Latest / Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen / Bechoros 28

Transcript

Bechoros 28 · Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen

0:00
SPEAKER_00: Today's Bekhoir is Daf Chovzain or Chafchas, depending on what schedule you're on.
0:05
SPEAKER_00: But we're gonna do a little bit of both today, starting where we left off yesterday by the two dots, Khovzain and Middays.
0:09
SPEAKER_00: By Bekhor Nech Hashanah Bashana Bachhulu what?
0:12
SPEAKER_00: Some people are Khafchas is tomorrow, but where we left off is almost Chovchas.
0:18
SPEAKER_00: But uh welcome back to the Rosh Kail over here.
0:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Bekhar Nech Hashanah Bhashana Bachulu.
0:26
SPEAKER_00: So we saw in the Mishnah that you have a year generally.
0:29
SPEAKER_00: You have a year to eat the Bihar.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: But the way that the Pasuk said it, the Pasuk said Shanah Bashana.
0:35
SPEAKER_00: So what exactly does that mean?
0:36
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemar like this.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: What is considered the year?
0:46
SPEAKER_00: Is it a calendar year?
0:48
SPEAKER_00: Is it its own year?
0:48
SPEAKER_00: Meaning you have a year from the birthday of the animal, or you have a year until the next uh fiscal year, whatever it is, till Tishra, till Rashana.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: So which one is it?
0:55
SPEAKER_00: So says the grammar dear.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: From the fact that Mishnah didn't even talked about if it got a mum within its year.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: But what did it say?
1:03
SPEAKER_00: Not within the year.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: Within Shnasoy, its year, meaning its personal year, its personal birthday year from whatever date it was born a year from then.
1:11
SPEAKER_00: So that teaches me the memra de Lashana Demonina.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: That teaches me that I count based off of its personal full birthday year and not based off of the fiscal Tishrei, whatever year, even if it lets it was born a month before Tishre, it's not over.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: That year isn't over a month later.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: No, we go according the Lashana Didemanina and we go we count according to its own year.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: Mina, how do we know that?
1:31
SPEAKER_00: Meaning that's a deal we just made from the Mishnah, from the fact that it said Shna soi.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: But Mina Animili.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: How do I know that?
1:36
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, the Amarabi, the Marabi, descend the name of Rap.
1:42
SPEAKER_00: You have to eat it where before Shaman Kaha?
1:43
SPEAKER_00: Shanah Bishanah.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Interesting lush.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: So instead of saying Shanah, you have a year to eat it, we said Shanah Bishana.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: So that's teaching me you have a Shanah that's going into another year.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: Right?
1:53
SPEAKER_00: You eat it Shanah Bishanah Shanah in another year.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: So what is considered a year that goes into another year?
1:59
SPEAKER_00: Where do you have such a midsius?
2:02
SPEAKER_00: It must be referring to the Shanah of the Bihar itself.
2:04
SPEAKER_00: Why?
2:05
SPEAKER_00: Because if you're gonna talk about the Bihar's personal birthday, that it has its own personal year, that's one year that goes into another year.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: What's the other year that it goes into?
2:13
SPEAKER_00: That's the regular fiscal year.
2:15
SPEAKER_00: So if it was born in uh, you know, if it was born in Eeyore or whatever it is, then a year from then, obviously it's gonna overlap with the regular fiscal year that's gonna start the new one on Tishre.
2:24
SPEAKER_00: So you're gonna have its own personal year going into the other year.
2:28
SPEAKER_00: That's Shonabhishana, that's a Shona Shanechneses Bahavirta.
2:31
SPEAKER_00: And the Ayamarashana Shah Bukhar, that teaches me that we're talking about the personal year, one full year of the Bihar's life.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: So that was Rav himself.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: Remove them in the name of Rav.
2:43
SPEAKER_00: The Bey Rav, this following uh halochah came from the base madrash of Rav, not Rav himself, the Beyrav Tanah Shana Bashana, which teaches me something else.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: Yoy Mechad Bhashana Zoo, the Yoim Mechad Bashana Zoo.
2:54
SPEAKER_00: Shana Shanabashana teaches me that how long do you have to eat the Bihar?
2:59
SPEAKER_00: We know different karbanas at different halochas, meaning how long you had to eat it.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: So how long you have to eat the bihar?
3:04
SPEAKER_00: So it teaches me that Yoy Mechad Bashana Zo, the Yo Mechad Bashana Zoo.
3:07
SPEAKER_00: You're able to eat the Bihar for two years.
3:09
SPEAKER_00: What does that mean for two years?
3:10
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, not two years, but there's a Mitssias where you could eat the Bihar on two different years.
3:14
SPEAKER_00: Where do you have such a Mitsia?
3:15
SPEAKER_00: Where you have one day of this year, let's say you had the Bihar and you shafted it to the last day of the year.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh so you have the last day of the year, and then you have Alif Tishra Rosh Hashanah the next uh the first day of the next year.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: So that's where you can eat this bihar across two years, which teaches me what?
3:30
SPEAKER_00: In other words, that it has been of a shlamim.
3:31
SPEAKER_00: That it's nachal sneal shneomim, vila achas two days and one night, it's gonna have the same din.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: Yoy Machabashana, sorry, the bear the raftana, shanabashana, Yoy Machashanazu, Yahya Machana Zoo, leame al Bahosh and Nachal Shney Yom Vila Achah.
3:44
SPEAKER_00: That teaches me about a bahar, that it's eaten for two days and one night like a shlamim, and therefore, that's what I learned from Shana Bashana.
3:50
SPEAKER_00: That you could eat it for two years, obviously it doesn't mean two years, it means that one day this year, one day that year, what I'm learning from it is that you have two days to eat it, because that's the only way it's you can find where you're gonna be able to eat it for two years.
4:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but the beir Rav, where Ur Ula the Bay Rav the Bach says, according to the Bay Rav that uses Shana Bashana to teach me about how long you have to eat the bikar, how is he gonna know how we count the year, right?
4:15
SPEAKER_00: He's not gonna learn like a Rav himself that says Shana Bashana is Shana Shenekhnasas Lachaverta, he used it for something else.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: He used it to teach me Shneyama Milana Achas.
4:22
SPEAKER_00: So how's he gonna know that?
4:22
SPEAKER_00: So the alphabet.
4:24
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna learn the fact that it has to be that you have one year from regular khotchim.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: Meaning regular khajim across the board, other kabanas, they're a year old.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: So they come over the kchem and go five me now.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: And how do I know that about regular khotchim?
4:39
SPEAKER_00: You find this a lot.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: Kevin's benchnasi.
4:40
SPEAKER_00: It's a year old.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: So you see that the shiv khajim is a year.
4:42
SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna apply that here over here as well.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: The Bae Rab is gonna tell you, and therefore, uh, that is left open.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: Shana Bashana is left open to teach you the alacha of Shne Yom and Vilaila Ach, that it's gonna have the time period of how long you have to actually eat it.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: It says the Gamar Shnasoi, or sorry, Kevas benchnasi, Shnasoi Shaloi, Veloi Shonasha Minion Oilam.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: Shnasoy, again, it's own year.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: That's what I know by Koshim Gufay.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: Koshim Gufayo, I know.
5:06
SPEAKER_00: Kevas benchnasoy, again, it's its own year.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: It's not the fiscal year, it's not shonashem minion oilam, it's not the regular uh fiscal year, but rather it's its own year, and then I learn it from Koshim, just like over there, it's its own year, so too over here, but Bahra, it's gonna be its own year.
5:18
SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be Rav.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: What Rav is gonna tell you, Nechal Shneyam Malala Akalminale?
5:23
SPEAKER_00: How's Rav gonna know this year of how long you have to eat it?
5:25
SPEAKER_00: Like a shlonim of two days and one night.
5:27
SPEAKER_00: How's Rav gonna know that?
5:28
SPEAKER_00: He used Shonabish not to teach you that it's uh that it's uh eaten for two years, where we saw a second ago from Dibir Rav.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: He used that already to teach us what we started off with.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: That you have it's it's its own year.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: It's shonnah shanikhnessis lachaverta.
5:42
SPEAKER_00: So it says the Gemara, where is Rav gonna know that from?
5:44
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna learn it from U Mi Ubisaram.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna learn it from the word ubisarum, i' the the haq chazat nufa khshaikhayam, which teaches me the what?
5:54
SPEAKER_00: You have a hekash between bihar and shlomim.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: Why?
5:56
SPEAKER_00: Because by Bihar it says, the butter of the bikar should be for you, like the chazat nufo khikhayomin, which is referring to what?
6:06
SPEAKER_00: It says Rab, it's referring to ishlamim.
6:08
SPEAKER_00: That you have the chaza and the shrik, just like by the shlamim you have that.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: So so too over here, just like by the shlamim, again, the what's the shir of ishlomim we know it's two days and one night that you have to eat it.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: So too over here by Bahar, it's gonna be like a shlamim, like the chaza and shik of ishlamim, that you're gonna have two days and one night.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: Mala lunchne yom vila echod, afkan sne yomlala echad, just like over there by a shlamim, it's gonna ha it has the shear of two days and one night.
6:29
SPEAKER_00: So to over here by Bukhar, it also says shrik and chaz of a shik, and therefore we have a hekash between the two, and we're gonna learn that the shear of two days and one night.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: That's what Rav's gonna tell you, that's why he has Shana Bashana extra, because he doesn't use it for that because he just learned it from here, so he has Shana Bashana to teach me Shonar Hanichnas Lachaverta to teach you that it's talking about its own year and not the physical ear.
6:49
SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be Idah.
6:49
SPEAKER_00: What about the Beirab?
6:50
SPEAKER_00: What are they gonna tell you?
6:51
SPEAKER_00: Where they what are they gonna do with why don't they learn it from here?
6:54
SPEAKER_00: Basically, Rav just brought us a very good mekar, right?
6:56
SPEAKER_00: So the hekish between Bukhara and Shlomim.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, they're gonna tell you like this I may hassam.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: If I learn it from there, I'll tell you that it doesn't necessarily refer to Shlomim.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, just because it's chazik, it means shlomim, maybe it's a specific type of shlomin.
7:09
SPEAKER_00: Ikalemeim are chazab a shek shall toidah.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's referring to a toidah which is a type of shlomin, but it doesn't have the law of shlomin that it's steyomin malala achas.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: But rather, taidah is only one day and one night that you have to eat it.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, how do you know that to say that it's like a tchaz of a shik of a regular shlomim that has two days and one night.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: I'll just tell you that it's like a toid of a shlamim that has one day and one night.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: So I wouldn't even be able to learn it from there.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: It's a very good time.
7:32
SPEAKER_00: So what's Ram gonna say back to that?
7:33
SPEAKER_00: So Rah's gonna tell you, I'm crabbing, because the pasik says l'hoyah, and l'hoyah extra over there teaches me, bah.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: The ta the pasik is teaching you the khoiyah, there's hawaiya khers, there's like something extra.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: We had a similar uh Indian yesterday.
7:47
SPEAKER_00: So the Pasik is teaching me there's something extra by a bihar, that even though over here you're right, tafasta mi rubala tafasta, so I could only teach you one day and one night, because maybe it's like the chaz of a shakh of a ta'h that only has one day and one night, so I have the hekish.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: So, how do you know more than one day and one night?
8:01
SPEAKER_00: Because by Bihar it says l'haiyah.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: One thing extra, so not only one day and one night from the hekish, but also another day, which leaves you with two days and one night because it says l'hoyah, which is haisib-tha qasubh.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: That's how we know the second day by Bahar by a Bahar.
8:16
SPEAKER_00: So you have that extra day.
8:16
SPEAKER_00: It says more of Idah.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay, very good.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: So what is the Bayrav gonna tell you back to that?
8:21
SPEAKER_00: Ha mechasam or imehausam, some gear size have.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: If you if um if you're gonna tell me l'ha, I'm gonna tell you that you can't use that for your extra day.
8:34
SPEAKER_00: Then you're gonna tell me from there, ikal a meymar, hi alcha, le made a bhharba'umum shinas alkhayan.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: That's teaching me something else completely.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: Why is that a khidish?
8:47
SPEAKER_00: Because shalamat sinu lay the khalatara'kula, because we never find the khala kulah again, we mentioned this yesterday, you never find in kal tarakula where you have conscience that has a mum that you still have to give it to the client.
8:55
SPEAKER_00: Generally, if it has a mum, then you're gonna be pointed, or whatever it is.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: The khiddish by bahar is that even if it gets a mum, you still give it to the coin.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, that's what the khaiyah is teaching you that it specifically goes to the client even with a mum.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: Eduh, Almar is gonna tell you, Ubsarum already taught me that.
9:09
SPEAKER_00: Why?
9:10
SPEAKER_00: Bsaram is plural.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: That teaches me echo tam, ech, ba'mum, that you give it to the client, whether it's a tam, whether it's a ba'mum.
9:15
SPEAKER_00: Again, it's plural.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: Bsaram, it's basar, but plural basar, meaning what's the two things we're talking about?
9:20
SPEAKER_00: Tam and ba mum, you give it away.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: So the qiyah doesn't teach me that, meaning the qiyah is gonna be extra to Hyisible Kos of Avaya Kheras to teach you the extra day, no problem.
9:28
SPEAKER_00: It says, Okay, very good time.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: So why don't I learn from Ubsaram?
9:31
SPEAKER_00: It says like Ubsaram, the hani bichar is the Kuli israqama.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: Ubsaram is not plural to teach me echod tam and echodbaum.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: Bhisaram in the context made sense to say plural.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: It's not referring to different types of bihar, whether it's tam or ba mum.
9:43
SPEAKER_00: It's referring to all the biharis of khalisral.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: But Mikal Makamaker tell you that it's really talking about only tmimim, only tmimim, only one type.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: Why does it say plural?
9:52
SPEAKER_00: Because it's talking about plural amounts of them.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: That many tmimim of all Klalisral.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: Bihar is the Kuli Israel Kyomar, but really I could tell you that it's only referring to tmimimim.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: How do I know Baal Mum?
10:02
SPEAKER_00: How do I know even if it's a Baalmum?
10:04
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm gonna learn from the Kha'iyyah to teach me even a bakar ba mumum, and that's why I don't learn it from Saram.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemarvaita.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: Noila Dloimum Bisakshna says Khadesh.
10:16
SPEAKER_00: And the ikr over here is the next part, which you should we should write a Vikhulu over here.
10:21
SPEAKER_00: The next part of the Mishnah, that depending on when we saw yesterday was very Mishubish, and this Gemar is also gonna be a little bit uh out of proportion, disproportionately mishubish in terms of the gear size over here.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: But the Mishnah basically said that you had, if it got a mum, so you could keep it for a full year.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: You could keep it called yud based khadesh.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: And if it got a mum, we're gonna see the ibaylhu in the gamara what exactly this part meant, the khlao.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: But if it got a mum, then you have an extra 30 days.
10:47
SPEAKER_00: Does that mean if it got a mum within its 30 within its year, then you have another 30 days?
10:51
SPEAKER_00: Or if it got a mum after the year, then you have 30 days to keep it.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: So what are we talking about?
10:54
SPEAKER_00: says the Gemari bailu.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: He kamer.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: What is the Mishnah talking about?
10:57
SPEAKER_00: Let's try to break this down.
11:02
SPEAKER_00: If it got a mum within its first year, then you could keep it for 12 months.
11:09
SPEAKER_00: And then you get an extra 30 days after that year if it got its mum within its first year, is that what it means in the Mishnah?
11:14
SPEAKER_00: Or you know, or maybe, hey, or maybe, what in the Mishnah mean?
11:20
SPEAKER_00: Where it got a mum within its first year, Rashad Kaimai Kult Shneemasar Chidesh, then you're able to keep it for a full 12 months, but nothing more than that, because it got its mum within its first year.
11:33
SPEAKER_00: But if it got its mum after the first 12 months, then aim at Rashad the Kaimala Shash, then you get 30 days.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: Then you're only gonna be able to keep it for another 30 days.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: So again, what does it mean?
11:41
SPEAKER_00: If it got its mum within its first year, then you have the year and 30 days, or no.
11:45
SPEAKER_00: Or it means that if it got a mum within its first year, then you have you have the first 12 months, and that's it.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: You don't have anything else.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: But if it got a mum after 12 months, then you have 30 days.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: So what exactly are we talking about?
11:58
SPEAKER_00: I'll bring you a right.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: A Bihar Bismanaze.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: A Bukhar Bismanazeh.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: Actually, until before it's fitting to show the hochham.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: What does that mean before it's fitting to show the hoham?
12:08
SPEAKER_00: It means before it has a mum, right?
12:09
SPEAKER_00: So there's nothing to show to a chaham.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: So before it got a mum, rashimoy shim shaimish.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: You can keep it for two, three years, because think about it, what are you gonna do with a bah?
12:18
SPEAKER_00: Bismanahzeh.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: Bukhar bizmanazah.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: You have, you're not, you're if it's a tam before it has a mum, you're not able to eat it.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: You have to give it to a uh, you have to bring it as a karm, but there's no base of mingles, so you can't bring it into the carbon.
12:30
SPEAKER_00: So you're basically gonna have to wait around until it gets a mum.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: But so so how long do you wait around?
12:35
SPEAKER_00: So that's what that's what the price is addressing right now.
12:37
SPEAKER_00: Even two, three years.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: Why?
12:38
SPEAKER_00: Because you can't make it have a mum, you can't put a mum, and that's matamum bikarchum would be a serious problem.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, you wait around until it gets a mum.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: So before it gets a mum, rash the kaim ishnaimish.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: You can keep it for two, three years.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: Umisha nearasl khacham, once it's fitting to show a khachum, what does that mean?
12:54
SPEAKER_00: Once it got a mum, so you have something to show the khacham, no the mum is nasa.
12:57
SPEAKER_00: So it depends when you when it got the mum.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: If it got the mum within its first year, then rash the kayakosh archished.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: You could keep it for 12 months.
13:05
SPEAKER_00: If it got a mum after its first year, then eino rasha.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: You can't even keep it for one day.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: You have to immediately give it to the coin.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: But even one hour, you get to immediately give it.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: That's the iqr adin.
13:15
SPEAKER_00: However, Avum Ta Shava Savedah, because of a Shovasabeda le bailin, we're gonna see what that means in a second.
13:20
SPEAKER_00: Amru the Khham said, Rash the Kahabhim, you can keep it for 30 days.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: What's that Shava Saveda la bailan?
13:25
SPEAKER_00: Now, Shavas Aveda is really maker, and then you have to uh this is already over a year.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: As soon as it gets alum, that second you gotta shachta give it to the kayin.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: However, what if you don't find the kayin right away?
13:34
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna shachta it, and you're gonna be looking for a kayun, you're not gonna find the kayun right away.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: Rashid says the bus is gonna be Masriach, and therefore, we say because of Ashavas Aveidah, because who does this belong to?
13:43
SPEAKER_00: The bail.
13:43
SPEAKER_00: Who's the bailim?
13:44
SPEAKER_00: Ashavas Aveda'em.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: The Kayan.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: It belongs to the Kayin.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: But we have this buster and it's gonna be Masriach, but you want to give it to the Kayan without it being Masriach.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: So because of Ashva Saveda al-Baylam, we tell you you're allowed to keep it around for 30 days, find the Kayan, and then Shachta, then give it to the Khan.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: That's really what you're supposed to do.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: But either way, that's the Rashad the Kama Shloshimyun.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: But what do we see, Zakterashi?
14:00
SPEAKER_00: Al Malamid Yaim di Kaumar and Noil Mumm saaks.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, we see from this Brahza, it's not clear in the Gemar's about to ask that, but the the Gemara is trying to bring a ray that we see that the 30 days that we said is when it got its mum within its first year.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: That's when you have a 30 day after this, after the year, when it got its mum within the first year.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna give you an extra 30 days.
14:23
SPEAKER_00: I'll still ask you a question that what are we talking about in the Braissa?
14:25
SPEAKER_00: Shlashim Yahim, achash Nasoy, that the 30 days that you get, is that talking about when it got a mum?
14:31
SPEAKER_00: Ahash Nasai, when it got a mum after it's here, or you don't got a shnosa, or it's talking about where it got a mum before it's here.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: So it's not even clear in the Brahsah how is it from the Brahsa Bakal?
14:40
SPEAKER_00: I'll bring you another Rayah from another Braissa.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: If it got a mum when it was when there was 15 days left to its year, then Mashlima Khamisha Soryo and Akhnasa, then we're gonna give him another 15 days after the year is over.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: So from today, we're gonna give you another 30 days, Shma'mi no.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: We see clearly from there.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: So it's not why.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: It says Rashi, why?
15:02
SPEAKER_00: Because A'ma'mayom de katani, masnisen alloila by mum la akhish nasaikai.
15:07
SPEAKER_00: Because obviously when Armishna said that we give you 30 days, it's talking about where you got a mum, where it got a mum after the year.
15:14
SPEAKER_00: Because if it got a mum within the year, what do we just say?
15:16
SPEAKER_00: That we're gonna guarantee you 30 days anyway, right?
15:18
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna guarantee you if you got a mum 15 days left of the year, you're gonna get 15 days, and then another 15 days.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna eat it's gonna total 30 days.
15:25
SPEAKER_00: But if it got but so what are we talking about in the Mishnah that you're gonna get uh 30 days after the year?
15:30
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, that's talking about where you got the mum after the year.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: So you're always gonna have a minimum of 30 days, and that already is a raya shami now.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: Now, what were we talking about in the Mishnah that we're gonna give you 30 days?
15:39
SPEAKER_00: That's talking about where we got a mum after the first year.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: So you're always gonna have 30 days, we're gonna give you another 30 days.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: Once it develops a mum, at that point, 30 days, says Gamar Messaler Beleza.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: This is a raya actually to something said that Blazers said, nice and like Slash Miyami Shash and Alibamum.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: That we're always gonna give you 30 days from the time that it developed a mum, which we see clearly over here that if you had 15 days left, we're gonna give you 15 plus 15 afterwards.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: And if not, if it got a mum after the year, then we're gonna give you 30 days after that.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: We're always gonna give you 30 days from the time that the mum developed, says the Gamar.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: Ikad Amri, we have a different version of Ribblazer that Umr Ribbaza me nain the Bhakoshalibum is nash, shinas and slash nasi.
16:15
SPEAKER_00: And this version of Lazar says, that how do we know that a Bahar that got a mum within its first year?
16:20
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna give you 30 days after the first year.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: Not like what he just said.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: Shaimat the Pasik says, which teaches me a zain yomachashuv and shanah.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: What is what are days that sometimes are considered a year?
16:33
SPEAKER_00: Because it's Shashana Bashana.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: Rashis says of here, Shana Bashana, Shte Shana Mashmah.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: It's Mashmah two years.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: So where do we have Shana?
16:39
SPEAKER_00: One year and we give you another year.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: What's days?
16:41
SPEAKER_00: What's the amount of time that's considered a year, even though it's not really a year?
16:45
SPEAKER_00: English Slash, that's 30 days.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: Rashi brings, we learn in uh we learn in uh Mesakhis Rash Hashanah in the first parak that shana and chashum shana devia call.
16:55
SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees that 30 days is considered a year for some extent, for some alohas.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, therefore, Shana Bashana, Mashmah, two years, what's the two years we have?
17:03
SPEAKER_00: The two years we have is gonna be the year, the first 12 months, plus 30 days, and that's what we learned from Shana Bashana.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: We just brought a Brash a second ago.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: That does not work with what we just said from Urbelezar, the Ikidamri of Ubilazer.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: Why?
17:17
SPEAKER_00: Because we just said from the Brahsah that Noyla Daimum Bah Hamisha Saryom isha sory and achesh nasay.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: What is what do we see in the Brahsa?
17:26
SPEAKER_00: If it got a mum when?
17:27
SPEAKER_00: 15 days left to its year, then we give you what?
17:30
SPEAKER_00: 15 days more of next year.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: So a full 30 days.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: But not an extra 30 days for next year, meaning it totals 45, 15 of this year, then an extra 30 days, like our beleza just said.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna be that.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: We see clearly ashloma in that we're gonna be mashlimit to 30 days, but me'a valai, but we're not just gonna give you an extra 30 days next year, like Rabalazar just implied.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: It says, Tiyuftaz, Tiyuftah, this is a raya.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: Raya before, who's an Amoira, Rabalazar, not Rebel Eliazar, and therefore it's a Tiufta on Ribalazar Tiufta.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: Says the Mishnah Viter.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: A Sheikhit Habihar.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: Bach takes out S.
18:06
SPEAKER_00: A Sheikh a Bahara Maris Mumai.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: Someone who first shachs the Bihar and then only brings the mum to uh so he's he's pretty sure, hey, this Bihar is a mum, and he decides to shacht it, but he doesn't ask a chahum.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: He only asks the chhachum, he brings the bihar over to the chachum after he shachts it and says, hey, this was a mum, right?
18:23
SPEAKER_00: And then the chhaum says, Yeah, it was a mum, you were you shachhted it fine, you're good to go.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: Is that okay?
18:26
SPEAKER_00: It's obviously not okay.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: You have to ask the shailah before you go and do it.
18:29
SPEAKER_00: This guy did the opposite.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: He first shachhted it, umara es mumai, and then he brought it to the Chaqam.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: And even if the Chaqam confirms that, yeah, it was a mum and you you were good to shachate it, it's still gonna be a problem.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: Why?
18:39
SPEAKER_00: Because he didn't do it in the correct order.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: You had to ask the Chachum before.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: And that's what the Mishnah is addressing.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: Rabiuda's matir.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: Remair says, No, Rebutah says no problem.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: Then the day it was a mum, and the Chaqum confirmed it was a mum.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: You did it in the wrong order, you shachted at first, I understand, but then the day it's gonna be muttir.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Remer Rameir says, Hoyo Vinishcha Shalai alpimcha usur.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: Since it was Nishcha Sheloy Alpimcha, because he only asked him afterwards, then it's gonna be Asir.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: Mesha'i na mumchib Ray is a bhakhar.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: Someone who's not, another Allah the Mishra says, someone who's not a mumcha.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: And he paskins about a bahur that it has a mum, Binishchad alpha, then he decides that it's good to go, and the shachhted based off what he said that it's a mum, you have to bury it.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: You cannot rely on that bakal.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: Not only that, he's gonna have to pay for it.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: The Ma'ri over here that gave his sake incorrectly because he wasn't a bar samcha, and still he paskin, he's gonna have to pay for it.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: You bury it, you don't rely on it, and not only that, he's gonna be high to pay for the hefsah that he caused.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: And with that, Zuck'd the Gemarrah.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Ummar Rabbah Barab Barba Khana.
19:39
SPEAKER_00: Bedukin Shaba'ayin, the Kule Amalai Pligi da Usr.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: So it depends what type of mum we're talking about.
19:44
SPEAKER_00: We're going back on the case of the Mishnah where we saw that he shachhted the Bukhar.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: He thought it was a mum, he shachted the Bukhar, and only afterwards he asked the Khachum.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: So he asked the Khahom afterwards, and the Khaqim confirmed it was a mum.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: We have machikas between Remer and Rabiudah.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: Rabiuda says that it's going to be mutter, and then the day the Khachum saw it, you're good to go.
19:59
SPEAKER_00: Remer says, you did it, Shale Piham, Asr.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be Asr completely.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemar says Rabbah Barbachana.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: There's no machlikus Riyuhda and Rameir.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: Bedukin Shaba'i'in the Kulay plight the Asr.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: Even Rabihuda is going to be Maskim, that it's going to be Asr as it relates if the Mum was Beduk and Shaba'ian by the cataract of the eye.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: That's Dukin Shaba'ian.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: The cataract of the eye.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: Ayin Shimon open.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: If you want to know uh exactly what this means, he brought the picture.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: All different types of sheetahs.
20:25
SPEAKER_00: The Dukin Shaba'ian, you know, this came up, yes.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: We had a we had a bet about this, remember?
20:29
SPEAKER_00: This is one of the it was one of the sheetas in the Gemara that by the story of Barkamsa, it was one of the things that uh he brought the karman to the emperor and they put a mum.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: What was the mum?
20:39
SPEAKER_00: So one of the ignorants was Dukin Shema'ain, this thing.
20:42
SPEAKER_00: That for us it's considered a mum.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: For them.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: Why?
20:46
SPEAKER_00: Because it's something that happens then.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: Huh?
20:51
SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: That they put.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: It's a good rhyme.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: No, he took a cushion.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: It says that he he put he made a mum, he's mato mum.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: The gumar says that something for us is a mum, for them is not a mum, and they're he that's why he had time as a being maker, because of it, they didn't realize it was a mum, whatever it is.
21:07
SPEAKER_00: But Dukin Shema'i'in, that was the case.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: So Dukin Shema'a'in, everyone is gonna agree, says Rabbi Barbachana, even Rabbi Huddh that says that if as long as the Chachum confirmed it afterwards, you're good to go.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: Even Rabbi Hudd is gonna agree that if the mum was Dukin Shema'ayan, that is going to be a problem that's gonna be usr, even according to Rabbi Huddha, Kuli Amalai Pliggi.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: Why?
21:23
SPEAKER_00: Mifneh Shehein Mishtaanin.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: Because Dukin Shema'ayan changes by death.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, just because now, after the fact that Chaqhum looked at this dead animal that you shachhted and sees that yeah, it has the Dukin Shema'a'in, doesn't mean it was there before.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: Because Rash says, Agav that tsar that's caused during the Sheitah, that could cause changes in the cataracts of the eye.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, even though now it has the moom after shaitah, it doesn't mean it was there before.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, beforehand, maybe it didn't have a moom.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: And maybe you shachhted a tom a time, and therefore it's gonna be, according to everyone, even a Bihudah that says, as long as the khakh can confirm that afterwards it's gonna be good, even a rihudah is gonna asser it.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: Ibn Shahein Mishhtana, because it changes.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: It says Rabbi Rakana said, Where's the whole machik?
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I'll be mum and shabba goof.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: By a regular mum on the goof, that there's no spar to say that it changed, that it's uh whatever type of mum was there that you clearly see that was there before, as long as the Chachum confirms afterwards, that's where a Yhud is gonna say it's Mutter, and Rameyer is gonna say it's gonna be Asir.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: Why?
22:14
SPEAKER_00: The Rameir sub Gazina Mutt Mum and Shibhuf utto Dukin Shibba'in.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: Rahmeir holds it's a Gzeira.
22:19
SPEAKER_00: Even though you're right, the Chachum confirmed it was 100% a mum afterwards, and therefore, what's the problem?
22:24
SPEAKER_00: Why should Rameir say it's Usr?
22:27
SPEAKER_00: And then the day it's there's a mum, and there's a mum, and he confirms, and this is not a mum that changes, so why should it be a problem?
22:31
SPEAKER_00: Because Rameer makes a gzaira.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: Ghazina and Mum and Shabugov utter Dukin Shabain.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: These Gaiser are a regular mum, that there's no problem up to a case of Dukin Shaba'iin, which actually changes, and there could be a problem.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: Remember, you the suburbicus, remember you the holds that we're not gonna be Gaiser Mum's Shabukuf Author Dukin Shma'in, and that is the machikis according to Rabbi Barbakana.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Again, the whole machelikus from Mayor Rihabud says Rabbi Barbakana, that's only by a mum shabuguf.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: Because that is a machleikis whether you make a Xero or not.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: But as it relates to a Mum of Dukin Shaba'i, and even a Rebuhuda's gonna agree that it's gonna be Ash, because that's a Mum that could change based off the death, and therefore the Khachum has no idea of no way of knowing whether that was there or not.
23:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, after the Shita says the Gmaratana Maya, we actually have a brise for supporting what we just said, supporting the Rabbi Barbachana, Hasheikh is a Bahara Maris Mumai, Mumov, Rabihuda, meaning he first shachts it and then brings it to the Khacham.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: Rabihudah Rebuta says, Biduken Shmain, Osser Mibnesh and Mishtaan.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: Rebutah doesn't make it zero.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: Remera I may make a gzeerozehein mishtan.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: And both are gonna be asked because they change.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: What's the question?
23:31
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean they change?
23:32
SPEAKER_00: Only Dukin Shema'i changes, not all Mumin changes.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: So the Gemara says, Meshain Mishtaan, so gaito.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna tell me they change what a regular mum on its body, uh, mum on the gulf, is gonna change.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, that doesn't change.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: There's uh a lot of movement that are very apparent and obvious movement that they were always there, and therefore they don't necessarily change just because of the depth.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemara, no, Mumin Sh, and that's the question Mumin Sabaguf, me Mishtain, does it change?
23:53
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't change.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: Only the Duke and Shib'a'in changes, and therefore, Elam Ipneh Ham Mishtain.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: You're right, Remer was only a Xero.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: He made a Xero even the Mumen Sabagulf to the Mumen that do change, like the Dukin Shaba'i, the Pne Ham Mishhtan, because of the ones that do change, we're gonna be gazer about all mumin, and that's the Kavanar Nermeir.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: Umr of Nachman Baryatsaq.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: Zokter Vnachman Baryatzlah.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: Masnisa Namideka.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Our Mishnah is actually very meduic that way.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: The way we just explained that Rameir makes it zero.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Remair, oh Ymer, because Rameer said in the Micks.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be Usr.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: Why is it Usr?
24:26
SPEAKER_00: What was the reason Rameer gave?
24:28
SPEAKER_00: Not because it changed, right?
24:30
SPEAKER_00: He didn't say it's Usr because it changed and there's an inherent issue because maybe there wasn't an actual mum before.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: That's not what he said.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: He said it's Usr because Shinishkat Shal Pimumch.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: What's the problem that you didn't ask a Rav?
24:40
SPEAKER_00: That's the problem.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: Meaning, even if really there's no issue, even if the Rav confirms afterwards that there's no issue and it really was a mum.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: It's still gonna be a problem.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Why?
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Hoyal Shhen Vinishkat Shiloya Alpimumcha.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Usr, that's why it's gonna be usr because it wasn't done alpimumcha.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: You didn't do it properly.
24:53
SPEAKER_00: Shma'i, you know, what do we clearly see that it's a kanas?
24:55
SPEAKER_00: Not that there's again, not he didn't say if the reason was because we're really worried that it changed and really wasn't a mum before, say better.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: What?
25:02
SPEAKER_00: It's also because of a knas?
25:04
SPEAKER_00: No, it's also because it might have changed and there wasn't a mum before.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: So from the fact that Rameir said that it was Nishhat Shall Pimumcha, that's why it's usually Shmamy Noah.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: We clearly see that Knaso Kakanas, that he's making a knas across the board.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Rameir, Knosa Kakanas, Ramey, Shma'i, no, we clearly see that.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: So I have the following shahinah they asked the following shah in the base marriage.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, but may I understand that that Rameer makes Gzera, because the Duke in Shaba'iin changes, right?
25:27
SPEAKER_00: It could change.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, just because it has the cataract after the death doesn't mean it was there before.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: So the fact that he makes a xera by all movement because of that, does he mean that all the duken shabain always changes, or sometimes it changes?
25:43
SPEAKER_00: But says, it means that every single time the animal dies it changes.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it changes, and therefore it's not muchak.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it wasn't um before, maybe it was.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: What does it make a nafkumina?
25:59
SPEAKER_00: Right?
25:59
SPEAKER_00: That the Allah is gonna be the same across the board.
26:00
SPEAKER_00: The Hokam's still not gonna know because maybe it changed.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara Nachkumina is la Khush Sahadi.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: The nafkumina would be if we could be makhish eidim and consider them liars for coming in and testifying, let's say that uh you have this animal that had the duk and shabain, and eidim come along and say that it had a duk and shama'in the whole time.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: It had it the entire time, even when it was alive.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: So if you're gonna tell me that every single time it changes, then they're liars.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: It's wrong.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: It can't be what you're saying because it always changes.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: But if only sometimes it changes, then it's they're not necessarily gonna be uh uh you can't necessarily be maqish.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: And that's what the ghana speaks out.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: I am Rit Kulamishani Shakrin, you know, they're liars.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna tell me it's something that only happens sometimes in some china, we could be SayMachana Mai.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: So again, what's the what's the Matsia?
26:45
SPEAKER_00: Is it always changed, or this is something that sometimes changes?
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Tal Shma bring you a riat, Umar Rabbi Rahana Sakhli R Byash the Minusha.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: Byash the Minusha told me, he told me once like this, come and I'll show you a certain case about Dukin that actually changed after the death.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: So what's the ray?
27:02
SPEAKER_00: The riah is me the kaum alai bove arach.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: And the fact that he said, Come and I'll show you.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: So obviously there's something in the khiddle going on over here.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: That this is one of the times that it's changing, but mechlaad the mistani make it lame.
27:14
SPEAKER_00: It's makhlah that it doesn't happen all the time.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: Because if there's something that happens obviously every time, then there's nothing to really show him.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Because this is a Metsias that this happens every time.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: So from the fact that he's showing him special look, I'll show you when it changes.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, there's something that doesn't happen all the time, and it happens sometimes.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: And if you want to answer the question of the Maya Nath Kimina, the answer would be that you could rely on the aidim, and then you can't necessarily be makchisham, it's not chakrin in it, because again, sometimes it changes, so you could rely on what they say.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: It says the gimmar.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: Mesha in a mumch, the bhar, Vinishkalapiv, Harezei Kavar, Vishhalambi Basa.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: The next alakha the Mishnah said was if someone was not uh Bar Samcha, he wasn't supposed to be paskining over here, he's not a mumcha.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: And he saw the Bihar and he paskined about the Bukhar that it's a mum.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: Vinish khabiv and they listen to him and they shachhted it because based off what he said, Harezei Kabar, the aloha is that you have to bury it.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: So Vishalambi Basin, not only that, he's going to be high to pay for it since he paskin when he wasn't supposed to.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: So Lamatan's stomach are a mair.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Let's say that this Mishnah is a clear stam like Remair.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: Stam Mishnah or Rameir anyways, but let's say this Stam Mishnah is Rameir.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: Why?
28:14
SPEAKER_00: Like Remair Sheetah.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: That he said any mum is gonna be a problem, the khab, because it sounds like the achun that paskin, or a chokhum that wasn't supposed to paskin that paskin about any mum across the board, sounds like it's gonna be a problem.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: You bury it across the board.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Sounds like that stomal or a mare that makes it knace across the board.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter what type of mum, right?
28:29
SPEAKER_00: Because what would Rabydah tell you in a case of uh a mum baguf?
28:33
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna tell you that it's mutter.
28:35
SPEAKER_00: You see it and Matias, it's okay after it, you're good to go.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: It's only a problem according to Rabiuda by Dukin Shma'ayan.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemara, that that we have a Mishnah that seems to say it across the board.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Let's say that it's stomacharmah, says Gemara, no, the Bakukin Shema'i'a and Divri'akal.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's talking about specifically the mum of Dukin Shima'ayan and Diviral Call, it can really go according to even Urbihuda.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: What's Divriakal?
28:54
SPEAKER_00: Even Urbihuda that says that by Dukan Shema'ayan, at least he agrees that it's gonna be Asir.
28:59
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara Tana.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: Shuma Shalim, when this Dayan has to pay, right?
29:03
SPEAKER_00: Because he posk and he wasn't supposed to pask and pasquinally incorrectly.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: So, Shumah Hashalim, when he pays, what does he have to pay?
29:08
SPEAKER_00: Mashalim revealed a Daka, Um Machza L Gasa.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: He has to pay a fourth of the value for a Behemoth Daka that he caused uh to be buried, um machzilagasa, and half the value of a behemoth.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: What's the pshat over here?
29:20
SPEAKER_00: A quarter, half, so the pshat is that really rashly explains because this is mum and amut al-basaf.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: And we know that Allah the Mum Amuta Basafik, anytime you have a suffic about mum and whether it's owed, you're gonna be chaliket.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: Now, why is this mum and a mut al-basaf?
29:31
SPEAKER_00: Because we have two options over here.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: This animal maybe really had a mum.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: If it really had a mum, then you caused a hundred percent hefid because he could have eaten it.
29:39
SPEAKER_00: Maybe this animal didn't really have a mum.
29:41
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it wouldn't have ever developed a mum and it would have just died, and therefore this person wouldn't have enjoyed anything from it ever.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, maybe he wouldn't have gotten anything.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: Maybe he would have, maybe it was a mum and he would have gotten all of it.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: So that's mummon amo-basavik, because now you caused it to be buried across the board.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: But it was only a 50% chance that this person would bichhlal enjoy from the animal.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: And that's why it's Mammonamatobisavik Hulkin.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so why reveal?
30:02
SPEAKER_00: Why a fourth?
30:03
SPEAKER_00: So that's what the Gemara is gonna explain.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: So it says the Gemara.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: So we said for a behemothaka, revivah and for a behemoth mach's.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: We understand mechsa, but why reviah for behamah dhaka?
30:13
SPEAKER_00: says the Gemara, my time.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: What's the reason that you pay a reviva for a behemothaka?
30:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm a repair, a papa says, Zefsan marubah is ahefs and mu'habah, because then today the behama gasa is a lot of hefsid, right?
30:21
SPEAKER_00: It's behama gasa, that's why you pay half.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: But revivah for a behemothaka because it's not a lot of hefs.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: The Gemara asks the obvious question.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: If so, you should pay according to what you made him lose out.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: Meaning of half of a behemothaka is gonna be less than half of a behemoth.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: So what do you mean?
30:35
SPEAKER_00: It's a hefsan marubah, half san mu'it.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay, it's uh everything's relative.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, Omara Funamarnaikh Mishmaidhara of Ahabar Ika, Mishum Gzairas Megadah the Behemadaka Nagabuh.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: That really what's going on over here is because of a gezeira.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: Gezeira fits only if you go with the second version of Rashi, we're gonna see in a second, but gezeiras megadda behemadaka nagabu.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: That because of the gezera of behavior megadha behemadaka, that it was very hard, the first wash of rashi, it's a very it was very intensive and hard to uh raise a behemothaka.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: It takes a lot more raising or whatever it is, and therefore, as soon as you killed it or caused it to be buried, all of a sudden you saved so much tirha for this guy that with all the investment he was gonna have to make into this animal, you saved all of that.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: So not only is it uh Muhammad about 50% of the value that you're gonna have to pay, what about all this money you saved them for growing the animal?
31:21
SPEAKER_00: That's why you're gonna have to only pay a rivia, that's first channelashi, second shadarashi sounds a little bit more like the words that the ghazar megad the behemadaka, that we know the human were gizer on someone to not be Megadal Behemadaka and Erethisra.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: You're not allowed to be uh Megadal Behemadakh in Artisra, you're considered a goslin because it's automatic that you're gonna eat from other people's fields.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: I think that's one of the reasons.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: But either way, that uh it's a gazer that you're not allowed to be Megadal Behemadaka.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: So, what?
31:43
SPEAKER_00: You cause someone to lose the behemothaka, maych taste you're being Megadal Behemadaka anyways in Aerithral, you're not allowed to do such a thing, so therefore you're not gonna get half, like you're owed, really moment of the Busafic, you're only gonna get a ravia because you're not doing something properly, anyways.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: I get to chavez, we'll hold it over there.