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L51 Live with Roger Williams from Squatchin' Holler · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Everybody's me Tom from the Igerbera podcast. And this
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  Speaker 1: week we had old Roger Williams who has that has
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful podcast called squatch It Holler, excuse me my
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  Speaker 1: voice cracked a little bit of to stry again Squatch
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  Speaker 1: and Holler. And he's a cool cat, great guy, very sweet,
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  Speaker 1: sweet sweet person. We kind of go through all of
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  Speaker 1: his experiences since his childhood, whether it be a UFO
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  Speaker 1: or the time he won hunting and seeing one climb
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  Speaker 1: up a hill that that he couldn't believe how fast
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  Speaker 1: it went from the bottom to the top, where it
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  Speaker 1: would take like a normal man a couple of minutes
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  Speaker 1: or you know, two or three minutes, sisting did it
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  Speaker 1: in like fifteen seconds. He kind of went through some
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  Speaker 1: of his father's experiences and it's quite fascinating these things
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  Speaker 1: and I hope you enjoyed this one. Coming up with
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  Speaker 1: the with the wonderful, the powerful Roger Williams from Squatching Holler.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the I Jubiter podcast. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Franklin, and today we have one one of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest human beings you every want to be, This very
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  Speaker 1: sweet guy and when you when you talk to him,
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  Speaker 1: you feel like you've known him all your life and
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  Speaker 1: he's He's definitely had that effect on me as well.
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  Speaker 1: Roger Williams from the Squatch and Uh Holler is on
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  Speaker 1: with us today and.
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  Speaker 2: We're just gonna have you know, we're gonna introduce you
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  Speaker 2: guys him. If you don't already know who he is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna throw some linked up for you.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna give Roger a lot of love. I really
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  Speaker 2: enjoy what he's doing over there on his channel as
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  Speaker 2: well as his research that he gets into. Uh. He
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  Speaker 2: knows a lot of a lot of cool stuff and everything.
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  Speaker 2: He's just he's a lot of fun to talk to.
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  Speaker 2: So I just I couldn't think of anybody else to
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  Speaker 2: have on the channel better than Roger for this specific Friday.
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  Speaker 2: So if you find yourself comes back to Channa, please
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  Speaker 2: do me favorite. I can subscribe to it You can
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  Speaker 2: also find me on Rumble and anywhere you download your podcast.
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  Speaker 2: You can also get some merchandise. All those links and
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  Speaker 2: as well as Rogers, are in the description below. So
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  Speaker 2: with all the homework done, please let's welcome to the
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  Speaker 2: Ietubter podcast. Roger Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, buddy, Hey, I want to meet this guy
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll send you. I'll send you his information. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on the show. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad to I appreciate it. We talked so much
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  Speaker 3: bigfoot and stuff. It's nice to talk about some other
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  Speaker 3: things because it you know, all of us have had
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  Speaker 3: some get that gathered together with these shows have had
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  Speaker 3: weird stuff happen, so it's not just one thing. And
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  Speaker 3: and if I feel like if we talk about them,
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  Speaker 3: we may find a connection somewhere. You know why why
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  Speaker 3: that all happened to us?
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  Speaker 2: So, hey, you got yourself a subscriber, so Denise already subscribed.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We appreciate that. We go. That's
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  Speaker 2: that right there. The whole hour for ree is already awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm going to have a good time no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, And and like I tell people, I
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  Speaker 3: have no ego. If you get in there and watch
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  Speaker 3: a couple of shows and you don't like it, it's
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  Speaker 3: not gonna hurt my famis We're not you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: we we we take the subject seriously, but we don't
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  Speaker 3: take ourselves seriously.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's important. It's important. I think you know
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  Speaker 2: this is you know, there's certain entities and certain people
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  Speaker 2: in this field that you know can be a certain way. Hi, Tim,
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  Speaker 2: Tim is not one of them. Tim is awesome. Hello, Tim,
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  Speaker 2: didn't be to pull you upt the same time I
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  Speaker 2: say that to have like some that head of remark
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  Speaker 2: no him, researchers guys, And yeah, it's kind of you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you're doing this and you're trying to create a name,
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  Speaker 2: you know, have a name for yourself. But as well
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  Speaker 2: as people like if they're interested in the subject and
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  Speaker 2: someone who's had the experiences that you've had and do
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  Speaker 2: the research that you have, you know you're gonna still
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  Speaker 2: find people who are just gonna be upset with you
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  Speaker 2: because you can't make everyone happy. So I I understand that. Dude.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, hello, mister Greg, I don't know her woodwalkers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, him and Misty and Spencer do woodwalkers. And heck,
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  Speaker 3: I probably talked to him for four hours on the
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  Speaker 3: phone today and I don't know what. Y'all don't listen anything,
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  Speaker 3: he says.
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  Speaker 2: So Roger, Roger, please do your favorite like introduce yourself
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, tell people a little bit about yourself
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  Speaker 2: and where they can find the things that you do.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, Roger Williams. I grew up enrolled southern
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  Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee, close to the Alabama line, and just I
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  Speaker 3: grew up thinking weird stuff happened to everybody. I guess
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  Speaker 3: because you know, early on we lived in a haunted house.
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  Speaker 3: I was so young I didn't know really what that was,
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  Speaker 3: but I know the grown ups were freaking out a little.
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  Speaker 4: Bit, and I know I had some experiences and then
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  Speaker 4: I saw the Bigfoot and later and then you know,
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  Speaker 4: then here comes the UFO and all of this is
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  Speaker 4: not like, oh, oh, I think I just saw UFO.
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  Speaker 3: It was definitive, like that definitely was a UFO. And
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  Speaker 3: same way with some of these paranormal experiences. And like
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  Speaker 3: Greg says, sometimes if I told you all the stuff
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  Speaker 3: that might have been something, we could sit here for days.
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  Speaker 3: But I tell this stuff that I'm like, I laid
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  Speaker 3: my eyes on it, my mind, I was awake, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and and I know for sure, you know deja vu.
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  Speaker 3: I had small bits of day j'avou growing up. And
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  Speaker 3: so I went on a podcast to talk about Bigfoot, uh,
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  Speaker 3: just a couple of years ago, and it made me
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  Speaker 3: feel so good to do that and get that off
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  Speaker 3: of me. I had questions the guy. This guy said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you're on the co host and I'm like, sure, well,
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  Speaker 3: I had tons of questions and as a co host
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  Speaker 3: you kind of, you know, limited in what questions you
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  Speaker 3: can add. So uh, some people talked me into doing
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  Speaker 3: it on my own and we liked h on Squatch
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  Speaker 3: and holler on YouTube. I'm on TikTok. I got fun
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  Speaker 3: on TikTok. That's you know. But Chinese hain't come got
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  Speaker 3: me yet, but they might. They know where I'm at.
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  Speaker 3: But well, Temo, I told I told Greg guys like,
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  Speaker 3: you know what order this tactical stuff off a team move.
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  Speaker 3: They know where their storage is, you know, they they
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  Speaker 3: know to come to Rogers house. They ever invade and
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  Speaker 3: they grab some stuff. So anyway, but now so we
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  Speaker 3: we do mostly Bigfoot. We let we we tell our
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  Speaker 3: stories and we let people tell their stories. Is the
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  Speaker 3: is the main thing. And but every now and then
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  Speaker 3: we'll throw in something a show like Tom does. Uh
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  Speaker 3: it could be it could be some ghost, or it
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  Speaker 3: could be UFOs in commind or ah, just whatever. And
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  Speaker 3: and I've got a new co host, Amanda, and she
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  Speaker 3: works at the Bigfoot Museum in North Georgia and her
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  Speaker 3: and her friend are big into all this. So I
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  Speaker 3: thought maybe once a month we'd offer a weird show,
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  Speaker 3: so to speak. If big for it's some weird enough.
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  Speaker 3: But where's what we find?
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  Speaker 2: Tom?
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  Speaker 3: And you know this better than I do do your show?
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  Speaker 3: I mean you know is you can go into big
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  Speaker 3: Foot one hundred scent flesh and blood and thinking like
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  Speaker 3: I did, and as you dig into it and dig
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  Speaker 3: into it and dig into it, start finding all of
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  Speaker 3: these different similarities of other things and these connections, and
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  Speaker 3: the people come in and you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people in the chat, you know, I know, for his
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  Speaker 3: friend contacted me, I don't know a year and a
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  Speaker 3: half ago when I was on the other show and
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  Speaker 3: asked me to look at some pictures. And actually that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of how it started where people are asking for help,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and so just we try to entertain while
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  Speaker 3: helping out too. So you know how many laughing is
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  Speaker 3: very important for health. I think it's mental health overall health.
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  Speaker 3: And so we do some shows sometimes with Greg and
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  Speaker 3: Misty and Misty's listening. But Greg, we do a it's
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  Speaker 3: off of the wood Walkers umbrella under the Woodwalkers called
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  Speaker 3: night Owls, and it's it's late night, it's you have
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  Speaker 3: language mornings and we just tell stories from our past
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  Speaker 3: and and just like being on the back porch drinking
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  Speaker 3: tea or or beer or whatever. You know. But that's
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  Speaker 3: that's where.
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  Speaker 2: Fire and like uh you know, just chewing chewing the
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  Speaker 2: rag with your buddies. Yeah, dude, that's like one of
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  Speaker 2: the best parts of being an outdoorsman. And you know
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  Speaker 2: mostly mostly, I mean you have to be outdoors for
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  Speaker 2: the most part. I have heard of, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: being the people's backyards and stuff too.
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  Speaker 3: Oh about the big Foot?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, out to Tim Gray yards some wife or
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  Speaker 2: an age she was thinking, yeah, he actually broke down
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  Speaker 2: the face.
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  Speaker 3: Uh Greg. Yeah, my buddy Greg here lives butted up
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  Speaker 3: to the Bankhead National Forests in Alabama. Oh wow, I
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  Speaker 3: found I found my son and found tracks. We found
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  Speaker 3: hairs on the door. Uh they've been on top of
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  Speaker 3: his man cave and there. Yeah, we've He's had a
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  Speaker 3: lot of researchers come down. We don't do calling, we
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  Speaker 3: don't agitate them and then leave them there with them.
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  Speaker 3: But there he has to share his hunting place, his
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  Speaker 3: hunting spots, and his home or his home away from
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  Speaker 3: home with these things. So uh yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeahs Darren Franks, he wanted he was also hunting. I
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  Speaker 2: think in the nineties, I believe late the mid eighties.
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  Speaker 2: I think the nineties actually in bank Head and ran
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  Speaker 2: and uh ran across like a gray one, like completely.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I think he's trying to muster up the ability,
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  Speaker 2: you know, through telling his story because he you know
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  Speaker 2: there you know, the Daryl Denton contacted me and say, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: this guy is the story he wants to put out.
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  Speaker 2: Please get in contact with him. I was like, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: let's go. And ever since then, man, me and him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he got me in contact with like just
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  Speaker 2: the con the concept connecting with M. K. Davis because
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  Speaker 2: he's such a good friend, like not a good friend,
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  Speaker 2: but he really respects and enjoy MK's work, and he
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  Speaker 2: was like, you need to have him on it. And
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  Speaker 2: then just because of that and that, like so bank
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  Speaker 2: at Forest and helping people. It's kind of what you do,
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  Speaker 2: you know, people just getting on the show and speaking
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  Speaker 2: their mind, you know, telling what they saw.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, help them and you can have and see you
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  Speaker 3: people that are in chat. I know we've got people
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  Speaker 3: watching that never comment. So I'm gonna I'm gonna talk
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  Speaker 3: to you all for a second. We We've had friends
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  Speaker 3: that have been lurkers and then they then they finally
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  Speaker 3: get an account, you know, they get where they can chat,
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  Speaker 3: and then they'll come on Woodwalkers. And one guy we know,
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  Speaker 3: flat Rock, down in South Alabama, is in the same
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  Speaker 3: situation Greg's in. And the evidence that he's shown us,
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  Speaker 3: he'll show us the video, he'll send audio and he's
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  Speaker 3: really he's really comfortable in his own skin. If I
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  Speaker 3: say flat Rock, I don't not sure about that one. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: he don't get upset because he's trying to figure this out.
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  Speaker 3: But heck, he ended up being on stage talking at
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  Speaker 3: speaking at a conference in Alabama. Uh right, you know
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  Speaker 3: to go on to lead and and and me and
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  Speaker 3: Gregor talk will tell the same story to each other.
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  Speaker 3: But it's it's it's a little bit and no, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not a little bit hy is therapy. It's it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, uh, you relive in it without me having
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  Speaker 3: the stress of it.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, but yeah, I think I think
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  Speaker 2: it's too. It's kind of like, uh, it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like the you know, the AA for people who have like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, right across these things in a way. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, my name is John and this is my story,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, and then I started to you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then the next person, then one person says, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because of it and talking to people, I started researching
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  Speaker 2: and the other guys like I did too, and what
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  Speaker 2: are you finding? What am I finding? And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: without any help from the quote unquote scientific community, we've
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  Speaker 2: actually found out a great deal about these things. But
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  Speaker 2: the more it seems we find out about them, the
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  Speaker 2: less in formed we seem to be. Actually in many cases.
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  Speaker 3: Well you know, you can the reason it's important to
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  Speaker 3: talk to Joe down the street about this. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he might not have a degree in anything, but he
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  Speaker 3: might have seen something you never thought of as far
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  Speaker 3: as evidence wise to tell you something about the anatomy
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  Speaker 3: of this thing. And I've heard things that was told
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  Speaker 3: that made things make sense that I've seen, like, well,
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  Speaker 3: how did they do that? Well, then all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden you hear a little tidbit from somebody and well,
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  Speaker 3: you know what if that's if that's the case, that
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  Speaker 3: would make this other thing possible. So it's just sharing
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  Speaker 3: those puzzle pieces to put it all together. And then
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  Speaker 3: then people start telling these wild stories that I thought
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  Speaker 3: was wild at first. And as they're telling them, I
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  Speaker 3: start thinking, wait a minute, that that happened to me,
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  Speaker 3: but what and it took I was more. It was
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  Speaker 3: easier for me to tell my big Foot story and
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  Speaker 3: stories later that happened later in life. It happened now
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  Speaker 3: than it was for me to talk about the ghost
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  Speaker 3: stuff at first. And and so you know, I saw
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  Speaker 3: the Chapel Hill light. I told you as a eighteen
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  Speaker 3: years old. We've been there a couple of times. It's
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  Speaker 3: a legend. If some of y'all got ink pens pencils
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  Speaker 3: close by right down the the Chapel Hill Light in
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  Speaker 3: Chapel Hill, Tennessee. You know, read that legend and it's
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  Speaker 3: full if you read the legend, it's full of somebody
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  Speaker 3: that was writing that probably hasn't seen it, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I was scared to go. The first time we
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  Speaker 3: didn't see anything. And the second time, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: it loved no doubt. I've got a description that when
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  Speaker 3: I see a YouTube video pop up every now and then,
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  Speaker 3: I always saw the Chapel Hill light and I'll look
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  Speaker 3: at it and I'm like, no, you didn't, that's not it,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: So it's, uh, it's quite amazing. Like I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it is about this particular channel. I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 2: connecting with one person connects me to other people in
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  Speaker 2: that area. But I don't know what it is about Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's uh, it has a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I mean if you just between the Bell Witch, the
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  Speaker 2: Chocolatehill lights, and then everything that's happening over in the
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  Speaker 2: Smoky Mountains with the four on one and then.
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  Speaker 3: Place so think about this. Well, we wonder about it too,
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's what we get into like because uh,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: with Greg and flat Rocking, all those guys and gals
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: down and down in Alabama, they have certain things going on,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and up here we have of course the big the
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: bigfoot in certain uh areas that are more fit for
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: that type of being or whatever. But as far as
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: the weirdness, we've all talked about the lay lines.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: The yeah you forgot that ten.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: See is one the I saw this the other day
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: and whether it's true or not, it said Tennessee has
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: the most caves, is it than any other state? Now,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Kentucky probably probably has some of the longest caves. But
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: we're all sitting on this big, big ball of limestone.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: So you know, it's perfect for caves. And you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: my wife's family's property. Their crevice is so deep. If
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: you went walking by yourself and fell off in one,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: they might not ever find you. So, yeah, it's at
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the old river bottom, right, there's there's a there's a
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: pretty good sized river, but back in the day the
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: rivers were bigger and wider, covered more area, and top
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: sails almost non existent. But so you have you you
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: have maybe entrances to things, maybe maybe the granite of
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the the we find the what is it the things
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: that you break open it has the crystal you know
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: inside or whatever.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, garnuts I think they're called.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: So and we find out that these crystals and stuff
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: are using computers the store to store information, you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: like the crystal skulls. You listen to those, And so
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: we've got these rocks just laying around everywhere in the
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: creeks and that have all this material in there. It's
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the same thing. So now I sound crazy. I know
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I sound crazy, but we're trying to make connections. And
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: what makes me mad, Tom, you might agree with us.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I believe we all as a people, as a people
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: of the whole planet, knew all this before, and they
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: it's been hidden so many times. We have to keep
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: relearning and stuff. We have to keep literally digging it
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: back up.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a perfectly stateweed. I'm running this new section
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: of the channel that I call Updates and Reports, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: it's about that that news. It's not ground penetrating radar.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: It's something similar, but it didn't be from a satellite
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: because of course, you know, in each of the area
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't let you go over and do any type of
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: scientific research. You have to pretend that you're a you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: like you know, I'm just a tourist and you're you're
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: in there around the corner, you grab your measuring tape,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: start measuring some walk or something. Yeah, but they found
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: this incredible. It's incredible like structure that goes like like
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: twice the size of the Eiffel Tower, and then underneath
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: them was two football field like box and then there's
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: these caverns that go within like they go for like
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: two miles to Klama. I can't remember exactly, and it's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: just so insane, and you know, it kind of just
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: it's gonna they're gonna have to I don't know if
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Egypt as of yet and made a statement uh by
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: lightning it. We'll get to that. Uh. It's just uh,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: it's just one of those like you're saying, like we're relearning,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: like uh, I think Graham Halfcock, Graham Hadcock says we
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: are a species with amnesia, and I think that's really interesting.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: So Tom I never told many people did, but the
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: big the hop talked to a thing. Uh that the
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: girl that went.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: We're gonna know how this connection is gonna go. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: know you're some heavy lifting right now, but I'm not.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna enjoy the next minute.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: So that girl is from here and she is ken
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: to my son and daughter, and she her family is
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: just like that. You know, uh, just just funny, funny
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: all the time, being goofy and that just the time.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: And when that hit or whatever, my son texted me
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and said, Hey, Haley was in National Gut interview. Now
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: it's going crazy. Well, but you're talking about dam nesia
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: part so you know, she got she didn't get in
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: trouble because she didn't know what was going on. They
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: created a mean coin and they broke pulled and cheated
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: a bunch of people by the money. But what they did, Uh,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: she laid load for three months and now she's back,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: so that we we have short memories. And as politicians
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: do the same thing, actors and actresses do the same thing. Uh,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: they can stay out of the public eye for a while,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: and sports people that mess up and then we forget.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: There's so much going on. Mm hm. But there's so much.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: We're so inundated with the headlines that they make us forget.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh dude, they put you on this treadmill
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: and you they put you on it and you know
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: what happened. Okay, for example, the stuff that was happening
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: over Jersey and the rest of the United States, as
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: far as I know, that's still going on as far
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: as I know, this is still happening. But yeah, what
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: we saw one.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Tom we were grabbing down in the middle of all
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: that here in Louisbourg, Tennessee, and I saw something over
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Louisbourg and I thought that plane's flying awful load and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: it was massive and I and so we went towards it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: And as we get to the west side of town,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I can see it. I'm like, oh my god, that
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: looks like a car flying. It came almost over the
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: top of us. We got a good look at it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: It was just very few feet off the ground. It
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: was big as my challenger. It was about the same size,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: and it had it had lights at the corners protrude
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: out where I assume maybe the fans were. I couldn't
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: see them. It was it was just right before pitch dark.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: But it was headed towards the local airport, of the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: smaller airport, and it was not an airplane. I was
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: under the belly of it looking up. It was the
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: biggest drawne. Now I did get on the internet and start,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: of course after that, trying to find something that looks similar.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: And they do sell they're expensive, they do sell those
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: things to the public. But I don't. I don't know
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: how rich you'd have to be the habit.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: You know, are you sharing the s like you said
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: you would know?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I did it. I did it in a couple of
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: groups before, just before.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: We got there's a whole bunch of new faces Misty
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and yeah, oh Saraphin, that's my girlfriend.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Little twisted.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Uh, Greg, Greg gave your friend Greg this is a lot.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Helped me. David helped me with my show tremendously. He's
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: from Coos Bay, Organ and he's had he's had UFO
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: encounters and big time like them coming down and and
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: interacting with him and like pterodactyl up and you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: up in Oregon. He's got some stories.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Now, have him contact give me the information after the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: show in the green room, and I will contact him
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: because that is interesting to me, the pterodactyl stuff. That is, Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: heard that moment mainly like Arizona, New Mexico. I haven't
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: heard the part of it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: You think. You know a lot of people try to
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: tie them into the old Thunderbirds, uh, you know, and and.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: The actual Thunderberg guys, and I think not the Pontiac right.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, V eight Yeah, portal window and whatever.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Smoking the Babits, you know, Catherine.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Yeah, we've got yeah, we've got a lot
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: of people coming in from from the Woodwalkers group that
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: that we've got. We've got a core group of people
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: and and and we've talked about growing organically. And I've
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: got like twenty two hundred subscribers and Woodwalkers have almost
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: three thousand. But we'll get fifteen hundred too. You know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: they'll get almost three thousand views. So the people that
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: are actually subscribing are actually that's awesome show. So that
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: ratio is blows my mind. So these people really they
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: watch every show too, so that's cool.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I'm at the twelve, twelve, seventy something like that.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: It's hard, it is, it's tough, but.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: You'd be like, once you get to a thousand, you're like, okay,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I made it. Like that first initial fight to breakthrough,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it's such a and then you feel like this exhilaration
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: and then you go, man, I have so much further
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: to go, which is great, but at the same time,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, one here, ten, they're lose three
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: or four for you.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And you'll reach a milestone, like you'll get the number.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: You'll be like three ninety two, and it'll hold off
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: for weeks. It's like they're almost checking you, like make
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: sure you're not doing anything, and then all of a
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: sudden you'll go from three ninety two to four eleven,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: you know. And I've had people tell me that they do.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: They do that. Every time you reach something on a
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: certain spot, they'll review everything. I just, oh, everybody, I
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: just got my YouTube banker braces taken off, so I'm back.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I'm back with the regular folks.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: They had me in YouTube jail for three months.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I don't know what. I hope they
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: changed that too. I mean, these things, it's a it's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: a it's a public forum in which we know, we
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: do things, and it doesn't fall if you know, free
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: free speech and all that. I don't know, man, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: totally disagree with it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah you don't.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: No, I totally disagree with it. But you know, I'm
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: not a political scientist, and Roger is just a you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: just a mechanic or whatever, and he doesn't. We don't.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: We're not we're not experts on anything.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: So nothing. We don't know. Crap. Wow, Who's this is incredible?
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And a lot of these people Tom. We've met at
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: meet and greets like we've had people dropped. David flew
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: in from Utah. I mean no, that's another guy, David
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: flew in from from Oregon. We have people. We're in
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the land between the Lakes, and we had over one
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: hundred people there and they were from Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, Ohio,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: West Virginia, Virginia, you know, Florida. Catherine and her husband
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: came in from how It met us and they're great,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: very much people.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Well, God willing. Whenever I'm able to support myself, it
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: will be somebody who lives in Mexico coming up and join.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: You guys, because oh there you go.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I got that passport, baby, I can I permanent resident
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: here and the United say citizenship. I might be throwing
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: dual citizenship too. I'm got see that's a possibility, so
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: it's easier for me to get in an out of
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: here from my daughter.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Well, you're living a dream right now, ain't you.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's it's I dug. I took
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: day off because I'm forty five Roger and yesterday I
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: was digging a pool. That's I don't know. I think
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: it's about maybe twenty five feet long and maybe fifteen
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: feet wide, and we're digging down about four feet and
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: then we're gonna put a rim on an edge on it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: so make it about six foot pool and you do
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that in ninety eight degree, whether it with a pick
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: ass and shovel with buckets, with the your Mexican people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Today I called my friend, you know, he has a
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: project because I need your help. I called it. I
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: can't come intoday.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I am so yeah, because it'll it'll. You know, I'm
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: fifty forward, just had a hip replacement, so that hard work.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That's right, dude. Yeah, you were down there for a
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: minute due, how did that work out for you?
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm better. I've got some issues that the doctors
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: can turn with. As far as the hip is actually good,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: it's like tissue around it that's doing some weird things.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: So he might have to go in.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: And you know, Alfred Santa Rica is here. Guys. Next
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: week we're gonna have Alfred going. Next week we're gonna
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: get into something. Man. I think we're gonna do some talk. Man.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I makes it easy on you. Al's got so many stories.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: You you're going to sit back and just enjoy him.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: He just told me a one day event where he
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: was in around some lake and like, uh, I don't
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: know if it's I don't think it's upstate New York,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: but it's like once you get out of the city,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: somewhere's farther north there, and it was like it was
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, fifteen something like that, and it was like
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the night before Halloween, and basically everything happened that that day.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, other than maybe a you know, like a
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: crawler or something he didn't have. Maybe he's just kept
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that away from me. But he's well versed. Al was
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: an awesome dude. He has a great h what's it
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: called the Bronxville Paranormal. I believe that's that's his brand.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: He's a cool guy and he will be on with
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: us next week. If I have mistake, I'll talk around
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: that little history.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I all didn't remember it, and we were laughing about
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: last night a little bit. I had this UFO experience
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: when I was like seventeen, and it took me thirty
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: something years for something to hit me when it left
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: clear sky and all that. I may have told it
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: on your show before, but it went straight up into
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: the stars just as quick as quicker than light. And
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: you know that was what do you call that? A
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: pirate a parent I shifting or shattering moment, you know, like, yeah,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: yes it is north, southeast or west. It went up
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: in a night sky, you know. So anyway, no clouds
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: at all by October. So I was I was co
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: hosting the other show and we came on late because
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Man I were talking. I thought we were alive. But
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I asked him, I said, ow, taking me thirty something
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: years for this question, I said, I shoot a lot,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and I understand the sonic booms and the speed of
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: sound and all that, and it just hit me. This
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: thing left so fast. I should have heard a sonic boom.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I've seen the airplane west lower the fighter jets with
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: a sonic boom. I've seen that in Panama, Citi on
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: the down you know where they have the basis down
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: there in Florida and Santa Rosa Island and all that, right,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: And why, I said, why didn't I hear a sonic boom?
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: This has just hit me in a couple of weeks.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Past couple of weeks, he said, Roger, if you look
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: at the TikTok video and you see that looks like
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: a cold pocket around it, because they're using heat heat
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: to see this thing, but there's a cold protective pocket
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: around it. He said. We think we're they're manipulating atmosphere
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: so it doesn't react like it wouldn't normally.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: So there's a vacuum force field kind of thing.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you can move through the atmosphere without our
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: atmosphere following the laws of physics, so to speak, that
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: we're used to. That's why they're good. That's why they
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: can reach speeds underwater like that too, I would imagine.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: So yeah, then there's the story. Then it's there's things
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: where they're coming out of the water. There's the things
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: we're going in the water, out of the water, in
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the water, out of the water. So it's it's not
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: like the the what you said, the material in which
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: this thing is traveling in is directly affecting the quote
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: unquote hole. And yes, yeah, so guys out next week,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: next week, same time, same channel. Al Santa Rica is
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: gonna come on, guys. I feel hot, buddy, William, I
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: feel go check out his he does. Hey, dude, this
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: guy is he's and he's a new uh he's a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: filmmaker and he goes out in the woods by himself
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and he's starting to make like these pretty freaking good
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: films about Bigfoot and stuff. He's in southern Indiana. Cool
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: guy too. So it's all right there, that whole Appleicia area.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: It's so interesting.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: There's plenty of weirdness here, that's for sure. We and
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: people don't realize, uh, they think Appalachia that Apalachia, however
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: you wone say it. Uh they think East Tennessee, uh,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: North Carolina were Virginia. They don't realize the length. I mean,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: it goes deep into Alabama, right, you know far north.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how far north. I guess as
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: far as.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Canada really actually all the way up in through Maine
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to Canada. But even even the Ozarks are like, uh,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you know, that whole Ozark area is very similar to
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Abalaysia in like it's culture and it's like it's myths
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and mysteries. Like there's a lot of things like connected
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: to Appalachia, like you know the large like bird, some
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: mothman and which is in uh a kind of it's
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: a weird area.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: So you know, my son comes on with me sometimes
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: he helps me out. And he was over one of
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: his friend's house and he kind of he doesn't laugh
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: at him, he respects him about the big foot stuff.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: But and Peyton just thought he was I didn't want
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: to know anything about it. One night, they were having
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: sipping on some good bourbon and playing some college football games,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: you know, on the PlayStation, and he said, man, he said,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: what kind of weird stuff y'all here?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: And he started telling them some things that we've reports
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: we took. And uh so this guy proceeds to tell him.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: He says, age he lived. He lived backed up to
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: that small airport I was talking about, and there was
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: about a ten foot fence surrounding this airport and then
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: it had it didn't have the razor wire, but it
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: had the you know how they have it leaning.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Out in the barber at the top of the three yeah.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Lean so you can't climb up.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, he used to actually be a fence installer.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And when I was fifteen to eighteen, in the summer,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I had a summer job, so you know exactly what
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about that stuff.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: This guy proceeds to tell him, well, I've never told
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: anybody this, but I was in the backyard when I
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: was young. We lived in an house, and I heard something.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: It sounded like air, rushes of air, he said. He
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: turned around, and he turned around. He looked, and was
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: getting about to get dark, and he looked at the fence.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: He looked in the area of the fence and the airplanes.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Nothing was there. There's not a lot of traffic, just
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: every now and then, right, he said. He turned around
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: and looked, and he said, this, this man looking thing
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: with wings that had that was leathery, looking like a
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: bat with two legs, landed on that fence and it
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: went through to mash that wire down and bent the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: top rail. The weight bent the top rail down, and
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: it's looking at him, and he runs in the house screaming,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: and of course when they come back, the thing's gone
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: and he's trying to explain it. And and but there
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: was damage to the fence that wasn't there when he
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: went out, and he couldn't have done it. So I
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: said you, I said, Tommy told you that. He said yeah.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I said, man, he's so reserved, and I never would
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: have He said, well, Daddy, he said, I guess he
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: just felt he just felt comfortable with me because I
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: listened to people's weird stories all the time and I've
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: had he's had some weird stuff happened to him too, Yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: my son. Yeah. But but see that's another because we
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: had the show we do, that guy felt comfortable sharing
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: with him and he wouldn't have told that out in public.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna mention his name.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: So yeah, oh yeah, you get those. You probably also
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: get those. Sometimes you get an email because I put
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: my email out there with the IA Jupiter podcast that
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: you email. I put that out there for stories, or
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: you just want to write me and talk to me.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: We can do that as well. And sometimes people would
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: just send me like, hey Tom this you know, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: they'll never you know what I mean. They just wanted
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: to tell somebody, and they can be pretty intense sometimes
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: and sometimes you know, you have to kind of like
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: write them back to see if they're okay. Uh, And
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: you know every time actually so far it's been like yeah,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, are you okay? How is this?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: And you know it's a lot to keep up on too.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: You know, people who will like, you know, send you
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: like have you seen this video? Have you looked at this?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this and that, and it
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: gets to a point where it's almost impossible to keep
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: up with. And it's like, I can't imagine a podcast
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: with like ten thousand subs that much. You need a
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: tithing to do that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: And just with our small show, you know, I have
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: people all the time. Like you said, I'll wake up
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: and there'd be my mession. My messengers so full now
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: that I try to look at all of them. But
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: then then I get long emails and I intend some
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: of my intend on readers. One Now I'm going to
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: read that a guy sent from South Alabama, and I
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: told him just put it in an email for him and
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I would read it. You know, I'm gonna read it
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: this weekend. But you can't. You can't read all of them,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: can't watch all of them. But I do, Tom. I
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: feel like, you know, I do a lot of people
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: in chat. They see me in other shows on chat
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: in chat, and the reason I'm doing that, I'm not
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: being nosy. I'm trying to figure out what's happened to
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: me too, But also I love interacting with everybody and
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: and uh supporting other shows. You know, It's it's just
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: it's it's A. It's a it's like gathering with some
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: of your friends, you know that could be people there chat,
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: A very small group. You know. It's like, you know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: my buddy Jim Magic and Pam there's like these are
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and Paul uh he's with the you know with texts
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and uh, Paul Blondes and Booze that whole, that whole
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: you know, very great, great great podcast guys, go over cha.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: It's basically a podcast network that don't think they named it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: They're just kind of like a conglomoration. And these people,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: like especially that small group of people have been you know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: they're right here right now. You know, Pamela's here and
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: so it's magical. They're like they're they're just uh, you
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: learn a lot about people who think this weird stuff
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: that people are seeing, you know what I mean, and
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: then talk about that and you know, we get like,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: you know, we're like really close friends, like all of us,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: you know, like you know, Pam says, hey, I need
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: you sort of South Dakota right now. You know, if
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I could get there, hey, hell now I was here
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: for real, what's up? Buddy? And I would go there
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: like immediately, you know, and like these. The connections that
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: we're making on these shows are much more than I
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: expected when I started it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you. It is so if you
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: have people that had things happen to them, and I've
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I've had things. So I've started digging in and asking
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: people and interviewing people and whatever. Now I got to
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: thinking like what am I doing a really trying to
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: figure this out? Or is this Am I doing this
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: for entertainment for myself to kill time? Whatever? Then you
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: get to looking at different things. So here I'm gonna
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: tell you something about me. Greg brought up a lightning strike.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I haven't been struck by lightning, but I've missed lightning
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: strikes twice. It's coming, okay, and that's my hair stood up.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: My hair stood up. I was I had of a
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: metal door, and the witnesses their hair stood up all
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: over my body. And I looked around. There was a
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: transformer just on the edge of the building, real close
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: to us. Outside. This summer storm came up and we're
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: looking at it, and this guy by side. I reached
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: and grabbed him and yelled at him to get back,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: get back, get back, get back, And right as we
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: let go of the handle, the lightning hit the transformer. Well,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, man, I'm glad, you know, I'm glad
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: that didn't get us. And when I turned around, everybody's
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: story is looking at me, like, how did you know
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: that was about to happen? I asked the guys like, situition,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: didn't you hear your whole buddy and hunter safety course,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: they told us, will feel that, get as low as possible,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: as quick as possible. So it took me a second
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: to recognize it, but it might have saved us.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Well, now, Gregg and all these people that we were
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: friends with, they have been struck by lightning. A lot
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: of them have these strange things happen now they they've
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: been struck lightning, they have these or near death experiences
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: or whatever. And and now, okay, here's where I'm at.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Contact guys, please contact me.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I started digging in, like, okay, I got to look
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: at myself too. So here's what I found out in
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: the past two months. I have old negative blood.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I didn't know that.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Read into what old negative I didn't know when I
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: talked to you, I didn't know.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's uh, that's We had a whole show
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: on that, The Foreign Forbidden. We had a whole show
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: about oh negative blood and its implications that. Yeah, I'll
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: send you a link. It's uh, it's I think it's
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I can't remember create Pam could if you get a chance, Pam,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: could you grab that for me.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know who.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we did that on because we
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: it goes and bounces around between the three shows, which
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, so everyone gets a little
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: you know, a little love and a little bit we
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: spread the wealth, you know. So I don't remember it
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: was on my channel or one or the other two.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we talked about that whole thing and like that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It's like it's basically like if you're the Bosque region
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: of France, like on the border with Andorra there that
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: whole regionally, I think like sixty percent of the people
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: there have the rh negative thing going on in their blood.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: So and it shocking appeared. It appeared in the human
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: timeline just to all they don't know where it comes from.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Right and these people guys that give it like since
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Roger brought it up, basically, these people like
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: who have this you know, like Roger and alike. They
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: seem to be a little more privy to these experiences,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: whether it be a paranormal CRYPTI, you know, all kind
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of connected in a way to it. It's just a
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: fascinating little thing that us over here on this side
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: of the you know, on this side of the screen,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: have kind of slowly through time picked up. Yeah, there
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: it is. I'mr Rachre's another one everywhere, guys. Yep.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: This may not mean anything, Tom, but because I've been
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: looking at my the because I've always felt different a
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: little bit, right, So now I found out talk to
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: some people that I don't know if they know what
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: they're talking about. I've got two m's in my poems, okay,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: you know, and the people tell you that that's really
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: rare and it's kind of a sensitive type person. It's
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: in tuned, you know, the same kind of thing with
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: oh negative. Now I've got Neanderthal DNA. Yeah, so I
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: found that out, and you know what I mean. So
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: I asked Rock, like, what are the at somebody having this, this, this, this,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: and this. It come up to point zero zero zero
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: four seven of a percent of those three combinations, loosely
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: of that happening, and so now I don't know what
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: it all means. But when I said that in my
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: first chat, we had like seventy people in there, wow,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: and the big huge majority of the people were were
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: like O rish negative. You know it's like and what
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: I said, boy, now, y'all people are not. Don't once
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: we figure out why we're connected, you can find find
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: out why you're connected us because you're connected to us. See,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: so don't don't feel left out because I heard well
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not, I'm ade whatever, and I'm like, don't you
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: know we got to have a starting point.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: If you would have estimated Roger, how many people do
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: you use like percentage wise? We'll just use like, because
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know much about the Eastern world, will you
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: just like the western well, say, you know Canada, US,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: maybe England, parts of France and Germany. And how many
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: how many percent of people if you were to ask
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: them if they've ever had any type of experience, would
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: you think there would be.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Okay? So that's that's a loaded question. How many would how.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Many like yeah, admission acceptance saying but if you were
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: to ask them, how many do you think.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Okay? I think there's I think there's a couple of variables,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: and one of them is probably location of where you're
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: asking them. If you're asking in front of a bunch
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: of people, but if you're private, but if we're one
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: on one and we're talking to them. I told Greg
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: this today. You know, we we hang around each other,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: A lot of us do. That's in chat. We hang
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: around each other, and we get this perception that there's
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of us, and then when you get out
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: in the real world and you start talking about this stuff,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: people look at you like what and then you you're not.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: It's not as many as I thought it might be.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: So if I had to put up percentag on it,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, god.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Lee, it's it's hypothetical, of course.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: It's yeah. No, And that's why I think I think
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: it's very low. I mean maybe one out of one hundred.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I've seen something like what I think it's. I think
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: it's way higher than that. I alwould suggest it's every
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: bit of thirty forty percent. And it's just this thing
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: like I you know, we're on a special little niche
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: over here in this weird, wacky corner of YouTube, right,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: But I think the regular you know, Joe and Sally
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: taxpay or whatever you want to call them, Somewhere in
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: their life, you know, they've seen their grandmother after she passed,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: or had a dream of her after they passed, or
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: they yeah, or that they felt that cold sensation, or
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: they filled the energy change which they entered this person's house.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Everyone has something, but for some reason, these old negative
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: people who have the old negative factor in their blood.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Here's that link, guys. I guess I can grab it
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: later and throw it in the show notes. But there's
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: the link, Pam, is that on my Is that on
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: my channel? Or is that on so you can start
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: your channel as my channel? Or is it on magicals
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: or Gym's So yeah, yeah, I think it's a lot more.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And I think these particular shows being in the little
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: corner that we are, you know, we're like happy. You know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: there's people you can literally do a show on YouTube
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: and you talk about you know, balloons and makeup or something,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: and you can have you know, like the ten thousand
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: subscribers in like six months what I mean, But if
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about the things that really interest
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: like you know that that sparked the mind because it's
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: kind of a couple of things come together, like psychologically
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: it's the unknown or what about the unknown? It's fascinates
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: us because us as humans want to know whatever that is.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: And what's helped is like the ancient alien shows and
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: to find the midfoot shows and the ghost huner shows
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: and all that. So people will talk about it a
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: little more, and I do little experiments like if I'm
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: wearing a big foot hat or something out in public
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: and talking to somebody and they'll, you know, they'll notice it,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, have you ever seen one? I
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: don't believe in that mess. I don't believe in that.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I said, well, have you ever had a ghost experience? Now,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you this. Almost every time I've
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: asked that question, I've got a bite. So you're right,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I have to go back. And because I'm thinking about everything.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't mean that you'd have to do.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that we'd have to do like some calculations.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I was just going with.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: I like to be I like to be a little
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: bit thorough, to put a little thought into it. And
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: but you're right, if you think about it, the ghost
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: end of it, the paranormal, Uh, it could be eighty percent.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: And it depends on who you're talking to. But that's
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: that's I said. So, so you're you're talking like one
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: of my buddies. You've got a big foot show. What
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: the hell you got a big foot show. I'm like, yeah,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: you've seen a big foot? Yeah, I said, dude, you
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: have told me you saw three foot troll standing in
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: the hallway one night when you went to go to the
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: back and I didn't say anything, and I'm talking about
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: creature and you're giving me cryp you know. He said,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: oh I did that. Now, I'm like, yeah, so he said,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: but that house was handed. I'm like, okay, I'm not
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: disagreeing with you.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, guys, from the rh negative one there is.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: It's on the Fishers Fans the night Watch channel. I'll
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: give it to you Roger. Afterwards, that was funny. I
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: was thinking, like, maybe it's an old girlfriend of his.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: My brain there, sorry, guys, that's my weird brain pological
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: thing and liking this stuff. It's like, it's uh, it's
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: the It's a new frontier that's always kind of been
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: there but no one talks about because of its implications,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: of its implications and what those implications may be. Could
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: be religious, could be God. It could be a fight
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: between good and evil. It could be you know, it
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: could be aliens intervening from We don't know what it is,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: but there's something about this whole, you know, shenanigans for
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: lack of a better word, that is exciting, exhilarating, because
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: us as a species want to know, and it's scary.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: And you've heard the people. I've heard people all my
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: life mentioned because I've hung around some some people that
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: other people thought were weird. But I've heard this word
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: awakening for a long time, and I feel like we're
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: kind of been in it for a while now, and
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: there's there's more ways to reach the public with some
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: of this, because I'm gonna tell you first firsthand. First off,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know anything about this for sure. All I
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: know is what's happened to me, So I tell I
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: can tell you what happened to me, And if you
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: can educate on me, why educate me on why it's
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: happened to me. I'll listen to you, but I'm not
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: trying to prove me because I don't have a picture
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: of a ghost.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: You know, it sounds like it's a cool and collective guy,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't know if it's
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: because of your analytical brain. Like I asked you a question,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: you kind of went, you know, you're you know you're You're.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to see a little bit of your personality,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: so like when you were I don't think that if
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I remember it, I remember we have me and Roger
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: before Guys to Break the Fourth Wall. Actually had an
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: interview a while back, and I just asked him to
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: come on again. That's normally how do I had someone
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: on a regular show and I feel comfortable with them. Boom,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: You're on a live show with me, and I don't
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: remember you saying you were too afraid about that BIGFOIT encounter.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: You were more just kind of like, you know, what
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: is this what I'm seeing? But like the other encounters
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: like the UFO or the Ghost County, did you are
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: you you know, were you fearful at any point? Did
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: you like because I remember when my politic guy stuff happened,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: they freaked me out, So you know, I just want
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: to know.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, since you mentioned Poeter Gust the only thing
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: I ever the only time I ever had anything touch
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: me uh. And it wasn't just a light touch like oh,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: because like I said, if I'm story, this definitively happened.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: You know. So we were in a hotel, my daughter
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: and I. We were on a h her mom and
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: stepdad in one hotel hours and another. We spent alternating days,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: you know, with her, and I was gonna take her home.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: She was gonna ride home with me. So I worked
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: at nights. I worked ten twelve hours at night. So
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: at three am, I was up. I was just laying
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: there right on my back, and I'm thinking, you know,
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: we're in the Appalachians, we're in smoking mountains, and I'm like, which,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: wonder which way we need to go to? The scenic
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: route or the quick route?
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: So I'm planning it out and I'm laying there on
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: my feet up the covert. This is important, the covert
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: over my feet. I'm laying there and I'm looking at
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: the clock and I'm like, man, you know, I'm gonna
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: let her sleep at least six o'clock, right, and then
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: we get an early starver and huh something it felt
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: like a thumb and that finger right there grabbed me
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: by the big toe on my left foot. Clamped down
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: on it and snatched my leg off the bed, and
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: the cover did not move, so it went through the cover.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: And but I'm not thinking about that at that point.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: It's pitch dark in there. I came up, curtain light
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: on and ready to fight. Right somebody them broke in
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: the room. Uh, they're they're fixing the rob us, they're
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: fixing them do whatever. My daughter's in here. I had
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: her slipping close to the wall. I was tord close
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: to the door, and uh, I thought somebody had come
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: in and we were about to have to handle the situation.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Turned the lights on. She wakes up, and I'm looking everywhere.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I cleared the room, so to speak. And uh, I
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: don't know what scared me more. I don't know that
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: that sudden something grabbing me and snatching it, thinking it
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: was somebody, and then afterwards knowing it wasn't anybody. And
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I said, she said, what are we doing, daddy? I said,
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: we're getting up early. You're gonna take a shower, we're
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: gonna leave early, get some breakfast, and.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Let's catch the winding. Yeah. I had that too, man,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: when that whenever that was came up between the bed
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: in the in the wall and put its hand on
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: my chest. It made me jump out of the bed.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: You know, there there's nobody there. It felt like a
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: whole hand just went right on my chest and like
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you know, and I I was eight years old. Man
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: that that the ship is it's it could be terrifying.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: You know, there's people who fake it too. You can
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: kind of there's people who do that. Roger, we know this.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: We don't do that on our shows. You know, we
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: try to We try to vet the people as best
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: we can. It's kind of hard to know everybody one
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: hundred percent before you get on. It's just you know
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: the way it goes. But the real occurrences are when
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: you can see that, you know, people just that the
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: color go out of their face and they're just kind
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: of in shock or they've seen something. It's it's quite compelling.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: It's compelling to listen to, especially it's a good storyteller,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: but it's also compelling to be there or just to
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: try to understand it in it's it's the damnest thing.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: It's the damnest thing.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: And I have that I could tell people, but I
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: don't know if I was in that almost waking up
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: stage of sleep, you know, and you you know, you
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. Uh, but this one here, I
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: know for a fact I was awake. I mean, there's
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: there's I mean, and and I wish I didn't have
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: that story because and we went back the next year
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: and I told him, I called, I said, yeah, we're
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: gonna stay here again. I said, don't put me in
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: room one ten. Whatever you do, don't be in And
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: they're like, why not, I said, because I had to
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: go scrab me by the toe. Uh the day I
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: was leaving. And I'm not. I don't even be on
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: the same floor.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: So you're not you're you know any meaning major mining
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: modde catch Roger by his toe.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: If he hollers and leaves the room, let him go
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: that It's it's it's quite frightening, you know. Like but
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I really do like my sister. You know, she actually
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: is even more like she was. She was there doing
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: an incident. But she's had even more than I've had.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: And I had her on you know, like a long time.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: We she don't have to be on camera so much.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it seems to run in my family too,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Like my mom and dad are kind of like old school,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: you know, like you know, you know, they're older, new
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: gradual course and they're like, you know, da.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Da da da da.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: But I think even the old type people seen stuff
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: like they just you know, they you know, like they
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: came back from the war. It's kind of the same mentality,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: you know, they just kind of you know, head down,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: get to the factory afterwards, have a little bit of
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: beer and just you know, it was a different time.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Well, think about what I just said.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: And it just hit me as you're saying that. My
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: daughter didn't hear that story for ten years when it happened, right,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: so to protect her mind, and I didn't drop that
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: on her. What just happened, I made up, you know, like, oh,
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: I think as a dad. So if you think about
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: the older people, I've heard big uh, I've had bigfoot reports.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: The people don't want to be on they don't want
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: But like one from this county, he said, my dad
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: was a tough old man, and uh, he was mean,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: and he came in one day had he was lucky
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: he'd seen a goo. She sat down and ate supper
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: and he didn't say much rest that night, and the
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: only thing he said to us was like, y'all, if
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: you play in the yard, don't get close to those
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: woods close to the back fence, right, And they thought
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: that was odd. And then so later they started finding tracks,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: you know, man tracks, they called it, but barefoot. And
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: then the late they had just moved in here in
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: the early seventies, and the girl, she was a little
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: girl at the time. She said, they started school and
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: she saw her neighbors. I don't know if they got
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: on the bus or whatever, but they were at school
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: and they were talking, and she said, yeah, there's a
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Harry Wildman that lives in these woods over there behind
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: all of us, and just stay away from him, you know,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: because he's he's mean. He wouldn't mean where he hurt.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: Somebody just wanted to be by himself or whatever. And
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: they found tracks all the time. They heard screams. She
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: was explaining to me, I don't know what they sound like.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: It's just like you have a sound bank in your
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: head as you as you go through life of what
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: things are, and you identify what things make sound the
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: somebody might be doing. I could tell a piece of
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: metal they picked up, or piece of wood you met
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: here at a hardwood or saltwood that somebody's hammering on.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: You know, it's just you have just bank of sounds.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: And when you have farmers and people that grew up
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: around animals, which happens a lot talk about. I don't
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: know what that was. It sounded like a bullet first,
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: but that's right, you know, and hey.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: These people are discounted by people the outsiders. Those people
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: are more knowledgeable about what's going on around them because
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: they've had that connection with that area as well as
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: the ground, the soil that animals longer than even generations
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: upon generations, even you know, Native Americans who once inhabited
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: the region had stories and for like the scientific community
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: and people sitting at home eating at doritos to snub
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: their nose at it. It's just it's it's it's uh,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a bit disrespectful, and at the same time,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: they just kind of just disconnected from it, from from
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: this because of their circumstances. You know, the high rise
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: building in New York or whatever. It's weird, and you're.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Right, it's taking a while. But when I realized that
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: it was one of the best things that ever hit me.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: These peoples or whatever we know, so much about some
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: of this stuff now, and including you, Tom. I haven't
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: watched all your shows, but you you study this stuff,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: you talk to people, you interview people. Uh oh, they're
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: they're the uneducated person in the conversation. Don't come at
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: me like that. I mean, right, you know, that's just
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: I respect your opinion, but I'm not going to have
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: a conversation with you and try to teach you in
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: the because you don't want to learn. If you come
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: to me like wanting to learn, that's a different thing.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just like there's like extremes, like for example,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I always it's not an extreme, like I would consider
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: your encounter like you know, you know, not even it's
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: never run in the middle when you run across the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: big foot. Never, it's something that scientifically doesn't exist. You've
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: seen what you saw one hunting in the field that
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: went up at the end there. I remember a little
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: bit with a ferve in it, and I remember and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: that's kind of a you know, they have different classes
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: of encounters. I guess it's like class B or whatever
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: they call it. I don't know. That's the one where
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: you if you're as a hunter, you see this thing
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: walking the way it moves and it doesn't see you,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: or maybe it thinks you're there and wants to show itself.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Like we kind of discussed that's kind of like, Okay,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: these things, these things are flesh and blood. These things
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: are an animal like anything else. And then you talk
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: to people like say, for example, gin Cybricus and in
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: British Columbia, he these things are writing and and like
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: leaving hieroglyphs and uh, you know, like taking his stuff
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: and uh then putting on the trail for him to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: find and like when he lost lost time. And there's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: there's so much, there's so much to uh to take
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: in for a person who kind of goes into this,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: like who shows an interest. So I think the only
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: thing to do with that is to like go ahead
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: and look look at look at it as much as
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: you can. It's okay to have an opinion, but like, don't.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I would say it's impolite and at the at the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: at the least to go out to somebody and experience
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: like yourself and say, ah, you didn't see that. That's
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: that's that's not that's.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Not right and and and here's why they they and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Amanda mentioned this on the show the other day of
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: the night. She's like, you can tell by their body language, David,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: and you're checks in the mail. You can tell by that,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: she said, you can tell by their body land. Come
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: into the museum and they say a big foot museum
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: and they've got that body lands Like, I'm fixing the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: mess with these folks, you know, so you kind of
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: And what I always say is that that person that
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: might be interested, but they want to have that fifty
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: year conversation in three minutes they want, you know, I'm like,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: I can't do that. I can't. I can't. I can't
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: in three minutes tell you what all I know and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: what all I found out and what all I've I've done,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: the digging and the research and the experiences that we've
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: had and stuff that's happened.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I can't do that right channel. Here it's a little
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: more spread out.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: It's not happening, You're right. So here's what I'm gonna do.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Here's my channel if you want to start and and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: and look, the evidence is there, you know, and there
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: there are we allude to other places, like you said, Tom,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: to go to other websites. How you need to do this.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: You need to watch this documentary. How you don't need to,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: you know, you need to. These guys are here gals
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: or they're right on the money with it.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: They're you know, yeah, I started watching small Town Monsters.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: It's called oh yeah.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I just started watching them and they did this whole LBL.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: And I was showing my my girlfriend and she she's like,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: you know, what's the LBL, Like you know what the lbl's, dude,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: and then like you show her and then like it's
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: none of the subtitle in Spanish and pausing like every
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: five minutes to be like, Okay, this is what's happening.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: And she's like, whoa, there's cemeteries everywhere in there, and
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: they got the people got forced out of their property.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: So there's things that I even learned, you know, doing
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: this for about two years now with the other one.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Come on uh and of course my whole life. It's like,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: you know, you always find out something and to expect,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: you know, if you're in a museum and you're like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: the propriety of the museum, like and I don't know what.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that it was big fil museums that
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: was with you. Now I do, Amanda, thank you so
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: much for doing that's uh no, I don't know. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: don't think she's here, but just I'm just.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's be lurking. Well, you know, we could talk,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: We could talk about so much because there there's so
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: many connections and and then then some of us are
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out and we may not ever figure
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: out why they're connected to us, why I'm connected with
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: with Greg and why. And I'm gonna tell you the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: people that I talked to privately that have these encounters,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: but they're in the areas where they have many multiple
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: encounters and not just you know, you hear them, hear
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: them fighting out in the fields back fighting over some
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: food or something. Sound like a bunch of monkeys trying
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: to kill each other, you know what I mean. Really yeah, no, hey,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: but they'll tell you. A lot of them will tell
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: you privately that they feel like they're more like us
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: than like monkey. So yes, yeah, so.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot of people that they have a
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: lot of characteristics. They'll remember you, like you know, the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: people who do the gifting. You know, they'll remember you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: and make it so that they know that a you
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: or you know what I mean, Like in a way
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: where they go, oh, they they did this, therefore they
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: knew it was me, and they know that I come
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: out there like they they It's a weird thing that
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: happens because some people, like you know, they're all like
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I always mentioned, because he's just such great you know,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: great encounters. Great encounter is for a person who enjoys
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: listening to him. Yeah, and you create some people create
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: like these, like in depth almost human type relationships with
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: these these entities, these creatures whatever, like me and you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: and me are basically have our feet in both worlds.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: We talked about this before, you know, let's see what happens,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: and it's I can understand how they would say, you know,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: these things are almost like us, but just a slightly
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: different version or iteration of us. But they're the masters
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: of hide and seekers supposedly, I guess.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: If y'all in chat the ones that don't know. The
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: last show, the second to last show we did, we
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: interviewed mister Ernie Davey from the Northeast.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah too.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: So his story with the communication and the sign language
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: and the blue hours and kind of a respect thing
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: because he snuck up on it and it's like, wait,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: where'd you come from.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: And uh and.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: I've heard stories, uh where the big because a lot
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: of them been full camo bow hunting and a tree
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: stand way up above. And I don't think these things
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: are used to humans being in trees, and they have
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: different reactions. Had one of one guy knew, uh, he's
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: not he's not around the bigfoot world anymore. Uh. He
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: he quit doing his shows and stuff, but he is
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: one of intents encounters. And he had the he had the scope.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: He had the crosshairs on the thing that's right here
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: below his stand. And he's former military supposed that, I think,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: he said, And he was about to pull the trigger
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: and this looked at him like you better not. It
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: had a motion in the face. He said. When that
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: had the motion in his face, he couldn't pull the trigger.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Then when he knew who that is, I think I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: know who that is.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah we're talking about that privately.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we can talk that off offline. I know
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: who we're talking about. I think.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Actually I actually co hosted with him, got my start
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Uh okay, okay, Yeah, he's a cool guy. I love guy.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah he if we're talking about the same guy, he
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: kind of got a little bit of trouble and had
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: to stop what he did.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I think I think we are talking about the same guy. Okay,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: I don't want to put people's business out there, but
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: uh but so but I have people ask me all
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: the time, you know where to go? But uh so,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: you know, you you get these conversations. Thank he twisted.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I know you were there, but oh when when you're
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: told me you you know, when you have these people
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: telling these these stories. When when Ernie kind of started
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: getting stressed and kind of got missed it out a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: little bit, me and a man to boath, I was
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: trying to hide it, man, I little bit and I'm like, oh,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: how am I gonna hide this is? I can't wipe
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: my eyes, you know, I was getting I had him.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: On the original show a long time ago, and he's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: always super active in uh, you know, the I Jupiter
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Facebook group, and he's always liking and leaving remarks and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: putting up videos and you know, ideas and pictures and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: things that he and I gotta have him on again.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: And when I had him on again, I did it
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: in a live video. It wasn't just audio. And when
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: you see him discussed the way that went down. You
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: can't help but to be like enthralled by his story.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: It is one of the most It's it's intense, but
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: in a different way. It's not like an aggressive intense.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Is an intense like whoa, this thing is communicating, like
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to this thing and it's like, yeah, it's incredible.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: It's a free that makes you think what you ought,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: what your opinion was. It gives you more maybe insight
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: on what they could be. Uh now' I'm of the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: opinion I've got a lot of researchers that I know
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: has been doing this for forty fifty years, and they'll
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: all say that there's at least four different types of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: these things depending on where you're at and their body
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: build and and and and there. I will guess their
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: brains also. And you know, if you raise a dog
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: and you throughout your few years doing it a certainstance
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: gonna be crazy or evil or mean or whatever. They're
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: just gonna be wired different. So I don't in the
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: same way with us, So I don't be any different
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: with them. So but yeah, I mean and and so
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: talking about it, then you then you then you worry,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: wonder you see things out in the woods. And I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: don't think everything's connected to Bigfoot, but I feel like
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: areas are ripe for a lot of different things, if
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: that makes sense. Yes, whether whether it's watch underground, it's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: the energyst the minerals in the ground. It's like the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Chapel real light. I was scared of it because of
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: the legend that went along with it. And when I
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: when I saw the thing lightning a year before. I
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: won't get into that, but I got a two plucks
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: a look at ball lightning. I thought it was trying
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: to get me again. And transformer blew up and you know,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: and it blinded me. But it wasn't. It wasn't like
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: in the dark blind It was for probably fifteen seconds
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: and my vision started coming back in. It was so bright.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: I thought it. I thought it damn. And my buddy
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: sitting I'm driving, and we're just we're sitting still, and
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: I had to staring wheel and I'm like, Tony, can
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: you see He said, I can't see nothing. I'm oh, no,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: because we were looking directly at this thing when it
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: blew up and in the dark, you know, at night stuff. Yeah,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: So we go to the train tracks and we've heard
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: all these stories, and I'm on the right side of
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: the truck. I'm not driving. I'm around seventeen ish, and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: it was a probably like an October night, clear sky,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: no fool outside this comfort, and I'm looking down here,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: and I'm more worried about people messing with us scariness,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: you know, And That's what I'm worried about. So I
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: got my head on the swelvel. I'm looking behind the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: truck wherever the lights are off, and I'm thinking this
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: is going to be like last time. We're not going
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: to see anything. Well, all of a sudden, at probably
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: five o'clock, I noticed a light and I look over
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: at it and there's a hardwoods probably a D sixty
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: seventy yard flat and then you come out of the
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: hardwoods and it's probably twenty yard to the tracks. You
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: have to come up and up the elevation and get
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: on top of the tracks. It's elevated. Now we're setting
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: up on top on the track actually, which was done.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: We could see the train for miles if it's coming.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: So when I saw this thing, I ordered, I think
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: I say it loud. I said, oh, there it is.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: So they're starting to look around me and look, you know,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: there's two more in the truck and they're having to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: look around me and I lock in on this thing
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: and immediately recognized that it looked just like the ball
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: lighting and thatne I saw. Okay, now you think about this.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: This is what people This is how I know people
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: are lying when they say all the light and you
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: think about this. Now you know, guy, ever, but I
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: saw this, So this is what makes me know that
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: this is what it does. An orb is brown. You
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: take a globe put in your end. Now, if that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: globe is emitting h a really strong light that looks
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: like electrical blue white. That light is going in direction.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: It's not going forward, it's not going behind it. It's
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: going in every directions under it, all around.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Is it like a bluish white light?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, it's like electrical like uh, like I seen. Well,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: if you've seen there's a there's a fake there's a
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: fake video out there, Uh that shows something coming across
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: the tracks and it has lightning coming from it or whatever.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: It looks similar to that. But the thing what no
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: sound with this thing? There were no nothing shooting out
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: from it. If you see that video, that's that's what
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: I'm describing. But when it was in the woods and
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: the pitch dark, yea, it illuminated the woods and the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: trees that were closest to me still dark shadows. The
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: trees on the other side were lit up, The trees
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: behind it were lit up, the ground lit up, going
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: up through, the limbs were lit up. And this thing
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: is moving, it's moving. So as it's moving, these shadows
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: are dancing. They're going everywhere because this this light source
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: is moving, Yeah, yeah, everywhere, up down sideway and and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it and really in awe of this thing,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: and almost bell tized. It came out of the woods
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: and it wasn't so smooth. It came up and it
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: went up. And when it got to the track, when
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: that ball entered the center of those two tracks, it
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: went was like a magnet magnet pull, magnetic pull. It
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: shook and it stopped. It started sliding, gliding towards us.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, get off the tracks, get off
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: the track. And uh, there was no sound and this
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: thing was blideen, just like a using the magnetic you
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: know that left right Well, I learned this later, but
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: something had pulled it up to the track. Some force,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: some gravitational pull, something pulled it to those tracks. It
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: was attracted them, and it did its thing and maybe
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: came twenty five yards towards it had pulled it to
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: the track. Something was manipulating it from the woods and
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: it leaned and it ripped from the tracks and went
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: down the slope again and went into the woods, kind
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: of bouncing off the trees and just went. It didn't disappeared.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: It was so far back I couldn't see it. So
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: that was the first orb I've ever seen. And people
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: were talking about ghosts and they were talking about, you know,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: paranormal stuff like that, and I'm like, no, wait a minute,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: I've seen this before and it was natural, it was electrical,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: and so I didn't know what it could be. So
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: it could have been friction built up from the previous
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: train that came through. Could it be minerals and stuff
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: in the ground. Could it be And I'm you know,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: I'm I don't know what to think about it. Then
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: I saw years later a documentary on some lights orbs
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: that come up out of the Mountain River, and it's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: well documented in these signs like that. Scientists were like
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: that that can't be true. Let's let's go check it out.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna butcher this, but this is what they said.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: This river was in it come through the river can
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: or whatever. So they were looking at it, and they
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: actually saw the oarbs come up out of the water
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: and just just left. And then she kind of this pated. Well,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: they were like, what can cause this? They saw it
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: with their own eyes. They tested the soul on one
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: side of the river and the soul on the other
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: side of the river, and the water they had litium,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: sulfur and some other thing that was naturally created this
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: big battery. So having natural natural energy coming up out
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: of it. Now, I'm not saying that's what all of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: it is, because one of them I saw was within
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: twenty yards of us, ten feet up in the tree.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: My wife. We watched it for twenty minutes and we
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: kept changing. It was a pitch. It's dark. This more
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: looked more like plasma, and it wasn't round. It was
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: more hot dogs, maybe twice as long as a hot dog.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: And it was and it was changing ship just like that, slowly,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: very slowly, but it was definitely pulsating in a slow
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: and and the light wasn't electrical. It was more yellowish white,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: and it was and there wasn't light emanating as strong
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: as this other. I didn't see light from it. You
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: would have think I would have been able to leave
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: for the limb. It was close to if it was,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: excuse me, if it was, but it wasn't right. And
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: that was the difference between those two ords that I saw.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: And we've seen the blue, the electric blue that we
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: can't explain, and yeah, it's it's I don't know. I
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: don't know what it is. I don't know what the
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: it could be. I just know what what I've seen
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: and when when I when I see stuff, I try
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: to lock in on it and remember as much details.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Greg talks about this, he's in law enforcement. I wanted
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: to be a detective in the way my mind works.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: If men, you are out doing something, Tom and I
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: see something unfold in front of me, I might lock
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: in one important section of it and really get that down,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: that detail down, and then when I remember it ten
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: years later, it's like replaying like a movie. Okay, so
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: I can't pick up on stuff I didn't focus on,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: but whatever I focused on it sticks with me. So right,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: try to.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Do Yeah, there's sorry, man, but there's there's a I've
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: heard of an ORB one time that I had like
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: leaking lava coming off of it. There's so many different
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: types of those two. Man, it's just a it's a
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: wild thing, dude. But we gotta slowly wrap this up
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: because right after this is my buddy, the Magical Journey.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: I just try to find a way to shoehorn at it. It
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: always feels weird. You're having a great conversation, and I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: gotta let go. I got to make sure my buddy
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: gets love and time over there. So right after the show, guys,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: go over to the Magical Journey podcast and check out
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: his channel. He's gonna have a really cool show he
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: always does, his good friend of mine, and he's gonna
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: kill it like always. Dude. Yeah, I think you and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: I could. We could actually talk about fishing mores if
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: we wanted to, or buck knives for hours on end.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to talk to you, man, Thank you
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: so much for coming on. Please let everyone know, you know,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: through my format view I guys go, you know, go
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: go over to Rogers channel. What's what's the name of
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: your channel again? And you know, how do they find anybody.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an easy squatch and holler you you go
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: back and tomorrow when the chat, the live chat shows
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: up and you can scroll through and click on the links.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: Right now you can go well you well, you could
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: click on my name if I said something, but it's
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: easy to find. But then from there, you know, it's
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: the TikTok thing and Facebook or whatever. I've got stuff
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: on there too, So y'all look me up and I
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: may send a link or tom if you can share it.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: It's you know, we we we want to grow because
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: we want to reach people and I want to I
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: want to reach that person that can help me with
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: my questions also.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we need to be able to share information
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: with amongst one anothers and these might be the conduits
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: for doing so. There's been I thought's the one contact
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: me personally about help on something, and I thought of
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: somebody else, and then I asked that person, could you
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: help them? And he goes, yeah, give them, let contact me.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: I'll contact you know. It's just an intermediary between one
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: person who had the information and one person who needed
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: the information, both great people. And I was able to
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: bridge that gap and I and that was incredible. Thank
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: you so much, Mark, you know who you are. And yeah,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want to put him out out there and
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: what actually happened. It's all private, but thank you Mark
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: for your help. Yeah, dude, I'm running around here in
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: circles shot a favorite thing. I will thank you for
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: all the new people in the chat today. You guys
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: are awesome. Thanks for coming from from uh you know,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: knowing Roger. Thank you Roger for the help for promoting
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: the channel, and thank you so much for being on dude.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Once in a while, we should do this and we
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: just you know, catch up on things and see what
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: you're doing over there on your channel and some of
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: the research you doing because Roger is also a bit
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: of a researcher as well, so it's pretty cool stuff.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it, y'all, and it was fun and I
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: hope I didn't talk too much.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: No, man, you never do, never do never, dude. We
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: still got nine minutes to go before you can go
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: check out Magical Journeys podcast. I appreciate Ityboddy, and let's
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: keep in touch. Okay, all right, okay, remember guys, we
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: are the I we are aware, love you all and
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: have a wonderful weekend m h M Sai