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Preparing Your Kids for the New World Order | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: My name is germ this is germ warfare.
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Speaker 1: The battle of ideas.
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Speaker 2: Uh all right cool man uh james we're back and
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Speaker 2: uh i don't know what to say you look like
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Speaker 2: oh what is that on your head.
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Speaker 1: This little guy, we used to have this little crazy
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Speaker 1: French bulldog and this reminded me of her. I saw
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Speaker 1: it at a farmer's market, so I had to buy it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's 15 days till Halloween, you know,
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Speaker 1: like I told you in the beginning, I'm a prepper.
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Speaker 1: So we got to get silly and live a little
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Speaker 1: or we go insane from the state of affairs. You
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Speaker 1: know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: I actually agree with you. The idea of humor is
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Speaker 2: so important. You know, we get so caught up in
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Speaker 2: the doom-scrolling culture that it's such a good thing just
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Speaker 2: to laugh a little, even at absurdities.
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Speaker 1: Yes, fun. I did a short show with one of
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Speaker 1: my hosts, Judson Carroll. He's an herbal medicine maniac. And
1:29
Speaker 1: this show was supposed to be 10 minutes long. It
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Speaker 1: turned into two hours of us diagnosing society on a
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Speaker 1: whole about just how come we don't have fun anymore
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Speaker 1: and how come we can't make comedies.
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Speaker 2: That is something I said to my wife just two
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Speaker 2: nights ago. I said that the problem at the moment is,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know what, What the cause of it is,
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Speaker 2: I suspect, James, that it's social media that has consumed
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Speaker 2: our minds. But stand-up comedy is terrible at the moment.
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Speaker 2: There is just about nothing good out there. And it's
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Speaker 2: the same with comedy in general.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Well, everything's curated and perfected and broken down
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Speaker 1: into something, a pattern that you can follow to become
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Speaker 1: a millionaire or things that you should avoid because it'll
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Speaker 1: negatively affect your online presence.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that I get accused of is
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Speaker 2: sometimes talking about nonsense like this. And I think that
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of value in what you and I
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Speaker 2: are talking about. A, We're talking about a solution right
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Speaker 2: off the bat, and that is laughing, which is the
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Speaker 2: best medicine.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 2: Not taking ourselves too seriously because the world is very serious.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man. You got what? I'm 40, you know. I'm
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Speaker 1: halfway there. I'm half to the finish. Like, you're damn
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Speaker 1: right I'm going to have a good time. It's insane.
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Speaker 1: Life's so short. You know what I mean? And here
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Speaker 1: we are, right? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem with the alternative space is that people
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Speaker 2: also don't understand laughter. They don't understand satire.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, definitely, yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know, somebody says something as a joke, tongue-in-cheek, and
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Speaker 2: they take it seriously. Oh, see what so-and-so said.
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Speaker 1: Clipped. Yeah, clipped for social media.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also that six-second culture now where they'll–
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Speaker 2: Take six seconds out of an hour-long conversation and then
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Speaker 2: throw that on social media.
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Speaker 1: I like that phrase, six-second culture. That's pretty good. Is
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Speaker 1: that yours?
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Speaker 2: Did you coin that? Well, I made it up right now,
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Speaker 2: but actually I don't think I did. of that scene from, uh,
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Speaker 2: there's something about Mary, uh, when he's in.
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Speaker 3: The car, you know, that great comedy, you know, that,
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Speaker 3: you know, that scene, uh, it picks up that, that,
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Speaker 3: that hitchhiker six second abs seven, no seven second abs.
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Speaker 1: Seven second. It is. Yeah. That's great though. And I
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Speaker 1: think it was Ben Siller. Hey, he's a, he's the
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Speaker 1: guy driving and he says, well, what if somebody brings
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Speaker 1: out six second abs? No, man, seven second abs, seven second. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: that's a great comedy. But to your point, that is
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Speaker 1: a lot of what it is. It's about a six-second
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Speaker 1: culture nowadays. I think it gets in the way of
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Speaker 1: prepping to some degree because some of the best things
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Speaker 1: in prepping take time, you know, take reps, take repetition,
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Speaker 1: take learning, and everybody wants that six-second answer like you're
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Speaker 1: talking about, right?
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Speaker 2: The problem also is our side likes to throw around
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Speaker 2: the term bread and circuses. So anything that's entertaining– That's.
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Speaker 1: A good point.
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Speaker 2: Bread and circuses, oh, you're just wasting your time. You know,
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Speaker 2: you're being distracted. But you do need to be distracted
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Speaker 2: also from time to time. Otherwise, you'll slit your wrist.
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Speaker 1: For sure. Or you'll become a robot. You'll lose the
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Speaker 1: most important thing there is to lose, which is yourself, right?
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Speaker 1: You'll lose that inner child that's been with you forever. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's not that hard. It's really not that
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Speaker 1: hard to extinguish that. And I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: can get it back. I don't know. I got lucky.
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Speaker 1: I married a woman who has as big an inner
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Speaker 1: child as myself. So we have a good time. But
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Speaker 1: to your point, yeah, yeah, we got to get things done.
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Speaker 1: We got to get, you know, everything straightened out with
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Speaker 1: Doge and all that. So we can't have any time
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Speaker 1: for fun and a good time. But then again, you know,
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Speaker 1: you see these guys in their free time. You look
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Speaker 1: at Donald Trump, you look at Elon Musk, they're always
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Speaker 1: going out having a ball, going to sports games and
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Speaker 1: concerts and all that kind of stuff. So I don't know, maybe, uh,
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Speaker 1: Maybe we make some of this stuff up in our
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Speaker 1: own head, you know?
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Speaker 2: I watch a bit of UFC and a bit of
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Speaker 2: rugby from time to time. Now, you as an American
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Speaker 2: probably don't know what rugby is.
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Speaker 1: I know what rugby is, man. If you asked me
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Speaker 1: to write the rules down, it would be a proper comedy. But,
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Speaker 1: you know, I got an idea, you know. But it's
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Speaker 1: American football. We do here in my house. We watch
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Speaker 1: the Eagles, of course. But it's, you know, the UFC
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Speaker 1: is great. Boxing is great. I'll tell you what's great, man.
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Speaker 1: 1FC is great. If you want to watch some. Oh, man.
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Speaker 1: That's my favorite. 1FC is amazing. It's on Prime. It's free.
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Speaker 1: And it's everything. They wrestle. They do jujitsu. Not together. Like,
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Speaker 1: they'll do wrestling matches, submission grappling, Muay Thai on its own,
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Speaker 1: kickboxing on its own, and MMA. And it's fighters from
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Speaker 1: all around the world. I love it. Muay Thai is
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Speaker 1: picking up. It's the best sport there is, I think,
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Speaker 1: to watch. It's my favorite. It's my favorite. It's my
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Speaker 1: favorite martial art to boot. It's amazing. It's so complete.
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Speaker 1: Why is it your favorite? Because it's absolutely applicable in
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Speaker 1: real life situations. I think the dirty boxing, the use
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Speaker 1: of knees and elbows is just, you're in close proximity
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Speaker 1: in a situation, in a self-defense situation. It lends itself
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Speaker 1: to that. It teaches people how to attack the legs, right?
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Speaker 1: Which I think is, it's a game changer in a fight.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You see people standing there
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Speaker 1: throwing big looping hooks at each other most of the time.
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Speaker 1: And you can attack the legs on a person. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been kicked by somebody
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Speaker 1: who knows how to kick. I had a bruise on
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Speaker 1: my leg for a week by getting kicked through a
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Speaker 1: pad that was probably four inches thick from a guy
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Speaker 1: who was training Muay Thai at a local gym with me.
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Speaker 1: Just a guy who was decent, I guess. So you can...
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Speaker 1: really get good and really do some damage with your
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Speaker 1: whole body and become multidimensional. It could be a product
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Speaker 1: of the fact that it's just ancient and well-practiced, you know,
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Speaker 1: being the military martial art for Thailand and everything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had dinner with a Thai, I think he's Thai,
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Speaker 2: Muay Thai champion. I forget his name now because I
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Speaker 2: don't follow the Asian variation.
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Speaker 1: So many.
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Speaker 2: But when I was in Shanghai, I had dinner with
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Speaker 2: him and a few others. He can't speak English, so
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Speaker 2: we didn't really have a conversation, but... You're sitting next
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Speaker 2: to me and we shared very, very simplistic conversation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love their mentality, man. They're sparring and their
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Speaker 1: training camps are like really cool and fun. They always
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Speaker 1: seem to be having fun and lighthearted and all that
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. It just seems like they really enjoy
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Speaker 1: doing it. You look at like the Dagestani wrestling camps
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Speaker 1: and they look like the Gulag, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: You got to trim your beard. You got to do this.
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Speaker 1: You got to do that. And they produce the best
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Speaker 1: guys in the world for sure. But like- I don't know.
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Speaker 1: There's something about it. The ties, they got it. They
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Speaker 1: got the whole package.
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Speaker 2: Talking about prepping, there's a beautiful segue here because I
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Speaker 2: have been talking to my wife about our two boys.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I want them to do jujitsu. There's a studio
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Speaker 2: very close to where we live.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any Muay Thai studio near me,
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Speaker 2: but there's certainly a jujitsu one. And that's also for
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Speaker 2: me good enough. I think jujitsu is pretty awesome for kids.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's all mostly grappling. Yeah. Yeah. My oldest did
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Speaker 1: jujitsu for a little while. He did Muay Thai for
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Speaker 1: a little while. And, uh, we have a weird, we
9:15
Speaker 1: have a weird thing here. We want them to anchor
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Speaker 1: to their passions and run with it. You know what
9:20
Speaker 1: I mean? If it's not there, cause I started late
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Speaker 1: with everything in life. You know what I mean? Like
9:25
Speaker 1: I didn't even know how to throw a punch when
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Speaker 1: I was 18 years old. So because I started late,
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Speaker 1: I was always chasing my passions and made for a
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Speaker 1: better life, I think. So we do that with them,
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Speaker 1: but they did those things. Um, and, uh, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think it's good. I think it lays a good, a
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Speaker 1: good base. I think more than anything, what, what martial
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Speaker 1: arts for kids does is takes away a level of like,
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Speaker 1: just agonizing stress. I don't know if you had this
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Speaker 1: growing up, but just this agonizing stress of like, I
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Speaker 1: don't want to fight if, even if I have to,
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Speaker 1: because I don't want to look funny in front of
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Speaker 1: people because I don't know what I'm doing. You know
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Speaker 1: what I mean? I have no idea what I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: Most people have no idea what they're doing in a fight.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's the, But the thing, James, is that
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Speaker 2: kids do bully one another.
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Speaker 1: They do. Yeah. Especially boys. Sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a fantastic thing to at
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Speaker 2: least prepare them for situations that actually require mental fortitude.
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Speaker 2: This is also what the martial arts does.
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Speaker 1: Definitely.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The discipline's probably... For kids, the discipline's probably more important
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Speaker 1: than knowing how to take a kid down, right? Because
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Speaker 1: when they're at, you know, God, until they're probably 10, 12,
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Speaker 1: it's really hard unless they're really well-trained to even hurt
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Speaker 1: each other that bad. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: I didn't... I don't condone bullying, but I do think
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Speaker 2: that kind of like what animals do when they create
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Speaker 2: that pecking order, I think boys do it also. And,
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Speaker 2: you know, you don't really want to step in. So
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Speaker 2: you kind of want your boy to, you know, to
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Speaker 2: stand up for himself.
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Speaker 1: Well, he has to. Yeah. And the cool thing about
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Speaker 1: bullying is it doesn't matter if you condone it or not.
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Speaker 1: It just is. It's like anything else that just is.
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Speaker 1: You can put a million programs in place. You can
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Speaker 1: go to the nicest school, the private school, the, you know,
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Speaker 1: the kindest school, the most diverse school. There was always bullying.
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Speaker 1: It just always, it just is, you know? And yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's a big, that's a huge rite of passage for
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Speaker 1: a kid when he steps into that, into that role
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Speaker 1: of like, what I'm going to do now is I'm
11:37
Speaker 1: going to speak up and stand up for myself. I'm
11:40
Speaker 1: not just going to take crap from everybody. Were you
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Speaker 1: bullied at school? Mike, dude, relentless, but I, I have
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Speaker 1: no sour feelings. Cause I was a freak in high school,
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Speaker 1: like straight up and down painted fingernails, dyed hair, the
11:54
Speaker 1: whole shit. Oh yeah. Big time. Like total. Were you
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Speaker 1: in that sort of Gothic subculture? 100. No, I was it.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't in it. I was like the lead singer
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Speaker 1: of the popular band in high school. Like what? So
12:08
Speaker 1: you were listening to the used. Ah, not a big,
12:12
Speaker 1: way heavier band. Pantera six feet under death metal, heavy metal,
12:16
Speaker 1: way heavier, mud vein, slip knot, those kinds of things.
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Speaker 1: Really a deep hatred for everyone in high school. You know,
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Speaker 1: we would have been this day and age because of
12:25
Speaker 1: the field fear of, uh, active shooters. We'd have been
12:28
Speaker 1: hauled into the, uh, uh, counselor all the time. If,
12:32
Speaker 1: if times were, you know, swapped, but when I was
12:35
Speaker 1: in high school, we got bullied all the time. I
12:37
Speaker 1: was also bullied quite a bit. Um, and I also
12:41
Speaker 1: was listening to, uh, weird music. I wasn't listening to
12:45
Speaker 1: what you're listening to, but I was into the whole
12:47
Speaker 1: punk stuff. So yeah, I was, you know, similar mentality though. Right.
12:50
Speaker 1: I was into the whole sort of, yeah. That's skate
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Speaker 1: surf culture. Yeah. I'm different. I can't throw really good.
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Speaker 1: So screw you guys. That's how we always felt. I'm
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Speaker 1: not doing gym. I suck, all right? I'm different. It
13:03
Speaker 1: was fun. It was fun. I mean, it wasn't that bad.
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Speaker 1: I never looked back and I'm like, it would have
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Speaker 1: been so much better if they didn't call me gay
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Speaker 1: all high school. You know what I mean? It just
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Speaker 1: was part of growing up. I also don't have any
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Speaker 1: bad feelings. And we had girlfriends and stuff. It didn't
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Speaker 1: really affect the outcome very much, you know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know about you, but I didn't
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Speaker 2: get the hottest girls in school.
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Speaker 1: I did. I had to settle. For sure. I chased
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Speaker 1: her for a year. I was after the hottest goth
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Speaker 1: girl in school and I got her. It took time,
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Speaker 1: but I got her. The goth girls were hot. Yeah,
13:37
Speaker 1: of course. That I'll agree with. Yeah, they were. And
13:40
Speaker 1: on their school bags, they would use, I don't know
13:45
Speaker 1: what you call it in the US, but we call
13:47
Speaker 1: it tipex. It's like that white stuff that you correct.
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Speaker 1: White out, yeah. We call it white out. Yeah, that.
13:54
Speaker 1: And they would write, the names of bands on their
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Speaker 1: school bags, like Pixies and Metallica. Yeah, they had the whiteout.
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Speaker 1: They all had 80 bracelets on every hand. Remember those little,
14:06
Speaker 1: they had those little rubber bracelets? My girlfriend had like
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Speaker 1: 70 bracelets, dude. I never watched her take them off
14:12
Speaker 1: or put them on. I don't know how she did it.
14:14
Speaker 1: I don't know when or where, but she must have
14:16
Speaker 1: went to an alternate reality and just put bracelets on
14:18
Speaker 1: for 20 minutes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but here in South Africa, schools don't wear normal clothes.
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Speaker 1: They wear uniforms. Yeah. So they couldn't do that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've had my kids in both situations. I've had
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Speaker 1: them in uniform schools and non-uniform schools. And I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's like I told my sons growing up, the teachers
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Speaker 1: will tell you that it's not a distraction. You know,
14:43
Speaker 1: there probably is. There's definitely some distraction when you get
14:46
Speaker 1: to high school with girl clothing in particular. But I
14:50
Speaker 1: don't know. It's the same outcome, I think. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's been bullies in schools that we put our kids
14:56
Speaker 1: in a Christian private school for a while. Our kids
14:58
Speaker 1: have been in a charter school that was uniformed for
15:01
Speaker 1: a while. And, you know, it's just kids, man. It's just,
15:04
Speaker 1: they're going to be what they are. You know what
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Speaker 1: I mean? There's nothing you can do. We can't social
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Speaker 1: engineer the kid out of them.
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Speaker 4: No.
15:10
Speaker 2: I also listened to Christian death metal back.
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Speaker 1: In the day. Christian death metal. That seems weird. It's
15:16
Speaker 1: a paradox. Yeah. You wouldn't call it death metal. Maybe
15:20
Speaker 1: life metal. Yeah, that would work.
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Speaker 2: But it's the same thing. It's just, it's as heavy,
15:25
Speaker 2: but just with different lyrics.
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Speaker 1: The lyrics are different. Well, I'll have to check that out.
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Speaker 1: That'd probably make me feel better than some of the
15:31
Speaker 1: things I listened to from back in the day.
15:33
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of some names now. It's too
15:37
Speaker 2: long ago.
15:38
Speaker 1: I've gone blank. I don't listen to that stuff anymore.
15:42
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything right now. Did you listen
15:44
Speaker 1: to Glass Jaw growing up? They were sort of punk-esque. AFI.
15:47
Speaker 1: You had to listen to AFI. For sure. But I
15:49
Speaker 1: liked Davey Havoc when he was in that... The girl? Yes,
15:54
Speaker 1: when he was in that girl phase. With the black
15:58
Speaker 1: nails and the long hair. The whole Miss Murder. Zero Sorrows,
16:03
Speaker 1: I think that CD was called. It was a good CD.
16:06
Speaker 1: A great album. And also the album before that. Incredible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
16:11
Speaker 1: All Hallows EVP was great. Yeah. They had some great songs, man.
16:15
Speaker 1: The Days of the Phoenix. I still listen to the
16:17
Speaker 1: Days of the Phoenix. That's an amazing song. But yeah,
16:20
Speaker 1: we were heavy into music, man. That got us through
16:22
Speaker 1: high school and middle school. Do you remember Billy Talent?
16:25
Speaker 1: I don't think I listened to Billy talent. They were
16:28
Speaker 1: kind of the post-punk era, but we, we are digressing. Yeah.
16:33
Speaker 1: Cause I'm trying, I'm trying to find, I'm trying to
16:35
Speaker 1: find a, I'm trying to find a way to, to
16:36
Speaker 1: bring this back into prepping. Um, but that's a leap now,
16:41
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That's a leap from goth
16:43
Speaker 1: girls to prep. And actually the segue is, is, is
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Speaker 1: getting our kids, um, prepped. So, A conversation we've been
16:52
Speaker 1: having quite a lot of recently in my house is
16:55
Speaker 1: around our kids and schooling and how to handle all
17:02
Speaker 1: of the societal norms. When they're out of your hands. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, bullying, nobody likes bullying, but as you said,
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Speaker 1: it is what it is. It will always be there.
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Speaker 1: It's a kind of pecking order thing that you cannot
17:17
Speaker 1: take away. The best you can do is to teach
17:19
Speaker 1: your kid not to be the bully. And when there
17:24
Speaker 1: is a situation in which he is being bullied, he
17:26
Speaker 1: needs to be able to stand up for himself. Got to.
17:31
Speaker 1: And to your point, if we're talking preparing kids for schooling,
17:36
Speaker 1: you know, your kids are pretty young if I remember
17:38
Speaker 1: you don't have any kids over 10 or anything right
17:40
Speaker 1: no no so what what standing up for yourself also
17:45
Speaker 1: becomes is hey you want to hit the vape you
17:49
Speaker 1: want to take this pill you want to do this
17:51
Speaker 1: thing you want to you know what I mean You
17:53
Speaker 1: want to get busy in the gym, you know what
17:56
Speaker 1: I mean, without protection? Like you got to learn how
17:59
Speaker 1: and when to say no because that is bullying. Peer
18:03
Speaker 1: pressure is bullying. Peer pressure is just come on this
18:06
Speaker 1: ride with me that I'm on or else you're not cool,
18:09
Speaker 1: you know, and I might not even want to be
18:11
Speaker 1: on this ride as per the vape, right? You got
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Speaker 1: a kid who's been doing it since he's 12 or
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Speaker 1: something like that and he runs into your 15-year-old and
18:18
Speaker 1: your 15-year-old is like, I don't know. They got to
18:21
Speaker 1: have that willpower to say, I'm not doing that. It's crazy.
18:24
Speaker 1: So that only comes from that base. But what I've
18:28
Speaker 1: learned from kids in terms of preparedness, particularly outside the home,
18:31
Speaker 1: is they do what you do way more than what
18:35
Speaker 1: you say. You know what I mean? So how you
18:38
Speaker 1: operate in your day-to-day life is likely how they're going
18:40
Speaker 1: to operate in their day-to-day life. You're going to be
18:42
Speaker 1: in their head. You know what I mean? They're going
18:44
Speaker 1: to look at, if you vape in the house, then
18:47
Speaker 1: they're going to look at a vape and go, My
18:49
Speaker 1: dad does it, even though he tells me it's no good.
18:53
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Or they're going to go, oh,
18:55
Speaker 1: my parents wouldn't touch that shit. They say it's poison
18:57
Speaker 1: all the time. It's killing people. It's sad. It's terrible.
19:00
Speaker 1: What's happening to kids with it and all that kind
19:02
Speaker 1: of stuff. So I'm going to steer clear of that,
19:05
Speaker 1: you know? So a lot, yeah. And the same thing
19:08
Speaker 1: with the self-defense, you know, you train, you lift weights.
19:10
Speaker 1: I don't know if you train martial arts or boxing
19:12
Speaker 1: at home or anything like that, but my kids are
19:14
Speaker 1: grown up with punching bag out back and dad hitting it.
19:17
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it's, it's that, it's
19:20
Speaker 1: just that sort of stuff. That's sort of how you
19:22
Speaker 1: live your life. Your kids see and they go, okay,
19:24
Speaker 1: this is how you live your life. And that seems
19:27
Speaker 1: to stick with my kids more than me sitting them
19:28
Speaker 1: down and go, you know, let's talk about this subject
19:32
Speaker 1: and have it really stick from my experience. So you're
19:36
Speaker 1: leading by example. It's huge. It's everything. I think it's everything.
19:42
Speaker 1: And the older they get, the more important it becomes.
19:46
Speaker 1: Because when you get to teenage years and you want
19:49
Speaker 1: to sit down and have a meaningful conversation with a kid,
19:51
Speaker 1: it gets way harder. You remember when you were a teenager,
19:55
Speaker 1: you start to dissolve into this world of, I already
19:58
Speaker 1: know everything. I'm 17. I know everything. Okay. And that's
20:05
Speaker 1: how I was and how most guys are when they
20:08
Speaker 1: hit a certain age. It's like, I have all the answers. Dad,
20:10
Speaker 1: shut up. I'm going to make it work. I know
20:12
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. You know, that kind of thing. So, yeah.
20:15
Speaker 1: You build that living by example, I think, early on
20:17
Speaker 1: and it carries them. And that, you know, if you
20:19
Speaker 1: live a prepared lifestyle, they'll see that too. Dad's always
20:22
Speaker 1: got a knife, carries a gun. He's always looking at people.
20:25
Speaker 1: What's this guy up to? What's going on? You know,
20:26
Speaker 1: that whole situational awareness thing. I mean, my kids mock
20:29
Speaker 1: me for it, but I'm glad they mock me for
20:31
Speaker 1: it because that means they're seeing it. You know what
20:33
Speaker 1: I mean? Everything's a problem, Dad. It's just a guy
20:36
Speaker 1: with a backpack. What's wrong? I mean, well, when you
20:40
Speaker 1: get older, you'll be looking for him too, you know,
20:42
Speaker 1: because he had to grow up with it. So. That's
20:45
Speaker 1: what it seems like to me. Living by example is
20:48
Speaker 1: sort of the best way to teach the kids. Sort
20:52
Speaker 1: of the great, you know, the larger overarching sort of
20:55
Speaker 1: things of life.
20:57
Speaker 2: Another conversation that we've been having a lot lately, of course,
21:00
Speaker 2: as I said a moment ago, is schooling, but also
21:02
Speaker 2: the kind of schooling. Are you a fan of homeschooling?
21:06
Speaker 1: So I can't say I'm a fan or not a
21:09
Speaker 1: fan because I have zero experience. Well, that's not true.
21:12
Speaker 1: My wife was small. group homeschooled and she's done really
21:17
Speaker 1: well in life but she is also maybe one of
21:21
Speaker 1: the most unique people I've ever met in my whole
21:23
Speaker 1: life particularly from a willpower standpoint and so she's not
21:28
Speaker 1: a great example for me as when it comes to
21:31
Speaker 1: that I think homeschooling one of my biggest fears about
21:35
Speaker 1: homeschooling for kids is if this is your life outside
21:40
Speaker 1: of school right Or the computer and the video game
21:44
Speaker 1: is your life outside of school and you only have
21:46
Speaker 1: to homeschool for six hours or four hours a day
21:48
Speaker 1: or whatever it is because it's way more efficient because
21:50
Speaker 1: it's just better in terms of efficiency and probably curriculum.
21:54
Speaker 1: And plus you're getting taught by your parent, right? So
21:56
Speaker 1: it's going to be better. But you live in an
21:59
Speaker 1: isolated area or you live in an area where there's
22:01
Speaker 1: no kids, then it just feels like a life that
22:04
Speaker 1: would get brutal, quick. You know what I mean? No friends,
22:09
Speaker 1: no interaction, all my time online, as much great stuff
22:12
Speaker 1: as I learned from mom and dad directly, I'm learning
22:15
Speaker 1: this online world the same way or not, or I'm
22:20
Speaker 1: just bored out to tears because I'm at home all
22:23
Speaker 1: the time. So if you could figure out, if in
22:26
Speaker 1: my perfect scenario, you figure out how to really socialize
22:29
Speaker 1: kids every day outside of school, homeschool and I think
22:34
Speaker 1: I'd feel better about it. One of the things I
22:37
Speaker 1: love about public school and private school and charter school
22:39
Speaker 1: is just that, you know what I mean? You get
22:42
Speaker 1: a taste of life. Life is not wake up and
22:45
Speaker 1: hang out with mom and dad for four hours and
22:47
Speaker 1: then do exactly what you want the way you want
22:50
Speaker 1: for the rest of the day and never run into
22:51
Speaker 1: anybody who makes you uncomfortable. You know what I mean?
22:54
Speaker 1: Life is, oh, I got to go to work and
22:56
Speaker 1: deal with this asshole who I have to talk to every,
22:58
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That's real life. Yeah.
23:01
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think that is, um, What I
23:05
Speaker 2: think about, though, I agree with you 100%. You have
23:07
Speaker 2: to make sure they do extramural stuff, take them to
23:11
Speaker 2: clubs or sports clubs, I mean, or friends or whatever.
23:18
Speaker 1: And you're right.
23:18
Speaker 2: It's also more efficient. You can get stuff done within
23:20
Speaker 2: three hours rather than eight hours. But the thing that
23:25
Speaker 2: I think about is the indoctrination that comes from public schooling.
23:29
Speaker 1: Yeah. For a guy like you, I wouldn't worry about
23:32
Speaker 1: it as much. You know what I mean? It's a
23:35
Speaker 1: car ride home problem. I pick my kids up from school.
23:39
Speaker 1: I've been taking them and picking them up from school
23:41
Speaker 1: their whole school career. I drop them off at school.
23:44
Speaker 1: If I pick them up and they come home and
23:46
Speaker 1: they tell me Christopher Columbus is a mass murdering racist pig,
23:50
Speaker 1: then I just go, okay, let's talk about everything and
23:54
Speaker 1: just talk about the whole thing. So you know what
23:56
Speaker 1: the whole thing is. And if your kid's 10... He's
24:02
Speaker 1: not holding on to it anyway. You know what I mean?
24:03
Speaker 1: I think only unchecked in a group of friends who
24:06
Speaker 1: are brainwashed just as much in a liberal household, then
24:10
Speaker 1: you have a sort of indoctrination camp that's hard to defeat.
24:12
Speaker 1: But for a guy like you, your kids are going
24:14
Speaker 1: to come home and tell you that George Washington or
24:16
Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson was a slave keeping monster, or maybe not.
24:20
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys learn a lot about
24:21
Speaker 1: America over there or not, but, and you'll go, nah,
24:25
Speaker 1: let's talk about them. You know what I mean? Or
24:27
Speaker 1: let's talk about the leaders of South Africa, however that goes.
24:30
Speaker 2: That's interesting that you mentioned that. Let me think quickly.
24:33
Speaker 2: When I was in school, I don't think we learned
24:35
Speaker 2: anything about the U.S.
24:37
Speaker 4: At all.
24:37
Speaker 1: Dang.
24:38
Speaker 2: I'm starting to hear that. Well, if you think about it,
24:42
Speaker 2: why would we? It's not a country that matters, I guess,
24:47
Speaker 2: to us.
24:47
Speaker 1: Shit. How not? The U.S. Constitution matters to everybody. You
24:55
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Well, this is what Americans think. But...
25:01
Speaker 1: It doesn't? Really? It doesn't matter to us. I didn't
25:04
Speaker 1: know that. Honestly. I don't even know what the American
25:06
Speaker 1: constitution largely is. Wow. But- Yeah, I guess it doesn't.
25:10
Speaker 1: If it doesn't affect your laws, you have the right
25:12
Speaker 1: to keep and bear arms and freedom of speech because
25:14
Speaker 1: of what's protected. As long as it stays protected by
25:17
Speaker 1: your government, right? I guess that's all that matters.
25:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously we can- I say obviously, no,
25:22
Speaker 2: it's not obviously, but we can carry guns. I know
25:24
Speaker 2: a lot of countries you cannot carry guns.
25:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. Here we can.
25:28
Speaker 2: The one guy who was on my show a few
25:32
Speaker 2: months ago, I think he had something like 140 different guns.
25:35
Speaker 1: You need to take inventory every month. Do I still
25:43
Speaker 1: have 140? And that's another good self-defense technique.
25:51
Speaker 2: Tool by the way but it's that also requires huge
25:53
Speaker 2: amounts of mental fortitude you need you know it's not
25:57
Speaker 2: just going to the shooting club and no way and
26:00
Speaker 2: pointing at the target you have to I remember when
26:02
Speaker 2: I was on a hunt a few years ago with
26:03
Speaker 2: a friend of mine and he was saying to me
26:07
Speaker 2: one of the things you need to think about if
26:09
Speaker 2: you do on a gun you wake up at two
26:12
Speaker 2: in the morning and there's somebody in your house and
26:14
Speaker 2: you pick up that gun and you walk through the
26:15
Speaker 2: house and you are in a situation right and And
26:20
Speaker 2: he said to me, you have to make sure that
26:24
Speaker 2: you are mentally and psychologically prepared to pull that trigger.
26:30
Speaker 2: And whatever consequences after that, you need to also make
26:33
Speaker 2: sure that you're prepared. And of course, you don't really
26:37
Speaker 2: ever know how you're going to be in that situation
26:38
Speaker 2: because you don't want to be in that situation. So
26:42
Speaker 2: you could go through your entire life just shooting at
26:44
Speaker 2: the club. And if that real situation occurs, There's a
26:49
Speaker 2: lot of mental prep work that has to be done beforehand.
26:52
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the trick, right? It's called the Baba
26:57
Speaker 1: Yaga drill, the boogeyman drill, right? And the boogeyman drill
27:03
Speaker 1: is really awesome. What you do is you get in
27:07
Speaker 1: your boxers and you get in bed. And you can
27:11
Speaker 1: do it in the middle of the day. I'd recommend
27:12
Speaker 1: doing it in daytime. But you get in whatever you
27:15
Speaker 1: sleep in and you get in bed. Wherever your guns
27:17
Speaker 1: are in the house, you don't move them. You don't prepare.
27:20
Speaker 1: This is the deal. And then you start from zero.
27:24
Speaker 1: Eyes open up. Somebody's broken into the front door. You
27:29
Speaker 1: get up out of bed and you go through the motions.
27:33
Speaker 1: And wherever everything is that you need, you find out
27:35
Speaker 1: if it's where it's supposed to be and where you
27:37
Speaker 1: need it. You find out walking through the house. in
27:41
Speaker 1: your boxers in a plate carrier, maybe if that's what,
27:45
Speaker 1: if that's how you want it to go, you know,
27:47
Speaker 1: and then you can route plan that way too and
27:49
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, where do I want to stand
27:51
Speaker 1: in this hallway? You do that, you know, a couple
27:55
Speaker 1: of times a year and you'll feel that'll cut a
27:58
Speaker 1: massive amount of anxiety and stress off of that situation
28:01
Speaker 1: because all of a sudden you'll have at least a
28:03
Speaker 1: plan in my head, right? The gun is here. Wake up, boom,
28:06
Speaker 1: gun is here. Okay. Flashlight. Am I taking a flash?
28:09
Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Where am I going first? You know,
28:13
Speaker 1: you can get the family involved. Kids got to get
28:15
Speaker 1: woken up, got to go into the parents' room, whatever
28:17
Speaker 1: the situation is. And then you make your way through
28:19
Speaker 1: the home. And that'll take a lot of anxiety off
28:23
Speaker 1: of that as opposed to just, oh, my God, someone
28:25
Speaker 1: kicked in the door and action. Because I'll tell you what,
28:30
Speaker 1: it never goes as planned, even if you plan. I
28:34
Speaker 1: could tell you a story about that that you'll laugh.
28:37
Speaker 1: I may have even told it on the show before, but...
28:41
Speaker 1: You want to hear it? It's it's hilarious. So I'm me, Mr. Preparedness.
28:48
Speaker 1: I wake up one night to my wife who's already
28:51
Speaker 1: up and making her way out of the bed. She
28:56
Speaker 1: gets to the doorway. I'm barely awake. She gets to
28:58
Speaker 1: the doorway and screams and jumps back and falls immediately
29:02
Speaker 1: on her ass. Right. So I'm like, it's it's time.
29:07
Speaker 1: I go to jump out of the bed, right, directly,
29:10
Speaker 1: like through the covers. But I have pit bulls on
29:14
Speaker 1: both sides of me that are holding the covers down.
29:17
Speaker 1: So in my effort to go through the covers, everything
29:20
Speaker 1: comes out but like the mid of my shin and down.
29:24
Speaker 1: So now I fall out of the bed onto my face.
29:28
Speaker 1: The dogs do nothing because it was my youngest coming in.
29:32
Speaker 1: You know, he was probably four, three or something like that.
29:34
Speaker 1: He had a bad dream. She didn't know it. She
29:36
Speaker 1: didn't expect it. She got scared by him. I jump out.
29:39
Speaker 1: fall on my face. Both protectors are laying on the
29:43
Speaker 1: floor now. The dog's doing nothing. No gun in hand. And,
29:48
Speaker 1: you know, the best laid plans of mice and men.
29:52
Speaker 2: Now, the funny thing is somebody listening to this going, oh,
29:55
Speaker 2: this is a ridiculous conversation. Guys, we can't own guns
29:59
Speaker 2: here because this is a not good international audience, right?
30:03
Speaker 1: Fair enough. But this is about mental preparedness, right? Yeah.
30:08
Speaker 2: One of the things that annoys me immensely about the
30:11
Speaker 2: independent alternative audiences is that they rely so much on
30:16
Speaker 2: the state.
30:18
Speaker 1: Everything is about. Oh, yes. We need to make the
30:21
Speaker 1: government more efficient. Guys. You are the first responder. For sure.
30:26
Speaker 1: All right. Look anywhere, any European country right now. I mean, just...
30:32
Speaker 1: And look at what's going on. If you haven't seen France,
30:34
Speaker 1: see what's happening. I mean, I was in the UK
30:38
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. And when I landed... Sorry to
30:41
Speaker 1: hear that. When I landed at Heathrow, I thought I
30:44
Speaker 1: was landing in Bangladesh. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know it.
30:47
Speaker 2: Now, the problem here is that Crime is increasing across
30:50
Speaker 2: all of these countries, Europe, UK, et cetera, right?
30:54
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:56
Speaker 2: What are you doing about it? Are you just sitting
30:59
Speaker 2: back and doom scrolling and showing people what's going on?
31:03
Speaker 2: And are you still waiting for... the nanny to come
31:07
Speaker 2: look after you when you are the first responder, you
31:10
Speaker 2: got to get into your head that if you want
31:13
Speaker 2: to become self-reliant, if you want to get into that
31:16
Speaker 2: parallel structure mindset.
31:17
Speaker 1: You need to be prepared. If you can't own a.
31:20
Speaker 2: Gun, fine, find another way to, uh, to, to, to, to,
31:26
Speaker 2: to protect your home, you know?
31:27
Speaker 1: Yeah.
31:28
Speaker 2: And, and make sure that you, you do something about it.
31:31
Speaker 2: Don't just be a, um, a target waiting to happen.
31:36
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, this is where the, you know, boxing
31:40
Speaker 1: in the UK is tremendous, right? I mean, it's got
31:43
Speaker 1: an incredible history in the UK. And boxing isn't just
31:47
Speaker 1: about boxing. Boxing is about violence is going to happen.
31:51
Speaker 1: And I've been here before. You know what I mean?
31:53
Speaker 1: Like things are about to get violent, but I know
31:56
Speaker 1: what that looks like. So it's not me jumping out
31:59
Speaker 1: of bed and going, uh, I don't know what to do.
32:03
Speaker 1: And I think people underestimate like Maybe people overestimate the
32:08
Speaker 1: bad guys a little. If you're coming at somebody even
32:12
Speaker 1: with a bat and real anger and violence and violent intentions,
32:18
Speaker 1: most people are going to say, this is the wrong
32:21
Speaker 1: target for today and move on. I'm not taking the
32:25
Speaker 1: potential of a strike with a blunt force object to
32:30
Speaker 1: steal a wallet, to accost someone, to grab their kids
32:34
Speaker 1: or whatever the situation is. familiarize yourself with violence and
32:38
Speaker 1: how to do it. Because, and look, I'm a guy
32:41
Speaker 1: who was, you heard what I was in high school.
32:43
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I just had to make
32:46
Speaker 1: that change. I had to make that morph. I had
32:48
Speaker 1: to do those reps and get to the point, go
32:50
Speaker 1: train with people, get hit and realize like, okay, I
32:54
Speaker 1: can live through this. And now I know what to
32:57
Speaker 1: do when violence happens. Yes.
32:59
Speaker 2: And remember something, your own government, pretty much no matter
33:03
Speaker 2: where you are in the world, locked you in your home.
33:07
Speaker 1: In 2020.
33:07
Speaker 2: They don't care about you. The government does not care
33:10
Speaker 2: about you. It cares about itself. And now you want
33:13
Speaker 2: to wait for its police to come and protect you.
33:18
Speaker 1: All it wants to do is grow and become more tyrannical.
33:21
Speaker 1: That's correct. That's government. That's it. Anything you get from
33:27
Speaker 1: it that helps is like residual.
33:32
Speaker 2: So we've also got one of those side handle battens,
33:35
Speaker 2: you know, you know, those things that the police have.
33:37
Speaker 1: Yeah. That thing. It also extends. That thing will break
33:42
Speaker 1: any bone in your body. Well, yeah. Tack the legs.
33:46
Speaker 1: Nobody's chasing anybody anymore. You know what I mean? The
33:49
Speaker 1: chase is done. Knee caps. Yeah. You don't need a lot.
33:53
Speaker 1: You just need to become like a hornet. You know
33:55
Speaker 1: what I mean? You become like a wasp. You need
33:57
Speaker 1: people to look at you and go like, oh, if
33:58
Speaker 1: I mess with that thing, it's going to sting me.
34:00
Speaker 1: I'm not going to mess with it. You can put
34:01
Speaker 1: it in a cupboard that's near, I don't know, near
34:04
Speaker 1: the lounge or something. You don't have to have everything
34:07
Speaker 1: hidden away in your bedroom. I don't know. Whatever. I
34:08
Speaker 1: keep one in my driver's side door pocket. There we go.
34:12
Speaker 1: That's a great place to keep one. You know what
34:14
Speaker 1: I mean? If anything gets crazy out there in the world,
34:16
Speaker 1: you got that. It's important. But none of the buying
34:22
Speaker 1: things matter, not even guns. If you'd like to your point,
34:26
Speaker 1: your buddy's point at the beginning is if you're not
34:28
Speaker 1: mentally gone there and considered what this all entails. Because
34:32
Speaker 1: the moment you crack somebody in the head with one
34:34
Speaker 1: of those things, you're probably going to get an attempted
34:37
Speaker 1: murder charge. You know what I mean? There's a good chance.
34:40
Speaker 1: Or you're going to have to fight for your freedom.
34:42
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Because crack somebody in the
34:45
Speaker 1: head with a club and their skull cracks and they
34:48
Speaker 1: have to go in the hospital, it's what it is,
34:50
Speaker 1: assault with a deadly weapon. So you got to be
34:53
Speaker 1: prepared for all. There's a lot of companies that are
34:55
Speaker 1: out there nowadays that provide insurance for just this situation,
34:59
Speaker 1: self-defense insurance. I don't know how it works in Europe
35:03
Speaker 1: and South Africa, but In the United States, there's more
35:07
Speaker 1: than one company where you can call somebody as soon
35:10
Speaker 1: as you crack somebody in the head and go, I'm
35:12
Speaker 1: going to need a lawyer, and they'll have one ready. James,
35:16
Speaker 1: we're one of the most violent countries in the world.
35:19
Speaker 1: I know it.
35:20
Speaker 2: Everything is available here when it comes to protection and insurance.
35:26
Speaker 2: Do you know that our private security sector is, I think,
35:30
Speaker 2: three to four times larger than the police?
35:36
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, yeah, that makes perfect sense, though. What you
35:40
Speaker 1: guys went through 10 years ago, that makes perfect sense.
35:44
Speaker 1: It was about 10 years ago, I think, when it
35:45
Speaker 1: really started to get crazy. We've got so many.
35:49
Speaker 2: various kinds of private security that they're competing with one another.
35:53
Speaker 2: And that's all the legal stuff, by the way. We're
35:57
Speaker 2: not even talking about the underground.
35:59
Speaker 1: Right, right. The paid off security. Yeah. We've got full
36:02
Speaker 1: on mafia and gangs. I mean, this is South Africa.
36:06
Speaker 1: This is like the darker side that people don't know about.
36:09
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that there's a company that makes paintball turrets.
36:15
Speaker 1: Pretty rubber bullet turrets out of South Africa. I found
36:19
Speaker 1: them years ago and approached them. I thought they were
36:21
Speaker 1: in America. I was going to see if they wanted
36:22
Speaker 1: to sponsor a PBN. And they were like, oh, we're
36:26
Speaker 1: in South Africa. Pretty sure it was South Africa. It
36:28
Speaker 1: was really cool. That's also, by the way. You post
36:30
Speaker 1: your cement into the ground and it's got like a
36:32
Speaker 1: motion detective turret and shoots less than lethals.
36:37
Speaker 2: Paintballs actually are also, weirdly enough, pretty good defense. I mean,
36:40
Speaker 2: they are very, very soft.
36:42
Speaker 1: Got to be a hornet you know what i mean
36:44
Speaker 1: you just got to be a hornet's nest i don't
36:45
Speaker 1: want to mess with that i'll go to the next
36:47
Speaker 1: house that doesn't have a turret you know.
36:49
Speaker 2: Yeah no but i mean even if you're carrying a
36:51
Speaker 2: paintball gun they're not oh yeah expensive.
36:54
Speaker 1: Yeah i mean i'll be honest with you we've done
36:59
Speaker 1: my 11 year old 12 year old birthdays for my
37:03
Speaker 1: oldest son were paintball parties Like we had a ball
37:06
Speaker 1: and my eight-year-old was running around getting shot with a
37:10
Speaker 1: paintball gun. So now, of course, you know, we had
37:12
Speaker 1: layered clothes and masks and you get shot in the
37:15
Speaker 1: face with a paintball. It's going to be a bad
37:17
Speaker 1: day with no mask on. So they are a deterrent, though,
37:22
Speaker 1: especially if you don't know. You don't know what it's
37:24
Speaker 1: going to feel like. So I've got a... I've got
37:27
Speaker 1: a gun here. I can't grab it now. It's a
37:30
Speaker 1: bit too far. I love it. I just love that.
37:32
Speaker 1: I mean, just that phrase right there. Oh, I've got
37:35
Speaker 1: a gun here. It's not a real gun. Hold on.
37:37
Speaker 1: It's not a real gun. What's it, a burner?
37:41
Speaker 2: This is the problem. This is why I think it's
37:42
Speaker 2: actually pretty dangerous. Because it looks like a gun. It
37:48
Speaker 2: shoots blanks. It's designed to look like a real gun,
37:52
Speaker 2: but it just basically shoots powder.
37:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you.
37:57
Speaker 2: But it's identical to the real thing, so it looks
38:00
Speaker 2: like a Glock.
38:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem, however, is that you pull that thing...
38:04
Speaker 1: You're going to lose. Somebody's going to shoot you. Yeah,
38:06
Speaker 1: you're going to lose in every situation. It's meant to
38:10
Speaker 1: be a deterrent. But I get you. I don't quite
38:13
Speaker 1: know when you would use it. The only thing I
38:17
Speaker 1: could see is at a distance if the guy's unarmed.
38:21
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Or you can spook somebody
38:24
Speaker 1: who doesn't expect a firearm in an altercation, you know?
38:28
Speaker 1: Maybe because of the nature of South Africa, probably a
38:30
Speaker 1: bad deterrent. But like, you know, there are definitely places
38:33
Speaker 1: in America where you can get run up on by
38:35
Speaker 1: somebody who thinks they're going to muscle you and you
38:38
Speaker 1: pull out a fake gun and point it at them
38:40
Speaker 1: and they go and then take off because now you're
38:42
Speaker 1: a hornet again. You know what I mean? It's like, oh,
38:44
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to risk it. Probably.
38:48
Speaker 1: They probably make them for criminals. A lot of companies
38:51
Speaker 1: make stuff for criminals. They just don't say it. Oh,
38:53
Speaker 1: this is for self-defense. You know what I mean? And
38:56
Speaker 1: you could tell it's like. You made that so somebody
38:59
Speaker 1: could use it to hold up a store.
39:01
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's the same way you are,
39:03
Speaker 2: but here in South Africa, it is illegal to have
39:05
Speaker 2: tinted car windows.
39:08
Speaker 1: It's illegal in a lot of places in the U.S.
39:10
Speaker 1: The problem is the police are so afraid of everything
39:12
Speaker 1: now that they don't pull anybody over anyway. If they
39:16
Speaker 1: really want to get you, then they'll layer it. Yeah,
39:19
Speaker 1: it's because they can't see into the car, and that's
39:21
Speaker 1: the reason why. Yeah, it's awful. You're asking a guy
39:24
Speaker 1: to put his life on the risk all the way
39:26
Speaker 1: up until the gun's coming out of the window. You
39:28
Speaker 1: know what I mean? and then just dodge it neo
39:31
Speaker 1: what's the problem yeah it's it's idiotic i would never
39:35
Speaker 1: allow it i would just break all the windows out
39:37
Speaker 1: of the car that would be my policy you pull
39:39
Speaker 1: them over they got the windows tinted just break all
39:42
Speaker 1: the windows out it's great when you're inside though I mean,
39:46
Speaker 1: I guess, you know. I don't have a problem with
39:49
Speaker 1: seeing people and people seeing me from the vehicle, except
39:52
Speaker 1: for when I'm picking my nose, you know.
39:57
Speaker 2: But the point here, James, is that there are lots
40:00
Speaker 2: of ways that you can prepare for a bad.
40:03
Speaker 1: Violent situation.
40:07
Speaker 2: The kids, for example, they can and they should learn–
40:12
Speaker 2: some type of martial art, some sort of self-defense. They
40:15
Speaker 2: need to be fit, I think. You don't want a
40:19
Speaker 2: fat kid. Fitness is good, yeah. Yeah, in fact, where
40:24
Speaker 2: I got the jiu-jitsu idea was a few years ago, actually,
40:27
Speaker 2: on my show. One of my guests, Peter Boghossian, he
40:30
Speaker 2: wrote an amazing book. I've got it just somewhere. It's
40:33
Speaker 2: called How to Have Impossible Conversations.
40:37
Speaker 1: Impossible? That's interesting.
40:40
Speaker 2: And he said that every child growing up needs to
40:45
Speaker 2: do jiu-jitsu at the very least.
40:47
Speaker 1: Every child.
40:49
Speaker 2: And I've never forgotten that. And whether or not it's jiu-jitsu,
40:53
Speaker 2: Muay Thai, whatever, I think any kind of self-defense is
40:57
Speaker 2: a good idea for kids and it's a good idea
41:00
Speaker 2: for adults. And, you know, the idea that we keep
41:05
Speaker 2: talking about our sovereignty and being independent, et cetera. Okay,
41:09
Speaker 2: well then stop relying. Stop relying.
41:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, rights.
41:13
Speaker 2: Like nobody cares about your rights if if you can't
41:16
Speaker 2: have them enforced. And who's the primary enforcer?
41:20
Speaker 1: You. That's right. Yeah, no doubt about it. The fights
41:25
Speaker 1: that people get in, I think, a lot of times
41:29
Speaker 1: are between people who don't know how to fight, like
41:31
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier. Because when you learn how to fight,
41:34
Speaker 1: it's not just about, oh, I can beat everybody up.
41:37
Speaker 1: It's because, you know, you don't know what other people know.
41:40
Speaker 1: But you get more comfortable around people. You know, even
41:44
Speaker 1: in situations where where, you know, things get chippy, it's like,
41:48
Speaker 1: all right, I'm I'm already way more relaxed because if
41:51
Speaker 1: this thing gets kinetic, then, you know, I'm punching somebody
41:54
Speaker 1: in the face, you know, and I think there's so
41:58
Speaker 1: much value in that. But for kids, I think I
42:00
Speaker 1: think the discipline part is huge, too, you know, and
42:03
Speaker 1: you will learn how to manage your feelings and your
42:05
Speaker 1: emotions a lot quicker if you're getting choked tapped out
42:09
Speaker 1: constantly somebody's on top you can't get them off you
42:12
Speaker 1: know multiple times it develops that in you for sure
42:16
Speaker 1: you know and i guess there's probably not a lot
42:18
Speaker 1: like there was when you were younger and i was
42:19
Speaker 1: younger where kids are wrestling around and doing those kinds
42:22
Speaker 1: of things that we did growing up where you get
42:25
Speaker 1: that kind of experience of like oh i'm going too
42:28
Speaker 1: hard i hurt him or oh he's going too hard
42:30
Speaker 1: he hurt me you know which that's an important part
42:33
Speaker 1: too Dads should wrestle with their kids. You really should,
42:37
Speaker 1: especially when they're little, little. You know what I mean?
42:39
Speaker 1: That teaches them a lot, too. I do that, but
42:41
Speaker 1: I also realize how unfit I am. Yeah, they wear
42:45
Speaker 1: you out. They wear you out, I bet. Yeah, I've
42:50
Speaker 1: stayed fit, so I've been able to burn them kids
42:53
Speaker 1: out their whole life, really. But when they were, I'd
42:57
Speaker 1: say probably until they got to be about seven or
42:59
Speaker 1: something like that, we would wrestle all the time and
43:02
Speaker 1: just have fun with it.
43:04
Speaker 2: I've got my own bench press and a squat rack
43:08
Speaker 2: and that sort of thing here.
43:09
Speaker 1: In my house. Well, good. Not inside the house, but
43:12
Speaker 1: in the outside garage. Yeah.
43:14
Speaker 2: In like a utility room. And unfortunately, I haven't really
43:17
Speaker 2: been in it since we moved into our house, which
43:20
Speaker 2: was about a year ago. New baby, man.
43:23
Speaker 1: Two. Well, yes. Yeah. New baby.
43:25
Speaker 4: Yeah.
43:26
Speaker 2: But the other one is very young. And it's just
43:28
Speaker 2: a matter of finding motivation. I can't bring myself to
43:32
Speaker 2: getting into the gym. But once you're into the groove,
43:36
Speaker 2: then it flows.
43:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the key. The key is to get in
43:41
Speaker 1: the groove and never leave. But also the key is
43:44
Speaker 1: you've got to understand that everything can be a workout.
43:48
Speaker 1: And you have to do the workouts that you want
43:50
Speaker 1: to do. You know, this is huge. I've been in
43:53
Speaker 1: the gym with so many guys. They come in there,
43:55
Speaker 1: they're like, dude, I'm getting jacked this year. I'm going
43:58
Speaker 1: to go to the gym five days a week. And
44:00
Speaker 1: they go to the gym for five days a week
44:02
Speaker 1: for about a month, two months. And then they don't
44:04
Speaker 1: go back to the gym for three months. You know
44:06
Speaker 1: what I mean? So you got to find your rhythm
44:08
Speaker 1: and you got to find the workouts that you like
44:09
Speaker 1: to do. You got to vary workouts and you got
44:12
Speaker 1: to be okay with like, tonight the wife and I
44:15
Speaker 1: are going to do two laps around the neighborhood and
44:17
Speaker 1: that's a workout. You know what I mean? Tonight I'm
44:20
Speaker 1: going to stretch and that's my workout because I'm tired
44:22
Speaker 1: from the gym yesterday or I'm sore. Well, I'm tired
44:25
Speaker 1: from the kids. That too, right? That too. No, it is.
44:31
Speaker 1: It is tough. Like I'm pretty, pretty tough guy. Like
44:33
Speaker 1: I've run a marathon and survived it. I was insane.
44:37
Speaker 1: Like I've done a lot of things that are hard.
44:40
Speaker 1: And I remember peeling myself off, like falling asleep on
44:44
Speaker 1: my kid's bedroom, reading them books at night. and peeling
44:48
Speaker 1: myself off the ground to go do some more work
44:51
Speaker 1: downstairs and going like, knowing what level of fitness I
44:55
Speaker 1: was at and saying like, who are these people raising
44:58
Speaker 1: three and four and five kids? Like, how are they
45:00
Speaker 1: doing it? Because I'm in great shape and I am
45:03
Speaker 1: dead right now. Like, this is taking all I got
45:06
Speaker 1: to get this day done. So I know it's brutal.
45:10
Speaker 1: I found that the best way when the kids were
45:12
Speaker 1: young was to share time with the wife. Two things,
45:16
Speaker 1: wake up early, And get it done early. Or we
45:20
Speaker 1: got lucky because we had a gym with a place
45:23
Speaker 1: that watched the kids built into it. So we would
45:25
Speaker 1: go to a gym. They had this place called the
45:27
Speaker 1: kid zone. You drop the kids off for an hour.
45:29
Speaker 1: You work out. They play with other kids. You're done.
45:33
Speaker 1: Your workout's over. That's a good idea. You go get dinner.
45:35
Speaker 4: Yeah.
45:36
Speaker 1: Oh, this was the key for my wife and I
45:39
Speaker 1: being consistently in the gym all through the kids being young.
45:42
Speaker 1: I mean, we could bring them at six months. Most
45:45
Speaker 1: of the time they just sleep. You know what I mean?
45:46
Speaker 1: Most of you feed them on, like we're going to
45:47
Speaker 1: go to the gym at this time, feed them, change them,
45:50
Speaker 1: drop them off at the gym. He sleeps in the
45:52
Speaker 1: crib for an hour. You get them back, probably still
45:54
Speaker 1: sleeping or awake. So whatever, it doesn't matter. Easy. You
45:57
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But it's outside of your head.
45:59
Speaker 1: Someone else is watching them. You can lock in and
46:01
Speaker 1: get a good workout in and then move on with
46:03
Speaker 1: your day. I like that.
46:07
Speaker 2: But the problem is that by the time the night arrives,
46:13
Speaker 2: James- I'm broken.
46:15
Speaker 1: I'm broken. I get it, man. I'm broken. I remember
46:17
Speaker 1: my wife driving to the gym sometimes if I wasn't
46:20
Speaker 1: driving and I'm falling asleep in the car on the
46:24
Speaker 1: way to the gym. Like, how am I going to
46:25
Speaker 1: work out? I remember it. It's like hating it. And
46:28
Speaker 1: sometimes I'd be so mad at her because she would
46:30
Speaker 1: be the driving force. She really was a lot of
46:33
Speaker 1: times like, all right, let's go to the gym. Let's
46:34
Speaker 1: get the kids to the kid zone. Let's let them
46:36
Speaker 1: have fun and let's go work out. And I'd be like,
46:39
Speaker 1: I don't want to go work out. Tired. But we'd
46:42
Speaker 1: go and we'd knock it out. And, you know, our
46:44
Speaker 1: health is built on that now. Like, it really is. Like,
46:48
Speaker 1: both of our health is built on that. We never stopped.
46:50
Speaker 1: We never slowed down. And I think if you could
46:53
Speaker 1: keep that trajectory, man, all the way into your old age,
46:56
Speaker 1: I think it would be a big difference, you know,
46:59
Speaker 1: in how your life works later on in life. And
47:02
Speaker 1: that's prepping, by the way. 100%. I mean, health is everything,
47:07
Speaker 1: you know. You can be the coolest bushcrafter of them all.
47:11
Speaker 1: But if you can't get off the couch and walk
47:13
Speaker 1: two miles, then who cares? You know what I mean?
47:17
Speaker 1: That's the reality.
47:19
Speaker 2: So on my show, Conversations like what you and I
47:23
Speaker 2: are having tend to get very low traction because it's
47:29
Speaker 2: solutions orientated. And whenever I do a solutions orientated episode,
47:35
Speaker 2: people don't seem to care. And I find that so disheartening.
47:39
Speaker 2: I could do this every single day because it's positive,
47:41
Speaker 2: it's uplifting, and it actually adds value to my life.
47:46
Speaker 2: It brings meaning every morning.
47:50
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man.
47:52
Speaker 2: I mean, I could talk about diet also every single day.
47:58
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by nutrition and the best way to optimize
48:02
Speaker 2: your health.
48:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem is it's just way easier for people
48:07
Speaker 1: to go They're the bad guys. They're screwing up my life.
48:11
Speaker 1: They're the reason things are bad for me. It's definitely
48:15
Speaker 1: not me. And yes. I've been dealt a bad hand.
48:18
Speaker 1: That's the deal.
48:19
Speaker 2: And yes, digital ID is terrible. And CBDCs are terrible.
48:22
Speaker 2: And 15-minute cities are terrible. And Agenda 2030 is terrible.
48:25
Speaker 1: And all that.
48:26
Speaker 2: But what are you doing about it? These are the
48:28
Speaker 2: questions you also should be asking. What are you actually doing?
48:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. Or none of it matters if you get diabetes
48:35
Speaker 1: and die in 10 years. You know what I mean?
48:38
Speaker 1: Because you're eating like shit, not working out. Right? Who
48:41
Speaker 1: cares about CBDC if that's the case?
48:45
Speaker 2: A soldier on the front lines will be the first
48:49
Speaker 2: to go if he's fat and diabetic.
48:52
Speaker 1: Definitely. Yeah. I mean, that's it, but it's so hard, man,
48:57
Speaker 1: because you have to have the hard converse, the impossible
49:00
Speaker 1: conversation with yourself, right? You have to say, I'm going
49:03
Speaker 1: to do this and I'm going to do it on
49:06
Speaker 1: a regular basis. And it's, and it's everything it's, it's
49:09
Speaker 1: the most important thing, right? It's like, I got kids,
49:12
Speaker 1: I got a wife, I got people dependent on me. I,
49:15
Speaker 1: you know, we're in the same boat. We got audiences
49:17
Speaker 1: of people that watch us and it's like, you know,
49:20
Speaker 1: committing to something like that, telling people you're going to
49:23
Speaker 1: commit to it and then sticking with it is hard.
49:26
Speaker 1: It's way easier to say, you know, Donald Trump screwed
49:29
Speaker 1: up again, or, you know, insert politician here, you know?
49:34
Speaker 1: It's also way easier to be a consumer of doom.
49:37
Speaker 1: That too, that too, right? Yeah, because you can build
49:40
Speaker 1: some sort of mental thing out of that, right? There's
49:43
Speaker 1: a reason I can't do it today or there's a
49:45
Speaker 1: reason I'm in this situation because they've helped me back. Well,
49:49
Speaker 1: here's an example.
49:50
Speaker 2: Even people in the independent space or consumers of doom,
49:54
Speaker 2: as much as I used to like Alex Jones, think
49:58
Speaker 2: about him.
49:58
Speaker 1: Does he ever offer solutions? Yeah, it's very rarely. Rarely.
50:04
Speaker 1: If anything, it's like him hollering, you know? Yeah, does
50:07
Speaker 1: David Icke ever offer solutions?
50:08
Speaker 2: No, a lot of these people- I never listened to him,
50:10
Speaker 2: but- He's been on my show a few times, but
50:13
Speaker 2: he doesn't offer solutions.
50:15
Speaker 1: It's a huge difference. It's a huge difference. Here's the thing.
50:18
Speaker 1: If you want to make money online, that's how you
50:21
Speaker 1: do it. And that's all you have to know about
50:23
Speaker 1: those kind of content creators. You know what I mean?
50:25
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with it. It's their game. It's
50:27
Speaker 1: their business. They want to make a lot of money,
50:29
Speaker 1: get a lot of eyes, get a lot of clicks,
50:30
Speaker 1: convince somebody to buy a 72-hour survival food kit they
50:34
Speaker 1: can't cook with or prepare because they didn't think about
50:37
Speaker 1: the backup stove or the propane stove or whatever it is. And,
50:41
Speaker 1: you know, you can make a killing that way. I mean,
50:44
Speaker 1: I watch people do it all the time. It's just
50:46
Speaker 1: never been my motivations. You know what I mean? I'd
50:50
Speaker 1: lose my mind if I was in that boat every day.
50:53
Speaker 2: So, for example, right here under my desk, I've got
50:57
Speaker 2: two backup inverters, right?
51:00
Speaker 1: Very nice.
51:00
Speaker 2: And everything that I'm using now is first plugged into
51:04
Speaker 2: one of those, and that is plugged into the mains.
51:08
Speaker 2: So if the mains go down, I don't lose anything
51:11
Speaker 2: at least for an hour or two.
51:14
Speaker 1: That's smart.
51:16
Speaker 2: You know, we've got gas bottles that are hooked up
51:19
Speaker 2: to our kitchen. You know, we try and, you know,
51:25
Speaker 2: not everything is prepped. But I think getting into the mindset,
51:30
Speaker 2: it can become a hobby in many ways.
51:34
Speaker 1: Lifestyle. It becomes a lifestyle, yeah. Yeah. Becomes a lifestyle.
51:38
Speaker 1: And it becomes a better life. That's what most people
51:41
Speaker 1: don't understand that are looking from the outside looking in.
51:46
Speaker 1: It becomes a better life. You know what I mean?
51:49
Speaker 1: That's another important question. If you're, I don't know, driving
51:54
Speaker 1: and there's a car accident that happens and you're the
51:55
Speaker 1: only car that's going past. Do you know what to
52:00
Speaker 1: do in that situation? Do you know how to help?
52:03
Speaker 2: Does the average person have a medical kit with them
52:07
Speaker 2: in their car?
52:08
Speaker 1: No way. I doubt the average person even knows how
52:11
Speaker 1: to treat shock or diagnose it or anything like that.
52:17
Speaker 1: The average person nowadays, no way. They might do better
52:21
Speaker 1: to keep driving. Who knows? You know what they're going
52:23
Speaker 1: to do? They're going to take a photograph and post
52:26
Speaker 1: it to Instagram. Probably. Film it. Oh my god, look
52:29
Speaker 1: at this. This is horrible. Yeah. I mean, you've got
52:36
Speaker 1: to be careful about all that. There's processes and procedures
52:39
Speaker 1: in that. You have to make sure the scene is safe.
52:42
Speaker 1: That's step number one in all of that.
52:44
Speaker 2: If it happens to even your own family member, for example,
52:46
Speaker 2: you need to know some basics. I have a very
52:50
Speaker 2: mediocre medical kit in my car, but I'm actually building
52:53
Speaker 2: one actually as we speak. But I've got a pile
52:56
Speaker 2: of stuff in my car that you could probably argue
53:01
Speaker 2: falls into the category of EDC.
53:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm in my car all the time,
53:06
Speaker 1: so that's why it's there. Yeah, I mean, you know,
53:10
Speaker 1: in most cases, your biggest thing is going to be
53:13
Speaker 1: being able to stop bleeding, right? And having way more gauze, bandages,
53:20
Speaker 1: rolled gauze. I like the self-adhesive tape. I'm not a
53:24
Speaker 1: big fan of medical tape, but having way more of
53:27
Speaker 1: that stuff than anything. There's a lot of stuff in
53:29
Speaker 1: a medical kit that, like, they give you that... Band-aids.
53:35
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? In most cases, band-aids are
53:37
Speaker 1: kind of useless. And a knife. Always have a freaking
53:40
Speaker 1: knife in your car. Well, yeah, that's important. But, yeah,
53:44
Speaker 1: you want to have an insane amount of square bandages,
53:48
Speaker 1: square adhesive bandage, non-adhesive bandages, and stuff to plug those
53:54
Speaker 1: holes with, man, or those lacerations because... That's what kills people,
53:59
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Quick, before ambulance arrives, they
54:02
Speaker 1: bleed to death.
54:03
Speaker 2: And I've got loads of matches and straps for various occasions,
54:07
Speaker 2: all sorts of different length and thickness straps.
54:12
Speaker 1: For like strapping things to the car? Is that what
54:14
Speaker 1: you mean? Yeah, or whatever, yeah. I mean, I've even
54:16
Speaker 1: got heavy duty stuff for pulling another car. Oh yeah,
54:19
Speaker 1: that's big. Yeah, that's definitely big, especially depending on where
54:22
Speaker 1: you live. You know, if we've pulled a, log out
54:26
Speaker 1: of the way before my buddy's Jeep, we'd have been
54:30
Speaker 1: screwed if not in that situation. But the, but the
54:34
Speaker 1: point is like, until you need it, you don't realize
54:37
Speaker 1: how important it is that you need it. Cause it doesn't,
54:40
Speaker 1: those things don't happen when it's like, Oh, I've got
54:43
Speaker 1: two hours to sit here and cut this giant tree
54:44
Speaker 1: into pieces. You know, it happens when you're 15 minutes
54:47
Speaker 1: late already. You know, sun's going down and you have
54:50
Speaker 1: to get something done. And here's a log in front
54:53
Speaker 1: of your way home. That's how those things, it's Murphy's law,
54:56
Speaker 1: you know. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
54:57
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, you know, on a multi-tool knife, you'll
55:02
Speaker 2: get that little mini saw.
55:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever used that? I haven't. Okay. But
55:10
Speaker 1: I have a great story about it. I haven't. We
55:13
Speaker 1: have a guy who hosts a Patriot Power Hour. His
55:16
Speaker 1: moniker is Future Dan. And one of our other hosts,
55:20
Speaker 1: Dave Jones, the NBC guy, was a Army, 25-year Army major.
55:26
Speaker 1: And Dan was no joke either. He's a Ranger. And
55:28
Speaker 1: he said, I want to do a survival course. I
55:31
Speaker 1: want you to set us up and give us some
55:32
Speaker 1: really tough survival course to do. And one of the
55:36
Speaker 1: things they did was Dave shot at an azimuth with
55:38
Speaker 1: a compass up a hill and said, all right, follow
55:41
Speaker 1: this straight to this point and I'll meet you there.
55:45
Speaker 1: They either lost a machete or didn't have a machete
55:49
Speaker 1: or something along those lines, but they wound up in...
55:52
Speaker 1: the largest bramble of raspberries of all time. And all
55:56
Speaker 1: Dan had with this old Leatherman. And he was grabbing
56:00
Speaker 1: handfuls of the raspberries. He had gloves on handfuls of
56:02
Speaker 1: the raspberries and taking that serrated piece of the Leatherman
56:06
Speaker 1: and cutting through them and throwing them into the next bunch.
56:10
Speaker 1: And he did it for hours, like for hours. And, uh, yeah, that's,
56:16
Speaker 1: It will get it done. Everything's willpower. You know what
56:19
Speaker 1: I mean? Everything comes down to how far you're willing
56:21
Speaker 1: to go. And the one thing about Dan, man, he's
56:24
Speaker 1: willing to go there for sure. Can you start a
56:26
Speaker 1: fire without matches? Yeah, I just did it. My son
56:31
Speaker 1: just did it the other night. Yeah. Not only can I,
56:34
Speaker 1: but my youngest, my youngest just started the fire out
56:37
Speaker 1: back the other night with a ferro rod. Because, you know,
56:40
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things that we play around with.
56:44
Speaker 2: Well, you need to have one of those things. If
56:46
Speaker 2: you don't, you also need to have an idea of
56:49
Speaker 2: how to start a fire. Magnifying glass is one way
56:52
Speaker 2: of doing it also.
56:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. If you don't have a ferro rod, a lighter,
56:56
Speaker 1: a matches, you're probably not going to get a fire.
57:01
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The average person. Yeah, exactly.
57:05
Speaker 1: You know, if you've never done a friction fire. First
57:08
Speaker 1: of all, the friction fire setup is hard enough. Yes.
57:11
Speaker 1: And then the average person creating a dry tinder bundle
57:14
Speaker 1: and knowing how to turn that into a flame and
57:16
Speaker 1: then having a fire built and ready and laid so
57:19
Speaker 1: that that, you know, split second flame that you get
57:22
Speaker 1: can then keep the fire going. Knowing that if you
57:25
Speaker 1: screw up and this fire goes out, you're back to
57:27
Speaker 1: the board. You know, doing this again and your hands
57:31
Speaker 1: are already raw because you're a software engineer. So your
57:33
Speaker 1: hands are falling apart already. Right. The first time. I mean,
57:38
Speaker 1: it's real. I've been in this situation literally with an
57:40
Speaker 1: IT best friend. We were cutting wood at a campsite
57:43
Speaker 1: with one of those manual chainsaws. You ever seen those?
57:47
Speaker 1: We're just playing around with them to see what they
57:49
Speaker 1: could do. And this guy's an IT guy his whole life,
57:52
Speaker 1: and the hands are ripped to shreds. Everywhere that could
57:56
Speaker 1: be a blister, there's a blister, you know, after about 15,
58:00
Speaker 1: 20 minutes of doing that. So, yeah, if you don't
58:03
Speaker 1: have it. But the beauty of that story is carry
58:06
Speaker 1: two lighters. You know what I mean? I have one
58:09
Speaker 1: of those little things on my keychain you stick the
58:11
Speaker 1: lighter in. Just carry a lighter. You know what I mean?
58:15
Speaker 1: Carry a couple lighters, put a ferro rod in it.
58:18
Speaker 1: glove box, backpack, whatever. If you have a ferrata lighter
58:22
Speaker 1: and a match and you can use those three things,
58:24
Speaker 1: you can make fire with little practice.
58:27
Speaker 2: I saw this YouTube channel. I can't remember what it
58:32
Speaker 2: is now because it was quite a long time ago,
58:33
Speaker 2: so I haven't seen any of his videos in a while,
58:35
Speaker 2: but he's one of these outdoor guys, and he created
58:40
Speaker 2: a fire in reverse. Let me explain what I mean
58:43
Speaker 2: by that.
58:44
Speaker 1: I think I know what you mean. The upside down
58:46
Speaker 1: fire lay? Yes, yes. Yeah. Fascinating. It's cool. And I've
58:50
Speaker 1: tried it in real life. No, I've tried it and
58:52
Speaker 1: it works. Does it? It burns for like all night
58:54
Speaker 1: or I've never done it? No, not all night.
58:57
Speaker 2: But if you, so your standard sort of parameters is
59:01
Speaker 2: you have all the smaller stuff at the bottom and
59:05
Speaker 2: then you layer it as you go up with the
59:09
Speaker 2: thicker layers.
59:10
Speaker 1: Wood.
59:10
Speaker 2: He does it the other way around and he lays
59:13
Speaker 2: all the thick wood and everything and as the higher
59:15
Speaker 2: it goes, the thinner it becomes and then he burns
59:18
Speaker 2: it from the top and then it burns downwards.
59:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a three by three plank situation most
59:25
Speaker 1: of the time. Three large... Then, you know, eight, 90 degree,
59:29
Speaker 1: then 90 degree and smaller and smaller and smaller until
59:31
Speaker 1: you get to the top. Then you build a fire
59:33
Speaker 1: on the top. Yeah, you build a fire on the top.
59:35
Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend it. You have to know what you're doing,
59:37
Speaker 1: but I have tried it and it actually does work.
59:41
Speaker 1: The log cabin fire lay is the best there is.
59:44
Speaker 1: It's the only way I fly anymore. I mean, it
59:47
Speaker 1: really it's, you know, to to this way, to this
59:50
Speaker 1: way and so on and so forth. Stacked on top.
59:53
Speaker 1: The airflow is unbelievable. The moment you start burning kindling
59:59
Speaker 1: in the middle of that fire, the real fuel is
1:00:01
Speaker 1: catching fire. You know, so you're not adding. You're not
1:00:05
Speaker 1: adding a piece of wood that has not been heated ever. Right,
1:00:08
Speaker 1: until you have an established fire.
1:00:11
Speaker 2: And something that no one ever tells you is when
1:00:14
Speaker 2: you're doing that log cabin layout, the two by two,
1:00:18
Speaker 2: your bottom layer should be three or four logs.
1:00:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do that. Yeah, definitely. I'll tell you why.
1:00:25
Speaker 2: Because if it's just the ground, you're wasting space. If
1:00:31
Speaker 2: you actually have logs there, then while it's burning, those
1:00:34
Speaker 2: logs start getting hot and they then eventually start burning
1:00:36
Speaker 2: from the bottom.
1:00:38
Speaker 1: The best. It's, I mean, it's so much different starting
1:00:42
Speaker 1: fire that way than any way I've ever done it.
1:00:44
Speaker 1: You know, I feel so much more confident about it,
1:00:46
Speaker 1: even in wet conditions. It's just, I just, my, my
1:00:50
Speaker 1: youngest just had a big camp trip and we had
1:00:52
Speaker 1: a big bonfire and I still have the whole classes
1:00:55
Speaker 1: they're watching and they're, you know, that's a, that's a
1:00:58
Speaker 1: nerve wracking moment for a guy with, you know, the
1:01:00
Speaker 1: ultimate survival toolkit written under his name. They'll have the
1:01:04
Speaker 1: whole fifth grade class sitting there going like, all right,
1:01:06
Speaker 1: you're starting the fire. You know what you're doing, right? So,
1:01:10
Speaker 1: but I knew it. I mean, I had no concerns
1:01:12
Speaker 1: because I knew the log cabin works every time. You know,
1:01:16
Speaker 1: it just, every time it works, you build a good
1:01:18
Speaker 1: bunch of tinder in the middle of it. And before long, boom,
1:01:20
Speaker 1: you're adding big logs and boom, we had a huge fire,
1:01:23
Speaker 1: did s'mores. Yeah. The reps, man, you got to do
1:01:26
Speaker 1: the reps.
1:01:28
Speaker 2: I want to come in for a landing here, but
1:01:29
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of a way that we can summarize this
1:01:31
Speaker 2: entire conversation into one paragraph.
1:01:34
Speaker 1: So while you're making your.
1:01:37
Speaker 4: Upside down fire, you have your gun on you with
1:01:45
Speaker 4: your jiu-jitsu training while playing AFI in the background.
1:01:49
Speaker 1: While wrestling your child. While wrestling your child. Yeah. Tell them,
1:01:56
Speaker 1: don't be a wimp. You're going to get bullied at school.
1:01:58
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1:02:06
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1:02:11
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1:02:15
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1:02:17
Speaker 2: There was a guest I had some time ago, great guy,
1:02:21
Speaker 2: love him to bits. He's been on my show a
1:02:23
Speaker 2: number of times, but he's quite old school in many ways.
1:02:27
Speaker 2: And at the end of the one conversation, I said,
1:02:29
Speaker 2: so how can I follow you? And he looked at
1:02:31
Speaker 2: me very deadpan and said, it's a very odd thing
1:02:33
Speaker 2: to say.
1:02:35
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Don't follow me. I'll
1:02:39
Speaker 1: kill you. All right. James Walton, thank you for joining
1:02:44
Speaker 1: me in the trenches. Thank you, sir. Always a pleasure.