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Will Romania Join the Far Right? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas · DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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Good morning. It's already the first day of October
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2026. This is DeProgram with Ted Rall and
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Jamarl Thomas. Thanks for joining us. We're here
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for the normal one-hour show today. We go until
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10 o'clock. TMI coming up at 10. Thanks for
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joining us. Good morning, Jamarl. How are you doing?
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Good morning. Doing okay. All right. Cool. All
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right. Let's do the rundown and we'll get to
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it. Crisis in Romania. It looks like the centrists
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running the government right now are not going
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to be able to form a government coalition in
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order to appoint a prime minister. It looks like
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a snap election is going to be called. Very likely
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that the AUR, which is the Alliance for the Union
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of Romanians, a so-called far-right party,
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is likely to prevail there. So we'll talk about
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the political implications there. A ridiculously
1:08
insane, horrific fiasco in the state of Tennessee
1:12
prison system, where Christa Pike was scheduled
1:16
to be executed after a nine-hour delay caused
1:20
by court hearings. They went after her not once
1:24
but twice with so-called lethal injections.
1:27
Both of them failed. She's alive right now at
1:31
the hospital. So they're trying to save her life
1:35
after they incompetently tried to kill her. It's
1:40
a total nightmare. Skynet appears to be official
1:44
now. The Autonomous Warfare Command is being
1:51
created by our very totally straight Secretary
1:54
of Defense, Pete Hegseth. And last but not least...
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The FBI is charging a nurse, a hospital nurse
2:02
in the state of Michigan. Her name is Chloe Freeman,
2:05
with helping an ICE detainee to escape custody
2:10
and flee off into the mean streets of Michigan.
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Okay, so where shall we... Oh, please like, follow,
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from you about anything and everything that you're
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thinking about. OK, so am I missing anything?
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I think that's about it for now. All right, shall
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we? What do you want to talk about first? Oh,
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geez. I guess we can do the Romanian elections.
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Călin Georgescu was supposed to be the
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prime minister or the president of Romania at
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this point. And the European Union effectively
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worked with the Romanian, let's say, deep state
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in order to get rid of him. And I don't like
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using the term deep state because oftentimes
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there's a politicization to it. There's a kind
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of esoteric quality to it. But I mean this in
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the truest sense: people that were aligned
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with opposition parties did everything in their
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power to avoid and get rid of the will of the
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actual Romanian population that was going to
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vote him into office. He was in the second election.
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He was about to win that second election. And
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all of a sudden the election gets scuttled and
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he gets arrested. It's stuff like this,
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right? It was going on with, obviously, it was
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the European Union that was putting pressure
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on the Romanian government in this case because
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they wanted their military base to be built.
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Georgescu was not necessarily on board for that
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military base to be built, in which case this
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would have been a hitch to NATO's aspirations
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in Romania. Hence, you get a rando that they
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end up putting in after Georgescu gets removed.
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So, yeah, I'm not shocked that the Romanian population
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is not necessarily on board for it, or that they're
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having difficulty forming a government after
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this corrupt cabal comes into office. So that
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is what happened. Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah.
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So, all right, winning it. Yeah, they're going to win
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it. Okay, so two questions. Obviously we
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know, well, one's an observation, one's a question.
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So austerity obviously is always unpopular wherever
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and whenever it's tried, and yet the
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ruling elites just can't help themselves because
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they think we have too many nice things. But what
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about the Russia-Ukraine
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aspect of this? Romania is
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in Eastern Europe. It was formerly part of
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the Warsaw Pact, and Russia is...
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There's a lot of people who still have lots of
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warm fuzzies for Russia. And so,
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where does the tug of war between the EU and
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Russia, how does that play out here? It seems
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like the AUR coming to power would be good news
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for Russia, right? I think they're just
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pro-Romanian, which there's a difference, right?
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It's not that they don't think we have too many
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nice things. They just want more, and they just
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want to maintain the more that they have, if
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that makes sense. Meaning there's a finite amount
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of resources they need to take from you in order
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for them themselves to have, and vice versa.
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If you want to give more to the population itself,
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then the rich are going to get less, because more
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money, less money is going to be going into those
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things. In the case of this, yeah, I don't think
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they're pro-Russian. I think they're just
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pro-Romanian. Meaning, you may get a German
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party, for example, in Germany that says, yeah,
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we want our health care. We believe it's in the
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best interest of people to have a free education.
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We believe it's in the best interest of people
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to have so-and-so. And so, no, we don't want
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to have these stupid wars. We want to ensure
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that Romanians have what's best for Romania.
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Meaning, that's a nationalistic position, which
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is less pro-Russian. It's just what is in Romania's
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best interest. And war in Ukraine is not in Romania's
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best interest. It's just kind of that. Meaning,
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Romania doesn't need to be a front line against
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the Russians. It's not Romania's interest to
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be fed to the Russians. It's kind of
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analogous to after 9/11. New York City, which
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was hit the hardest, was the least supportive
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of George W. Bush and his global war on terror
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of any state in the country, right? And similarly,
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Eastern Europe, with the exception of Poland,
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is far less, quote-unquote, afraid of the big
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bad Russians than Western Europe, like France,
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where really they have nothing to fear, even
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if Russia was exactly what they claimed
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it was. They would have the least to fear,
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and yet they're the biggest fearmongers. Yeah,
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but it's France. France got taken over in a few
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days. That's the World War. Yeah, it's wild.
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But the same thing is true. In fairness,
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it was six weeks, but OK. Okay, fair enough, fair
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enough, fair enough. I'm being hyperbolic over
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here. Yeah, they lasted longer than Denmark. It
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was like six hours. Yeah, it was quick.
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The Germans. I surrendered. Ran them over. And the
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other
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thing about the French is they had terrible generals,
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right? There wasn't a lack of fighting
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esprit among the people, at least among
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the soldiers, at first anyway. But
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it was just a fiasco. They planned very, very poorly.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, they thought they planned very
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well, with the Maginot Line and all.
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Well, people forget that the Maginot
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Line actually worked, right? The German
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military went around it. If it had been extended
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across the Belgian border, that would have been
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a different thing and would have been tested
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differently. But the Germans didn't fuck with
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the Maginot Line. No. They just went around it.
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No, you're right. You're absolutely right.
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I forget the name of the pass that they went
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through, but yeah, they just went around it.
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No, look, I think it's kind of like immigration.
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You would get people who are in states
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that are nowhere near the Mexican border who
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would be complaining about immigration and who
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are basically autonomous, meaning they basically
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are one group. It's like Iowa
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might be 99% white or something like that, and
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you still get people complaining about immigration.
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I think it's something very similar. It's this.
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Not to mention, France and Europe have gone
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to war with Russia so many times, over and
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over and over again. They just keep doing this.
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And so this is kind of just old hat for France,
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the UK, and all of these states. Keep
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in mind when Napoleon went into
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Russia. Yeah, it was Russia at the time when Napoleon
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went into Russia. This stuff has been going on
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for hundreds and hundreds of years, and they
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just keep repeating this history over and over
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and over again. I would imagine if you're Romania,
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you don't want to die for the Europeans or the
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Americans, which is a rational position. Yeah,
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the Romanians are just on the traditional invasion
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route, like Belgium. Nothing personal, just passing
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through. Yep, just passing through. Sorry about
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your sovereignty. So, yeah.
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It's not on board for dying for the Europeans
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and for the Americans. Good for them. No doubt
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about it. Okay, we've got a few comments here
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we should get to. Jackson, JT, Robby, if the
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caliphate and/or sultanate was reinstalled, would...
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the world, in your opinion—sorry, there's some
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misspellings here—be better, as Jews were protected
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by Caliph Umar in Palestine and Saladin al-Ayyubi
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as well. Okay. I don't know if the world would
10:15
be better, but it is true, as Ben
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Moser explained, author of Anti-Zionism and
10:22
Jewish History, explained here on the program
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last week on Tuesday. It's true that
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Jews lived in peace in the Arab world,
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not just in the Ottoman Empire, but throughout
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the Arab world for hundreds and hundreds of years.
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And one episode that we didn't
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really get into a lot of detail with Moser,
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but even as late as the 1940s, there were
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over 100,000 Jews living in Baghdad, which was
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then part of the post-Ottoman Empire, Iraq.
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And they would still be there today if not for
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covert Mossad agents who went and set off bombs
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in synagogues and Jewish businesses to make them
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think that they were being driven out by the
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local inhabitants and to terrorize them into
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fleeing, because the new Jewish state of Israel
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just wanted population numbers. They wanted Jews.
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They didn't plan to treat the Iraqi Jews well.
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They called them the Arab Jews. They just wanted
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them there as a form of demographic warfare against
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the Palestinians. And that kind of thing
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happened all over the Arab world. If
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the state of Israel had never existed after World
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War II, it's not like Jews were going
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to be massacred all over in all these Muslim
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countries. Nothing would have happened. Life
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would have gone on, right? Well, and the massacre
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didn't take place in a Muslim country. It took
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place in a German Christian country. Well, exactly
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right. So it's like, yeah, it's like
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you get it. It's just all based on lies.
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Another, let's see, under Enloe: I was in there
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in lower Manhattan to see the first and second
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tower get hit and fall. Okay. Okay. A lot of
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people were. I did not see. I was in New Jersey
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when this all went down, but I made it back by
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four or five in the afternoon. Okay. So, oh,
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I guess we should just, we've now had
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a little time to digest the news of the flydubai
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incident. Right. So the official story that's
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been basically carefully massaged by Benjamin
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Netanyahu and the Israelis is that there was
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a passenger revolt. It reminds you of shades of United
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93. And so the official story
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is that this part of the story does seem to
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be true, that the co-pilot stabbed the Indian
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pilot, right? The co-pilot was Omani. He,
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obviously someone stabbed him, and it was probably
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him, right? The plane, at this point, a struggle
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ensues. The plane loses, which by the way kind
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of surprises me. I guess they were not on autopilot
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at this point. Did he have a knife on the flight?
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Right, that's a good question, right? They obviously
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didn't search him on the way in.
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It didn't go off. The plane goes
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from 34 to 17,000 feet in a matter of
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seconds. So, having been on a plane
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that lost not that much altitude in a matter
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of seconds, let me just tell you that it's a big
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jostle. It's
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terrifying. You can hear on one of
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the cell phone videos that I saw. You can hear
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that. It's like a movie. You can hear the plane,
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the engines whirring, and you can hear almost
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the metal fatigue groaning, right? And
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people are screaming. It's terrible. There's
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a steep pitch. Anyway, these people
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probably thought they were going to die. So then
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here's where the story becomes, let's just say,
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a story. And maybe it's true. Maybe it's not true.
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But the story is that the passengers then broke
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down. They recovered from the fall and their
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disorientation. Some of the big bruiser
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Israelis made their way into the cockpit, overcame
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the assailant, and detained him. And then the
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story changes between either the heroic Indian
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pilot successfully, despite his wounds, successfully
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lands the plane, or a Russian and a Ukrainian
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pilot who happened to be aboard decide to
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put their national differences aside and
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say, attention, ladies and gentlemen,
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are there two pilots on board by any chance?
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And they landed the plane in a total
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kumbaya, Zelensky-hangs-out-with-Putin moment.
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And then they land the plane and
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that's it. And there's so many. Look,
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when Netanyahu speaks, you always
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have to assume lies are happening. Yeah. There's
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video of one of the passengers with
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a bloodstained T-shirt meeting Netanyahu. And
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he said, oh, I kept asking for my luggage. Otherwise,
15:23
so I could change my T-shirt. And Netanyahu
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goes, come here, big guy. It's OK. And the thing
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is, it's an airport. They don't sell
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T-shirts at the gift shop. The guy's wearing
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a T-shirt. Anyway, the point is, maybe this
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is all exactly being presented as. But it just
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seems like a perfect narrative for these bold
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Israelis fighting Arab jihadis, breaking down
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the door, despite the fact that the cockpit doors
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are supposed to be reinforced with steel doors
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ever since, through the last quarter century.
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I don't know. I don't know what to think here.
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I guess I'm just in wait-and-see mode, and we'll
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see what more comes out. But I'm not taking this
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at face value. Yeah, I don't think anything about
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it one way or any other, if I'm being honest
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with you. Could it be true? Sure. All sorts of
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things can be true. There could be a ham sandwich
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on the moon. Is it true? I have no idea.
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It could be. There are a few things
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that are very dodgy with this. A, how did they
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get the knife on board? B, how did they break
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the cockpit door down when that door was supposed
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to be reinforced? How? How did they move so quickly
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after this big drop in altitude? Well, that too.
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So there was a drop in altitude
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of 17,000 feet. And we're supposed to believe
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that the people had presence of mind to raid
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the cockpit, break the door down, arrest the
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guy that was violent, apparently find two pilots
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that were on the plane to get into the cockpit.
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And as you point out, a kumbaya moment, land
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the plane. Is it possible? Sure, I suppose it's
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possible. Do I buy it at face value? No. And
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of course, what's always lost here is the political
17:16
motive, right? If true, the political
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motive obviously would be revenge for Gaza and
17:22
an attack on Israel. Netanyahu is a flamboyant
17:24
liar, so I don't believe anything that comes
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out of his mouth. Oh, yeah. He makes Trump look
17:29
honest. Yeah. Okay, here we go. A few more comments
17:34
and then we'll switch over to maybe Tennessee
17:36
or something. Zachariah, how has extending shows
17:39
to two hours on select days going on your guys'
17:42
end? Has it boosted the numbers? Hope the show
17:44
is recovering financially. Also excited to see
17:47
if any subscriber videos will come. Well, so
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Robby's probably in a better position to answer
17:54
the question about how the numbers are, but
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they definitely look better to me.
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I feel like we're recovering, and I think
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it turned out to be a great idea. Thanks, Jamarl,
18:04
for that idea. Well, if you're running
18:08
a show that's an hour, and let's say you bring
18:11
on 300 people that are watching, the moment that
18:15
you stop, those 300 people go away, right? They're
18:18
doing something else because they're trickling.
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Yeah, they're just saying, even if
18:22
it's not like you're not really doing
18:25
anything, oftentimes you just get a momentum of
18:27
people just staying. You just get higher numbers.
18:30
Plus, if you listen to us, you can't possibly
18:33
break away. We're just too interesting. That
18:36
too. Especially Robby. No, it's a love-hate
18:41
relationship with me. There's some people who
18:42
just hate my guts, and they rage-watch. Or people
18:45
are like, maybe this guy's got a point. There's
18:48
almost no middle ground. No, the numbers are
18:51
definitely going in the right way. They're trickling
18:54
up. The membership numbers are going up.
18:57
I'm even seeing bleed-over
18:59
on the gaming channel, which I appreciate
19:01
because that's how I pay my bills now. And somebody
19:03
that seriously, that helps a ton. No,
19:06
it's going the right way, and we're starting
19:08
to get noticed. I guess I'll let this cat out
19:12
of the bag later on this month. I don't have
19:15
a day yet, but Jeff Dornik is going to be having
19:18
a debate between your favorite communist,
19:22
Ted Rall, and Dinesh D'Souza, the Republican arch-
19:28
Zionist. And Ted, I hope that you eat his liver
19:31
live on screen. Yes. A friend of the show, Jeff
19:37
Dornik, is going to have that on. You either
19:41
keep down your shield or come back with it. Oh,
19:46
let me put it this way. I will be fully
19:48
caffeinated, fully prepared. Yeah. Never
19:52
underestimate your enemy. The merch selection
19:56
is growing, as y'all can see. It's all going
20:01
in the right direction. Things are going good.
20:03
The numbers are going well. Seriously, the biggest
20:08
thing that y'all can do, y'all being the audience,
20:11
to help the show grow is share the content.
20:14
It costs you absolutely nothing. And that's one
20:17
of the biggest metrics on YouTube. Actually,
20:19
don't forget to subscribe, too. Yeah. Well, sure,
20:22
but if you're looking at a monthly supporter,
20:23
it's all the difference in the world because
20:26
that's just sort of a, look, if
20:28
everybody kicks in five or ten bucks
20:30
a month, the show is
20:34
fine. Then we can do big things. We can
20:37
pay our own bills,
20:41
which is a big thing. But the show
20:44
will be guaranteed to go forward. It's not going
20:46
to be just hanging on by a thread. Yeah, for sure.
20:50
And we can travel. We could have events. We could
20:54
do all sorts of shit. I'm curious. You piqued
20:58
my curiosity. So the debate is going to be geopolitics.
21:04
I said, Ted is an atheist. I said, if you want
21:06
to do Christian Zionism versus real Christianity,
21:12
I'm the better guy for that to go after Dinesh.
21:15
I said, for geopolitics, Ted Rall, because Ted
21:19
Rall has traveled the region. He covers
21:22
the stuff. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's his life. And the
21:26
best part is that Ted isn't bought and paid for
21:27
by a lobby. They're not the ones who are financing
21:30
his books. And more importantly, Ted brings these
21:33
things called facts, and all Dinesh can do is
21:35
bloviate and filibuster. The dude's a total douchebag.
21:39
If there's ever been an example of a failed abortion
21:42
ever on a live stream, this will be clubbing a
21:48
baby seal, and that's what I'm looking forward
21:50
to. And this is wild because I don't underestimate
21:55
my enemy. I think on Tuesday, because I was talking
21:59
with Jeff, he's like, Robby, would you mind if
22:00
I interviewed you? Because he watches
22:03
our show. And it's like, sure. I
22:06
felt like I was cheating on y'all. And by the
22:09
way, who's Jeff doing it? Just one more time. He's
22:13
the CEO of Pickaxe. He was the CEO of Pickaxe.
22:16
He's a big member of the Republican Party. He
22:18
actually got expelled. He's been kicked out of
22:21
the club. Well, he's very critical of Trump for
22:24
his failure to adhere to America First principles.
22:30
Yeah, for sure. I read his critiques
22:34
every day on X, and he's spot on. Jeff Dornik
22:39
is awesome. If I was articulate, I would be like
22:43
a Jeff Dornik. The problem is I'm not that polished.
22:47
Jeff's smooth. And he looks like Alexander Skarsgård,
22:51
which makes me jealous. Okay, here we go. A few
22:59
more comments, then we'll move on to some more
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topics. Manchild, it's interesting that Muslims
23:04
have a history of respecting and protecting
23:08
the Jewish faith and culture, whereas the Israeli
23:10
Jews just want to wipe Muslims off the face of
23:13
the map. No questions. Well, I think it's
23:16
different in that, okay, so the Muslim conquest
23:18
took place basically 1,400 years ago,
23:22
right? So that part, look,
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you can look at the map of where Islam is
23:28
dominant. It's massive. It's a huge swath of the
23:31
world, so they don't have that insecurity.
23:33
The Israelis basically
23:36
swept in and muscled their way into this tiny
23:39
little patch of territory where
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they're not wanted and don't really have any
23:44
real legitimacy. And they know they did it by
23:48
force and that everybody there hates them. I
23:50
think the Muslim world dominates an area
23:55
that has so many religions, not just Islam,
23:58
that it behooved them for peace and quiet to
24:03
sort of have a tolerant policy towards
24:06
other religions. And not to mention, historically,
24:09
Jews were often the
24:12
dominant traders and financiers and
24:16
brokers along the Silk Road, where
24:20
Islam was dominant, and they were an important
24:22
part of the economy, right? So you're not going
24:25
to get rid of the people who are issuing
24:27
bills of sale and stuff all along the way
24:31
and running the bazaars and stuff. So also, historically,
24:34
there's a lot to it. Well, historically also,
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this is going to be controversial. It shouldn't
24:38
be. It's a matter of historical fact. The Jews
24:41
in the Middle Ages were natural allies of Muslims
24:44
because both Judaism and Islam teach that Christianity
24:46
is idolatry. It's a heretic religion. And the
24:50
whole reason the First Crusade happened was
24:53
because the Muslims kept going into Anatolia.
24:57
They captured the Greek islands. They captured
24:59
Crete, captured Sicily. They sacked Rome and
25:02
nearly conquered France and Iberia. And that
25:05
was all financed by Jewish trade financiers.
25:10
Christian Zionists like to look away from this.
25:12
Oh, well, they try to whitewash it. But that
25:15
is true. And there was also an alliance of convenience
25:18
economically, right? Because compound interest
25:20
is haram in Islam, but Jews don't have that problem.
25:25
So you kind of need compound interest. So it's
25:28
kind of like, we'll do this together. Yeah, but
25:31
if you're going to be an empire, you've got to have
25:33
money. Even in 1453, who was it that bought the
25:36
cannons that the Turks used to bring down Constantinople's
25:39
walls? It was Jewish bankers. That's considered
25:42
anti-Semitic. I don't know why. It's a historical
25:44
fact. Constantinople would have fallen
25:47
anyway. That was the last year of Butcher's Bill.
25:51
It was the equivalent of Hiroshima in terms of
25:55
closing the deal. Okay, so let's move on here.
26:00
Duskburn. Ted doesn't believe in the Flight 93
26:03
let's-roll scenario, right? Are we being too
26:06
cynical here? Let's-roll scenario. What's the
26:09
let's-roll scenario? That's like Todd Beamer
26:12
on United Flight 93 with the drink cart of death
26:15
saying, basically, allegedly they broke
26:19
into the cockpit on United 93 on 9/11 and caused
26:24
the plane to crash in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
26:28
I think there may have been a passenger. Look,
26:30
there certainly was talk of there being a passenger
26:32
revolt. That almost certainly is true. Whether
26:36
it actually happened, who knows. Whether it was
26:38
successful at gaining access into the cockpit,
26:41
who knows. Whether that's what caused the plane
26:44
to come down, who knows. I don't believe that
26:47
it caused the plane to come down for the simple
26:50
reason that the plane went nose-first into the
26:54
ground and just left a crater. And yet an
26:57
engine part was found 12 miles
27:00
away, and a bunch of seats and papers and stuff
27:04
from the flight were found miles away from
27:06
the crash site, which indicates to me that
27:10
it was shot down by a missile. And if you read
27:12
the 9/11 Commission report, the timeline is
27:17
like, well, we have X number of minutes to intercept
27:21
the plane, right? Cheney gave the
27:23
shoot-down order. Well, the plane comes down after
27:26
that number of minutes. So to me, that's just
27:29
arithmetic. So there's no word in the report
27:32
that the pilots of the U.S. Air National Guard
27:37
flights that were dispatched to shoot down that
27:40
plane had trouble locating it, couldn't find
27:43
it. There's no talk about that. So given all
27:48
those facts, yeah, I don't believe it. Well,
27:50
it's also an incentive for them not to say that
27:52
we shot down one of our own planes. Right.
27:55
They really thought it was going to ruin
27:57
that no one was going to want to fly anymore.
28:00
Right. They were worried about that. It was going
28:01
to destroy business. Well, it looks bad.
28:04
To say that the U.S. military had to
28:06
shoot down one of its own airliners, as opposed
28:08
to the people and the passengers in the plane
28:11
heroically taking down the plane in order to prevent
28:15
it from hitting its destination. Again,
28:17
I don't even know if they could break through
28:18
the doors. The entire point. I don't know that
28:20
either. And in my view,
28:24
it's always funny in the movies. Doors
28:26
are always easy to break down. But if you've
28:28
ever tried to do it, it's not that easy, especially
28:31
in the middle of a chaotic situation. Yeah, I
28:35
just don't really believe that. I personally,
28:38
if I was on that hijacked plane—I don't say
28:41
this cavalierly—I would have no problem with
28:44
the government shooting down the plane. I would
28:46
say that's what I think. It's probably
28:48
the only thing that the Bush administration did
28:51
well that day. Well, that's all they could do.
28:54
That is literally all they could do.
28:56
They had no power over the plane at the point
28:57
where the plane was taken over. And again, I
29:00
don't know if people are that heroic.
29:03
I don't know if people will rise up because they
29:05
have a clear understanding
29:07
of what's happening and they rise up. And I would
29:10
imagine that the terrorists... Well, they had some understanding
29:12
because they've been talking on the phone to
29:15
their relatives. They knew about the World Trade
29:16
Center. Oh, I see. I see. But it's still a tall
29:21
order for me to believe that they rose up and
29:24
tried to break down the door in order to take
29:27
over the flight and do what they believe. How
29:31
are you going to land it, right? Is this going
29:33
to be one of those things like you're sent with
29:37
Sandra Bullock on the flight and Keanu Reeves
29:40
was going to explain how to bring the plane in
29:42
for a landing? Because where were the pilots?
29:45
Were the pilots dead at that point? Pilots were,
29:48
yeah. Well, yeah, the pilots had
29:51
their throats slit. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So yeah,
29:54
they would have had to somehow land the plane.
29:56
Yeah. I don't know. I think I'm on team Ted on
29:59
this. It just doesn't really, it just doesn't
30:01
make sense. I don't want to hate the story.
30:04
I just don't think, cold-bloodedly, I just don't think it's
30:08
true. Well, every incident in the world
30:10
is for
30:13
the U.S. to not own up to the fact that it shot
30:16
down an airplane. It looks better to say these heroic
30:18
people, these heroic Americans,
30:23
any random American, right, sacrifice their lives
30:28
for the larger objective of so-and-so. That story
30:30
sounds great, but it may just be, well, we shot
30:34
down our plane because we didn't want that plane
30:35
to hit. And frankly, again, I have no problem with
30:38
that at all. But yeah, but see, they don't like
30:42
the story. I think they just don't like that story.
30:44
Yeah, the airlines didn't like that story either.
30:47
Farhaj, morning all. Jamarl, no show this morning?
30:52
No, I wasn't feeling well this morning. I have
30:56
a show tomorrow, though. Okay, good. Exile, if
30:59
you don't see the Luciferian militant river running
31:01
through history, you don't have the perspective
31:03
to understand the definitions properly. I like
31:07
the word Luciferian. Luciferian is a great word.
31:11
Godspeed, Ted. Thanks for the $10. Dead Mean
31:15
Club. Also, side note, have you seen David Grusch
31:18
talk about the greys and reptilians fighting
31:20
the U.S., killing reptilians after being attacked?
31:23
Do you all believe in aliens? Oh, fuck. We now
31:27
move to the Jamarl Thomas section. Grusch said that?
31:31
I didn't know Grusch said that. Yeah, I got to
31:35
look that up. I didn't know Grusch said that. What
31:38
the U.S. military has been doing is, hey, there's
31:41
something there, but we're not going to explain
31:42
what it is. And the reality of it is, what you
31:45
see as a craft is less interesting than what's
31:49
in the craft. At least to me, it was always,
31:51
right? It's like something built that craft.
31:54
How did that craft get here? Where's the craft
31:56
located? Many times what we're seeing are these
31:59
kind of small craft. Okay, well, how did they
32:01
get here? That type of stuff. I did not know
32:04
Grusch went that far into it. That would be very
32:08
interesting to hear. I got to be honest
32:11
with you. I would prefer him not doing that.
32:14
Even if it's true, I would prefer him not doing
32:16
that. It's too much. Nothing about this. Nothing.
32:21
So, okay. David Grusch is a whistleblower. David
32:23
Grusch works for the U.S. military. And he came
32:28
out and basically exposed. And by the way, legitimately
32:32
did so. Not like 20 years ago. Like a year or
32:36
two ago. And his credentials were on point. Everything
32:41
checked out. So he is who he says he is. But
32:45
Grusch is saying, look, I was working for the
32:49
military, picking up crash retrievals. That
32:53
was his point. And he even goes into explaining.
32:56
And when he wrote the book, a lot of the book,
32:58
they wouldn't even let him write a lot
32:59
of the stuff, because the military, when people
33:01
write books, the military has to approve the
33:03
book that is being written. So any book that
33:06
you've ever read on anything that came out of
33:08
somebody in the military, they had to get approval
33:09
for that book. And in Grusch's case, a lot of
33:13
that stuff wasn't even approved. He had to kind
33:14
of write around it. Now, Grusch is real. I would
33:19
prefer him not saying that. A, I don't believe
33:23
in reptilians. There's that. And my belief, I
33:26
guess, doesn't really matter. You don't think
33:28
he was real? I just don't buy reptilians. I love
33:33
the show V. Just saying. Nah, I don't buy it.
33:38
It's real. No, I don't think it's true. I would
33:41
believe Stargate is more real than V. I don't
33:45
think V could be real. I've never seen V. I want
33:48
to see it. I don't know where I could find it,
33:50
though. Unfortunately, it's really hard to find
33:53
on streaming. I had to buy copies on DVD.
33:57
That's unfortunate. There's a lot of shit that's
34:00
not available on streaming. You should be a real
34:02
friend and burn it for me and send me a copy.
34:05
We'll talk about that. I do have a friend. I
34:07
can do that. Of course, I'm live on stream.
34:10
But I never violate any intellectual property
34:13
laws in the United States. Never. We would never
34:17
do that. Actually, though, I'm pretty good. I'm
34:20
relatively good about that compared to most people.
34:22
All right. Let's talk about... I'm going to look
34:24
up the Grusch thing just for the audience member.
34:25
I'm going to look it up. All right. Tennessee,
34:28
this poor lady. Not something you normally say
34:32
about a murderer. But Christa Pike, when she was
34:37
18 years old, she and two people, including her
34:42
boyfriend at the time, murdered basically for
34:45
fun because she was fucked up. She was mentally
34:48
ill. She was on drugs. And they lured one of
34:53
their acquaintances out, who she thought was trying
34:57
to steal her boyfriend, out into the woods and
35:00
murdered her. The boyfriend carved a pentagram
35:04
into the body of the murder victim to try to
35:08
make it look like it was a devil-worship
35:10
thing. It fed into the whole Satan-worship hysteria
35:14
of the '80s and '90s. And anyway, there she's been
35:18
for 30 years. She was convicted. This happened
35:20
in the '90s. Finally, after years of appeals
35:25
expired, they get ready to kill her yesterday
35:29
morning. And then at the last... Well, I guess
35:33
she's now about 47-ish. Oh, so she was very young
35:38
when they caught her. She was 18. And by most,
35:41
according to most legal experts, she would
35:44
not have been sentenced to death today under
35:46
similar circumstances. The thing is,
35:51
they went after her because the two other people
35:53
involved, including the boyfriend, were under
35:55
18. So only she was subject to the death penalty.
35:58
So they nailed her. And basically, she paid
36:02
the highest price. And by all accounts, she has
36:07
greatly reformed. She's much better. But she
36:10
did get into an incident where she physically
36:13
assaulted another inmate behind bars. So she's
36:17
spicy. Right. But the point is, by all accounts,
36:20
she's not the same person. But who is between
36:22
their teens and their 40s? And she, anyway, after
36:27
the appeals, a federal court said, listen,
36:32
according to us, it looks like she probably would
36:35
not have been sentenced to death if the same
36:38
law, if the same thing happened today,
36:41
given her age, her history of sexual and other
36:45
abuse by her parents and so on. Probably she
36:48
would have gotten life in prison or something
36:50
else, right? But then the state of Tennessee,
36:54
in a hurry to kill her, appealed to SCOTUS. The Supreme
36:58
Court said, go ahead, kill her. So she was first
37:02
told, oh, you're not going to be killed. Then
37:04
seven hours later, yeah, you are going to be
37:06
killed. They take her in to give her lethal injection.
37:09
They inject her once. It doesn't work. They try
37:14
twice. Still doesn't work. At one point she's
37:17
snoring. She's shouting. She's screaming.
37:20
Then later she was snoring, and she woke
37:24
back up. It was apparently a horror show.
37:26
So they took her to the hospital, where she was.
37:29
Now they're trying to save her life, presumably
37:32
so they can kill her later. Okay, she's
37:36
a one-person argument against the death
37:40
penalty, right? Literally, if only Christa
37:43
Pike had ever lived, I'd be like, the death penalty
37:45
sucks. And it's so fucking
37:50
ridiculous. And also, where the fuck is the
37:53
governor of the state of Tennessee in all of
37:56
this? All he has to do is pick up a phone and
37:58
he can put a stop to all this fucking horror
38:00
show. And he still hasn't done that. Right.
38:04
Even in ancient Rome, at times they
38:07
had a rule where if the state
38:09
took their stab at you and tried to whack off
38:11
your head and it didn't come off, they let you
38:14
go, because it's like, hey,
38:16
the gods want you to live. This
38:21
is just outlandish. And honestly, if the state of Tennessee and the governor
38:27
had any fucking common decency, they would say,
38:29
look, we obviously don't. How hard
38:32
is it to kill people? Can't they bring
38:36
in an Israeli? Seriously. Just invest
38:38
in a guillotine. I don't understand why we make
38:40
this stuff so difficult. Because they don't want to.
38:43
She requested the firing squad. Well, I will
38:46
tell you why they make it difficult. Because
38:48
they don't. They're trying to sanitize murder.
38:49
That's right. That's what they're trying to do.
38:53
It's kind of like when you buy your beef. If
38:55
you had to watch what they did to the cow, everyone
38:57
would be a vegan. Everyone. You'd be like, oh,
38:59
this is... When I was in Afghanistan,
39:02
I was talking to a cameraman from a major network,
39:05
and we were filming this scene of absolute horror
39:09
as the U.S. was bombing this neighborhood. And
39:11
he kept putting the—they were Betamax tapes
39:14
at the time—into a bag, a duffel. And I said,
39:17
are you going to upload those? And he's like,
39:21
oh, no, these are just for my personal, for me.
39:23
I said, what do you mean? This is amazing footage.
39:26
And he's like, no, no, no. If the American people
39:29
saw what we do in our wars, they would all be
39:31
pacifists. That's not allowed at the network.
39:34
Right. Exactly. We sanitize murder. That's what
39:37
we do. And so we keep trying to find ways. It's
39:41
like, okay, how can we make murder in a way that
39:44
the public is not going to feel some kind of
39:46
way about the fact that it's murder? It's okay
39:48
with a shot. If they're screaming inside, just
39:51
don't be screaming out loud. Exactly. As Robby
39:53
pointed out, the guillotine is very straightforward.
39:56
Well, she requested a firing squad. That usually
39:58
works. You can get three psychopaths and put them
40:01
up and say, hey, shoot that person. There's got
40:05
to be some IDF guys who'd be willing to do this.
40:08
There's plenty of Americans who are willing to
40:10
do it. Let's be honest, right? Yeah.
40:12
There are better ways to murder people. There just are.
40:18
But instead, what they want to do is, okay, we'll
40:21
give them a formula, and it'll put them to sleep,
40:24
and then it'll stop their heart. And this will
40:27
be sanitized murder, and everybody will be good
40:29
with this because the person just went to sleep.
40:31
Sleepy time, bye-bye. She didn't go to sleep.
40:33
She didn't know. And by the way, this is the
40:38
second time that the state of Tennessee alone
40:39
has had a botched murder this year alone. It
40:41
doesn't have to do with the fact that the company
40:44
that was making the chemicals for it stopped
40:47
giving them the chemicals for it. Yeah, that's
40:48
a big part of it, right? Yeah. And so they kind
40:50
of came up with their own mix of chemicals in
40:52
order to kill people. So we don't have chemists?
40:53
Apparently not. Has America fallen so
40:58
far? Forget about building bridges. Forget
41:02
about building roads, high-speed rail, maybe
41:05
having planes whose doors don't fall off midair.
41:08
That's complicated. But you can't come
41:10
up with a way of taking somebody out. Put
41:13
her in a garage, turn a car on, and leave. There
41:15
are ways you can do that. The
41:18
emir of Bukhara in modern-day Uzbekistan would
41:20
take people up to the top of a minaret and throw
41:24
them off. Yeah. There you go. You can do that.
41:26
Yeah. Stop sanitizing the murder. That's
41:30
all. It's just that. Robby, what do
41:33
you think should happen to this lady, given the
41:36
system that we actually have? They tried
41:39
to kill her multiple times. You have to let her
41:41
go. That's what I think. I don't
41:42
think... You fucking had your whack at the piñata.
41:46
Enough. You had the whack at it twice.
41:49
Not to mention, you tortured the shit out of
41:51
her with all these off-and-on delays
41:53
and, not to mention, the seven
41:56
hours between the, oh, you're going to die this
42:00
morning. Oh, no, wait. You're saved by the bell.
42:02
Well, but that's a call to murder. Let's
42:05
be honest. She did kill somebody. And she did
42:07
kill somebody. And I don't buy this shit about
42:09
her being mentally ill and all that other stuff.
42:10
They took somebody out and they murdered that
42:13
person. That person doesn't exist. I'm not saying
42:15
she shouldn't be facing consequences. All I'm
42:19
saying is that under the system in the state
42:23
of Tennessee as it currently exists—and this
42:26
drives me crazy. This is sort of like the people
42:29
who are in prison for crimes that no longer exist.
42:30
For example, who sold quantities of marijuana,
42:33
who are still in prison, that today if they sold
42:36
those quantities of marijuana, they'd have a
42:38
storefront. Okay. And they might be able to
42:40
go, they might have an IPO on the New York Stock
42:43
Exchange. Yeah, so that. It's absolutely
42:45
ridiculous. She would not be sentenced to
42:49
death now based on that alone. Basically,
42:52
whenever the law changes to a more liberal sentence,
42:56
you should be. It's sort of like when you're
42:59
shopping for airline tickets and you buy an airplane.
43:02
You pay $400 for a ticket, and then they
43:05
drop the price to $300. You can call the
43:07
airline and say, hey, listen, that same ticket's
43:10
$300. I want it for $300. And usually they'll give
43:12
it to you. That's how it should be. You
43:15
got death. Now it would be
43:17
life. Okay, I want life.
43:19
That's what I would get now. I shouldn't be held
43:22
to this old standard. Well, after them trying
43:24
to murder her multiple times. Yeah, I agree with
43:27
you. It looks... And by the way, her
43:29
brain might be a puddle of mush
43:31
now, right? But it looks so absurd that they're
43:34
trying to save her life in order to kill her
43:37
later. It's insane. It looks dumb as all hell.
43:39
It's dumb. Yeah. To answer your question, I would
43:43
come down on this. Three things are
43:46
true at one time. In the case of this woman,
43:50
I would live up to the family whose daughter
43:53
that they murdered, that she killed. They want
43:54
her dead. Then she goes away. But that's not
43:57
our system. Well, our system is clearly broken,
44:02
and we can't even execute somebody. So something
44:06
needs to happen here. Now, if we are going to
44:08
have a death penalty. I don't believe in that, man.
44:13
You don't have to. That's my opinion. I'm just
44:17
telling you. If we're going to have a
44:20
death penalty in this country, which I believe
44:23
we should have, then we need to have a humane
44:25
way of doing it. I would recommend the guillotine.
44:29
It's time-proven. The French got something right.
44:33
The croissants, coffee, and beheadings. Go with
44:36
what works. It never failed once, as far as I
44:40
know. Never once. And lastly, the prison system
44:42
is in desperate need of reform. It needs to be
44:45
abolished, blown up, and have a reboot. All
44:48
these people who are in jail right now
44:52
for drug offenses, why?
44:54
I don't understand it. No.
44:59
To your point, Ted, all this stuff has been legalized.
45:01
This is all a profit margin. It's
45:03
not about justice. It's not even about legality.
45:07
It's about funding a prison complex
45:12
that makes this money off of people, keeping people
45:14
in cages for as long as they possibly can for
45:17
a dollar. That is disgusting. If you're a rapist,
45:22
if you're a murderer, you don't get to, in Robby's
45:26
world, you don't get to sit on death row for
45:28
30 years or 40 years or until you're old and
45:31
gray. Well, if you're going to have a death penalty,
45:33
it really sort of doesn't serve any purpose.
45:36
But you have to be efficient, otherwise there's
45:37
no deterrent. And look, there's
45:40
no deterrent anyway. Studies have shown that,
45:41
right? If you're in a state of mind where
45:44
you want to kill someone, let's just say you're
45:46
cold-blooded, you're an
45:48
assassin, you just do it for money. Or let's
45:50
just say you've decided that you're
45:52
so smart you're going to get away with it. They're
45:53
not going to catch you. Or if you're in a
45:57
rage and it's a case of domestic violence
45:59
and you're going to assault, you're going
46:01
to murder your partner. You're so pissed
46:04
off and crazed at that point, you're not thinking,
46:07
oh, but I could end up executed. That would
46:11
really be bad. I will not do that. That's just
46:14
not... People just don't think that way. Yeah.
46:17
But is execution just an excuse? Well,
46:22
it's supposed to be an example. There's
46:25
a reason why after Spartacus's rebellion, when
46:29
the Romans crucified his army on the Appian Way
46:32
between Capua and Rome, there were no more slave
46:35
revolts for 600 years. That freaking works. If
46:39
you're going to do this, you make an example.
46:43
Ted, you go full Afghan style. If you do this,
46:47
if you get away with it, fine, but if you don't,
46:49
if we catch you, this is what's going to happen
46:52
to you. Let me just say, man, I didn't
46:54
do a scientific study of all Afghans, but I will
46:57
just say, Afghans prove that there's
47:00
no deterrent. I met a guy. He confided
47:04
to me, he's like, oh, I'm going to be back
47:05
in two hours. I'm like, where are you going?
47:07
He's like, oh, I'm going to go fuck this girl.
47:08
I'm like, what? And he's like, oh, she's the
47:10
commander. She's the wife of a Taliban commander.
47:14
I'm like, man. You're taking some serious
47:18
chances there. You will be
47:21
stoned to death if you're caught, if you're lucky,
47:23
right? And if you're not, flayed first.
47:27
And he's like, yeah, but she sure is hot. Well, Islam
47:34
is like Christian... Well, Islam
47:37
is like Christian law in that
47:38
case. There's a difference between fornication
47:40
and adultery. If you're caught in fornication,
47:42
you marry the girl and it is what it is. Adultery
47:45
is when you sleep with another man's wife. If
47:48
she's married, you have a point. If she was single,
47:51
not so much. That's a human thing. That's just
47:53
people. Look, I will tell you, in my experience,
47:56
even in Muslim countries, people were just people.
48:00
Some religions can overlay onto those people, but
48:03
they just behave like people. I get it.
48:07
People have urges, and the urge to
48:10
murder someone is usually born out of extreme
48:13
emotions. And people are not thinking rationally
48:15
by definition when they're in a highly emotional
48:18
state. Right. We've got two more subjects
48:20
to talk about. The prison system is that crucifixion.
48:23
The prison system is supposed to be that
48:25
tool of, hey, do you want to get anally raped
48:29
as a man? Not really. All right. Then you don't
48:32
want to go to prison. Don't commit crimes. It's
48:34
that. And yeah, that's completely
48:36
corrupted. It's not about punishment.
48:38
It's not about sending a message. It's
48:41
not about keeping the population safe. It is about
48:44
enriching a certain class of people with the modern-
48:47
day slave trade in the most barbaric way possible,
48:49
by putting people in cages, treating them
48:53
like animals, and then you wonder why they act
48:54
like animals. It's also entrapment, right?
48:58
Anybody who's ever even had any interaction
49:00
with the criminal justice system, or let's
49:03
say being audited by the government or something.
49:05
Once they catch
49:09
you, it's so hard to get out, right? Even if
49:13
you're innocent, even if you can prove you're
49:16
innocent. You're guilty until
49:19
proven innocent, despite what the law says. Anyway,
49:21
Skynet. So Pete Hegseth, who said that there's
49:27
going to be... He's repeated, there's no fatties,
49:30
no beardos, no weirdos, no wokes. And he's going to
49:35
be, in his extremely heterosexual, totally
49:39
straight, one million percent not gay or trans
49:42
military, creating, as he said, with
49:46
a dollop of extra testosterone, creating
49:50
a new autonomous warfare command to oversee,
49:54
obviously, autonomous warfare. Autonomous warfare
49:57
are weapons, specifically drones, that choose
50:01
their own targets. So this is the Black Mirror
50:05
scenario. It's the Terminator, Skynet scenario.
50:10
Terrifying. Yeah. It's like we don't want human
50:15
beings making the choice to murder, so we're
50:17
going to turn it over to robots in order to do
50:19
it for us. Keep in mind, they were making
50:22
the argument that the kids that they murdered,
50:24
the hundred and something at that school, was
50:27
an AI thing, to put it in perspective. They're
50:31
blaming AI for it. Was that what... AI did
50:33
it. Yeah, it was choosing the targets. Yeah, maybe.
50:36
Old maps is much more likely. Did you all
50:40
see this announcement about creating the Department
50:43
of Religious Affairs during the same announcement?
50:46
I thought about it as a Christian. That is chilling.
50:49
I've got it if you want to see it. As a Christian,
50:52
it pisses me off to no end. What? That's not
50:56
what you want? No, because Christianity is not
51:00
a passive religion, but also teaches there are
51:05
rules of warfare. You're not allowed to just
51:08
go out and just wipe people out because they're
51:10
in the way. Oh, so the concern isn't separation
51:11
of church and state. It's the conflation of the
51:14
U.S. military with religion. Correct. What they're
51:17
doing is that they're wrapping their imperialism
51:19
with the symbolism of... Basically, they're doing
51:21
the same thing the Islamists do, is what they're
51:23
trying to say. With Christian soldiers, right?
51:25
Yeah. But that's because... It's a buckle that
51:27
all Nazi soldiers wore around the swastika. In
51:30
German it said, God is with us. Well, you've
51:32
got to remember... Hilariously, in a secular regime.
51:36
And Paul was talking about all Christian soldiers.
51:39
That's about spiritual warfare, fighting the
51:41
spiritual fight, putting on the armor of God.
51:43
It doesn't mean that you go and invade another
51:46
country. That's the whole reason why God punished
51:49
David the way that he did, by sending that angel
51:51
of death down. You don't start wars of aggression.
51:54
If someone attacks you, you take their head off.
51:57
But there's a difference between offensive and
52:00
defensive war. Do you want to see it? We don't
52:04
really fight defensive wars. We don't have time,
52:07
I think. We have seven minutes. That's one of
52:11
the advantages of the two-hour show. Speaking
52:13
of which, thanks for joining us if you came in
52:15
a little bit late into the show. We do Monday,
52:19
Wednesday, Friday as the two-hour show. Tuesday,
52:21
Thursday is the one-hour show. Everything starts
52:22
at 9 a.m. So tomorrow we're back to two hours. But
52:25
just to... I don't know how we're going to do this.
52:28
Robby, can you explain this? We said we're going to
52:30
do the last hour tomorrow, the 10 o'clock hour,
52:34
as exclusive content for the subscribers. So are
52:38
we just going to drop the feed and start a
52:41
new feed? Or what are we going to do? I don't
52:44
see any other way you can do it. Because look,
52:46
with Rumble Studio, you could go live on Rumble,
52:48
but then that ends the YouTube feed, and that
52:50
doesn't work. So that's what I have to do. Just
52:53
end the show, start a new one as members only,
52:56
and then the members can come in and they can
52:57
call in and talk to you and JT. On Rumble, could
53:00
we just drop the YouTube on the Rumble Studio?
53:04
Could we just drop the YouTube feed at 10 o'clock?
53:07
Yeah, but the point of it is for the top-tier
53:11
YouTube subscribers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that
53:14
wouldn't work. So that would not work, yeah.
53:16
And you can't do Rumble without Rumble. Right.
53:19
Right. Hilariously. Okay, all right. Thanks,
53:21
Robby. We'll figure it out. Yeah, I guess we'll
53:23
do a separate feed. Oh, I know. We can raid into
53:26
it, too. Well, the best way would be to end the
53:30
one-hour show, then start a new show using StreamYard.
53:32
People call in. Just provide the link. Let's
53:35
keep it simple. Let's not be Tennessee here. We'll
53:38
do that. Let's use a guillotine and just
53:40
get it done. It's so hilarious.
53:42
People spend billions of dollars
53:45
trying to stay alive, right? But then,
53:48
when people are desperately
53:50
ill and they need to go to,
53:53
get on a plane and go to Europe to have themselves
53:54
killed, or maybe you go to the state of Tennessee
53:57
and they can't even kill you. It's so weird. Canada
54:01
has booths that people can get into, like euthanasia
54:04
stuff. How does Canada do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
54:07
Well, yeah, they should outsource that to Tennessee.
54:11
Yeah. Well, once we invade Canada, we'll steal
54:15
that technology, just the way that we stole Venezuela's
54:18
gold. Okay, so Chloe Renee Freeman. When you're
54:23
a criminal or alleged criminal, you always get
54:25
your middle name mentioned. If I did anything
54:27
wrong, I would become Frederick Theodore Rall,
54:30
maybe Frederick Theodore Rall III. Anyway, Chloe
54:33
Freeman. She's a 33-year-old nurse in the state
54:36
of Michigan. There was an ICE detainee, a dude
54:41
who was brought in. Basically, he was in a scuffle
54:45
with ICE. ICE claimed that they noticed that
54:48
he had injuries, so they brought him to the hospital.
54:50
And she decided to basically show him out the
54:54
back entrance and said, fly free, little bird.
54:58
The FBI is charging her. It's a misdemeanor
55:04
federal offense. I looked this up. She faces
55:07
up to one year in prison and up to a fine of
55:11
$100,000. I say good for her, too. I
55:14
think it's, to me, regardless of where you
55:18
stand on immigration or mass deportations, it's
55:22
nice to see that there are Americans who are
55:26
willing to put their own bodies on the line and
55:29
to take risks to help fellow human beings,
55:32
even if it means that they might face some really
55:37
harsh consequences as a result. I'm
55:40
sure someone will put a GoFundMe together for
55:42
her. I doubt she'll get a year in prison.
55:46
I wouldn't be surprised if the charges got dropped
55:48
at some point. But anyway,
55:52
the point is, this reminds me of the case of, wasn't
55:54
it also in Michigan, or was it Minnesota, the judge
55:57
who also let an ICE detainee out of the courtroom
56:01
through the back door, and then she was like that.
56:03
Yeah, right. And he went after the judge for it,
56:06
but I don't know what happened to the judge as
56:08
a result. Here you have basically
56:10
the judge was appalled that ICE was operating
56:13
inside the courthouse and desecrating the place,
56:16
the halls of justice. Here, the nurse.
56:20
She's in a helper profession, the ultimate
56:22
helper profession. And here's a
56:24
guy who... So it's hilarious. The FBI complained
56:28
that he didn't get all of his treatment,
56:32
and that she imperiled him by letting him
56:34
go free. I'm sure he wasn't complaining. Really?
56:37
Yeah, I'm sure he was like, I can stop by
56:40
CVS. I'm pretty sure she didn't force him. Right.
56:43
She didn't force him out the door, right? It's
56:46
not like, you must leave this
56:49
hospital. It wasn't that. No, this is resistance.
56:52
Get out of here. This is resistance. This is
56:55
what resistance looks like. And
56:57
we need more of it so that we know
57:00
what it looks like. Unfortunately, institutions,
57:02
like some of the colleges and stuff
57:04
like that, need to be more aggressive, like this
57:05
nurse. She took all the risk. These institutions,
57:12
with all the money and everything else,
57:14
they were less willing to do so. So what federal
57:17
laws do I get to ignore? I don't know. Making
57:21
a choice between you and God, right? Yeah,
57:25
pick the ones you want. Well, I could have sworn
57:27
that we lived in a republic where Congress passed
57:30
a law, signed by the president. We suppose our nation
57:33
of laws, not people. So for us to pick and choose
57:35
all the laws we're going to enforce. Well, someone
57:37
should tell us, because he picks and chooses the
57:39
laws he wants to follow. Yeah. But many
57:43
in Congress pick and choose the ones they want
57:44
to follow. They've been enriching themselves massively
57:46
at the tip of the U.S. government. But individual
57:50
Americans that have potentially religious beliefs
57:52
of fairness and equality, and that they don't
57:56
necessarily believe that ICE, and they allow their
57:59
moral beliefs to take over, God bless her.
58:02
At one point slavery was legal, and you had people
58:04
who were abolitionists who went and pushed against
58:06
what they considered to be an evil, which was
58:09
evil. And you go down the list of laws over
58:12
the history. History views them very kindly. Yeah,
58:15
unless you're A.P. Hill. You know who that is, don't
58:18
you? I have no idea. So history picks and chooses.
58:23
A.P. Hill was a Confederate general who was
58:24
an abolitionist who hated slavery. But people
58:28
don't remember his name. I guess that's the point
58:31
I'm trying to make is what she did. I know I
58:34
have to go here in just a second. It's a form
58:38
of vigilantism. You decide that the law does
58:40
not apply to me, that the law does not apply
58:43
to this person. This person has a higher value
58:46
than the collective. And so I, using my own authority
58:50
that I do not have, am going to violate the law.
58:52
It's civil disobedience, man. We don't live in
58:54
a fascist state. It's civil disobedience.
58:56
North Korea. We've had disobedience and
59:01
gentrification going on. And she is going to
59:03
take her... She is going to. Look, there's a law.
59:06
She's been charged. If a judge and/or a jury
59:10
decides that she needs to go to prison for a
59:13
year, she will. I don't know where you
59:15
get it. It's kind of like
59:17
she took personal responsibility. Anyway, thanks
59:21
for joining us. We have a plan for tomorrow,
59:22
basically. It's a one-hour show for the regular
59:24
show tomorrow because it's Friday, and it's the
59:27
last Friday. Basically, we're bleeding in from
59:30
the month of September, and we're going to go,
59:33
according to Trent. We are going to film it and
59:36
upload it later, the second hour. So we'll see
59:39
you live tomorrow, 9 o'clock Eastern time to
59:41
10 o'clock Eastern time, and stay tuned for
59:45
TMI. That is coming up right now. And see you
59:50
later. Bye, Jamarl. Bye-bye, guys. Bye-bye.