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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers Blame · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just speaking offensively. I think defense played well, gave
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: us a chance enough to win. I just think we just,
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of shot ourselves in the foot on
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: some opportunities. You know, we've got to be better in
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: the pass game. We've got to pick up lessons, you
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? We've got to protect better. That's
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: what it is. We've got to look at it and
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: see what we can do better, man. Look at it
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: and see what we can do better.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Robert Hunt, man enough to step up and speak last night,
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: but he didn't have any dang answers other than we
• 0:50
  Speaker 3: got to be better.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: And I think we all both could see that for
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: our eyes. What a brutal.
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: Offensive performance last night. It was a miracle we got
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: to 19 points. Should have been 20. More on that later.
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: But we now have to vent, ladies and gentlemen. And
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: we've been venting for the first 40 minutes of the show.
• 1:13
  Speaker 3: Took a brief respite to tell you what's coming up
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: in sports in the Couch Potato Guide. You can start
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: your venting engines again now, Boney. And the offense was
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: ridiculously hard to watch last night.
• 1:26
  Speaker 4: I know that it's not all the guys that were
• 1:29
  Speaker 4: out there last night, but it is the highest paid
• 1:31
  Speaker 4: offensive line in the NFL. So not, you know, Moten's out, Lewis,
• 1:35
  Speaker 4: but yeah, there are guys that are out, but they have,
• 1:37
  Speaker 4: but they've still heavily invested in the offensive line and
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: money and draft choices. and it's just horrible to watch.
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go out in a limbo. Freddy Krueger
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: thinks it's hard to watch. I'm going to go out
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: in a limbo. That's the scariest thing y'all are going
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: to see this Halloween.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: I know Bryce.
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: Ain't nobody going to scare Bryce tomorrow night near as
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: bad as he's been scared in the pocket the last
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: two games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just said it, though, Bone.
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the highest paid offensive line, but three of
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: the high paid guys... did not play last night. And
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: one of them hasn't played all season in Icky. Another
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: one in Moten hasn't played but two games. So that's,
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: that context has to be thrown in there. There's no
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: doubt about it. With that said, it's brutal. And Brad
• 2:22
  Speaker 3: Enzi's going to have to scramble and try to come
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: up with some way to scheme around it. I, I,
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: I like the way they tried to come out running
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: the football. I like the quick passing game that they
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: used at times. But when you're no threat whatsoever, Bone,
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: to go downfield because there is no time to throw
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: the ball downfield and because they're getting pressure with three-
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: and four-man rushes and can drop guys back into coverage,
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: how many replay clips did they show where the coverage
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: is back there taking everything away?
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: From 10 yards beyond.
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  Speaker 3: So as a result, Bryce young gets sacked six times,
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  Speaker 3: but he also has only one completion of 10 yards
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  Speaker 3: or more downfield. And the way the season started bone
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: in his first five games, he was one of the
• 3:07
  Speaker 3: best in the league at completing passes, 10 or more
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  Speaker 3: yards downfield.
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  Speaker 2: So it's freaking ugly.
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  Speaker 3: And it's so ugly bone that you legit, I legitimately
• 3:17
  Speaker 3: find myself asking, is this something that just can't get
• 3:21
  Speaker 3: any better? Like, Rasheed Walker's playing so badly. Monroe Freeling
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: got abused last night. Luke Fortner is struggling. Like, is
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: there any way to turn this around? Are we just
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: going to see this every damn week?
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  Speaker 4: Remember how much praise, Mac, we gave in recent years
• 3:39
  Speaker 4: to how good the offensive line coaching was. So I
• 3:42
  Speaker 4: know people are pointing to coaching, but we praised the
• 3:44
  Speaker 4: hell out of the job they did in the past.
• 3:47
  Speaker 4: This year's just completely falling apart. Mac, we have a
• 3:50
  Speaker 4: text here from Woodlebop. Bebop's daughter. Uh-oh, yeah. Y'all better
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: put on your seatbelts this morning. Bebop is off his
• 3:57
  Speaker 4: leash and has been warming up his thumbs this morning.
• 4:00
  Speaker 4: The Panthers gave him tons of material for today. They lost,
• 4:04
  Speaker 4: probably struggled. Prepare for impact. So I asked Mac, how
• 4:07
  Speaker 4: do you handle your father? What's the advice? Are you
• 4:10
  Speaker 4: ready for this, Mac? Honestly, talking about him amps him
• 4:14
  Speaker 4: up even more. He records whatever his name is brought
• 4:18
  Speaker 4: up on the air and sends it to the family
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  Speaker 4: group chat every single day.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: All of you that said we're feeding the trolls too much,
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: we got to stop feeding Bob.
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  Speaker 2: He records the show on his phone.
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  Speaker 3: This dude's walking on sunshine because we're whining about him, man.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: He's winning. This is a good tip here.
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: She also says tell him to focus on work so
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: he can retire instead.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: Of texting a dang radio show. I tell him every
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  Speaker 2: day to go to work.
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  Speaker 3: To work and that like clockwork speaking of trolls tampa
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: tammy shows up outside the damn studio holy crap this
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: is a nightmare on midstream by the way i'm convinced
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: tampa tammy could get two sacks opposite rashid walker if
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  Speaker 3: she was if she lined up at pass.
• 4:58
  Speaker 4: Rusher clemson's on the phone they want to talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: For my god all right anyway so I it's, it's
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  Speaker 3: very hard bone to blame anything outside of she's giving
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: us L's again. It's very, we got to accept your L's. It's,
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  Speaker 3: it's very hard to blame anything bone outside of the
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  Speaker 3: offensive line and the situation or offensive lines in the
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: cornerback injuries too. You're down to your fifth, sixth and
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  Speaker 3: seventh corners. And you're trying to go against Jordan love
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  Speaker 3: and those two wide receivers. It's, it's very hard not
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: to start in those two areas.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's no doubt. Yeah. And we said when
• 5:35
  Speaker 4: the show began, it's yes. On Sunday in the Monday show,
• 5:40
  Speaker 4: the defense was the story. It was horrible. It was awful.
• 5:44
  Speaker 4: There was no way around that. I didn't go into
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  Speaker 4: this game back with the defense. corners that were out
• 5:50
  Speaker 4: with the way that Green Bay plays. I didn't go
• 5:52
  Speaker 4: in here thinking, Oh my God, this is a good
• 5:54
  Speaker 4: spot for the defense. I knew that Watson was going
• 5:57
  Speaker 4: to have a huge day. I didn't know he was
• 5:59
  Speaker 4: going to leave in an ambulance and come back. Like
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: he was on Monday night raw back in 1999, but,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see that happening. But the defense having problems
• 6:07
  Speaker 4: with what's out there, losing willy during the game, that's
• 6:10
  Speaker 4: not shocking that Green Bay scored points. The fact that
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: the offense stalled out and the offensive line was as
• 6:16
  Speaker 4: bad as they were for most of the game, that
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  Speaker 4: to me. So we've got the defense from Sunday. We
• 6:22
  Speaker 4: got the offense yesterday. It has been one long week
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  Speaker 4: of football hell.
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: I can't believe we have to do another one of
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  Speaker 3: these miserable shows within the same dang week. Thank you, Panthers.
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: As far as the O-line bone, 47%— At least Todd
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: Reed gave us a break yesterday. 47% pressures allowed by
• 6:40
  Speaker 3: the O-line. Six sacks. It's 11 sacks in the last
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: two games. I said this earlier. The craziest thing about
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: it is— and they did blitz a fair amount once they
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: smelled blood in the water. But the craziest part about
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: it is five of the six sacks, Bone, were without
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: a blitz. Hell, one of them was a damn three-man rush. We—
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: on Sunday, we gave up five sacks. All of them
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: were without the blitz. They're not even needing the blitz
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: to get home and to sack Bryce. Bryce looks shell-shocked
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  Speaker 3: at times. He doesn't look near the same trying to
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: escape the pressure. Brad Idzik really seemed like a coordinator
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: that had very few answers last night, Boney. It's just,
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  Speaker 3: I just fear for this offense moving forward. Thank God
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: for Chuba Hubbard, man. He was the one consistent in
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  Speaker 3: the game yesterday on offense.
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: That was it.
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  Speaker 4: And for anyone that's complained about Icky, Icky's making himself
• 7:36
  Speaker 4: some money here, as Kyle Bailey tweeted out last night.
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  Speaker 4: Icky might be one of the MVPs of this team
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  Speaker 4: and not play it down this year. I mean, my God,
• 7:44
  Speaker 4: do we miss Icky? Even someone tweeted out last night,
• 7:47
  Speaker 4: can Stone Forsythe be that bad?
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  Speaker 3: We're getting a lot of ideas here of what to
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: do with the offensive line. DVR Dave wants Sam Heck
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: to start at center and Fortner to replace Hunt at
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  Speaker 3: right guard.
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  Speaker 2: Fortner is a huge problem in his own right.
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  Speaker 4: Did we not see him get steamrolled the first drive
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  Speaker 4: last night?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I saw him. It wasn't just one drive.
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  Speaker 2: I saw him.
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  Speaker 3: He gave up three or four pressures, at least himself
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  Speaker 3: as well, not to mention the run blocking issues with him.
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  Speaker 3: But I think Willie P's shout about Brady Christensen is
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  Speaker 3: one worth trying. Hey, guys, but they clearly don't value
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: Brady Christensen like the fans do.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, they don't. They bring him back, but
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: they keep bringing him back, but we're not sure what
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  Speaker 4: exactly they are using him for.
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's healthy, and they haven't activated him off IR,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't know if that'll change. Welcome Down says,
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  Speaker 3: the pocket collapses right when Bryce drops back. I can't
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: blame him. John said, Mac just said it. Bryce Young
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  Speaker 3: mentally is not handling this situation. But like walk them
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  Speaker 3: down said though, it's hard. It has to be mentioned
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  Speaker 3: because Bryce handled pressure so well bone early in the season.
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  Speaker 3: It does need to be mentioned that this looks more
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  Speaker 3: like under pressure Bryce from early in his career, but
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  Speaker 3: it also needs to be said that It's hard to
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  Speaker 3: just scream at him this morning.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's just under siege. You've got a perfect
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  Speaker 4: storm of problems here. You've got the offensive line injuries.
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  Speaker 4: You've got guys just not playing well. You have Bryce
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  Speaker 4: Mack where something's bothering him physically. He's mentally damaged in
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: the moment because of the offensive line. And oh, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, we're at the point in the season where
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: the film is out there now and teams have adjusted
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  Speaker 4: to what the Panthers offense that was clicking earlier is doing.
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  Speaker 4: Now the Panthers have to figure out a way to
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  Speaker 4: counter back. But if the offensive line is that bad,
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: how do you counter back if you can't even get
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  Speaker 4: plays off? These are the questions that will keep the
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: coaches up at night and probably all of us. Papa
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  Speaker 4: John's 50% says you cannot say you were. I thought
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: you were doing a promo. for me.
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  Speaker 2: No, I got nothing for you.
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: I thought all of a sudden you were Papa John's
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: promotional guy.
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: That's a weird text name, but that's the guy's... I
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: don't know. He's probably a Papa John's manager planting the
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: seed and everybody will buy Papa John's pizza. But anyway,
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: he says you cannot say that you were surprised that
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: the offensive line got destroyed last night. We're down three
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: starters and our third best left tackle... to help out
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: the right side, and our center is trash. When four
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: of your five starting line have issues, it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be a good day. No, we knew we were
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: worried about it coming in. I will say this, though.
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: Can we not talk about what Brad Idsit can possibly do?
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: Because Fitty and I each, I thought, gave suggestions that
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: are worthwhile in the first hour of the show. I
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: want to move the pocket more. I want to move
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young more. I think they tried the quick passing game.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: I think they tried to run it. These were suggestions
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: that I had yesterday before the game. I'd like to
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: see them move Bryce more. And Fitty brought up a
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: good point. And I'll have to watch for it on
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: a rewatch. But, like, you brought up Fitty. Like, how
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: much help were they giving? These tackles clearly got their
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  Speaker 3: asses kicked. Next Gen Stats had the tackles giving up
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: four of the six sacks and 13 of the 22
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: total pressures. But I think you brought up a good point.
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know which one you're getting help for. I
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: guess Rasheed Walker.
• 11:22
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're asking for?
• 11:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the problem is, Mac, is they both need help,
• 11:26
  Speaker 6: but you can't afford to be in 13 personnel every
• 11:29
  Speaker 6: time that you take the field. I mean, we use
• 11:31
  Speaker 6: it more, and I know that's a trend in the league,
• 11:34
  Speaker 6: but you can't always give both of your tackles help.
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  Speaker 2: Then you're sending two out in the route, I guess?
• 11:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, which just.
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  Speaker 6: Really limits what you're going to be able to do
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  Speaker 6: to get in the football to the guys you want
• 11:43
  Speaker 6: to get the football to. To me, it's also like
• 11:45
  Speaker 6: the mobile pocket thing. We just need to get Bryce moving.
• 11:50
  Speaker 6: Mackie's standing back there, and he's like a wounded duck.
• 11:53
  Speaker 6: He's just waiting for something bad to happen because none
• 11:55
  Speaker 6: of his guys can block. And then the RPO game,
• 11:58
  Speaker 6: they went to that on the second drive. But how
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: many balls are getting batted down? And not to me
• 12:03
  Speaker 6: because Bryce is small. Not because he can't stand in
• 12:06
  Speaker 6: the pocket and make the throws. We can't hold our
• 12:08
  Speaker 6: blocks long enough to not allow the defensive linemen to
• 12:11
  Speaker 6: get their hands up to impact the passing game that way.
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  Speaker 4: He could be Wemby back there and he didn't have
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  Speaker 4: time to throw the ball.
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  Speaker 2: No, but the batted down thing is happening.
• 12:19
  Speaker 5: It does.
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  Speaker 3: I venture to say this is the most batted passes
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: in a season, I would think.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's not a Baker Mayfield's first few starts.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about Bryce.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: Oh. I'm talking about Bryce himself because everybody said, oh,
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: he's going to get passes batted down. Everybody's going to
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: be like Mutombo. It hadn't really happened. This year it's
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: been a problem, but yeah. It's not back to the
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: drawing board bad, Mac, but this bye week, this mini
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: bye week, the benefit of losing on a Thursday is
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: you've got 10 days to prepare. Like it has to be,
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: you don't think they got to go back to the
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: drawing board. I don't think it's that bad. Like you
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: have things that you can do.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: Well, are you kidding me?
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: The, I'll have things that you can do. Well, the offense, Brad, it's,
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: it needs to live at the drawing board. Like this
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: is a, this is a state of emergency.
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  Speaker 2: This offense is an absolute bleep show.
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  Speaker 7: They better not leave the freaking facility.
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: Whenever they land back in Lambeau, tell the wife and kids,
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: Happy Halloween, Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas. We're not leaving until
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: this sorry-ass offensive line figures it out.
• 13:19
  Speaker 6: We're not leaving until we can be able to run
• 13:21
  Speaker 6: the ball the way we need to run the football.
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: So you went from don't go the drawing board to
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: don't leave the drawing board.
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  Speaker 6: I was trying not to be that guy, but now
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: it's time to be that.
• 13:30
  Speaker 7: Guy because, Mac, let's just put it... Their season's on
• 13:33
  Speaker 7: the line.
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: You get mad at Belichick in April when he goes
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: on vacation.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: It's an unmitigated disaster. I cannot imagine. Is this the
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: worst offensive line play in the history of the franchise?
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: And that's saying something.
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  Speaker 7: That 2010 line was pretty bad, too.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: It was, but I would nominate these guys to be
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: in the discussion. It is that horrible. And I get it,
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: there's injuries, and we'll have the conversation later today.
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  Speaker 2: This is the blame conversation.
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  Speaker 3: We will then start to add context as the show
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: goes on and discuss, is it just injuries? Is it
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: just shrug your shoulders and we're too injured at certain positions?
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: Or.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Is that a cop out? You know, we'll have that conversation.
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: You better be at the drawing board when your next
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: opponent is check my notes, the Denver Broncos. Not exactly
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: a team that is easy to go against defensively here.
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: I was just trying to stay a little positive, a
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: little optimistic.
• 14:25
  Speaker 7: And Mac said, you know what? Lush that.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: The best part though, Finney, is you said, okay, if
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: we're doing that, let me just rip them and do
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: my thing where I tell the coaches they can't leave
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: the stadium.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. God bless you, Fitty. You are treasure, Fitty.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: We got a texter that says the 50% off pizza
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: deal is 50% off every time the Panthers give up
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: five sacks or more.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're going to be eating pizza, maybe. I don't
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: think a business could survive that bone in Charlotte.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: This dude says the offensive line stuff is overstating it.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Cam Newton had way worse offensive lines than this. Is
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: this a mitts burner? There's definitely one of them.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Listen, man, we can rank to your blue in the face.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: We've had rough offensive line play sporadically throughout this franchise's history.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I just know, man, it is going to take a
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: You can try to scheme around this bone, but if
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: they keep playing like this and you brought up some
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: of the defenses they're going to go against, including Denver
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: next week, I mean, there's only so much that can
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: be done.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: I'm already having nightmares about them playing Minnesota and Brian
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: Flores down the line. I don't want to get too
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: far ahead of ourselves, but that... No need for the
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: drawing board, though, Mac, when you're facing those teams. Just
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: go in there and do what you do. Go in
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: there and do what you do. Oh, my God.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: So let's see what else people are saying here. You've
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: got Jerry from Harrisburg. Go ahead and flush the season
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: while you're at it. 7-0-4. Lost season. Yeah, that's going
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: to be part of the conversation today, too, is is
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: it just too much to overcome? I keep saying to myself,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: we're in the South, though. We're in the NFC South.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Just keep saying it. We're in the South. We're in
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: the South. I'm clicking my heels together. But there's no
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: place like the NFC South. But I don't know. I
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: don't know, Bone, if even that matters. Can we even
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: win the South like this?
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: No, because if we follow the yellow brick road, Bryce
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: will probably, you know, not have the right protection to
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: get thrown off the yellow brick road. He'll get sandwiched
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: by some big old... Defensive player on the Elbert Grove?
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I'm convinced Dorothy and Toto would each have two sacks
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: if they played against the Panthers' offensive line. John says, oh,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: the Bryce Young excuse parade today. Why can't you just
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: say he can't handle good defenses? Yeah, because it was
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: all his fault. He had so much time in the
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: pocket to heave the ball down the field last night.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: He had so much time.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: He missed a lot of open receivers out there last
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: night that were just wide open in his 0.4 seconds
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: in the pocket last night. If you don't see that
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: the offensive line is a problem, I suggest LensCrafters for
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: your eye needs. And that's not an endorsement by me.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: That's just a general statement. I don't endorse LensCrafters.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: MoreAppHate says, are we going to have a convo about
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: a Bryce extension? Only beaten one starting quarterback. We are
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: going to have convos about Bryce extension.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Extensions. It has to be had. There's no doubt about it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Is he losing money? I mean, What level would he
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: be on?
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: Breaking news.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio talks about quarterback contracts.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: That's probably a.
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: Good thing, though, because we need to invest more in
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: this offensive line.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: So you want Bryce to keep sucking? Well, no.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: I still want him to get his contract, but maybe
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: we're back down that $ 40 million range back as opposed
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: to $ 55- 60 because.
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: Dano's got to pay more offensive linemen this offseason.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. I would point to the draft.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: KB and I were talking about this last night on
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the pregame show. I think it could be first-round tackle again.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I think it could be second-round guard again. Like, I just,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: this old line, you can't bring Rob Hunt back at
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: that number. Everybody's saying, this dude's saying, give Icky the farm.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I think Icky will probably have to sign a one-year
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: prove-it deal.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: And let's not forget, he's also coming off a major
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: injury himself here.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But at that point, Bone, he would have almost two years, right?
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: But I'm still saying, though, he's got to come back
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: from that and prove what he is.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, will he get a chance this
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: year to come back and prove anything? Or will it
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: be until next year?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: There's a full load of O-line questions, no doubt.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Out icky how you feeling well i'm at about 40 great.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Get on out there baby that you know what that
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: is and icky that is three times as good as
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: rashid walker get on out there guys i'm not ready
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: sure you are how the heck did rashid walker keep
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: that starting job in green bay for three years.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Man we got okey-doke on that well hey look at
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: this guy he's he's up for a big contract and
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: he fell right in our laps well now we know why.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: But the packers never benched him Like that was a
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: functioning offense.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: So how the hell did he hold that?
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: How did he, how on earth was he ranked 11th
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: in past block win rate last year?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I don't have the answer. We just never quote that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: stat again.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I just, or did he play so much better there
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: than he played here?
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: And if so, why?
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: You know, these are the questions bone that I don't
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: know if they have any answers, but I'm asking them anyway.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: When we come back, Lee Sterling, paramountsports.com. He's got his
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: picks for the week next back. Here's the good news
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: for this. He doesn't have to pick a Panther game
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: this week. That's already over. When he's next, Sports Radio
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Kumbaya, my lord. Kumbaya.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Bone, the rage-baiting all-stars are putting on a show this morning.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, Charlotte's rage-baiting all-stars. And they
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: got the thumbs moving this morning, man.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Somebody go pull something.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Starting at guard in his ninth all-star appearance. Amit.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Amit, like, and again, at some point we need to
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: like have nuanced conversations with real people and not like
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: rage baiting, like folks playing characters on the text line.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: But at the risk of not doing that right now,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Amit with a straight face, I assume, is texting us.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: And you said he was saying the same thing on
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Twitter last night, saying that what's going on with the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: pressure is 100% Bryce Young's fault and the O-line is fine.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: That O-line is about as far from fine as anything
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: has been. I'm telling you. I'm telling you right now,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: like that right there, a minute, like put the phone down,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: like never, we should never listen to him again because
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: that is just, that's, that is just disingenuous rage baiting.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta be kidding me.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: You had me at never listen to him again, but
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I would like to listen to Lee Sterling of ParamountSports.com.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Look at Bones segwaying away for the rage baiting all-star game.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: All right, let's do it. Let's bring in a man
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: who is not here to make you upset. He is
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: here to make you money. That's what he's here to do.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: and certainly his picks, including the Game of the Week,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: his picks on ParamountSports.com, including the Florida State Clemson Game
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: of the Week, are the ones that he really wants
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you to take and make money. Let's talk about games
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: of local interest with Lee. Lee, welcome back to the show.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: We are in disarray after last night's game, sir.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: I can bet. I tried to give you guys a
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: little bit of a cushion on the fall down. If
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: you listen to my Locked On Bets podcast, daily show
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Monday through Friday, I had the Packers. I didn't get
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: a whole lot of joy out of picking the Panther
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: against the Panthers, but just thought it was a bad setup.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, Green Bay, the last time they played on
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Thursday night against Atlanta got whipped. And I thought that,
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: you know, they were going to be ready for this
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: game and the matchups and the offensive line for Carolina
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: did blocking. Wasn't even optional. I mean, if I was
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: the head coach and, I would make them come into
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: my office if they want to get their paycheck for
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: that game.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And I would say, if you can get through these
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: live Panthers in my office, the paycheck's right on the
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: other side of them.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Good luck.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: They basically could have played without an offensive line last
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: night and had the same results.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I feel sorry for Bryce Young.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Luckily, I was on very good teams. I don't think
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I ever had a game... Where was he sacked? Five
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: or six times last night?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Six last night, five on Sunday.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Never that bad in any one game. So I'd love
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: to commiserate with him, but I just can't do it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Never had a line that bad in one game.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: You had some good big uglies in front of you.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about some of these games. We'll start on
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: the college side. Bone was talking about earlier that this
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: is an interesting game. Boston College is playing some pretty
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: good ball today. the last couple of weeks in wins
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: over Pitt and Georgia tech. So to see Duke and
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: it is at home, but as a seven or even
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: some places, seven and a half point favorite, like I
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: like Duke, but that BC points is kind of tempting.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. BC quarterback, Mason McKenzie is a winner, plain and
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: simple playmaker. The kid just doesn't give up. Is he
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: an NFL quarterback? No, probably not, but he gets the
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: job done and he's going to find a way to
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: keep his team in it. And, If they give him
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: enough time to throw the football and his receivers and
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: running backs comply, I think they're going to be there.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: The Eagles have won two straight, are improved. They are
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: a middling ACC team. They've struggled to stop the run,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: and we know that's all Duke is pretty much going
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: to do. But how healthy is Nate Shepard here? I mean,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: we've seen declining production now in five straight games. Both
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: teams are statistically sound against the pass, so This has
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: the makings for some ugliness. I think Duke wins here, 26-23,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: but I'm picking Boston College in the points.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Lee, another ACC game tomorrow, the red-hot Wake Forest Demon
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Deacons hosting Virginia. Wake, 12.5-point favorites. What's the right side
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: in this one?
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: So, Wake right now is flat out better than Virginia.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Their skill positions, quarterback Gio Lopez sitting– with a, I'm
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: going to say, a sterling 17-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio. They have
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: extra rest. I think they have better schemes here. Wake
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: continues on its path to the ACC championship game here.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Virginia has lost two road games by 10 and 31 points.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Their neutral side game they lost by 11. In the
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: last month, UVA offense, only 12 points per game in
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: the three ACC losses. And Bo Probilla, just 171 passing
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: yards per game and 23 rushing yards per game. He
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: is not 100% healthy. And until Tony Elliott replaces Probilla
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: with Eli Holstein, it's pretty unlikely they're going to improve
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: or compete here. Wake 6-1 straight up and 5-2 against
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: the spread. Wake wins easy again here. Blowout special. Wake 41-20.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I got to turn my mic on to do radio.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: There you go, Deke fans. There you go, Deke fans.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you on that one.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Miami against UNC, your Canes number one in the country,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: rolling into Chapel Hill, an ABC primetime game. This point
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: spread to me is very tempting to take Miami. If
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Miami explodes like they usually do, I don't see how
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the heck Carolina stays in touch. It's 14 and a
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: half for Miami on the road.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: So I think Miami's good, but every team has weaknesses.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: And the weaknesses Miami has is they commit a lot
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: of penalties. And the best teams, when you win championships,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: usually do it with defense. As great as offenses are,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: NFL and college football, you've got to play defense. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: think their defense is above average but not great. It
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: might get better. They're starting to get some players back.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: But they're committing an average of like 10.8 penalties per game.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: You're not going to go into Notre Dame and beat
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Notre Dame committing 10 to 12 penalties. So I think
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: that's a problem here. I think as long as Billy
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Edwards isn't two or three touchdowns behind, he's fine. I mean,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: he played at Maryland, Wisconsin. You look at his whole
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: body of work. But when he falls behind, it's trouble.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Bill Belichick, I think, is going to try. You can't
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: take away Tony. No way. I mean, he's that good.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: He's unguardable one-on-one. So I think he's going to bracket
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: it and double-team him. almost on every single play, but
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: they're going to throw different looks at Miami, and I
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: think as a night game on the road, I think
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Miami's going to struggle a little bit. I've seen games
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: there where it didn't go well, where they lost, where
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: they had to pull it out late in the game here.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: I think Miami wins 35-24, but I think the right
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: side here is take North Carolina in the 14 and
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: a half.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Dang!
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: How about that?
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: How about that? A cover fit, daddy! He thinks y'all
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: are covering, baby!
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: How about that? Lee, a fascinating matchup in the NFC
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: on Sunday. Really, I mean, with the Jeffrey Simmons addition
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: to the Bears the rest of the way after this week,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Seahawks-Bears could be an NFC championship preview. Seahawks favored by three.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: What's the right play here?
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that the Seahawks are going to be
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: a tough out. I think that they're running back away
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: that close to being as good as last year. So
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: they ended up getting Quentin Nelson, maybe one of the
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: best running back. I mean, one of the best offensive linemen.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I think that's going to help them think that this team,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: this defense is special. Tough place to play. Zach Charbonneau
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: is going to be back for this game. So we're
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: going to see how he does. I don't think he's
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: the final answer at running back, but Good complementary piece.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: He's coming off a knee injury, so he'll probably be
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: on a pitch cap. But what separates them also, besides
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: their defense, is special teams. Michael Dixon, punter, incredible. I mean,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: the way he drops that ball inside the 10-yard line
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: like no one else. And their place kicker, Jason Myers,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: pretty much money inside 60 yards here. The right team
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: is favored here, Seattle, 23-13.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: All right, Lee, let's get to an NFC South battle.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm rooting. I guess we should root bone
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: for the Bucs. If the Bucs beat the Falcons, then
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: the Panthers have a half game lead still in the division.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: So I guess I'm rooting for that. I'm not sure
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: it matters with this O-line.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: We are the hand coming up from the ground on
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: this Halloween weekend.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: What do you think, Lee? Bucs are favored by two
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: against Atlanta. What's your feelings?
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: So Baker Mayfield holds grudges and still mad at Kevin Stefanski,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: hasn't talked to him in over five years since he
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: was traded away. So that, I think, plays into this
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: game here. also Atlanta's first four games the run D
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: faced only 21 22 9 and 18 running plays since
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: then 35 and 33 rushes here and uh given up
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: a lot of yards given up over 5.8 yards per
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: carry uh during that time so I think Tampa Bay's
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: going to find a way. Their defense also coming on.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I think they win this game here 23-20. Not going
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: to be easy, but I think Tampa Bay's the right side.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: And let me give you a little advice for offensive
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: linemen that don't block. I did say this to one
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: of my linemen one time when he ducked when he
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: was facing a former future Miami offensive lineman he wanted
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: to know part of. I said, listen. Do one thing.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: If you're not willing to block him, lay down, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: he might trip over you.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You know what? We're going to pass that along here locally, Lee.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: We're going to pass that advice along locally.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Lee, you've been sizzling like bacon on your player props.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: You had Kenneth Walker under last week. You've not missed
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: one yet since we started this. Give us a player
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: prop this week, if you don't mind.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, player prop is going to be Patrick Mahomes over
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: 13 and a half rushing yards. So here's the thinking
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: behind this player prop. Denver's pass rush comes from the edges.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Great edge rushers, defensive ends. They blitz cornerbacks a lot.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: So he needs to step up in the pocket. Now,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: the first game, he did go over it, believe it
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: or not, even though they're running the football like crazy
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: with Kenneth Walker. So he has been over four times
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: that rushing total. I think he's fine if you look
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: at his knee. His receiver is just getting no separation.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I think they're going to tell him Patrick. We lost
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: last week. We need a win here. It's an interdivision game.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: We're 5-1. Denver's 5-2. Just step up in the pocket.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: If you find your second guy, fine. If not, take off.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Get us the first down. So Patrick Mahomes, over 13.5
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: rushing yards. That's a lock.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: There you go, baby. There you go. People are asking
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: for the props. They get them.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: So now we do have some fans that are like, hey,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I want to hear what Lee thinks about Florida State
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: and Clemson.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Well, that happens to be your game of the week.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: So tell them how they can get that one. And
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: then I know you got a big card this weekend
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: as well. So tell them what they need to know, Lee,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: for your picks.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Both these coaches are on the hot seat, Florida State
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: and Clemson. So you want to find out who's going
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: to take this game. Just be one of the first
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: five callers. Just call 800-400-9741. Give your Florida State and
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Clemson on me. So we are rolling. We've won eight
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: out of nine weeks so far in the football season.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: And my NFL game of the year goes on Sunday.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: How good have we been the last two Sundays? Just 4-0,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: back-to-back Sundays. So if you want to hop on board,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: just one place. It's a 50-unit McFoyager NFL game of
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  Speaker 3: Lee good luck this week man we will talk to
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  Speaker 3: you next week brother Thanks, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Be safe.
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  Speaker 2: All right, be good.
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  Speaker 7: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Lee Sterling joining us, man.
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  Speaker 4: We will be safe, Lee. We're going to put ourselves
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: in our abodes all weekend and not come outside. For
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: fear we might get hit by a Packer.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Lee has the Tar Heel fans texted in right now.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Tar Heel fans get a little frisky. They're on the
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: only lose by 11 wagon. You've got a texter here
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: who is conjuring. Now, he says, Finney, tell me if
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: you heard this before. UNC has a number one ranked
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Miami team come into Kenan, and they pull off the win.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: That team, I think was ranked fourth.
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  Speaker 7: Cause, cause they were number four.
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  Speaker 3: That's the highest ranked team. The heels have beaten the
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  Speaker 3: only top five team they beaten. But I see what
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: you're saying. And then complainer in chief bone says 28,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: 24 heels are interior D line. is going to make
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: it hard for the quarterback to get the ball out.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I like the way he just calls him the quarterback.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: You're going to call him Mr. Mensah by Saturday. He
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: might not have even watched Miami all year, to be honest.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: I don't think he has because what makes Miami so
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: difficult to defend is how quickly.
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  Speaker 7: They get the ball out of his hands.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: And also, like, Matt, Mensah doesn't turn the ball over.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: He's got a 22-to-1 touchdown-interception ratio.
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's ridiculous, man.
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: And you're going to need multiple turnovers– Like, if Carolina's
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: going to win the game tomorrow night, it's going to
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: be just as much Miami beating themselves as Carolina beating Miami.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you're going to need.
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  Speaker 6: We don't have the horses yet to compete with. This
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  Speaker 6: might be the best team in college football.
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  Speaker 4: No doubt. You're not going from a loss to Syracuse
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  Speaker 4: at home to beating Miami. Can you compete? That's a question.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: But beating Miami? Not only does Mensah not turn it over,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: he didn't even put the ball on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: It's not even turnaround. No incompletions hardly for him. It's true.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: This dude says you double Tony and take him away. Well,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: then Barkay might go off. And you can shut them down.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: In the words of Bill Belichick, he beats double teams. Also,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: you double him and he gets open anyway.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: Have you seen our secondary guy? Our secondary is the
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: equivalent of the Panthers' offensive line right now.
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: Outside of Jaden Patterson, it's not good.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: No Trey Miller, no Peyton Waters. You do get cost back,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: it looks like.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was big to see him on the injury report.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, like Greg Smith, he's been the best player
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  Speaker 6: for Carolina all year. Made a play that cost Carolina
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  Speaker 6: the game in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Just because he tried to go make a play on
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: the ball, then he didn't make a play on the ball,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: got lost in the lights.
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  Speaker 4: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I hope I'm wrong. I hope UNC can put on
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: a good show and can push them. But, man, it
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: feels daunting.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: It does. When we come back here on the Mac
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: and Bone Show, thanks to Lee Stern for coming on.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: It was a rough night against... The Packers last night
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: for Bryce. Do we blame it all on the big uglies?
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Or was Bryce simply not getting it done either? A
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: full blame discussion for the first time since the top
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: of the 7 o'clock hour on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe.
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  Speaker 8: I would say that he certainly doesn't look like he's
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: got that quick-make-you-miss type of deal, but he was able
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: to create some space for himself. But the rush got
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: after us, and that's the bottom line, is we've got
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: to take care of that first part of it so
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: we have an element of time to be able to
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: execute the play.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: That is Dave Canales asked about Bryce's knee, which he
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: has a brace on. And as we try to figure out,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: how was Bryce dancing around the pressure for the first
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: five games? And the last two, it's more pressure. But
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: how is he not able to evade the rush? He
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: just doesn't look like he can get away from it
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: as easy. And Dave Canales would not rule that out
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: yesterday when asked about it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Because I think there's physical problems. Also, I think there's
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: mental stuff here. Because, Matt, he is so now having
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: to look at what is coming around him. from a
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: defensive standpoint, who might hit him rather than seeing the
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: field like he was so well for a while. And
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: that's why he looks like rookie Bryce. He's getting hit
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: so much that he's now looking at the rush and
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: not TMAC and Coker and these other guys like he
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: was doing so well.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: 100%. Herbstreet mentioned it. And this is, and this is
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: a conversation. I would like it to be nuanced, but
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure bone that assignment can be carried out,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: but like how much blame does Bryce really deserve? I mean,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: it all starts with the pressure up front. It all
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: starts with injuries to the O-line underperforming guys like Rasheed Walker,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: who was at least serviceable and solid in Green Bay,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: playing like this. Robert Hunt playing completely unlike the Robert
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Hunt we knew from his first year here. But what
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: do we think about Bryce in terms of blame? Herbie
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: said it last night. It was on the fourth down
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: play bone where we got the ball back down one score.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: It was a miracle.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Got the ball back down one score at our own
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: 45 with great field position. Defense did a hell of
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: a job, Bone, late in that game. Interception and three
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: punts forced in the last four drives. And I'm thinking, okay,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: can we somehow pull something out of this miraculously?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: It was fourth down.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: And it was right after the run play on third
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: and seven that a lot of Panther fans have texted
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: about today and didn't like. But Bryce, Herbie mentioned it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Bryce moves and didn't have to. The pressure really wasn't there.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: The protection held up. But to your point, Bryce Young
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: is feeling pressure. He is so bothered by the pressure
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the last two weeks. that he is feeling it before
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: it gets there.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: It's the ghost. It's the ghost thing.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: So he moves and throws off balance because he moved
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and doesn't hit TMAC. He said after the game, that's
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: my fault. And part of it was you could have
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: just hung in there and I'm convinced bone in the
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: first few weeks, he would have hung in and not
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: felt this pressure that wasn't there.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I agree. No, it's a it all.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Everything that we're talking about starts with the offensive line
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: from the play calling to Bryce Young. Everything with the offense.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: We said yesterday, Mac, it doesn't matter what the play
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: calls are. It doesn't matter about a lot of stuff.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: The run game and all these things we talk about.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: If the offensive line can't hold up for any duration
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: of time, none of that matters. And that's what happened
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: last night. None of it matters. It's it can't get
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: the play calls he wants out there. You can't get
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Coker and T-Mac in full like you want. You can't
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: do what you want to do if the offensive line.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: It's one thing to to not be good. But that
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: that's another level that is can't even run plays type
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: bad last.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's yeah, there's no there's you gotta.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Try to scheme around that you got no ability to
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: have any time to throw the ball downfield everything's got
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: to be dink and dunk or run game The defense
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: knows this and they can sit on the dink and
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: dunk passes. All of a sudden those RPOs ain't going
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: to work like they did against Detroit. You can't do
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: that over and over again. The tape's out there. Um,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: so yeah, there's a lot of, of issues. Tarheel Swath
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: says we have five below replacement level linemen right now. Yeah.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I said it yesterday.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I said, every one of those guys, you're at least
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: a little worried about, and maybe every one of them
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: we should be severely worried about. I thought it was crazy,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: but I thought the backup left guards played the best.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I thought Bullock, and of course he gets hurt, and
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: then Curhan, not saying they were perfect, Bone, but if
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: you had me rank the offensive line positions that were
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the worst last night, I'd have them fifth in terms
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: of worst.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Curhan does well against Green Bay. He's the
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Packer stopper, Curhan. You may not see him again, but
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: when we play Green Bay.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: He's out there.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Bullock was good against Detroit. He was.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: The tackles were absolutely abysmal. I just, I, I shouldn't
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: say I can't believe it because by now we know
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Rashid Walker is playing terrible football and there's no reason
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: to expect to change it.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Monroe, I will be honest.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I was saying yesterday on the pregame show, like I
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: w I thought Monroe was going to hold up better.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: That looked like his first game all over again.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not writing him off for the future.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I think he's been thrown into the fire here a
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: lot this year. He got injured along the way. Yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: they didn't even want him to play year one. They
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: wanted him to go full Steinbach. They wanted him to
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: sit and watch, and if needed, he's out there, but
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: not really have the pressure of being one of the
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: main guys. And unfortunately, with this city, when you have
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: a plan to sit a guy for a while, he
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: might get in there right away.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Well, no doubt.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: 8-4-3 says the thing about pressure is Bryce is probably
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: seeing it in practice too with the practice squad guys.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: He's coming into the game already anticipating pressure. Bagel guy,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: it's time to move Monroe to the left. Who do
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: you play on the right side? Do you dare go
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: to Stone Forsyth? It's gotten to the point where some
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: texters are saying, why the hell not try it? I
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: also brought up the idea, can Brady Christensen try to
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: play one of the tackle spots?
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, they bring him back. You might as well
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: use him. He's got to be better than the alternative
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: options we have going on here. Or the other options.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: We have going on.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: This dude says, this segment is not even worth listening to.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: It's going to be... 10 straight minutes of defending Bryce
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: at all costs.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Someone's got to protect Bryce.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Phinney? Are we over-defending Bryce?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like Bone and I both sat there and
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: said he is feeling pressure that's not there on some
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: of these plays that he has mentally messed with by
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: the last two games.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: I thought the difference in Bryce from last night compared
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: to Sunday, like, Mac, on Sunday there was poor decision-making
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: from Bryce.
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, pressure was a big part of it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: There was also some decisions that cost him and why
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: he had three turnovers.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: I didn't get that vibe from him last night.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: I got the vibe from him that he has no
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: trust in his offensive line, which means that his footwork
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: is not where it needs to be.
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: Look how quickly he was going through his progressions last night.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: There was a lot of times the play was not
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: even developing and we're just dumping the ball down to Chuba.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: And credit Chuba, he was the best player last night
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: on the offensive side of the ball for Carolina. I
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: thought he played his ass off. So, yeah, I mean,
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: you need to be willing to do something. Because the
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: way that Rasheed Walker is playing left tackle, he's going
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: to get Bryce Young severely injured.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Yes. And his, and his friends aren't doing a whole
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: lot better.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: You, you said something there. He sped up. That's what's happening, right?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I got to get through this. He's not open. He's
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: not open. Oh my God. They're all over me. You
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? That's what's going on.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: And what did we say when Bryce was playing well
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: for the first five games, the game has slowed down
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: for him. Well, now it's the game has sped up
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: again and he looks like young Bryce again.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: DJ Humphries and Taylor Decker are out there still unsigned
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: as guys. I mean, D.J. Humphreys was on the Washington
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: practice squad until September. I mean, you're not going to find,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: you know, Taylor Deckers had a shoulder injury, the former Hawaiian,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: but he's still out there. You're telling me that those
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: guys right now couldn't come in for a while and
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: be better than what we see?
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: D.J.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Humphreys, Charlotte's D.J. Humphreys, by the way, Mallard Creek. You're
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: telling me D.J. Humphreys, Matt, can't get in there and
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: at least be serviceable for a while? Please, somebody.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Something's worth a shot. I mean, if we're thinking about
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: stone foresight, anything is possible. How about this?
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I would actually, Matt, consider putting up a stone wall.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: And see if.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: That can help.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: How about this?
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: 803 number wants Freeling at left tackle and Fiddy at
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: right tackle.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: Can't be much worse.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: This dude says, if you ain't giving Bryson outs of blame,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: then you are being disingenuous, Mac. I feel like we
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: have sat here and broke it down. Like, there is
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: no doubt he ain't handling the pressure like he did
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: early on.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: But Mac was.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Like, I feel like we're having a fair conversation here. I.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Are we not, Finney?
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: No, I think we are.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: Did people think that the way he played the first
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: month of the season was sustainable? Like, yes, it was
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: amazing the way he played, leading the league and passing
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: yards while being the most pressured quarterback in the National
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: Football League. It wasn't sustainable over a 17-game season, though. Like,
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: at some point, the guys up front got to do their.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Job, too. It has gotten worse, though, the last two games.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: It has. Here's where it's gotten worse. The time to pressure.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: 2.4 seconds on Sunday, 2.5 seconds last night. These are,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: someone was saying on the text line, it's the two
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: fastest of the season. I don't know if that's a fact,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: but it's the two fastest for Bryce this season. That's
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: what's changing. It's on him in an instant now. Whereas, yeah,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: he was facing pressure before, but it wasn't like this.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: You know, it's just, and it's ugly. I feel for
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: the fella. I feel for the little fella boat and
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: it's in a contract year for him. And he was
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: looking like he's going to get paid. How's this going
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: to affect value? Then you have the question of like,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: how do you evaluate him? If you're the Panther, like, yeah,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: they've had all this tape on them, but like it
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: makes the eval hard.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Because, like, what do we hold against him? What do
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: we not hold against him here? I don't know, man.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Damn, it's a headache.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: God.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Listeners are holding up well, Mac. A guy says he's
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: handling the loss well, pulled over to the side of
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: the road this morning and had to throw up.
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: I just want to know these people that want to
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: blame Bryce. How many quarterbacks would thrive under this kind
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: of pressure? And if you're comparing them to those echelon
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: of quarterbacks, you need to reevaluate your expectations for your quarterback.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, are there any? You know what I mean? Like,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: are there any?
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: I don't think there are.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Every quarterback would be affected by this in some way.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: There are some that would handle it better, but I'm
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: not sure anybody would be great. Picante has your answer, though.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Drew Mestemaker is the guy, Picante says.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: There's a chance that he might be his father. When
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: we come back, we turn our attention to a more
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: positive topic.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, good.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Is this Panther team just too banged up to win
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: right now? Or do the Panthers still need some ripping?
• 47:02
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• 47:04
  Speaker 2: We're bringing the sunshine. That sounds fun.