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He Invents. He Ships. He Sings. with David Ask | Ship's Log #44 · Project Candor: Ordinary People. Unexpected Stories

• 0:00
  David Ask: Well, then my success, right, my ability to produce, if I'm successful, it goes to my head, and if I'm not successful, it goes to my heart.
• 0:09
  David Ask: The fact that we were given worth, you know, before we were born, I mean, that's, you know, Psalm 139 and Jeremiah 3 maybe, I forget.
• 0:18
  David Ask: It's, it's just fantastic.
• 0:19
  David Ask: So further up and further in, the Narnia, right?
• 0:22
  David Ask: But guess what?
• 0:23
  David Ask: Now, if you can turn that around and look at your children and say further up and further in, and if I get the shovel out and start digging and start finding out what are all of the little riches and convictions, values, virtues, goosebumps, strengths, those things that, you know, just make them them, you know, it's like, wow
• 1:00
  Jeanne Andersen: Welcome to Project Candor.
• 1:01
  Jeanne Andersen: I'm your host, Jeanne Andersen.
• 1:03
  Jeanne Andersen: This is the place where ordinary people share unexpected stories.
• 1:07
  Jeanne Andersen: Thanks for joining us.
• 1:08
  Jeanne Andersen: Today's guest is anything but ordinary, but he does have his share of unexpected stories.
• 1:14
  Jeanne Andersen: David Ask is a Nashville-based entrepreneur, inventor, resilience coach, and soon-to-be author whose mission is surprisingly simple: to help people discover who they really are before they chase what they do.
• 1:26
  Jeanne Andersen: He coaches through the True North Resiliency program, is putting the finishing touches on his upcoming book, Guardians of Grit, and fair warning, has a voice that has been compared to Andrea Bocelli.
• 1:38
  Jeanne Andersen: David, welcome to Project Candor.
• 1:39
  Jeanne Andersen: It's great to see you again and to have you join Project Candor for our little journey into who you are.
• 1:44
  David Ask: Hey, I'm, I'm thrilled to be here with you.
• 1:47
  David Ask: Thank you.
• 1:48
  David Ask: Yes, and you had me at Andrea Bocelli.
• 1:50
  David Ask: He's one of my favorite.
• 1:52
  David Ask: And you do sound phenomenal, 'cause I've taken a perusal of you singing online, and it is just fabulous.
• 2:00
  David Ask: Thank you.
• 2:01
  David Ask: Thank you.
• 2:01
  David Ask: I, I sure enjoyed it.
• 2:02
  David Ask: You know, it's interesting, um, Monday this week I, I actually was standing on the, the Tennessee House of Representatives floor, and I did the, the opening prayer, but that included a song for their legislative session.
• 2:15
  David Ask: And, um, and then about I guess a year or so ago when Bocelli was here, I was asked to sing backup for him.
• 2:21
  David Ask: So that was really a- Ooh … an honor.
• 2:24
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 2:25
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, wow.
• 2:26
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, like, yeah.
• 2:29
  Jeanne Andersen: Man, that is a massive honor.
• 2:31
  Jeanne Andersen: He is so an, an, um, wonderful.
• 2:33
  Jeanne Andersen: I, I don't know.
• 2:35
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah.
• 2:35
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 2:35
  Jeanne Andersen: Um, yes.
• 2:36
  Jeanne Andersen: Really.
• 2:37
  Jeanne Andersen: And your, your Italian is very good.
• 2:39
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh my goodness.
• 2:41
  David Ask: Well, you know, it's funny, I took just enough, you know, in, in, in college and even in high school for that matter to kinda, kinda fake it.
• 2:48
  David Ask: I mean, it, I, I don't, yeah, I don't speak it, but I, I love… We've been to Italy, and I, I love the language and, you know, the culture and it's just, it's the… I don't know.
• 2:57
  David Ask: It's, you know, when you sing Italian, let alone hear someone speaking it, it's, there's something that's just really, you know, kind of romantic about it.
• 3:04
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 3:05
  Jeanne Andersen: It is one of the romance languages, right?
• 3:07
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah.
• 3:07
  Jeanne Andersen: I think it's French, Italian.
• 3:10
  Jeanne Andersen: I don't know.
• 3:11
  Jeanne Andersen: It's not Southern American.
• 3:14
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 3:15
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay.
• 3:16
  Jeanne Andersen: So first we start off with some questions, uh, and then, uh, I will go in and play our signature game.
• 3:21
  Jeanne Andersen: So are you ready to get going?
• 3:23
  David Ask: Let's do it.
• 3:24
  Jeanne Andersen: All right.
• 3:25
  Jeanne Andersen: You talk about the idea of starting with who, knowing who you are before you chase what you do.
• 3:33
  Jeanne Andersen: Was there a moment in your life when you realized you'd been doing it the other way around, and what did it cost you?
• 3:39
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 3:40
  David Ask: You know, I, I think that, I, I think the deeper we understand, you know, our uniqueness, I think the, the, the more joy we're able to experience and, you know, kind of the alignment issue.
• 3:52
  David Ask: You know?
• 3:52
  David Ask: It's if I have a, a vague understanding of who I am, you know, and what lights me up and what gives me goosebumps and what are my strengths and how do I want to apply those and, you know, what are my kind of the values that I hold that rise to the top and, and what are my convictions, right?
• 4:07
  David Ask: Those are different.
• 4:08
  David Ask: Like, what do I believe is right and wrong and, you know, what type of an impact do I wanna have?
• 4:12
  David Ask: And, you know, if we have kind of a, a vague understanding of that, we operate in, you know, a kind of a wider capacity that, that seems to be rather exhausting, and I think that was me.
• 4:23
  David Ask: And again, there are some clues here, right?
• 4:26
  David Ask: You know, we have a fingerprint that's unique in our retina, and oddly enough, our lip print and ear print are, like, wildly unique, let alone our DNA, right?
• 4:35
  David Ask: So there's some- Mm-hmm … there's some clues that, you know, the way God made us that, um, you know, we need to kinda lean into, right?
• 4:42
  David Ask: And I, uh, my, my buddy Dr.
• 4:44
  David Ask: Andy Garrett, who I often, I mean, I work with him and, and quote quite often, he uses that phrase quite a bit, "Hey, there's some clues here." So I, I do think the fact that, you know, that, again, a vague understanding of, you know, whose we are and who we are and what lights us up is going to create a generic life.
• 5:03
  David Ask: But if you really drill into those things and get radically clear on who you are and what makes you different from, you know, the person next to you or your siblings or your parents even, for that matter, you have the opportunity then to start acting and, and aligning yourself with those things that you've identified, right?
• 5:22
  David Ask: The word identity.
• 5:22
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 5:23
  David Ask: You've written them down and, and now you have even a chance to live a life that seems rich and fulfilling Yeah, you said a lot of good things in there.
• 5:33
  David Ask: Um, you know, I did not know, going back, I did not know your ear and your lip had a separate imprint just like your fingerprint.
• 5:41
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah.
• 5:42
  Jeanne Andersen: That's an interesting concept.
• 5:44
  Jeanne Andersen: So you celebrate the difference in people too.
• 5:48
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah.
• 5:48
  Jeanne Andersen: Not just that you, um, you know, have to form yourself into a certain type of person to be successful.
• 5:57
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 5:58
  David Ask: Yeah, I, I, I, you know, I'm, I might have even said this to you on kind of our previous call.
• 6:03
  David Ask: My favorite quote, uh, lately here in the last few years is by Benjamin Disraeli, and he says, "The greatest good you can do for another is not to share with him your riches, but to reveal to him his own." And I just think, wow, what a, what a wonderful approach to loving someone, right?
• 6:24
  David Ask: To, to draw out-
• 6:25
  Jeanne Andersen: Right… David Ask: all of the, the powerful, have been woven into them, and to give them a name, right?
• 6:32
  Jeanne Andersen: I mean, you think about, of course, parenting, which I'm really passionate about.
• 6:35
  Jeanne Andersen: I mean, it's, that's, that's what it means to raise someone, right?
• 6:39
  Jeanne Andersen: Cause them to rise.
• 6:40
  Jeanne Andersen: It's not just, "Hey dude, don't be a jerk. Work really hard, and you better go make something of yourself," right?
• 6:47
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 6:47
  David Ask: I mean, perhaps.
• 6:49
  David Ask: But largely, you know, I, I would say that most, you know, most people kind of got that message, right?
• 6:55
  David Ask: It wasn't, you know, "I see you, and I see how you're different from your siblings, and, and what I see is good.
• 7:02
  David Ask: And I wanna, I wanna help to, to develop and, and get underneath and raise," right?
• 7:07
  David Ask: "Those things that make you you so that you launch into life with a sense of yourself and certainty and, and, um, you know, what you're gonna say yes and no to in advance of an obstacle or an opportunity," as opposed to,"I'm gonna throw a bunch of crap at the wall and hope it sticks," right?
• 7:26
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 7:26
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 7:27
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah, I mean, I guess when you're raising someone up, you know, you, you have to be careful not to imprint yourself on them and say, "Because I did this, you need to do that."
• 7:37
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 7:37
  David Ask: Yeah, and, and we see that across so many, you know, cultures and hecklers' movies that have been, you know, have been written about that idea of parents and just saying, "You are this.
• 7:47
  David Ask: You're going to do this." And it's borderline catastrophic.
• 7:52
  David Ask: Not that we, parents shouldn't be kind of pushing the kids out of the nest and creating- Right … some discomfort and letting them get beyond their comfort zone, right?
• 7:59
  David Ask: But I think there's a, a, a really, really fine balance there.
• 8:04
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah, absolutely.
• 8:05
  Jeanne Andersen: So let's talk about your upcoming book.
• 8:07
  Jeanne Andersen: It's called The Guardians of Grit, and you draw a hard line between grit and just grinding harder.
• 8:14
  Jeanne Andersen: Where did the distinction come from for you personally, and was there a season where you confused the two?
• 8:20
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 8:21
  David Ask: So, you know, I think early on in life, and I think a lot of people, you know, men in particular, I'll just speak, you know, for, for men here for a second, is, you know, it's like you had better be useful.
• 8:32
  David Ask: You know, you had better get out there and do something that's productive and, and so on.
• 8:37
  David Ask: And I- Mm-hmm … I think that I was largely looking for an extrinsic sense of my value.
• 8:43
  David Ask: You know, I'm, I'm useless unless I can produce a certain amount, whether that's a widget or money or- Mm-hmm … you know, something.
• 8:50
  David Ask: And I just desperately wanted to be somebody, you know, that the world would applaud.
• 8:56
  David Ask: You know, those around me would say, "Okay, you're not completely useless," and, or, "You're a complete rock star, buddy." And as opposed to, you know, I mean, I, I surely just didn't wanna be a nobody.
• 9:08
  David Ask: And I… So I really feel like the, um, the, the shift, it started to happen in my, probably my mid-40s.
• 9:15
  David Ask: I'm 52 now, and I, you know, it really started to… I started to wrestle, right, in my early 40s.
• 9:21
  David Ask: Like, wow, I'm just fragmented, exhausted.
• 9:25
  David Ask: I feel like I'm, I don't have m- I don't have the keys to my own car here.
• 9:29
  David Ask: And, um, and then I, you know, I started hanging out with some folks, including Dr. Andy, that, you know, just started introducing me to myself and, and validating the things that were really, really unique to me and strengths and, and things that were rising to the top that, you know, uh, that, that when I started acting in alignment with those things, right, I started to have a, a real sense of, you know, myself.
• 9:52
  David Ask: Like, wow, that was fun to be me today.
• 9:54
  David Ask: And, and to, to start, start to shed, you know, what I thought a man should look like or thought that I should look like or to please people around me.
• 10:04
  David Ask: And again, we, we dip into those waters, you know, quite often.
• 10:07
  David Ask: There's no utopia here.
• 10:08
  David Ask: But I, uh, I really am-- I really felt like, you know, Dr.
• 10:12
  David Ask: Andy was like, "Hey, let me introduce you to yourself." And it, it was a, a real, real pivotal time.
• 10:19
  David Ask: It was about eight years ago.
• 10:21
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah, that's great.
• 10:22
  Jeanne Andersen: Well, you know, you said this statement about, um, you know, I want the world to say you're a good person, uh, or you've achieved this much or whatever.
• 10:30
  Jeanne Andersen: I think a lot of times, um, about the pioneers that, um, actually populated the United States and came over in wagon trains going out West and, you know, just built the United States for us, and they're just names that you don't hear, and they didn't have… All of them did not have a big place in history.
• 10:50
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 10:51
  Jeanne Andersen: They were just being who they were- Yeah … and moving forward.
• 10:55
  David Ask: You know, uh- So … ab- absolutely.
• 10:57
  David Ask: Here's something else I wanna make a, a clear point though too.
• 10:59
  David Ask: You know, our identity and our sense of self and so on, of course isn't just answering all the questions about me, right?
• 11:07
  David Ask: We, we, we were meant to be raised, we were meant to be loved, we were meant to be validated.
• 11:14
  David Ask: So, so identity is not created in a vacuum, right?
• 11:17
  David Ask: You have to have people around you that say, you know, "Hey, David. Man…" You know, like I do with my s- my, my daughter Catherine and Parker, my son.
• 11:25
  David Ask: You know, "Hey, guys.
• 11:26
  David Ask: Guess what?
• 11:27
  David Ask: I saw you doing this yesterday." You know, like, I could see that came from a really deep place in you and you care about that, and I want you to know that's good.
• 11:35
  David Ask: Like, we, we, we were designed to be validated.
• 11:38
  David Ask: We were designed to be loved.
• 11:40
  David Ask: We were designed for someone else, you know, on the outside, you know.
• 11:44
  David Ask: And of course, even our authenticity was given to us.
• 11:46
  David Ask: We didn't create us.
• 11:48
  David Ask: And it's… So we… But we were designed to, you know, for other people around us to say, "Hey, I just, I love you. Like, I, I see you and I… Man, this is good stuff. Thanks for saying that or doing that or participating in that way." Yeah, that's wonderful.
• 12:02
  Jeanne Andersen: That's wonderful.
• 12:02
  Jeanne Andersen: You sound like you… Uh, now you and I talked before that you really wanted to focus today a lot on, on parenting and helping people be better parents.
• 12:10
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah.
• 12:11
  Jeanne Andersen: So I, I had a question.
• 12:13
  Jeanne Andersen: You talk about setting the temperature, and you sort of talked about it just now, in the hearts of your children.
• 12:18
  Jeanne Andersen: So as a father, what does that actually look like in real life?
• 12:22
  Jeanne Andersen: Not in theory, but in the moments that matter most.
• 12:25
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 12:25
  David Ask: So h- how about this?
• 12:26
  David Ask: You cannot give away something you don't have.
• 12:28
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm.
• 12:29
  David Ask: So I, I think, I think there are so many men, you know, so many dads that are just in survival mode.
• 12:35
  David Ask: You know, they weren't raised.
• 12:37
  David Ask: They were provided for and, you know, and, and hopefully loved.
• 12:42
  David Ask: And at the same time, there's a, a huge percentage of our population who didn't have a dad.
• 12:46
  David Ask: The dad took off.
• 12:47
  David Ask: You know, the dad abused them.
• 12:48
  David Ask: The dad was distant even when he was home.
• 12:50
  David Ask: The dad, you know, was a jerk.
• 12:52
  David Ask: I mean, you know, so there's, there's a panoply of, of histories that, that everybody's dealing with.
• 12:58
  David Ask: And so as far as, you know, men and fathers go, how about this?
• 13:01
  David Ask: You have to know that that paradigm exists Well, there's-- again, there's some clues here, right?
• 13:08
  David Ask: I, I was talking to, uh, actually it was another podcaster recently, and I said,"There's a few things in this life that we're never going to hear someone say." Uh, one of them is, "Gee, I wish I couldn't play the piano." And the other one is, "Gee, I wish I didn't finish my college degree." And how about this?
• 13:24
  David Ask: "Gee, I wish my dad, or my husband for that matter, didn't lead with such kindness and conviction and clarity." So, so, you know, this idea of people like us do things like this, right?
• 13:36
  David Ask: What does someone like me do in a situation like this?
• 13:39
  David Ask: If you cannot answer that question, meaning everywhere you are and where you go, I don't care if you're in a gas station being robbed or it's Christmas morning or it's a mundane, you know, a Tuesday night in your own home, you know, you need to be the one as a dad to step into that space and, and to have predetermined, this sounds kind of clinical here, but predetermined what does success look like right now, and what does success not look like right now?
• 14:11
  David Ask: So for instance, you know, the kids are fighting, mom is stressed out, you're feeling like a total fraud and a failure.
• 14:18
  David Ask: Well, that's not successful.
• 14:20
  David Ask: You know, what does, what does success look like?
• 14:22
  David Ask: Well, I, I, I'm not gonna tell someone else what they think success should be, but I think there are some clues.
• 14:28
  David Ask: But you know what success looks like for me is, you know, I think like even last, last night, my daughter came home from college for Easter weekend, and my family were like, "Kate's home," right?
• 14:39
  David Ask: We went out on the porch to meet her.
• 14:42
  David Ask: And even my son, right?
• 14:44
  David Ask: We did a group family hug, and we're like, "We're just glad to be here." Aw.
• 14:47
  David Ask: Of course, there was some laughter and pushing around, whatever, goofing around.
• 14:51
  David Ask: But, you know, we sat and talked, and we asked questions about the other person and, you know, "What's going on here? How are you? What do you need?" Like, we care for one another.
• 14:59
  David Ask: And there's, there's a respect and a, you know, a beautiful friendly discord, you know, as opposed to everybody's, you know, mad and in their own room and everybody hates each other.
• 15:10
  David Ask: Like, that's not success.
• 15:11
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 15:12
  David Ask: I mean, there's, there's a level of, you know, we often think in life, right?
• 15:17
  David Ask: Well, I've-- I didn't quite completely blow it, you know.
• 15:20
  David Ask: My-- I stayed married and my kids are doing their deal and, you know, we get together once in a while.
• 15:26
  David Ask: That's not my definition of success.
• 15:28
  David Ask: My definition of success is my wife knows that she is adored, right?
• 15:34
  David Ask: My kids and, and my wife know that when dad is in the room, we are safe and we are wanted and we are known and, and there's great intellectual and stimulating and heartfelt conversations happening, and not just checking out, staring at your phone, watching Netflix.
• 15:50
  David Ask: You know?
• 15:50
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 15:50
  David Ask: We do, we do some of that, right?
• 15:52
  David Ask: I mean, but at the same time, if that's the overarching paradigm, that's not success.
• 15:56
  David Ask: So I think that, you know, success needs to be defined.
• 16:00
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 16:00
  Jeanne Andersen: Well, you have a framework for connecting with kids.
• 16:04
  Jeanne Andersen: This comes from your own three words of your framework are notice, name, and nurture.
• 16:10
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 16:10
  Jeanne Andersen: I'm curious, which ones of those is the hardest for most fathers, and which one's the hardest for you?
• 16:16
  David Ask: Um, you know, I think, well, I think the, the, the noticing, I'm, I can't imagine there's not a father alive who, especially when your children are young, that you're not just like You know, like you, you see your little girl or little boy, you know, running around and, or sleeping for that matter, and you cannot help but even in that moment think,"What type of a being made such a being?" Right?
• 16:43
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm.
• 16:44
  David Ask: It's like your… It's like, it's like your heart is, is, is kind of, uh, speaking a musical language that you don't even have words for.
• 16:53
  David Ask: So noticing is one thing.
• 16:55
  David Ask: You know, naming, okay, now that takes a bit of, uh, education, that takes a bit of, you know, uh, awareness and, and, uh, uh, a culture of sorts that, you know, would cause someone to have even the vocabulary to say, you know, age appropriate, right?
• 17:12
  David Ask: When your kids are growing up, you know,"Hey, I saw this yesterday, and, and by the way, I wanna help you understand what you just did there. Um, and there, there, there was a bit of hero coming through there, buddy. Like, this is good."
• 17:24
  Jeanne Andersen: That's nice.
• 17:25
  David Ask: "I see that, I see that." And then nurturing, you know, is just that consistency piece.
• 17:29
  David Ask: And I think that's, you know, to answer your question, what do I struggle with?
• 17:32
  David Ask: Well, I mean, probably what most people do, it's just consistency, is, is, you know, leaning in when the wind blows and life is, you know, hectic and the phone is ringing and the car breaks down and, you know, it's that consistency piece.
• 17:45
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, okay.
• 17:45
  Jeanne Andersen: So you can do them all, notice, name, and nurture.
• 17:48
  Jeanne Andersen: It's just the consistency to remember to do it.
• 17:52
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 17:52
  David Ask: Yeah, and I think that's the, that's the key is, right, it's, it's really the action.
• 17:56
  David Ask: I mean, you could… If you notice and, you know, you could notice a lot of things, and if you don't do something and say something, if you see something, say something.
• 18:02
  David Ask: But if you don't take the action, it's pretty useless.
• 18:05
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 18:06
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 18:06
  Jeanne Andersen: 'Cause you said, um, earlier when we just joined the call and we were just saying hello to each other, you said, "Oh, gosh, I've been going from one thing to the next, and I've been traveling a lot." And so in those instances, you're right, it could get hard for you to be consistent with, um-
• 18:23
  David Ask: Yeah
• 18:23
  Jeanne Andersen: your framework notice, name, and nurture because you're just busy, and when is time for yourself?
• 18:29
  David Ask: Well, you're exactly right.
• 18:30
  David Ask: And I… Here's, here's the cool thing, though, is I do think that, you know, the, there's some emotional capital, you know, built up, right?
• 18:38
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm.
• 18:38
  David Ask: So when… Granted, my kids are, what, 19 and almost 21 here in a couple of weeks.
• 18:44
  David Ask: And, um, you know, so it's not as hands-on as it was.
• 18:47
  David Ask: But so I, you know, that's not to say with, you know, at least, that I, you know, I don't need to be more hands-on there, you know, in, in a lot of ways.
• 18:54
  David Ask: But I, I think over time you build up some emotional capital, right?
• 18:59
  David Ask: Right.
• 18:59
  David Ask: So when dad's busy and you're just kinda, you know, you're tired and there's a lot going on, they know that, right?
• 19:06
  David Ask: It's not like they're not showing some grace because they know dad's trying to kill something and drag it home so we don't have to live in a cardboard box down by the river.
• 19:15
  David Ask: So there's some of that going on too, so.
• 19:18
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah.
• 19:18
  Jeanne Andersen: So, um, you know, m- my, I- my thought too when you're talking about this is now your kids are older, but when they were in, um, you know, governmental elementary schools and things, I don't know, maybe they went to private school, I don't know.
• 19:34
  Jeanne Andersen: But wherever they were, did you feel like you were resetting them when they came home?
• 19:39
  Jeanne Andersen: Because there's a level of expectation in schools today of, like, achieve, go to college, you know, not like trade school.
• 19:48
  Jeanne Andersen: I, I think it's shifting a little bit, but not totally.
• 19:51
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 19:51
  David Ask: No, no.
• 19:51
  Jeanne Andersen: But it's like, be at this level, you know?
• 19:54
  Jeanne Andersen: So, so two things.
• 19:55
  Jeanne Andersen: We actually, we did a combination of, of private and home school, so kind of a hybrid version.
• 20:01
  Jeanne Andersen: And, um, so part of that was is, you know, we wanted to be their chief influencer.
• 20:06
  Jeanne Andersen: Ah.
• 20:06
  David Ask: And I didn't, you know, you know, this sounds a little cold, and it's, you know, this is… But if you send your, you know, your, send your kids to Rome, they're gonna come back looking like Romans, right?
• 20:17
  David Ask: Mm-hmm.
• 20:17
  David Ask: So I, so part of that is, is I didn't want, I didn't want my kids, you know, completely indoctrinated in a worldview that I don't think is real helpful, right?
• 20:26
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah.
• 20:27
  David Ask: So, so we, we chose to do a hybrid version of that.
• 20:30
  David Ask: Um, and I think, you know, more than anything, I don't care if my kids are, you know, like, whatever, like in, in the world's eyes we define, you know, success by income.
• 20:41
  David Ask: I want them to be able to make a living and provide for themselves and their family, right?
• 20:44
  David Ask: But, um, we were very, uh, well more concerned about character, you know- Okay … than, than anything else, right?
• 20:53
  David Ask: Because there's so much in this life that we cannot control with regards to, you know, jobs and pandemics and, like, stuff happens that, you know, you, you know, there's so many things that, uh… I'll put it this way.
• 21:05
  David Ask: The only thing we can control really, and, and we have a hard time doing that, is ourselves, right?
• 21:10
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm.
• 21:10
  David Ask: I mean, that's hard enough.
• 21:11
  David Ask: But at the same time, character, you know, goes a long way.
• 21:15
  David Ask: Effort, work ethic, honesty, kindness.
• 21:19
  David Ask: And, um, so we, we really just tried to model that.
• 21:22
  David Ask: You know, just be- Absolutely be really, uh, honest and kind people and, and love our neighbor and work hard and, uh, and so on.
• 21:29
  David Ask: And I think, you know, both of our kids are there, right?
• 21:32
  David Ask: They're, they're, they're not perfect and neither am I for that matter.
• 21:34
  David Ask: But, um, as far as… I'll be honest, I think by the time they were- 15 years old, if Lisa and I dropped dead, they would've been just fine.
• 21:46
  David Ask: They would've, they would've been- That's good … successful people.
• 21:48
  David Ask: So we, um, we raised them, you know, really early in life to be, uh, you know, people of character in, in every way.
• 21:58
  David Ask: So if, I mean, would they have been sad?
• 22:00
  David Ask: Of course.
• 22:01
  David Ask: But you know what?
• 22:02
  David Ask: There was no doubt in my mind that when my son was 16 he could outwork anybody, and he would shake, shake another man's hand, you know, firmly and, and say,"Yes, sir," and he could get it done.
• 22:15
  David Ask: And my daughter was the same way.
• 22:16
  David Ask: She's a, she actually, my daughter makes the rest of us look like idiots.
• 22:20
  David Ask: She's like the- She's like the real, she's like the, the, the smart, brilliant one who, you know, everything comes easy to, plus she's a woman of character
• 22:29
  Jeanne Andersen: Wow.
• 22:30
  Jeanne Andersen: Well, I, I, I can, I can relate to what you're saying.
• 22:33
  Jeanne Andersen: Um, my mom and, died when I was 16, and my dad when I was 24, and I had just gotten out of college and was in the Navy.
• 22:41
  Jeanne Andersen: And, uh, it was young.
• 22:43
  David Ask: Wow.
• 22:43
  Jeanne Andersen: I mean, it was… been a long time since I've seen them, so.
• 22:47
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 22:47
  Jeanne Andersen: I'll see them again, but it's a long time.
• 22:50
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 22:50
  Jeanne Andersen: And, uh, but I always said that they gave us, um, quality, not quantity.
• 22:57
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 22:57
  Jeanne Andersen: Because we were, we were okay on our own.
• 23:01
  Jeanne Andersen: I mean-
• 23:01
  David Ask: Yeah… Jeanne Andersen: we had some help from, family but, um, mostly we were survivors.
• 23:09
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 23:10
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 23:10
  David Ask: So.
• 23:12
  David Ask: It's amazing how- That's, um- Yeah, that, that happens, right?
• 23:14
  David Ask: There's, there's a lot of life is, can be really brutal.
• 23:18
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah, it can be.
• 23:19
  Jeanne Andersen: But I, I like what you're saying because you're just emphasizing what I've always believed about them.
• 23:25
  Jeanne Andersen: They just trained us.
• 23:26
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Jeanne Andersen: I mean, I laugh at people n- now when, you know, our, our kids, um, you know, they struggled with, you know, school.
• 23:35
  Jeanne Andersen: They also struggle with, you know, basic chores.
• 23:38
  Jeanne Andersen: And, and that's because, um, a pastor told me one time, "Oh, you send your kids to school and they get reset during the day the way the other students are and the way their teachers are telling them, you know, how life is, and then they come back to you and you have to start all over." So there for a while we had to consider and put them into a private school 'cause it was, it was getting-
• 24:02
  David Ask: Yeah… Jeanne Andersen: you Well- But- Yeah.
• 24:05
  David Ask: And I totally get that.
• 24:08
  David Ask: Yeah … yeah,
• 24:08
  Jeanne Andersen: I was just gonna say, I, you know, I laugh because at 12 I could throw down dinner.
• 24:12
  Jeanne Andersen: It might not have tasted great, but I coulda cooked for the whole family.
• 24:17
  Jeanne Andersen: Cans of green beans and fried up some ham or something, macaroni and cheese boxes.
• 24:22
  Jeanne Andersen: I mean, but, um, our kids struggled with, you know, like, peeling potatoes.
• 24:28
  David Ask: You know what's funny is, as you were talking there, so one of the things that we, that I often emphasize, you know, with regards to development is, to your point, we know full well if our kids start hanging out with the wrong crowd, they're gonna become just like them.
• 24:41
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm.
• 24:41
  David Ask: I mean, and they do.
• 24:41
  David Ask: There, y- there, it is a law like gravity, and that's why parents, to your point, will do, go to extreme measures to get their kids away from, you know-
• 24:51
  Jeanne Andersen: From that influence… David Ask: the thugs.
• 24:52
  Jeanne Andersen: That's all there is to it, right?
• 24:53
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm.
• 24:54
  David Ask: But here's the funny thing.
• 24:55
  David Ask: We don't necessarily think about that for ourselves.
• 24:59
  David Ask: And so I think not only is it paramount that we, um, again, that we have that realization, if I want to grow, I, I need to be so intentional about hanging out with people that are winning in that area.
• 25:14
  David Ask: You know what I mean?
• 25:15
  David Ask: Like, if I wanna be a-
• 25:16
  Jeanne Andersen: True… David Ask: a person who wins financially, to start hanging out with these people.
• 25:23
  Jeanne Andersen: Yes, books are incredibly important.
• 25:25
  Jeanne Andersen: They can be life-changing.
• 25:27
  Jeanne Andersen: But again, it's… I like this, this friend of mine used this phrase, "There's more caught than taught." Meaning, if you hang out in a community of people who's, who are growth-minded and they love, you know, for instance, marriage.
• 25:41
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm.
• 25:42
  David Ask: You know, like my wife and I are leading a marriage class.
• 25:44
  David Ask: Oh.
• 25:45
  David Ask: It's like, guess what?
• 25:46
  David Ask: You, you, your marriage will get better just by sitting in that room and not saying a word.
• 25:52
  David Ask: You're going to start catching phrases and paradigms and sensing mercy from someone for their spouse that you didn't even know it was a thing.
• 26:00
  David Ask: You don't know what you don't know.
• 26:02
  David Ask: So-
• 26:02
  Jeanne Andersen: That's true
• 26:03
  David Ask: so it's fascinating that, you know, if you want to be, you know, really great at, you know, throwing a football, you better be hanging out with quarterbacks.
• 26:13
  Jeanne Andersen: True.
• 26:13
  Jeanne Andersen: Very true.
• 26:15
  Jeanne Andersen: Well, y- you already said this quote, and I'm gonna say it again.
• 26:19
  Jeanne Andersen: So Benjamin Disraeli's quote lives at the center of everything you do, "The greatest good you can do for another is not to share your riches, but to reveal their own." So if a father listening right now has ever thought about his role that way, where does he start?
• 26:33
  Jeanne Andersen: Has never thought about it, I'm sorry.
• 26:35
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 26:35
  David Ask: You know, here's the funny thing, right?
• 26:37
  David Ask: You can't give away something you don't have.
• 26:39
  David Ask: So the father needs to know that the same God who made lightning and tigers and hurricanes and koala bears made him.
• 26:48
  David Ask: You, you need to understand your own value.
• 26:51
  David Ask: You need to understand that you're, whose image you are made in, and of course-
• 26:56
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm… David Ask: your spouse and your children.
• 26:58
  Jeanne Andersen: And so the awareness, the awareness alone is, is this idea of love your neighbor as you love yourself.
• 27:04
  Jeanne Andersen: You have to take upon yourself a, a place of high worth, right?
• 27:10
  Jeanne Andersen: And, and I think, again, I'm a, I'm a Christian, so I have a, a biblical worldview, meaning what?
• 27:15
  Jeanne Andersen: God wrote himself into the story and came to prove your worth.
• 27:21
  Jeanne Andersen: And so, so it's, it's one of those things that your worth comes, you know, from an extrinsic source, right?
• 27:28
  Jeanne Andersen: And, and if we, and if we don't believe that, what happens?
• 27:31
  Jeanne Andersen: Well, then my success, right, my ability to produce, if I'm successful, it goes to my head.
• 27:38
  Jeanne Andersen: And if I'm not successful, it goes to my heart.
• 27:41
  Jeanne Andersen: That's Tim Keller says that.
• 27:43
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm.
• 27:43
  David Ask: And so, so the fact that we were given worth, you know, before we were born, I mean, that's, you know, Psalm 139 and Jeremiah Three maybe, I forget.
• 27:54
  David Ask: It's, it's just fantastic.
• 27:55
  David Ask: So with that said, you know, it's, it like… I love quoting people, C.S.
• 28:00
  David Ask: Lewis, "Further up and, further up and further in," in Narnia, right?
• 28:03
  David Ask: But guess what?
• 28:04
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 28:05
  David Ask: You know, if you can turn that around and look at your children and say,"Further up and further in," and if I get the shovel out and start digging and start finding out what are all of the little riches and convictions, values, virtues, goosebumps, strengths, those things that, you know, just make them them.
• 28:22
  David Ask: You know, it's like, wow.
• 28:24
  David Ask: And, you know, it's, it… Pe- our, our deepest longing, um, is to be fully known and loved, and our deepest fear in life is to be fully known and rejected.
• 28:35
  David Ask: So, so I think that's where you start.
• 28:37
  David Ask: You have to start top-down for myself, and now in- investigate your children, right?
• 28:44
  David Ask: Get to know them with a smile on your face, you know, and let them know that they are the absolute object of your delight, and, and their life will change and so will yours
• 28:56
  Jeanne Andersen: Nice.
• 28:56
  Jeanne Andersen: That's great.
• 28:58
  Jeanne Andersen: I, I just love what you're talking about and, you know, y- I could-- I kind of space out when you're talking about the, our creator who's made so many things and it's so intricate and so detailed.
• 29:09
  Jeanne Andersen: I just stare sometimes at the silliest things, you know, like fl- a flower-
• 29:13
  David Ask: Yeah… Jeanne Andersen: and just think, and it goes this way, and this one I can eat, and this one you can't eat." And it's just like, who thought of all this stuff?
• 29:21
  David Ask: Um- It's just, it's just like if you look at the Sherman W- Sherwin-Williams, uh, color palette, you know, and stretched it all out and you see the thousands and thousands of different colors and of shades of the same color, and you just think- Marvelous.
• 29:40
  David Ask: Yeah
• 29:40
  Jeanne Andersen: it's so much more is the creation in the world.
• 29:43
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 29:44
  David Ask: I mean, isn't it neat that we get to, you know, that He's given us a context to live in, but yet we are His focus, right?
• 29:53
  David Ask: He, He made the world, He made the world in seven days and said,"It is good." But He came for us.
• 30:00
  David Ask: Like, you know what I mean?
• 30:00
  David Ask: Like this is-
• 30:01
  Jeanne Andersen: Right
• 30:01
  David Ask: He, He says, "You are My inheritance, and I am yours." Can you imagine if everybody believed in their worth that was infinite, and the worth of the person next to them, how we would treat ourselves and treat others, right?
• 30:15
  David Ask: But we have to acknowledge we live in a broken world, and so we have to fight for those things.
• 30:20
  David Ask: I mean, it's, you know, we're- Right… we're, we're constantly, you know, pushing back against, you know, our, our own darkness and that of those around us.
• 30:27
  David Ask: And, um, w- we need to be about it, right?
• 30:30
  David Ask: We're re- we're, we're in the process of restoring what was broken and what will ultimately be restored, and I really believe that.
• 30:36
  David Ask: It sounds like a fairy tale, but guess what?
• 30:38
  David Ask: Everything in us is objecting to what is and longing for what's to come.
• 30:45
  David Ask: There's another clue there.
• 30:47
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 30:48
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 30:49
  Jeanne Andersen: Uh, I could just talk about this forever.
• 30:52
  Jeanne Andersen: But we're gonna run out of time, so I do have to transition us.
• 30:55
  Jeanne Andersen: And so now we're gonna play our game, our signature game for Project Candor.
• 30:59
  Jeanne Andersen: Are you ready to do that?
• 31:00
  David Ask: Let's do it.
• 31:01
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay, so the way it works for those listening, um, the guest has provided me with three headlines of his life.
• 31:08
  Jeanne Andersen: Two are true, and one is a lie or a twisted truth or just an exaggeration of the truth.
• 31:15
  Jeanne Andersen: Um, so I will read out each headline, and then I will guess which one I think is the lie, and then, uh, David will take us through each of these separately, not telling us until the very end, and he'll reveal which one is the lie s- and see if I got it right.
• 31:30
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• 31:31
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• 32:44
  Jeanne Andersen: Um, on screen, and here we go.
• 32:47
  Jeanne Andersen: Um, number one, uh, David invented a product that was sold nationwide in both Home Depot and Lowe's.
• 32:56
  Jeanne Andersen: Not on the Shopping Channel?
• 32:59
  Jeanne Andersen: Uh, number two, David once sang the national anthem at a Minnesota Twins game and continues to perform it, including at a Nashville Predators hockey game.
• 33:09
  Jeanne Andersen: Number three, David performed in concert alongside Joanne Cash, Johnny Cash's sister, and Dallas Frazier, the songwriter behind "Elvira." So these are hard to say that any of these are a lie.
• 33:23
  Jeanne Andersen: The only one is maybe, I don't know.
• 33:26
  Jeanne Andersen: I'll say you haven't sung at the Nashville Predators hockey game.
• 33:31
  Jeanne Andersen: So I'm gonna guess two, but don't tell me, don't tell me.
• 33:34
  Jeanne Andersen: And I'm a hockey fan anyway, but I'm for the Hurricanes.
• 33:37
  Jeanne Andersen: So, um, go with number one.
• 33:41
  Jeanne Andersen: What, tell us about that one.
• 33:43
  David Ask: So you know what?
• 33:44
  David Ask: Yeah, number one is, you know, I, my, technically my brother-in-law and I did, but we invented a, the world's first thermostat guard called the StatGuard Plus that is now sold in 3,700 retail stores.
• 33:55
  David Ask: So we're in, in Home Depot and Lowe's, and I'm hoping Ace Hardware soon.
• 34:00
  David Ask: Um, yeah, so really excited about that.
• 34:02
  David Ask: In, in addition to that, um, last year I licensed a new product that's another thermostat guard called the Lockbox Pro, and that is actually in the pro channel, which is, um, you know, Grainger and HD Supply and, and some of the industrial-
• 34:19
  Jeanne Andersen: Mm-hmm
• 34:19
  David Ask: supply houses and so on.
• 34:19
  David Ask: So pretty excited about that.
• 34:21
  David Ask: Um-
• 34:21
  Jeanne Andersen: Is that a, um, business type or like a commercial type product, or would you put it in a residential house?
• 34:28
  David Ask: You know, oddly enough, I, I do get calls from a lot of homeowners.
• 34:31
  David Ask: Typically, it's, um, it's either parents whose teenagers are, you know, spending a lot of money keeping the, you know, the bedrooms at 65 degrees in July.
• 34:40
  David Ask: Um, or it's in a, like a geriatric situation where, you know, they wanna keep mom and dad in their home long term, but they, you know, they go over and mess with the thermostat and end up shutting it off or raising the temperature too high or something like that.
• 34:52
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, okay.
• 34:53
  David Ask: We're having to kind of, you know, assist with those, those things.
• 34:55
  David Ask: But, um, mainly I would say it's commercial though, offices and restaurants and hotels and churches and factories and things like that.
• 35:03
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay.
• 35:04
  Jeanne Andersen: All right, number two, tell us about that.
• 35:07
  David Ask: So, you know what's funny is in high school I was able to, uh, with our, our, uh, choir group sing the national anthem at a Twins game, and which was just super fun.
• 35:16
  David Ask: It was a Twins-Brewers game.
• 35:18
  David Ask: And, um, uh, we got to go down in the dugout and, and meet Gary Gaetti and Kirby Puckett and, you know, some guys back in the day, which was really cool.
• 35:27
  David Ask: And then in Nashville here, I've been able to sing, um, the national anthem at all kinds of games, and including the, uh, Vanderbilt and, um, of course the, the Predators and, um, even the Nashville Sounds.
• 35:41
  David Ask: So the Nashville Sounds actually have a new stadium, and, um, here just a few years ago, and yeah, it's, uh, it's fantastic.
• 35:48
  Jeanne Andersen: Who are the Nashville Sounds?
• 35:50
  David Ask: It's, uh, they're a minor league baseball team.
• 35:53
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay.
• 35:54
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay, so I know Nashville Predators one time, Carrie Underwood's husband played for them, but he retired 'cause he was getting-
• 36:02
  David Ask: He did he did,
• 36:03
  Jeanne Andersen: he was getting a lot of, um, what is it called?
• 36:06
  Jeanne Andersen: Concussions.
• 36:07
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah.
• 36:08
  Jeanne Andersen: Uh, that's a tough game.
• 36:09
  Jeanne Andersen: That's a tough, really game, but- Oh, yeah … and the Minnesota Twins, um, you would have to travel for that, or would you, did you do a local game?
• 36:15
  David Ask: Well, I, I grew up there, so yeah, we, uh-
• 36:18
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, okay… David Ask: I'm a, I'm a native Minnesotan.
• 36:20
  Jeanne Andersen: I've been in, uh, Nashville for 32 years.
• 36:23
  Jeanne Andersen: I came here to go to college, but, and never left.
• 36:26
  Jeanne Andersen: But yeah.
• 36:27
  Jeanne Andersen: Minnesotan, is that the way how you say it?
• 36:30
  Jeanne Andersen: Right.
• 36:30
  Jeanne Andersen: Minnesota.
• 36:31
  Jeanne Andersen: Minnesota.
• 36:33
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay, number three.
• 36:35
  Jeanne Andersen: This one sounds really fun.
• 36:37
  David Ask: So, you know, here's, here's the story.
• 36:39
  David Ask: Um, I, it was interesting.
• 36:42
  David Ask: My buddy Chad is, um, he's actually Joanne Cash's producer, so he's produced her last three records.
• 36:50
  David Ask: And, um, uh, Dallas Frazier is actually a friend.
• 36:55
  David Ask: He passed away a few years ago, but Dallas and Sharon lived just up the road here, did, and they were friends with my wife's grandparents.
• 37:02
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh.
• 37:02
  Jeanne Andersen: And I remember, I remember s- when I first got into Lisa's family, I was sitting out on the porch at her grandparents', and, you know, this, this car drove up and we s- you know, this couple got out, and, "How are you doing?" And, you know, it was a lot of, you know, hemming and hawing and hugs and everything, and they came and sat on the porch with us and we talked for, you know, 45 minutes or so, and they left.
• 37:22
  Jeanne Andersen: And, uh, Lisa's grandpa looked at me and said, "Now, you know that's the guy that wrote 'Elvira,' right?" And I'm like, "You mean 'Oom Pa Pa Mow Mow'?" Yeah.
• 37:31
  David Ask: You know?
• 37:32
  David Ask: Well, he's written songs, I mean, you know, number ones for years.
• 37:36
  David Ask: Like, that was, uh, phenomenal.
• 37:38
  David Ask: And so over the, over the years, so that's just a little bit of a twist on this one, was actually that night, um, we were going to do, um, a concert with Benji Gaither, Bill Gaither's son, and, uh, Dallas Frazier, and Joanne Cash.
• 37:54
  David Ask: And, um, I had a friend of mine from, uh, England coming into town.
• 37:59
  David Ask: Uh, her name is Philippa Hanna, and if you don't know who Philippa Hanna is, she's awesome.
• 38:03
  David Ask: Well, it was funny.
• 38:05
  David Ask: That night, the night before, Benji was in his garage and fell off a ladder and he broke his arm.
• 38:10
  David Ask: And when I say he broke his arm, like, it's above the elbow, you know, broken in two.
• 38:15
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh.
• 38:15
  David Ask: Uh, so that concert was a bit abbreviated Um, but it was one of the most, like, pinch me moments, you know, that I, that I've ever experienced, because I got to stand up and sing a couple songs, you know, at the beginning, kind of break the ice and open for everybody.
• 38:33
  David Ask: And then, you know, um, Philippa got up, and then Joanne got up, and Joanne, and I didn't know it, but Joanne and Dallas were friends.
• 38:42
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay.
• 38:43
  David Ask: And Barry and Dallas Frazier sat at this cool piano, and he did "Elvira," and the whole room was singing with, right?
• 38:51
  David Ask: It was, it was one of the greatest musical moments of my life, and, um, I'll, I'll never forget it.
• 38:58
  David Ask: So in fact, I've got a picture on my wall over there of, of Joanne and, you know, it's autographed and so on.
• 39:03
  David Ask: But yeah.
• 39:05
  Jeanne Andersen: What does Joanne sing?
• 39:07
  David Ask: So she does more, I would say, kind of gospel country-ish type music.
• 39:12
  David Ask: Sure.
• 39:13
  David Ask: And, um- Okay … yeah, just, uh, she's not, I, I mean, she's… I don't think she's r- really recorded anything in the last couple of years.
• 39:20
  David Ask: Her health is getting pretty poor.
• 39:22
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, okay.
• 39:23
  Jeanne Andersen: How about Jo- Johanna, you said?
• 39:26
  David Ask: Oh, Philippa Hanna.
• 39:26
  David Ask: Yeah, so she's-
• 39:27
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, Philippa Hanna.
• 39:28
  David Ask: Yep.
• 39:29
  David Ask: She comes to Nashville quite often from England, and, um, she's, I mean, she's on the road all the time.
• 39:34
  David Ask: Yeah, so just a fantastic vocalist and guitar player.
• 39:38
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, is she country or…?
• 39:40
  David Ask: You know, she can dip her toe in any water she wants.
• 39:44
  David Ask: It is, it's unbelievable some of the songs she does.
• 39:47
  David Ask: But she does, I would say, more kind of pop, you know, gospel kind of music, and I mean, but she can do anything.
• 39:54
  David Ask: She's incredible.
• 39:55
  Jeanne Andersen: What did you sing at that performance?
• 39:58
  David Ask: Um, golly, that was, I'm trying to think.
• 40:01
  David Ask: This was probably seven or eight years ago.
• 40:04
  David Ask: Um, I think I opened with"Unchained Melody." You know the Righteous Brothers song?
• 40:07
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, I love that song.
• 40:09
  David Ask: Um, and then I… So my last record, I recorded "Unchained Melody" and I recorded "Right Here Waiting For You," Richard Marx.
• 40:16
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, Richard Marx.
• 40:17
  David Ask: I think I opened with those.
• 40:18
  David Ask: And then at the very end, um, my friend, uh, and I sang the song"The Prayer" that Andrea Bocelli and Celine Dion made famous.
• 40:28
  Jeanne Andersen: Oh, yes.
• 40:28
  David Ask: And, um, which is actually on my, on my record, and I recorded that with Abby Eaton, who's a, a British, uh, vocalist.
• 40:36
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay.
• 40:38
  Jeanne Andersen: How about, what is his name now?
• 40:41
  Jeanne Andersen: I can't think of his name.
• 40:42
  Jeanne Andersen: Uh, he sang some with Andrea.
• 40:46
  Jeanne Andersen: Um, well, I know David Foster swims around up there with him.
• 40:51
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 40:51
  David Ask: But, um- He uses him quite often, yeah
• 40:54
  Jeanne Andersen: Michael Buble.
• 40:55
  Jeanne Andersen: Why can't I think of his name?
• 40:56
  David Ask: Oh, yeah.
• 40:57
  Jeanne Andersen: Do you know him?
• 40:58
  David Ask: No.
• 40:59
  David Ask: No, I've never met Buble.
• 41:01
  David Ask: He's… Of course, I've sung a few of his songs at various concerts, but, uh, yeah, what a fantastic artist.
• 41:06
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 41:07
  Jeanne Andersen: I know.
• 41:08
  Jeanne Andersen: Some of these people, I'm just amazed at, uh, their voices and how they keep them trained and, ugh.
• 41:13
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay, so this is the sad part.
• 41:15
  Jeanne Andersen: All of these are so cool, so I… What's the lie?
• 41:20
  David Ask: Well, you know what I, I, so I think there's the, the twist on this was the number, the third one there was singing with, uh, uh, Joanne and Dallas.
• 41:28
  David Ask: Um, that actually started out… So it sounds like, you know, when you mention that, oh, you had a, a, you know, room of 500 people.
• 41:35
  David Ask: You know what?
• 41:36
  David Ask: That was a, that was supposed to be a house concert, and it, and it started to kind of build some momentum, so we moved it to my buddy Randall's studio up in Gallatin, Tennessee here, and it was still a really small concert.
• 41:50
  David Ask: We all, I think maybe 50 people there, and they jammed everybody into that room.
• 41:55
  David Ask: I mean, there were literally people sitting on the floor, um, in that space.
• 41:59
  David Ask: So I think the twist is that, you know, you s- you mentioned singing with Joanne and Dallas and even Benji, who couldn't be there.
• 42:06
  David Ask: You know, like this is gonna be some huge concert.
• 42:08
  David Ask: It was actually going to be a house concert.
• 42:10
  Jeanne Andersen: Okay.
• 42:11
  Jeanne Andersen: All right.
• 42:11
  Jeanne Andersen: Well, well, good, 'cause I liked every single one of these.
• 42:16
  Jeanne Andersen: I didn't want any of them to be a lie.
• 42:18
  Jeanne Andersen: That's all good.
• 42:19
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 42:19
  David Ask: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Jeanne Andersen: Wow, you are just quite a really diverse, uh, person with a lot of experience in a lot of different things, a inventor and singer and writer.
• 42:31
  Jeanne Andersen: So it's been such a thrill to have you on the show.
• 42:34
  Jeanne Andersen: I'm so thankful you, uh, joined us, and I know people are gonna wanna get in touch with you, so I have another, uh, slide here to show, um, you know, how people can get in touch with you, and these links will be in the show notes, uh, when it's posted.
• 42:50
  Jeanne Andersen: And you wanna say anything to folks about reaching out to you?
• 42:53
  Jeanne Andersen: 'Cause y- you said you'd love to speak to them.
• 42:55
  David Ask: You know, I think the, you know, the interview kind of speaks for itself.
• 42:58
  David Ask: I do have a lot of irons in the fire.
• 43:00
  David Ask: My, even as, as I talk I'm like,"You know, my life is weird," but it's mine, and I, I like diversity.
• 43:06
  David Ask: And so, yeah, I would just say if, if you need something, if I can do something for you, let me know and I'll do my best
• 43:13
  Jeanne Andersen: Yeah, I don't think it's a weird life.
• 43:15
  Jeanne Andersen: I think it's an exciting one.
• 43:17
  Jeanne Andersen: I just think, you know, you have a lot to offer people.
• 43:20
  Jeanne Andersen: So, um, y- I love your ideas with kids and revealing their own strengths and, and it's just, you just got a lot.
• 43:28
  Jeanne Andersen: So please reach out to David,'cause I know, um, if anything's resonated with you, and, and what couldn't have resonated?
• 43:35
  Jeanne Andersen: There's so many different o- options.
• 43:38
  Jeanne Andersen: Uh, reach out and get in touch with him, and I'm sure he's, will be glad to talk to you.
• 43:42
  Jeanne Andersen: For those listening, I hope you'll join us again next week for another episode where we have another guest and play another episode of Two Truths and a Lie.
• 43:52
  Jeanne Andersen: But from your Admiral of the Unexpected, I'm Jeanne Andersen, your host, and I wish you all, until I see you again, smooth sailing.
• 44:01
  Jeanne Andersen: Bye for now, and thank you again, David Thanks for joining me on Project Candor, where the doors are open, the stories are unexpected, and the treasure is always real.
• 44:10
  Jeanne Andersen: If today's episode made you laugh or think, follow the show and share it with your crew.
• 44:16
  Jeanne Andersen: Otherwise, I might just make you swab the deck.
• 44:20
  Jeanne Andersen: I'm Jeanne Andersen, your admiral of the unexpected.
• 44:24
  Jeanne Andersen: See you on the next voyage.