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The Bar is In Hell | Maintaining Frame 144 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian. I'm here with Allison and this is maintaining
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  Speaker 1: frame number one forty four. The bar is in Hell.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be looking at a video. This was a
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  Speaker 1: request given to us a bye, is it Richard Pierre?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, to respond to if it's esoteric.
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  Speaker 2: If it's esoteric, it's the Great Indoors. If it's if
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  Speaker 2: it's sheer, masochistic, bulk shittery, it's Richard Beer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and neither is another is like bad. It's just
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  Speaker 2: different flavors. And I'm not saying that Great Indoors is esoteric.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff doesn't lead to some interesting conversations. Sometimes it's nice
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  Speaker 2: to to occupy the space and the cerebral cortex a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more than the big deal, you know. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a good thing. So yeah, Raither's bad, You're
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  Speaker 2: all good. But yeah it was rich Beer this time.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna be responding to this intersectional feminist
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  Speaker 1: YouTuber Branny Claire. I think we responding to a couple
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  Speaker 1: of her videos before, and she is more She's not
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  Speaker 1: so much a female dating strategy feminist as she is
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  Speaker 1: a you know, like all men are scum feminists and
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  Speaker 1: everything is patriarchy feminist. So she is reacting to the
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  Speaker 1: show that Netflix put out called Adolescents that's been making
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  Speaker 1: the rounds. Everyone's got a take on it, and most
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  Speaker 1: of them are trash, and hers is not much different.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna be looking at her trash take on adolescents,
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  Speaker 1: and again, you know, what I noticed too that's interesting
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  Speaker 1: is that most people who respond to this, they respond
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  Speaker 1: to the show like they're responding to a real thing
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  Speaker 1: that really happened. Like everyone treats it like it's real.
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  Speaker 1: And it's almost like they think that if they do
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  Speaker 1: it enough and with enough like loudness and enough sound
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  Speaker 1: and fury and enough frequency, that people that have two
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  Speaker 1: brain cells who up together will immediately be like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, maybe this is real. Because everyone keeps saying it,
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  Speaker 1: like literally, this movie or this show has been tabled
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  Speaker 1: as a must see thing in the in the the
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  Speaker 1: the in Parliament, in the UK Parliament, they were like,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna watch everybody. This should be in schools. It's
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  Speaker 1: like it's a show that is lying about reality, but
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  Speaker 1: it's so well performed, you know, and acted that people
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  Speaker 1: are like, this must be real, it must be real things.
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  Speaker 1: So of course Branny is no different. You know. I
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  Speaker 1: know that we haven't even gotten to this video yet,
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  Speaker 1: but I watched it because I had to, and you're welcome,
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  Speaker 1: and I want my you know, hours of life back.
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  Speaker 1: Even though the video is only forty five minutes. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm gonna be like with this for days,
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  Speaker 1: just like the impact of having to watch it. But
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy to see feminists react to content made by
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  Speaker 1: feminists and then like regurgitate the talking points that the
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  Speaker 1: feminist created content puts out there as though they are
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  Speaker 1: giving a unique perspective, even though they're literally just saying
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  Speaker 1: like it's just it's like a it's just like a
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  Speaker 1: it's like a human centipede that doesn't have an end
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  Speaker 1: because it's just like assholes and mouths connected in a
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  Speaker 1: circle and they're all just fitting in each other's mouths
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  Speaker 1: the same talking points, and it comes out the other
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  Speaker 1: end like it's and they think they just did something new,
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  Speaker 1: like oh, here's a new here's a new take on
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  Speaker 1: toxic masculinity. Meanwhile, same exact take, you know, and no
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  Speaker 1: no questioning the premise at all. Either it's just like
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  Speaker 1: the premise is a given, guys, because look, I saw
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  Speaker 1: a movie about it, I saw a TV show, I
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  Speaker 1: read a book. It's almost like they know that there
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  Speaker 1: is a reason why it's important to control all of
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  Speaker 1: the narratives in our culture, and if anyone tries to
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  Speaker 1: make something that stands outside of their specific you know,
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  Speaker 1: walled garden of content, then all of a sudden it
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  Speaker 1: becomes like verboten and they can't talk about it because
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  Speaker 1: it's not operating within the ecosystem of bullshit that they
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  Speaker 1: have created. And that's what she's reviewing, something that she
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  Speaker 1: would have written, but she still has criticisms.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's an ecosystem with one life.
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  Speaker 1: Form, yeah, yeah, an ecosystem.
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  Speaker 2: Of one oh man. Yeah, this is a this is
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  Speaker 2: a feminist production of reality. And now they're doing a
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  Speaker 2: feminist interpretation of a feminist production of reality, right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, and they're saying, oh my god, guys, so real,
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  Speaker 1: it's so real. So all right anyway, so that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be responding to. This is Briarty Claire's
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  Speaker 1: review reaction recommendation for women who already live in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a state of absolute terror at the prospect that another
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  Speaker 1: sex exists in the world, and that that sex has
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  Speaker 1: a different way of existing, that this is for them.
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  Speaker 1: This is to further terrify women from men, and not
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  Speaker 1: just men, but masculine. The masculine frame completely is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like you should be afraid, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: the show is for. So anyway, we should get into
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  Speaker 1: the video.
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  Speaker 2: Does Pat Brown's review is possibly the most disgusting take
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  Speaker 2: I've seen. Let's see if she can beat that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who Pat Brown is surprised.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about his review. We'll see I can't,
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  Speaker 2: so we can't comment on that. Apparently there's something worse
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  Speaker 2: than this possibly floating out there, So let's take heart
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  Speaker 2: in that, all right, So if you like the show,
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  Speaker 2: let's uh, I guess, just dive into it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the time codes here, so uh,
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  Speaker 1: she introduces the topic is like thirty seconds, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: just listen to her introduction.
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  Speaker 3: One of my patrons recommended the show Adolescents for this
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  Speaker 3: big video I'm working on, and oh my goodness, I'm
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  Speaker 3: so glad they did because I watched the entire thing
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  Speaker 3: yesterday and I need to talk to you about it.
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  Speaker 3: This video is indeed full the spoilers, but I also
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  Speaker 3: understand that sometimes it's easier to watch a commentary video
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  Speaker 3: about something as opposed to the thing itself, like I
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  Speaker 3: do that when it comes to horror movies, for example,
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  Speaker 3: if I can even sit, like for example, the Substance.
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  Speaker 3: I am way too squeamish when it comes to body
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  Speaker 3: horror to have watched that, even though the feminist discourse
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  Speaker 3: around it would have been amazing for videos as many
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  Speaker 3: people have.
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  Speaker 1: Don Yeah, okay, whatever, So she's squeamish. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: probably not an unimportant detail. But let's get into the
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  Speaker 1: first clip. So she's let me see this is like
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  Speaker 1: two minutes and fifteen seconds in, so she's sort of
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  Speaker 1: setting up the opening of the show, and of course
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  Speaker 1: she is good. There are spoilers for the show in
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  Speaker 1: this video. I don't know how much of it we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna see because I jump I'm jumping ahead at points.
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  Speaker 1: But if you had any interest in watching adolescents and
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to be spoiled, just bear that in mind.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't. I watched the whole thing. I have
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  Speaker 1: no interest in the show anyway. I you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure that it's well acted. I'm sure that that is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, something praiseworthy, but I'm not crazy about like
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  Speaker 1: the actual narrative. But anyway, go.
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  Speaker 3: Into this kid's bedroom and you see this like child.
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  Speaker 3: They look like they're about ten, twelve years old, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm you on suspicion of murders.
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  Speaker 3: And they're interrogating this kid, Jamie, who gets brought out
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  Speaker 3: of bed and it's revealed that he's wet himself, once
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  Speaker 3: again solidifying just how young and childlike this kid, because
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  Speaker 3: they are a kid is And it's revealed that the child, Jamie,
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  Speaker 3: is thirteen years old. They put him in the police car,
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  Speaker 3: and the family follower. And the thing is that the
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  Speaker 3: cops in the car, they're trying to give him advice.
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to say, you need to get a solicitor.
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  Speaker 3: They're actually trying to talk him through to calm him
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  Speaker 3: down because he is so obviously this scared, timid, little
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  Speaker 3: frail child.
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  Speaker 1: He looks so okay, so they she's explaining the setup.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought it was worth pointing out this kid was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thirteen years old in the story. Remember this
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  Speaker 1: is fiction, guys, And the police show up and there
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  Speaker 1: they scare him so bad that he pees himself. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: fair enough, and then they you know, put him in
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  Speaker 1: the car, and while they're in there, they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: calm him down by making suggestions or recommendations or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, so let me jump ahead to the next
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  Speaker 1: time code here just so you get the because she
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  Speaker 1: references back to this point later. That's why I'm bringing
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  Speaker 1: it up now, because there is this thing where this child,
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  Speaker 1: at least in the story, apparently goes from you know, timid, fragile,
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  Speaker 1: scared child to dangerous you know, almost like a man like.
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  Speaker 1: It's like that, like they're crossing into two worlds between
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  Speaker 1: boyhood and manhood, and they're presenting two different sides to
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  Speaker 1: this same kid. And I think that that's why it's
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  Speaker 1: important that we saw that first part of it, because
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  Speaker 1: it's the way that they're presenting the story. And bear
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  Speaker 1: in mind again, this is a fictional story done by
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  Speaker 1: people with a feminist perspective on masculinity, So we bear
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  Speaker 1: that in mind when when we see how the story unfolds.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So next is four three two where she
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  Speaker 1: talks about the trial as it were. This is like
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  Speaker 1: episode one day one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what is she used that?
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  Speaker 2: Then?
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  Speaker 1: Why would you ask her?
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  Speaker 2: Is she?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she is.
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  Speaker 3: We think you know that. Were you attracted to her? No?
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  Speaker 3: Did you go and see her?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: Bring up the CCTV footage. And this is where this
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  Speaker 3: solicitor is like, I think that we should take a
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  Speaker 3: break because he knows if there is CCTV footage that
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  Speaker 3: they are bringing up now and they've just identified him
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  Speaker 3: in this image. Oh yeah, this kid is guilty. But
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  Speaker 3: Eddie and Jamie are just like, well, we'll just keep going.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine because Eddie is so convinced after what his
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  Speaker 3: son has said that he hasn't done anything wrong, He's
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  Speaker 3: not done anything. Why were you following her? He's denying it,
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  Speaker 3: and then.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so that again she's playing through like the
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  Speaker 1: various like things that happened in the story before we
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  Speaker 1: get into her her claims about this. I think there
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  Speaker 1: is a let me see, uh five minutes in. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we'll jump ahead another two minutes, so six point fifty one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I have to jump around a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but her videos are long winded, and she, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just drags things on.
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  Speaker 3: So this just how normal every day was, how normal
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  Speaker 3: everything was. There was no morning thing, there was no
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  Speaker 3: nothing about this. Jade's being questioned by beast Gum and Frank.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's asserting that nothing like this was just normal.
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  Speaker 2: They treated this kid, this girl being stabbed in school
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  Speaker 2: as normal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're they're okay. So the story her problem.
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  Speaker 1: One of her main critiques of the show, and I
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  Speaker 1: think it's kind of stupid, but her one of her
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  Speaker 1: main critiques of the show is that the focus is
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  Speaker 1: on the boy as the perpetrator of this crime and
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  Speaker 1: not the girl who was the victim of the crime.
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  Speaker 1: So the girl being murdered is the is sort of
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  Speaker 1: like the you know, it's the it's the reason for
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  Speaker 1: the story show. She is the flash point, and I
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  Speaker 1: guess the show doesn't show any of that because it's
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  Speaker 1: all an investigation after the fact. And she's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: why isn't there mourning of this girl? Like why don't
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  Speaker 1: we know about this girl? You know, what's her story?
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  Speaker 1: And it's like this thing with feminist where they're like,
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  Speaker 1: why isn't the female character the main character? Even though
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  Speaker 1: the story is about demonizing the boy, you know, Like,
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  Speaker 1: but the story is about demonizing the boy, and basically
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  Speaker 1: all of the men in the show, Like, it's not
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  Speaker 1: even just the boy that's the problem. There's like little
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  Speaker 1: jabs at every male character.
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  Speaker 2: So essentially it's why can't we demonize men without making
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  Speaker 2: them the focus?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, why can't we make them the villains without
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  Speaker 1: giving them too much attention or any attention.
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  Speaker 2: Or any relevance to anything. Well, because you want to
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  Speaker 2: offer fload responsibility onto men by demonizing them. So unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: the scapegoat is the star of the show. It's not
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  Speaker 2: particularly you don't particularly want to be the star of
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  Speaker 2: the scapegoat show, but the scapegoat is the star of
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  Speaker 2: the scapegoat show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You got to have the scapegoat be
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  Speaker 1: the main character in so that you can sufficiently scapegoat them. Right,
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  Speaker 1: But this is this is the thing, like the way
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  Speaker 1: that the way that this these women, they the way
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  Speaker 1: that these people process information, They're constantly thinking about, like
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  Speaker 1: how are women worsened by this? Even when the story
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  Speaker 1: is showing how the men are bad and they are
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  Speaker 1: spending time doing that, they're still like, well what about
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  Speaker 1: the women though, But like not that the women are bad, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: not that, what about the women? You know, like just
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  Speaker 1: being in the story, where is the where is the
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  Speaker 1: sympathy for her? It's always it's like you can't please
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  Speaker 1: these people really, I mean that's just what it comes
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  Speaker 1: down to.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's an ever moving target and it just sort
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  Speaker 2: of reminds me about the complaint about the lesbian romance,
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  Speaker 2: in which, you know, lesbian they always have to have
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  Speaker 2: an evil male ex to put in some actual conflict
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  Speaker 2: into the story. And as well, Yeah, because you can't
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  Speaker 2: have an evil female ex in a lesbian romance because
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  Speaker 2: it's not just about the romance, and it's not just
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  Speaker 2: about the tension and the conflict. It's also got to
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  Speaker 2: make a message that relationships between women are utopian. So
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  Speaker 2: there you go. Yeah, exactly wanted any conflict that has
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  Speaker 2: to come from a man.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, let's play the rest of this clip.
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  Speaker 3: T'sk about Katie and Jamie maybe being in a relationship
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  Speaker 3: or something.
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  Speaker 2: What was their relationship with boys like Jed? You mean
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  Speaker 2: with Jamie s woultn't go anywhere near him.
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  Speaker 3: The teachers keep on saying that they're devastated. Everyone's saying
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  Speaker 3: that they're devastated. But it's all about Jamie. Really, that's
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  Speaker 3: where the focus is. Oh, what's going to happen to him? Oh,
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  Speaker 3: he must have done it. I hear he did this.
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  Speaker 3: I hear he did that. Like, no focus is on
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  Speaker 3: the victim, Katie. It's all about Jamie.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the story, though, like like this is like
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  Speaker 1: a how do you even counter that argument? Like it's
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  Speaker 1: like you if you make a story that demonizes a
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  Speaker 1: male character with the express purpose of making that a
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  Speaker 1: general demonization of all men everywhere, you still have a
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  Speaker 1: problem because they're spending too much time demonizing the male.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have a problem with the demonization of the
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  Speaker 1: male character. You just don't like that the women aren't
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  Speaker 1: getting enough attention for some reason.
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  Speaker 4: Like what, I don't I don't get what you like,
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  Speaker 4: if if you could write the story the way you wanted,
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  Speaker 4: it would probably run for ten seasons because we'd have
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  Speaker 4: to learn every single thing about every woman in the story,
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  Speaker 4: just so that you feel.
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  Speaker 1: You know, satisfied that they've been humanized enough, even though
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  Speaker 1: it's not about them at all, because it's about demonized men.
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  Speaker 1: Like how would you even do that? Like do you
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  Speaker 1: have any concept of how to write stories?
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  Speaker 2: Hmm, well, I don't think she does, first of all.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, I don't know what to say. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it just is so depressing that this, the individuals like
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  Speaker 2: this gets so much flippant attention. Yep, okay, let's let's continue.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so let me see. So basically her argument
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  Speaker 1: here is that, you know, there all of this is
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  Speaker 1: concern over the Jamie character, who again is a is
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  Speaker 1: going to be framed it's a monster in the story.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter, you know, because it's not there's
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  Speaker 1: not enough attention to being given to the victim. Remember
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  Speaker 1: this is fiction. Remember this is fiction. This girl does
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  Speaker 1: not exist, but she has a lot of sympathy for
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  Speaker 1: this non existing character. All right, eight. Okay, here's where
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  Speaker 1: the the manisphere comes up. And I think that this
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  Speaker 1: is uh, you know, a particularly salient. She thinks this
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  Speaker 1: is like the whole thing is what's really about?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there's probably something a bit more here. Really, they're
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  Speaker 3: getting no with this investigation. But it's best comes son,
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  Speaker 3: who is just like, mate, you're just fumbling around. You're
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  Speaker 3: missing the real problem here. It's an exploding red pill.
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  Speaker 1: Pills.
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  Speaker 3: The blue pills means you see the.
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  Speaker 1: What is that one?
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  Speaker 3: You've been watching the matrix?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my sweet, so much child.
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  Speaker 3: You're not reading what they're doing. Exploding red pill called
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  Speaker 3: to action by the minisphere. About eighty percent of women
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  Speaker 3: are attracted to twenty percent of men.
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  Speaker 5: Or she's saying he's an insult that and all those
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  Speaker 5: people have fired, which means they're agreeing with her.
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  Speaker 3: Are you saying that Katie was bullying Jamie? Does any
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  Speaker 3: of this affect you? Son? His son is immediately like,
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  Speaker 3: you never call me son, you call everybody.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm not pausing it there for a moment.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So they bring in the manisphere of rhetoric to the
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: to the degree that the people who made this show
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: understand it, mister girl that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: He was after the black girl.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: One of the black girl who was killed was a
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: white girl. The black girl was like a friend.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: And I think I've heard that they've had a really
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: big problem with knife crime, like white boys knife in
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: white girls.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, big problem, white boys from intact families that are
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: just living in small, small town Britain murdering white girls. Yeah,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I hear that that's an epidemic. That's a big problem.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: They had to ban knives. I remember, Yeah, they ban
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: knives for a while because of it. So okay, But anyway,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: uh so this boy, the son of the detective guy
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: on the case, is explaining to him the red pill
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and that she called him an inceell and that's why
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: he did this, because we all know that when you
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: call somebody an in cel, they fly into a murderous
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: rage and they usually kill people with a knife.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: That's why they use it constantly everywhere to insult everyone.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: That's right, I mean, it's it's it's laughable how little
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: they understand all of this stuff, anything even remotely to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: do with the manisphere, Like I don't think, I don't know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, the inceel condition or the community or the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: population of Inceel. Men don't really have a lot in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: common with the manisphere, as as it pertains to guys
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: like you know, Andrew Tait and Fresh and Fit and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. They and MRAs like they're just completely
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: The only thing that they share in common is that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: they're populated, likely by a majority of men, and that
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: they have an understanding of the issues that men face,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and that number is growing all the time, and it
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't as long as it's those issues are ignored, that's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: not going to change. But this show and it's widespread
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: popularity and all that is only serving to support the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: fact that they're still avoiding this conversation. They're still just
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: trying to like silence it, shame it, or condemn it,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: or make it illegal or whatever, you know. Like in
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: in England, they're gonna probably pass some laws because they're
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: totalitarian af over there right now. And this show is
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be used as like essentially it's gonna be like
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: exhibit A, like here's this piece of fiction that we
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: created that like literally describes what's actually happening in our world.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And off of this fiction that we've constructed. Yeah, I mean,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it was already they were already doing that if you
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: consider where all of their feminist studies came from. That
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: basically was fiction too. Now they're just like, they're just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: not even lying about it. Yeah, we're just gonna make
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: shit up, and then we're gonna make sure that you
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: pass laws based on the ship we made up. So
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and again this won't address anything.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: So they've shut down juvenile detention facilities for girls and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: they're going after prisons for for women. So you're gonna
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: be living in a society in the UK where boys
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: are considered to be terrorists by virtue of being boys,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and there is absolutely there's no justice oversight over women.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be an
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: interesting experiment. We'll see, we'll.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: See how it goes. Yeah, either a bold strategy, Cotton.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Let's all right, so let's let his son, who's clearly like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you know, more like soft and less toxic and dangerous,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: he's talking to his dad, and his dad calls him son.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And of course now we're learning that the even this
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: father is not a good man, because none of the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: men can be good on the show, done it? Huh.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: The black man, the black cop.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Is good yeah, the black the black no, no, no,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I mean somewhat like they're they're more enlightened than the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: white people, but there's still men, so there's still a problem,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and they're they're gonna touch on that. This is actually
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: really if you're paying attention, you can see what the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: people who write and direct this stuff think, the way
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that they think the world should work, and that's what
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: they're putting in their fan fiction. But the black man
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and his son, they have a better relationship than the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: white man and his son. They are better people in
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: terms of their moral standing in the hierarchy that these
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: people have created. But there's still men, so there are
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: still problems. They're not like the women. So like that
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it shows you everything, right, like in the eyes of
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the intersectional woke persona, the black man is a better
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: man than the white man, but still worse than any woman,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Okay, so in contrast, yes, but
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: but when you look at the broader picture, so let's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: listen to this, you'll see what I'm saying. There's like
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: suggestions here, I mean.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Does any of this affect you? Son? His son is
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: immediately like, you never call me son, you call everybody
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: else son, but you never call me son. And if
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you don't know the lexicon, this sort of manisphere stuff,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: then it will go over your head because a lot
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: of it comes down to it seems emojis now even
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: though a E.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm just pausing it there, just so we
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: can look at some of these links. She's using this
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: as proof of like what she understands what the manisphere.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: So there's here, here's like a Google search Cosmopolitan. What
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: do the emojis mean in Netflix's adolescence the hidden meanings
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: behind the emoji or children are look at. I guess
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: there's like the secret language of the manisphere, things like
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the dynamite emoji, the kidney bean or the one hundred.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I hope that I hope the Department of Homeland Security
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: is taking notes on uh on these dangerous emojis from
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I know, the secret messages. This is like, this is
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: like the uh you ever see the people like Inspector
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Griff who used to he was like part of Public
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Enemy and he this is like the rap group from
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: like the eighties and he left them and then he
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: started like talking about out like you know, the Freemasons
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and the Illuminati and the symbol of the deep, symbolism
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: of the of the eye and the and the triangle,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: like this is that's what this is. This is that
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: for the manisphere. You look at the emojis, you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the dog whistles, the secret coded language that that the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: manisphere uses. I think that it's not really hidden. To
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: be honest, they're just talking about ship. But you have
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to read into things because you know, you're paranoid and delusional.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Let me see nine five. It feels like.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: That meme of a woman saying what what is he thinking?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: What is he thinking? You know, he's thinking, did I
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: did I close the door? Did I latch the door
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: at work when I left?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: What is he thinking about?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Did I make sure to turn on the security?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, trying to remember what what side quest
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: he needed to do on SC I remember when he
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: gets back up. Okay, so let's let's listen to ten
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: seconds more.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: You can use different webs and stuff, like there's a
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: whole encyclopedia you can dive into.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So encyclopedia comes. She references men who hate women and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: extremism nobody talking is talking about by Laura Bates. Laura
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Bates is her reference Yep, you know, I said, because.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: As soon as I saw the way that they made
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: up that boy, I was thinking Laura Bates because I.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Think I wouldn't be surprised if she was.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, this is going to give her excuse to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: get them even younger, like she was she was slumming
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: with the fifteen year old boys. She's like, yeah, this
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: is this, this is old meat. This a little tough,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: it's a little a little bit cherkey. Is I need
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to get the young the young tender.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Shoots do not want.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's gonna get her. This is going to
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: allow her to get access sexual access to even younger boys.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: But you know we're nobody's counting that. But yeah, I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: was thinking of Laura Bates instant I saw how they
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: made up the boy. You know that the boy is
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: fully made up, right, yeah, oh for sure faced, But
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: that that's why he looks well, he uh, he looks uh.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: He's intended to look very attractive, shall we say so,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: he's a attractive, very young boy, just like cuties. Right,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: you see the hoof prints of this.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That's a different kind of fetishization because when it's girls,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's you know, there's a different way to approach it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think no, I do think that there's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: some weird fetishization of this young man.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you take a look at him, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: why did they choose that particular shade of lipstick?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Like they're really going for kind of a gothic killer look,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like they're they're they're they're
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: really hitting the hibistrophilia plus the pedophilia angle. It's actually
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: a little bit freaking disturbing just just seeing that. And
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the other thing that occurred to me is when you
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: were talking about how he seems so fragile in the beginning,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: it's almost like they're trying to take away boys' vulnerability entirely,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and they're trying to suggest that it's sinister and creepy and.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: It hides evil. That's kind of what comes out later
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: when he loses his temper, That's what that's exactly. The
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: point is to like take take away the innocence. And
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: there's a few ways you can do that, and one
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: of them is to try to present them as adults,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you know, in some like with some adult agency when
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: it comes to males. I got a super chat from
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Anemic royalty, who says for a dollar ninety nine, Ralph
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Nader is uncircumcised. That is all, well, good for Ralph Nader.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Who's Ralph Nader? Does anyone know? I don't know who
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that is. I know that name from somewhere, but.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'll look it up.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Know it too. I just it's off the top of
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the nep my head.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. All right, let's listen to the other. There's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: like five seconds left of this clip, I think, and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure I didn't miss anything.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: So really with this manis for nonsense and DS Frank
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: says exactly what we're all thinking.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Involuntary celible stuff.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: It's the Andrew Tit shite. This is the real issue,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: and guess is it is it?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Ralph Nader is an American political activist involved in consumer protection, environmentalism,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: and government reform causes. It doesn't freaking matter. The system
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: is dying, Okay, nobody's going to care when everyone's starving,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: all right, let's keep going.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: So so anyway, she says, the Andrew Tit shite, this
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: is the issue.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's what she notes. This is the exact same thing
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: that I did that everybody's gonna remember Jamie and nobody
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: gives a toss about Katie because that's exactly what we've
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: been seeing, because that was all I was thinking about.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Is I talked about in this video here? Everyone cares
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: about what's going to happen to Jamie. So Bescoe goes
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: back to YANGX.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, I want to see justice done. That's the typical
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: thing like that. The thing is, there's nothing that's going
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to happen to Katie except decomposition at this point, like
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: nobody cares. It's not that they don't care about the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: fact that she was killed, it's just that there's no
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: further conflict, there's no further question in that. So they're thinking,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: is justice going to be done with this boy? Is
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: he going to be thrown into jail for his crimes?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: That's what's going on, you know. Yeah, if you want
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Katie to be the star of the show, then Katie
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: would have had to have knifed him. Oh she's not
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: if well, if Katie went to knife him, she wouldn't
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: go to jail because she's in the UK and they
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: don't jail girls. So there's there. I mean, I mean,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: if she knifed him then she would become the center
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and whether or not it would the knifing would be punished,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: would become the central conflict, and she would be able
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to be part of that because she was the one
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: who did it, is what I'm saying. Yeah, so but
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: we can't we can't acknowledge women's violence against men and boys,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So how could we have that story?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: That's right? All right? So next clip is her talking
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: about the scene where uh, Jamie that's his name, right
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: is in He's talking to the like psych the therapist
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: or the psych the psychologist or whatever that was the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: one that with the scene. Parts of the scene were
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: posted on X and so we'll like take a look
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: It's all accused.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: If I didn't, don't worry about the frozen frame. That's
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: her the YouTuber. She's probably trying to avoid a copyright.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: So she's just putting up Yeah, look at the lipstick
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: on this boy.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and why didn't they just you know, put some slaps,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: some garters on her and then a little like lacy number. No,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not fucking kidding, like they're sexualizing this boy.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: It's disturbing.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: The getting it didn't set him off once again, Oh my.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: God, every female pedophile in the audience. That's that's just right,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: every female hipistrophilic pedophile in the audience. Remember we talked
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: about how women are attracted to men's anger. Some women,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: this is a freaking fetish. Aren't you an adult? Like
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: why are you cringing away from him? Establish authority? He's
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a child.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Now, But she's afraid of him. Then that's the thing
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that's interesting about this. So like, Okay, I'm trying to
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: look at this as just a show, so like looking
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: at it from the perspective of filmmaking and writing and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: not necessarily what they're trying to do, which is essentially
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: get us emotionally invested in fictional characters so that we
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: can take a specific stance. So if you're if you're
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like telling a story and you want to really increase tension,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: why is it in horror films? For example, really good
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: horror movies will have female protagonists. We call them screen queens,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: screen queens, or final girls. Well, one of the reasons
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: why it's really effective to have female protagonists in horror
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: films is because of our natural inclination to you know,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: sympathize with a woman that's in danger. It's just way
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: more effective, you know, if she's being chased around by
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the slasher guy, like you know, leather Face or Freddy
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Krueger or or whatever it is, Dracula, you know, coming
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: into her room and she's like powerless to resist him.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: We're we're supposed to be made more afraid by the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: fact that it's a woman, because we see women as
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: more vulnerable and obviously weaker than men. So this is
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: like and and some people have done a twist on that,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you know, like The Ring kind of inverted it, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I think it did a good job, but usual or
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: The Exorcist, but usually you have like a final female
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: character and a protagonist, and you have like, you know,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: whatever the killer is, whatever it is, the monster. The
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: only way to do it even more like taking another
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: level up ahead of that in terms of the tension building,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: is to use a child. But they very rarely do
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that with children, because I mean they do sometimes, but
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: it's usually like, for for whatever reason, in a lot
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: of older horror films, it was like a step too
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: far to put children in danger like that, unless you add,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you know, unless you were doing it in a really
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: creative way, like Poltergeist or whatever. And I'm sure you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: guys have some examples, but what's happening in this is
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: actually interesting because what they're trying to do is they're
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: trying to like make this woman, who is a grown
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: ass woman, she's an adult, put her in a position
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to be afraid of a twelve year old boy, when
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: normally a twelve or thirteen year old boy would be
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: the most like the most vulnerable person in like a
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: story that involved tension like that. You know, I watched
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: The myst not long ago, and there's in that story.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: In that movie, there's a father protecting his son. His
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: son's probably like ten years old, and you're the one
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of the things that keeps the people on edge watching
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: it is they're worried about whether or not the child
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: is gonna make it because they're they're kind of like
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: expecting that the father will sacrifice himself to protect his child.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And this is like what you'll see in other things
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: like The Road, for example, or the Showgun Assassin, But like,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: how are they gonna do this. They're trying to invert this.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: They're trying to make the boy the adult and the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: woman the child because it's the only way, we're gonna
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: feel like afraid for the woman, and they are trying
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to do that, and you could tell by how they
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: shoot her expressions, like they're cutting to her reaction and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: also later when they frame it to where the boy
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: is standing over her. But it does. It doesn't for me,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work, but it is what they're trying to do.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I think, well, of course, and I I still insist
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that this boy is being sexualized as an adult male.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: He's been put in this positions like having that kind
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: of adult power over this woman, and it's it's not wrong.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: It's let's finish this and I'll give you my thoughts,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Let me let me uh yeah, let's listen.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: To this.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Saying all of these exact same talking points which we
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: hear all the time, and the man why would.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: They those are manisphere talking points? Go ahead?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Why does the boy have to assert that she doesn't
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: get to control his life? Like if it was a
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: girl and a man, would we have the same reaction
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to the girl asserting that the man doesn't get to
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: control her life. No, but the premise says that he's
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: starting from a position where his life is being controlled
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: by this woman, right, okay, and but here's the other
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: thing that I wanted to say. This is exactly the problem.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: So if you're going to present women as victims and
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: not authority figures over boys as young as what twelve thirteen,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: if you're going to present that, then what you are
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: creating is a peter Pan system in which boys no
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: longer have any authority whatsoever, like they don't. In fact,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: what you're doing is because most boys, they only have
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a mother, they only have female teachers, all of their
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: authority is female. And now you're saying there is no
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: authority over boys, right. You see what I'm saying, Brian,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Because you're wanting women to be victims of younger and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: younger and younger boys for whatever fucked up reason. You
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: guys are sick, but regardless, you want women to be
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: seen as victims of younger and younger and younger boys.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: That means women don't have that perception of authority over
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: those boys. Of course they do, they absolutely do. What
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: you're really constructing is a situation where the people who
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: have the authority have none of the responsibility for their charges.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: What a surprise the UK would do this, considering that
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: they don't even consider it rape. If that woman had
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: sex with that boy. They don't even consider it statutory rape.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: They don't they don't even consider it that at all.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's illegal there. I've looked
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: at the I looked at the actual statutes. I'm not
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: even sure what it would be qualified under. I don't
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: even know if it would be considered a sexual crime.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: It might be a gigantic loophole for female pedophiles in
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the UK. I'll have to look through the statutes again,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: but it's it really disturbed me the first time I
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: looked at it. But it wouldn't be classified as statutory
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: rape because in order for it to be rape, it
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: has to be a man and a female, either a
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: girl or a woman. So okay, so this is this
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is right off the back. She has authority over him
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: and none of the responsibility to protect his sexuality, none
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: of the presponsibility to protect his person, his childhood, his innocence,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: because right here he's the one with the power, right
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So that is an excuse of any kind of tyrannical
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: exercise by women over boys right there. This is what
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: they're constructing. And they're also constructing this idea that every
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: time you look at a situation with young boy and
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: an older woman, you have to see the boy is
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the potential aggressor. So again, in that scenario, there's no
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: legitimate authority that boys can look up to. So we
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: are constructing generations of boys with no legitimate authority, nobody
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: to look up to, not even the women, because the
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: women have no responsibility to them. No, there have no
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: responsibility that will be enforced to them. So these boys
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: lose their childhood. We are raised. We are literally doing
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: an experiment on the human mind. Right here. We're saying
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: what happens when we go back to a situation in
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the far evolutionary past when we didn't have childhoods. All
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: we had is maybe an infancy, and then you're an adult,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: no childhood. And what's interesting to me, I think, I
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: don't know if you heard this, maybe it was just
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: me and Hannah talking about this is Hannah was talking
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: about how she has a coworker who's in a correctional
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: facility or worked with juveniles, and he was describing how
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: juveniles who are in trouble with the law have changed
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: over the years. They went from you know, he could
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: appeal to their sense of honor, or at least their
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: sense of consequence. Now there's nothing they don't recognize, honor
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that you honor others, or any kind of reciprococity. And
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: they don't even seem to recognize cause and effect, because
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: these women are removing childhood from the hu human race,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: because they're saying that women are not adults to boys,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: and those are the only adults that boys have. So basically,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: we are constructing generation upon generation of essentially feral children,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: and the girls aren't that much better because all they
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: learn is how to ape the sisterhood. Good luck, good
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: luck in the coming years, maintaining an advanced civilization with
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: these principles and allowing these people to have had to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: have control over the development of human social habits, the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: movement of children from infancy to young adulthood. These people
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of control, They control it. They are laying the foundation
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: for the future, and they literally do not see women
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: as adults in relation to boys. I know that sometimes
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I go on and maybe i'm people don't understand the
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: point I'm making, But I hope that something you guys
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: can get something out of that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me play some more.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not what you're saying or what does she say?
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: She just smiled and said okay and walked away.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Just must have hurt.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't kill And he gets angrier and angry, saying
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: that you.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Again. Remember we had that that that we I think
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: it might have been with you, but we covered a
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: video I think it was with Hannah where a woman
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: confessed how men's anger turned her on.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: This is fetish material. I'm sorry, look at look at it,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: and I know that maybe people are like, why do
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you keep going on about that? Look at the emphasis
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: put on the lipstick and the lips on this kid.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: It's intended to it's intended to emphasize and I say
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: this and it's gross, so you know, but they are
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: emphasizing features on his body that are considered sexual as
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: they do this, and then they develop they they are
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: constructing this angry kid. I'm I would lay odds that
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: there is some extremely unsavory sexual intent behind this. I'll
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: leave it at that.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Because well, it is. It is uh the entertainment industry.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: It is show business, so I wouldn't be surprised. Okay, Well,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: let's and everyone's praising the crap out of this boy too,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: by the way, in real life like IRL acting ability.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: So he's going places I hope he watches his ass.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Sriply, scared, trying to hode all together. And then he
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: just growls and then she flinches and he's like, I
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: know that I've got the power. This is a thirteen
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: year old boy.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Are you fucking mental?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I told you it's an inversion. They like they they
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: they can't help themselves.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: What is the point? Okay, what are you trying to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: say about the world now that an adult woman can't
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: can't be an adult to a thirteen year old boy
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: or younger or however young you want to make it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying about the world. This is
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: making me really fucking uncomfortable. There's something about it that's
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: just unbelievably unsavory, the construction of this, the ang the.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: And he's from a pretty normal family, and it turns
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: out that Tommy Bryan and Jamie Webby.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: She says, he's from a pretty normal family, which is
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: which should be something that would say, well, yeah, then
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: why would this happen? It makes no sense. But no,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: she just says, like it's a real thing, like oh look,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: even kids from real, regular families that are that have
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a stable home with a mother and father, they could
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: turn out awful. It's like, yeah, but you're talking about fiction,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Like this is fiction, This is not statistically likely in
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the real world, and yet you see it happen in fiction,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and then you try to gaslight your audience into thinking
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: that this thing that happened in a fictional setting could
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: also like oh wow, it's and on top of all
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: that he's from a normal family. He's like, yeah, but
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: this is made up.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, made up. And if they went by statistics, it
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: would look a lot different, let me tell you, Yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: like massively different. If they went by what was actually
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: most likely to happen in reality, it would look a
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: lot different, right, And there probably would be some kind
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: of sexual abuse by a woman. He probably would be
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: the child of a single mother. He probably wouldn't be white.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he was, he would definitely have been
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: raised in a man desert. Which is the real problem,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: because this is the funny thing. The UK is trying
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: to make it out that it's the influence of men
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: that's the problem, right, Like the influence of the manisphere
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: as opposed to the complete absence of actual men who
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: care about these boys in their lives. So they know,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the UK knows what's coming out of the man deserts, right,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna get worse, But it chooses to focus
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: on the least plausible scenario, the least least plausible source
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: of the problem.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's like you're you're you have a gigantic river,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: like a tsunami coming your way, and you focus on
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: little Timmy with his squirt bottle. You're like, oh, you're
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: gonna drown everyone with your squirt bottle, little Timmy. Meanwhile,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: you ignore the flip into tsunami coming in like it's
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: it's absurd. And then again, you're right, it's these feminists
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: are seeing this as reality. By the way, look at
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: them sitting down. She's probably six inches taller than him
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: standing up.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure, doesn't she stand up? Because it doesn't
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have the appropriate effect if she's sitting down
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and he's standing up. That's literally why they did it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: That's like, it was to create this emotional reaction. That's
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: why they shot it like this, that's why. And then
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like there's a you know, a guy comes to the door,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: he's outside the room, and she waves him off like
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: oh no, it's fine, I got this, and I mean
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: so like there's still like she has power to like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: stop this. But the the this right here is the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: emotional pay payout right here, This is what you're supposed
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: to feel. This is why this clip was the one
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: that was viral on X and people didn't they didn't
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: see it, like they just were like, oh my god,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: that kid is scary. He's like no, he's a child,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: he's upset and no one's helping him, and like, I
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: mean and this is fictional.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: No, And what they're essentially saying now, ladies inadvertently is
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: not only can they not actually vote to construct a
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: society that's functional, apparently they also can't be mothers of children.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: They can't actually occupy an adult role when it comes
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: to children. All she needs to do is stand up,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: all right, even if he's taller than her, just stand up.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Stop submitting. So you're telling me that women can only
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: do can only submit to what he's like freaking seventy
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: five pounds, Well, then hire female teachers that are that
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: are outweigh him substantially or something like this is freaking ridiculous.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: So he okay, let's keep going, let's keep going.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I got a super sorry, I got a super chat
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: from Albatross. He says, stunning and brave, professional adult, but
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: she's scared of a skinny twelve year old. Well again,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: they're trying, they're they're trying to have their cake and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: eat it too. So if you watch the scene she
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: does put puts on a you know, like this fucking
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: claries from Signs of the Lambs thing where she's like
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: a frid but remain stoic and then sort of like
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: calms the boy down so that you can have that
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: emotional moment but then move on so you can continue
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: with your narrative. Like this is all just like really
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: heavy handed stuff, but thank you Albatross for that. Okay,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: they are okay.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: What they are saying that male kids are evil.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, particularly white male kids, but male kids in general.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Walked away just must have hurt. I didn't kill. And
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: he gets angrier and angry at saying that you can't
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: trust videos, it's fake news because videos could be manipulated
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: these days. She was a bitch. What was that?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, what was that like, isn't that not true
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: that that videos can be manipulated today?
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: Like deep fakes are a thing now, yeah, sure, well
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: again we have to we have to say that because
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: he is Okay, so let's look at it this way.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: This kid is now he's no longer a child. He
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: is an avatar of the manisphere. So everything that he
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: says now he's all, he's just he is just there
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: as the template from which to regurgitate their talk the
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: talking points of the manisphere. So that's why he is
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: simultaneously like a red pill guy and an in cell
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: guy and Andrew Tate guy all at the same time,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: even though those things aren't really the same, Like there's
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: some some like event diagram, but no, no, because you
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: can't have that because like if you well, this is
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the thing that they do. That's probably the smartest move
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: for them is that when they discuss the manisphere of
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: the red pill, they never talk about the MRAs because
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: they can't. They couldn't bring it up. We would like
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: our talking points are not refutable, Like they know we're right,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: So like they'll just find the guy that can straw
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: man the most and they'll just use that and the
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: truth is like the people that they use as their
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: reason for hating the manisphere. They created them. You created
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: these people, like these hr fucking harpies that are like
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: running your governments and your and your businesses and your
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: schools and everything. They made the manisphere happen. So what
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: you guys are experiencing now, this like level or wave
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: of like PA types and red pill guys, you made
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: those people. You created them because you did not respond
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: to boys in need. You did not look at the
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: family structure and try to address it. You didn't do
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: any of those things. You just pretended like there was
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: nothing happening, and you just kept shitting on men and
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: shitting on men and shitting on men and shitting on men.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: And then after a while men start to respond to it.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: And the thing is most of them are just like
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: checking out. So that's why they don't. They don't address
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: the migtows because they don't have it. They can't. What
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: are you gonna do make them hook up with women
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you don't want them to, So they're just doing what
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: you asked and you're not gonna like get any You're
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: not gonna address the MRA, so you just go after
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: like the lowest hanging fruit you can, and even then
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you have to misrepresent them. So you created this problem
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: and you will never accept it because you're just too
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: prideful to do so.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Eyeliner like the whole nine yards Like, if that was
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: on a girl, you would say she's being sexualized by
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the actual the story. That's that's happening, and I think
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: that's where the creepiness is coming. He's just a kid,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: you know, you are the adult. Okay, but then again,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: you said that she did regain control, right she calmed
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: him down.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean she kind of like, well, we'll watch.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it is an adult versus a child.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: So but let's place more of this. Okay, let me see, yeah,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: would have killed him.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't understand. Luck at you all hopeful acmunistation from important.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: This thirteen year old kid really scared me at that point.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: And he says that he asked him out after the
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: photo got leaked, thinking that she would be weak, and so,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: you know, everyone else was calling her a slag, so
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: he was like, oh, maybe she'll like me now, I
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: went on. I was sorry that they do not, So
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: everyone was calling a slugg you know, or flow ever,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: so of all, when she was like that week.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Are you are you fucking kidding me?
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Are you fucking I don't I don't know what to say.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: You are using a child for your propaganda? M hm,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: like this boy is being used to strip innocence from boys?
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah? All right? Uh so the next one, and you
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: know what this would.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Just be First of all, the kid is not scary?
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: What the hell is wrong with this woman?
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I know that is not a scary She's she
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: can't watch horror films because they make her squeamish.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: So how is like, okay, how are you supposed to
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: have a working society if you're like that? Lady? Like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you can't be that squeamish? Got you gotta be able
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: to deal with stuff that's awful or you just got
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: to accept that men are gonna deal with stuff that's awful,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: which means you will always rely on them. You will
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: always rely on them. And the fact that you're terrified
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: of a thirteen year old boy, are you flipping mental?
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine watching a man say and she was
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: so that thirteen year old girl was so terrifying?
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: How did we get to.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: This point where a woman isn't laughed at for being
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: terrified of a thirteen year old boy who looks like
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: he's seventy pounds stoking wet. What fine, What is scary
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: about this boy?
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: Nothing?
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: And yet this woman who is probably two hundred and
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: seventeen pounds soaking wet, is terrified of him. I don't know.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe she's only two hundred pounds soaking wet. Uh,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: maybe I'm exaggerated.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's definitely heavier than him.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Oh by a substantial margin.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, Like.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: You could sit on him, lady, You could accidentally sit
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: on him on the couch and not know till you
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: walked out the door and a person said, hey, I
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: think you have something between your ass cheeks, Like, seriously,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: you're afraid of that? You're afraid of that, And nobody
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: calls her out and says this is ridiculous, this is absurdity. Wait,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I bet there's no one in her comments that said,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: are you mental? You're afraid of a thirteen year old
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: old boy? Why?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: A thirteen year old like one of those thirteen year
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: old migrants who's six foot four, right, a tiny little
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: white boy, and you're afraid of him, and I can't
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I can't even imagine the reverse. Whatever happened would ever
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: be treated seriously. Yeah, if you want to be victims
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: of twelve year old boys, ladies, you do not deserve
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: to be in any position of authority whatsoever. How can
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: you be like if a twelve year old boy just
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: steps up and says some stupid thing like yeah, haha, funny,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: and you quail in your boots, how can you be
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: in a position of authority over anyone?
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's play this clip here was.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Doing emotional work with him as well. He was accepting
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: whatever he said as truth as a professional, not like that,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: not just as a person. He starts Panican saying, don't
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: you like me just a bit? Just as a person?
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Don't even like me a bit? What did you think
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: about me?
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Don't like what you think?
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: And he starts Do they just make him crazy? Like? Guy,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: do do boys even act like that? Really?
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Like teacher?
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Did you see that? No? Of course not, no, I
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: mean like that. It's so it's so like they have
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: to make like so so well, okay, I will save
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: it for later, all right, So twenty two, there's a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: little bit more of this.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Screaming and hitting at windows. Once again, this comes back
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: to humiliation and validation. He reacts strongly to rejection as
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: it's closely tied to both of these things. He's feeling
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: rejected at this point, and any time he starts to
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: feel rejected, we've seen him lashing out. And he can't
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: uh out in the same way towards bully is at school,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: but he can lash out this way towards women because
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: he views them as being weaker, them as being less
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: of than, just like he felt his father abjected him
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: when he couldn't look at him when he was.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Playing with eight. Let's let's let's let's analyze this gish
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: gallop Sokay, he by repeatedly pleading with her to like him,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: or to say she likes him a little bit. That's
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: what him exerting power over her.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Because he sees her as weaker. And also, remember this
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: boy is not he's not talking about the boy specifically.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: This is an avatar for the manisphere or all men.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, but you you've constructed this scenario in which this
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: boy sees this woman is weaker in complete defiance of reality. Okay,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: So this the fact that this boy sees this woman
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: is weaker is a feminist construct by the creators of
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: this show. Mm hmm, it's not reality. And also, how
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: is he seeing her as weaker? Okay, so you're essentially saying,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I think that she's calling back to him, saying that
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: he went after the girl after she was socially ostracized
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: because he felt that she was weaker. Okay, let's just
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: imagine that this boy does exist, all right, Why would
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: you assume that this is the average behavior of a boy. Yes, factly,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: he's psychotic, sociopathic, he is an anomaly.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Oh that's impossible, Alison, because this boy came from a
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: regular family with a father and mother, so obviously this
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: is not just normal. But like boys that don't have
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: those that that sort of ideal upbringing are probably worse.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: So that it's almost like, here's a boy that has
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: all of the ideal factors and is a absolute mess
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: and is potentially really violent and hates women and sees
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: them as weaker and all that. So could you imagine
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: how awful it would be if you found a boy
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: that didn't have the ideal conditions? Like this is the
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: picture that's being painted here. It's not supposed to be reality.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: They're gonna take there, They're gonna put this, They're gonna
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: make this advocacy for something. What is this advocacy? You're
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: gonna show this to boys and what are you gonna
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: tell them? This is you unless you uh avoid the
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: manisphere or some ship. That's what they're gonna do. Yeah,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: that's what they're gonna do. They're gonna they're gonna show
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: it to boys and say this is you unless you
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: avoid listening to anybody but us.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right, let's listen some more.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: This whole thing has talked about so much in the book,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: which I've talked about once again in this video here
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: by Matt Brown, which is she is not your rehab
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: when women are seen as the fixes of men, that
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: girls are meant to play caked and heal boys them
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: saying no, it was unacceptable because they aren't getting that
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: love and intimacy from me, that.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: This is the average behavior of boys.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Well, if if girls and women are men's rehab, you're
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: doing a shit poor job of it by your own admission,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Like you're you're saying that he demands that he be
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: rehabbed by women. Well, obviously whatever women in his life
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: are not helping him at all. And then you're saying, well,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have the right to demand that, Well, he
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't have the right to demand that we fail him completely.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: That is not it's not the word failing him completely.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: It's that he doesn't have the right to demand that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: we not fail him completely. This is more excuses for failure.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Hold on a second, I'm just looking something up.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, what shall I continue?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: No, No, it's okay, okay, so I'm jumping ahead to the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: next bit of.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Six.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Let me see, is it?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: So this is going to be presented to boys in
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: the UK system.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: They're going to be showing in schools, which, by the way,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: the school system. They were just complaining in the UK
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: that a lot of schools just show movies, and now
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: they want to show this movie, so like they're they're
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: already doing a shit job in educating kids. Like just
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: like the United States, I'm not just throwing shade one way, I'm.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Just fitball here, all right. As a result of this
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: failed Western society experiment, are we going to get to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: the point where not only women won't be allowed to vote,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: but they won't be allowed to raise children either. I'm
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: just just putting it out there, just the question. Well,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you can't if you can't be seen
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: as being in authority over a child.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go here.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: She's the one that has to carry the burden of
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: being bullied for the fact that she is Jamie's sister.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Was it the words?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's always the trouble.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Everyone causes me, trouble Jamie's sister. That they didn't leave,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: they didn't take it to another school or anything. She's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: been horrendously bullied this whole time. But she has to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: be the one who has thought all of this through
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: and say no, we shouldn't leave, because no matter what
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: we do, this will always find us stated.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, So they ask her what she wants to do,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: and she's the one who decides, and that's still oppression.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: If you don't want to actually live as an entity
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: that makes choices in your life, what's your poor purpose?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's like these feminists they are at war
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: with the invitation to be alive. Yeah, and to make
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: choices that have consequences. They're at war with that. Oh good, lord, Okay,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Let's let's get into the father, because this is like
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: the take home thing and I predicted this and I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: was right, which is what they're going to land on
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: is on the show, is that Jamie is not he
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: is a product of the father in his life, which
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: is statistically like just not likely at all, but they
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: got to invert that. So normally, if there's a child
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: of that is that is, you know, having some behavioral
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: problems or there's some function it's usually because there are
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: problems at home. And the most common way that manifests
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: is a father that is absent, either because he didn't
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: stick around, or more likely the mother has essentially kept
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: his kids from him in some way kicked him out,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: they got divorced, she got the custody, he doesn't know
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: that she's got kids. Whatever, it is, right, And that's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: at least in the United States, and I think this
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: makes sense to see it everywhere. The usually, like if
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: you look at the data for example, for you know,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: violent felons, like overwhelming majority of like over ninety something
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: percent of them come from you know, single parent households,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: which is most likely single mother households, just because of
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: who we tend to leave the kids with when there
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: is a separation. So like no, you where you would
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: like feasibly land if there was a child that was
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: like committing crimes, you would find out that, like there's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: something at home home that they're not getting right. And
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: but but in this we're actually taught that it is
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: a cycle of violence that the father teaches to the son,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: which is like not really normal. In fact, Aaron Pitsey
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: in her work when she opened the first Women's Shoulder
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: in the UK, was that she discovered that there was
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: a cycle of violence was passed down from the mother
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: and that for her hard work and for discovering that,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: the feminist drove her out of the country. And I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: think they tried to kill her dog. So because they
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: didn't like that that answer. It wasn't a good answer.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: It was a bad answer. It was one of the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: bad ones.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: But anyway, society event okay.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: And it's not We're not having this conversation, not again,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: love your mom, she get me wait for hi, I've
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: got wait here. You want to take you here out
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: of college? Do you want to ruin it life as well?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: HI think this dynamic that was seeing between the parents
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: would be so familiar to many of you. I'm sure
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: whether you grew up seeing your care give us fall
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: into this pattern or for gearing yourself just grit was
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: selling with anger issues and the house and so.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it's always the men, right, that are
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: the problem. And of course when they present this theme,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: the point of it is to you.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, go ahead, finish.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Sorry, well, I think you were going to say what
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say. It's the way that they're shooting it.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: So like the wife is just like again, you know,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: smaller terrified, doesn't respond, he's just yelling at her interface.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: That's not how domestic arguments usually go down. But this
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: is how they're going to present it for the show, right,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: And of course, yeah, what were you going to say
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: about it?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Well, what I was going to say is that you
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: look at the same expression on the of the mother's
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: face as was on the counselor's face, was on the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: daughter's face. This is all that feminism has for women
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: is to live life with that expression on your face.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Fuck you, fuck you all.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's keep going.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: There's constant walking on eggshells and trying to make things
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: extra nice, to make sure that they feel appreciated enough,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: so then they're not set off in any way. You're
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: preempting any potential bad thing and making things as nice
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: as possible, so then there's no way that they could
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: possibly lash out at you. And this role of the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: person to make everything extra nize often falls onto women.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: That oh good lord. Okay, the UK statistics are basically
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: made by feminists, so they're useless. But in the US,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: where there's still something like freedom of speech and people
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: still push back against bullshit, they found that women are
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: the most controlling partners. I think they've also found that
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: in the UK, but it was a while back. Women
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: are the ones who are controlling, and it's men who
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: have the greatest amount of anxiety during a conflict in
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: a relationship. All right, So this is absolute bullshit. Statistically,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: they're just inventing this shit, you know, And it's as
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: much as as much as a feminists frame men in
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: a particular way, they're also framing women in a particular way.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: They're inviting women to know, you know, Brian laughed at
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: when I made that face. They're inviting women to live
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: in that and be that and be only that, And
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: I want no freaking part of it. Screw off with
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: your crappy gender roles feminists, all right, all.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: Right, you're watching them when you're like, well, this is
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: just normal life, Like I am so sorry to be
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: the one to tell you that this is not how
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: you should be in a household.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: And again, remember this is fiction. She's looking at a
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: fictional thing, a made up scenario with actors that all
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing, that are specifically putting out a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: certain kind of narrative and a certain framework. And she's saying,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know, but this right
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: here shouldn't be normal. Yeah, it isn't. It's made up.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: It's fiction.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: If you're looking at a dramaticization of the feminist version
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: of reality, and yeah, you shouldn't be normal. And it's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: like it's not.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're looking at a lie and you're telling
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: us that this despite this literally being a lie, that
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: were being shown in a dramatic way to emotionally manipulate us.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: You're trying to say, well, you know, I know that
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: this really happens and it really shouldn't. It's like, no,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't actually happen to this degree. Like what when
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: was the last time you saw a film where you
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: had a white family that had a father and a
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: mother and children and they were like, they loved each
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: other dearly and they did shit together and maybe like
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: if there was some because there has to be conflict,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: that it's something external and the family comes together and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: solves the problem. When was that last? Because it seems
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: like everything you guys put out is about division. It's
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: about people like that are not doing well. They don't
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: get along, there's infighting, and it's like women suffering in
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: silence all the time. Just stop it. It's boring. It's boring,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: and it's derivative. It's it's like beyond trophy. It's a
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: cliche of the highest order. And you still are amazed,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: like it's some new thing that you discovered. Hey, look,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: I just found this new story. Did you know that
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: women are oppressed in this It's brand new, no one's
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: ever done it before, and it's men's fault. Did you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: know that? Beau? So why I don't watch anything anymore
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: because it's all this, it's all this anyway, Let's let's
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: let me see I think twenty five.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really hope that things are better for you
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: now because this is not normal. This is not okay
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: to constantly be scared. Really, that's what the women in
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: this household are, So he is fet so.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Again, you're you're literally gaslighting people about a show that's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: gas lighting people. Even more, like, I hope you're okay.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: What is this grima worm tongue shit, Like, I don't
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: know you, you don't know my situation.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Well, she's talking to all of the victims of narcissists
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: in her audience.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, okay that they themselves are definitely not
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: narcissists that are just trying to confirm their own like pathology.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Curious, desperately trying to clean this off, and he's unable to,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: so he demands that they have to go to the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: store to get the stuff to clean it off. It's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: also really important to know that they haven't moved house.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: They're still in the exact same place where the police
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: raid happened, and all of that neighbors know about this.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: And what we pick up at the start of the
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: show is Eddie is full on with work, like he
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: working all the time. He comes back from his night shift.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: So if the dad is uh, you know, he has
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: to work a lot and what they're what they want. Yeah,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: they are working class people trying to red.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Tuition for his daughter as well. Yeah, unless the unless
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: in the UK daughter.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Well just paying for everything. I guess. I don't know
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: if the mom works or not, but if she doesn't,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: then that's just another feminist talking point that you know,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Dad's patriarchy hurts men too. Men thinking they have to
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: be the bread winners is bad because they're going to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: stress themselves out and murder their wives. And that's the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: reason why it's a problem. And that women, you know,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: like the expectation that women should stay home is outdated
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah, even though people have
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: to work out whatever. Like literally, the reason why we're
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: in a situation where women literally like cannot afford to
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: stay at home is because of feminist that's the reason why.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: That's the reason.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: But anyway, just before the police arrive, but money problems
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: get brought up with his wife, Christine, because you know
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: how many people are really going to hire you to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: do work for them when your son is a murderer,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: you know, like ugh, especially in a small local town
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: like this, everybody knows everybody else's business. They really do
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: establish that, with the neighbors constantly looking over the fence
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: at each other in like a judgmental as opposed to
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: a neighborly way. Instead of him just going by himself.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: He drags it all right, I see I might the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: jump up to another bit here. So this is twenty
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: six thirteen. There is a little bit more. So we'll
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: stay with this for a little while.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Daughter and wife along with him, not as any breakfast yet,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: to the store to try and find some stuff, and
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: he finds someone for help to get this tak off
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: his work then and the guy he's talking to recognizes him,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: and he's like, oh, my goodness, on your side.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: You know you're on side for what it's worth what
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: I've seen any photos of that.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: But he doesn't recognize him.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Oh brother, So yeah, so some kid at the home
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: depot whatever, remember, and recognizes him. And again all the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: men are bad. So he's on the father's side, which
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: is the bad side. I don't know if you guys know,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: but the father is the reason for all of this.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's the cause. He is like the person
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: that took away the innocence of his own son, because
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: he's a toxic man. And that's kind of like the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: twist if you thought that was a twist.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Step into this fever dream you've constructed, Like, but no,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: you have to force it on everyone else. Mm hmm.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: You have to force it on boys, And what are
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: you going to tell them? This is what you are
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: unless you do everything we say you you with the moment,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: If you get a little bit of autonomy and have
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: any control over your own lives, you become monsters little boys.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Yep, uh okay, So let's play the next clip.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Here talk he doesn't do anything. So as my pipes up,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: saying that she and his sister are in the car
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: as well, and he's like, oh, I thought I was
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: just talking to dad, just thinking that you having a
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: casual call with a dad on his birthday, you know,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: saying that, yeah, you're gonna plead guilty to murder because
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: you did it at thirteen. They head inside and because
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: these are English people, they haven't talked about things properly,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: because why would you you just bottle everything up, because
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: that's really really healthy to do.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: You saw the tape, I didn't.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: This isn't you threatening kids? Backing your bum ut. Him
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: going guilty is probably for the best.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to believe it.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: I'm surely keeps on trying to connect with Eddie, and
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: this is where he says about his childhood how his
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: father used to absolutely beat the living hell out of
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: him with a belt.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Really about that?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Huh yeah?
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Like the way that she described that was go back
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: just a little bit. Okay, See we can catch a
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: micro expression with Eddie.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: And this is where he says about his childhood, how
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: his father used to absolutely beat the living hell out
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: of him with it.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Mhm h No.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: I just it feels like there's a little bit too
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: much excitement with that one.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's the excitement about because it satisfies her
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: her bias, so her narrative. Young the fictional story is
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: ultimately about the male cycle of violence from father to son,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: and that like this is where it could break. I guess,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's it all. It's just comes
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: back to men in perpetuity, the belt.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: And he swore that he would never beat up his kids.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: He never wanted to be like his father. But then
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: he's like, but am I worst though, because I've made
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: a murderer and this is where it's revealed that he
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: took Jamie to football, and there's a way to try
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: and connect them both, you know, to be able to
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: their relationship. But because Jamie wasn't good at it, and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: all he had was all of the other dads mocking
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: him being him.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the men, they all they all laughed at
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: him together. I guess see. This is like how like this,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: this is completely unreal, like nothing, and people women will
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: watch this and they'll be like, oh my god, that's
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: the way men are absolutely insane, absolutely insane. Okay, I'm sorry,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Well we're gonna say something when we play the rest
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: of this clip.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: You know, again, if this was just the work of fiction,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: is whatever. But they they think that this is reality
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: and they want to teach it in schools.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Jar Starmer said he called it a documentary. The Prime
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Minister called it a documentary. It was it was this
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: is almost this is like the kind of payload so
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they called it a documentary. This is if this
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: is a documentary, it's a documentary on feminist delusion about reality.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: And they're going to escapegoat this kid because they don't
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: want to be honest about what their policies are doing
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: to their nation. All right, let's keep going.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: He just couldn't look at them. And so they did
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: another very masculine thing, which was boxing, and that didn't
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: work either. Jamie really liked to draw. He was really
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: good at art, and this was something which brought them
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: broth heaps of joy. But you know, painting arn't work.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: That's such a feminine pursuit. That's not masculine at all.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: What would his dad be able to do with that?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: They can't bond you over that? And so they started
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: playing like football games, like, so.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Who's they like? She said that they were bonding over art? Well,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: then what's wrong with them?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Oh no, she said that they wouldn't be able to
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: bond over art because but he said that they why no, no,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: the no, go back, go back.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: She said, they got joy out of it.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Let me see me.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's just not all.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: What would it's dad be able to do with that?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: They can't bond you over that?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: And so they can't. But is it further back.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, painting aren't work. That's such a feminine pursuit that's
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: not masculine at all.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Able to do with that, like, okay, okay.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: Didn't work either. Jamie really liked to draw. He was
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: really good at art, and this was something which brought
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: them both heaps of joy. But you know, painting work,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: that's such a fact.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: I think that she's just misspeaking or or she was
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: trying to, like essentially suggest that men don't do art
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: at all because it's feminine, which is bullshit because all
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: the great painters are men, but that's probably because they
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: kept women out of it. And yeah, this thing, this
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: kind of pisses me off too, because like I was
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: the artsy kid. My father was a sporty person. But
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I get along with my father, Like we didn't have
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: any problems. He was proud of me for doing art,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: even though he didn't do it himself. And I didn't
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: play basketball.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, you live in reality. Yeah, causality here,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: we're trying to get the causality. So the boy wasn't
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: good at sports. He was an artist, though, but he
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: couldn't connect to his father through the art. So artist
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: feminine something something murder.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah something something murder. Yeah, basically I mean I guess,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, that's why they didn't connect. But let's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: let's let's hear.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: This feminine pursuit that's not masculine at all. What would
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: its dad be able to do with that? They can't
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: bond it over that, and so they started playing like sport.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: When when did women decide that? Like, when did anybody
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: decide that art was feminine? When did that happen? I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: don't think that ever happened, But for some reason, feminists
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: claim that that art is feminine and that, and then
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: boys who do art they're they're you know, they're they're
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: fighting gender roles or something like. That's bullshit. Frank Frizetta.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Was he fighting general roles when he drew Conan paintings?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Was fighting gender roles?
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Like when art became an expression of emotion and virtue
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: and lost all of its focus on merit. Okay, but
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: let me let me, let me let me point something out,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: let me point something out. This is all like they've
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: literally taken female feminist ideology and this is like dramaticization
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: dramatis Okay, how do you pronounce that?
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Brian dramatic dramatization, dramatization.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Dramatization of feminist theory the musical like like even this, oh,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: the reason why he became violent was because he denied
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: his girl cell his girls. That's why it happened. It's
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: themophobia all along.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Yep, okay, yep, okay.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: I do want this to be done.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah that this is the last clip. I just
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: need another.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Let me see.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: Like a few seconds games like computer games together and
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: that was kind of okay, but they were still weren't connecting.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: And that was when Jamie wanted the computer, and so
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: he got the computer. And it's just like, well, all
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: teenagers just lock themselves in their room and it's like,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: I know that I did, but maybe not all teenagers
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: do that. And Eddie said he had no idea what
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: Jamie was looking at and how he Eddie when he
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: was just looking up videos for the gym or something
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: for like workouts, how he was starting to get that
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: sort of red pool same stuff and saying how women
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: should be treated. And I've told you in the past
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: this exact same thing hadn't.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just going on the internet, guys, the red pill's
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: gonna get you. It's waiting. It's in the Facebook reels.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: We're on shorts right now. I you know, if you
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, if you go home and beat your wife.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: But I didn't tell you to do it, just saying
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: because apparently that's what happens. He was like, I'm just
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: looking up gym stuff, and all of a sudden, he was,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: you know this is what you do to bitches. Oh man,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I can't take my eyes off
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: of it. It's getting me.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 7: It's getting me in my hand, my pimp hand is
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 7: becoming strong. I can't stop it. Go home now and
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 7: use it. I gotta use it. The energy it's in
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 7: my hand I got, it's built up. I gotta spend it.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 7: This is so ridiculous. I was on the internet and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 7: it just turned me into a woman hater?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Did you just see like women
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: telling you about themselves online? Is that what it is?
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Just people telling the truth.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: Manisphere doesn't turn men into women haters, it's women online.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: The Manisphere now is actually like the most popular channels.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: They're like super guynocentric. They're super blue pilled in a
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: lot of ways, but that doesn't matter because it's not
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: the right kind. That's that's what it comes down to.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: They want them to serve women their way, and they
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: and they want them to not exist, like this whole
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: thing happened because men were not allowed to have their
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: own spaces, and now they go online looking for spaces.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I have This is why I have
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: no interest in like going after popular content creators that
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: talk to men, whether it's Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: or Fresh and Fit or whatever or whatever podcast. I'm
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: not interested because they exist because people like this drove
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: men there, and I think that men are way better
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: off over there with those people than dealing with these people.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: These people are monsters. They are the worst kind of people,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: the absolute worst for men. Like this is where the
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: suicide it's come from. Okay, not not like these you know,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: these PUA types. At least they're trying to help them.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: At least they acknowledge that men have problems. You know,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: these people, don't they say that men are the problem?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Which one would? You would prefer so, And.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't think. I really don't think that they're
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: the ones that are making men hate women. I don't
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: think we're the ones that are making men hate women.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: I think the women on TikTok are the ones who
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: are making men hate women. If men even hate women. Yeah, Like,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, lady, but this is a direct result of
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: what women are saying about men overwhelmingly on the internet.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: Do you honestly think that you know, I don't know,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: back in the internet stone hinge, you know, when when
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: we were just still erecting like stone pillars that for
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: for like our computers or whatever. Do you think that
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: the men came on women on the internet and the
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: women like, we really love men, we really cherish them,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: and we're so grateful for everything they do, or even
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: just I think, you know, men have generally helped me
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: in my life and they've made my life better, and
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: I like my male friends and my family, and I
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: really think that they should be supported in their issues.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: You think that men came upon an internet like that
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: and then we're just, oh, these bitches, I hate them.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, this is like.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: You think that there's nothing that men were just it's
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: just coming out of nowhere. You can see all of
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: the tiktoks in which women say the most vile crap
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: about men, and then we even have feminism, which says
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: vile crap about men. You look into all the feminist
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: conjecture around domestic violence and sexual assault. They think that
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: men use rape and domestic violence to enforce patriarchy. And
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: it's really interesting because now they're saying, oh, it's the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: Internet that does that. Well what what? How is that?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is a common feminist refrain
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: well before the Internet, because they know they need boys
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: and men. They want to bring in this crap and
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: they want to say that this is your behavior unless
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: you do as we say. That's what it's about. It despicable.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: I honestly, anybody, any boy or man listening to me,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: if your society doesn't give you a place, doesn't recognize
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: your unique value and worth as a boy and as
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: a man and your masculinity, then it doesn't deserve it.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: The end. You don't have to hate anyone. You just
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: have to recognize your worth.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: Does this woman? Is this woman worth it? No? Is
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: she worth going to work every day and making sure
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: there's posible water.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: I mean you're probably still gonna do it, so you
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: have it. But is she worth it? I don't think so.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: I mean you can make that decision, but counjudging solely
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: based on her attitude and the fact that she's a
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: massive coward, The fact that she wouldn't make a good
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: mother because she can't accept the concept of having authority
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: over somebody and being in a position of protecting them.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: You know what's really freaking fascinating to me. Recently we
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: watched and this relates Beetlejuice, the original Beetle Juice, not
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: the crap that they remedeed into, the anti anti natalist,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: anti family crap, okay, but the original one. Geena Davis's character,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: at one point, after being sort of molested by Beetlejuice,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: says she's not concerned about herself. She says, we need
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: to keep that man away from this younger girl. So
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: she's she is occupying a maternal spot and maternal authority,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: maternal protection this woman can offer neither. And all of
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: the women who are pissing themselves a little over a
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: thirteen year old boy for whatever reason, I think some
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: are deeply unsavory, but they can offer no maternal protection
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: for children. They are not worthy of being mothers in
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: my opinion. So I mean, what is it that you're
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: sacrificing for. Okay, let's keep let's let's finish this.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: Get that sort of red pill, same stuff, and saying
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: how women should be treated. And I've told you in
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: the past this exact same thing happened to Brandon, because
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: Brandon's always been interested in finance and financial independence and
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: all that other stuff and those sorts of ways. Anything
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: about confidence, anything about making more money, anything about looking better,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: those are all places where these.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: It's interesting because I guess our content doesn't classify because
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: we don't talk about looking better. We don't want to
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: talk about attracting women or financial stuff. We talk about
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: issues that men have, all of the things that she describes,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: not the stuff that we talk about.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: No, but I mean, but I wonder if you think
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: All, right, let's think about here, so getting richer, looking better,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: attracting women. Right, And then she says that if you
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: look at this content, eventually you'll end up in the manisphere.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Now is that because the manisphere is some kind of
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: evil entity lurking on the internet, or is it because
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: they are actually able to give men stuff that works
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: when it comes to attracting women, making money, and being attractive.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: Because here's the thing like that at some point, like
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: the way that they're defining the manosphere is basically wherever
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: I get uncomfortable as a woman. Now, if let's say
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: they actually do know what attracts women, what makes them
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: want to stay in a relationship, and all of that
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: other stuff. If they actually do know, but it is
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: seen by these women as being unflattering, wouldn't that explain
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: why there's this connection, Like, at some point men have
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: to understand what women want, and maybe that's unflattering to women,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: which is why she's saying that, which is why manosphere
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: content keeps getting getting when a man, like when a
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: man does a search for how to be attractive for women,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: you know, at first it's blue pill stuff, but eventually,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: you know, it gets purple pill, red pill, and eventually
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: he's in the pickup artist because they do it best.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: But she doesn't like it because it's unflattering.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so at what point?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: Now, so this this is completely defined by her and
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: her sensibilities. I know, I was just the thought that
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: I was following.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's whatever conclusion. I got a rumble rant I
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: want to read out really quick. Thank you Nova fan
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: twenty one for the dollar. And he says, feminis seeing
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: a TikTok of women being terrible people. It's not real,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: that's fake and scripted saying feminist when watching a Netflix's adolescence,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: this is just like real life. Yep, It's that's true.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Like like those Men on the Street videos where the
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: guys like saying how much money you know, like how
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: much money do you think I managed to make? And
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: all he's all he's showing is like how removed from reality?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of these women are where because they don't
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: really know, like it's and I say this without like
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: you know, with no shame, because I think that if
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: you're accustomed to men throwing money at you and stuff
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: at you and like you know, growling at your feed
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: and all this other like simp shit, I think that
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: women like that are going to have like a delusional
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: like worldview on like what the world is like. So
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: when they say, oh, you's got to make two hundred
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars a month, you know you just
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: share that online if you're like, well, that doesn't happen,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: that's that's not real. It's like yeah, no, that's literally
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: like I'm not saying it's widespread, but yeah, there are
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: women that think this, and there are men who give
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: them enough you know, like attention and their resources and
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: whatever that they would start to actually believe that, so
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: that this is not really only a problem with women
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: that have unrealistic expectations, but it's also with men who
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: just you know, just give everything away because they think
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: that if they give enough to a woman that they
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: might reciprocate, and some some men just have money to
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: throw away like that, and uh so, yeah, I mean
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: it's a number of factors that come together on that,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: especially when you consider that we are now operating in
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: kind of a global daity market. Like that means that
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: like Saudi princes can just like you know, fly in
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: and fly that happens all the time. Like women you know,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Instagram models or whatever Instagram thoughts that get flown out
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: to like Dubai for a weekend. That happens all the time.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Like let's not pretend like it doesn't happen. But also
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: like let's also like be you know, kind of like
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: grounded and like, well, why does this happen? Where does
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: and and but adolescens that doesn't doesn't really happen like
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: what this is trying to portray?
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, people, real people saying things in public
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: or on their channels is real. Adolescence is a fiction
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: that was constructed specifically from a feminist view of reality,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: which itself is on a means by which to extort
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: resources out of extremely wealthy men and men have money
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: and clout. Like that's let's just be honest here. Yeah,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: Like feminism doesn't describe reality. It's just a set of
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: tools to extort compliance out of men. And this is
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: how they're gonna use it. They're gonna put it into
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: these into these schools, and they're gonna say, little Timmy,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: unless you listen to everything we say and put us first,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: you're gonna turn into a monster like this boy. That's
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: what it's gonna happen. They're just gonna keep using it
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: for the same thing over and over again. It's like
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: the uh, it's like the monsters from Monster Inc. They
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: use the scream to power their their their world. That's
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: what feminists do. They use men's shame and guilt to
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: power their world. So they just gotta go out and
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: they gotta they gotta stoke, They gotta seed the harvest
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: of of guilt and among the young boys so that
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: they can harvest it later. Although, to be honest, if
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: Hannah's co worker is right, and kids are just be
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: getting more and more feral. I don't think that's gonna
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: work for very long. I think you need you need
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: something passing for a father to feel guilt. Okay, maybe
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: that's the real problem, is that they're finding out that
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: kids without fathers, yeah, or as we say, not necessarily
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: nice people who care about others just put it out there. Okay,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: let's keep going. Well, are we done?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: I mean that's yeah, that's basically it. I mean she
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: basically essentially yeah, she just says that, like, you know,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: even if you're not a violent father, you can have
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: a bad impression on your son by being a toxically
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: masculine father, and basically father's it's impossible for them to
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: be good enough unless they're just not in the house.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Doesn't say that explicitly, but that's kind of where it lands.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah, there's really no solutions as usual. It's just like, ladies,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: fear men, men, do whatever you can to avoid this
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: red pill content because we're gonna it's gonna make you
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: into a kind of person we don't like, and you
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: have to do everything your power to stop it. And
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Laura Bates was right, that's basically what she lands on
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: so oh, of course.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: And like I said, it's it's not supposed to be reality.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: It's just a tool. I bet they don't even think
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: it's reality. They're just enjoying the fact that they've discovered
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: yet a new, a new tool to enforce the same
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: thing they've been doing for generations, you know, just just
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: gonna put it into school and they're gonna say, hey, hey,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: what's you biting me for? Yeah, you came up here
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: for affection and now you don't want it. Geez Okay.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: They're just gonna bring it into a school and uh, okay,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: now I'm cautious petting her stay away from my courts.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: They're gonna bring it into a school, and they're just
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: gonna use it as a way of manipulating boys into
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: doing what they want. Hey, yeah, you can't be by
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: the courts, okay, And.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: That's I I got a super chat Albertnita retrog Is,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: a two dollars Canadian says I hate them all pee
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: ways are the biggest simps.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: You know, Albert, could you tell us why you're still
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: at this channel? Like, yeah, I don't you know, I
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: don't have a necessarily have a problem with you being here.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: But I just wonder for your own sake, like why
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: are you at a channel like this, Like you seem
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: to have a lot of very very strong dislikes for
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: people that we don't have a concern about, or if
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: we do, it's sort of like it's.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: Some I don't. I don't have a concern. I mean,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: if you look Guinea, if you want those guys to
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: go away, then you're gonna have to give men uh
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: a reason not to go there. And so men go
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: there like it can't be helped. And this is just
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: where the conversation is now, and I just don't. I'm
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm sorry, I can't be bothered. Like it's
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: like I said, already, men have. Men today have two choices.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Either go to the red pill stuff or they go
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: to the feminist stuff. That's what they're because and the
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: feminist stuff keeps them from doing anything else. So they're
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: gonna end up there, And I'm okay with it because
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: I'd rather they were over there than dealing with people
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: like this. All right, but.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: You have earned the floor, okay. So I think the
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: other thing, just to just to sum up, is boys
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: do want to be attractive to girls, and it's extremely
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: difficult to find any information about how to do so
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: from people who regard boys' attractions to girls as being
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: of the devil and objectifying and extremely toxic, shall we say, right?
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm looking how they depict it here this
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: this boy is attracted to a girl, and he literally
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: says he goes after her when she's weak. I mean,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: that's terrible writing.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: It's like he's just.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: What, Yeah, by the way, I'm just going to clearly
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: enunciate my motivations based in feminist theory. Nobody's like, that's
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: terrible writing. But regardless, how is that boy supposed to
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: find out where? Like, where is he going to learn
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: how to become attractive to women? Except from red pill
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: car It's the only content that I see that even
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: addresses that. I mean, have you seen any blue pill
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: content that really talks about being attractive to women aside
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: from where a pussy hat, well some manifesto.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a time there's tons of Blue Pill
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, here's how to groom a
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: woman or like, because ultimately, if it's about like increasing
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: your status to attract women, that's not even like in
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: the realm of like red pill content. It's just normal
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: like guys trying to help guys out content like you
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: can find it anywhere, So they think of that as
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: being they do because it doesn't. If it isn't inherently feminist,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: then it's red pill content. That yes, if it isn't
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: inherently feminist, it's red pill. That's okay.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: So where do they Where do they get any kind
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: of information on this if they want it out that
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't tell them to wear a pussy hat, carry a
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: copy of scum manifesto, cry about women's uh, women's right
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: to choose, you know, a drop of the hat and
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: all of this other stuff, which and then they do
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: it and it gets them laughed at by women and
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: girls like because that's not what they want. Like, where
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: do they go to get advice about attracting women outside
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: of people who will tell them lies because the truth
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: is unsavory to them, you get what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: And they have to go to what these people term
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: is red pill because everything that recognizes that maybe women's
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: desires aren't as angelic and fluffy, cloud white as the
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: feminists think they are. Any place that does that is
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: beyond the pale. It's red pill, right, That's what I'm
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: getting at, so that there will always be this push
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: to content like this that allows boys to understand the
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: world better. All right, but anyway, and understand women's attractions better. Okay.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: So I just wanted to point that out, and uh, okay,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: are we done? We're done?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We're done.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: Okay O, good lord. I'll see if we have any
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Thank youse. By the way, if you want to support
• 1:42:54
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• 1:42:56
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• 1:43:00
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• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: a doozy.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 8: There's going to be a lot of people on this
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 8: program that will laugh at that, and there will be
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 8: several who would probably be quite indignant. I am not
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 8: indignant because this is indicative of the bad manners of
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 8: a lot of chauvinist ladies.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Oliver. I wasn't trying to hit that, but
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: I accidentally did when I was opening up the But
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: it's perfect, it is.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: It was a lot of chauvinist ladies. Yes, okay. So
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: I do want to thank Richard Beer who put in
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars to the fundraiser.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Liberation Madam will never survive, and
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: yet it.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Did and prospered because it hijacked.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not over yet. We could, we will will,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: we could lose everything and then it would technically not survive,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: but that'd be after the end of everything.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So at the restaurant at the end of
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: the world, let's all meet there or the end of
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: the universe. Yeah, okay, well I think I'm good. Feed
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• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you to Richard, thank you for the suggestion. It
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: is something that does need to be covered because apparently,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: like Brian is saying, feminists are looking at a dramatics
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: dramatization of feminism and they're saying, oh my god, it's
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: so true and it's not the way it should be.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: And of course, as we all know, feminism is a
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: tool to make men do what feminists say, so essentially
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: they're just using their tools. This is another frickin tool
• 1:44:45
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• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Oh I got one lart one last super chat the
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: last second. I might as well read it. The red
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Pill Bros. This is Albernata retro again for ten dollars Canadian.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: The red pill bros aren't even red pilled. They are
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: snake oil salesman. If you guys don't like my opposition
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: to that trash, I'll go away, no problem. And Joy,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: that's not what I say. Enjoy your fascism, Albert oh Man,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: what like, basically you know what you're doing right now.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: You're basically saying you have to have my opinions otherwise
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like support you. Guys or whatever.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, Albert is what I should.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Get your priorities straight. That's all I'm gonna.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: Say, say, Albert, what is it that we give you?
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: But what I meant is that we so offend you
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: with some of our opinions about Trump, about Andrew Tate
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: not being satan maybe you know, whatever's going on with
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: him legally or what he says not being satan, and
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: probably also Peterson. I think there's other people that you've
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: gotten really upset over and not knowing who Ralph Nader is.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: I just forgot, that's all.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: No, that wasn't Albertnator somebody else.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: That's Albatross. I'm pretty sure that's him.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Albatross, that's a different person.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think it is, but maybe it is. Okay,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: we're regardless. My point is we so offend you. So
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: what is it that you're here for? And I'm not
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: saying you need to leave. I'm just curious what is
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: it we give you that keeps you coming back? Because
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: that would be interesting to know anyway. That's all I
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: have to say to that. Hopefully.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like, feel whatever you want to feel
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: about it. We're gonna be here making content. You can watch,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: you can don't watch. I don't care. But like, like,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: if you think that it's my job to stop people
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: like Fresh and Fit the Tape Brothers are pearl for
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: making content. I don't know what to tell you. I
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: don't have their clout. So if you want to give
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: me a bunch of the cloud that they have so
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: that I can like talk to them, that'd be great.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: But that's not We're tiny. We stay tiny. We've been
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: tiny for ten years. That's just the reality. So we're
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: doing what we can here, but you're not helping. You're
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: just saying why aren't you doing this? And it's like,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: we're doing our thing, guys, like, just let us do
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: our thing, you know, like what it's like, It's like,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: why aren't you answering for people you've never spoken to,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: that would never talk to you or give you the
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: time of day. Why haven't you like said something to them?
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: I can't. I'm doing this out of a two bedroom
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: apartment in Virginia because it's just just barely getting by
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: here and people are still saying, why aren't you doing enough?
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: It's crazy making I'm sorry. I'm not those people. I'm
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: doing my fucking thing, and we're doing our thing here.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: I get pulled in all kinds of directions. I got
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: nanny telling me I should be doing this. I got
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Peter Wright coming down my throat for something else. And
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: then you're telling me that I have to like disavow
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: so and so who doesn't know my name. It's stupid.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do my show. Okay, so watch
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: it or don't watch it. I don't care. But don't
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: expect me to just like do the work of other
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: people like I can't answer for them. It's not possible.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: They don't know me like this.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: God, Okay, I'm sorry, No, it's okay. But I think
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: that right here, you're probably answering for something that I did.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Albert Nada Retro, I didn't mean that
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: you have to leave. I'm asking you why you stay,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: like genuinely think about it. Why are you here instead
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: of with the left content bashing Andrew Tate and Trump
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: and Jordan Peterson. And I don't think that we're particularly
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: pro any of those people. We take what the things
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: they say for what they are. But I'm just curious,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: like search your soul. Why are you here? And that's
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: not to say, you need to leave, but why do
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: you stay? What keeps you here?
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, Okay, I again, we were lucky
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: enough to have Peterson on once. All I will say
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: is that there are there are people in our corner
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: of the woods that make content, and I guarantee you
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: that some of them, if not all of them, have
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: saved men's lives at some point. Like Peterson used to
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: get people who would come up to him and say
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: that they were very low and they were very depressed,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: and they almost took their own life, and he stopped
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: them from doing that. Now, maybe in somebody's imagination they
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: would prefer that it was somebody like Karen that did that,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: but the fact is it wasn't. It was somebody like
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, but it probably was. He probably stopped some
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: guy from committing suicide. The somebody else probably did something
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: like that too. I can't answer for people who don't
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: know me. I can only do what I do. It
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: would be like it would be like and I'm not mad,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not mad. I just think it's just kind
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: of retarded. But it would be like it's it's sort
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: of like the Nick thing. So like Nick Redding would
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: come into our chat and he would basically demand that
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: we do actual activism and that because we're not doing it,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: that somehow we're not worthy of being on the internet
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: doing anything. And I'm just like, dude, why don't you
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: go do that? Then like start a channel and start
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: talking on your channel about whatever you want and take
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: whatever stands you want. And I wish you all the best,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: and I hope you have a gigantic audience and everything
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: turns out well. But we are not part of some organization.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: Like I can't pick up the phone and get like
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: tait On and s hey man, could you would you
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: mind stopping with all the stuff that you're alleged of doing,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: because it's not gonna do anything. It's kind of like
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: a waste of energy. And I don't really like somebody
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: mentioned the chat, it's it's just like promoting infighting, that's right.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be involved with that because
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: I think that what we're up against is like thousands
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: of times worse than you know, some of this other
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: shit that's going on in the background. I just don't care.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I have to get my priorities in order. Okay,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: So I want to. I want to stop men from
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: killing themselves. I want to stop people from cutting babies genitals.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: I want to ensure that fathers can stand their homes.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that boys get like the
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: best opportunities possible. And I hope that men and women
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: can come together and form families. That's that's it. That's
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: like what Pearl does none of my business. I don't care.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: If she helps out, that's great. Whatever somebody else is doing,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: I don't care. But like just me shitting on these people, no,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, even people that I don't
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: really care for, like Chloe Roma. I don't want her
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: shut down. She should be able to go and make
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: her content. I'm not going to come out here and disavow.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: But if she says something I disagree with, then I
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: will basically say, here's what I take issue with. That's it.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: Like I'm you know, that's just what I do. I'm sorry,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: But like like I said, help out or don't help out,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: it's fine.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: But he does. This is where the question is coming from. Yeah,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: and I get what you're saying. It's just like, you
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: keep to what you can do, you keep to what
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: you think you keep to discussing people's ideas, although occasionally
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: we discuss their micro facial expressions, but that's on me.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Then the question becomes like if you're like, well, I
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: don't like Fresh and Fit or Tate or Pearl, I
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: mean like, this is what I said earlier in the show,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: like I've been when I was doing this, when we
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: were doing this, those people didn't exist. They weren't they
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: weren't on the internet at all. So here now So
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: the question is not do we hate these people or not?
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: The question is how did it get to this? Well,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you how. It was because of feminism. It's
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: because of these these hr parpies that have essentially over time,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: done more and more damage and have demonized men more
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: and more, where men are basically going to further and
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: further extremes to find something that they can call theirs.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: It's not my fault this happened, and it's not even
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: the fault of people like Pearl that it happened. It's
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: literally feminists that created these people. And the next wave
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: is gonna be worse than this one is. So if
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: we don't do something about feminism, then that's just gonna
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: keep getting worse, you see. So we're we're like, and
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: I don't care about that, Like the damage that is
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: being done, whatever that is really is only damaging feminism.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: It's it's like, it's not my problem because I'm still
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: doing things my way here. So we know we've been here. Yeah,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: we've been doing this longer than any of them. But like,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: the algorithm favors what it favors, so I can't do
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: anything about that.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: Well, the favors. The thing is that for now, the
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: algorithm favors men's question, Like, look at what she says.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: The algorithm favors how to become more attractive to women,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: how to gain financially and how to become more attractive,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: you know, more attractive to women, and how to I
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: don't get swollen, right, that is all about being attractive
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: to women, is about living up to their standards. It's
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: about putting their centering their standards. And that's not what
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: we do here. We're not telling men this is how
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: you live up to women's standards. We're saying, hey, maybe
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: we should hold women to higher standards. So it's a
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: different it's a different focus, and that kind of stuff
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: gets a lot of attention. It gets a lot of
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: play because there still are a lot of men who
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: want to, you know, get a woman in their life.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: They want to become appealing to men or to women,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: and that's be very important to them, and there's nothing
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: wrong with that. That should be important to them. But
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: that's not the message that we're giving. The message is
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: are women good enough? Right? Are women worthy of the
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: men that they hold to these standards?
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: And also is our society treating men in a way
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: that's reasonable and logical and compassion in my opinion, I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: would hope also compassionate. You know, I know that men
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: like to hold themselves to standards. They like to be
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: held to standards, But are those standards realistic or are
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: they a lie? Are you being held to? Are you
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: being guilted for not doing the best that you can be?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: Are you being shamed for being a man? I mean,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: these are the things that we need to talk about.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: It's these are men's issues. They're not how to become
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: more attractive, They're existential questions about is the society I'm
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: a part of worth it? And if it isn't, is
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: there a way we can change that? How does that
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: need to be changed? You know, it's a very different conversation.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: So and you know, like, uh, I don't know if
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: Pearl would be equipped to have a conversation like that.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe she would be. I don't think Tate could even
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: begin to really comprehend it. Peterson probably could, but he's
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: in his grumpy Internet granddaddy era, so I'm not exactly
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: sure where we'd go with that. But yeah, it's like,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. And really, all I meant was,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: why do you still come back? What is it we're
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: giving you? Because it's obvious you're taking some value from it,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: and I'm really curious what it is because it seems
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: like you hate our opinions on a lot of different
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: matters and yet you're still here supporting us. Yeah, so
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious. That's all I meant. I didn't mean
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: to like get it up in everybody's schnoots and make
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: it make it into it like a fur flying thing.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: That's all I meant. But anyway, so with that, I
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: think you definitely need to start winding down. So feed
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• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I already did the like, share, subscribe
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: and all that. But okay, all right, thanks guys for
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: coming on the show.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: We're waving and smiling, but it was just I know,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: I know, it's all right.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: Well, the super chats come in like the last possible second,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: and it's like it's kind of yeah, no, no, none
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: of that. That's okay, all right, we're gonna go, guys.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on.