet about this
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household. That you live a noisy life, Our
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very noisy life. That could be like a book title.
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Oh, there you go. It might be already, who knows,
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but I what? If we wrote a book, what would
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we call it? Apparently it would be called
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our very noisy life according to.
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That was just a quick idea. Maybe it would be called arguing
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Ever After. That'd be a pretty good title
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it. Would be a great title, yeah.
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I feel like someone would try to steal it though.
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Speaking of arguing ever after, just a little shout out to us
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cuz this episode is gonna air on March 24th.
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Yeah. In the year 2026, OK.
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And I'm not going to do the math to, you know, shock our
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listeners because they'll probably think, well, they're
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not old enough, I know, to have that long of an anniversary.
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I've actually had a couple of people this week say, wait,
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what? Anyway, March 24th is our
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anniversary for when we first started dating many, many years
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ago. Back in high school.
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So this is our anniversary edition coming out, showing you
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how we get down. I don't feel like, I don't know.
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I feel like once you get married, that's the actual
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commitment it. Is so it is.
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We thought about that for a few years.
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We have and finally. Because I just want to celebrate
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everything. I just have so much work, so
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much work. I really just want more presents
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that's. I know that's what you want.
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That's the truth. Yeah, I'm.
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Not I love a present. You do.
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That is very, very true and known about you.
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I think everybody knows that about you do.
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You think so? Does that make me a problem?
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I mean, does it make you? Oh.
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I don't know. Everybody knows that Luke also
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makes a big deal about things. He has a birthday month, you
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know, like. Being born is a big deal.
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It happens to everyone who is alive on the planet right now.
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So I don't know. I mean, I'm sure, yeah.
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I'm glad you were born, but you know there is that.
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Not to transition too early, but Speaking of my birthday.
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Oh my word. In July, folks.
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In July we are. In March, we're here.
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Almost. There, let's hear, let's and
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usually sometimes. Nope, I'm backing up.
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I was. I was gonna segue.
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I'm discarding the segue. OK, so.
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We'll let a new one come around. I feel like though, at some
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point, usually right about now is when you start saying hey,
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these are things I would like for my birthday.
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I literally just sent you something you did like
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yesterday. I sent you a link to a thing
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that I thought hey maybe. I won't lie, that wasn't the
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first thing that you sent to me either about Hey, Intent.
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I would like this. Yeah.
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So. A listener or viewer.
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If you're wondering what my pained expression was a second
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ago, our cat just decided to jump up on a like a wall feature
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in our in our lower level and she's currently eating the money
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tree. Well.
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She there will be no money for us, but she rich.
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She is rich. She is rich when we've talked
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about how our cat is not athletic.
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So this is a very interesting, you know.
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And she decided to ascend an entire like that's might not be
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4-4 or five feet. No, no, no, she jumped.
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It's a lot for her, she. She did a a.
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Double. Well, right, but I meant that
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she decided to go vertical that far.
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I mean, I am a little afraid because she's not very skilled
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that she might knock something over and this is probably.
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So unathletic. This is.
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Just the clunkiest. Yeah, back to our podcast.
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Sorry, it's just a great little diversion.
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We should have maybe had some video for the of the cat.
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Just they would, they would not find it interesting because
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they'd be like, oh, that's. A cat doing cat stuff.
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But it's not our cat doing cat. Our cat is more of a dog than a
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cat. Yep, Yep.
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So. Well, do you?
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I got another segue. Do you want to know what our cat
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had for breakfast this morning? I'm gonna guess cat food.
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She did, but. Wow.
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It was that fancy canned stuff. Yeah.
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And it was tuna. Yeah, that stuff stinks, but.
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Does she? Likes.
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True. Yeah, she's very spoiled.
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Part of that is our fault and part of it is our child's fault.
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I don't really think it matters, but yeah, well, good for her.
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I'm sure she enjoyed her. She did.
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Her meal? It was it was great.
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You know what else enjoys tuna? This guy right here.
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Yeah, Yep, I do. But you're kind of persnickety
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about the tuna. I don't ever see like a tuna
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fish sandwich or anything like that.
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I mean, I would really. Yeah, I've never seen you do
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that. I mean, I don't at home.
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OK. Do you when you're out?
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For the most part, I feel like I actually did have a tuna fish
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sandwich like from Jimmy John's or, or fill in the blank really
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in the last I want to say in the last six months.
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That's shocking. I think in the 800 years we've
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been together, I have. Seen it is about that long.
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Tuna fish like as a sandwich 0 times.
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It was one of those things where somebody that I work with
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suggested that it was perhaps the world's best tuna fish
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sandwich and I just ought to have it.
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I don't remember. So I said OK, and then I thought
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to myself, that's a lot like a tuna fish sandwich.
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This tuna fish sandwich I'm eating right now.
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Wasn't the world's best. I mean, I don't know that I
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would ever go on a quest to find the best tuna fish sandwich.
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I just don't see people ordering them that often.
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But sandwich places? I wonder if it's still a staple
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in the homes of many. The old chicken of the sea.
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Yeah, yeah. Hey, listeners, comment.
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Do you still eat tuna fish sandwiches at home?
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And what was the brand *? Starfish, wasn't it?
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Star kissed. No star kissed with AK.
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That's right. Yep.
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Was that also Chicken of the Sea?
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Cuz it wasn't the one that said Chicken of the Sea, Yes.
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Is that a different brand? Nope, I think it's the same
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brand, but it reminded me of Jessica Simpson and when she
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learned that tuna was a fish and not chicken.
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Jessica Simpson, the famous person.
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Yes, on her reality TV show with her then husband.
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She had a reality show. Yeah, good.
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Yeah. I don't remember what it was
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called, but just actually pretty recently.
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She was married to the sing singing boot buddy.
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What's it, 998°? There it is.
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Nope. I don't know.
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**NSYNC doesn't matter one of those two.
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But it recently actually did come across my Facebook feed of,
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you know, like just laughing that she didn't know that tuna
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fish was. How do you not know it's a fish?
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I don't know. It doesn't taste like chicken.
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I just literally don't. Know if it did, we could trick
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you into eating it. No, you couldn't.
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You couldn't. Well, because it doesn't.
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You would say this isn't chicken.
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Right, right. It's.
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Very much not. No, it's not.
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Chicken. I all like chicken.
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No, my family tried to, I don't know, lie to me about food
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frequently enough and I was not I they did it for a little bit
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on one thing, but man, I'll tell you on fish wasn't happening,
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wasn't happening. Talking about the old red corn.
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Old red corn. Yes, yes, you know, I'm going to
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say we should just be honest with our children about what
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they're eating, or they might develop complexes of not
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trusting their parents of what they're feeding them.
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What I don't understand is why does anyone want beets?
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I really don't get it. They don't taste.
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It tastes like actual dirt. Well, you know what canned beets
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taste like. Canned dirt.
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Salty. I don't know, I apparently it
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tasted. Salty.
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Maybe there was a high sodium content.
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It must have been pre salted beets.
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No, it was a high sodium. I mean, it tastes like all
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canned vegetables. You know how they have that
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flavor of the juice? Canned flavor.
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Maybe, but no, I don't. I mean like there's some sort
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of. Preservative.
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Preservative. Canned flavor.
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Anyhow, it tasted like that but Nope, I won't touch it.
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I have a massive resentment against beets so.
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I generally have a thing against canned vegetables.
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Really. OK, OK.
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Cuz they all taste like not OK. They have a flavor they do.
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They taste kind of like school lunch.
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Yep, I have a thing against school lunch because I'm an
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adult. But you know.
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What all those you gave me some Italian.
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Dunkers, I know I was gonna say. That's it though, the one like
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one thing from school is Italian dunkers.
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Those were so good. They were, and I wonder if they
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had them everywhere in the US or if it was a specific to
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Minnesota thing. Or a Midwest thing?
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Yeah. Oh, they were so.
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Good. All right.
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Any of you coastal or southern listeners that we have, any of
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you maybe even international, did you guys have a version of
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garlic cheese bread that was in your school lunch?
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That was amazing. I mean I think it's calling it
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garlic cheese bread is just so slight of what it was.
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I know it's. Italian dunkers.
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If you've had Italian dunkers, that's.
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They were so good. Top notch.
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Another tier item and I I think lunch ladies and lunch gentlemen
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everywhere. Yeah, for for bringing.
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Those exclusive. Yes, for bringing those into our
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lives like once every three weeks.
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Aren't they now called something like a food service technician
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or? Something they have something I
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mean, and that's. Fine, like a janitor is now a
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maintenance technician. I don't I all jobs have levelled
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up in their titling. Yeah, well, I think when I was
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in school they weren't janitors, they were custodians.
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OK, I feel like that's fair. Yep.
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Yep, but I don't know. But there was always the lunch
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lady that reminds. Me Did we ever have fish in
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school lunch? I don't think so, I don't
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remember. Probably not, because the whole
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school would have smelled like fish.
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Yeah. Fish stink.
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Did we have fish like fried? Like fish sandwiches?
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Like fish filet? A mcfish filet.
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I just thought of that fish on the wall filet of bring me that
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filet of fish. What was that thing called the
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Billy Bob Fish? No the Billy Bass.
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Billy Bass, There it is, and there was one in your house.
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We had a a Billy Bass, I believe.
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Yep, Yep. So that's a, you know, call back
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to when you would buy things off of the TV.
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As seen on TV was the whole thing.
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Billy the big mouth bass. I bet you that store doesn't
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exist in the Mall of America anymore.
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I have no idea. Yeah, there's still stuff you.
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Can seen on TVI. Feel like there's still stuff on
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TV you can buy? I'm sure there is.
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I bet QVC is still a channel. Oh, I'm sure.
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And I still feel like there's somebody who's selling rare
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coins online at about 3:00 in the morning.
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Sure. And they're, you know what?
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They're that special accidental mint print.
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Yeah. That's got the little
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imperfection on the Statue of Liberty.
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That there's only 100 million for sales, Yeah, you've got to
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be careful and you can only buy 20.
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And you better take make your chance now.
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Yeah, yeah, it'll be. Before they run out.
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That's right, Edition. You know what I saw?
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I'm not even making this up, OK, on late, late night cable TV as
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we're going to bed and falling asleep.
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And I think it was, I think Star Trek was on.
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And when Star Trek's on late at night, they're advertising to,
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well, probably me, yes, But I didn't want to buy this.
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I just want to be. Clear.
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But many of the commercials I'm like, this is clearly an ad for
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middle-aged men. Yes.
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Anyway, so they advertised regular old pennies because
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they've been cancelled. Oh yes, and like this is the
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final run only whatever and the sleeve of pennies which are
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worth. $0.50 if there's 50 and there are 25.
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But they were like double the price of.
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So it was like you could buy whatever the 10 rolls of pennies
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for $10. And I was like, wait, what?
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Yeah, that's a great. Deal.
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So what does somebody actually think that and who knows if this
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is gonna happen in, I don't know, some long enough amount of
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time, 100 years, let's say cuz like you know, the ones they all
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care about now are like the oh, this is a rare circulation.
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Yeah, out of print 100 year old. But the Buffalo head nickel,
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that's one of them for sure. Yep.
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So like is a penny just gonna be that hard to find in 100 years
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that haven't a perfect one? Someone's gonna be like, you
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have a 2026 perfect condition penny sleeve.
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I'll give you 1000 bucks. I hope not.
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I mean, I hope not either, but I guess you know, if it's maybe
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it's a thing. You know what, I guess, I guess
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if that makes somebody. I just wasn't ready for somebody
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to be selling pennies that like double the cost.
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Right. Right now.
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You mean double the value because the cost of those
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pennies is more than even 2. Yeah, it's better, but I it was.
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Yeah, I don't know. Couldn't believe it.
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Well, see, Hold. I guess that's that's just I
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mean, if you have pennies, hold on to them.
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I. Remember, pass them down to your
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children, people. I'm sure they'll love it.
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They'll. Be worth 1.2 cents I don't know,
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but not to the bank. It'll only be worth 1.
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Cent. They'll go, Well, this is worth
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a cent. Yes.
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Yeah. And we can only give you a
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rounded down amount. Yeah, right.
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There will be no rounding up. Right, right.
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So I don't know. Well that is what that is.
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I don't. I remember you used to like
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throw pennies away and it would make me mad.
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Oh, me personally. Yes.
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You personally, Yeah. And I'd be like, why are you
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just throwing money away? And you're like, I don't need
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it, It's just a penny. And I am cheap enough that it
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was like upsetting to me. And then we got a Piggy Bank.
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Oh yeah, Yep. Problem solved.
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Haven't thrown one away in years and years and years.
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Fountains. I mean like the cost of a wish
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is going to go up. Big time.
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We're getting to the $0.05. Territory.
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Minimum Wow, unless you got some of those rare little coppers
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rolling around in your pocket. Yeah, yeah, there's still,
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there's still some discount wishes out there.
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You know what's not in a wishing well?
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No. In the water, no fish.
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Yeah. It's not.
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That's my third segue of the night.
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I just want to point out I'm on a roll, right?
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You can't even take it. What I think is so funny is you
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can't stick it. I've been crushing it.
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I don't know what you're talking about, Listener.
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Don't don't let her take handle me like this.
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Clearly clear. I'm being.
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He's clearly professional. I'm being repressed.
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In his Segways, I'm letting you know, it's like, you know, I am
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fishing, I'm throwing, you know, I'm letting you cast the net and
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then you just let it go. No, no, I was doing great.
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OK, well keep talking. This is a test for you.
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Well, you've thrown off my whole rhythm.
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Oh, I'm sorry. So back to the not in wishing
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wells. Yeah, where there's no fish.
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Where there's no fish. It's such a great segue.
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Do you know where there are fish?
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Where? Not yet though, in our pond.
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Oh. A little goldfish.
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Let's not talk about that. I always feel weird about that.
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This is blueberry Donuts. I can't.
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Our fish I feel bad for. You.
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Well, you don't put blueberry doughnuts in the pond, dear.
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I don't, I don't, I don't, you're right, I don't.
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But I feel bad for the little fish in our pond so.
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OK. You'll have to clean that pond
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out soon. I'm not prepared.
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Yeah, I might not be able to in time depending on how things go.
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Did you ever have fish as a kid did?
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I have fish as a kid. Like a little pet fish.
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There's a chance, but I don't actually think so.
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I feel like you'd remember. Well, but so I had two brothers
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and there's a chance it might have been like their pet.
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Right, my point is OK. I don't you think so did.
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Luke. Have I'm gonna go with no.
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OK, I had fish. OK, I had little beta fish.
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OK. I had a male and a female.
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OK. Did they make baby beta fishes?
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They didn't, and I was, I mean, I guess I kind of thought that
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they would, but I feel like the female killed the male.
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Uh oh, so that. Is intense.
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And I don't know how familiar you've.
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Cut Did she eat them? Animals a lot.
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No, I think she just killed them just dead.
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Just killed them dead. Dang, but the little females are
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not as beautiful as the male beta fish.
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Of course they're not, and you just point out that males are
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almost, in many species, the more beautiful I.
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Have something about beta fish in a second.
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But anyhow, so I had kind of this ugly little female fish and
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the little sucker catfish thing that cleans out sucker fish.
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Yeah. So you know what had been like
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this beautiful beta fish, you know, because they are gorgeous,
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you know, that's why I really wanted it.
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And I had birds. Too.
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I'm talking about my fish. Yep, I was just.
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In my tank when I was a kid. Yep, I was talking about males
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being more beautiful. Remember really latching onto
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that. To that fish thing, yeah, OK.
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Well so you had this dead fish, What are you saying it just the
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suckerfish ate it or what? No, I would.
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No. You throw out a dead fish.
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That's good. In your tank.
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I'm glad you did that. That's good.
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In the tank. It'd be weird.
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This is Did we have fish in college?
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I'm gonna air quotes. College.
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We did. For the listener, don't think
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we're educated. Because we're not.
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Not at all. We briefly attended a higher
21:47
education for a very short time briefly.
21:51
Well, but no, we did actually, and I don't know if you
21:54
remember, but our cat ate the fish.
21:57
Yeah, we had a killer of a cat. Yeah, she killed everything you
22:01
bought. Everything you did, you have it.
22:04
Butterflies did. Was that it?
22:05
Yep, killed. Them well, I hatched no, I OK,
22:08
so did. You have those little.
22:11
I hatched caterpillars which then went into cocoons and then
22:16
turned into butterflies and that's when she killed them.
22:19
Wow. All that work they were going to
22:21
get let free, be beautiful monarchs out in the world.
22:26
And she just killed them. She just ate them.
22:28
She apparently wasn't interested when they were caterpillars.
22:31
Didn't you have what are they called the little shrimps?
22:34
I've definitely, definitely. Sea monkeys, that's what it did.
22:37
You have them and then she ate those.
22:39
Too. No, no, I definitely.
22:41
She tried to eat the dog. She tried to eat a dog.
22:44
Yep. Yep.
22:45
Did she try to eat the rabbit? I don't remember, maybe, but she
22:50
didn't. My rabbit was crazy though.
22:52
We named it Tweak. So this is the problem.
22:56
What's the problem? Now we have to somehow segue
22:59
back to fish cuz you've gone all the way to other animals.
23:06
I like animals. So, but I was saying, OK, so I
23:10
said put a pin in the beta fish. OK.
23:13
Because when we got married, yeah, three years ago we got
23:18
married. It was 23 years ago.
23:20
We got married on a boat. On a boat.
23:23
And the centerpieces for our boat were vases that had calla
23:30
lilies and a little bit of fish swimming around.
23:32
Yep, an ode to your childhood and to your your people.
23:37
My people, my dad, because my dad is My dad was a avid
23:42
fisherman. I don't think it was about.
23:43
That I was talking about the calla lilies, but.
23:46
Calla lilies. Why?
23:47
Wasn't that like somebody's favorite flower or something?
23:49
No, it's the beta fish can live off of Calla.
23:52
Lily. I mean, I knew that.
23:55
You know, when you do a lot of wedding planning and like you're
23:58
in all of that which you no, there's a lot of details that
24:03
maybe one person thinks about that you.
24:05
Know I just like that you went so cuckoo on that because I.
24:09
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just showed up.
24:13
Themes are hard for you. That's true.
24:16
That's why we've had a hard time staying.
24:18
Multiple topics. Hard time staying on fish?
24:21
Do you know what was in the river?
24:22
In, in in where we got married in the boat.
24:26
Fish. Hey old, is that my 4th or fifth
24:30
one? I don't know, I don't.
24:32
I'm feeling strong. I think 5th, I think 5th feeling
24:34
strong. Every once in a while, you know,
24:38
it's, it's definitely Luke's turn to like, really hold the
24:42
podcast together. And I'm doing it today.
24:45
You're doing it today. Man, do you know what I'd do
24:52
with almost all those fish except the little tiny ones that
24:55
would be inedible? I would eat them.
24:57
Yeah, that's disgusting. Tuna in and I'm in.
25:01
I love a sushi. Yeah.
25:04
Or a nice tuna steak. No sushi grade.
25:07
Raw in the middle, crusted on the outside.
25:09
Delicious. Would you like just catch?
25:12
It river fish. I'll eat some of that.
25:14
Would you like catch a fish and just eat it?
25:18
Absolutely. What do you mean?
25:19
Like without cooking it. No, you can't do that.
25:24
I don't think you can do that here.
25:25
You can't do that with sushi. What do you mean what are we,
25:29
Gollum and Lord of the Rings? Right now we're just eating fish
25:31
in our mouth. Sushi's not cooked.
25:34
I know, but you have to prepare it correctly.
25:36
Which is what? What?
25:38
Cut it. Yes, scale it, bone it, cut it,
25:42
but then there's like certain, I don't know cuz I'm not a sushi
25:45
chef. Why are you challenging me right
25:47
now? I just don't.
25:49
There's that one listen, there's that one kind of sushi, yes
25:52
that's like famous in Japan or whatever.
25:54
And like if the sushi master does it wrong, you die.
25:57
I remember this from The Simpsons.
25:59
And it's a true story. But I.
26:02
So I'm pretty sure with sushi you can't just like, I don't
26:04
think the idea is just eat raw fish.
26:07
I think it's like there's specific parts of the fish and
26:10
you got to like have it maybe at certain cuts and temperatures
26:13
and. For for that one fish you're
26:16
talking about like they go to like some sort of training.
26:19
And when I say go to, I'm sure now they probably do it online,
26:22
but like you have to be certified in serving that type
26:25
of fish and disposal of the poison.
26:29
I mean, there's a part of me that wants to try it, but
26:31
there's that other part of me that's like, what if they did it
26:33
wrong? They aren't gonna.
26:34
They aren't gonna. I mean, sure.
26:36
I mean, well, that'll shut down a business, won't it?
26:39
Precisely. That's that's the thing.
26:41
And I mean, I feel like it's probably not very cheap.
26:44
And isn't it just like puffer fish?
26:46
I don't actually know. We went scuba diving one time.
26:50
We did. And our scuba instructor named
26:54
Jorge. He was so great.
26:56
He was wonderful. He also briefly was our tour
27:00
guide and our friend in Mexico. Yes, he was wonderful, but he
27:05
went he was he kind of looked like he belonged in the water.
27:09
Yes, he had like a fish like shape which sounds.
27:13
What is a? Fish like shape but.
27:17
He didn't have gills. He didn't have gills, but he
27:20
looked very like he could float well, you know, very round, like
27:26
a fish. I wouldn't say round.
27:28
I would. Rotund.
27:30
OK, OK, but like, you know, like like fish are kind of bloated or
27:35
whatever it is, you know, but he had very skinny legs and all of.
27:38
That that's true, he did. So he, but he was, I think he
27:41
was kind of made for the water. Anyhow, we were scuba diving and
27:44
he had taken us and I don't know if there's anyone else with us
27:47
at that point, but we were out in the reef and he's like one
27:51
second threw his snorkel up off his face and then came back and
27:56
he had a little puffer fish in his.
27:57
Hand in his hand. Yeah, yeah.
27:59
Not puffed out. No, but it did puff out.
28:02
It did. It did.
28:02
Later he let it go and it went boop.
28:04
Yeah, yeah. So I don't know.
28:06
I don't know how you catch a fish by hand.
28:08
I I would not advise anyone to try to catch a puffer fish.
28:11
Well, he seemed fine with it. They.
28:13
Get puffy and spiky for a reason.
28:15
Well, yeah, but I mean, he figured it out.
28:17
But he was a scuba master. He also might have been part
28:20
fish. This is what I've said, right?
28:22
He looks like it. Which is really.
28:23
Interesting. Maybe, he said.
28:24
Hey fish brother, yes, I just need you for a second.
28:27
Maybe he was the real Aquaman, the real Aquaman.
28:32
I don't know anything about Aquaman, but.
28:34
Maybe. But I think maybe he could have
28:36
been, he was, he was pretty. How do you catch it?
28:39
I don't know. So, and that's something we've
28:42
never done when we've been ocean vacationing is we've never gone
28:46
ocean fishing. I thought you were gonna say we
28:48
never met Aquaman. Well, we did.
28:51
His name was Jorge and he was just cool.
28:54
OK, that was him. Yep.
28:59
I missed my chance to recognize the truth.
29:01
I know you know, well, I think that was pre fame.
29:05
Maybe. Yeah, sure.
29:07
He did not look like Jason Momoa.
29:11
I mean. Who played Aquaman recently?
29:13
Yeah, yeah, I would. I would agree he was not very
29:16
adjacent. But you know what?
29:18
Who I oddly have found out you find detestable.
29:22
He's not. I don't know, whatever.
29:24
So many ladies are into him. It's not.
29:28
I don't know. You don't want to talk about it.
29:30
I'm. Because he's gross.
29:32
There are people who I'm sure he's a very fine human being.
29:35
I don't know. I I hope so.
29:38
Yeah, I I hope so too. Yeah, I hope so too.
29:40
I guess I really probably also haven't seen.
29:42
He listens or not listens. Does he listen to us?
29:45
Cuz I he's my favorite. Oh my God.
29:47
Jason Momoa. Biggest fan ever, I love him.
29:55
I was listening to a podcast that I listened to that I like
29:59
quite a bit and he was a guest for what was the name of that
30:04
show. It was a really good show about
30:07
like the ancient Hawaiian tribes and like the war between the
30:13
tribes. This is like pre colonialism.
30:16
And it was really, really good. Actually.
30:18
That was interesting. But he basically said he likes
30:21
acting 'cause, you know, he's good at it and he makes a lot of
30:25
money, but his goal in life really is to smoke a bunch of
30:27
pot and play video games. And I was like, oh, that's so
30:32
depressing. Like, you know, you're like
30:35
super famous, super rich, good looking, and your goal in life
30:38
is to just play video games and smoke you.
30:41
Do nothing. Your goal in life.
30:42
Well, you know, I mean not. Very inspiring, I'll say.
30:45
That as you can see, I I picked the winners right like.
30:49
There it is. Huh.
30:50
Yeah. You're.
30:52
Not married to some POD head. No, no gameplay.
30:56
But again, who also happens to be a multi millionaire.
30:59
And apparently. And Aquaman.
31:00
And apparently listens to our podcast.
31:03
Maybe he's our number one biggest fan.
31:05
He could be. He could be.
31:06
He might be. Well, Amber, I have a question
31:13
for you. Oh, and now, ladies and
31:18
gentlefish, the moment you've all been waiting for.
31:21
That was cute. I know sometimes I am.
31:24
In this corner we have Luke, who is, oh, sporting his red and
31:29
black and white hat, representing a certain high
31:33
school we might have gone to in the Saint Paul area.
31:37
And we're the only ones who ever had those colors.
31:39
So, you know, whatever. Yeah, super.
31:41
Rare color combo. Super.
31:42
Super rare coming in hot today. Off a losing streak.
31:48
Yes, yes, we're still stuck. We're stuck at the ties, which
31:53
I'm OK with, you know, 8 ties. Luke's won 11.
32:00
Yep. And you've lost 16.
32:02
But I'm going to tell you I can see the future.
32:05
And this next one coming up, you're really, you're ahead.
32:08
I think I should have won Star Wars.
32:10
That's just messed up. I think it's hilarious that you
32:13
did. It's just it's I've been
32:14
betrayed by the world and by not enough listeners voting.
32:19
I mean, or I did actually by chance happen to pick the better
32:25
movie. Anyways.
32:27
Yeah, so that's what we got, Luke.
32:29
And in this corner corner, claiming to weigh in at 135 lbs,
32:34
we have the ever darling, ever delicious and not so fishy Amber
32:40
not. So fishy.
32:43
OK. So the question is, I haven't
32:49
even. I'm gonna just wing it.
32:50
Oh goodness, this. Is.
32:52
Fish is fish, or is it good fish?
32:57
Our. Fish is and our fish good to
33:00
eat. OK, like.
33:04
Is that simple enough? It's super simple.
33:06
Do you need to modify it at all? No.
33:08
No, I mean, I feel like you're asking like good in flavor, not
33:14
necessarily like good in health or anything like that, Right.
33:17
Like, yeah, right. OK.
33:19
Should you eat fish? Yes, yes, our fish.
33:24
Or I wish you would eat fish. This is a very is it our fish or
33:28
is fish? Well, fish are plural.
33:31
But they're also singular. I feel like the question is, is
33:36
fish good to eat, good tasting to eat, good to put in your
33:42
mouth and consume OK for deliciousness?
33:45
Well this is super simple to me. Wait, just fish.
33:50
Any and all things from water I'd fit in.
33:54
OK, well, so fish. Seafood.
33:57
Sure, seafood and fish. And lake food.
34:02
Trying to find out if you're angling right now.
34:05
I am of course, but. Why are you trying?
34:09
Is there something you would eat out of water at all?
34:13
No, I don't think you would eat anything from a lake or an ocean
34:16
or a river. I maybe would eat a sea beam.
34:18
What's that like a vegetation? Yeah, yeah.
34:21
No, no, we're talking about. I understand.
34:23
Creatures. Something that lived.
34:25
Yeah, with like, eyeballs. Yeah, yeah.
34:28
And like body parts. Yeah, I really Shrimp.
34:32
No fish. No, no, no.
34:34
OK, OK. Swordfish.
34:36
So we're gonna start off with. Whatever else you can eat.
34:39
Crab. Lobster.
34:40
No, no, no, no. I have baby.
34:42
Craw Crawfish. This is what?
34:44
From the South. This is why I'm asking because
34:47
fish are in different category from all those others to me.
34:51
What do you mean? Like I have different reasons
34:53
for both, but the answer to me is no, fish are disgusting and
35:01
they should not be eaten. I really don't like fish at all.
35:06
I don't like the smell of fish and I if I don't like the smell
35:09
of something, I'm certainly not going to eat it.
35:12
Like do you smell fish and think that smells good?
35:16
Just curious. I'm curious if I have a
35:18
different. Yeah, you do.
35:21
Yeah, I think cooking fish smells good, that.
35:23
Smells good to you. Interesting.
35:26
OK, well. Now hold on.
35:29
That being said, I think it lingers a little too long.
35:34
Like bacon. I weirdly I really like bacon
35:38
but I do not like that for like a full 24 hours.
35:41
Your house. You cook 2 strips of bacon and
35:44
your house is like cool, I'm going to smell like bacon and
35:47
all your clothes are going to smell like bacon for a full day.
35:50
I just remembered another little.
35:52
Fish doesn't last that long. But another little.
35:53
But yeah, I like the smell of cooking fish.
35:55
I have cooked fish and I liked it.
35:58
No. OK, so I remembered another
36:01
little antidote anecdote. I'm like struggling.
36:06
The words are hard. We've talked about this.
36:08
We had to start. Stuck in your nose?
36:10
75 times today, but. There's a few reboots.
36:15
But we have another little fish thing that maybe we'll share
36:18
another time, remembering something dating back to maybe
36:23
the 1999 and something that happened with us in Fish and oh.
36:32
That's a good story. Yeah, yeah, it's.
36:35
Not maybe advisable though. Because I think it's well past
36:38
the statute of limited. Well, I don't think it was
36:40
technically a crime. It wasn't.
36:43
Well, a couple of them might have been.
36:44
There was more. There was a multi pronged
36:46
attack. No, it wasn't.
36:48
It wasn't, and it's. If you wanna, if you wanna share
36:51
it, you could share it. It's up to you.
36:53
It's passed the statute of limitations.
36:55
There's no problems there. Like it's not really a crime,
36:58
but but maybe we'll save it because now people are like,
37:01
wait, what? Happened.
37:02
I know there's what's going on. So we'll save that.
37:06
Just put that out there fun for another time.
37:09
But anyhow, no fish is disgusting.
37:12
We could have a episode about that topic.
37:16
OK, Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna scribble that
37:20
down. Somewhere.
37:21
Because going forward. Everybody was like, what are
37:24
they talking? About I know that I mean the
37:25
cliffhanger. Situation is, I'm loving it.
37:28
I'm loving it. So wait, back to the fact that
37:31
you don't like the idea of a nice shore lunch or a fresh
37:33
catch. No.
37:35
Or oh God in heaven, just get me.
37:39
I want right now. We already had dinner today.
37:42
I wanna leave the house and go get some fish and chips.
37:45
You could do that. I would.
37:47
I probably couldn't actually. It's 930.
37:49
Most places are probably not. I'm sure there's some late fish
37:53
and chips. Maybe the place right by the
37:55
house. I didn't even know there was a
37:57
place right by the house anyhow. So no, I don't like fish at all.
38:01
I don't like to eat it. I don't like to smell it.
38:03
I really don't. I don't want it cooking in my
38:06
house. That's just facts.
38:08
I think we've never had fish cooked in any of the places
38:11
we've lived. I mean, I've said you could do
38:13
it if I was gone several days, but I just I don't like fish.
38:18
I think I like, I like fish in the water.
38:23
OK, That's where they belong. I but like when they come out of
38:28
the water there's I don't. Know when you eat them.
38:31
I don't eat them, no. I grew up with a person, my
38:35
father, who fished and he never, I don't think ever ate the fish
38:38
that he caught. But I it was catch and release
38:42
type of a thing. I remember fishing with a friend
38:45
once and they, like a lots of people did, were using worms.
38:49
And I'm thinking you're using worms to catch your fish.
38:53
Therefore, you're eating something that's eating worms,
38:58
or willing to eat worms, which means you know then are you not
39:04
essentially just eating worms? That's not how that works.
39:07
So, but no, this is where my I'm stuck in why I would like at
39:11
that point I was like, I'm never giving it another chance.
39:14
I didn't like it when I was a kid.
39:15
Like those Gordon fish sticks. Did that only happen in the
39:18
world of fish with you or is this just justifications?
39:22
Well, things you eat that eat other things, don't you?
39:24
Like, Like, do you think that like, what the chicken eats is
39:30
somehow inherently also what you're eating?
39:33
So that's a good question and we can come back to chicken again.
39:36
We did talk. About or pork or.
39:41
Beef or with eating grass if I had to eat grass.
39:45
They all eat grass, huh? You know what?
39:47
Let me live in my palace. OK, Delusion.
39:51
Live in your palace of Delusion. I love it, but that's.
39:55
A good name. Palace of Delusion.
39:56
That's another book title look at.
39:58
We're all right writing it down. Palace of Delusion.
40:00
Get ready people. OK, it's coming, coming too much
40:03
in there bookshelves. Near you in the next 5 to 50
40:06
years. Give or take or not of delusion
40:09
anyhow, so. But I think they're disgusting.
40:12
I would never want to eat one. I also like felt really bad
40:16
watching the fish and this might be part of it too, watching the
40:20
fish like struggle to breathe. You know, I read a book once
40:23
called Saving Fish from Drowning and it was a very interesting.
40:27
Saving fish from drowning. Drowning, yes.
40:30
Oh, because out of water, that's probably like what happens.
40:32
Yes, in reverse, yes to so, but it ends at fish for you again,
40:38
back to the OK, let's pork chicken.
40:42
Nope. No.
40:42
Remember. No.
40:43
We don't wanna. No, OK.
40:45
So fish, no, I don't like there's, there's nothing I like
40:50
about them. Now, if we're going into seafood
40:52
and I don't know, maybe we wanna save that, but we don't need to.
40:55
Essentially, seafood is like the insects of the sea.
41:00
Let's just keep it to fish comma any water type fish of the sea,
41:06
which would include shark or swordfish or.
41:09
So not. Sailfish or tuna?
41:11
Okay. Then it doesn't.
41:12
Really. Cuz you wanna make that like the
41:13
shrimp or bugs and crabs or bottom feeders.
41:16
And that's all true. But so.
41:20
The question is. We could have another debate as
41:22
to whether sea bugs are worthy of eating, and I would make the
41:26
same contention hell to the yes. OK, well, we'll go back to the
41:30
fish. And I don't even know how long
41:32
we've been at me discussing fish, but but my answer is I
41:39
don't like fish. There's nothing.
41:41
I don't want to eat it if if it was eat fish OK and thankfully
41:47
don't live in a world where it's eat fish or nothing.
41:49
I was gonna say or die. We would.
41:51
Like I probably would eat fish or I mean, I don't know.
41:57
I really truly don't know what I would I guess.
42:00
So not certain whether you would choose death or fish at this.
42:03
Point I mean. Stuck on a desert island,
42:08
nothing to eat except potentially fish, and you're
42:11
like. Well, I mean, here's the thing.
42:12
I could just die I. Probably, but that's my point.
42:15
Like the reality is on that deserted island, I'm not going
42:18
to know how to catch a fish, OK? I'm probably going to die anyhow
42:22
O. Hardest part is always the hook.
42:25
And what am I gonna do? I mean, maybe I would try, but
42:27
I'd probably go crazy out there trying to figure out how to
42:30
catch a fish and then never catch it.
42:32
And so then I've lowered. My standard, that's what.
42:36
I would. I would die of sunburn.
42:38
I don't know, like I think, well, no, I know I would die of
42:41
something really dumb like a urinary tract infection.
42:44
I would not die of sunburn. I wouldn't die of like I ate the
42:48
wrong fish that was poisonous. I wouldn't die of like drowning
42:52
out there trying to catch a fish.
42:54
It would just be really something very lame and they
42:58
would just be like, Nope, it was exposure.
43:00
They would give me the I feel like, I feel like that's what
43:03
they would do. They're like, OK, we're going to
43:05
throw this lady a bone and not let people know how pathetic it
43:08
is of what she died of just literally not being able to
43:11
handle living out in the wild. You know, so, but no, I, I just
43:17
don't like fish. They're disgusting.
43:19
They don't taste good. There's so many other delicious
43:21
things to eat. I will say no.
43:23
Great. I'm ready for you to be done.
43:25
OK, thanks for that. Now I just want to talk about a
43:28
lot of deliciousness about fish, because there's so much
43:32
deliciousness and there's so many kinds of fish.
43:35
Like growing up going fishing with my brothers and my dad and
43:39
my grandpa catching fish out of the lake.
43:42
We had a lot of all kinds of we had all kinds of different fish.
43:45
I remember liking bass I think the most.
43:49
I like trout. We catch trout and crappies and
43:52
sunnies. We had northern one time and I
43:55
don't know if you're supposed to eat that, but I didn't think it
43:57
was as good. Love me some walleye.
44:00
That's a thing all over where we are here in Minnesota.
44:03
Walleye's delicious and like, I like a fish grilled.
44:08
I like it fried. I like it.
44:10
I mean, you could do almost anything to a fish and I'm
44:13
probably going to eat it. It's delicious.
44:17
There's So if you could bake a fish, I'm going to eat the fish.
44:20
I like fish from the ocean. I like mahi mahi.
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I like red snapper. That's some delicious swordfish
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is amazing. There's oh, there's like an
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almost endless amount of fish and I have I think yet to meet a
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fish I didn't want to eat. Now I hear there's some that
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smell really bad Monkfish is that one that's supposed to
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smell really bad. I.
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Don't. You've seen a lot of cooking
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shows. It's ugly fish.
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Anyway, like all the fish that I've had, I like the fish and I
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like it in all the ways. I like fish and chips.
44:56
We talked about that earlier. I like tuna, I like sushi.
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Like fish is good. And not only does it taste good
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almost all the time, 'cause you could put in like you could make
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it savory, you could make it spicy, you could make it acidic,
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you could, there's just so much you could Irby man, I want some
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fish right now. Also, fish is super good for
45:22
you. Uh, uh.
45:23
Hey. Oh, we're not going into
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nutrition? Nope.
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Was that a rule? No, here's the problem, I said
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when we were asking, you said is fish good?
45:33
And I said, are we asking is it good to eat?
45:36
Or that's not the argument, but I was just pointing out the
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truth. I mean, OK, that'd.
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Be like, if I said I don't want to eat beef and you said beef's
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good for you, well, you'd been right.
45:46
I didn't disagree with that. You were very upset.
45:49
I mean, it's still the truth. And I mean, really, for me it's
45:53
just a simple argument. It's there's a reason.
45:56
It's like the food of life. Everything eats fish that can, I
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mean, like camels can't because they're in the middle of a
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desert. But bears eat fish.
46:06
You've seen all them cool shows where they've been catching
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salmon in the river and birds eat fish and I mean, what
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doesn't eat fish? I know that has access to it.
46:16
I don't you well, and probably I'm guessing some some many
46:19
other humans, but it seems to be rather popular and has been for
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a long time. Jesus, he gave people fish and
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bread. I learned that from you because
46:32
I don't know a lot about Christianity anyway, so fish is
46:37
what's up. Also right now I I just said
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Jesus, it's Lent and there's fish fries all over the place.
46:43
It is all over. Everyone in Minnesota is getting
46:46
down on some fish fry. Yeah.
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Yeah. They just built Friday with AY.
46:49
It's Friday. Yeah.
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Yeah. Cuz fish fry day.
46:53
Also, I like a fish fry just that's all you get what kind of
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fish you want, fish or fish. Yeah.
46:59
Good, I'm in. Let's do it.
47:02
Nope. Oh, I love fish.
47:04
The best fish I ever had was for our anniversary.
47:06
Did we talk about this earlier? No, that was one of the things
47:09
you could have segwayed with. Oh, it was so good.
47:13
OK people, every once in a while, I'm sure there's other
47:16
people out there who have had all the kinds of fish who like a
47:18
fish if you ever get the chance. There was a special menu item
47:23
one time at a fancy restaurant. We went out for our anniversary.
47:25
It was fancy. We dressed up.
47:28
This is probably 15 years ago and they had on their specials
47:32
menu halibut cheap now for y'all.
47:35
I don't know. A halibut is a gigantic fish.
47:39
They're in the North Atlantic. They're like, I don't know,
47:41
they're probably 13 feet long or some.
47:43
They're massive fish. So a cheek of the fish is an
47:47
actually reasonable size of meat. 13 feet.
47:52
Long halibuts are huge. This cannot be true.
47:54
I feel like I've seen a halibut in a chef's hands before.
47:58
Thinking of a mackerel. No, they're big fat round the
48:02
round, aren't they? Well, maybe.
48:05
Maybe we're both wrong. They're real big.
48:07
I'm. Going to sticking with big.
48:08
They're big. I remember so big old fish yes
48:11
hence that such that their cheek is a viable piece of meat.
48:17
Mm hmm because it's a big piece of meat and it was a Parmesan
48:22
crusted pan fried halibut cheek and it was so good.
48:28
There's like been a couple things I've had in my life that
48:30
are so memorably delicious. I I couldn't believe it.
48:34
That was one of them. OK.
48:37
And man, other ones that top the list, apricot crusted pork filet
48:42
that I had that one time at that place that's closed now in
48:45
Uptown. And there's been some steaks
48:47
that have blown my mind and some BBQ that's blown my mind.
48:50
And but man, when it came to fish, that one did me in.
48:54
And then there was that one time we had tuna when we got lost in
48:56
Costa Rica. Remember that we drove up the
48:59
coast. We were lost all the time in
49:01
Costa Rica. Well, we got lost on the coast
49:04
and we drove up north and it was getting dark and then there was
49:06
this restaurant and they didn't speak English and we sat down
49:09
and I had a tune, which is tuna and you had probably pollo
49:15
because chicken. Wasn't good.
49:18
Food the chicken well the fish was delicious.
49:19
Of course it was we were and man, Mexico, the all red snapper
49:24
and I can't I could I'm I'm like seriously having some desires
49:29
right now to eat fish. I'm gonna rest my case.
49:32
I feel like the people are gonna know and decide based on their
49:35
own loves and choices. But do.
49:37
You like fish or not, that's the vote.
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That's it. That's the vote.
49:41
Is fish a good food or not? Are fish a good?
49:44
Food it are is the are the fish. Are.
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Fish good, good foods. Yeah, yeah.
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Take a vote anyway. So how would they do that?
49:54
Well, they could do it right on the Spotify pool, which I
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apologize for not having it up perfectly the last time that was
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Operator Air. But thank you to my sister who
50:04
was like, hey, trying to get out there.
50:06
We appreciate those comments when we mess.
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Up and I just want your sister to know hey you could vote for
50:12
me every once in awhile I know you like fish you better vote
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for me but. I don't know.
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I don't know if that sister hasn't.
50:19
So all right, Well, thank you so much.
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You vote on Spotify comment share.
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I don't know what else should they do follow.
50:28
Follow like download rate, tell your friends yeah and.
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That's what we got. Thanks for listening y'all, see
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you next time.