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Nats snap losing 7 game losing streak, James Wood to IL, and Littell DFA'd · District Territory

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome back to the District Territory podcast.
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  Speaker 2: The losing streak is over.
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  Speaker 1: The Nats got off the SNYDE last night. I'm Mark
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  Speaker 1: Shellhouse from bat Boys Baseball, Joey Today, Kevin Franz into
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  Speaker 1: the Washington Nationals, and Spencer Nusbaum of the Athletic. Took
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  Speaker 1: eleven innings last night. Wasn't pretty throughout the entire process,
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  Speaker 1: but the Nats broke out in the top of the
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  Speaker 1: eleventh and as a result, the Nets had to bring
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  Speaker 1: a pitcher in to hit. Spencer, you got one of
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  Speaker 1: your mid season predictions correct, Guys, walk me through watching
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  Speaker 1: a pitcher hit, which we don't see very often in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Spencer, how exciting was it to nail
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  Speaker 1: one of your predictions this early into the second half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: That might be the only one I ended up getting
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  Speaker 4: right on there, and it was one that I did
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  Speaker 4: not have any sort of actual confidence in, but it's cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I just was looking this up.
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  Speaker 4: Because we had a little short thing go up on
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  Speaker 4: on it for the Athletic, and yeah, it was the
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  Speaker 4: most impactful. If you're going my win probability played appearance
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  Speaker 4: from a pitcher since they instituted the universal DH And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: just the vibe in that club has after the fact,
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  Speaker 4: both from snapping the streak and also just from having
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  Speaker 4: miles of all people up there in that in that
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  Speaker 4: spot was a Yeah, it was really cool to see Franny.
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  Speaker 1: You're around the team every single day, he's he's out
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  Speaker 1: there on the field like he has been ready every
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  Speaker 1: day this season. Can you attest to all what to
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  Speaker 1: swing the bat? You see him swinging the fun go
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  Speaker 1: out there, don't you? I mean he he's out there
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  Speaker 1: ready to ste We're.
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  Speaker 5: Talking of funo what are we doing? No, he's not
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  Speaker 5: ready to swing a bat. That's the beauty of the
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  Speaker 5: whole thing. Last night is like, yeah, I can show you,
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  Speaker 5: I can show you old guys could play.
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  Speaker 2: He's just a good old ballplayer, get things done. Did
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  Speaker 2: it a perfect I would say that he actually bunch
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  Speaker 2: better than some of the guys that are that bunch better.
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  Speaker 2: You know, bunt every day.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, just based on ain't bad angle, staying in there,
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  Speaker 5: just getting it down.
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  Speaker 2: He was. It was. It was funny.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he told back to when he needed to.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Hell, yeah, he knows what a bunch strikes you
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  Speaker 5: know he's not gonna chase on a on a on
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  Speaker 5: a bun attempt.
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  Speaker 2: That's what that's that's big, that's swing decisions. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: exciting to watch.
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  Speaker 1: It helped add to a big top of the eleven,
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  Speaker 1: help Nats get a big win and one that they
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  Speaker 1: desperately needed. Let's let's get to some of the bigger
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  Speaker 1: storylines and issues, not issues, but issues with the Nats
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  Speaker 1: lineups that may may start arising James Wood to the
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  Speaker 1: ten day injured list.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The biggest overlooming question here, I think, guys, is is
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  Speaker 1: who do the Nationals start to turn to to lead
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  Speaker 1: off last night? We saw CJ in that role the
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  Speaker 1: day before. If it's stilling, I think, yeah, I like
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  Speaker 1: to see CJ in that position. But Spencer, I'm curious,
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  Speaker 1: is that something you think Blake Putera is is going
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  Speaker 1: to be messing around with a lot while James is
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  Speaker 1: on the I l here, or is he going to
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  Speaker 1: look towards someone to to slot into that role being CJ.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know about messing around with it. I
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  Speaker 4: do think against lefties that it's at least a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of a curiosity right where he used Dylan in
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  Speaker 4: that spot the other day, and vision he would use
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  Speaker 4: Dylan again against the lefty. That's the only place where
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  Speaker 4: I don't have any sort of certainty. But yeah, against
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  Speaker 4: any sort of right handed pitcher, we should see CJ
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  Speaker 4: up top. And I think, you know, if James would
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  Speaker 4: didn't exist, we would have seen CJ lead off. However,
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  Speaker 4: in one hundred and eight games or whatever it's been
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  Speaker 4: this year. So yeah, that's kind of the slam dunk cancer.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, two hundred and ninety five times that he's let
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  Speaker 5: off in his career. That's that's the part that's huge, right,
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  Speaker 5: is having a guy that could do that go out
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  Speaker 5: there and and and be exactly who who you want
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  Speaker 5: the most dangerous hit are on your team.
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  Speaker 2: Blake talked about it before the game.
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  Speaker 5: You want, you know, your best players to get the
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  Speaker 5: most of bats. I mean that's generally how you want
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  Speaker 5: to and general you know, in today's game, and that's
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  Speaker 5: why James was leading off. And so I don't see
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  Speaker 5: anybody else in the same atmosphere as or stratosphere as CJ.
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  Speaker 2: So it's his and.
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  Speaker 5: I mean maybe not tonight, you know, against Christopher Sanchez.
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  Speaker 5: It was last time they faced them. They did a
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  Speaker 5: good job. But CJ sat out that game, so that
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  Speaker 5: was good. That was a good day off for him.
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  Speaker 5: Uh So we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Spencer mentioned there just a moment ago on Tuesday night,
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Cruz was the one leading off and so against
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  Speaker 1: the left handed pitcher. I do think it is a
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  Speaker 1: little more interesting of a conversation. As you mentioned Franny,
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  Speaker 1: he's got the experience. I want to see a guy
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  Speaker 1: that it's comfortable doing that. And also, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: I think most important is when you get to the
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  Speaker 1: eighth ninth inning that that might be an additional at
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  Speaker 1: that that people are not the average fan is not
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  Speaker 1: maybe thinking about as much earlier before the game.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're gonna come up a little bit more.
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  Speaker 5: I think when it comes to eighth to ninth any where,
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  Speaker 5: it matters even more. You know, I don't see the
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  Speaker 5: offense clicking as as it did the first few months,
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  Speaker 5: because look, there's it's a whole different look until they
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  Speaker 5: get clicking together. You know that eighth and ninth theny
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  Speaker 5: you look at as the important ones now, right, Like
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  Speaker 5: I mean early on obviously, but later you've got to
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  Speaker 5: have your guys up there. You got to find a
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  Speaker 5: way to get them up there, and you know, by
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  Speaker 5: hap a chance it was you know James so often
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  Speaker 5: this year that was getting that extra ab and it's exactly.
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  Speaker 2: What you are.
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  Speaker 6: Ye.
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  Speaker 1: One more thing I want to bring on here too,
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  Speaker 1: is this has been another lengthy stretch of days without
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  Speaker 1: the Nationals getting an off day here, and I much
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  Speaker 1: needed one coming up here soon. Franny, how much does
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  Speaker 1: that wear and tear on a player here as we
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  Speaker 1: turn the calendar over to August, getting to the dog
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  Speaker 1: days this summer, how much of the fatigue we've been
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  Speaker 1: seeing from the lack of ronners and hitting with runners
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  Speaker 1: and scoring position. We'll get into that later on, but
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  Speaker 1: how much of that do you think has to do
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  Speaker 1: with the fact that it's August and that it might
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  Speaker 1: be wearing tear on guys, not wearing tear on guys,
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  Speaker 1: but just the grind of a season.
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  Speaker 5: There is a scoring position that the thing is just
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  Speaker 5: more it's not being tired, it's being.
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  Speaker 2: Not executing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you could talk about like, you know, your
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  Speaker 5: mind's tired, all this tire, but like that's an excuse.
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  Speaker 5: You compete at the highest level. You got to do
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  Speaker 5: it all the time. And that's the truth. It's not
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  Speaker 5: a cliche. And these guys are way better equipped. And
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  Speaker 5: I think back, I would even say five to ten
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  Speaker 5: years ago, for playing through these moments doesn't feel as
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  Speaker 5: drastic as it used to feel like because you didn't
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  Speaker 5: have as many days off. You got more days off
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  Speaker 5: now in the league. Travel is obviously not great. We're
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  Speaker 5: never gonna sit there and do that. But they're more
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  Speaker 5: in tune with their body, like the staffs. They're not
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  Speaker 5: holding it against them, So I think that's a big
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  Speaker 5: part of it. Yeah, this these stretches suck. You don't
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  Speaker 5: see two you don't see back to back stretches of
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  Speaker 5: inter division games, especially against Atlanta and Philly, right like,
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  Speaker 5: back to back in two hostile environments. That that's the
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  Speaker 5: more wear and tear, because that's that's the stress, right,
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  Speaker 5: That's not that's not playing in August. That's the stress
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  Speaker 5: of playing in great environments, in in front of Rocus
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  Speaker 5: crowds and crowds that that that need to be, you know,
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  Speaker 5: an everyday thing to feel, and they're not used to it, right, And.
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  Speaker 4: We've kind of talked about this season right where they've
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  Speaker 4: hit almost every kind of resilience and there's always some
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  Speaker 4: hurdle that whatever they haven't seen yet, but to have
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  Speaker 4: that eight game stretch in Philly in Atlanta, and I
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  Speaker 4: do think, I mean the players have said it. Blake
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  Speaker 4: has said it like the deadline is on their minds.
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  Speaker 4: It was on their minds, like all that stuff is
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  Speaker 4: wrapped together. And for Anny, maybe you disagree, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that's an interesting point to maybe discuss, But I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's nothing. And so when you put all
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  Speaker 4: those things together, I'm not drying a one to one
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  Speaker 4: correlation between that is why they're not hitting with runners
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  Speaker 4: in scoring position. But I think it's a hurdle that
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  Speaker 4: a lot of these guys either haven't had for or
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  Speaker 4: having for maybe the second or third time, first time
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  Speaker 4: where the team is relatively competitive as they sell off.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I I I've said it. The the deadline
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  Speaker 5: is what they've created. Right, This was not supposed to happen,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they they weren't expected to do this. And
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  Speaker 5: that's the part that you got to love and embrace
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  Speaker 5: is that you know, yeah, there was some stress there,
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  Speaker 5: but it shouldn't have been for everybody. It was for
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  Speaker 5: a couple guys and that and that's the part that
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  Speaker 5: that like bugs me is because we talk about like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's a trade headline and and you know,
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  Speaker 5: Blake had talked about that, but that bugged me a
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  Speaker 5: little bit because I'm like, look that that happens every
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  Speaker 5: year and it's not everybody's on on on the trade front.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it should not affect everybody.
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  Speaker 5: You got to keep playing through it because you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: get they have put themselves in the spot. They have
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  Speaker 5: put themselves in the spot to add or subtract or
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  Speaker 5: in either way by Selle mode whatever it was, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because they played so great for so many months, and
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  Speaker 5: it's just it just seemed like it was a crutch
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  Speaker 5: right for them to go and use that as a
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  Speaker 5: stress Why is it stressful? You know, at the end
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  Speaker 5: of the day, why is it stressful? This is this
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  Speaker 5: is baseball. This is the inexperience though of the team,
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  Speaker 5: and that that is the part. And and you'll see
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  Speaker 5: it with guys as they move forward. You're like, oh man,
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  Speaker 5: why did we you know, panic or or have these moments.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a human thing. I get it.
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  Speaker 5: But if you've been around long enough, you go to
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  Speaker 5: a trade headline, it's not ten guys on the on
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  Speaker 5: the trademark on you know, being talked about, it's it's
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  Speaker 5: usually a handful, if not that, maybe three, And in
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  Speaker 5: case for for the Nats, it was three.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's all accurate, and if anything, kind of
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  Speaker 4: reinforces the point here, right that Frannie made about inexperience,
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  Speaker 4: but also reinforces the point that I think it's important
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  Speaker 4: for the team to have gone through something like this
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  Speaker 4: and whatever. Something like this might be a stupid way
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  Speaker 4: to put it, because go through the deadline every year,
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  Speaker 4: but I think it is a lesson for guys like CJ,
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  Speaker 4: for guys like James for I mean, really anyone on
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  Speaker 4: the roster who.
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  Speaker 2: Like this before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, also, they were so close with these these three
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  Speaker 4: guys who left, especially Louis as the longest tenured player,
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  Speaker 4: right Like, I'm not going to act like that's never
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  Speaker 4: going to affect you when someone who is part of
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  Speaker 4: the glue of holding this team together goes away. I
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  Speaker 4: just think in future years when stuff like this happens,
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  Speaker 4: I think they'll be more equipped to go through it
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  Speaker 4: because they went through.
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  Speaker 5: It now, and they went through it with this regime,
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  Speaker 5: as this administration, this this front office, however you want
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  Speaker 5: to say, I hate regime. Regime is a bad, bad
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  Speaker 5: word in the whole thing administration, the front office, because
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  Speaker 5: here's the thing they learned about transparency, Yes, and the
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  Speaker 5: conversation that is being had, and I think you know
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  Speaker 5: now that you've gone through it, they move forward. Paul
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  Speaker 5: Taboni is like he is who he is. Hey, I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to talk to you guys, and guess what he
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  Speaker 5: talks to you guys.
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  Speaker 1: You read that throughout the entire process that that Paul
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  Speaker 1: had been very transparent with guys. That was one thing
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  Speaker 1: that I heard players preaching throughout the process. And you're
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  Speaker 1: I agree with what you said, Franny regime. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like that word either. So let's well, we'll do new administration.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep writing it so too bad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the upcoming schedule, it gets
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  Speaker 1: off the next segment, the DFA of Zach Lttel. It
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: brought in the return of Brad Lord. However, someone asked
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  Speaker 1: you on Twitter last night, Spencer, is he moving to rotation?
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  Speaker 2: No he is not.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the departure of Zach Lateel. To me,
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  Speaker 1: it was tree Ah. But Franny, your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunate.
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  Speaker 5: But you knew at some point something was like something
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  Speaker 5: like this was gonna happen, especially with the way they
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  Speaker 5: went through the trade deadline, right and the youth movement
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  Speaker 5: that has been here all year is going to continue
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  Speaker 5: and it's gonna get more and it's gonna get more
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  Speaker 5: opportunity for guys.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: So you know whether and this is without knowing like
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  Speaker 5: a Jackson Kent gets a chance or Luis Parles it
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  Speaker 5: gets a chance at some point where we see others
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna get They're gonna get opportunities. There's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of innings to have to fill.
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  Speaker 5: And so this is like, this is the part of
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  Speaker 5: the business sucks because you saw a guy that was
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  Speaker 5: a pro. Like whether or not you think the level
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  Speaker 5: of performance was was to what you needed. You saw
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  Speaker 5: a guy that made it a lot easier to do
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  Speaker 5: a lot of things. Number One, the opener guy didn't
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  Speaker 5: bitch about one thing, right Like, he didn't. He didn't
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  Speaker 5: get in there and complain, didn't show it. He could
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  Speaker 5: have complained easily. He had the veteran status and the
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  Speaker 5: whole thing, and instead he was a pro and he
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  Speaker 5: allowed these guys to like we talk about you know,
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  Speaker 5: the trade headline being the first experience for these guys,
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  Speaker 5: for many of them, you know, to go through in
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  Speaker 5: the situation, Well, what about being around veteran, older guys
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  Speaker 5: that had been there, done that, and you know, if
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  Speaker 5: if he responds in a terrible way, that's that's what
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  Speaker 5: you're that's what you're seeing, like, oh my god, like
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  Speaker 5: what is going on? And it could fracture any clubhouse,
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  Speaker 5: any and that was never the case. Exactly how pro
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  Speaker 5: shows how it's supposed to be done. He has some
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  Speaker 5: good runs, right Like, there's a couple couple of moments
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  Speaker 5: that you know, June was awesome for him. I mean
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  Speaker 5: you look at that, I mean you're going, oh my god.
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  Speaker 5: And then July hit and we know, so look at
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  Speaker 5: the end of the day. Uh, it's unfortunate because you
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  Speaker 5: don't like to see any of the guys getting released, designated, whatever,
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  Speaker 5: whatever you want to say it on it's it hurts
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  Speaker 5: because of just like the recent losses in Luis Garcia,
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  Speaker 5: Curtis Meade, and Foster Griffin.
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  Speaker 2: Right like, it's it sucks, but it's a part of
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 5: You got to move on, you know, when when you
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  Speaker 5: have to. But I think that's a bigger loss just
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  Speaker 5: based on the person and who he is and who
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  Speaker 5: he was to the guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have a whole lot to add off
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  Speaker 4: what Franny said. I think like an absolute pro is
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  Speaker 4: probably the best way to put it. I think that
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  Speaker 4: point on Paralys and Kent is obviously where my mind
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  Speaker 4: goes just thinking ahead. Again, it's not a guarantee that
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  Speaker 4: both or either of those guys get called up this year,
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  Speaker 4: but it is looking like a pretty pretty strong likelihood
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  Speaker 4: that at least one will. Again, a lot of that
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  Speaker 4: is contingent on who else is in the roster right
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  Speaker 4: where it's you know, if if Michaels sticks around, if
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  Speaker 4: Irvin keeps pitching well, if if Alvarez keeps pitching well,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: you know, that's a case where you know, those guys
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: in Triple A have forced the issue to a certain extent,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: But I think that they want to be patient and
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: they want those guys to be ready when they come
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: up here. I also would say, candidly, just speaking from
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: you know, talking to people who have watched these guys
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: pitch and who are who have been part of the process,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: they believe that both those guys are good enough where
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: they could be pitching in the big leagues right now.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: It's just a question of are you confident that they
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: can be okay up here or is there some final
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: sort of tweak where it's like, hey, once this guy
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: gets up here, he is ready to go. Is kind
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: of the way that that that's been put to me.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Here, here's a bigger question.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: If they had not played this well to this point
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: and got you know, like you know, get around five
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: hundred for much or most of the season, do they
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: give these guys that chance later on, because you know
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: what I mean, like the way they've played early on,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: they I feel like it's fast tracked.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Wanting to see these guys a little earlier, maybe maybe
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: half a season earlier.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Do you think that's a part of it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: It's I think it's I think that's like, like you said,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that they've been too good for their own good.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: But go ahead, Spencer, I think there's a small element
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: of that there. And I again, I think that's a
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: fair question to raise what I would say. And I
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: kind of asked Blake about this yesterday and he referenced
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: the Rais model right where they are so good in
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: the major leagues, but beyond that, they are so so
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: so ripe with arms in the minor leagues that they
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: never ever unless they really need to rush a guy up.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of the spot where the Nationals are
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: at right where I wouldn't say that either of those
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: guys get rushed up if they're up here, or that
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: they get rushed up because the team is better worse
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: than it needs to be, but that that stuff has
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: a tangible impact.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: And I think.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: For me, what I look at is you need to
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: be calling those guys up to the majors when you
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: know that hundred percent ready, regardless of what what is
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: going on in the big league roster. But I would
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: say a lot of people in baseball don't necessarily think
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: that way. One that's just the way that I kind
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: of processed the game.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: And so for me, I think and think of Peyton Toley,
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: right like with with the Red Sox, very similar, like
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: they okay, hey, they're ready, they're ready. They got to
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: do it, you know, like we got to see him
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: do it, and they did it last year for the
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: Red Sox, and we saw him do it early early
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: on this year or for the most part this this
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: entire season.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Exactly right.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: And I think that the Nationals, while they are not
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: as good as the Red Sox were last year, like that,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: it's it's super easy to draw that parallel here.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: That's that's where my mind went to, right, because Paul
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: had that experience with it last year, and you see
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: these young guys getting that opportunity, and it's like, look
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: that that's the ultimate pressure cooker what they went those
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: two went through. Right Like you're you know, not very
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: many starts to the next thing. You know, Colly early
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: is in the in the postseason, and and is it
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: is it the right way to do it?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Sure, if you're if you're convicted in your entire process
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: with you know, within the organization. But I also like
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I just wonder, like, Okay, so there's so many different
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: views of this, like they're if they were crappy at
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: you know, for the entire year, do they get this shot?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Is one?
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: They are where they are right now, right around five
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: you know, the five hundred mark, never really high above,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: never really far below.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: And then there's that third part, which is what if
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: they had gone off and they ended up having you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: not as many blown saves. Next thing, you know, they
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: have ten more plus wins, right like they're ten fifteen
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: games over five Okay.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: This hypotheticals on the whole thing, like where do we
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: where are we? Like? Where is that rotation? You know
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Like there's I feel like three scenarios and three different
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: rotations you could possibly have with this crew.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well here's here's my follow up.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: And this maybe isn't fair to ask you in particular,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: but let's say that scenario where they are ten games
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: over five hundred, do you have both paralys and kent
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: up here?
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Like do you even have?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: That's the question.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying is like there's there's three different
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: there's three different views on it, and it's like and
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: that's where you draw the Peyton Tolly and call you
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: early from the.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Red Sox kind of parallel. Uh is are they equipped enough?
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, they're equipped enough with stuff, you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: and and Jackson Kent's stuff is ticked up this year.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: We know that. Uh is it elite?
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: No?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Is it beyond serviceable? Yes?
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's it's it's different. So what I'm saying is like,
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: are they equipped internally?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Are they? Are they?
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: You know, you're not throwing them in because to go
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: to Boston and do that that stuff with those two guys,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: you had to the internals had to be there. It
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: could be like these nervous you know, racks that you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: once they get called up, it's gonna be a mess.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: And especially in situations that they were going to be in,
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: right like in the postseason race. And and I so
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: to that point, I don't know enough about Louis Prowls,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: right like I don't know enough about Jackson Kent to
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: say they're equipped enough to make that if they were
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: in that moment, you know, So I.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I just find it. It's weird.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: It's just like, okay, so if they were way below
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: five hundred, let's say they're they're you know, worse than
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: where the Mets are right now, Like would we have
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: seen Jackson, Kent, Louis Parous any other young guy earlier
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: or is this all part of where it's supposed to
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: be for them and there in their thought process?
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: M hm, I lean the ladder, but yeah, I'm gonna
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: keep cheering on that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: Isn't it so funny conversations though, like, yeah, I don't
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: think it's like me, it's Spencer's mind come back early
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: in the off season, like I didn't think they'd do
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: this far along and how awesome it is to be
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: able to have these dialogues that well they they're building
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: right to Yeah, was this season too successful? Is it
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: all part of the process?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Well, that's that's the part trying to understand and and
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: get across to the fan, is that like what what's
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: what's annoying is to read like the ownership doesn't spend
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: this is that this is just terrible they're selling off.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: It's like, oh my gosh, we're so near sighted and
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: don't understand like I get and and very you know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: empathetic to the to the and sympathy sympathetic more or
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: less to the you know, the rebuilding. What it's done
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: to a fan base. This is the first year of
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Paul Tapony, and you're like, oh, we're tired of the rebuild.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: It's like, okay, we get you're tired of the rebuild.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: But there's a lot of tuning that you have to
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: do with this entire you know, process to get it
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: in the right right way. That first couple of months.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: The fact that we got those first couple of months
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: of this year, like it wasn't just one month, it
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: was three four months plus months of great baseball, right,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: really good baseball. Now some gut punchers in there. That's
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: the thing that should be celebrated right now, wait to
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: have those moments like this season has been a win.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry for those that disagree with it. It's been
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: a win to see the process of of what they
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: could do on the pitching side for some, not all,
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: but what they could do on the hitting side for
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: so many, right, and and to see the development part
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: of that, to see James and and CJ have all
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Star seasons up until this point, you know, and it's
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: unfortunate not to have James, But man, what a win
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: like this is a huge win. If you can't see that,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I I can't help you.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I totally agree with that point.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with that point because because there
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: have been so there were so many gut punches, as
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you just mentioned, Franny. There there were some shitty losses
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: earlier in this season that really really stung. And every
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: single time they bounced, they bounced back even better than
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: they played the night before it was or the night
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: before when they had won. I mean, they had an
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: answer every time this season when something hit them head on.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I have equated to dumb and dumber, right, you know
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: the scene where he's eating dinner. Uh, guy comes up
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: and he starts punching them right in the nuts, kicking
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: and all this stuff, and next thing you know.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: It's just boom.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: That's what it felt like for for a lot of them,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: and it's over and over. You just see the punching one.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, that's not what we want, but
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: you go through those those are moments. Those are those
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: are you know, they're terrible for a fan, they're terrible
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: for a broadcaster, terrible covering team, but they are also
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: experiences that we get to experience with this this new group,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: this new front office is see how they have responded.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: And look, we showed it last night Clayton Beeter and
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Brad Lord now being back in in the bullpen. Those
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: only two guys from the opening day roster in that pen. Yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: so they have not they have not just said like, oh,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: well that's what we have and we're just gonna deal
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: with it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: They've continuously tried more and more than we've ever seen
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: here in DC, and I I appreciate that part. And
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: so you know what, at the end of at the
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: end of the day, can they build a pen That's
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: gonna be the big question. These are good questions. Can
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: they build a pen for the future. Well, we've seen
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: them trying to mix a master to try to get
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: that right elixir because it is the most volnable position
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: in the entire game.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take another quick break when we come back,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: finish up with the transactions and talk about this new
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: look bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: As Franny just mentioned.
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• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that this graphic I added last
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: night has every single transaction that we really want to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: talk about, guys. But as Franny mentioned right before the break,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: this is a very different looking bullpen from opening day
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and Spencer I'm curious we sort of I think maybe
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of it last night. Do
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you think Blake petera might approach his his strategy a
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: little differently here as far as is trying to, you know,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: maybe stack or lean upon a guys like that's my closer,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: that'll be my eighth guy, That's someone that I look
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: on to do this specific role, because I think one
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: thing that has has stuck out is there is not
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: other than Clayton Beeter of late, there's not really been
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: many defined roles within the Nationals.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Bulb.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really think that it changes it in
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that direction. If anything, I think the opportunity to bring
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: some real high stuff guys in allows you to maybe
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: mix and match even more in the in the later
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: innings than they were earlier in the season and than
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: they are now. You look at a guy like Eovanni Kruz,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: what did you do yesterday? He threw a pitch one
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: hundred and one miles per hour, which we haven't seen
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: from a National since twenty seventeen, I want to say,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: or at least at that one on one point one cusp,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: and he threw a bunch of nasty sliders. Now, again,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: the results weren't exactly what you wanted, but you envision
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: that as hey on a night where he matches up
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: well against these guys. You put him against these guys
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: as opposed to sticking someone in a specific beginning or
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: you know, well, Dionne, you know, does he look like
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: your prototypical closer. No, But if you have him and
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: his matchups great against lefties, all of a sudden he
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: is going to be facing that pocket of lefties. So
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: if anything, I don't know if this dissuades Blake Moore
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: from having a defined role or something like that, but
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I just think you create a lot more optionality in
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: this bullpen than you had two weeks ago. And you
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: think about all the guys they added, who are going
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: to double A and triple A and outside shot of
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: making it at the end of the year. Like I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: I'm never all that bullish on adding like relief prospects
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: at the deadline, but I think that was exactly what
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: the Nationals needed to do, at least to a certain
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: degree at this deadline. And so that's that's to me,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: is what makes this so compelling.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the point that you brought up about
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: being able to match up a little bit better, like
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: when Nationals TV popped up that lovely graphic of all
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the lefties and righties down there in the new name.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, I feel like there is a little
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: more of an ability for him to mix and match
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: as he pleases. That maybe was not just as readily
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: available because of the high leverage, high leverage, but swing
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and miss stuff that we might start to see down
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: there now.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm still interested.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Like God, we are so so quick to judge on
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: so many guys, like you read about it, Like Evonnie
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Cruz comes in, It's like, come on, get your feet wet,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: and this whole thing, let it, let it be, let it,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: let it, let it have his moment. Uh, not too
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: many times that you come into a situation you're in Philly,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: you're coming in late in the game, close ball game,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: and you're like, yeah, here it is my debut for
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: the team. Let's show him what I got and like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: we don't see, you know, the true stuff out of it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: It's electric.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: There's there's not a lot, there's not another swing and
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: miss on the forcem Er. I know that when it
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: comes to uh, having one on one in there. Slider's
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: pretty good. We'll see that well. Deone to such a
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: different look than than and Cosgrove and palm Quist. They
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: come out of the same slot toy, different as far
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: as like more you know, way more extension out of
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: palm Quist than you do with Cosgrove, but similar type stuff.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: So we're starting to see a little bit more of
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: an array of looks from these guys, especially with stuff,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: you know, consistency. That's what it ends up coming coming
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: back to, is consistency for these guys to show some
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: you know, lengthy runs as far as you know, having
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: the swing and miss, but not only that, having clean
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: innings and going through their last what four innings they
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: went last night without giving up a hit, which was fantastic. Now,
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: they watched a couple of guys hit a guy here
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: and there, but like that, that's I could live with that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't see any hits. That was a big factor.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: And they had to go through that that top part
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: of the order twice and to me that that is
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: a huge moment.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and really quickly. I'm nervous this graphic
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: again may already have become outdated, but Christopher Sanchez has
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: friendI mentioned getting the rock earlier today starter in the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: National League for the All Star Game.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a tall task and.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Miles Michaelis is slated is the starter as of last
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: night when I was piecing this together, Spencer, is that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: still the case as of right now as far as we.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Know it is?
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: And I asked Blake, it doesn't sound like Miles will
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: be in the pregame hitters meeting or we'll get to
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: d H Unfortunately, yeah, in this one. But yeah, I
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: tried to at least ask the question to see if
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: it was ruminating in his mind. But now I believe,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: at least as of right now, Miles is starting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well see, and we see it'll be interesting too
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  Speaker 5: because we've seen the success the difference for Miles coming
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  Speaker 5: in out as a reliever, bulk reliever. Yes, drastic night
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  Speaker 5: and day when it comes to him. But you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: the tall task and be against Christopher Sanchez this year
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  Speaker 5: against home games, he's nine to one with a one
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  Speaker 5: two eight ERA. He has eighteen more hits than Aine's
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: pitch on the seventy eight to sixty. He has twenty
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: one less hits than ames pitch at home, which.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Is wild to think about. Yeah, and you're looking at it. Yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a tall task today. We'll see
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the Nationals are up for it. As we start to
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: wrap up. Just want to remind our incredible viewers and
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• 32:35
  Speaker 1: We had a lot of comments and a lot of
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: support on the last YouTube video, saw a lot of engagement.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone that hyped up that video. The gentlemen,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: is there anything you want toss in before the Nats
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  Speaker 1: wrap up the series here in Philly.
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  Speaker 5: For me, I think this is a big opportunity to
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: show that things could still look green on the other side.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Right is you go on a road trip and you
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: get swept in Atlanta, you lose the first two and
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: you have an opportunity to split a series here in Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 5: which would be fantastic, you know, not only for fans
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: but for the players to know what they were doing.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: By the way, pitch of the Day yesterday for Thomas
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: Nistico the TJ stats your Bonnie Cruz is slider, Just
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: to let you know, highest grade plus stuff plus.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was trying to say that, but I didn't remember
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  Speaker 4: the account, so I appreciate you bringing that up.
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  Speaker 2: You know me, I'm on gott a tribute. Yeah, I
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: think that's all we got. We will see you all.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we have enough storylines to do
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: another episode tomorrow, maybe Saturday morning, but until then, we'll
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: see you later.