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Lesley Groff And The Transcript From Her Epstein Related Trip to Congress (Part 19) (7/14/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where he left off with Leslie Groff and her interview
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  with Congress. Question and then just some brief questions. I
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  know you were asked in the last hour, but some
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  brief questions about your role and book and travel transportation
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  in your role is mister Epstein's secretary. Did you often
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  book travel or transportation? Answer? I did after Sarah Kellen left.
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  Prior to that, it was more Sarah or other people
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  in the office. Question do you know what year that was? Answer?
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  I want to say twenty thirteen, twenty twelve, something like that,
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  when she was Brignac. Why did Sarah leave Miss Groff?
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  She got married. Question did you book flights as part
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  of your job? Answer yes, question for mister Epstein. Answer
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  there was a time when his plane wasn't working, so yes,
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  I would book flights for him commercial through MX Centurion.
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  Question did you book flights for any of his guests?
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  Answer yes, yes, question any of his friends? Answer as possible.
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  Question do you recall any specific instances where you did?
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  Answer not offhand? Question did you book flights for Miss Maxwell? Answer?
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  I don't believe so. I think she always flew on
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  his aeroplane. Question did you book flights for any other
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  assistant of mister Epstein? Answer traveling assistance. Yes. Question. Did
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  you plan travel for mister Epstein as well? Answer? What
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  I schedule his gets caught off? Question? Any itineraries, book
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  any activities, book appointments in a location he'd be traveling
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  to answer yes question. And now we've already discussed how
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  a majority of your tasks involved making calls, taking messages,
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  communicating back and forth with mister Epstein, scheduling appointments. Is
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  that all of fairer characterization? Answer yes. Question. I would
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  now like to introduce what will be marked as majority
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  Exhibit ten. This is FBI note from the Sworren statement
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  that you gave to the FBI on September twenty fourth,
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  twenty twenty one. It's batesmart EFTA zero one two four
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  six two one six. She's going to get that passed
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  out and we'll give you some time to review. In
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  the meantime, I'm just gonna ask you some general questions
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  about the interview, if that's okay. Answer sure. Question, So
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  you were interviewed by the FBI on September twenty fourth,
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  twenty twenty one, related to the investigation into mister Epstein.
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  Is that correct? Answer correct? Question Why did you provide
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  this testimony? Answer? I did so voluntarily. Question were you
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  interviewed by the FBI or any other law enforcement agency
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  on any other occasion? Answer no? Question did you provide
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  any evidence, documents, or other material to the FBI? Answer no?
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  Backner just so, Yeah, it's not a sworn statement, but
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  it's her statement, Tolan. It's notes from her statement, but
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  not sworn Backner. Yeah, it's just not sworn, miss Tolan. Okay,
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  thank you. Question and then we'll give you a second
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  to review. Answer. Okay, you want me to read the
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  whole entire thing. Question You don't have to read it,
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  if you remember, I have some specific questions that I
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  can point you to answer, questions that you can guide me.
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  Question Yeah, if you would like me to begin answer
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  uh huh. Question. So on page two, you state that
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  mister Epstein would give you a call list of who
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  you were supposed to or of who he wanted to
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  see and have appointments with. I think we've already discussed
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  that in length. But you would receive that daily. Is
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  that correct? And then make appointments accordingly. Answer yes. Question.
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  On page two, you mentioned that you were responsible for
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  making all phone calls, including calling the chef and the driver.
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  Is that accurate? Answer yes, question What would you coordinate
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  with each of them about? Answer the driver for when
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  mister Epstein wanted to be picked up and where he
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  was supposed to be picked up. Give the driver an
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  address for when he wanted to leave the house and
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  be sure to be outside and ready to go that
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  type of thing. The chef would be if he wanted
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  his chef to bring lunch over to the office, or
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  it could be that he, you know, whatever he wanted
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  for breakfast, lunch, or dinner, and just coordinate that with
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  the chef to make sure that he's ready at the
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  right time with whatever it is mister Epstein wanted to eat.
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  Question and were those conversations happening daily? Answer? Oh, yes question.
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  And on page three you mentioned that you would coordinate
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  with the pilots of mister Epstein's plane. Is that correct?
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  Answer yes, question. What would you coordinate with the pilots about?
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  Answer the time that he wanted to leave, the day
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  you wanted to leave. Usually that would be that would
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  be it. Question would you inform the pilots about guess
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  mister Epstein was bringing on his plane? Answer yes, that
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  could be possible to about who was going to be
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  traveling on the flight? Question and were those frequent communications
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  as well with the pilots answer, I mean yes, it
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  would be whenever he was going to be traveling. Question
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  and then on page three you also mentioned you'd coordinate
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  or you would schedule business meetings architects and designers. Is
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  that also correct? Answer? Yes? Question what would you coordinate
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  with each of them? About? Answer? Well, to business meetings,
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  it was just all his associates that I would coordinate
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  meetings with, be at his office or at his home.
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  Architects are recall buying tickets for them to fly in.
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  They would provide architectural plans. Mister Epstein never seemed to
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  be satisfied with any of the architects and the designers.
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  They would come and visit them. I would make appointments
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  with them, possibly buy the marror travel as well, and
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  just coordinate phone calls with all these people as well.
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  Question and just again, so the record's clear, we've talked
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  about your role in scheduling business meetings a lot of
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  different times today, is your testimony that you did not
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  have any knowledge about the purpose of what went on
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  in each of those meetings? Answer that is correct. Question
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  you just scheduled. Answer merely skeed world correct Brignac. In
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  your opening statement, I believe you said something to the
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  effect of you were thrust into the lives of the
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  rich and famous. But your testimony is sounded like you
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  were kept at an arm's length and that this was
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  very humdrum work, not as exciting as you said it was.
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  Can you help clarify my confusion, Miss Groff. Sure, it
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  was exciting just to know that you're talking to these
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  people's offices. I was not friends, but it's more exciting
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  than just speaking to, you know, the neighbor or the
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  regular businessmen. They were all very important people, you know.
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  It was exciting. Even though I had no real relationship
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  with these people, it was still it was better than
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  just working at your average accounting office and speaking to,
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  you know, a bunch of accountants. Nothing wrong with accountants.
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  I just mean these were movie producers, you know, record producers, businessmen,
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  Wall Street businessmen, government people. You know. It was not
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  normal Poland question and you mentioned on page eight that
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  mister Epstein would tell you to find a trader on
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  a few occasions. Is that correct answer? I'm sorry? Page
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  a answer? Yeah, question or answer? Okay, where are you? Question?
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  It should be near the top of the page. You
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  mentioned Epstein asking you to find a trader. Answer, Oh,
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  I think this is about a certain incident. Just bear
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  with me one second. Yeah, I recall one time mister
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  Epstein wanted to make a trade and it was something
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  if you know about trading things, stocks move and every
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  second matters, and I believe that I recall him calling
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  and telling me to get this person on the phone.
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  In my head, I was like, why is he not
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  just calling the person if it's so important that it
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  gets done. You know, right away the stock's going to move,
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  and I felt I remember I had to find the
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  phone number for the trader, and you know, that was it. It
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  was just one of those incidents. Yeah, that was nerve
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  wracking for me. Question just a one time occurrence. Answer.
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  I definitely remember that one occurrence. I'm not saying I
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  didn't connect them to a trader. Another time. Question and
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  then a few quick questions. You mentioned it briefly about
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  how exciting. The work was did you enjoy working as
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  an assistant or secretary apologies for mister Epstein. Answer? I
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  did at the time, Miss Brignat, Can you elaborate growth.
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  It was exciting, it was challenging, It was super super busy.
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  It was not like a regular a regular job as
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  an assistant. It was just haear on fire, lots of commotion.
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  People own islands and airplanes and homes and other parts
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  of the world. It was exciting, just not like a
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  regular job. Question and how did mister Epstein treat you
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  or how did he treat you as a boss? Answer?
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  As my boss, he was professional. He did not get
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  close to me. If you asked him, I bet he
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  would say that he didn't even know my husband's name
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  or my son's name. It was not that kind of relationship.
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  He would demand no mistakes. But I liked the challenge.
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  I did get in trouble at times. But I also
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  felt like I was good at coordinating and managing his
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  phones and calling people and organizing his day, and I
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  felt value from that. But we were not friends. He
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  did not socialize. I did not see him outside of work,
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  and it was all on purpose. Question and you mentioned
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  it just then and in your opening statement as well,
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  an instance where a mistake was made and he put
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  you on probation. I believe you turned it. Can you
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  explain what that was? Answer? So, yeah, they had told
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  me that I should not socialize with anybody that he
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  spoke to. They're friends for not my friends. I didn't
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  get invited to a party and I went with my
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  husband and he found out the next day. And I
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  definitely was more than just a reprimand it was very scary.
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  He was very powerful. He had this aura around them.
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  You sat up straight whenever he would talk or walk
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  into the office. Miss Brignac, What did it mean if
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  you were put on probation? Growth on probation? I think
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  it was for a month, and you know, if I
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  made any other errors, I would get fired Toland. Question
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  were you not working for the month that you were
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  put on probation? Answer? No, I was there. I was working, yeah,
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  and being very careful. Question what did probation mean then? Answer?
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  I think he was just watching for if I made errors,
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  I would get fired. Question and during your time working
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  for mister Epstein, was Miss Maxwell? Was she ever in
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  a supervisory role to you? Did you ever work under her?
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  Answer I did not work under her. Question what did
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  you understand her role to be? Answer? I thought she
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  was the office manager. Question and how did she act
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  towards you and the other staff? Answer? She was cordial,
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  she was professional. We really didn't interract much. When she
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  would come into the office, she would sweep through, sit
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  at her desk. She had an assistant. I didn't report
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  to her, Miss Brignac. Question who answered to Miss Maxwell? Question? Oh,
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  who is miss Maxwell's assistant? Answer? Oh, sorry, it changed
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  over time. It was first redacted, and then it was
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  I'm sorry redacted. No was it redacted? I'm sorry, I'm
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  drawing a blank after redacted? Yes, redacted moved back to
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  be her assistant, and we hired a new receptionist. Question
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  how long did you work with redacted? Answer? She was
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  let go when he went to jail. So into the
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  thousand and nine question why answer, we had to downsize
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  the office. Others were also let go. Question who else?
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  Answer redacted? Who was the attorney's assistant at the time?
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  I believe it was redacted who was a receptionist? And
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  that might have been That might have been it. Question
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  did you hear why they were let gos specifically. Answer,
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  it was just that they were downsizing the office and
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  it wasn't going to be that busy. Question in your
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  role as secretary for mister Epstein, did you ever work
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  alongside Richard Kahn? Answer no. Question. Did you ever conduct
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  work or assist Richard Kahn with his accounting operations? Answer
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  no question. Did you ever work alongside Darren Endyke Answer
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  I did a short period of time when he was
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  in jail. Yes. Question What was your position working for him?
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  Answer assistant? Question and what were you helping him with? Answer?
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  Filing calls, making his calls, connecting him to people who
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  was not nearly as exciting. Question and what time period
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  was that? Answer that was about two thousand and nine.
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  It was when he went to jail, and then after
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  he was released. I was still working a little bit
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  for mister Endyke, but then he did get an assistant himself.
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  Question and you mentioned traveling assistance of mister Epstein throughout
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  the course of today's interview. Do you know who those
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  traveling assistants were? Answer? Yes, Do you want me to
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  tell you their names? Question? If you know them, please
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  answer sure. When I first started it was redacted and
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  then it was Sarah and she stayed for a long time.
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  Then there was redacted, redacted or redacted or redacted and redacted.
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  Those are the ones that come to my mind. Question, okay,
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  thank you. And out of all those employees, was there
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  any office gossip about him going to jail or any
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  speculation about his affinity for young women or girls? Ms Groff. No,
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  all right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here, and
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  in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
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  pick up where we left off. All the information that
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