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Backstage Chats With WARGASM At GOOD THINGS 2025 · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: All right, thanks for joining us in have you today?
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  Speaker 1: We are still here at Good Things in Brisbane and we've.
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  Speaker 2: Got the guys from Wargasm. Thanks for joining us today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got to admit, guys, I initially requested this
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  Speaker 1: interview just based on the bad name, which is absolutely sensation,
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  Speaker 1: and then I started checking you out and listening to
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  Speaker 1: music and use it way more than just sex and
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  Speaker 1: violence as a name, Like your music is fucking awesome. Guy.
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  Speaker 2: I just really liked it.
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  Speaker 3: I really liked it.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just like just over an hour and hour
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  Speaker 1: before your last show of the chordue.
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  Speaker 2: So how's it been now?
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  Speaker 1: And how is Melbourne?
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  Speaker 2: How was Sydney?
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  Speaker 4: Melbourne and Sydney were both pretty great. To be honest,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't really know what to expect, but we find
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  Speaker 4: a lot of similarities between the UK crowd and the
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  Speaker 4: Australian crowd.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I agree, I agree, I could.
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  Speaker 4: In our Brisbane headline the hall part went ten seconds
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  Speaker 4: after we walked on stage, which was a good, a
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  Speaker 4: good humbling way to start the Australian.
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  Speaker 5: Tur This is our last show of the year.
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  Speaker 4: This is our last show of the year until January,
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  Speaker 4: until January.
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  Speaker 2: When it starts a good yeah, awesome, that means you've.
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  Speaker 3: Got to go nuts.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we can go nuts. Yesterday I think
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  Speaker 5: I don't know you guys use Celsius or fahrenheits. Someone
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  Speaker 5: said it was forty three degrees on stage when we
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  Speaker 5: were playing, which is like pretty not good for the
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  Speaker 5: body when you're.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to get oxygen in ya know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: It's a scene or go rah or whatever we do.
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  Speaker 5: So that was pretty pretty pretty fucked. But today it's
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  Speaker 5: a lot colder or cooler, more mild, and our stage
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  Speaker 5: is shaded, so I don't see anything that's stopping us.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect concoction for our final show.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, like it's our first time in Australia and for
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  Speaker 5: your country is really cool and I really like the
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  Speaker 5: people here, so it's pretty honored to play the last
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  Speaker 5: show of the year here and hopefully if there's any
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  Speaker 5: Wargasm fans that have been waiting for us to visit,
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  Speaker 5: hopefully we get to kick ass for them.
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  Speaker 2: There is absolutely lots of wall games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Just because it's so far away and our schedule is
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  Speaker 5: always mental, I don't know when we'll be back. So
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  Speaker 5: we have to we have to do it right first time.
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  Speaker 5: It just least we have to just one hundred percenticular
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  Speaker 5: boxes and that that means I'm expecting the energy from
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  Speaker 5: them as well. Yeah, we both have to. Just it's
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  Speaker 5: that's our first time, in our last time. Get it
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  Speaker 5: fucking right, and we're gonna it's gonna be sick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, and get back soon as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quick.
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  Speaker 2: I'll try always.
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  Speaker 5: I've been announcing on stage and we're back next year.
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  Speaker 5: I have no idea if that's true.
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  Speaker 3: I guess, I guess. I guess you'll make the promoter
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  Speaker 3: look look like they're wrong, not me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a microphone, so I can't be wrong, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going right.
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  Speaker 1: So this is your first trip to try it, like
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  Speaker 1: you say, like it is everything you expected, Like you
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  Speaker 1: go to a country for the first time. You hear
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  Speaker 1: things from people and stuff, but you don't really know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like it everything was precked up to me.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I was kind of dreading it only because we've
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  Speaker 4: been on tour and you for a month before this,
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  Speaker 4: and European winter and Australian summer are very different, and
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  Speaker 4: I was just a little bit scared about the whiplash,
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  Speaker 4: a little bit scared about belongedlide. But it has been wonderful. Actually, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's been really nice.
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  Speaker 3: I find the people.
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  Speaker 5: I find the people both very literal and very poetic
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  Speaker 5: at the same time. You know, sometimes when you guys
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  Speaker 5: tell a story, it's got I think, instead of going
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  Speaker 5: like I'm in the middle of a story, or like
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  Speaker 5: hmm or stuttering, I think you guys throw like a
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  Speaker 5: million analogies in yeah, which leads to some bizarre sentences.
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  Speaker 5: But it's it's quite it's quite cool, and then very
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  Speaker 5: literal when something needs to sorting out. So that's that.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't expect that, but I guess it totally makes
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  Speaker 5: sense now, like being around the country and see how
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  Speaker 5: it operates. But yeah, it kind of was what I expected.
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  Speaker 5: I was just covered in snakes and I had to
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  Speaker 5: didn't go, so that was kind of cool.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: I think everyone's my friend. I don't know if they'll
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  Speaker 5: let me take him on stage, but.
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  Speaker 4: To dry God loves a tryer.
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  Speaker 6: You guys, you do a lot of collapse. There's a
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  Speaker 6: lot of you know, really really awesome collapse. You've had
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  Speaker 6: Corey Taylor, Fred Durst and a Chicari and really sick ship,
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  Speaker 6: really seeks stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Is there. I'm not going to say a favorite.
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  Speaker 6: Let's not do favorites, but is there a standout that
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  Speaker 6: you had a really good time with somebody that was
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  Speaker 6: just really.
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  Speaker 5: Dope to work with.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the Fred one might be my favorite,
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  Speaker 4: just because I remember when he sent so he did.
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  Speaker 5: His and it was the first collabor Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was the first big collab we done, so you
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  Speaker 5: already had definitely yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we.
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  Speaker 4: Are lots of very talented friends.
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  Speaker 2: What can I say?
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  Speaker 4: But Fred sent over his bits because he'd done them
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  Speaker 4: remotely in a different studio, send them over, and I was,
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  Speaker 4: I was, and I was, Yeah that was That was
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  Speaker 4: a that was a pretty good defining moment, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I think for me, like and like, it's horrible to
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  Speaker 5: pick favorites because everything's different, But the Pendulum Collapse was
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  Speaker 5: interesting just because that's a sound that I totally love
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  Speaker 5: and respect. It's like right up my street is like
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  Speaker 5: right up my street for like the direction I want
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  Speaker 5: to head in and watching Rob dor is thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of kind of strange, you know, because he's
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  Speaker 3: like kind of.
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  Speaker 5: Chill in the studio and I'm kind of like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: but I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we've really connected, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean obviously we really connected because he comes on
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  Speaker 5: the stage of us, and we go on stage of him,
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  Speaker 5: and we will hang out at the pub, so that
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  Speaker 5: that probably means you're connected. But just like his way
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  Speaker 5: of working, like it's got that really cool synth line
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  Speaker 5: in it, but that wasn't in there when we left
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  Speaker 5: a session. That's his brain adding that. So I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: this is why he makes the big butts. That's the
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  Speaker 5: fucking moment you know, Yeah, he does. He just has
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  Speaker 5: these moments that he throws in. So for me as
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  Speaker 5: a songwriter, I was like, that's why can I want
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  Speaker 5: to know how to do that? That was cool being
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  Speaker 5: inside the process, you know, see him behind the cart I.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate that's awesome to be sharing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice. But is there a collab coming? Can
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  Speaker 2: we give a scoop? Is there something?
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  Speaker 1: Do we?
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  Speaker 5: Uh? There's not, there's not yet, but there's a I
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  Speaker 5: mean we're always working on like bumming around studios in
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  Speaker 5: central London, so anything, Yeah, anything can happen.
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  Speaker 3: What's your share? Is your share collab.
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  Speaker 2: She's still alive studio, Well, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: I know I'd like to.
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  Speaker 5: There's there's like a wish list, you know, we'd have
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  Speaker 5: to like reco nasty fucking Mickey Minaj would be mental
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  Speaker 5: over you know, yeah, just because like the way she
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  Speaker 5: interacts with Carne or Monster, I'd be like, yo, what
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  Speaker 5: about that?
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  Speaker 2: But with guitar, Yeah, with a bit of aggression.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's those stuff. Robbie Williams would be cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be sick.
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  Speaker 5: But then there's some my friends in the in the
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  Speaker 5: rock scene that we're always talking to.
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  Speaker 3: There's always there's.
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  Speaker 5: A bunch of us who like funk around with beats
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  Speaker 5: and stuff that we're always sending each other different like
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  Speaker 5: drop box forward its Yeah, you never know what's going
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  Speaker 5: to come back.
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  Speaker 3: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So it's possible. Oh yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Watching three film CITs last night, I think it is
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  Speaker 1: a song called Vigilantes. There's a line flashes up that
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  Speaker 1: says angry music for sad people, Like, is that like
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  Speaker 1: a mantra of yours?
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  Speaker 2: If I love it?
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  Speaker 3: About it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, because I mean it's right if you're angry, I
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  Speaker 2: mean angry to ship.
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  Speaker 5: It's but it's it's yeah, it's a manta because it's
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  Speaker 5: about because I'm quite an angry person, which is not
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  Speaker 5: always cool, but it's it's it's about anger being a
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  Speaker 5: valid energy when like channeled in the right way.
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  Speaker 3: You know, being disappointed and maybe yourself in a day.
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  Speaker 5: Can lead to betterment and things like that. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: also sometimes when people are something something to feature you
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  Speaker 5: and you feel a bit like bummed down, maybe anger
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  Speaker 5: is the way to get out of that hole.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's like fuck it on climbing. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: So that's that angry songs sad people is just kind
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  Speaker 5: of what it felt like we were created. I feel
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  Speaker 5: like when we first met, we kind of sets as
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  Speaker 5: like the monus, like you know, like the brief for
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  Speaker 5: the dissertation or whatever. We're like, let's do that, let's
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  Speaker 5: work towards it. And you know, sometimes when you write
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  Speaker 5: in a track, you're like, if it doesn't fit that brief,
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  Speaker 5: maybe it's not for war gas and maybe it goes
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  Speaker 5: in the to sell to someone else pile.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah is that fair?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Perfect, It's way And listen to three music guys
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  Speaker 1: like it's an eclectic mix of their stretching guitars, there's
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  Speaker 1: dance floor beats, there's a lot of aggression, there's great harmony.
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  Speaker 1: It's like on paper that shouldn't work, Like if you
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  Speaker 1: guys make it work?
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  Speaker 2: Like is it trial and error? Is it good writing?
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  Speaker 2: Is it like chemistry?
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  Speaker 4: Like it's a big blender called our brains and we
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  Speaker 4: just shove everything into the world. Yeah, a lot of
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  Speaker 4: trial and error. Sometimes I'll throw ideas that maybe are
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  Speaker 4: a bit left field, that shouldn't exactly go with what
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  Speaker 4: we've started with. But then in the end we always
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  Speaker 4: find a way to shove the pieces together exactly.
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  Speaker 5: But you were just saying that on paper it didn't work.
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  Speaker 5: But like you know, I'm from London. London's punk as
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  Speaker 5: fuck and punk punk is a punk fashion is an
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  Speaker 5: ugly fashion, you know what I mean. But look how
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  Speaker 5: influential and how exciting this still is. Sometimes you shud
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  Speaker 5: things together that are ugly and don't work, but that's
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  Speaker 5: that's it.
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  Speaker 4: We don't always want beautiful fish started. Somebody said in
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  Speaker 4: ten years there going to be one of the best
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  Speaker 4: pop bands in the world. Someone would have said on paper,
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  Speaker 4: that shouldn't work, but it fucking does.
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  Speaker 2: So again, you know, mixing rock and electronica. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: not anything, but it's definitely next level. You really do.
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  Speaker 3: There's a song that I love, bad Scene.
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  Speaker 2: It just holped mees man, It hooked me in straight up.
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  Speaker 2: It's got big fat riffs. Yeah, yeah, that's that's what
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  Speaker 2: it is is. There was there a particular influence on
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  Speaker 2: that track that what youre there liked it. Why, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. It just feels a bit different for me.
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  Speaker 5: I was I was writing for another artist and I
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  Speaker 5: wrote that for another artist and then they just didn't
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  Speaker 5: get back to me.
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  Speaker 3: And then Milky was like, give me that, and then
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  Speaker 3: Milki really took the reins.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to rip off Kubla Khan and put a
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  Speaker 4: good bitch in a song because I feel like people
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  Speaker 4: are saying, I'm gonna I'm gonna find that, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: tell them that I ripped them off to I love that.
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like a well placed bitch is like very.
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  Speaker 2: Spar is very one.
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  Speaker 4: It's right, spars and songs now days and answer, we
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  Speaker 4: need to bring it back. So I took a little
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  Speaker 4: bit Kubla Khan energy there and put the bitch in there.
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  Speaker 5: So there's a bunch of shit done for the new album,
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  Speaker 5: and there is like some way more like fucked that
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  Speaker 5: idiot new metal.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: It's like really dumb like that. Sometimes I'm so cool,
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  Speaker 3: don't don't no big, no clever, just fun.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have a scoop on release day?
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, well when we fly back, it's Milky's birthday tomorrow,
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  Speaker 5: we fly back.
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  Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Milky got back And I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Which is cool?
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  Speaker 3: And then I'm forcing Milk into the studio for a week.
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  Speaker 4: Christmas, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: That's my Christmas present being at a desk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's what do you?
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  Speaker 6: What do you dislike out of all of this, out
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  Speaker 6: of this whole life once the touring doing your dislike
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  Speaker 6: I love it's.
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  Speaker 3: The same thing every day, Yeah, the same thing. It's
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  Speaker 3: I mean like luckily our band tolerates me changing the.
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  Speaker 5: Set list to me. So it's a remix tonight, earn it?
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  Speaker 2: You have half an hour? Yeah quick?
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: But the thing I like about I don't like hate touring.
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  Speaker 5: I just like doing the same thing every day doesn't
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  Speaker 5: work for my like the kind of spicy that I've
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  Speaker 5: gone in my brain, but in the studio you walk
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  Speaker 5: in like you walk in with different people and like
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  Speaker 5: anything can fucking happen. Every day is different. I've never
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  Speaker 5: had two days the same in the studio and I've
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  Speaker 5: been doing this for like a decade.
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  Speaker 4: I enjoy touring because you get to perform on stage
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  Speaker 4: every day, but I dislike it because I have to
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  Speaker 4: leave all my stuff behind. And I love my stuff,
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  Speaker 4: all my records and my CDs and my books and
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  Speaker 4: my random things that I've amassed over the years of touring.
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  Speaker 4: I hate leaving my ship behind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's hot and cold. That's hard. Yeah, sorry, I.
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  Speaker 5: Missed my radio.
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  Speaker 3: I have so much stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I bore you. I know.
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  Speaker 4: I had to leave it. I had to leave it
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  Speaker 4: in the lock up because I couldn't bring it to Australia.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to bring out one.
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  Speaker 1: Locky if we can.
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  Speaker 2: All right, as much, we don't want to wind you guys,
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  Speaker 2: but how the people do want to appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks very much, it very much.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys, very much. Thank you absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of.
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  Speaker 5: A lot, so no what so much joy you'll mis
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  Speaker 5: you tee.
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  Speaker 4: I want to feel that my
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  Speaker 5: Soul, my toil, black time, just my you mile betweets
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  Speaker 5: I never found so