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08/02/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Mike Stuart, Howard Stint, Tamara Eubanks · The Dave Allen Show

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Eubanks, who is the executive director of multi Fest, is going to join
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us to talk about that. But I want to welcome to the show now
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candidate for Attorney General and state Senator Mike Stewart. How are you, my
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friend? Hey, I'm doing great, Thanks for having me, Thank you
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for being here. Before we get to the campaign, and there have been
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some changes with the race for age since the last time year. I will
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get to that, but first interims are coming up. Anything and just to
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give us a quick preview, anything you're looking forward to on that, well,
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I think I still think there's some uncertainty. I have not seen the
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bills yet, so I want to read the bills and the call may come
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on Friday. It looks like there could be eight to ten bills we'll talk
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about fully pass and work on the the the jails and corrections officers certainly something
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that is a priority for us. And there's several several things, as you
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said, the corrections. They hopefully something will happen soon with foster care situation,
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a lot of a lot of things are going to be covered. I
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have to ask you this since you were the head of the Trump campaign in
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West Virginia in twenty sixteen. Real quickly a third indictment came down yesterday,
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Thoughts, Well, it was predictable, like we expected it, and we
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know that there was bad news for the Biden camp on Monday, and so
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we knew on Tuesday there'd be some sort of action against President Trump. And
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I'll say I've endorsed President Trump for reelection. Was his campaign chair in twenty
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fifteen twenty sixteen, was his personal pick for US Attorney. Listen, this
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is incredibly transparently political at this point, these indictments getting into the mind of
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someone trying to figure out what they believe. There's no question and Donald Trump
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believes that election was stolen. He's talked about it forever since the election.
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But let me point out that what's going to happen here is the president now
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has the ability to subpoena right. They've included him, They've brought him into
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the federal court system, something he's wanted with the respect to twenty twenty since
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that election was certified. And now he gets to subpoena election officials in Michigan
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and Arizona, in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Georgia. There could be tens of
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thousands of subpoenas. He is going to have the ability to defend himself in
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terms of his view of that election. Not my view, not your view,
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not the view of the Department of Justice. These are specific intent crimes.
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They've got to proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the president knew, absolutely
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knew in his mind that he was guilty of these crimes. It's gonna be
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interesting to see in you and I and I almost spend a lot of time
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on this, but I've made my feelings known about Donald Trump. However,
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it does get into a dangerous situation when you start trying to look into people's
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minds and what they're thinking. But we'll cover that on another time. Let's
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say this is pile on though. That's the problem the American people have.
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That's why Donald Trump's numbers are overwhelming. That's why he will be the nominee.
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He will. The American people don't like a two tiered justice system,
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and that is what we have happening in America today. Let's get to the
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race for attorney general. Last time you were on here, it looked like
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a two person race, with you facing off against fellow State Senator Ryan Well.
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Malcolm's word from a couple of weeks ago that the race has added another
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participant, State Auditor J B. Mccuski, who had been a candidate for
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governor, left the race for governor to instead attorneys his attention toward a race
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for attorney general. Overall your thoughts, Well, I don't think it was
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a surprise. That's why it was a surprise to me to hear both these
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guys him hauling about their relationship on statewide radio last week, one talking about
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his deep affection for the other the others and Goshi promised me he shouldn't have
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done that. It hurts my feelings. Give me a break. You're running
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for attorney general, for God's sakes. This is a tough job, and
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today is the day the incandescent light bulb becomes illegal in America. We have
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the Biden administration coming after your firearms every single day, and so I wasn't
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surprised a bit. I just think instead of talking on statewide radio about your
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relationship, your friendship, we ought to be talking about the people of West
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Virginia. News flash to both my opponents, this isn't about either one of
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them, and it's not about Stuart. It's about the people of West Virginia
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who really feel under assault right now. If I'm worried about the feelings of
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anyone, I'm worried about that coal miner that's afraid he or she's going to
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lose that job today because of the assault on American energy and West Virginia coal
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by the folks in Washington. I may get the exact quote wrong. We're
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talking to Mike Stuart, state senator and candidate for attorney General. I may
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get the exact what wrong. You can correct me, but that I did.
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I read that you called JB. Mccusky the most under underqualified candidate for
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attorney general. Well you you you got it almost perfect, almost listen,
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let's look at his background. And I don't want to pick on J.
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I consider him a friend. I like him. He's a nice guy.
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We're talking about the attorney general of the state of West Virginia. I don't
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think that you should be attorney general if you've only seen the inside of a
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courtroom on television, like, I don't think you should do that. I
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think he's done good things as the state auditor, and and I would encourage
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him if he wasn't measuring up in the governor's race, that perhaps he should
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think about going back to the auditors seat pit. Of all the positions in
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state government, attorney general, for goodness sakes, West Virginia versus EPA,
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these massive federal lawsuits, it's different than it used to be a moderate in
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the role of attorney general when all these federal hits are coming to West Virginia
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every single day, I don't think so. So. My biggest issue with
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my opponents, they're both very clear and moderates, both of them. J.
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B. Mccusky voted not once, not twice, but three times against
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constitutional Concealed Kerry, my other opponent. He single handedly blocked Campus Kerry and
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Judiciary Committee the Second Amendment. Don't you for one second belief that the federal
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government under the Biden administration isn't coming for your guns. Don't believe it for
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a second. You definitely need an Attorney general that's prepared to defend the Second
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Amendment. That's just one example. I've said this. I just believe the
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difference between my opponents is the the huge cavern between BlackBerry pie and BlackBerry coppler.
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BlackBerry pie and BlackBerry Coppler, they're the same, They're the same,
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different people, the same. Talking to Mike Stewart that maybe Bryan, it
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may be promo material right there. We're always looking for the little things we
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could thry. Okay, what changes do you want to make to the office
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if you are elected? Well, I think they're a couple, and I
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think we need to use the bully pulpit of the Attorney general for a couple
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of things. Did you know during the pandemic there was eighty three million dollars
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of unemployment fraud in West Virginia alone, eighty three million. You know how
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many of those folks have been prosecuted for unemployment fraud? Not a million,
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not two million, eighty three million, dollars of fraud virtually none, virtually
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none. I think the Attorney General should have some authority over state agency fraud.
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Not broad based criminal prosecution, not trying the murder case that happens in
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a particular county, but state agency frauds, securities fraud, unemployment fraud.
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I think it's an important role for the Attorney general too. I think we
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need to use the bully pulpit of the Attorney general to work on things that
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are important to law enforcement and public safety. I think it's time, after
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what happened to Sergeant Maynard Denimingo County, we need to talk about if you
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ambush law enforcement or first responders in the line of duty, that death penalty
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should be on the table. We ought to be able to talk about this
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statewide. It's outrageous what happened to sergeant Maine, or you go back and
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look at what happened to Cassie Johnson. We had another state trooper walked up
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to a card a traditional ordinary put ordinary in quotes traffic stop because shot in
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the elbow by a guy sitting in a car could have easily killed the trooper
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him. We need to talk about the protection of law enforcement, strengthening law
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enforcement of first responder protections across the state. But then let me point out,
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as I said, the incandescent light bulb, gas stoves, hunting and
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fishing equipment that the federal government's coming after. We need to make sure the
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Attorney general isn't in a role he is learning at the time he's going into
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that role. We need somebody who's been proven and tested. My record is
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US attorney a big record prosecuted to members of the state Supreme Court, a
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Republican and a Democrat. I was a bipartisan corruption buster. But we need
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somebody as attorney general who has that proven record that I have working with federal
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authorities, working in the federal courts, because a lot of the work of
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the attorney general is in the federal courts, and so the last thing we
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need is somebody learning on the job. And I think with where we're at
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in West Virginia today, the last thing we need is a moderate in that
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position. I'm a conservative. I'm a proven conservative. Check the box up
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and down the issues. Listen. I don't think little boys should be playing
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little girls sports. I don't. One of my opponents voted for that to
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be the case. That case, in particular, it matters why that's going
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to be pending. It's pending in the Fourth Circuit right now. We probably
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lose that case if I'm predicting, and most people predict that the next Attorney
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General will be in the Supreme Court of the United States to argue that West
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Virginia's law is constitutional which bans little boys from playing little girls sports. And
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I agree with that. I think it's very hard if we have an attorney
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general that voted the other way on the issue. Pretty hard to go in
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there if you don't have the passion of your convictions. You think Patrick Morrisey's
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done a great job as a good job. We're good our great job as
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attorney general. Listen, I think he's changed the standard as attorney general.
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Look at what he inherited versus what he's created. He was behind West Virginia
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versus EPA. Let me be clear to the folks listening to this show.
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I haven't endorsed anybody in the governor's race, but I'll say as Attorney General,
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Patrick Morrisey has set the standard in terms of taken on the federal government
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and protecting our interests. I don't think there's any question that after West Virginia
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versus EPA, a case that set the standard across the country, he was
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the leader amongst other Attorney generals, no question because of that, Because of
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that court case, more people are employed in West Virginia today as a result,
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no question. But I'll say this, my job if I end up
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being Attorney General is to continue and enhance what's been happening, but also to
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build on it. I'm not going to be a rubber stamp or carving copy
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of the current Attorney General. We each go into that job with our different
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expertise, our backgrounds. I've run something bigger the US Attorney's Office for the
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Southern District of West Virginia. This won't be I won't be a no office
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at this We ran a great operation and from a budget standpoint forgetting all those
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huge operations we had as US Attorney in my final two years, with a
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budget of it about twelve and a half million dollars, we brought in revenue
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of about thirty four to thirty five million dollars. That's a pretty good return
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for the taxpayer. Before we let you go, you've been out on the
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campaign trail. You and I were talking off the air about some of the
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places you've been. What are you hearing out on the campaign trail. That's
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the first part of the question, and the second part is it was brought
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up by somebody as it relates to this race for the Republican nomination for attorney
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general that now that j V mccuski has in the race, you know JB
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has run statewide campaigns. He's been elected to state auditor. That's something that
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you have not run a statewide campaign. Ryan Weld is also not run a
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statewide campaign. What are you hearing on a campaign trail? And are you
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concerned about name recognition? We'll close with that. I'm not concerned about name
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recognition. Listen, Ultimately, at the end of the day, a Republican
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primary is going to be conservative voters that come out to vote in that Republican
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primary. Out on the campaign trail, it's remarkable the reception that we get
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all across the state, whether it's the Eastern Panhandle, Morgantown, Parkersburg,
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Huntington, here in Charleston. My name id from being US attorney pretty dart
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and strong, but I am running against somebody that has name ID, and
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the question is that you're gonna Are you gonna embrace the name ID and that
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moderate record, or do you want a conservative? The grassroots are behind me
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solidly. They know who's the conservative? Am I undergunned, underfunded? Is
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this going to be a hard campaign? You bet it's gonna be hard.
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But I think people need to know the differences between us. Do you want
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BlackBerry pipe, BlackBerry ry cobbler, or do you want a conservative BlackBerry pie,
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BlackBerry cobbler a conservative. If you believe we need a conservative to fight
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the Biden administration, you better go to make wvgreadagain dot com. Makewvgreadagain dot
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com in support my campaign and listen. I'm not looking for huge dollar donors.
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I will want those folks who live in a little white house with a
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white pick offense, that care about these things, that care about these issues,
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that worry about their future. I've supported President Trump. I support them
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today. Listen, my opponents, I'm President Trump. It's like Voldemort,
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the name you can't say, he whose name you cannot say. My opponents
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have been quiet, quiet, quiet about President Trump since twenty fifteen. I
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challenge you to find anything indicating any support for President Trump, and I think
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it matters at the end of the day. So make wwgread again dot com
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for the third time. But I need help. I'm underman. Listen,
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I'm running against the guy who's run state. What a serious series moderate.
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There's a real challenge here, there's a real you want to moderate in that
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job? Don't help me. You don't want to moderate. You want a
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conservative. You better support Stewart and can I be tough? You bet I
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can. But that's what you need as attorney general. You need a tough
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candidate well in to fight Mike Stewart, State Senator and candidate for West Virgi
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Member si PC. Tex says, Dave, when selected an AG experience and
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the federal level is a necessity. No one in the race can match Mike
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Stewart on his federal level experience. This is why Stewart makes the best candidate
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and why I am voting for him. Tex says Mike Stewart automatically can't be
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taken seriously because of his support for Podas forty five, let alone him talking
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about himself in the third person. He says it should be about the people
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of West Virginia, but he's all about himself. Tex says, Pie has
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a pastry crust on top of bottom cobblers made with biscuit batter and doesn't have
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a bottom. Mike doesn't seem to be able to differentiate between two known quantities
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only on this show, Tech says. Stewart apps about gun rights as he
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believe cannabis users in legal states are protected by the Second Amendment as a federal
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government's prohibition of legal cannabis from buying and only firearms is a violation of the
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Second Amendment. If no he can define what shall not be infringed means,
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Tex says, the only name recognition Mike's Ward has is he's the most willing
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and most talented. Okay, I don't even know what that means. I'm
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voting for Stewart for a g says the text. However, murderous murder,
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regardless if it's law enforcement or not. Bring back the death penalty. Stewart,
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age twenty fours as a texture well sealed his fate when he created the
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high school Transfer portal. Dave, when Mike Stewart as Attorney General. He's
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a quality man with plenty of experience in law enforcement and has common sense.
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I look for him to be our next governor in the future. Thanks Dave.
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According to a texture, Mike says he is sounds like he's in tune
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with a heart of West Virginia. And for you Democrats in the process of
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texting Dave, your party has lost its way. West Virginias will not allow
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all these reprobates to turn our state into a Portland, Oregon or another San
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Francisco. If so, the texture mister Stewart is endorsed by four time and
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dieted criminal Donald Trump. Does anyone need any other reason not to vote for
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him? Howard Swetz, developer is whether it's right now? How are you,
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Howard? Good morning, David. I'm just fine. In you I
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am fine. Thank you for being here. Sorry, it's the first time
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I think you've been in studio. Right, have you been a studio but
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I know you know you've been on the phone, but I don't know whether
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you've been in studio. Well, welcome to the Palmar Store studio. Great
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to be here, it's great to have great to have you here. Now.
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Okay, it's no secret some of the issues with the town Center,
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and we've talked about it. You're concerned about an agreement going back a couple
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of years, and you and I kind of exchanged emails about having you on
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the show. So you had issue with the parking situation of the parking garages
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and also with the Charleston Building Commission. I'll leave it up to you,
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where do you want to go first and explain this to people why you're upset.
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Well, kudos to Commissioner Slingo for having to try to negotiate with a
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group of people who are now quote hostage taking when it comes to the demands
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that they've made for allowing the sports center to go forward on top of the
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parking garage on Lee Street. Their demands, evidently a year after the announcement,
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are so ownerous that he's gone public with them, and so I salute
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him. I've gone through this in varying degrees three times with Lady Tower when
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they went into bankruptcy, and by the way, the Parking Garages did go
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into bankruptcy. They're owned by a group called the Charleston Building Commission. That
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that's not the good guys down there at the city that do inspections and permitting
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a code enforcement. This is a very shadowy group and my estimation they've been
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around for forty years. I can't find virtually nothing on the Internet Secretary of
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State's Office. Yet they a couple of years ago, actually three years September
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of twenty in effect allowed the mall owner to be released from all responsibility for
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the parking garages, something that had hitherto for the last three plus decades had
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always been the responsibility of them all owner. But now that was through a
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three page agreement. I think you said, I sent that to you.
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It um. I'm concerned about whether the tens of millions of dollars of liability
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associated with those garages have been transferred from the private sector onto the city taxpayers.
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No one can give me an answer. So I'm going to go to
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City Council on Monday and ask that very question and probably be ignored, but
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so be it. So one, Okay, this Charleston Building Commission that you're
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that you're referring to, you say, and you're you're an investigative count of
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guy that you can't find anything out about them? Have you approached have you
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talked to the city about it? I know you said you're going to go
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to city council, but what has been your response if you've gone to someone
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within city Hall and ask about it? Well, I have not done that,
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and that's fair. But what I have done is gone to the internet
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and spoke with reporters who have written extensively about where we are with the parking
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garages, the sports center, et cetera. And nay, you know,
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well, I'll quote Ron Butler of KIA. He says, that's an undrum.
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I mean, the ownership structure of those parking garages and the land and
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the leans and the second and third positions. It's mind boggling, schizophrenic by
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the time you figure it all out. But the bottom line to me is
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I think the Charleston Building Commission, whoever they are and wherever they reside,
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may have transferred a great deal of responsibility, liability, obligations, debt,
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however you want to characterize it onto the taxpayers. So, and here's my
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point. The bondholders who've been holding us hostage, to use the term,
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they when those garages went into bankruptcy, they didn't foreclose. The bonds were
24:42
defaulted on. They could have foreclosed, but just like a bank, they
24:47
would have normally come in and taken into property. But no one in their
24:49
right mind would foreclose on those garages. Why because they'd end up taking possession.
24:55
So in other words, if I said, mister Allen, would you
24:56
like to have three parking garages in downtown Charleston for free? Would you like
25:00
to take them off our hands, I'd say, whatever you do, do
25:04
not take those parking garages. First of all, you don't own the land.
25:07
It's ultimately going to be a great deal of liability for either of the
25:11
twelve to fifteen million dollars of maintenance whatever it is today, and then eventually
25:17
you're going to have to tear them down. It's a huge liability. And
25:19
my fear is is that the city taxpayers have had that shunted upon them.
25:26
So this situation, and for those who may not be familiar with it,
25:29
this is a bizarre situation as the way this whole town Center thing came to
25:34
be in the first place. I mean, you know, you look at
25:37
it, and I'm not an expert. You are when it comes to real
25:40
estate and things like that, But when you look at a piece of property,
25:41
you think, okay, well, and I'll use Madison Mall. There
25:47
is no Madison Mall, but I'm gonna say Madison Mall. Okay, there's
25:48
a Madison Mall. The owners of the property they own the parking lot.
25:52
They own if there's a parking building, they own the area around it.
25:56
They own the dumpsters, they own the space that they lease or rent out.
26:00
But it's it's not that way with the town center. Oh no,
26:04
it's a conundrum to use wrapped up in an enigma. So what was the
26:11
idea behind that of setting it up in such a way. Well, I
26:15
think political expediency. Senator Bird just goes all the way back literally to Senator
26:21
Bird's days in Congress, and where it is is that it literally took an
26:25
Act of Congress to allow for these tax exempt bonds to be sold by the
26:29
Charleston Building Commission, and ultimately it was on Kia Land, which was part
26:34
of Urban Renewal KURA, and then of course private private investment. And so
26:44
the mall developers only wanted to do them all proper. They did not want
26:48
to be in the business of garages that that that just overhead for them.
26:52
They don't make hardly any money on parking garages, which, by the way,
26:56
they're at the end these parking garages are at the end of their forty
27:00
year useful life with twelve million dollars of well twelve to fifteen. I can't
27:04
remember what it is of deferred maintenance. So it's just ludicrous for the bondholders
27:11
to try and hold Commissioners Selango and the taxpayers hostage for what I estimate estimate
27:19
would be upwards a thirty five million dollars of expenses and release of liability before
27:26
they turn the first shovel of dirt for the sports center. So I say,
27:30
walk away, this is a problem property. Go put fifteen million or
27:34
twenty million into the old Macy's building, which is owned by a cure of
27:38
the land and the building, and take that remaining amount of money and go
27:44
build on another urban renewal project property and clean up a block or two.
27:48
Or go over to the Kasky building, the Kasky Building, which is owned
27:52
by the city. It's going to be vacant if it isn't already going to
27:56
be if it isn't already, and let that be the new public service building
28:00
for the city. Save tens of millions of dollars there and build on that
28:04
giant parcel of land. The rest of the sports center. It's within walking
28:08
distance of the Civic Center, it's within walking distance of the aquatic Center of
28:11
the mall, etc. Etc. I'm kind of gathering now, don't I
28:15
don't want to put words in Wilth Howard, but you are a proponent of
28:18
the Capital Sports complex. Absolutely. Yes. I've seen the economic impact analysis
28:23
for the aquatics center in particular, and it is a win win and all
28:26
you have to do is look at well Commissioner Selengo would point out the soccer
28:32
fields down Shane Shanee. So yeah, this is demonstrated economic development with a
28:38
great return on investment, you know. And I know that you're in the
28:42
real estate and the development and not necessarily into retail. But I think one
28:47
of the one of the interesting things people say that malls have outlived their usefulness,
28:52
and you know, malls are not what they were in eighteen eighty five.
28:56
I completely get that the Internet and other other things have kind of played
29:00
into the equation there to kind of change all that. But you know,
29:04
I spent a lot of time in Honeyton. I'm a Marshall guy. I
29:07
lived in Tay's Valley and sometimes I had that way. And the Huntington mall
29:10
is is doing fine now was it what it was in nineteen ninety No?
29:15
No, no, the mall is but it's it seems to be doing fine.
29:18
And I and I say that to say this, the town Center is
29:22
really really struggling. And everybody wants to point at something different as the rising
29:30
leases and rent or or the issues with parking or things of that nature,
29:34
and people say, well at a texture. Somebody said, well about the
29:37
parking one of the town Center. Well, you've always had to pay to
29:40
park there. It's a town center, so that's not something new. How
29:45
do we fix that, I mean, how do we make people want to
29:48
come there again? Or do we just walk away? Well that's a great
29:52
question, and you're making very good points. You could argue that the Charleston
29:56
Town Center parking garages that were stigmatized by what was perceived to be an unsafe
30:03
in criminal activity situation, and all it takes is a couple highly publicized incidents
30:10
to create that stigma. But you also have to bear in mind, Dave,
30:15
that we have a saturated retail economy here and well here in West Virginia,
30:18
we have a declining population, and we have unbelievably difficult online retail sales
30:30
e commerce and a light that's not going away. And so with the combination
30:36
of saturated retail sector, declining population, online competition, it's hard to make
30:42
it go now. Of course, South charlestonder taking forty million dollars and borrow,
30:48
borrowing from future generations and putting into a hazardous waste pond. So they're
30:52
going to be able to underwrite anybody coming in, but they're only going to
30:55
be able to take jobs and business away from existing business just because it's already
31:00
saturated. I mean, I can show you vacant. Well, look at
31:03
the town Center. I bet je's three quarters vacant now, and who knows,
31:07
you know. I mean it was once one hundred million dollar property just
31:11
six seven years ago. Bucks they got it for seven point five. They
31:15
also were released from the liability of the parking garages, which was it was
31:21
I don't know if it was a tax harvesting effort on their behalf. But
31:25
they've come in, we boarded up all the storefronts and there you have it.
31:27
And this whole group that we're going to be the saviors of the town
31:32
Center. A lot of questions about that particular group, and I know that
31:36
they've kind of butted heads with the city already because I had Mayor good one
31:38
on the day. I think you even had the mister Hall I guess,
31:41
the main guy on the show the day of with the mayor, and we
31:45
talked about all the plans, and other than putting up a few murals here
31:48
and there, I haven't seen a whole lot going in there. Oh,
31:52
they went further. They tried to stop the hotel project, and which I
31:56
could not understand why a property owner would stop the development of a brand new
32:01
hotel that would increase their property values and increase foot traffic fur their stores.
32:06
I couldn't figure it out, and they spend it a great deal of money
32:08
in the courts fighting it, and then it dawned on me. I believe
32:14
the reason why they did that is that they could end up controlling the property.
32:16
The price or the value of the property goes down because now no one
32:21
could develop it because of that demising wall. And then they sweep swoop in
32:24
and get it for pennies on the dollar, and then they develop it.
32:29
I mean knock out a couple of texts out of text here for you.
32:31
Some one said thought the garages were funded. I'm sorry, I thought the
32:35
garages funded KURA, that's the Urban Renewal Authority which I thought was quirky.
32:38
Even in Atlanta, malls don't charge for parking. Well, those parking garages
32:44
had to be built by someone, and of course the mall developers did not
32:51
want to be expending their own money. So, as I understand it,
32:55
the Charleston Building Commission once again they floated these bonds bondholders bottom, and the
33:01
responsibility was spread over these well, the four corner anchors as well as the
33:08
mall. The mall owners themselves. The mall owners traditionally have had all the
33:14
responses, virtually all the responsibility for the maintenance and upkeep and uh bond income
33:21
uh for those garages. So you're gonna go to city council on Monday night?
33:24
You you aren't hopeful? Well, and by the way, let me
33:28
just say that Monday city council meeting. Uh, you might want to grab
33:30
you popcorn, You might you might want to pack a lunch, Howard,
33:32
because it's it's maybe along Because that's also going to be the night that they
33:36
hear the latest needle exchange programs. Thanks for the heads up. Yeah,
33:42
that's also going to be here because they had the public hearing last week and
33:45
I've talked about it on the show, and they're gonna bring it up,
33:47
I'm presuming, and I'll have may or a good one on the show Monday
33:50
to talk about it. But they're gonna bring it up Monday night at that
33:52
same city council meeting. So yeah, that's a sticky issue. Yeah it
33:57
is. So so what do you what do you expect to it out of
34:00
this going to city Council and presenting what you just presented to us on Monday.
34:04
Well, having done a lot of the homework on the Charleston Building Commission,
34:07
the ownership structure of the parking garages, and where we are today,
34:10
I'd like to think that I'm in a position to at least help some of
34:15
the counselors understand where we are and to implore them to walk away from the
34:22
sports center on top of a forty year old parking garage that ends up having
34:27
air rights leases that drain the resources for decades to come. Get them to
34:31
go somewhere else, And that's what Commissioner Selango has been pushing for. Frankly,
34:37
from from what I've read, all Right, Howard, we got to
34:39
leave it here. I appreciate always pleasure to talk to you, sir,
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morning, how are you? Good morning, I'm doing well. Thank you
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for having us, thank you for being here. It's back again. I'm
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It's bigger, better than ever. Absolutely, multi Fest is back. Multi
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Fest thirty three is back. Now, you couldn't have been here for all
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my age. I've been here for quite a few of them. Yes,
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And for those who may not know, what's a history behind multifest multi Fest
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is a diverse, diversified festival where we come together and celebrate the cultures of
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different ethnicities. We come and we celebrate in a friendly environment, non violence
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environment, where we have arts and craft, We have tremendous food vendors,
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we have clothing vendors, and of course our wonderful sponsors that come together just
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to celebrate with our community on diversity. Now, the little programming not David
38:24
Frison is going to be on with Hopey later than wanting to continue the discussion
38:28
about multivest. He had a pretty good piece in the paper about it to
38:31
a couple of days ago. Yeah, and uh, there is so much
38:35
more than just music associated goes. You think multi festists kind of like with
38:37
Regatta people, that's the thing that they all go toward, but the music
38:44
is a big part of it, and you've got a great line was looking
38:45
over the lineup before we came to nag to Mary, You've got a great
38:47
lineup of musicians. Yes, we try to hit all gendres and all generations
38:53
of music, not necessarily music, but we have some African dancers coming from
38:59
Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. We have a jazz band coming all the way
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39:08
and that is just so that people can, you know, stay healthy
39:13
while they're going through the festival. So we have all sorts of things that
39:15
are going on. In addition to our Kids Zone. We always have our
39:19
kids on where they have their special location to enjoy their fun. Now,
39:22
what's going to happen at the Kids Zone? The kids on, We have
39:24
inflatables, we have the gaming truck, we have obstacle cours, bungee jump,
39:30
um, different large board games, face painting, book bag giveaway on
39:36
Sunday. So it's going to be lots of fun and so many of these
39:38
activities that you talk about tomorrow are free to the public. Absolutely, all
39:43
the activities that we provide and including the concerts are free and open to the
39:47
public, and it's all at had at right at at Riverfront Park and getting
39:52
back to the music, because I'm a music guy. Getting back to the
39:53
music. I mean, when I saw you had the Gap Band coming there,
39:55
I thought, that's pretty that's pretty good stuff right there. Yes,
39:59
the Gap Band is going to close out the entire weekend on Sunday night at
40:01
eight thirty. We're so excited to have them. Of course we won't have
40:06
Charlie Wilson with them, but we will have the band. And then to
40:08
climax the entire festival, we're gonna have a big fireworks show. And who
40:13
are some of the other musical acts that you're gonna have there? Well,
40:15
starting on tomorrow, we're gonna have EU Band from DC, which is like
40:19
a go go band, and we're featuring our local bands and artists here.
40:22
On Friday, it's all Ladies Night. It's lady every every artist, every
40:28
entertainers is female. So we want everybody, not just the women, but
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men to come white it out. We're gonna be an all white with Kiki
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Wyatt, Sunshine Anderson, and Yo Yo, the rapper from Compton California.
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And Saturday again we have that Las Vegas jazz a musician coming in. We
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40:50
a little gospel with Crystal Rucker. And then we also have Young Jock coming
40:54
in to be with our young people. Just before the Gap band comes on,
41:00
and I'll say one more thing and I won't talk about music anymore,
41:02
I promise um. The miss Rocker that you mentioned, she is a nationally
41:07
world renowned gospel singer out of Kansas City, I think is absolutely she is
41:12
phenomenal. She is, She's a fantastic performer. What do you hope that
41:15
people tomorrow and for all your volunteers to what do you hope that people gain
41:20
other than just a good time and outdoors and summertime activity. What do you
41:23
who people learn when they from coming to multifest Well, most of all,
41:27
to talk to one another, to mingle with one another, to know each
41:30
other's culture, because again we're talking multicultural, so we're you know, we're
41:34
looking to have a lot of ethnicities there. We want you just to you
41:37
know, mingle together and learn what each other do and how they operate within
41:42
their community and then realize that we're really not all that different. We're not
41:45
all that different. We're all the same exactly, right. Is there a
41:47
place that tomorrow where people can learn go online or something to get an easy
41:52
to look at schedule of all the activities. Absolutely. Our website is www.
41:58
Multifest wv dot org. There you going. I know you got a
42:02
really good social media presence too, because I was. I stole a picture
42:06
to put in the promo for a social media and so you got all that
42:08
stuff out there on Facebook again. And tonight is the setup night. This
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is when the real work began. You guess, all rights here and a
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few yes, and it all runs through Sunday. All had that Riverfront Park
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we can't do this without our wonderful sponsors that we have, starting with the
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with that. All right, well, we wish you the best. Going
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to be a great time. Weather looks pretty good, especially for the weekend.
42:37
You know, I always look ahead to the weather, and I talked
42:39
to my friend Brian Hughes, a lot, and weekend weather looks really,
42:43
really good. Maybe a couple of showers, but you know it'll coolly off
42:45
a little bit. Yes, And I think I heard h someone say on
42:49
the radio the other day. You know, the Gap band has this song
42:52
dropped the bomb on me, So we're gonna we're saying, dropped the rain
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He kind of knocked out as many of these as possible. Going back to
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the Mike Stewart interview, Tex says Stewart compared JB. Mccusky switching races to
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gender fluidity by claiming he's committed to office fluidity, but didn't Mike Stewart just
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get elected to the Senate and now he wants to flip offices so soon?
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Does Mike really have such little self awareness? As Mike was leaving this Senator
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46:29
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46:34
multi term senator out of Boone County to when the race he is and now,
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so the next time I have and he's addressed in the pastor next time
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I have Mike Stewart on the show, I will ask him about that.
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Texas, Mike Stewart, what an embarrassment, Texas with so many good conservatives.
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Okay, I already read that one. Sorry, Tex says dear Dave.
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I know you love animals, so did you know that every time you
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advisement. Tex says, I've midway between the town Center Mall and the Huntington
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concerned with smelly, hopeless people staring at me before they ask me for my
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money that I worked so hard to get for my family. Texas. Dave
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haven't heard anything about Kent carper lately. Is anything going on? I have
47:27
not either. Of course, Commissioner carper Is is back running the Knack County
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guests on this show that couldn't be any further apart on their views are gonna
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sit down for the entire one hour show for a debate, a discussion,
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whatever you want to call it, State Democratic Party Chair and delicate Mike Pushkin
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and State Republican Party co Chair Tony Hodge in one studio, the Parmar Storage
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Studio. In fact, it should be good now. I have been the
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negotiator trying to make this happen, and they're both willing. It's just a
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matter of trying to shore up a date when both can do the show because
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they are both very busy, and we forget sometimes with political people that they
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do have other responsibilities outside just politics. Both mister Pushkin and mister Hodge both
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have full time jobs that have nothing to do with politics. And Tony is
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very very busy with his kids and so, and Mike is very busy doing
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Mike things. So it's kind of hard to try to get them together,
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but we aren't. We have a date picked out and I don't want to
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say it yet, but it's gonna be later in the month of August.
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We are going to have the two of them, no other guests that day.
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It'll just be Tony Hodge frequent guests to the show, and Mike Pushkin,
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frequent guests to the show, State Democratic Party Chair, State Republican co
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chair. In one studio studio. If the studio can hold it, I
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think it'll be a good discussion that's coming up a little bit later on.
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I'll give you the finals once we actually nail that down. Five Aty Lie
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presented in part by your hometown baseball team, the Charleston Dirty Birds. Birds
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one last night. They continue their long road trip, but they're back at
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me knock out some more to man, Mike Stewart may be the king of
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eliciting text on this show, Texas. Regarding Mike Stewart, don't forget he
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rides the cotails of an adjudicated sex abuser talking about former President Donald Trump,
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who, to no one's surprise when we kind of touched on it with Mike
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Stewart, picked up a third indictment yesterday. And you know, I don't
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have enough time to get into the whole thing, but I will say this.
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Trump loves this thing, absolutely loves it. He predicted it, you
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know last week that this was coming. And the more indictments he gets,
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let's go ahead and raise it to double digits. Okay, The more indictments
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he get, the more his basse loves him, and the more money he
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elicits in donations. So yeah, if you're Donald Trump, you're saying,
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bring on all of these indictments that you possibly can, because the more indictments
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you have, the more popular he becomes, and the more his bass loves
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it even more up his poll numbers. And as I said, there was
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a time that I thought that there could be a path forward for another Republican
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to be the nominee for president in twenty twenty four other than Donald Trump.
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That's not gonna happen as of right now. I don't see anybody else but
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Donald Trump being the nominating There was a time it could have happened to Samas.
51:20
Just keeps falling further and further away. There's some good Republicans running to
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Tim Scott, Nicky Haley, others that are running. But the more heat
51:30
that comes on Donald Trump, the more he's able to elicit campaign donations because
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basically what he does is he goes on the air and he goes to these
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rallies and he says, they're coming after me. They're coming after you.
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Send me your money, and that's what the people do. That's how he
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elicts more donations. Tech says on violence, I pretty much aligned with Mike
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Stewart on the issues, but dang, he's so insufferable to listen to.
51:52
Tech says united, we stand, divided, we fall. Tech says,
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Nicky Haley is not good. All right, we gotta go come up on
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the show tomorrow, Dunk Sippoletti from the West Virginia Virtual Academies Here. West
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Virginia State President Eric Cage will stop by, and Charleston City Councilwoman Shannon Snodgrass
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is on the show tomorrow as well. Follow the news of the dayw Metronews
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dot com and at WCHS Network dot com, and follow me on Dave Allen
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as Twitter, now known as x Ryan Nicholson's my producer, Ryan. Thank
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you so much. I will see you tomorrow. Until next time, have
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