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Bonus Episode: CASSM, Nikki Sixx, and the Gospel According to Jimmy Buffett · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge getting from one full episode of
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  Speaker 1: Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt,
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  Speaker 1: our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth,
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  Speaker 1: to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about this week's full episode subject Nikki six, Part
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  Speaker 1: two of our Motley Crusaga. We're rewinding back to our
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  Speaker 1: Pink Floyd episode, previewing our upcoming episode on Waylon Jennings,
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  Speaker 1: and we get into your voice, smells, text, DMS, and
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  Speaker 1: as always a whole lot of rosie. This is the
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  Speaker 1: podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers
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  Speaker 1: who know that the best history is the history that
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  Speaker 1: gets buried. Disgrace Land is where I tell the stories
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want told, the kind you end up telling
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  Speaker 1: to someone else. All right, disc goes, Let's get into it. Oftentimes,
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  Speaker 1: when I'm running a disgrace Land episode, I'm not only
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  Speaker 1: thinking of you guys. I have an image of what
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  Speaker 1: you guys look like. Now. I don't know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you personally, but some of you I do. Some
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  Speaker 1: of you I've met in person at events. Some of
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  Speaker 1: you are more familiar with from the Patreon connection that
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  Speaker 1: we have in the chat, and of course I get
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  Speaker 1: a sense of who you are what you look like
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  Speaker 1: from our interactions on social. Now some of you are
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  Speaker 1: horn rimmed, glasses wearing librarians, and some of you are
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  Speaker 1: tattooed truck drivers, and some of you are everything in between.
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  Speaker 1: What connects you isn't how you look, of course, whether
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  Speaker 1: that's similar or dissimilar. What connects you is your curiosity. You,
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  Speaker 1: like me, are obsessed. I've been thinking about this a
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  Speaker 1: lot lately. Obsessed with music, Obsessed with great storytelling, Obsessed
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  Speaker 1: with the truth, because the truth is far more interesting
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  Speaker 1: than the basic PR approved or AI generated or basic
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  Speaker 1: AF creator drivel that we're getting in our feeds these days,
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  Speaker 1: being on social or even from the new documentaries and
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  Speaker 1: biopics that we're getting from the streamers. As somebody who
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  Speaker 1: deals pretty much exclusively in music history. This is very
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  Speaker 1: discouraging for me. Okay, there's so much more to these
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  Speaker 1: music history stories. You saw Gimme Shelter, You've seen twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hour party people. You know what great music storytelling is.
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  Speaker 1: You are cooler than your average basic music listener. You
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  Speaker 1: know that most of the stories about the musicians you love,
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  Speaker 1: the ones the algorithm is feeding us, are sanitized spun
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote, safe narratives, cleaned up by some unholy union
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  Speaker 1: of sentimental dramatists and tightly round entertainment lawyers, made for
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  Speaker 1: modern TV, not for mythology. But the truth is that
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  Speaker 1: the myth is way more entertaining than what they're giving us.
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  Speaker 1: These motherfuckers are everywhere too. Okay, the corporate algorithmic studio
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  Speaker 1: storytelling machine my YouTube feed is an abomination of shitty,
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  Speaker 1: wrote creator in AI storytelling. Yes, mister YouTube, I like music, sure,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't need seventeen different avatars trying to explain
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  Speaker 1: to me who the fucking Beatles are. I get it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Oh you see me. You say you want to offer
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  Speaker 1: me something, perhaps a bit more niche the reason the
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  Speaker 1: Beetles stop touring. I'm good, dude, I don't need a
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  Speaker 1: million explanation on how the screaming girls were too loud.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not talking about Japanese assassins at Buddha On
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  Speaker 1: trying to take out George and Ringo, I'm clicking next,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm guessing that you are too. The streamers are
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  Speaker 1: even worse because they have the money and the means
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  Speaker 1: to make great content, and what do we get It
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  Speaker 1: ain't good. The documentaries are boring. I know the stories,
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  Speaker 1: I know them as they're unfolding on the screen in
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  Speaker 1: front of me. The biopics, they often leave out the
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  Speaker 1: nasty little bits, and even when the story is bonkers,
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  Speaker 1: they blow it. These days, Chaos on Netflix was a
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  Speaker 1: massive disappointment. Now, I don't blame Errol Mars or Tom O'Neil.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell that the doc was noted to death
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  Speaker 1: by executives. It missed on all the magical storytelling in
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  Speaker 1: the book and definitely could have been made to be
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  Speaker 1: great if the executives get out of the way and
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  Speaker 1: let the storytellers do their thing. I don't know about you, guys,
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  Speaker 1: but the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine, this blob that
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  Speaker 1: I'm referring to here that I'm I'm gonna call chasm
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  Speaker 1: all right, c ASSM again, Corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machines
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  Speaker 1: c ASSM. Chasm aka the divide between us and great stories.
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  Speaker 1: See what I did here? This thing, this bob, it's
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  Speaker 1: taking over, okay, and it makes me feel it's freaking alienating, man,
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  Speaker 1: Because because of you, guys, I know there are hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of thousands of people out there who are clamoring for
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  Speaker 1: the true stories from music history. I don't need to
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  Speaker 1: be made to feel by mister chasm here that I'm
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  Speaker 1: alone or that I'm a freak for caring about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that John Lennon was into Barbara Walters and hung
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  Speaker 1: up on Bruce Springsteen. These are the details I want
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  Speaker 1: in my storytelling because like you, I'm curious, Because like you,
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  Speaker 1: I want more interesting stories, because like you, I'm smart
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  Speaker 1: enough to know that the truth is more interesting than
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  Speaker 1: the sanitize. Because like you, I'm cool enough to know
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  Speaker 1: the chasm, the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine is the problem,
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  Speaker 1: not me, and that the solution is well better stories
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  Speaker 1: for music history. Anyways. In this case, the stories we
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  Speaker 1: tell to each other every week the stories you not
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  Speaker 1: only want to hear, but that you want to tell
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  Speaker 1: the stories they don't want told. Now all that said,
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  Speaker 1: the trailer for the new Jeff Buckley documentary dropped today
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  Speaker 1: and I am nothing if not hopelessly hopeful. Because the
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  Speaker 1: trailer for It's Never Over Jeff Buckley, directed by Amy Berg,
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  Speaker 1: it looks incredible. I have high hopes hopes that this
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  Speaker 1: film gets to the core of this incredible artist and
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  Speaker 1: delivers storytelling that's worthy of such a legend. Again, I'm hopeful.
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  Speaker 1: Despite my opening rant here, I'm not cynical, Okay. I
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  Speaker 1: watched the trailer for this documentary and I literally got emotional.
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  Speaker 1: I felt something akin to actual loss. I'm not joking.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know Jeff, but I feel connected to him
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of different reasons. Some of you do too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we discussed these reasons already when we released
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  Speaker 1: our Jeff Buckley episode a couple of years ago or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was, and you know, some will discuss in
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  Speaker 1: the future once this movie drops, we'll get into all
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  Speaker 1: of it. But the loss of Jeff Buckley was as
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  Speaker 1: tremendous as his explosion was onto the scene, and I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to get a deeper dive into that whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: into the whole myth of Jeff Buckley with this documentary.
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  Speaker 1: Now on the subject of emotion, Okay, if you were
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  Speaker 1: alive in the nineteen nineties and watched any of the
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  Speaker 1: footage from last weekend's Oasis Manchester gig and didn't get emotional,
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  Speaker 1: then you are dead inside. Somebody call up the fucking
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  Speaker 1: mortician and get them over to your place. These guys legends,
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  Speaker 1: all I know. If you saw these videos like me,
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  Speaker 1: you were just I mean, the fomo you were. If
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  Speaker 1: any of you were there, by all means, call me
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  Speaker 1: up six one, seven nine, six sixty six three eight.
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear about it. But the fomo I
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  Speaker 1: had was unreal. The fucking audience screaming every word to
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  Speaker 1: every song for two hours straight. It's it sealed this
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  Speaker 1: thinking for me that that I've been noodling on the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. We want connection more than ever.
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  Speaker 1: Modern music, Now, this isn't Grandpa coming at here. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't like old head hardcore guy coming out here. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't this isn't my generation. That's not what this is.
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  Speaker 1: Don't take it that way. Modern music doesn't connect us
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  Speaker 1: the way that artists that we love from the past
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  Speaker 1: connected us. It has nothing to do with taste or
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  Speaker 1: style or who's good or who sucks. We simply just
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  Speaker 1: don't rally around bands and artists now like we did
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  Speaker 1: then when there was a monoculture. When we get to
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  Speaker 1: peek back into what it was like then, when these songs,
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  Speaker 1: when these artists bring us back to that place, like
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  Speaker 1: what Oasis is doing right now, it's hyper intense, hyper emotional.
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  Speaker 1: It's not nostalgia we crave. It's the type of connection
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  Speaker 1: that was once everywhere but has been obliterated by the algorithms. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that siphon us off into these tidy little niche feeds
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  Speaker 1: where we only connect with those who are exactly the
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  Speaker 1: same as us. I mean, this is why I cover
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  Speaker 1: artists from every genre. This is why I cover artists
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  Speaker 1: that I've not particularly interested in because I'm curious, because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'll get into something that will be
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  Speaker 1: interesting and that will in turn help us tap into
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  Speaker 1: something together and will have this other type of connection.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be siphoned off into my own
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  Speaker 1: tiny little niche feed. Okay, this connection that we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: at these oasis gigs. This is also why young people
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  Speaker 1: are showing up in droves to these concerts with these
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  Speaker 1: guys who were making music before they were born in
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  Speaker 1: some cases, and it's why oways this is charting again.
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  Speaker 1: This type of connection is like mainlining, a type of
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  Speaker 1: visceral excitement that you know, non millennials, non gen X whatever,
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  Speaker 1: never experienced. It is, as Liam Gallagher wants saying, electric
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  Speaker 1: all right, if you've been listening to me the last
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  Speaker 1: few weeks, then you know I haven't been able to
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  Speaker 1: shut up about Chris Whitaker's We Begin at the end
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: the book that I was reading. I finished it last
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  Speaker 1: week and before the end I had two audible gasps. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it shocked me as a reader. It made me feel
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: like a character in a Smith's song, like an outlaw
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: from Springsteen's Nebraska. It nearly made me cry, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't cry easily. It's not only one of the best
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  Speaker 1: murder mystery, slash thriller, slash, crime novel, slash whatever the
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  Speaker 1: fuck I've read, It's one of the best books I've
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  Speaker 1: read period. I didn't want it to end. It took
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  Speaker 1: me probably three weeks to read, maybe four I was reading.
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  Speaker 1: I was slow rolling it, man, because I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: it to end. That doesn't happen often. Anyways, I'm done
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  Speaker 1: with it. It's fantastic. You should all read it, and you
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  Speaker 1: should tell me what you think about it. I just
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: started reading Chuck Hogan's Gangland. By the way, Chuck Hogan
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: wrote the town that the Ben Affleck movie is based on.
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  Speaker 1: Be done with this book before the end of the week.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell it's going down hard. It's going down fast.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a shot of good Berman after a big
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  Speaker 1: emotional night of Trouma, which was, you know, the Chris
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  Speaker 1: Whitaker book. Hogan's book, on the other hand, straight seventies
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  Speaker 1: mafia perfection. It was an incredible character one that gave
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  Speaker 1: me one of those audible gas I was just talking about,
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  Speaker 1: but just gave it to me two chapters in just
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  Speaker 1: fucking great. Love it. That's Gangland by Chuck Hogan. If
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  Speaker 1: you're interested now what I'm listening to, you'll never believe it.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm listening to Jimmy Buffett. What the hell happened
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  Speaker 1: to your slightly edgy smartess gen X Disgray sand Host
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  Speaker 1: You asked, Well, like you guys, I got curious. Now,
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  Speaker 1: someone one of you, man, I wish I could remember
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  Speaker 1: who so I could thank you. One of you sent
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  Speaker 1: me an email or a text or a DM. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if we read it here on the show
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, or if I just responded you know wherever
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  Speaker 1: you hit me up. But one of you got in touch,
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  Speaker 1: and you told me that the Jimmy Buffett backstory was
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  Speaker 1: completely contrary to the sort of smiley, blissful, escapist, parrot
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  Speaker 1: head Margueriteville image that I have in my head. And boy,
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  Speaker 1: oh boy, were you right? And bonus the music? Okay, up,
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  Speaker 1: up and until just after the record that Margaritaville is
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  Speaker 1: on the music, Jimmy Buffett's early records pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm into it. I hesitate to say that
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a Jimmy Buffett summer because I'm not. I'm
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: having a Turnstyle and Keith Jarrett summer. But these records
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  Speaker 1: shocked me with how how much I liked them. Okay,
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: I'll be done writing this episode. I should say I'm
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  Speaker 1: researching all this for an episode, and I'll be done.
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  Speaker 1: I'm writing it this week. I'll be done, be done
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  Speaker 1: with it this week and it'll be out in a
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  Speaker 1: couple months. And I gotta say I love it when
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  Speaker 1: you guys dig up the dirt for me and point
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  Speaker 1: me in the right direction. So thank you, dig keep digging,
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• 12:48
  Speaker 1: We'll see, all right. If you want more music, Rex,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: if you want to know how Marlon Brando influenced the
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  Speaker 1: music that I'm listening to this week and what specific
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: songs I'm recommending for your July playlist, you gotta listen
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  Speaker 1: Don't Know stuff podcasts, podcast episodes, Marlon Brando legend that
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  Speaker 1: he is, other legends, another legend NICKI six. The myth
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  Speaker 1: surrounding Nikki six are episode full episode subject this week.
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  Speaker 1: The myth is that he died and came back to life,
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  Speaker 1: but we reckon with the fact that yes, that's true, man,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. But the real truth is that he actually
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  Speaker 1: died twice and came back to life. If you can
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  Speaker 1: believe that Nicky's story of rock and roll animalism is
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  Speaker 1: so wild that we couldn't even come close to telling
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  Speaker 1: all the dirty details that he gets into in his autobiography,
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  Speaker 1: We couldn't even come close to fitting it into the
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  Speaker 1: full episode this week. But hey, that's what we have
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  Speaker 1: these bonus episodes for. And in the all access section
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  Speaker 1: of this after party, I'm gonna be giving you three
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  Speaker 1: quick stories of Nicki six rock and roll criminality in
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  Speaker 1: debauchery that we're just too damn hot for the wide feed.
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  Speaker 1: coming up after this episode, we are rewinding to our
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Pink Floyd story. If you want to know the true
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: depths and cause of Sid Barrett's madness and hear a
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: pretty funny story about who's Pete Townsend tripping his balls? Often,
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  Speaker 1: listen to the Pink Floyd episode coming up after this
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  Speaker 1: after Party after Floyd. On Tuesday, we have our new
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  Speaker 1: episode on Wayland Jennings. Now, if you thought Wayland was
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  Speaker 1: messed up, you're gonna want to hear the story about
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  Speaker 1: the lengths Waylon Jennings had to go to to hide
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  Speaker 1: his drugs from his roommate who was even more messed
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  Speaker 1: up than he was. Now that roommate was, of course,
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Cash. And this begs the question that I want
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  Speaker 1: you to be thinking about when you listen to the
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  Speaker 1: Waylon Jennings episode. Next, this question is who was the
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  Speaker 1: most punk rock of the country music singers? All right,
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  Speaker 1: gotta take a quick break. Coming up next the music,
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  Speaker 1: the musicians, the crimes, the stories you want to talk
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  Speaker 1: one seven, nine oh six, six six three eight. You
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  Speaker 1: know where I'm at, same place I'm at every week
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  Speaker 1: in the phone booth, the one across the hall, Hanging
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  Speaker 1: on the telephone wait for you to send me a voicemail,
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  Speaker 1: wait for you to send me a text, because you
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  Speaker 1: guys know better than anyone that music history does not
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  Speaker 1: have to be boring. Okay, you get a line on
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  Speaker 1: these insane stories, just like I got a line on
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  Speaker 1: All right. Pete Milan, one of our Patreon chat members
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  Speaker 1: hit us up, hit me up over in the Patreon
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  Speaker 1: chat publicly with this incredible story last week about David
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  Speaker 1: Bowie getting banned from SNL, similar to the Replacements last
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  Speaker 1: week's full full episode subject getting banned from SNL, which
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know that about David Bowie
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  Speaker 1: and this was in the eighties I believe it might
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  Speaker 1: have been early nineties. He sent me a link to
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  Speaker 1: the article. Fascinating to me. What's up with Laura Michaels
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  Speaker 1: just like your band, you know what I mean? Like
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  Speaker 1: it just strikes me as it's like the dude, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that fucking kid in your neighborhood who you let play
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  Speaker 1: in the in the football game because he had the
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  Speaker 1: better football, but he's really a pain in the ass.
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  Speaker 1: And something then goes way and he took the fucking
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: ball home. That's what Laura Michaels reminds me of. Here
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: with is your band? I mean Elvis Costello? Okay, the replacements?
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: David Bowie? What are you doing? Man? Who else? We
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: need a running list of people banned from Saturday Night Live? Anyways?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: My point Pete Milan, one of you guys gave me
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: that stories and I appreciate it. Let's uh, let's get
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: into some calls here. Six one seven nine oh six
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: six six three eight. You guys want to call me
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: with any incredible stories for music history, you can do that.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: You can call me. You can answer the question of
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the week from last week, which was about no. What
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: was the question? Oh yeah, which hair metal bands are
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: are you? Are you most into?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: If which, which is the one the one that especially
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: if you're not a hair metal person. A lot of
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: lot of incoming from you guys on wanting to hear
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: some hair metal episodes. I kind of use this Motley
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Cruze Part two Nikki six episode to get a bead
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: on on who exactly from the hair metal scene you
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: guys are into. With the question of the week, let's
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: check out Jim from the three to one eight.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Hey, Jay, this is Jim from the three one eight.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Absolutely love the show Man. Regarding the hair metal question, Yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I was primarily an eighties and nineties college rock, alternative rock,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. Guy. Going to high
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: school in the midle eight eighties, I couldn't avoid hearing
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: a lot of hair metal, and I liked a lot
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: of it. Particularly love the band Rats. They just had
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: a really catchy sound who wrote really memorable songs. They
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: had an amazing guitar duo with Blake Great, Robin Crosby
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and Warren de Martini. A vocalist Stephen Pearcy had a
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: kind of snotty, semi punk tone to his voice, and
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Bobby Blotson was my kind of drummer, just a straight
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: ahead bachery still knew how to make the song stand out.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: So yeah, there are a lot of other hair metal bands.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I will admit to have loved the Rat kind of
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: rose to the top. And I'm responding late to the
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: previous week's question. Two other bands I thought should have
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: been huge for the Northeast mission of Burma and the
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Northwest Hazies mission of Burma was so far ahead of
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the curve in their sound. It's just amazing. He go
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: back and listen to the early stuff and the posies
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: with that, those incredible harmonies mixed with a fuzzy guitar,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: they should have also been at the top of the heat. Anyway, Man,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: love the show. Can't wait to hear it every week.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Rock and Roller, Jim, it's interesting you bring up Rat.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I saw Nicky six posts the other day on Instagram
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and he he just it was kind of sad. Yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: there's a picture of him and Robin Crosby and he
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: just said, I miss my friend Robin, and I don't know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it was just there were all these great pictures of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: him and Robin Crosby together getting up to no good.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I wasn't a big rat guy, but I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: get it. I totally get it, and I think there's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: actually a rat episode there. I think Robin's death was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: very sad, very sad chapter for music history, and it'd
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: be cool to get into that story. All right, let's
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: check out the two five one on Jimmy Buffett.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, Ben Rockawiki from day one just heard yesterday
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: day before, You're gonna have a Jimmy Buffer episode. I
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: just want to give you my two cents. I'm in
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: La Lower Alabama. Uh like you. Not a big fan.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Didn't hate him, but it's kind of music or a
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: metal head. Anyway. I went to work for his sister.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Has a restaurant now, or had a restaurant that was
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: four or five. I got to meet Jimmy a couple
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: of times. I was an English teacher for years, so
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I was very impressed with his writing ability or a
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: couple of books. Some of this song was the only
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: one that went to the dead poet, wife of a
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: dead poet, or whatever's great love in the Library's great
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: come Monday is great. I didn't care for all the
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Margaritaville stuff.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I met the dude a couple of times. At dinner
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: with him. Once super chill guy. I asked him if
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: he hadn't done music, what would he do. He was
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: going to be a history teacher. He even has a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: degree in history from the University of Southern Mississippi. Anyway, Oh,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you did mention you reading a book by Tom mcgwayne.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you know this your research. But he is
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Jimmy's brother in law. Married to his sister Lori, who
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I met and Tom his sister Laurie was a world
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: class A question and a question and mcgoy's first wife
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: was Margot Kidder from The Superman Anyway. Love your show, brother,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I can't wait here the Buffet stuff, take care rock
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a Roller.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Gotta love the metal heads showing up for Jimmy Buffett.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And you know, in the research, I knew nothing about
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett before researching this episode. One thing is abundantly
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: clear in this research, and that is that Jimmy Buffett
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was a great fucking guy, hands down. Like I kept
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: having this feeling in researching Jimmy Buffett, this this feeling
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of oh, man, I wish this guy was still alive.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And he's just so effortlessly charming in an authentic way.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: He's always smiling, or was always smiling, I should say,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and just seems like a really great dude. I don't
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: know that he would have been a history teacher. I
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: think he had. It was tough trying to get this
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: end of the episode. I'm still writing it. I'm trying
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to make this point. He had this real entrepreneurial spirit
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that I totally related to because of how he grew
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: up in Alabama with his sorry in Mississippi, I should
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: say he was born in Alabama, grew up in Mississippi,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and just who his parents were, very hard working, very
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: very kind of blue collar people, and obviously we see
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that come through with his career. So I don't know
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: if he would have been a history teacher. That seems
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: like a stretch. Maybe that's just something he said, but
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. What do I know? You met him,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't meet him. As for Tom mcgaane, I'm kind
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of I'm kind of more impressed that you met Tom
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: mcgwaine than I am. You met Jimmy Buffett. That's that's incredible.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And yes I did know about him being Jimmy's brother
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: in law, and did I even knew about Margot Kidder,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: but I did not know that until I researched Jimmy Buffett.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: So thanks for the call, appreciate it. Hope you dig.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: The Buffett episode coming up soon will not be what
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you expect, won't be with any of you guys expect.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: All right, let's check out the five one two Jay.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: It's throw in the five one two Austin, Texas. Pay
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: first a shout out to all my neighbors who are
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: digging out. It's been a rough couple of weeks, so
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: some love to them. Just got done listening to your
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Guns n' Roses episodes fantastic as always, wondering if you've
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: read Duff mccagan's memoir. It's so easy. It's not definitely
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: recommend yet. I read a lot of memoirs rock and
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: roll musicians, and his heads and shoulders above the rest.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: It's not your typical typical read, smart, inspiring, well written.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I do you recommend Duff mccagan, It's so easy. Keep
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: up the good work.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Love your pod five one two. Yes, I been praying
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: for all you folks in Texas, hoping that you get
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: some relief, those of you who were affected from the storm,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: your neighbors down there, five one two. As for Duff
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: mccagan's memoir, I have not read it. I believe it
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: came out after I researched the Guns n' Roses episode.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: But I've always known Duf mccagen to be a smart,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: smart dude, one of the smurterer rock and rollers, so
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me that his memoir is great. As
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you say last time, I went to south By Southwest.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Not the last time I went to Austin, but the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: last time I went to south By Southwest. It's with
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Podega Girls, my band at the time, and we were
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: we were eating at a nice restaurant, not something we
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: did often, and Duff was in there at a table
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of people. It's a really nice place,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and he was just so fucking cool looking. You know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: you know those guys who are just older and cool looking,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and you're just like, damn, man, how do you do it?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: How do you maintain that glow? Dude, that rock and
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: roll glow? And you don't get that rock and roll stink?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's tough for old guys,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: old rock and rollers, but he's pulling it off. Six
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three. You guys,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: want to hit me up on anything under the music history, son,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you can do so. Let's see. Let's see this text
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: from the four one two. Hey Jake, my name is Tom.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not the best disco sometimes takes me a few
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: weeks to listen, but I'm all caught up. The greatest
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: hair metal band. Well, you can't Deny Motley Crue got
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: into them early and eventually led me to harder thrash
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: metal and punk. But I did have a hairband era
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and one of my favorites was Slash is do O.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Ronnie. I always appreciate your listeners' suggestions.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Someone recommended Fanny after the Go Gos episode and they
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: were really good. Yeah that's right, Fanny forgot about them.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Matt Bowden his head almost exploded when he found out
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: that I'd never heard them before, and that came from
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you guys at disco. So thank you. Like I said,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you guys know where the good shit is. Motley Crue
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: was a gateway drug to other thrash medal. I never
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: thought of it that way, but yeah, I can see
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: how that would happen for you. Dio, what a voice. Honestly,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I work out to Rainbow in the Dark at least
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: once a week, so good. Also, Dio, New Hampshire Boy,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: thanks for the text. Four one two Let's go to
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the three to four. Texan simply put Nebraska better than
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Blonde on Blonde, whoa whoa easy there CoA cheese, both masterpieces.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: But come on, you know, did I say that Nebraska
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: was better than blonde on blonde. I think I did,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and I think I stand by that. And I read
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: this text just because he called me coachees and I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: really think that's cool, and I wanted to get it
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: out on the record. Okay, let's go to the nines
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: nine seven two texting in I beg you three exclamation points.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Please please do an episode or two on the SoCal
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: band anywise, you could do several, just on the lead
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: guitarist Fletcher alone in their original Bassis Jason Matthew Thursk
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: died by accidental gunshot. Fletcher took Adam Carolla hostage live
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: on the air in Los Angeles. One what seriously? How
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: do I not know that story?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: You got it? Penny Wise episode coming up? I love it?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Great text six one seven nine oh six six six
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: three eight. You want to hit me up with this
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: week's question of the week, which let me see if
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I can remember. It's gonna be about Waylon Jennings, Yes,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: CS yes. In the question of the week is who
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: among the country singers was the most punk? Okay, was
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: it Whalen? I don't know? Six one seven nine sixty
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: six sixty three eight you tell me voicemail and text.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Also email discrismanpot at gmail dot com. Peter R. Chaki,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I'm most certainly pronouncing that incorrectly, and I apologize.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Peter.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Subject David Johansson, thanks for the episode eulogizing the great
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: David Johansson. The Dolls are tremendously underrated. They were the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: first American glam band, the first punk band, the first
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: hair band to pave the way for the Ramones, Kiss, Poison,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Motley Crue, and on and on. Influential and important in
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: many ways. How they are not in the Hall of
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Fame is a travesty. I especially liked your description of
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Johansson as being symbolic of New York City. He was
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the epitome of New York in the seventies. He will
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: be missed. I know this comment is a little late,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: but I wanted you to know the episode on him
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: was greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work, as I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: enjoy both Disgraceland and Hollywood Lamb. Peter, thanks so much.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Happy hit you with that one. Yeah, I mean you
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: kind of said it all they I did. You're absolutely right, Ramones, Kiss, Poison,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Motley Crue, none of them would exist without the New
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: York Dolls, how many of them are in the Rock
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. Ramones are pretty sure kiss
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Is is Motley Crue. I don't think Moty Cruez is
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Motley Crue. They probably are poisons. Not so New York
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Dolls influences. Let's just say three out of four of
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: these bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yet they're not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And it's not like they just like kind of influenced
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: these bands. I mean, Gene Simmons basically stole his the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: whole fucking thing from New York Dolls Motley Crue as well.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen to the part one episode we just
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: released direct influence on Nikki six and the Ramones forget
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: about it all right, so great, great email. Appreciate you, Peter,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: thank you. I'll have more in the New York Dolls
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: later when we get into the vault. If you guys
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: get something to say, don't sit on it, okay, hit
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: me up, hit me up like hit me up like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the rest of the callers the rest of the text
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: your voices. They prompt me to dig, They prompt me
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: to try and uncover these stories that we've been talking
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: about get buried the real stories. Okay. Sometimes there's stories
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not even aware of. I'm not even aware that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: they're out there, okay. And sometimes they use our stories
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: with narratives that are just too convenient, too to sanitized,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to biopickish, you know, not nearly as interesting and entertaining
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: as the truth. And I love it when you guys
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: call and you point me in the right direction, So
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: thank you very much, and keep them coming. Listen, guys,
• 30:34
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• 30:35
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• 30:38
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  Speaker 1: for my rant. Give me the countdown. All right, Red
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Sox listen, Boston Red Sox must have been listening to
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  Speaker 1: the after Party last week because they took my advice
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  Speaker 1: and they did what I said. They went and they
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  Speaker 1: became more interesting. What did they do? They went on
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  Speaker 1: a tear. Okay, it's up to ten games out, ten
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  Speaker 1: wins before the All Star break, ten straight, I should
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  Speaker 1: say before the All Star break. Now, now listen, why
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: do we think that is what changed? Since their mediocre,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: underperforming play for the basement of the Al East. They
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: got rid of Rappie Devers just like I said they should,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and now they need to keep it up. After the
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  Speaker 1: All Star break. They got to nab another starter before
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the deadline and put the Yanks in the rear view
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: where they belong. Let's go, oh, Boston. Don't sleep on
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: this advice, Brezlo. You know I'm right, just like I
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: was right about Devers. Shitty clubhouse guys aren't worth it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Good pitching beats, good hitting all day long. Go get
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: us a stud before the deadline? All right, Matt, how'd
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I do that? Beat it?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Jake?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I got to give you credit for consistency, Just like
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: the Red Sox. You're on a streak here. It's two
• 33:18
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• 33:22
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  Speaker 1: It is mid afternoon, the sun is shining. I might
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  Speaker 1: not be on a golf course, guys, but I'm here
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  Speaker 1: and I am definitely hitting under power in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and so are you guys. Take a quick break.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be back in a flash. All right, guys, we
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  Speaker 1: are back here in the after party. It is hot
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  Speaker 1: as blazes in my studio today. It's because I got
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  Speaker 1: these lights on. I gotta shut them off. It gets
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  Speaker 1: hot in here in the studio. I record in two
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  Speaker 1: different spots. I record at my desk like I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: right now. For the after Party. For the full episodes,
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  Speaker 1: I record in a booth, in a whisper room booth,
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  Speaker 1: which is a pretty tight quarters and it's completely soundproof,
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  Speaker 1: and it gets really really hot in there. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna share a little bit here for you. So
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  Speaker 1: this was about, I don't know, two weeks ago. I
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  Speaker 1: was recording. It's a really really really really hot day.
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  Speaker 1: And the more I went into the booth and the
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  Speaker 1: more I came out to sort of like get a
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  Speaker 1: water in between takes and go back, and I dropped
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  Speaker 1: some clothing, is what I'm saying. Okay, and I got
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  Speaker 1: down to near nothing by the end of it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It took me, like you know, it takes me like
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  Speaker 1: thirty minutes or forty minutes to record these things really
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  Speaker 1: hot again, really hot. And my son walks in the
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  Speaker 1: room and he's he's like, why, what's happening. This is
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  Speaker 1: my seven year old son. And I explained to him,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, not a big deal whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And fast forward to a week later, we're at a
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  Speaker 1: dinner party, family dinner party, catered by a chef, and
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  Speaker 1: we're at these people's house, this house of this of
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  Speaker 1: this couple that we did not know. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: just me and my wife and my kids. It's me,
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  Speaker 1: my wife, my kids, and and my in laws, and
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  Speaker 1: it's this family and there their children who are a
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  Speaker 1: college and high school age and one adult. So there's
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  Speaker 1: about twelve of us all sitting at this one table.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a great meal, a course meal, and very
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  Speaker 1: much you know, signed seating, like the whole thing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And we've never met any of these folks before. They
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  Speaker 1: were friends of my father in laws, and I gotta say,
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  Speaker 1: my sons are killing it. You know, they're making conversation.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the type of thing where like it's
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  Speaker 1: one of those dinner parties where we were sitting at
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  Speaker 1: a big round table and for the most part, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one person was speaking at a time. There wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sort of side conversations going on. There was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't so uptight that it was just like I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: but for the most for a good portion of it,
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  Speaker 1: it was just like, you know, one person would talk.
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  Speaker 1: It was very it was very conversational, but it was
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  Speaker 1: also very formal, is my point. And I was so
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  Speaker 1: proud of my sons, both of them, you know, so proud,
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  Speaker 1: like like they're eating you know, turtle soup and they're
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  Speaker 1: eating they're eating stuff that like they never would would
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  Speaker 1: would eat, you know, crab cakes they never eat. If
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  Speaker 1: I try to get any of they're just they're really
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  Speaker 1: trying their best and they're trying to make conversation. Again
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  Speaker 1: eleven and seven years old, and uh, you know my
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  Speaker 1: oldest you know, he brings up the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 1: they cloned a dire wolf. It was very interesting point
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  Speaker 1: and a really great conversational point. For this dinner and
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more proud of him. And then
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  Speaker 1: my youngest, my seven year old, he takes the cue
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, uh, I got to say something interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And this is after, you know, this is after we
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  Speaker 1: did the whole you know, what do you do for
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  Speaker 1: a living? Blah blah blah blah, and uh, William goes
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  Speaker 1: dead quiet, dead quiet point in the conversation, goes my
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: dad records this podcast naked, and like total fucking church
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  Speaker 1: for art. Everybody stops talking except our family, who just
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  Speaker 1: bursts out laughing. The other our family is not laughing
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  Speaker 1: at all. They've never met us before. They think like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm some psychopath. Just yeah, one of those moments. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to share that with you. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: I just did. I feel, you know, I can't anyhow,
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing, and that happened. Here we go, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what are we doing the hollywood Land Minute this week
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  Speaker 1: on the Hollywood Land Show. Over in the Hollywood Land Feed,
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  Speaker 1: we get into the iconic Marlon Brando. And if you
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: want to hear a Marlon Brando story that you likely
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: have never heard before, then you must go to the
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• 38:33
  Speaker 1: if you want more conversation like this one that I'm
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: giving you right here, but with a little more back
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and forth, a little more conversational. Me and my guys
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Zeth are over in the Hollywood Land Feed every week
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: in the Rap Party, doing our thing, and we get
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: into some great music recommendations, which is one of the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: highlights of my week, if I'm being honest, Matt, want
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: you to go ahead, play these guys a clip. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Marlon Brando made me think of Marlon Jackson, brother of Tito, Jackie, Jermaine,
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  Speaker 1: and Michael, the five in the Jackson Five. Now, Marlon
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Jackson has a long I don't want to say illustrious,
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  Speaker 1: but he does have a career in music. And I
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: am recommending none of that. However, at one point, at
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: one point, I believe in nineteen eighty three, Marlon Jackson
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  Speaker 1: produced an album by soul singer Betty Right. Betty Right
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  Speaker 1: is incredible, the album that Marlon Jackson produced. I don't
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: know if it's incredible. I've never heard it, but I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: have heard I Love the Way You Love from nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy two by Betty right, and it features the excellent
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  Speaker 1: song Cleanup Woman. Okay, so Marlon Brando got me, Marlon
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Jackson got me, Betty Right gets the listener's clean Up
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  Speaker 1: Woman as the song for my recommendation this week. Have
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  Speaker 1: you heard Cleanup Woman?
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  Speaker 5: By the way, yes, I've heard clean that. There was,
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  Speaker 5: and there was a great compilation. I think Rhino put
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  Speaker 5: out Rhino or somebody back on like the early two thousands.
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  Speaker 5: There were like three lesser known soul R and B
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  Speaker 5: female singers, Canny Satan, Betty Wright, and there was a
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  Speaker 5: third and they put out these incredible compilation albums. And
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  Speaker 5: that's where I first heard about Betty Right.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, all right, that is Hollywood Land. That's a Hollywood
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• 40:30
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  Speaker 1: It's also going to get you more of this here
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  Speaker 1: bonus episode and this week in particular, you're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: want to miss out because I'm going to give you
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  Speaker 1: three stories about Nikki six that were just two off
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  Speaker 1: the fucking charts for the full episode for the wide feed. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we are back. Let's dip in quickly to some of
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the subjects that we mentioned on this show that haven't
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: featured in Disgracelam before. Jeff Buckley. We talked about Jeff
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Buckley earlier in the B block, and we have an
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: episode on Jeff Buckley. And if you want to hear
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: about Jeff Buckley's incredible, diverse group of influences and you
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: want to hear more about how he died sadly, then
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you got to check this episode out. It's a heartbreaker
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure it'll be a good primer to the
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: doc that is coming out. I believe in August is
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: when the documentaries released, we mentioned the New York Dolls,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and in that New York Dolls episode we get into
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: hot it's kind of the opposite of the Jeff Buckley
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: when we get into if you want to hear about
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: how they influence Kiss, how they influence the remote owns.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: If you want to hear how the caller said David
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Johansson was sort of the embodiment of New York City.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: And do you want to hear about the arrest and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: some all around you know, rock and roll violence, then
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you know that New York Dolls episode is waiting for you.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: We mentioned Bob Dylan, and if you just got a
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: hanker in for some Dylan, you want to know why
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: or why not he may or may not have been
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: involved with the whole Watergate scandal back in the early
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: seventies with Nixon and all. Then Hey, Bob Dylan Part
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: two it waits. We also got Bob Dylan Part one,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: and that one's going to disrupt the myth of the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: motorcycle accident and give you the lowdown on what we
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: think actually happened. Matt will have the information, as he
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: does every week on these episodes, in the show notes
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of this bonus episode. He'll make it easier for you
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: to find Jeff Buckley New York Dolls, Bob Dylan. All right,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: let's recap Shallow We Number one, this week's full episode
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  Speaker 1: on Nikki six is available for you right now. Go
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  Speaker 1: check that out. Number two. We are rewinding this week
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  Speaker 1: with Pink Floyd. Number three up next week, Waylon Jennings.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, number four over in the Hollywoodland fet go
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  Speaker 1: check out that Merlon Brandow episode. Check out the Rap
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  Speaker 1: Party with Me and Zeth number five six one seven
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  Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. Voicemail and text
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  Speaker 1: DM me at s Grace Lampod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook
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  Speaker 1: your voices, help me uncover what gets buried. Your takes.
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  Speaker 1: They propel me into the dark corners of music history.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: So keep them coming. Dig baby dig, all right, dig
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: baby dig Now that the night is over. Yes, Michael Hutchins,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Number six. Do not forget disc goes. This
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: isn't just content, it's community, a community of the obsessed.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: No one cares about music, books, records and the crime
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and grime that ties it all together like you do.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right. December twenty third,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, the date of Nikki six's first death.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Sort of? Kind of, not really,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I don't care. Here's what we were listening to in
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: America on December twenty third, nineteen eighty seven. From the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Billboard Charts. Number one Faith George Michael last week one,
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  Speaker 1: peak position one weeks on chart ten. Number two So
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  Speaker 1: Emotional last week three, peak position two weeks on chart.
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  Speaker 1: They're nine Harrison. Number three is this Love You? White
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Snake last week last to peak position for weeks on six.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Number four, Got My Mind set on You week George Harrison,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: last week you peak position four weeks on chart to ten.
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  Speaker 1: Number five Shake Your Love Desision last week peak positions
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  Speaker 1: on show. Quit talking and start mixing.