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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in.
- 0:08Speaker 2: You, I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I I'm all in podcasts one
- 0:23Speaker 1: to eleven productions. iHeartRadio, iHeart podcast, I heeart Media. I'm
- 0:28Speaker 1: going to be appearing next weekend at MotorCity Comic Con
- 0:33Speaker 1: in Farmington, Illinois, November ten, eleven twelve, so come on
- 0:40Speaker 1: out and see me. I'm also going to be a
- 0:42Speaker 1: Columbus Galaxy Con on December two and three, so I
- 0:48Speaker 1: hope to see you out there, y'all. This is twenty
- 0:53Speaker 1: one and is the loneliest number of season six, Episode seven.
- 0:57Speaker 1: I am joined by my intrepid crew. Today we are
- 1:00Speaker 1: scaled down a little bit.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Ah.
- 1:04Speaker 1: I bring you the One, the Only, the Queen, the
- 1:07Speaker 1: newly minted Queen of the Realm, Suzanne French, and the
- 1:14Speaker 1: overseer Amy Sugarman.
- 1:17Speaker 4: Suzanne. Wait before we start, Scott, you don't have to
- 1:20Speaker 4: be a part of this because it's like Girleie Gilmore Gossip.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Do I do I need to you know what? I'm
- 1:25Speaker 1: removing the headphones.
- 1:28Speaker 4: You want to enjoy this. You want to enjoy this like.
- 1:31Speaker 1: To the fridge.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Now, okay, fine, Suzanne, did you see that Milo got
- 1:38Speaker 3: married and his wife new wife's last name?
- 1:41Speaker 4: I mean, I was like shook, yes, yeah, Mariano. It's perfect.
- 1:47Speaker 4: It was fate. It was meant to be. It's so good.
- 1:52Speaker 4: It's like would have named her baby Logan. It's he
- 2:01Speaker 4: couldn't have done better. It's so good.
- 2:03Speaker 5: It was meant to be. I think it's awesome, totally
- 2:06Speaker 5: cute photos.
- 2:07Speaker 4: We're happy for him. Okay, Scott, we're done with our
- 2:10Speaker 4: with our gossiping.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Are you back cereal?
- 2:18Speaker 4: Oh my god? Okay, So I did tell Scott that
- 2:20Speaker 4: I had to talk about cereal today. Was it last
- 2:23Speaker 4: week where we were talking about our favorite cereals? The
- 2:26Speaker 4: two weeks ago?
- 2:28Speaker 1: It was recent, it's within recent memory.
- 2:30Speaker 4: Which again I found honeycomb which, like, I'm so hungry
- 2:35Speaker 4: right now, kind of want to crack get open. But Scott,
- 2:37Speaker 4: for you, Oky Crisp, just start your day off with
- 2:43Speaker 4: a bowl of sugar. Epic. First of all, huge bag
- 2:51Speaker 4: of money.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Honeycombs came in. We used to get the extra large
- 2:54Speaker 1: yer that was so great, industrial size.
- 2:59Speaker 4: I was inspired. I don't but guess what on top
- 3:02Speaker 4: of that, guess what was sold out? Only sold out
- 3:06Speaker 4: what target target Northern California, Waldeck what malamars? They were like,
- 3:13Speaker 4: we cannot fulfill your order. Hum, like, oh god, the.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Chocolate chunks having twenty first birthday? Rory, you know what
- 3:28Speaker 1: did you think? Gang? Huh?
- 3:30Speaker 5: I loved this episode. This is one of my top ten.
- 3:34Speaker 5: I always have enjoyed this one. You have like quirky
- 3:37Speaker 5: town people. You've got some Paris, You've got some Lane,
- 3:41Speaker 5: You've got Shenanigans with Babbitt and Maury. It's great Luke
- 3:48Speaker 5: and Rory scene.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Like, I just love this episode. I think it was
- 3:51Speaker 4: a great episode. Scott you with that drink. I was
- 3:57Speaker 4: laughing so hard. And then of course Laura Life just
- 4:01Speaker 4: when she's when she finally when she finally talked to
- 4:05Speaker 4: More and is like, your drink is gross?
- 4:08Speaker 1: She said's disgusting. Yeah, yeah, I I rate this one
- 4:13Speaker 1: way up there. This is also one of my I
- 4:18Speaker 1: think top ten. I think we can call it the
- 4:20Speaker 1: top ten. Wow, easily easily top ten. It was a
- 4:25Speaker 1: joy from start to finish, and I think it was
- 4:28Speaker 1: very even very balanced in the production quality, sound quality, lighting, acting, fighting.
- 4:38Speaker 1: It was very very balanced, yes, and it had a
- 4:42Speaker 1: nice flow and it was easy to watch, and it
- 4:46Speaker 1: was easy to laugh with. I mean, it cracked me
- 4:48Speaker 1: up on several several moments. It's just it's such a
- 4:53Speaker 1: unique show. It's such it does what it does better
- 4:57Speaker 1: than any show I've ever seen. Its just it sort
- 5:00Speaker 1: of tips into the absurd with the Maury but bet stuff, yes,
- 5:04Speaker 1: with the hanging, and I mean, it's just just a
- 5:08Speaker 1: great ride. That was a great forty minutes.
- 5:11Speaker 4: The town looked amazing, The Gilmore's house looked amazing, that
- 5:15Speaker 4: party looked amazing.
- 5:17Speaker 1: This is Amy Sherman Palladino at her best. There's firing
- 5:21Speaker 1: on all cylinders, and with this ease of writing and
- 5:24Speaker 1: the ease of the humor.
- 5:26Speaker 4: And when did it air? When did it air?
- 5:28Speaker 1: Oh gosh, does anybody have that information? I don't know
- 5:32Speaker 1: the exact date.
- 5:33Speaker 4: On October twenty fifth, so right either in sweeps or
- 5:38Speaker 4: just about to be sweep. So it's like a big episode.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Very impressive episode that really played on the tension between
- 5:47Speaker 1: mother and daughter and coming back together. It was really
- 5:50Speaker 1: the kind of the riveting narrative that kept me hoping, hoping,
- 5:58Speaker 1: hoping that they were going to get back together and
- 6:00Speaker 1: have a conversation and boy, what a tease that was.
- 6:03Speaker 1: And then when they finally had the conversation, it was,
- 6:06Speaker 1: it was, it was, It was pretty glorious. But then
- 6:09Speaker 1: it was cut short and we realized with that devastating
- 6:13Speaker 1: moment at the end that life has changed, and life
- 6:16Speaker 1: moved on, and my life moves on, and we all
- 6:19Speaker 1: have to move on. And the rory we knew and
- 6:22Speaker 1: loved that was attached to lorealized hip is maybe gone forever.
- 6:26Speaker 1: And what a what a moment the show, the appeal
- 6:33Speaker 1: of the show, It hit me quite clearly that you
- 6:38Speaker 1: know this show. I don't think any other show or
- 6:42Speaker 1: when when when you do this, well this type of thing,
- 6:45Speaker 1: well this this sense of nostalgia wanting to go back
- 6:48Speaker 1: and fix your life, and we just can't do that,
- 6:52Speaker 1: but boy, if we could, it would be so sweet,
- 6:55Speaker 1: you know, that that sensation of maybe a lack of
- 6:59Speaker 1: fulfilled and a little bit of loss but with a
- 7:02Speaker 1: Wii and nostalgia all mixed in and hope, and it's
- 7:06Speaker 1: just just very powerful.
- 7:08Speaker 4: It's very very powerful.
- 7:09Speaker 1: The themes that they play.
- 7:11Speaker 4: On is that's so true, Scott, It's so true. It's
- 7:14Speaker 4: because there's so much to that conversation that begins with
- 7:19Speaker 4: Richard and Lorlai. Then Emily comes in, Lorli removes herself,
- 7:24Speaker 4: and you realize, like I couldn't figure out why are
- 7:27Speaker 4: they so hung up on sex? Like why are they
- 7:30Speaker 4: so weird? Almost? And then you realize, oh my god,
- 7:35Speaker 4: it's because of their own daughter. And I don't know
- 7:38Speaker 4: why it took me a minute to get that exactly,
- 7:42Speaker 4: and their fear and just they will do anything to
- 7:46Speaker 4: prevent that.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Right, all right? And I think we're gonna synopsize with
- 7:52Speaker 1: the new synopsisization stylings of Queen Susann Go ahead, all right?
- 7:58Speaker 5: So this is seasons episode seven, twenty one is the
- 8:01Speaker 5: Loneliest number. It aired on October twenty fifth, two thousand
- 8:05Speaker 5: and five. As Rory's twenty first birthday approaches, both Lorelai
- 8:09Speaker 5: and Rory are saddened by the fact that their ongoing
- 8:11Speaker 5: estrangement will keep them from spending the day the way
- 8:14Speaker 5: they had always planned. Richard tries to convince Laurlai to
- 8:17Speaker 5: help him with a plan to get Rory back to Yale,
- 8:20Speaker 5: but Loralai insists that Rory has to make the decision herself.
- 8:23Speaker 5: While Richard continues to worry about Rory's future, Emily throws
- 8:27Speaker 5: herself into planning an elaborate birthday party. Meanwhile, Emily and
- 8:30Speaker 5: Richard are shocked when they realize that Rory and Logan
- 8:33Speaker 5: have been having sex.
- 8:35Speaker 4: My first question is were you surprised? And I was
- 8:37Speaker 4: a little bit. I get it, But that Loralai wasn't
- 8:40Speaker 4: more into it when Richard was like, we need to
- 8:43Speaker 4: do something.
- 8:46Speaker 5: I think she was. I think she was just kind
- 8:48Speaker 5: of frustrated with Richard because she's like, this is what
- 8:50Speaker 5: I told you all along, and you guys refuse to
- 8:54Speaker 5: listen to me. So I kind of get how She's
- 8:58Speaker 5: still kind of like, this is the bed you made,
- 9:01Speaker 5: now lay in it.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so but but that does that really serve Rory? Right?
- 9:09Speaker 1: You know what I mean? In that moment, it's like, okay,
- 9:14Speaker 1: we can you know, I can beat you up in
- 9:16Speaker 1: this moment, or we can solve the problem. And another
- 9:20Speaker 1: thing I thought about this is, you know, thank god
- 9:24Speaker 1: things went awry because then we wouldn't have these dramatic
- 9:27Speaker 1: moments because these are riveting moments. And so anyway, I
- 9:33Speaker 1: just wanted to say I appreciated that she'll be in Yale,
- 9:37Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously a different show. And I know
- 9:39Speaker 1: we get some some emails about you know, why is
- 9:43Speaker 1: Scott always trying to write the show and his ideas suck?
- 9:46Speaker 1: And they might be right about that.
- 9:54Speaker 4: You know what. You know what why though, because we
- 9:57Speaker 4: take it so real and we always are analyzing it
- 10:03Speaker 4: like it's real life and these people are real. Whereas
- 10:06Speaker 4: the reason it goes in certain directions is because writers
- 10:09Speaker 4: are writing it to make it dramatic or funny or sad,
- 10:13Speaker 4: and so we're it makes sense that we're sort of
- 10:16Speaker 4: sometimes rewriting it.
- 10:18Speaker 1: But we're supposed to feel that loss. We're supposed to
- 10:21Speaker 1: get depressed. We're supposed to feel why didn't they just
- 10:25Speaker 1: leave her and Yale? And why are they doing this?
- 10:29Speaker 1: I have a better idea for the moment, but it
- 10:31Speaker 1: doesn't pay off in the longer. Where you going the longer?
- 10:33Speaker 1: So they've planned it ahead right right, they know what
- 10:36Speaker 1: they're doing. So very satisfying. But uh yeah, I thought
- 10:42Speaker 1: I thought that moment maybe was the only moment that
- 10:46Speaker 1: I kind of went, eh, you know, Loreli could be
- 10:49Speaker 1: a little more.
- 10:50Speaker 4: I thought she would be more into it.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Of a team player.
- 10:52Speaker 4: You know, Well, look, she's mad because she had a plan.
- 10:57Speaker 4: They all agreed to the plan, and then Richard is
- 10:59Speaker 4: the reason they deep ad from the plan. We understand
- 11:01Speaker 4: why he did it. Rory was so upset, he's a grandpa.
- 11:04Speaker 4: Then he comes back and says.
- 11:05Speaker 1: We need a plan, and she's but I think, I think,
- 11:09Speaker 1: I think Susanne makes a salient point that the Richard
- 11:13Speaker 1: and Emily didn't want to screw up a second time.
- 11:15Speaker 1: They were leaving nothing to chance, and they were not
- 11:18Speaker 1: going to let Laura I get in the way of that,
- 11:20Speaker 1: you know, and not their right, not their kid. But
- 11:24Speaker 1: you know, they control her with the money, they controlled
- 11:27Speaker 1: her with the guilt and all that. So I can
- 11:29Speaker 1: see why she's put off, and I can see what
- 11:33Speaker 1: and that's the beauty of it. You can, you can
- 11:35Speaker 1: you can relate to everybody's point of view totally and
- 11:38Speaker 1: and and that's the beauty of it, right.
- 11:41Speaker 5: And I think she was also pushing back against you know,
- 11:44Speaker 5: Richard's new plan is, Okay, we'll we'll delay her trust fund,
- 11:51Speaker 5: we'll buy her a car, we'll buy her a condo.
- 11:53Speaker 5: Like he's always trying to trick her, trick Rory into
- 11:57Speaker 5: doing what they want. And I think Lorlai was pushing
- 12:00Speaker 5: back against that concept because they've done it before. They
- 12:03Speaker 5: did it with that party that they only invited the
- 12:05Speaker 5: boys to and right the Yale interview, and it's like
- 12:09Speaker 5: they always result, it's the whole owner and Laurai doesn't
- 12:12Speaker 5: like that.
- 12:12Speaker 4: It's the premise of the whole show that they bought
- 12:16Speaker 4: them back, essentially by paying for Chiltern and ultimately Yale
- 12:24Speaker 4: to get to see them, which is what it is.
- 12:27Speaker 4: It's how they operate. So yes, it did land a little.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Right, And so they're attempting to have this kind of
- 12:36Speaker 1: transactional relationship with Laurai because they can't really have a
- 12:41Speaker 1: real relationship with her. To apply that same transactional relationship
- 12:45Speaker 1: to Rory, though, I think, is a mistake. But here's
- 12:47Speaker 1: the say, Yes, there's this thing. What Emily and Richard
- 12:52Speaker 1: know and what Laura I should probably know, is that
- 12:55Speaker 1: a twenty one year old does not have a fully
- 12:58Speaker 1: formed brain. This is not a full, fully aware adult
- 13:05Speaker 1: person capable of making responsible decisions because there's no long
- 13:13Speaker 1: term thinking involved or not or not enough. And I'm
- 13:16Speaker 1: not saying that's the case with everyone, and maybe Rory's
- 13:19Speaker 1: the exception and probably is, but I think from Richard
- 13:24Speaker 1: Emley's point of view, they weren't going to leave it
- 13:25Speaker 1: to chance. It's like, right, you know, how many people
- 13:28Speaker 1: have you run into in your life or read about
- 13:30Speaker 1: who said, you know, I was, I was on a
- 13:33Speaker 1: path I thought was great, and my parents just really
- 13:36Speaker 1: kind of kicked my ass about it and forced me
- 13:38Speaker 1: back on the path. And man, am I glad they did?
- 13:41Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 13:42Speaker 1: I hear that more often than you know the other
- 13:46Speaker 1: result well.
- 13:47Speaker 4: And you can tell like same idea when she says,
- 13:52Speaker 4: like put the party furniture in there and then we'll
- 13:54Speaker 4: fumigate them. Then I'll tell her there's rats. It's like
- 13:57Speaker 4: they rather than empower right a child or a grandchild
- 14:01Speaker 4: to make the right decision, they try to force and
- 14:04Speaker 4: control it right, which is why they ultimately regularly fail.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I just think of how many other ways they could
- 14:11Speaker 1: have inspired her back to Yale. Right, So if a kid,
- 14:16Speaker 1: like if your kid goes bad, if you have a
- 14:18Speaker 1: son that goes bad and he's in with bad kids,
- 14:22Speaker 1: you know, you take him, you scare him straight, You
- 14:24Speaker 1: take him to the lock up and say this is
- 14:26Speaker 1: where you're going to end up if you continue to
- 14:27Speaker 1: be And that's like a wake up call. That can
- 14:30Speaker 1: be a wake up call for a ten year old
- 14:32Speaker 1: if you just leave dark extreme. Same thing could have
- 14:35Speaker 1: been done with Rory had Richard or Emily And here
- 14:39Speaker 1: I go again, rewriting the show hate me. Maybe I'm ready.
- 14:44Speaker 1: It taken her to I don't know, a professional mixer
- 14:48Speaker 1: of college professors that inspire her, or you know, they
- 14:52Speaker 1: could have gotten in touch with some of the publishing
- 14:54Speaker 1: houses or whatever of the favorite books she's read, and
- 14:58Speaker 1: let's take her on a trip to New York and
- 14:59Speaker 1: go to Random House and Penguin. She can meet the
- 15:01Speaker 1: editors and yes, we can take her here, and they
- 15:04Speaker 1: can tell us stories about, you know, the struggles of
- 15:06Speaker 1: these great writers and their education and their relationship with
- 15:09Speaker 1: their parents. And they had struggles too, but they chose
- 15:11Speaker 1: to stay in school, and look what happened for them.
- 15:13Speaker 1: You know, this kind of thing. So there's a million
- 15:14Speaker 1: of reactions.
- 15:15Speaker 4: They could have just had another Mitcham, somebody of his caliber,
- 15:21Speaker 4: just say, hey, we all think Mitcham's kind of a turd.
- 15:24Speaker 4: Don't listen to him.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:31Speaker 4: The other thing is, don't you guys think and tell
- 15:33Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong? If Loralai, Emily and Richard would
- 15:37Speaker 4: have done the original Loralai plan. She would have gone
- 15:40Speaker 4: back to Yale, just the three of them talking to
- 15:43Speaker 4: her and saying, we want you to go back to Yale.
- 15:45Speaker 4: This is not good. The three of them could have.
- 15:48Speaker 1: Done it right, like an intervention.
- 15:50Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the original plan was good. Yeah.
- 15:54Speaker 5: I think if she had seen the three of them
- 15:57Speaker 5: actually agreeing on something, that might have made an impact
- 16:00Speaker 5: on her because she'd be like, Okay, these two parties
- 16:03Speaker 5: of people never get along. If they're coming together on this,
- 16:06Speaker 5: they must really mean it, right.
- 16:08Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a throwaway line. It was a throwaway
- 16:11Speaker 4: line in this scene too, but I laughed out loud
- 16:13Speaker 4: when she says it's freakish, but you know how like
- 16:16Speaker 4: she's talking about how Rory likes school, it's freakish.
- 16:21Speaker 1: I love the medal and all Bright scene too.
- 16:23Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was just so off.
- 16:26Speaker 1: The walk right. What it is the last thing you
- 16:30Speaker 1: would ever expect to see in Rory's bed is all Bright.
- 16:34Speaker 4: I mean it's like, wow, can you remember that at all?
- 16:39Speaker 4: Like her being around and how they ended up casting
- 16:41Speaker 4: her or like anything.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't. I I think I was there the
- 16:47Speaker 1: day she was there. But I didn't ge to meet HM
- 16:49Speaker 1: because they were in a different part of the they
- 16:51Speaker 1: were on a different sound.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Stage, right, because it was just the two of them.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I just remember that day. There was
- 16:58Speaker 1: some secret service, I think, and I was going to
- 17:01Speaker 1: say it was kind of a big deal, and Madeline
- 17:04Speaker 1: all rights here, and you know, I think I was
- 17:06Speaker 1: going to lunch and they said, well, you want to
- 17:08Speaker 1: go over and watch something, and I say, no, I'm hungry.
- 17:10Speaker 1: I want to go to lunch.
- 17:12Speaker 4: I was trying to look in in my book. They
- 17:16Speaker 4: had the authors on to see if they knew I
- 17:21Speaker 4: don't know, Susan, do you know anything about the cat?
- 17:24Speaker 5: They do not. Yeah, I remember there was also some
- 17:28Speaker 5: political figures appeared in that episode where they were they
- 17:31Speaker 5: had the summer program in Washington, right right, right right,
- 17:35Speaker 5: So I don't know either Amy or Dan or somebody
- 17:38Speaker 5: must have had some kind of you know, political connections.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Well, no, I think everybody's a fan, and these people
- 17:44Speaker 1: all all have representation in Hollywood. You know, we're speaking engagements,
- 17:50Speaker 1: they'll have raps, and everybody's a fan of the show.
- 17:53Speaker 1: They love the show was so Madeline probably watched the
- 17:57Speaker 1: show with her daughter or her granddaughter or whatever.
- 18:01Speaker 4: Okay, here's what I found out. Political junkies Amy and
- 18:05Speaker 4: Dan would ring up the casting office and rattle off
- 18:09Speaker 4: a few names of high profile politicos she'd like to
- 18:12Speaker 4: see on the show. Madeline Albright was one of them,
- 18:17Speaker 4: so they thought it was worth a shot, threw it
- 18:20Speaker 4: out there. Yeah, and Madeline Albright's assistant ring back almost
- 18:24Speaker 4: immediately saying she would love to do it, right, wow, right,
- 18:29Speaker 4: And that is from the Gilmore Girls companion book.
- 18:34Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you she did a pretty darn
- 18:36Speaker 1: good job.
- 18:37Speaker 4: I thought so too.
- 18:38Speaker 1: And on the acting front, for somebody who is not
- 18:40Speaker 1: a trained actor to come in there and do a
- 18:43Speaker 1: scene with somebody as sophisticated at that point as Alexis
- 18:47Speaker 1: Bodell was with her with her chops, right, I mean Alexis,
- 18:51Speaker 1: Alexis got really good and she was always good to
- 18:56Speaker 1: begin with, naturally good and naturally instinctual and never pushed
- 19:00Speaker 1: anything but h man, I mean, she just kept getting
- 19:04Speaker 1: better and she was great in.
- 19:05Speaker 4: This and recreating that scene. So it had to have
- 19:08Speaker 4: the feel and the tone to let us all go,
- 19:12Speaker 4: oh my gosh, because if you can imagine when people
- 19:15Speaker 4: saw this, the first time. They hadn't necessarily seen all
- 19:18Speaker 4: the episodes many many times because it's in its first run,
- 19:22Speaker 4: so it had to be iconic enough. People were reminiscent enough.
- 19:28Speaker 1: But people were dvring it and they had that yeah.
- 19:31Speaker 4: And DVDs, but they weren't. It wasn't the same. You
- 19:34Speaker 4: weren't watching things over and over and over watching.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they'd wear them out. They'd have to buy
- 19:43Speaker 1: new DVDs because they.
- 19:44Speaker 4: Wear before the before burning to the dvs. Before that scene, though,
- 19:50Speaker 4: I did chuckle at you and Laura Lai and the
- 19:55Speaker 4: dollhouse and she's really going with her thing as you
- 19:58Speaker 4: guys tend to do, and you're going with this thing
- 20:02Speaker 4: is so heavy? Is your father a Hercules? And then
- 20:06Speaker 4: at the very end we get the payoff.
- 20:08Speaker 1: The time very nice, It was no no, But I
- 20:12Speaker 1: loved how Luke treated her and fixed her hair and
- 20:17Speaker 1: touched her hair, kissed her on the forehead and just
- 20:21Speaker 1: you know, was there for her. I love that kind
- 20:25Speaker 1: I love that little detail. I love that kind of
- 20:27Speaker 1: stuff me too.
- 20:28Speaker 4: And is that you? Is that you? Or is that
- 20:32Speaker 4: a director?
- 20:33Speaker 1: So that's not no, that's me making making the relationship believable.
- 20:39Speaker 1: It's what what do you do to suspend the audience
- 20:44Speaker 1: disbelief that you're in a real committed relationship with this person?
- 20:48Speaker 1: How do you behave in this situation? How does this
- 20:52Speaker 1: character behave in the situation? So yeah, I felt we
- 20:55Speaker 1: really nailed it up. And by the way she walks away,
- 21:02Speaker 1: by the way the top comes off, perfect, it was
- 21:05Speaker 1: a perfect scene.
- 21:07Speaker 4: Perfect are Yeah, it was good fun.
- 21:10Speaker 5: Little inconsistency was when she walks away and she says,
- 21:13Speaker 5: I'm gonna go order a pizza. But the reason she
- 21:16Speaker 5: went to the door in the first place is because
- 21:18Speaker 5: she had already ordered the pizza and the doorbell rang
- 21:21Speaker 5: and she thought it was her pizza coming, but it
- 21:22Speaker 5: was Richard.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Sooy, this is why you're a legend. You got you.
- 21:31Speaker 4: And I like the four oh three am, four oh
- 21:34Speaker 4: three am. I like I like how they've done that
- 21:37Speaker 4: as they've been apart. We've seen her version, but they're
- 21:43Speaker 4: in parallel. Yeah, yeah, and I think that's that's nice.
- 21:47Speaker 4: So in a timely manner, we're just a little we
- 21:53Speaker 4: almost had it perfect. That it's Halloween, so we all
- 21:58Speaker 4: just had Halloween. Now it's Gilmour Halloween. They're they're talking
- 22:02Speaker 4: about she's in town. The town looks amazing.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Oh I roared when when when Bet came on screen,
- 22:08Speaker 1: but Bet and Morey came on screen, and the can,
- 22:10Speaker 1: the candy, the apples hanging off the trees. You're going
- 22:13Speaker 1: to do that again, Sugar, really thinking it's not It's
- 22:17Speaker 1: not really that scary, is it. You're gonna do anything.
- 22:21Speaker 1: She's just Bet feeling sorry for like, you know, you're
- 22:25Speaker 1: a little weird. I feel a little sorry for it.
- 22:27Speaker 1: It's not scary, but we're gonna go do our big
- 22:29Speaker 1: production of hanging.
- 22:30Speaker 4: We can go out of order, just because the hell makes.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Me laugh so hard is that she is such a
- 22:38Speaker 1: great actress.
- 22:39Speaker 4: Totally, that scenems great. And then the scene again, so
- 22:43Speaker 4: you see them with the groceries and the whole thing.
- 22:44Speaker 4: Then the scene where they're in the yard and you
- 22:46Speaker 4: actually see what they do amazing, And then I really
- 22:52Speaker 4: thought it was hilarious her idea, and obviously we get
- 22:55Speaker 4: the great payoff at the end about the sausage links.
- 22:58Speaker 4: But her explained, it's just so good.
- 23:04Speaker 1: This is some of the best Luke and Laurel I stuff.
- 23:08Speaker 1: It was good. It was so strong.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Well, and I love another line.
- 23:12Speaker 1: That go feed your psychotic dog.
- 23:17Speaker 4: And there's another throwaway line where you're making the chicken
- 23:21Speaker 4: and you're talking about everything, and she says, will you
- 23:23Speaker 4: marry me?
- 23:24Speaker 3: Like it's just those scenes are so cute.
- 23:29Speaker 4: I want to do a skin. I'll bring you out
- 23:33Speaker 4: and you're like, okay, okay, no way.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Not great banter, just great banter, isn't it?
- 23:40Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 23:41Speaker 1: And isn't it so great? How she drives that stuff,
- 23:44Speaker 1: How Lauren just drives it and drives it and drives
- 23:47Speaker 1: it and drives it and you can always rely on her.
- 23:49Speaker 1: That's why it was so easy to just sort of
- 23:51Speaker 1: hang back and throw stuff at her because you knew
- 23:53Speaker 1: she was going to be there, you knew her timing
- 23:56Speaker 1: was going to be there. It's just wonderful. I really
- 23:59Speaker 1: miss doing things with her. She's she's terrific.
- 24:02Speaker 4: She's you know, I kind of want her to, like work,
- 24:04Speaker 4: get a show.
- 24:06Speaker 1: I thought she's had a show.
- 24:08Speaker 4: She was on Zoe's Extraordinary Playlists then and then like
- 24:13Speaker 4: a singing show.
- 24:15Speaker 1: But isn't she doing Mighty Ducks? Or is that over? Now?
- 24:19Speaker 4: That was only two seasons?
- 24:20Speaker 1: Was it two seasons?
- 24:22Speaker 4: One with Emilio Estevez, one with Josh Deamel.
- 24:24Speaker 1: How long ago did that end? A year ago? Two
- 24:27Speaker 1: years ago?
- 24:27Speaker 4: Like a year two years?
- 24:29Speaker 1: Okay?
- 24:31Speaker 4: A show show, like a show that we all watch,
- 24:35Speaker 4: Sex and the City.
- 24:38Speaker 1: Well, they're hard to come by, you know, they are,
- 24:41Speaker 1: they are, And you know what, she's probably at a
- 24:43Speaker 1: point where she wants to take a little break. I
- 24:47Speaker 1: mean she's been working NonStop since two thousand, right, this
- 24:51Speaker 1: is twenty three years. She's like, work, work, work, work, work,
- 24:54Speaker 1: maybe a year or two in between. But yeah, it's
- 24:56Speaker 1: it's it's a lot, you know, you really you throw
- 24:59Speaker 1: yourself into these shows. It's a lot, It's yeah.
- 25:03Speaker 4: So right, we think this is hard. One hour a week?
- 25:07Speaker 4: How about two hours a week?
- 25:09Speaker 1: How aboutized fabulous diner show?
- 25:12Speaker 4: I'm into it? Oh my gosh, I'm so into it.
- 25:16Speaker 1: Huh. I think you think we could carry our own show?
- 25:19Speaker 1: How about a sitcom in front of a live audience?
- 25:22Speaker 4: For sure? I wouldn't be mad at any of it. Yeah,
- 25:26Speaker 4: I'm into it. So the thing that, because you know,
- 25:29Speaker 4: we're talking about sort of parallels, I guess this is
- 25:33Speaker 4: a loose parallel, but we're really starting to see Emily
- 25:39Speaker 4: being Emily and Rory not really totally on board.
- 25:44Speaker 6: But that.
- 25:47Speaker 4: Like the birthday party. I like Logan, no whisking plans.
- 25:53Speaker 4: I like Logan in this episode, I know everyone.
- 25:56Speaker 5: I have a small red flag on that scene with
- 25:59Speaker 5: Logan and Emily and ri so how I find it
- 26:04Speaker 5: hard to believe that Logan didn't know when Rory's birthday
- 26:06Speaker 5: was agree.
- 26:09Speaker 4: I thought that was weird.
- 26:10Speaker 5: They've been dating for months now. How would they not
- 26:13Speaker 5: know one each other's I don't know, small.
- 26:15Speaker 4: Very no good good good note. It's true. I kind
- 26:18Speaker 4: of thought we're and Logan being Logan, he would have
- 26:22Speaker 4: had something totally planned, like he had a whole party
- 26:25Speaker 4: planned for her. When she walked out arrested, right, I'm like, dude,
- 26:30Speaker 4: he's gonna have a twenty first birthday plan.
- 26:32Speaker 1: But Emily's just panicked, you know, she's she's in desperation mode.
- 26:41Speaker 4: I love when she says, back to what you were
- 26:43Speaker 4: doing and then she walks out and Rory says, hey,
- 26:47Speaker 4: Grandma says right, quite comfortable together, Like I'm not. You're like, okay,
- 26:56Speaker 4: this is taking a back.
- 26:57Speaker 1: To point out Emily had some outstanding.
- 27:01Speaker 4: Looks, great fashion.
- 27:03Speaker 1: You don't want to steal your thunder on the fashion side.
- 27:05Speaker 4: No, please, I'm happy you called it out.
- 27:08Speaker 1: That was the nice blouse, and then Rory had the
- 27:12Speaker 1: nice Hartford zoo. Yes, come on, man, there's some goods
- 27:19Speaker 1: fashion going on.
- 27:20Speaker 4: So I would say one of the things that I
- 27:22Speaker 4: find I don't know what the word is, but I
- 27:26Speaker 4: was so jarred by Lorali and Digger in bed. But
- 27:29Speaker 4: I'm never jarred by Luke and Loralai in bed or
- 27:33Speaker 4: Logan and Rory in bed.
- 27:34Speaker 6: I'm always like, so I'm just saying, I know, I know, no, no,
- 27:42Speaker 6: it's it's it's nice these two.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Logan has turned out to be a pleasant surprise, you know,
- 27:49Speaker 1: he's he's really turned into kind of kind of a mensch, right, Yeah.
- 27:54Speaker 4: I love him. I know everyone hates him, but.
- 27:56Speaker 1: Why, I don't know. He's a good guy. He's not
- 28:00Speaker 1: a bad guy. He's a good guy and he loves
- 28:02Speaker 1: her and he he's just struggling with his dad. You know,
- 28:06Speaker 1: he's the poor little rich boy Zac line. So you're rich. Huh.
- 28:14Speaker 4: The party's cue. But to get to that one, the
- 28:18Speaker 4: cake tasting, I should not watch the show hungry. I
- 28:21Speaker 4: was literally like, what all those cakes? And then I'm
- 28:27Speaker 4: talking about sushi?
- 28:29Speaker 1: I know, right, It's like every time you watch Goodfellas,
- 28:33Speaker 1: I get so hungry Italian food. It's like the cooking
- 28:38Speaker 1: scenes in prison. Wonderful stuff. Yeah, good, good stuff. Where
- 28:44Speaker 1: are we now in the episode?
- 28:45Speaker 4: Well, so we went out, so we bounced around a
- 28:48Speaker 4: little bit. So we get the cake tasting and who's
- 28:50Speaker 4: she gonna invite Lane Paris, et cetera. There was a
- 28:53Speaker 4: little fringe there with Emily but.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Oh, because she kept saying that your Asian friend.
- 29:01Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, so I don't know if she
- 29:04Speaker 4: if it's meant to be cringe or if it's.
- 29:07Speaker 1: It defines the generation.
- 29:10Speaker 4: Yeah, yea. Then we do all the Halloween bit which
- 29:15Speaker 4: we talked about. Then the Porsche, which the Porsche. Sorry
- 29:20Speaker 4: to be that girl, but they're so cool driving up
- 29:22Speaker 4: in the Porsche. And that's when Richard comes to the window,
- 29:25Speaker 4: and I'm just.
- 29:26Speaker 1: Like, that was really kind of creepily funny with his smile. Hi,
- 29:31Speaker 1: I didn't interrupt anything.
- 29:34Speaker 4: He goes back into Emily and calls it necking and
- 29:36Speaker 4: that she's having relations with that boy. Do you think?
- 29:40Speaker 4: Do you really think?
- 29:42Speaker 2: God?
- 29:42Speaker 1: Man, it was so good. It was so good. Richard
- 29:46Speaker 1: just appears.
- 29:48Speaker 4: It was good. It's all amusing it's very grandparenting.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Oh ma.
- 29:53Speaker 4: Then we go to suki in the kitchen with all
- 29:55Speaker 4: the different sausages.
- 29:56Speaker 1: Oh, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
- 30:01Speaker 4: Which was good. And then the invitation came and she
- 30:03Speaker 4: was sort of upset by it. I mean, it's moving
- 30:05Speaker 4: this This episode really moved along the US.
- 30:08Speaker 1: It really has some good connective tissue.
- 30:12Speaker 4: Yeah. Then the scene with the first she gets to
- 30:17Speaker 4: have hot roast and the whole thing and she's like,
- 30:21Speaker 4: am I dying? And then she goes in.
- 30:25Speaker 1: You know, they Emily and Richard put Justin Off on
- 30:28Speaker 1: it to make it obvious that they were trying to
- 30:30Speaker 1: clear the decks here for the the could be the features.
- 30:36Speaker 4: The whole script was so, I hear, you have a boyfriend,
- 30:39Speaker 4: Virtue is a gift? Want to give that gift? That's gone?
- 30:45Speaker 4: I have no gift. And then you meet the right
- 30:48Speaker 4: person and you have no gift to give, and then
- 30:50Speaker 4: she says, oh, dear, do you have to give him
- 30:54Speaker 4: a sweater? That scene was so hilarious.
- 30:59Speaker 1: It was good.
- 31:00Speaker 5: The two of them were great together.
- 31:03Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, so I love it all. And then Emily's
- 31:10Speaker 4: party planning just so much party planning and we've got
- 31:13Speaker 4: the sushi and the carving station, beef not chicken, the
- 31:17Speaker 4: past apps, I mean, the planning. I love it.
- 31:20Speaker 1: M h yeah, all good, all good.
- 31:24Speaker 4: Yeah. And then the poolhouse is full of all that
- 31:27Speaker 4: crap and you start to.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Go Emily, work in her game, work in her game
- 31:35Speaker 1: plan right, Emily just forcing Rory into the bedroom right
- 31:42Speaker 1: next to Richard that they can keep tabs on her
- 31:46Speaker 1: an end the sexing, the end of the sexing.
- 31:51Speaker 4: The recurring mentions of the chocolate box. Also just we're
- 31:56Speaker 4: so good, just she thinks chocolate boxes grow on trees.
- 32:00Speaker 4: Chocolate boxes do not throw on trees. Like and then
- 32:04Speaker 4: the call. I love the scene with the phone call
- 32:06Speaker 4: and you're in the diner with Laura line she's first
- 32:09Speaker 4: of all, the whip cream on the chocolate chip pancakes.
- 32:12Speaker 4: You're like, I'm gonna be sick that.
- 32:15Speaker 1: That was a really funny first line off camera watching
- 32:18Speaker 1: or do that. That's gonna make you sick. You're gonna
- 32:21Speaker 1: get sick. It was like Luke in a nutshell, right.
- 32:26Speaker 4: And then the call and you're like the ghost.
- 32:28Speaker 1: I love the relationship. It's just so open. They can
- 32:31Speaker 1: say anything they want you.
- 32:34Speaker 4: And then I love the call, and you're the go
- 32:36Speaker 4: between and you're kind of it's almost like your tone
- 32:39Speaker 4: was softer than her tone, so it's landing a little
- 32:42Speaker 4: better on the lie. And then yeah, and then it.
- 32:45Speaker 5: Was such a clever way to get them back together
- 32:48Speaker 5: because Rory could have just called Laura Lai directly, right,
- 32:51Speaker 5: she didn't. She chose to call the diner. And then
- 32:53Speaker 5: you have like that Luke element, and Luke is like,
- 32:56Speaker 5: oh my gosh, she said hell, and like, I just
- 32:57Speaker 5: thought it was a really clever way to.
- 33:00Speaker 1: And it's a way again, it's a way for lorealized
- 33:03Speaker 1: character to be excited because she can't be excited on
- 33:06Speaker 1: the direct phone call, but she can be excited by proxy.
- 33:10Speaker 4: Yeah, and she called by proxy. That's exactly right, right,
- 33:13Speaker 4: and you were able to sort of tone it down
- 33:15Speaker 4: just enough that it sounded right.
- 33:19Speaker 1: He wanted to get them back together.
- 33:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I want a chocolate box. I want a chocolate right,
- 33:23Speaker 4: right right? What is it? Chocolate box? By the way,
- 33:26Speaker 4: is it like a.
- 33:28Speaker 5: A box made out of chocolate?
- 33:30Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Apparently filled with high end chocolates. Sounds wonderful.
- 33:39Speaker 4: So yeah, I would like a chocolate box myself, then
- 33:43Speaker 4: then a little bit more of the four h three
- 33:45Speaker 4: A M see a little more of that, and then
- 33:49Speaker 4: the party. And it's interesting. I actually was surprised that
- 33:55Speaker 4: Richard didn't even fake it, that he really just bailed
- 34:02Speaker 4: the party. I thought, you know, hmmm, I don't know.
- 34:06Speaker 5: I mean, it shows there was there was really a
- 34:08Speaker 5: disconnect between Richard and Emily, because Richard is starting to
- 34:11Speaker 5: see the flaws in their plans, but Emily is still
- 34:15Speaker 5: liked like she's doing the daar thing. She even says
- 34:21Speaker 5: like there's nothing wrong until the sex thing came up.
- 34:25Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong, and so Emily is like perfectly happy
- 34:27Speaker 5: with the way things are. So it really showed how
- 34:31Speaker 5: Richard and Emily hadn't really come together yet on that issue.
- 34:34Speaker 1: And you can't imagine Richard failing at executing a plan, right, Yeah,
- 34:40Speaker 1: he's so strategic and he's so smart and he's sow
- 34:42Speaker 1: this and it's he's accepting defeats. So it's a crushing
- 34:47Speaker 1: blow to him. So yeah, I know, I buy it.
- 34:50Speaker 1: I buy it. You know. I want to throw a
- 34:51Speaker 1: flag on the party. I want to throw a flag
- 34:53Speaker 1: on the party. One of the entrances, the second time
- 34:58Speaker 1: the maid open the door and let that couple and
- 35:01Speaker 1: they were holding some kind of silver wrapped gift or something.
- 35:04Speaker 1: They didn't even stop and acknowledge Emily that the extras
- 35:08Speaker 1: just sort of walked right in.
- 35:10Speaker 4: Oh, they don't even say hello, they.
- 35:11Speaker 1: Don't even make eye They kind of make eye contact her,
- 35:13Speaker 1: but and she said, hello, it's the Klingman's or something,
- 35:17Speaker 1: and they just kind of motor right byer. I just stop. Boy,
- 35:20Speaker 1: they needed to shoot another take, yeah, to make it
- 35:24Speaker 1: a little more believable. But that's the only flag I
- 35:26Speaker 1: have on the park.
- 35:28Speaker 4: I had a little bit there was some confusion at
- 35:31Speaker 4: the door. Yeah, yeah, Like I was like, oh, the
- 35:35Speaker 4: door's hectic. Yeah, I had.
- 35:38Speaker 5: I had a flag on when that first couple walks
- 35:41Speaker 5: up to Emily and the woman says, oh, I'm sorry,
- 35:43Speaker 5: we're a little bit early, and then Emily like walks
- 35:45Speaker 5: away from them and makes a snide comment. But there
- 35:48Speaker 5: were the place was already full of people like they were.
- 35:51Speaker 5: They were at the bar getting their drinks, they were
- 35:53Speaker 5: sitting down eating food. So I don't know why the
- 35:56Speaker 5: people weren't early. Everybody else was already there.
- 35:58Speaker 1: It was kind of a little too populated that. But
- 36:00Speaker 1: those lines are yeah, yeah, yeah, those lines were great.
- 36:03Speaker 1: I mean disgusting, right.
- 36:07Speaker 4: They should have brought a sleeping back and.
- 36:09Speaker 1: Just bring sleep and to sleepover last night.
- 36:16Speaker 4: The drink the gross pink and taste pink.
- 36:21Speaker 1: That's my favorite line. Drink the drink, drink, the drinking
- 36:26Speaker 1: that Yeah, timing was perfect, great gag.
- 36:32Speaker 4: And then I like the sweetness but yet awkwardness of
- 36:37Speaker 4: when Lorelei sees Rory trying so hard Hay birthday girl,
- 36:42Speaker 4: and like, you know, Paris knows the whole situation, but
- 36:46Speaker 4: it's just awkward but sweet and also potential. I was like,
- 36:54Speaker 4: there's potential, this could be things could be getting.
- 36:58Speaker 1: It was a real real tease. Yeah, I wanted Tom
- 37:02Speaker 1: back together too, But in what form she What would
- 37:08Speaker 1: have made you happy? Amy would have made you happy
- 37:12Speaker 1: she was back at Yale? Would it have made you
- 37:15Speaker 1: happy if she moved back in with Lorelei? What scenario
- 37:18Speaker 1: would have made you happy? What are the fans hoping for?
- 37:21Speaker 1: What are they clamoring for?
- 37:23Speaker 4: I asked such a good question because I'm sort of
- 37:26Speaker 4: pleased with the progress we're making. I don't look at
- 37:29Speaker 4: this as a negative at all. I feel like we're
- 37:32Speaker 4: making a lot of progress. I feel like Emily and
- 37:34Speaker 4: Richard are definitely setting themselves up for failure, like it's
- 37:40Speaker 4: gonna blow up soon enough.
- 37:43Speaker 1: You know. I just had a thought. What we're watching
- 37:48Speaker 1: now and probably season six and seven should have been
- 37:51Speaker 1: the episodes, the Netflix episodes. I still think, and this
- 37:56Speaker 1: may sound a little far afield or controversial, but I
- 38:02Speaker 1: think getting her off to college was hard for the audience.
- 38:08Speaker 1: It was hard for me to break those two up
- 38:11Speaker 1: because that's the core of the show, right He's toured together.
- 38:15Speaker 1: We count on their banner every single week in those
- 38:21Speaker 1: sets in the diner, in their house, in the gazebo,
- 38:25Speaker 1: and around the town at Babets, at MS Patty's, at Dozy's.
- 38:30Speaker 1: We want them together. To get her off to Yale,
- 38:34Speaker 1: that was a tough one. I remember I chafed at that,
- 38:38Speaker 1: but then it turned out to be this really great
- 38:40Speaker 1: thing and it shut me up because it was just like, oh,
- 38:43Speaker 1: that works. They can be on calls, they can visit
- 38:45Speaker 1: each other on weekends. That's fine. It's all working for me.
- 38:48Speaker 1: So it took on a whole energy and it kind
- 38:51Speaker 1: of expanded the universe of the show. But this dropping
- 38:57Speaker 1: out of Yale and moving into Richard. I think I
- 39:01Speaker 1: don't know, and now I understand, even though this episode
- 39:05Speaker 1: was a delight to behold, I don't know if if
- 39:09Speaker 1: it was a good move to to drop her out
- 39:12Speaker 1: of Yale, you know what I mean. I'm just gonna
- 39:15Speaker 1: say that.
- 39:15Speaker 4: Right because it took so much for us to get
- 39:17Speaker 4: used to her being there.
- 39:18Speaker 1: Correct, now that was that was a big flex uh
- 39:24Speaker 1: to lift that and we got settled in and now
- 39:28Speaker 1: we got to do it again, which I maybe is
- 39:30Speaker 1: the secret of drama. I don't know, but it's like, wow,
- 39:34Speaker 1: now they're not Now she's not in Yale. None of
- 39:36Speaker 1: the dreams are coming true. It seems like a declining
- 39:40Speaker 1: yield curve. Right. If we're gonna speak in charts, like
- 39:48Speaker 1: what are we getting out of this? It's like what
- 39:51Speaker 1: what we invested in? And what's the payoff? Here? Where's
- 39:54Speaker 1: the payoff? And you can give us great episodes based
- 39:58Speaker 1: on all this dysfunction and all this declining yield curve,
- 40:02Speaker 1: but where's the ultimate path? Where's this going? So I
- 40:05Speaker 1: think that's maybe the reason the fans have a problem
- 40:08Speaker 1: with season six and season seven. And I'm beginning to
- 40:12Speaker 1: see their point I'm actually being to see their point
- 40:14Speaker 1: of view.
- 40:15Speaker 5: Yeah, what were you saying, Susan, I was going to
- 40:18Speaker 5: see This episode really is kind of a turning point
- 40:20Speaker 5: because from the beginning of season six to this point,
- 40:23Speaker 5: it's it's been like a chug uphill, like how long
- 40:27Speaker 5: is she going to stay away from Yale? And then
- 40:29Speaker 5: we had the Baptism episode where she connects with Lorelei again,
- 40:33Speaker 5: but it doesn't go very well. And so this episode
- 40:36Speaker 5: we finally made some progress where she's reconnecting with Lorali.
- 40:39Speaker 5: It's a generally positive experience, and so now we start
- 40:42Speaker 5: to think, Okay, once she makes amends with laurele I,
- 40:47Speaker 5: that's going to get us more on the path to
- 40:50Speaker 5: maybe getting her back to Yale and we can get
- 40:52Speaker 5: back to where we're all more comfortable.
- 40:55Speaker 1: So maybe it's maybe it's just a fan preference of
- 41:00Speaker 1: whether they want the banter and the comedy more than
- 41:03Speaker 1: they want the dramatics. Okay, maybe that's where a lot
- 41:09Speaker 1: of the fan base falls on the side of can
- 41:13Speaker 1: we just have these two back together making us laugh
- 41:15Speaker 1: and making us feel good and have that connection and
- 41:19Speaker 1: have that hope. Yeah, this can last forever, even though
- 41:23Speaker 1: we know it's not gonna last forever. It can't last forever,
- 41:25Speaker 1: but it's television, for God's sake, It's television, and you
- 41:29Speaker 1: can do that on television.
- 41:31Speaker 4: Is it possible that the fans, all of us fans,
- 41:35Speaker 4: h just get twisted when the characters don't act like
- 41:41Speaker 4: we expect them to act, or we think that they
- 41:44Speaker 4: should act like.
- 41:47Speaker 1: Well, the writing, the writing is so good most of
- 41:50Speaker 1: the time that the Palatinas can get away with anything,
- 41:53Speaker 1: right m hm, no, darn under sure entertaining, But then
- 41:57Speaker 1: it's like, what is happening with the narratives? What's happening
- 42:00Speaker 1: with all these themes that were established and now they're
- 42:04Speaker 1: just broken apart into a million pieces, and how do
- 42:07Speaker 1: we get them back together? So that's also useful as
- 42:10Speaker 1: a dramatist, but for comedic purposes and for just plain old,
- 42:16Speaker 1: good old, feel good purposes, I think it's working against
- 42:20Speaker 1: the show. I think maybe that's what the fan base
- 42:25Speaker 1: is chafing at season six because of these reasons. What
- 42:31Speaker 1: do you think?
- 42:33Speaker 5: I think that the first four seasons there's a certain
- 42:38Speaker 5: feeling about them that goes away in the second half
- 42:44Speaker 5: of the series. And so this episode, for me, at
- 42:47Speaker 5: least kind of hints at that the town feeling and
- 42:51Speaker 5: that kind of the warm, fuzzy Gilmore feeling, you know, visually,
- 42:57Speaker 5: it's fall, it's Halloween, and so I think I totally
- 43:03Speaker 5: just lost my train of thought. But I think people
- 43:06Speaker 5: definitely feel like in the second half of the show
- 43:10Speaker 5: they're missing that warm, fuzzy feeling that was so prevalent
- 43:14Speaker 5: in the first half of the show.
- 43:16Speaker 1: There's there's there's so much more hope in the first
- 43:19Speaker 1: four or five seasons than the tail end. Right, the
- 43:22Speaker 1: hope seems to be waning. It all seems to be
- 43:25Speaker 1: sort of disintegrating before our eyes. The dreams are fading,
- 43:29Speaker 1: the dreams aren't being realized, and it's just it's you know,
- 43:32Speaker 1: it's that, it's sort of that it's kind of a
- 43:34Speaker 1: natural dramatic arc, you know, and other and some of
- 43:39Speaker 1: my favorite films that I that that I have, that
- 43:44Speaker 1: I watched over and over and over again deal with
- 43:47Speaker 1: the It's sort of like the Rise and the Fall.
- 43:50Speaker 1: It's like that up and down.
- 43:56Speaker 4: I think the thing that they hate about season six
- 44:00Speaker 4: m it's not yet it's in one or two.
- 44:05Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'm taking my cans off. I'm taking the cancer.
- 44:09Speaker 4: No, you don't have to. You don't have to because
- 44:11Speaker 4: I won't reveal it. But my gut feeling is the thing.
- 44:16Speaker 4: And I actually, when I watched it the first and
- 44:19Speaker 4: second time, was not as upset by this thing coming
- 44:23Speaker 4: as other people were in R for Me Season six. Though.
- 44:28Speaker 4: The reason it gets so dragged is because of what's coming.
- 44:32Speaker 4: I think in two much Okay, I don't think we're
- 44:37Speaker 4: quite there.
- 44:38Speaker 1: I will contact an attorney and I will get back
- 44:41Speaker 1: to you.
- 44:41Speaker 4: I'm really interested in the way Scott reacts to what's coming.
- 44:49Speaker 4: I think that's what everybody wants to see. I think that, yeah,
- 44:52Speaker 4: there's going to be a lot of interest in seeing
- 44:56Speaker 4: how you feel about it, because yeah, god, oh god yeah,
- 45:01Speaker 4: And if you are.
- 45:02Speaker 1: Like WT, there's a high likelihood of a couple of w.
- 45:10Speaker 4: T all right, a couple a couple more things before
- 45:14Speaker 4: a couple more things before we end this. I actually,
- 45:16Speaker 4: first of all, everyone, when you're like, what's.
- 45:18Speaker 1: The da r oh, that was great.
- 45:22Speaker 4: And when Laura la I says, oh, she runs around
- 45:25Speaker 4: with the bad girls, I actually laughed out loud. And
- 45:28Speaker 4: she taught us about kilpen poppers and buffalo wings. But
- 45:34Speaker 4: the most special moment for me in this episode is
- 45:38Speaker 4: two things. One we've sort of talked about in the truck.
- 45:40Speaker 4: You can pull sausage links out of me. But when
- 45:43Speaker 4: Rory says, this is my soon to be stepfather, and
- 45:47Speaker 4: when you give the necklace that was your mother's, it's like.
- 45:51Speaker 1: Wow, right, right, finally a scene between those two that's
- 45:56Speaker 1: tender and sweet, right.
- 45:58Speaker 4: And and what we want. That's what we are used
- 46:01Speaker 4: to between them, that's what we want. And so I
- 46:05Speaker 4: thought that was very very sweet with the juxtaposition of
- 46:09Speaker 4: the not sweet scene when Emily sees the engagement ring
- 46:15Speaker 4: that tracks also to the characters, but it was just like, oh,
- 46:22Speaker 4: I guess congratulations are in order, Like it's just so yeah.
- 46:28Speaker 1: I thought. I thought Kelly Bishop was just outstanding in
- 46:33Speaker 1: this episode. Ed Herman outstanding in that scene in his
- 46:40Speaker 1: study gut wrenching, just gut wrenching, you means when being
- 46:45Speaker 1: and avoiding the party forty.
- 46:47Speaker 4: Thousand dollars Sex House, and Emily says, I was on
- 46:56Speaker 4: board to go with the plan. So that was interesting too.
- 46:59Speaker 4: That really was Richard that pivoted from the plan. We
- 47:02Speaker 4: understand it. I understand it. His granddaughter was just like.
- 47:08Speaker 1: She got insulted, you know, Emily got insulted when Richard
- 47:12Speaker 1: was describing what she exactly she does it. What Rory's
- 47:15Speaker 1: doing now is right, right, just so much more potential
- 47:20Speaker 1: than that, you know, isn't isn't he isn't exactly wrong? Right?
- 47:25Speaker 1: But why, you know, why say something like that in
- 47:28Speaker 1: front of your wife, who, yeah, he justly supported and
- 47:34Speaker 1: yeah been you know, the champion of her husband all
- 47:37Speaker 1: these years and has made their lives fly. Yeah, not
- 47:42Speaker 1: getting the credit in the crucial moment, which is kind of.
- 47:45Speaker 4: The last ten minutes of the episode is so it's
- 47:49Speaker 4: just amazing. I mean, the episode was great leading up
- 47:51Speaker 4: to it, but it was lighter and fun and all
- 47:54Speaker 4: the things, and then you get this last ten minutes
- 47:56Speaker 4: where you're like wow.
- 47:58Speaker 1: Wow, wow, hmmm. The cake cutting was devastating.
- 48:02Speaker 4: It was so sad.
- 48:04Speaker 1: I just wrote sad because here's Rory entering this world,
- 48:08Speaker 1: being completely celebrated by this world where she doesn't necessarily
- 48:15Speaker 1: feel like she belongs, yeah, and her mother knowing she
- 48:19Speaker 1: doesn't belong, And it's gut wrenching to watch that.
- 48:23Speaker 4: I wanted her so badly to be like mom, Mom,
- 48:27Speaker 4: come up here.
- 48:27Speaker 3: Mom.
- 48:28Speaker 1: That's like watching somebody you love stuck in a you know,
- 48:33Speaker 1: a raging river and you can't save them, and there
- 48:37Speaker 1: they are, you know, and I'm glad they left. And
- 48:41Speaker 1: I'm so glad that she said let's get out of here.
- 48:44Speaker 1: And he was like.
- 48:44Speaker 4: Yeah, and he says, exactly the right thing. You can
- 48:48Speaker 4: pull sausages out of me, yeah, which is the same
- 48:51Speaker 4: thing we've seen consistently from Luke, like I've got your back.
- 48:55Speaker 4: That's why. Look, I know we all had the argument
- 48:58Speaker 4: about it, but that's why she proposed. This is the
- 49:01Speaker 4: whole thing. She realizes, like this guy continually as my back,
- 49:07Speaker 4: this is so strong, is so puts me first, over
- 49:11Speaker 4: and over and over again.
- 49:14Speaker 5: Well, that's what I loved about Luke in this episode
- 49:16Speaker 5: was that he managed to support both of them, like
- 49:19Speaker 5: he supported Rory and he supported Lorlai, but he managed
- 49:23Speaker 5: to do it without taking sides, which I really enjoyed.
- 49:28Speaker 5: So I thought this was a great episode for Luke.
- 49:32Speaker 1: All right, so uh, let's let's read it. Susanne.
- 49:37Speaker 4: I have between two things.
- 49:41Speaker 1: Let's do favorite lines. Do you want to do favorite lines?
- 49:44Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 49:45Speaker 5: I wanted to just call out one little piece of
- 49:48Speaker 5: writing that was so subtle and you had to really
- 49:51Speaker 5: be paying attention to hear it.
- 49:54Speaker 4: But when Paris was.
- 49:57Speaker 5: Talking about her new you know, editorship, and she made
- 50:01Speaker 5: the comment, I had to I had to.
- 50:04Speaker 4: Pull it up.
- 50:04Speaker 5: She says, the last person that ran the shop was
- 50:06Speaker 5: too busy ironing his petticoat to put out a decent paper.
- 50:10Speaker 4: Well, she was talking about Doyle.
- 50:11Speaker 5: He was the last editor, right, well, and he agreed
- 50:15Speaker 5: with her and.
- 50:15Speaker 4: Didn't even realize that she was totally slammed. How about
- 50:18Speaker 4: the joke, like I was hilarious last year, I was
- 50:21Speaker 4: sleeping the editor and now I am. And then she's like,
- 50:25Speaker 4: could you come in a little bit quicker? Could you
- 50:29Speaker 4: come in a little bit? I mean, there's a thousand
- 50:36Speaker 4: good lines in this one, a lot of favorite lines.
- 50:38Speaker 5: I have multiple ones.
- 50:40Speaker 1: Okay, you get one. We'll do a couple of rounds.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Go ahead, Round one, Say what's your favorite line?
- 50:45Speaker 5: I think my first one was when Lorelai and Richard
- 50:48Speaker 5: were on the front porch and Richard's.
- 50:50Speaker 4: Talking and he's not getting the feedback that he.
- 50:53Speaker 5: Wants Laura I, and he says, aren't you listening to me?
- 50:55Speaker 1: And she says, uh no, Amy favorite line? Round one?
- 51:00Speaker 4: I said a bunch of mine, but.
- 51:05Speaker 1: Pick one for round one.
- 51:07Speaker 4: I think it's the reverend you've got. I hear you
- 51:11Speaker 4: have a boyfriend, crazy feelings. What your virtue is a gift?
- 51:16Speaker 4: Once you give it, it's gone no gift to give.
- 51:18Speaker 4: Oh dear, oh dear, indeed, that old thing.
- 51:23Speaker 1: Round one. Favorite line for me is just drink your drink.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Drink your drink, or drink the drink.
- 51:29Speaker 4: Drink is disgusting. I got a dog what that was
- 51:36Speaker 4: when they were really bonding again?
- 51:39Speaker 1: All right, so rating, what are you going to raise?
- 51:42Speaker 4: Please? I'm afraid someone's going to take mine.
- 51:45Speaker 1: Then what we're rating it around?
- 51:49Speaker 4: Takes my my sausages ten out of ten sausages.
- 51:53Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna throw a flag on you. That's a violation.
- 51:56Speaker 1: I called on Suzanne first, and you just tried to.
- 52:01Speaker 4: I didn't even sages.
- 52:04Speaker 1: Do you want to use the sausages? Were you intent amy?
- 52:09Speaker 1: Were you intending to my cereal?
- 52:11Speaker 4: I was not intending to use sage.
- 52:13Speaker 1: Okay, so you're in the but we're still going to
- 52:15Speaker 1: be sanctioned half of use ahead.
- 52:18Speaker 5: I was going to rank it nine point nine chocolate boxes.
- 52:22Speaker 1: Nice.
- 52:23Speaker 4: We need to have a party. Where everyone gets chocolate boxes.
- 52:27Speaker 1: Amy, what's your rating?
- 52:29Speaker 4: Ten out of ten sausages? I love this episode. I
- 52:31Speaker 4: don't really have much criticism.
- 52:32Speaker 1: What kind of sausages Louisiana sweet?
- 52:34Speaker 4: What I wish I could remember all those?
- 52:38Speaker 1: Okay, that's going to wrap it up for us over here.
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- 53:01Speaker 4: Please tell us your favorite sugary cereals.
- 53:04Speaker 1: Yeah, and that too, what she said, And favorite sausages,
- 53:08Speaker 1: and favorite footboxes and favorite drinks as literally why not? Right?
- 53:15Speaker 4: I don't know about drinks, but definitely favorite chocolate box,
- 53:18Speaker 4: favorite sausage, favorite cereal. We're going to start a poll.
- 53:21Speaker 1: This week, all right, and we'll see you next time
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